00:00:21 Because I had that happen and it wasn't pleasent. She was in the water far enough I couldn't reach...I couldn't run and couldn't go closer. This was the sewer version and I had no flight or ranged weaponry 00:00:30 So of all the gods present in 2.80 -- that's Zin, TSO, Kiku, Xom, Okawaru, Makhleb, Sif, Trog, and Ely (the others I mentioned are disabled) - guess who's changed the least since then. 00:01:21 ....either Kiku or Sif 00:01:34 vehamut 00:01:43 Wrong on both counts (though Sif is probably in second place). 00:01:49 I'll take it 00:02:06 xom? 00:02:06 makhleb? 00:02:07 Makky I could see 00:02:09 its not xom 00:02:12 Makhleb. 00:02:13 xom 00:02:15 yeah 00:02:18 oh, hu 00:02:22 makky was my no. 3 choice 00:02:34 just wasn't sure about status of demons that early 00:02:37 i know 4.1 xom isn't too different from modern, besides from more things 00:02:47 but 2.8 to 4.1 is a long time 00:02:52 i would say that .14 xom is very different from even .10 xom 00:03:00 Is it TSO or Zin that has the most Conducts? 00:03:05 so unless 4.1 xom is somehow closer to .14 xom than .10 xom was 00:03:29 makhleb gave hp for kills all that time ago? 00:03:40 Yes. 00:03:41 probably hp and mp 00:03:43 :p 00:03:47 ah, right 00:03:55 i only knew about the mp because of badlearndb 00:03:58 Yes, MP too. 00:04:18 oh, so nem actually wasn't in the first god release? 00:04:26 even though he had some kind of code in 2.7? 00:04:38 ah yeah, you said that 00:05:00 <|amethyst> !tell DracoOmega re summoning_adjustments, I haven't restarted webtiles yet; I usually only do that to *add* stuff :) 00:05:01 |amethyst: OK, I'll let dracoomega know. 00:05:01 The ones who have bits of code but aren't present are Yred, Vehumet, and Nemelex. 00:05:26 Hrm, the remove nem proposal would remove one of the Old Gods, then 00:05:34 that's always dangerous, I hear. 00:05:55 Anyway, 2.80 Sif doesn't have channeling (!!!) and gains piety from actuall spellcasting, as opposed to training spell skills. 00:05:56 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:07 s/ll/l/ 00:06:18 yes, rip mummies sitting in temple to gain infinite sif piety 00:06:23 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:06:26 that's closer to the same back then, except for that 00:06:35 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-3168-gfdc5474 (34) 00:06:39 -!- ac13 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:46 |amethyst: if you're still awake, could you apply this smithgod patch? http://sprunge.us/GOBc 00:08:17 Someone wants to plain remove Nem? 00:08:25 (I would wait til tomorrow, but I figured you're less busy on the weekends) 00:09:28 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:28 buppy: he's in US central time, so it's pretty late there :) 00:10:48 as in technically it's not the weekend any more 00:11:11 none of the gods are strictly Cthonic...or Cthulonic. 00:11:29 ...so if I'm tracing these announcements correctly, Vehumet appeared in 3.00, Nemelex in 3.10, Yred in 3.20. 00:11:32 gammafunk: I blame daylight savings 00:11:45 Grunt: where do you get this info? 00:11:59 wheals: poking through the source code and trawling old rec.games.roguelike.misc posts :b 00:12:27 -!- utrick has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!] 00:12:33 What's the newest pre-dith god? 00:12:55 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:57 I'm guessing Jiyva 00:13:23 ash 00:13:25 Ash 00:13:26 . 00:13:29 <|amethyst> Bcadren: Fedhas seems awfully chthonic 00:13:55 Assuming the enums are still in order, they were added in the following order: Lugonu, Beogh, Jiyva, Fedhas, Chei, Ash. 00:14:26 |amethyst true enough. 00:14:29 zin is #1! 00:14:33 (and the earlier enums are still in 2.80's order, so that's probably a sign that they're still there) 00:14:38 Ash is newer than Chei and Fedhas? 00:15:06 Bcadren: yep 00:15:11 %git 1066dfb 00:15:11 07haranp02 * 0.2-a0-160-g1066dfb: Implemented David Ploog's "Lucy" abyssal god. An altar has a 20% chance of showing up in each Abyss area. Many things still need to be done: better naming, better descriptive text, differentiation from Makhleb in preferences, etc. Playtesting and debugging required. Breaks savefiles. 10(7 years ago, 10 files, 202+ 27-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1066dfb75a2e 00:15:24 %git 6dba2ac 00:15:24 07jpeg02 * 0.3-a0-385-g6dba2ac: Implemented Beogh, god of Orcs. 10(7 years ago, 15 files, 588+ 25-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6dba2ac32df5 00:16:07 03pubby02 {|amethyst} 07[smithgod] * 0.14-a0-2806-ge3a679b: Improve artefactize weapon. 10(40 minutes ago, 4 files, 102+ 63-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3a679bd8e96 00:16:07 03pubby02 {|amethyst} 07[smithgod] * 0.14-a0-2807-ga6358ae: Fix an Igni piety gain message. 10(37 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6358aeedebd 00:16:34 %git 6d7627cb 00:16:34 07jpeg02 * 0.6.0-a0-258-g6d7627c: Add the Slime god as per n78291's (Shayne?) patch. Thanks! :D 10(4 years, 8 months ago, 35 files, 1001+ 56-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d7627cb65e5 00:16:41 %git 3a83e92a 00:16:41 07jpeg02 * 0.6.0-a0-315-g3a83e92: Apply caotto's plant god patch, for now named "Feawn". Also fix potions of porridge's menu colour being yellow for Mummies. 