00:01:39 <|amethyst> johnstein: the rule it uses is: if it has already seen that rcfile_path, use | as a separator. Otherwise use
00:02:00 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-36-gfa90154 (34) 00:02:06 <|amethyst> johnstein: you can override this with separator = "
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01:58:35 oh i didnt look at the commit message 01:58:58 -!- notlcuie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:02:16 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:02:58 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:02 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:10:14 Experimental (nostalgia) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-b1-60-g21ba774 02:15:51 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:16:24 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:56 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-36-gfa90154 (34) 02:27:59 -!- caleba has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:28:36 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:29:33 -!- lorenz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:31:23 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:37:51 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:39:29 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 02:40:36 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:43:49 -!- caleba has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:44:03 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 02:45:12 -!- DrKe2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:50:53 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 02:54:48 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:02:15 -!- Morg0th has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:14:08 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:14:34 -!- vible_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:14:50 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 03:18:20 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 03:18:36 -!- StahlGamma has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:20:50 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:21:17 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:21:45 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:22:58 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:22:58 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:30:55 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:32:07 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:32:34 -!- Rewans has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:35:59 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:36:17 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:36:27 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:54:24 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:56:42 -!- minqmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:56:42 -!- minmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:59:59 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:02:30 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:02:55 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 04:04:08 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:07:21 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:09:06 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:10:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14:12 -!- mezmerelda has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:18:31 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:22:04 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:27:24 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:32:20 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:32:38 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:33:13 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:38:56 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:43:38 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:58:10 Is hellfire completely Hellfire (ignore AC) or just the explosion? 04:58:36 {crossbow/fixedArt} 05:01:16 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:01:21 -!- RZX has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:03:31 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:20:29 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 05:21:01 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:28:45 -!- orc_wizard has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:36:56 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 05:40:21 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:42:04 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:43:26 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:45:20 . 05:45:45 . 05:50:25 -!- Lasty2 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:09 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:51:58 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:56:44 -!- PDXTopHat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:02:48 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:03:09 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 06:07:03 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Client Quit] 06:07:46 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Client Quit] 06:08:36 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:09:09 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:15:09 -!- Nivim has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:17:29 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:19:30 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:21:06 -!- vible has joined ##crawl-dev 06:22:05 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:30:14 dpeg 06:32:43 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:48:37 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:55:38 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:57:39 Bcadren!! 07:00:06 oh come on 07:00:13 are whips the april's fool weapon? 07:01:29 TZer0: Well, I use my whip throughout the year. 07:01:34 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 07:02:23 I don't think the whip caused comments about punishment and annihilation before.. 07:03:16 it's not just whips... 07:03:26 it is everything? 07:03:29 yep 07:03:33 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:03:38 but seriously, wrong time zone 07:03:44 there's no more AF here 07:03:48 :P 07:04:15 language = en 07:05:18 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:08:47 dpeg thinking about reviving sea god...with Water Elemental form as a draw (all the resistances of non-livingness + EP mechanic and drown branded UC). 07:10:30 Bcadren: was that the form-changing god of a few months ago? 07:11:27 000yea. started as player access to flooding and primal wave grew into water unique transmutations. 07:11:48 the 0's were pressed by my guitar while I was playing...didn't know they were there. 07:12:20 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:13:07 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:13:37 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:14:14 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:20:11 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:22:38 -!- jday_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:23:06 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:25:22 -!- _D_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:27:21 -!- johlstei__ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:29:42 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:08 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:32:13 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:39:02 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:41:21 -!- caleba has quit [Client Quit] 07:48:45 -!- Nunya_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:49:46 -!- Nunya has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:49:55 -!- Nunya_ is now known as Nunya 07:50:09 Why from a practical/design perspective are there so many humans? ...I mean Vault Wardens, Hell Knights, normal Humans, Killer Klowns...Necromancers, Wizards...there's a greater variety of creatures that drop Human corpses that any other type. 07:50:44 !tell cedor oui je sais, j'essaie d'y faire attention quand je synchronise, et j'en corrige pas mal 07:50:45 galehar: OK, I'll let cedor know. 07:52:55 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:55:46 03Translators02 {galehar} 07* 0.15-a0-37-gdddaf67: [Transifex] Sync. 10(6 minutes ago, 66 files, 2040+ 9637-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dddaf6750370 07:55:48 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:55:48 galehar: tres bien! 07:56:05 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:02:59 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:03:23 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 08:04:28 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:05:15 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:05:58 03Translators02 {galehar} 07[stone_soup-0.14] * 0.14-b1-16-g421572d: [Transifex] Sync. 10(17 minutes ago, 62 files, 2014+ 9637-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=421572d5b434 08:07:11 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:07:42 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:14:26 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:12 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 08:15:15 -!- MaxFrosty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:16:19 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 08:20:58 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:23:55 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:27:16 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:29:54 -!- tgcid has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:38:38 lul 08:44:31 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:37 -!- DrKe has quit [] 08:45:35 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:49:21 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:51:47 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:52:53 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:55:06 -!- Mugar has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:25 mornin' everyone 08:55:40 is this a good place to report plagiarism? i found a paid app that's ripping off dcss assets directly 08:56:07 Is this acceptable after simplification? [seriously] https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11495&p=160575#p160575 08:56:48 I've seen several iphone apps in the appstore that use crawl assets too. I don't know what the policy is Mugar 08:58:10 It's free to use if not for profit... 08:58:16 If these are free apps; it's cool. 08:58:17 I've never seen anyone care over here. 08:58:33 Just stating the official. 08:59:01 thanks - def not a free app 08:59:25 if noone's worried about it i won't sweat it - just wanted to bring it up in case, still relatively new to all this 08:59:50 Mugar: do you have a link to the app? 09:00:47 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dungeon-crawler/id716749155?mt=12 09:01:52 people want $2 for that <3 09:01:55 does "ripping off dcss assets" mean tiles specifically? 09:02:02 indeed 09:02:05 yea. tiles 09:02:06 Mugar: thanks for bringing this up, but it's really no concern 09:02:51 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:03:01 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:03:28 I don't remember what licensing is like for our tiles 09:03:50 most of them are public domain, I thought 09:05:11 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:05:38 ._. 09:08:25 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:22 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11495 09:12:35 Bcadren: so pushing, eh? :) I don't really have much to say on the proposal. I think it's too complicated and wants too many things at once. I would love to have another slow species, but making it play different from Nagas may not be easy. 09:13:19 Nagas are slow movement only, not slow action. *shrug* 09:14:21 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:16:39 which makes it harder for you 09:21:31 agh no don't add a slow action race 09:21:36 slow action races are fucking terrible 09:21:41 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:21:45 go play a game that has one and see how annoying it is 09:24:48 -!- trystero has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:26:03 -!- Mugar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:31:10 -!- Zicher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:31:55 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:33:23 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:42 Bcadren: the tree race sounds interesting. not sure about rrot for a tree though 09:35:48 minor quibble 09:36:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:36:56 the "gotta put down roots" to regen sounds interesting but I think you'll have to do a lot of tweaking to ensure its not a trivial choice in practice 09:36:59 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:38:25 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:45:38 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:47:40 statue tree form :^) 09:49:23 I would make resistances vary with how long its been since you did it; but that's stepping on Vampires a bit too much. (IRL wet wood isn't flammable, but is more easily hurt by cold [why trees dry out for the winter]; but dry wood is really combustible [which usually isn't a problem in the winter]) 09:50:00 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:53:49 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:01 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:57:26 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:01:53 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:03:12 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:03:37 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:52 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:10:38 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:11:26 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-38-g132c9f3: Remove mandatory fun. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=132c9f3235cc 10:13:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:13:56 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:24:49 -!- Keanan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:36 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:28:37 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:13 i like the have to put down roots thing, AND having resistances vary, but it's got so many differences from normal play that'd have to be playtested to find all the issues 10:31:25 as someone else said, it'd be a balance nightmare 10:32:08 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:32:11 Nunya: balance for a species is not so crucial 10:32:23 I don't think this is the main issue with the proposal. 