10(4 years, 8 months ago, 28 files, 1286+ 114-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a83e92a99ce 00:16:42 much appreciated |amethyst 00:17:01 haha, add the slime god as per N78291 00:17:01 "Apply caotto's plant god patch, for now named "Feawn". Also fix potions of porridge's menu colour being yellow for Mummies." 00:17:03 oh hey, I had forgotten 78291 was behind jiyva 00:17:10 i love these old commits 00:17:12 -!- ac13 has quit [Quit: ac13] 00:17:19 !lg * fedhas 1 00:17:19 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:17:20 1/8870. N78291 the Severer (L22 DsFi of Fedhas), blasted by a black draconian annihilator (crystal spear) in the Abyss on 2009-09-05 00:50:39, with 354020 points after 124638 turns and 5:20:59. 00:17:20 !lm * jiyva 1 00:17:21 1/41396. [2009-09-05 15:11:08] N78291 the Slayer (L23 MDFi of Jiyva) became a worshipper of Jiyva on turn 70083. (Vaults:8) 00:17:26 %git 4862ac7b 00:17:26 07neunon02 * 0.6.0-a0-1384-g4862ac7: gods: added "Chronos", the slow god 10(4 years, 5 months ago, 18 files, 300+ 35-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4862ac7ba83d 00:17:32 Experimental (smithgod) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2807-ga6358ae 00:17:41 vaults:8 jiyva altar? 00:17:41 %git 0b25078c 00:17:41 07kilobyte02 * 0.8.0-a0-1725-g0b25078: Ashenzari: enums, altar and descriptions. 10(3 years, 5 months ago, 11 files, 58+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b25078c9617 00:18:45 None are lovecraftian though heh 00:18:58 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:19:07 %git d9cdcdc 00:19:08 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-1839-gd9cdcdc: Shadow god - initial enums, features, descriptions, basics. 10(8 weeks ago, 13 files, 89+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9cdcdccebdd 00:19:17 ...that's all of them! <3 00:19:19 <|amethyst> You worship Glrghnyathulep. 00:19:22 <|amethyst> You die... 00:19:22 Save macros? 00:19:31 s??goodcode[sanity 00:19:32 goodcode[3/7]: if (sanity >= max_sanity) break; 00:19:49 i assume it would be basically that 00:20:10 instead of a piety meter, you have an interest meter, which as it goes up you gain powers but become inherently weaker 00:20:34 <|amethyst> Maybe we'll get millions of new gods in 0.15 00:20:37 wheals: so, chei 00:20:45 hahaha 00:20:55 i did not think of that but apparently 00:21:19 chei is actually an evil god, but he tells his followers this so slowly nobody has ever realized 00:21:31 hah 00:21:34 I was thinking more tentacles and less insanity, but yea 00:21:49 if you want tentacles we have jiyva 00:21:57 I think in 0.15 we just go with each level has a z-axis for sure 00:21:59 <|amethyst> Bcadren: skill-plant kiku has tentacle-like things! 00:22:02 hentai for the hentai god 00:22:04 <|amethyst> s/skill/skull/ 00:22:54 maybe that's what we need, dual-god worship 00:23:02 Followers of Kiku-Fedhas 00:23:13 ettin race needs that 00:23:41 <|amethyst> ??wontdo 00:23:41 I don't have a page labeled wontdo in my learndb. 00:23:47 <|amethyst> ??rejected ideas 00:23:48 I don't have a page labeled rejected_ideas in my learndb. 00:24:03 nothing is rejected, says the learndb 00:24:07 !learn add wont_do https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:wont_do 00:24:07 wont do[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:wont_do 00:24:16 (can someone change that page title back) 00:24:36 Though I think worshipping multiple gods could be interesting...it's too complicated for crawl and would be practically rewriting the codebase/creating a new game. There? 00:25:11 *links this again* https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:god:propose:the_forgotten 00:25:34 that wont_do wiki page should be updated 00:25:34 I believe POWDER has multiple god worship, in the sense that there are a number of different gods, all of which are interested in you 00:25:50 "There's Felids in 0.8, though." this makes it sounds like they only existed in 0.8 and before 00:25:51 (fr) 00:26:36 >double no to wearing two amulets at once 00:26:41 "double no" means yes! 00:26:49 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:26:52 <|amethyst> only if you're multiplying 00:27:03 <|amethyst> err 00:27:07 <|amethyst> that sounded creepy 00:27:12 <|amethyst> I did not intend it that wa 00:27:12 <|amethyst> y 00:28:23 haha 00:28:36 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:29:51 -!- UnknownUser has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:55 |amethyst: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=30#comic 00:30:50 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:31:00 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:31:23 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31:32 has anyone ever suggested something like demigods gaining followers? 00:31:46 I think sub-races (like, picking a high elf mummy or a hill orc mummy or a vine stalker demonspawn) should be added to that won't do page, there has been a strangely large number of people suggesting them 00:31:54 -!