10:33:16 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:33:48 i'd certainly play it. the odder races are the ones i enjoy most lately. It's fun to have some interesting advantages offset by a serious gamechanging weakness 10:39:24 the tree proposal beats lava orcs in complexity, I believe, and that's not a good thing 10:39:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:42:59 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:46:12 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:48:10 merge them 10:48:12 burning bush race 10:49:58 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:52:27 merge all races 10:52:43 elf-dwarf-orc-gnome megarace 10:53:56 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:56:05 and then rename it human 10:58:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:00:58 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:01:38 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:03:27 -!- sstrickl has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 11:04:21 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:05:30 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-b1-16-g421572d 11:09:08 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:24:23 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:25:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:25:43 s??goodmantis[ludge 11:25:44 goodmantis[5/7]: 0007156: Merge kobolds and halflings to Sludge Dwarves 11:26:52 goodmantis is the best entry in learndb 11:27:06 i liked badmantis more 11:27:46 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:07 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:36:17 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:17 -!- yxhuvvd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:38:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:41:45 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:57 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:43:24 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 11:44:48 dpeg: Chei is the best god. <3 <3 <3 11:45:38 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:47:37 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:48:09 when will ice form be turned into RIP AND TEAR form 11:48:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:48:22 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:29 RIP AND TEAR form aka Blade Hands? 11:48:37 TIP THE REAR 11:48:58 Grunt: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/WendigoSolo2x.png RIP AND TEAR 11:51:11 -!- N78291 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:51:26 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:15 Bloax: Hi Hexen enemy! 11:52:24 More seriously, when do we remove MD 11:52:25 Lightli knows what's up. 11:53:08 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:57:43 -!- Zicher has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:00:48 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:40 I wonder how long it'd take someone to notice if selecting 'MD' actually gave them an HO 12:02:32 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-b1-16-g421572d 12:06:48 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:07:41 -!- Ketsa has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 12:08:34 -!- Blazinghand|Work is now known as Blazinghand 12:12:08 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:15 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:16:26 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:50 PleasingFungus: FR: that. 12:17:00 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-38-g132c9f3 (34) 12:17:11 swap MD and HD 12:17:35 wheals: Swapping HO and MD sounds more hilarious 12:17:58 make choosing any one of them start a random one of the three 12:18:07 Webtiles server restarted. 12:18:27 <|amethyst> CSZO is back to normal now 12:18:42 <|amethyst> nostalgia is available as an experimental branch 12:20:52 uh 12:20:52 I pressed P and apparently it's still nostalgia 12:20:52 disconnect and ssh back in 12:20:52 <|amethyst> Lightli: were you already logged in? 12:20:52 is what i had to do 12:20:57 yes 12:21:05 <|amethyst> what wheals said 12:21:20 <|amethyst> dgamelaunch reads the config on startup 12:21:29 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:39 |amethyst: I guess we can keep nostalgia up indefinitely 12:21:54 "I have to say, Nostalgia branch is doing a good job at killing nostalgia for the old days. Seven floors of Elf is shit, Hive is boring, Mountain Dwarves are boring (seriously maybe those weird Dwarf people will finally shut up about them). It's a good reminder of just how much the game has improved over time." 12:22:13 Mission accomplished? 12:22:39 I should push the summon following on stairs fix to nostalgia 12:22:45 if I can figure out how to do that easilly 12:22:58 gammafunk: Sneak removing MD in there too and see if anyone notices 12:23:22 wow 12:23:29 wow what 12:23:31 apparently there was once a spells4.cc 12:23:44 one file for each spell, yeah 12:23:49 -!- mk83 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:24:39 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:28:51 -!- Ququman_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:44 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! 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Thanks. Should have checked :) 13:33:59 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:34:20 -!- ldf2866 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:09 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:35 "Unable to get stack trace on this platform." 13:35:42 Yeah, that bug'll be *super* fun to track down 13:36:32 (Not slamming you, abruptdecay, just don't necessarily expect this one to be resolved overnight) 13:36:36 ERROR in 'dungeon.cc' at line 3261: Couldn't pick a layout. 13:36:41 trying to enter vault:7 13:36:45 any ideas what's causing this? 13:36:53 you need to recompile 13:36:59 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:01 aww 13:37:09 extending vaults to 8 floors was not bugfree 13:37:25 -!- abruptdecay has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:37:44 only solution: discontinue Windows support 13:38:18 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:23 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:53 -!- bhaak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:39:59 I'm eagerly expecting this to break my save after spending too damn long in abyss:3 with no luck 13:40:52 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:45:21 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:21 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 13:45:21 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:06 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46:24 it worked, how very disappointing 13:46:31 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:38 oh well, thanks 13:49:41 -!- BanquosGhost has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:50:45 so when do MD get removed from nostalgia 13:51:08 * wheals removes Lightli. 13:51:22 * Lightli is removed 13:52:42 * dpeg recommends Lightli to play Crawl Light. 13:52:56 ??crawl_light 13:52:57 crawl light[1/3]: A fork of Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. http://crawl.aerdan.org/ | #CrawlLight | telnet://dashify.me:23 13:53:00 ??crawl_light [2] 13:53:01 crawl light[2/3]: features: no food, no identification, no curses, squarelos, hard mode, monsters (including allies) follow you across levels like brogue, bee castle 13:53:02 ??crawl_light [3] 13:53:03 crawl light[3/3]: is crawl light like crystal light 13:53:15 huhwhat 13:53:33 Er, that server is defunct 13:53:41 the website seems to be too 13:53:58 -!- Reign_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:54:07 The site was never more than a placeholder anyway 13:54:18 !learn del crawl_light[1] 13:54:18 Deleted crawl light[1/3]: A fork of Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. http://crawl.aerdan.org/ | #CrawlLight | telnet://dashify.me:23 13:55:26 !learn add crawl_light[1] A fork of Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. https://github.com/dtsund/crawl-light for source, http://inari.aerdan.org/~dtsund/cl_downloads/ for builds. | IRC channel at #CrawlLight. 13:55:26 crawl light[1/3]: A fork of Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. https://github.com/dtsund/crawl-light for source, http://inari.aerdan.org/~dtsund/cl_downloads/ for builds. | IRC channel at #CrawlLight. 13:58:02 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:59:45 (features list is also badly outdated, but I don't feel like sticking a changelog into a learndb entry) 14:02:39 -!- Lasty2 has left ##crawl-dev 14:09:55 -!- Nethris has quit [Client Quit] 14:11:15 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:12:08 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:13:26 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:15:36 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:19:52 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:26:09 -!- johlstei__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:26:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 14:26:38 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:35:08 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:23 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:40:37 Addition to grunt fake language by Tedronai 14:42:57 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:43:05 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:22 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:53:43 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/Duvessa.png wait a second 14:54:23 -!- trystero_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:30 the no-face is so creepy 14:54:34 are all unique tiles that way? 14:54:38 yes 14:55:05 or well eyes are present here and there 14:55:21 yeah, eyes would maybe help I guess 14:55:50 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:57:12 check now 14:58:11 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:59:10 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:48 oh ffs 15:02:58 whoops, wrong channel 15:03:03 sorry folks 15:05:13 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:08:54 -!- scummos| has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:12 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:53 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:17:43 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:24:52 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:10 Elf 3 vault generated seperated from the rest of the level by Lison 15:26:36 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:28:01 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:29:53 wait i forgot something critical 15:29:55 how silly of me 15:36:05 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:36:20 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:42:03 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:42:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:46:07 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-39-g424acf8: Allow ghouls to use easy_eat. 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=424acf8c8f15 15:48:05 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:48:34 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/Duvessa.png how can you have an elf without the big ears 15:49:24 that is a fair question 15:50:01 do you have a new Dowan as well? 15:50:09 a mismatched dowan/duvessa pair would be terrible. 15:52:20 Not yet. 15:52:33 but of course it'd be silly to not have them both prettied 15:52:43 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:52:54 -!- 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ears 17:05:11 |amethyst: sexy elves follow no rules 17:06:40 (Besides, I'm no fan of following the rltiles designs.) 17:08:33 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:11:50 <|amethyst> I do think the diagonal ears in your tile are more distinguishable from orc ears 17:12:36 <|amethyst> they look a little unnatural, but, hey, elves 17:13:32 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:33 |amethyst: If anything, diagonal ears seem more like cliche elf ears. 17:14:19 probably because most draw them as prolonged (diminishing) human ears 17:14:26 and as we all know, human ears aren't exactly horizontal 17:17:00 -!- jeffro has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 17:17:18 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:17:48 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 17:22:23 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-39-g424acf8 (34) 17:22:23 -!- Foamed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25:26 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:29:33 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##crawl-dev 20:26:47 goodcommit 20:27:12 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:27:43 -!- Reign_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:30:21 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:31:16 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:33:16 -!- elliptic has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:20 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 20:33:40 -!- hyperbolic is now known as elliptic 20:35:40 elliptic: is the feature that shows webtiles spectators the console glyphs new? 20:39:28 -!- Ketsa has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 20:40:39 -!- simmarine_ is now known as simmarine 20:42:58 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:44:33 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:45:03 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 20:47:12 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:52 does there exist a matrix summary of all classes and abilities/features? 20:54:22 like each row is a class (or race) and each column are the various features or gimmicks 20:54:42 seems like something that may have been created already 20:58:05 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58:20 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 20:58:22 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:04:01 there wouldn't be much overlap - a list would be simpler... 21:09:15 archaeo: webtiles spectators have had the option to view games in glyph mode for quite a while. What changed recently is that now it is an rcfile setting rather than a toggle 21:09:32 archaeo: i.e. as a spectator it uses your rcfile to determine view mode (if you are logged in) 21:09:54 elliptic: oh, I see! so if I edit my .rc file to show tiles and not glyphs and spectate you, I'll see tiles? 21:09:59 archaeo: if you aren't logged in, it uses the player's rcfile, which is why you are seeing glyphs for me 21:10:03 yeah 21:10:12 ??options 21:10:12 rcfile[1/4]: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt;hb=HEAD 21:10:13 ok, cool. Thanks! 21:10:38 -!- HDA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:11:15 archaeo: tile_display_mode = tiles is the setting, though this should be the default I think... if you are logged in and still getting glyphs spectating me, then that is due to a bug with how the nostalgia branch is set up 21:11:42 then that's what's happening. 