- truemonolith has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 00:32:27 :) 00:32:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:32:39 itym demonspawn stalker 00:32:47 hill mummy 00:33:04 vine spawn demonstalker 00:33:15 Mummies and Vampires do seem like they would be altered from a base race instead of their own thing...though I guess we assume they are all former human 00:33:43 minmay: it's not like you can't add it yourself 00:33:55 oh is that page still unprotected haha 00:34:19 i mean, it's a wiki 00:34:28 well, I'd want an official (i.e. not on tavern) statement before doing something like that myself 00:34:43 since I don't know if it's actually a "won't do" thing 00:35:04 -!- utrick has joined ##crawl-dev 00:37:05 Did mt god bring that on? 00:48:10 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:53:17 -!- nrook has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:58:03 so, if anyone in here is interested 00:58:10 i just had a gnoll show up 00:58:16 with an umbra around it, wearing a ring 00:58:21 and when i killed it the umbra stayed on the ground 00:58:25 the ring is not ring of shadows 00:58:42 i hope i did not do a bad thing 00:58:50 well ti sounds like you did :P 00:59:50 "Here, A ring of shadows (on the ground) (no literally a ring of shadows on the ground, what did you think it was an item?) 00:59:57 " 01:00:24 maybe there's an invisible peaceful profane servitor around 01:00:26 I think I know what might have caused the umbra, need to identify the ring first 01:00:48 what happens when you pick it up 01:00:55 the ring? nothing 01:01:04 there's just a permanent umbra on the ground where the gnoll died 01:01:11 (and the umbra *was* moving with the gnoll before it died) 01:01:35 gnoll of dith 01:02:57 protection from magic, that's random 01:03:10 yes 01:03:24 um 01:03:27 apparently the umbra vanished when i left the level 01:03:36 %git :/Shadows 01:03:37 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2955-g8063b24: Use the Shadow Creature icon for Weave Shadows. 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8063b2470d8a 01:03:45 anyway I can't reproduce this in wizmode, giving a gnoll a ring of protection of magic doesnt make an umbra 01:04:25 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:05:48 i guess maybe the special field of the item somehow became equal to UNRAND_SHADOWS, that doesn't make much sense though 01:07:30 -!- belanovskaya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:10:26 wheals: oh, it might actually be a save compat thing 01:10:36 I transferred this game on turn 0 01:11:01 &dump minmay 01:11:02 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/minmay/minmay.txt 01:11:48 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 01:11:52 that would still probably be not good 01:11:54 death ooze (06J) | Spd: 12 | HD: 11 | HP: 36-61 | AC/EV: 2/4 | Dam: 3204(rot), 32 | 07undead, 04eats items, evil, sense invisible | Res: 06magic(117), 02cold, 09poison+++, 08acid+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1093 | Sz: little | Int: plant. 01:11:54 %??death ooze 01:12:02 if the save compat were working wrong 01:12:13 maybe not my fault though 01:12:16 Glass cannony huh 01:13:04 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! 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Use !messages to read them. 09:36:16 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 09:37:06 maybe check_antennae_detect() shouldn't be called check_antennae_detect() any more 09:37:19 and shouldn't be in mutation.cc i guess 09:38:02 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:18 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:39:27 -!- culcube is now known as phyphor 09:41:12 dunno where else it would go though, effects.cc maybe! it's definitely "misc stuff" 09:42:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:44:17 <|amethyst> I'd say main.cc and make it static 09:44:24 <|amethyst> since that's the only place it's used 09:44:33 if it is "misc stuff" surely it should go in misc.cc or stuff.cc... 09:46:18 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:49:34 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:49:35 -!- Zephryn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:49:36 -!- iasov has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:49:36 -!- phyphor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:52:57 -!- master_j has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 09:53:35 |amethyst: yeah, although maybe the radius bit shouldn't be static? if _update_monster needs to check for it to decide whether you can "detect" an invisible monster that's in los 09:53:51 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 09:56:47 i guess i need to look at gammafunk's stuff properly to understand what's going on here 09:57:41 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:49 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:03:37 -!- qoon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:07:31 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:07:41 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:43 -!- rast- is now known as rast 10:15:04 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-3169-g0a811b5: Check directly for halo removal on monster death 10(61 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a811b56cdc1 10:15:04 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-3170-gf8235ae: Update a comment 10(59 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f8235aeeb02d 10:19:10 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:19:48 -!