21:12:04 I've spectated you and crate and both times I've gotten glyphs logged in, and I haven't even touched the .rc options 21:13:02 yeah, I guess |amethyst didn't get around to making that part of the setup work for nostalgia (I don't know how hard it is) 21:13:15 Webtiles server restarted. 21:13:15 <|amethyst> Thanks for the reminder 21:13:20 <|amethyst> it's one line :) 21:13:24 <|amethyst> I also forgot it for 0.14 21:13:24 :) 21:13:24 lison (L25 SpEn) (Vaults:1) 21:13:37 <|amethyst> hrm 21:13:42 <|amethyst> !lm lison crash -log 21:13:42 1. lison, XL23 HOFi, T:52953 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/lison/crash-lison-20130626-224653.txt 21:13:49 <|amethyst> !lm lison crash -log 21:13:49 2. lison, XL25 SpEn, T:109052 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/lison/crash-lison-20140403-021311.txt 21:14:15 <|amethyst> weird 21:14:30 <|amethyst> sigpipe when writing "Game saved, see you later!" 21:14:51 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:15:48 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:17:03 -!- the_glow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:29 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 21:27:17 -!- johlstei__ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:17 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:35:19 -!- Hanyuu_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:36:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:38:07 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:41:24 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-41-g38725a9: Remove spriggan assassins. 10(44 minutes ago, 10 files, 4+ 67-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=38725a92c9fd 21:44:33 wheals: s/Remove/Assassinate/? 21:45:02 you know me, i'd never say anything frivolous like that 21:47:18 -!- jday_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:47:35 I wonder if anyone will complain about the loss of spriggass 21:47:43 I am very slightly sad because I rewrote their description 21:47:48 but the new description still wasn't any good so w/e 21:48:21 <|amethyst> "right under your fifth rib" should have been conditionalised on player species anyway :) 21:49:47 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:49:52 o 21:49:53 it's true 21:50:05 <|amethyst> "right in your outer gill lamellae" 21:50:09 yess 21:50:20 right under your fifth tentacle 21:50:41 for nagas, right under your fifty-fifth vertebra 21:52:38 clearly spriggan assassin needs to be re-added so these valuable suggestions can be implemented 21:52:44 for Dj, "somewhere in your cloudish area" 21:53:00 <|amethyst> FR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PuckCartoon-TeddyRoosevelt-05-23-1906.jpg 21:53:01 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:53:06 treeform messages 21:53:19 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:53:23 pleasingfungus: since you're doing so many description rewrites, maybe it's time for Crawl to dispense with the second person in descriptions? 21:53:30 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: zot] 21:53:31 are you requesting the baby or the serpents? 21:53:36 <|amethyst> both 21:53:47 as a race or an enemy 21:53:51 or job i guess 21:53:56 archaeo: I've been killing second-person descriptions when I spot them. I haven't done vault monsters or uniques, though 21:54:08 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:54:34 PleasingFungus: I never got around to my own big rewrite, so I'm cheering yours on. 21:54:37 <|amethyst> wheals: baby teddy roosevelt as a unique 21:54:38 :) 21:55:21 you have to kill him in the past or the future will contain forest 21:55:32 ahaha the meatlord's description 21:55:35 since he wants to travel back in time and make the branch protected 21:55:58 wheals: feature request: time traveling species 21:56:04 thanks in advance 21:56:17 -!- alefury has quit [] 21:56:18 <|amethyst> wheals: he wants to protect Lair so he can shoot the animals there himself 21:56:37 fr: elephant guns 21:56:39 that shoot elephants 21:57:07 <|amethyst> The elephant flexes! Look at those powerful elephant guns! 21:57:14 if you're cruel you shoot the elephants at other elephants 21:58:19 good 21:59:45 wind drake (16l) | Spd: 12 | HD: 8 | HP: 44-75 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 12 | fly, DMsl, !sil | Res: 06magic(32), 12wind | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 287 | Sp: trample breath; airstrike (0-26), melee | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 21:59:45 <|amethyst> %??wind drake 21:59:54 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:00:13 elephant drake (03l) | Spd: 12 | HD: 8 | HP: 44-75 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 12 | fly, DMsl, !sil | Res: 06magic(32), 12wind | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 287 | Sp: trample breath; airstrike (0-26), melee | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 22:00:13 <|amethyst> %??wind drake col:green name:elephant_drake n_rpl n_spe 22:00:43 crawl could do with more drakes 22:01:11 <|amethyst> I don't remember if glyph reform is separating them from the lesser lizards 22:01:21 i think it's putting them on k 22:02:08 Sir Francis (16l) | Spd: 12 | HD: 8 | HP: 44-75 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 12 | fly, DMsl, !sil | Res: 06magic(32), 12wind | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 287 | Sp: trample breath; airstrike (0-26), melee | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 22:02:08 <|amethyst> %??wind drake name:Sir_Francis n_rpl 22:02:17 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:02:19 new species: Artefact Creature. as you level up you gain an offhand weapon attack (after you grow a random weapon) and a bunch of random Artefact egos. half serious 22:03:13 I think I need to work on my one sentence summary 22:03:15 <|amethyst> johnstein: But you're vulnerable to both disenchant and swords to plowshares 22:03:25 oh man 22:03:40 yea, I was wondering why that name sounded too familiar 22:03:43 oops 22:03:46 no, the latter only applies to artifacts 22:03:51 australian ones are safe 22:03:55 (haven't played mtg for several years) 22:03:58 Tiamat (16d) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 380 | AC/EV: 39/20 | Dam: 60, 45 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, cold-blooded, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(58), 02cold, 03poison | Vul: 11silver | XP: 9228 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) / b.quicksilver (3d20) / cold breath (3d28) / fire breath (3d28) / poisonous cloud (3d13) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 22:03:58 %??tiamat 22:04:28 <|amethyst> I assume you mean a bunch of random artefact props 22:04:31 <|amethyst> rather than egos 22:04:41 storm dragon (12D) | Spd: 12 | HD: 14 | HP: 87-124 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Dam: 25, 15, 1507(trample) | fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(93), 02cold, 11elec+++, 12drown | XP: 2315 | Sp: b.lightning (3d19) | Sz: Huge | Int: animal. 22:04:41 %??storm dragon 22:04:46 is tiamat supposed to be a dragon or a draconian? 22:04:50 <|amethyst> but it sounds rather like demonspawn in that respect 22:04:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: a draconian in Crawl 22:04:55 she's a draconian 22:05:04 Tiamat A powerful dragon with mighty wings. 22:05:14 <|amethyst> wha 22:05:15 I will include this in my forthcoming patch 22:05:17 <|amethyst> wow 22:05:17 huh 22:05:23 I think it was an oversight 22:05:27 given that she used to wear armour 22:05:34 all draconians used to 22:05:41 yes, but dragons don't 22:05:49 (the description is wrong) 22:05:50 or cloaks! 22:05:54 :) 22:05:58 but yes, she's a draconian 22:06:00 fr: cloak dragon 22:06:15 appears only in golubria's wizlab, with cloak breath 22:06:21 <|amethyst> hmm 22:06:28 <|amethyst> %git c500c6b3 22:06:30 07haranp02 * 0.2-a0-546-gc500c6b: Added Tiamat, a unique colourshifting draconian with a large escort. Yes, I know she's a dragon in the source mythos. 10(7 years ago, 7 files, 65+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c500c6b35828 22:06:30 very sneaky, as dragons go. 22:06:31 after all 22:06:33 it has powerful cloaking abilities 22:06:56 <|amethyst> said "draconian" in the original commit 22:07:05 but someone fixed ('fixed') it 22:07:07 huh 22:07:15 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:07:33 Tiamat and Xtahua both have extremely poor descriptions 22:07:56 i made a commit to improve xtahua's desc but never pushed it 22:07:59 oh 22:08:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:08:04 what was your change? 22:08:04 the last attempt to improve xtahua's description was not a success 22:08:16 <|amethyst> %git 05345016 22:08:17 07peterb1202 * 0.3-a0-160-g0534501: First cut at db/flat text file based descriptions. 10(7 years ago, 13 files, 1751+ 706-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=05345016f1c6 22:08:22 currently it's An ancient and mighty dragon. 22:08:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:34 i changed it to 22:08:39 AN ANCIENT AND MIGHT DRAGON. 22:08:42 *MIGHTY 22:09:07 that is a good change 22:09:36 I could swear I remembered a longer description... maybe that was the one in monspeak? 22:09:36 <|amethyst> Does Urug really need "He smells terrible." ? 22:09:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:09:48 hm. nope 22:09:56 |amethyst: it's important !!!!! 22:10:06 only if you're not a mummy, though 22:10:07 it immerses the player in the rich reality of dungeon crawl 22:10:09 engaging all senses !!! 22:10:17 see also wiglaf 22:10:24 fr: smellocrawl 22:10:47 <|amethyst> Hubert Cumberdale, you taste like soot and poo! 22:11:17 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:11:27 @The_monster@ says, "This cannae be beer, 'tis yak urine! I want ma dwarven ale!" 22:11:28 -!- trystero_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:12:13 PleasingFungus: the longer description was the thing i was referring to yes 22:12:23 what was it? 22:12:47 %git 4914782177f73675 22:12:47 07MarvinPA02 * 0.12-a0-658-g4914782: Revert some unique descriptions, fix various pronouns 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 1 file, 12+ 37-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4914782177f7 22:12:57 i'm pretty sure this came up like, last week :P 22:13:04 perhaps: "I AM XTAHUA, THE DOOR TO THE DRAGON" 22:13:10 maybe needs some tweaking 22:13:34 oh 22:13:35 <|amethyst> If we're going to give Wiglaf a Scottish accent, can we give orcs an American accent? 22:13:36 I remember that now 22:13:53 would humans have australian accents? 22:13:53 not as good as sonja's throbbing nostrils 22:14:03 |amethyst: Sure, if we can give kobolds english accents 22:14:39 can we make deep elves german then? 22:14:45 I tend to think of orcs as British football hooligans <_< 22:14:47 seems legit to me 22:14:56 I blame warhammer 22:15:07 blood bowl! 22:15:09 heh 22:15:19 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:15:23 I really do wonder who turned tiamat into a dragon 22:15:23 <|amethyst> 001 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION. 22:15:24 <|amethyst> 002 PROGRAM-ID. 'KOBOLD'. 22:15:39 it was over 7 years ago 22:15:40 gary gygax? 22:15:51 PleasingFungus: it was in the peterb12 commit above, it was a typo i assume 22:16:33 oh huh, guess not 22:16:39 yeah she was a dragon before that 22:16:43 but a draconian when she was added 22:17:07 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:17:13 how long has the Tiamat tile been so draconian, then? 22:17:37 <|amethyst> Tiamat has always been a draconian AFAICT 22:17:46 <|amethyst> the description has been wrong for a long time, though 22:18:19 7 years 22:18:55 I wonder how many people have actually seen tiamat. there's a !lm query for that... 22:19:10 i never have 22:19:31 <|amethyst> ah, here it is 22:19:33 <|amethyst> %git 14c15f2d 22:19:33 07peterb1202 * 0.3-a0-144-g14c15f2: Moving main monster descriptions out of describe.cc and into mon-data.h 10(7 years ago, 5 files, 788+ 1847-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=14c15f2dddc6 22:19:57 there is not an lm query for that 22:20:00 <|amethyst> that's the one that made the description say "dragon" 22:20:10 but there's a branch on git that makes there be one 22:20:28 <|amethyst> the problem being that it just about doubles the size of the milestone file 22:20:33 oop 22:20:48 <|amethyst> but there was talk of reducing the frequency of uniques 22:20:51 yeah 22:20:58 I think that's a good 0.15 goal tbqh 22:21:40 <|amethyst> !lm * / verb~~uniq 22:21:48 3994343/8419799 milestones for *: N=3994343/8419799 (47.44%) 22:21:59 can you say 22:22:01 <|amethyst> err, I guess 1.5x rather than double 22:22:06 !lm * / verb~~uniq noun=tiamat 22:22:09 2776/8419799 milestones for *: N=2776/8419799 (0.03%) 22:22:11 neat 22:22:21 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: those are only kills/pacifications though 22:22:30 sure but that gives a basis of comparison 22:22:32 <|amethyst> /banishments 22:22:37 !lm * / verb~~uniq noun=sigmund 22:22:41 211972/8419806 milestones for *: N=211972/8419806 (2.52%) 22:22:50 !lm * verb~~uniq / noun=sigmund 22:22:56 211972/3994344 milestones for * (verb~~uniq): N=211972/3994344 (5.31%) 22:23:09 good sigmund 22:23:17 lm * verb~~uniq / noun=ijyb 22:23:18 <|amethyst> !lm * uniq s=noun 22:23:22 !lm * verb~~uniq / noun=ijyb 22:23:32 3971904 milestones for * (uniq): 324751x Ijyb, 229623x Jessica, 211173x Sigmund, 196006x Terence, 165136x Blork the orc, 158525x Edmund, 146062x Crazy Yiuf, 130482x Eustachio, 128489x Dowan, 127260x Duvessa, 114617x Pikel, 99554x Prince Ribbit, 98675x Grinder, 98001x Menkaure, 87516x Joseph, 79561x Psyche, 72528x Erolcha, 72500x Grum, 69645x Erica, 69123x Harold, 68257x Maurice, 57527x Urug, 54428... 22:23:38 325057/3994344 milestones for * (verb~~uniq): N=325057/3994344 (8.14%) 22:24:03 I wonder if tiamat is the rarest unique 22:24:08 it'd be her or ignacio, maybe 22:24:16 !lm * uniq s=-noun 22:24:17 dissolution 22:24:20 what about murray 22:24:24 murray is cool 22:24:27 and norbert 22:24:28 3971905 milestones for * (uniq): the helpless Harold, the Hell Sentinel shaped Serpent of Hell, the helpless Kirke, the three-headed Lernaean hydra, the ten-headed Lernaean hydra, the helpless Erica, the helpless Nessos, the helpless Nergalle, the helpless Grinder, the helpless Maurice, the fire giant, the titan shaped Lernaean hydra, the acid blob shaped Lernaean hydra, the eight-headed Lernaean ... 22:24:33 oops 22:24:37 yeah 22:24:40 !lm * recent s=-uniq 22:24:48 1408969 milestones for * (recent): the nine-headed Lernaean hydra, the iron dragon shaped Royal Jelly, the titan shaped Lernaean hydra, the seven-headed Lernaean hydra, the wind drake shaped Lernaean hydra, the slime creature shaped Lernaean hydra, the ten-headed Lernaean hydra, the giant slug shaped Lernaean hydra, the 14-headed Lernaean hydra, the 13-headed Lernaean hydra, the Hell Sentinel shap... 22:24:54 oh, those are recent? 22:25:03 iron dragon shaped royal jelly 22:25:04 !lm * 0.14-a s=-uniq 22:25:07 I want to see that game 22:25:07 586739 milestones for * (0.14-a): the 18-headed Lernaean hydra, the seven-headed Lernaean hydra, the nine-headed Lernaean hydra, the 13-headed Lernaean hydra, the hellephant shaped Serpent of Hell, the titan shaped Lernaean hydra, the wind drake shaped Lernaean hydra, the Hell Sentinel shaped Serpent of Hell, the 15-headed Lernaean hydra, 2x the 11-headed Lernaean hydra, 3x the elephant slug shape... 22:25:16 !lm * 0.14-a s=-uniq name!~lerna 22:25:18 er 22:25:21 !lm * 0.14-a s=-uniq noun!~lerna 22:25:21 586739 milestones for * (0.14-a name!~lerna): the 18-headed Lernaean hydra, the seven-headed Lernaean hydra, the nine-headed Lernaean hydra, the 13-headed Lernaean hydra, the hellephant shaped Serpent of Hell, the titan shaped Lernaean hydra, the wind drake shaped Lernaean hydra, the Hell Sentinel shaped Serpent of Hell, the 15-headed Lernaean hydra, 2x the 11-headed Lernaean hydra, 3x the elephan... 22:25:26 585836 milestones for * (0.14-a noun!~lerna): the Hell Sentinel shaped Serpent of Hell, the hellephant shaped Serpent of Hell, 3x the elephant slug shaped Royal Jelly, 6x the titan shaped Royal Jelly, 99x Blork, 125x Ignacio, 230x Dissolution, 267x Satan Claus, 269x Murray, 280x Tiamat, 392x Antaeus, 402x Cerebov, 423x Asmodeus, 431x Khufu, 461x Dispater, 479x Lom Lobon, 484x Ereshkigal, 522x Gloo... 22:25:28 <|amethyst> elliptic: also "helpless" 22:25:31 elephant slug shaped 22:25:35 blork 22:25:39 that's good enough, I guess ignacio wins 22:25:42 uh. blork? 22:25:48 that is polymorphed blork 22:25:52 when he's not an orc 22:25:55 he shows up strangely because his name is strange 22:25:55 I was wondering 22:26:05 murray is rarer than tiamat! huh 22:26:09 I would not have expected that 22:26:10 <|amethyst> Newman the Human 22:26:16 well, "rarer" 22:26:20 he's like the 4.1 uniques 22:26:31 probably a decent number of people see tiamat but don't kill her 22:26:36 sure 22:26:36 i have! 22:26:39 whereas everyone who sees murray kills him :P 22:27:09 ignacio is also not really rare given that he exists in 50% of games 22:27:53 most games don't go to pan, though 22:27:56 yes 22:27:58 yes 22:28:19 dissolution has a cool backstory 22:28:40 -!- calebengland has quit [Quit: calebengland] 22:28:47 <|amethyst> Most games don't go past D:3 :P 22:28:48 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:28:54 true 22:29:16 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:31 I'm trying to decide what I think of azrael's description. it's a little boring 22:29:33 but w/e 22:29:42 <|amethyst> (D:3 seems to be the median) 22:29:57 <|amethyst> !lg * !boring / place~~d:[123]$ 22:30:03 1463489/2518470 games for * (!boring): N=1463489/2518470 (58.11%) 22:30:04 <|amethyst> !lg * !boring / place~~^d:[123]$ 22:30:10 1463489/2518470 games for * (!boring): N=1463490/2518470 (58.11%) 22:30:11 <|amethyst> !lg * !boring / place~~^d:[12]$ 22:30:16 1049833/2518471 games for * (!boring): N=1049833/2518471 (41.69%) 22:30:37 !lg * recent !boring / place~~d:[123]$ 22:30:42 433992/762095 games for * (recent !boring): N=433992/762095 (56.95%) 22:30:56 <|amethyst> uh-oh, the game's gotten easier 22:31:05 shit 22:31:07 nerf players 22:31:52 <|amethyst> actually, can kill two birds with one stone 22:31:53 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:31:56 <|amethyst> put Tiamat on D:3 22:32:05 it'll teach players to run away! 22:32:11 tiamat basically already exists on D:3 occasionally 22:32:14 plus, give them a challenge on the ascent :) 22:32:16 when someone dies there on orbrun 22:32:27 wait, do orb ghosts actually show up on d floors 22:32:30 yes 22:32:33 that's amazing 22:32:54 I always assumed orb ghosts got vaporized - I'd never seen one 22:33:03 well obviously they are pretty rare :P 22:33:35 !lm * recent type=orb lg:place~~^d:[3-9]$ 22:33:41 13. [2014-03-24 14:13:46] radinms the Eclecticist (L25 DrIE of Sif Muna) found the Orb of Zot! (Zot:5) 22:33:47 pleasingfungus: if you need any help with description rewrites, feel free to PM me via tavern or wherever 22:33:51 kinda sad that neither of my orb ghosts got a kill 22:33:55 13 people dying on D:3-9 on orbrun in "recent" 22:34:02 (the last year or so) 22:34:05 archaeo: I'm not on tavern, but thanks for the offer! 22:34:12 welp 22:34:15 haha 22:34:21 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:34:32 !lm * recent type=orb lg:place~~^d:[3-9]$ s=crace 22:34:37 -!- calebengland has quit [Client Quit] 22:34:45 13 milestones for * (recent type=orb lg:place~~^d:[3-9]$): 4x Minotaur, 2x Lava Orc, Hill Orc, Gargoyle, Felid, Merfolk, Demonspawn, Draconian, Tengu 22:35:00 oh. you can enjoy the asterion rewrite that I spent forever arguing with gammafunk over 22:35:01 !lm * recent type=orb lg:place~~^d:[3-9]$ / lg:status=lich-form 22:35:14 Once a king infamous for waging bloodthirsty campaigns, Asterion was cursed for his crimes: transformed into a horrible minotaur and exiled to the depths of the dungeon. Here he lurks in his tattered finery, dreaming of a new kingdom. 22:35:16 In his lust for power, the minotaur king turned to the worship of Makhleb, and Makhleb has rewarded him greatly. Terrible destructive might stands ready to obliterate any who oppose Asterion. 22:35:18 0/13 milestones for * (recent type=orb lg:place~~^d:[3-9]$): N=0/13 (0.00%) 22:35:28 I guess none of them were undead even, so should all have produced ghosts 22:35:43 that last Asterion seems like a 'him' would work better 22:36:36 seems fine without the last sentence, even 22:36:41 or honestly i'm not sure the last sentence is necessary, it could be "rewarded him greatly with terrible destructive might" 22:36:50 take out greatly, even 22:37:00 In his lust for power, the minotaur king turned to the worship of Makhleb, and Makhleb has rewarded him with terrible destructive might. 22:37:13 it's not that terrible! 22:37:16 :) 22:37:39 could be 'horrifying' 22:38:00 it's not that horrible! 22:38:24 haha 22:38:49 PleasingFungus: here is one game with an orbrun ghost killing someone 22:38:52 !lg * recent place~~^d:[3-9]$ ckiller=player_ghost ckaux~~great_blast 22:38:54 1. toma the Ducker (L9 DsWn of Makhleb), blasted by Atenologic's ghost (great blast of fire) on D:8 on 2013-05-12 18:43:00, with 3161 points after 10142 turns and 1:14:33. 22:39:05 one game or *the* one game? 22:39:10 I can't imagine it'd happen too often 22:39:14 no, there have been others 22:39:20 oh god that's such an unfair death though 22:39:24 this was just easy to find because it was fire storm 22:39:28 !lg * recent place~~^d:[3-9]$ ckiller=player_ghost ckaux~~great_blast -tv 22:39:29 1. toma, XL9 DsWn, T:10142 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 22:40:05 rat, big kobold zombie, firestorm 22:40:26 _Atenologic's ghost whispers, "The ORB doesn't exist." 22:40:27 oh my god that death 22:40:29 Atenologic's ghost casts a spell at you. 22:40:29 A raging storm of fire appears! The great blast of fire engulfs you! 22:40:31 should have pressed v 22:40:31 good messages 22:40:48 strange that the ghost should think that 22:40:58 -!- Lumpydoo_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:41:02 it was a plastic imitation 22:41:14 ghosts are all liars 22:41:20 !lg * recent place~~^d:[3-9]$ ckiller=player_ghost ckaux~~great_blast x=dam 22:41:21 1. [dam=87] toma the Ducker (L9 DsWn of Makhleb), blasted by Atenologic's ghost (great blast of fire) on D:8 on 2013-05-12 18:43:00, with 3161 points after 10142 turns and 1:14:33. 22:41:26 solid 22:41:28 anyway I wouldn't mind removing tiamat from D:3 22:41:59 but I'm not sure what the best way is of doing it and it really affects very few games compared with a lot of other unfair things 22:42:12 it'd be cool if orb ghosts appeared as orb run spawns. I imagine the code required for that would be... involved, though 22:42:22 for a very rare case 22:42:41 as the person who wrote "tattered finery" 22:42:42 I am sorry 22:42:52 PleasingFungus: that is sort of a cool idea 22:43:05 orbrun ghosts aren't quite so rare deeper 22:43:14 !lm * recent orb !won 22:43:14 189. [2014-04-02 04:21:05] zephy the Fencer (L27 HaFi of Okawaru) found the Orb of Zot! (Zot:5) 22:43:23 archaeo: I like it! I like the tattered finery! 22:43:31 I actually took it out in an earlier revision, and then added it back 22:43:34 it's a good touch 22:43:51 it's not terrible, but it's no Fannar 22:44:09 fannar's original description was truly special 22:44:12 it will be missed 22:44:46 so i keep playing crypt and getting to crypt:3 and it's not the last floor of the branch somehow, this seems like a good thing to change in 0.15 22:45:26 o 22:45:31 but then where will tso converts farm for piety 22:45:38 Depths! 22:45:57 or the top floor of a hell (I did this once after getting penanced) 22:45:59 The Iron City of Dis 22:46:08 Zigs (cf. elliptic) 22:46:08 PleasingFungus: zig 22:46:13 elliptic: hi 22:46:14 haha 22:46:14 <_< 22:46:27 you don't even have to complete the zig to get to ****** 22:46:31 I think zig:23 worked 22:46:32 yeah crypts could probably survive being a little shorter 22:46:36 *crypt 22:46:50 I think 4 floors would be reasonable but you could go to 3 22:47:15 MarvinPA: are you sure you aren't playing nostalgiacrawl, pretty sure that where the branches are surprisingly long 22:47:27 it fills a role fairly similar to elf so 3 makes sense 22:47:37 yeah, elf feels like the comparison 22:47:44 lair:5 crypt:3 elf:2 hells:3 22:48:18 I still want lair subbranches to be only 3 levels long too, but I guess making them that short might not be great balancewise now 22:48:21 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:48:22 maybe 4? 22:48:32 just add a level of depths, that will balance out the xp 22:48:34 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:48:35 compromise is important 22:48:49 oh man I would totally trade a level from each lair branch for another depths level 22:48:51 depths is fun! 22:48:52 slime definitely doesn't have to be 6 levels anyway 22:49:23 the thing with both slime and hell is that you're heavily encouraged to dive 22:49:27 making hells 5 sounds reasonable but i don't have any firsthand experience 22:49:28 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 22:49:55 you aren't really encouraged to dive slime 22:49:59 really? 22:50:04 there's no loot and lots of corrosion/mut 22:50:08 it has a ton of xp and the dangerous moments are when you go downstairs 22:50:20 and it doesn't really have that much corrosion/mut for most chars 22:51:05 idk. it's sort of tricky to balance in that case, because there's two very different playstyles with wildly varying risk levels 22:51:27 not really 22:51:37 maybe you could play with layout gen to make the outcome more similar. fewer levels with more stair distance... 22:52:52 it isn't comparable to hells at least, where being longer means more time without a great opportunity to rest 22:54:25 I think I've lost the link to it - wasn't there a crawl style guide on the devwiki somewhere? or maybe it was a gdoc... 22:54:38 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:55:17 it wasn't an "official" style guide, just some guidelines for the tavern's text improvement thing that i approve of at least (and that were promptly ignored it seems :P) 22:55:47 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L6x_aNUayQCjqz6Dj_PKeXJYcf8EEBAVx6rYzwI4AzE/edit?hl=en_GB (from this thread https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2100) 22:56:16 ah, that was it. Thanks! 22:57:17 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:18 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:57:41 which reminds me to finish my branch moving all the item quotes away from the middle of all the actually useful information 22:58:01 i guess ideally they should be on a separate page entirely 22:58:10 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 22:59:23 -!- Rewans has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:02:15 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:09:20 -!- caleba has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:12:28 -!- Mad_Wack is now known as Mad_Wack_Away 23:12:28 -!- Mad_Wack_Away has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:15:04 Arachne (11H) | Spd: 15 | HD: 17 | HP: 200 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 30 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, web sense | Res: 06magic(68) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 3551 | Sp: ensnare, poison arrow (3d24), blink, b.venom (3d21) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 23:15:04 %??arachne 23:16:12 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:16:12 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:16:29 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:28:31 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:48 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:35:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:36:25 -!- home_babu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:39:10 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:57 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:43:07 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:44:38 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:44:59 someone could probably remove Donald's forest lines 23:45:09 it'd be an excuse to make another 'Remove Forest' commit 23:45:12 which is always a plus 23:45:26 @The_monster@ says, "I asked some spriggans for directions; they got kind of evasive about it." 23:45:44 @The_monster@ says, "Those wind drakes are really a blast. I still hate them." 23:46:06 You could always move them into other branches 23:46:12 haha 23:46:18 true 23:46:24 spriggan one can go into depths, wind drake into shoals 23:46:49 (if someone still had the entrance to Forest in their game, what would happen if they went in?) 23:47:04 they would enter forest 23:47:09 terrifying 23:47:58 (Next enemy design: a spriggan air mage atop a wind drake) 23:48:14 you monster 23:48:34 you're forgetting the rule 23:48:36 ??rules[1 23:48:36 rules[1/6]: Remove 5 monsters for every monster you add. 23:49:01 i've stockpiled up enough removals to probably add 2 monsters at this point 23:49:14 -!- Flower has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:49:41 !!! 23:49:59 technically, a spriggan air mage on a wind drake could arguably count as two monsters 23:50:02 in a sense 23:50:40 or zero, depending on how you look at it 23:50:59 true! 23:51:37 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:55:38 -!- Eonwe1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:55:49 -!- mtlsj has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:57:00 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58:30 -!- vulscuk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:59:44 -!- Xenobreeder_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]