- clockwheel has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:24:29 -!- SublimeSnake has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:28:45 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 10:37:43 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:54 -!- MakMorn has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:39:17 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:29 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:48:04 -!- Beast_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:51:16 -!- rossi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:53:04 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:09 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-3171-g6883db6: Expand documentation of is_*_item functions. 10(31 seconds ago, 1 file, 55+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6883db6b83f6 11:04:37 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [] 11:06:32 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:13:59 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:15:32 |amethyst: thanks for function documentation; I'm pledging to document any function I touch, myself, but I think I've violated that rule already... 11:15:33 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:15:49 gammafunk: and now you see the problem :( 11:16:21 !send Grunt /* */ 11:16:22 Sending /* */ to Grunt. 11:16:49 -!- DJgamer98 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:17:09 !send gammafunk #if 0 11:17:10 Sending #if 0 to gammafunk. 11:19:04 -!- qoon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:23:37 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:25:09 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25:09 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:26:48 Grunt: I'm also making a comment_updates branch to atone for my sins (at least for the recentish ones). 11:26:51 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:27:21 !leard del gammafunk[8 11:27:27 !learn del gammafunk[8 11:27:28 Deleted gammafunk[8/12]: todo: fix black mark crash if no one else does 11:27:32 !learn del gammafunk[8 11:27:33 Deleted gammafunk[8/11]: todo: bug, targetter rays continue to show in tiles/webtiles when obscured by clouds. 11:29:15 MarvinPA: Yes, wrt antennae and invis in LOS, I didn't check the radius, but that'd be easy to do 11:29:21 ??antennae 11:29:22 antennae[1/2]: Detects monsters in a 2/4/6 square radius of the player; detected monsters are represented by a red {. Gives sInv and removes head slot at 3. 11:29:32 oh wow, only 2 at the first mutation level 11:30:26 yeah unrelatedly i was going to bump them up slightly, 3/5/7 or 4/6/8 even i guess 11:30:42 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:24 ok, I'll wait until you make that change, then 11:32:06 (Fo buff) 11:32:07 <_< 11:32:45 !source show.cc:478 11:32:46 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/show.cc;hb=HEAD#l478 11:32:51 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:29 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:33:30 MarvinPA: If you'd like to fix this yourself, all you have to do is change that boolean so that it does a distance check based on grid distance between you.pos() and mons->pos() 11:33:58 the other thing i was wondering about was the case where you have detection from ash or the boots of the assassin 11:34:11 it looks like the fix wouldn't apply to those cases? 11:34:21 yes, but you could also just add those cases 11:34:22 but when i tested i still got always got a disturbance 11:34:30 hrm 11:35:08 so with Ash at not-sinv piety levels, you always saw the invis indicator? 11:35:09 *Wonders* Would anyone use and how hard to implement would a god of luck be? A literally RNGod, that's only function was if [Piety Check] take the highest of two rolls for an action, instead of a single roll (can be any action, including biasing Mut pots to good mutations). 11:35:17 yeah 11:35:37 I wonder if that interacts with monster stealth somehow 11:35:55 maybe makes them always fail a stealth check 11:36:05 yeah i don't think i fully understand how it all works, but i was trying with goblins so it could have just been that they always failed that check somehow 11:36:25 maybe part of the solution would be to remove monster stealth :p 11:37:12 Monsters have stealth? I mean other than the cloaked ones like Trapdoor spiders. 11:38:19 I guess I'm confused about what ash does, because I don't see that he grants ...oh 11:38:27 stealth itself isn't very complicated i guess (i like the special-casing for orcs though) 11:38:45 The orc suddenly grunts, as orcs often do. 11:38:45 The problem is he does passive detection of monsters out of LOS, but then if you don't have sinv and monster enters your LOS 11:38:48 you get nothing 11:39:09 Right, I think you'd just add more cases in that line I mentioned 11:39:13 well, it's a completely opaque (ha) mechanic 11:39:28 ??ash 11:39:29 ashenzari[1/5]: God of divinations, knowledge, and curses. Likes it when you wear cursed gear while exploring the world. Grants passive monster/item detection, item identification (see [2]), mapping (like DD), sInv & Clarity (3*), {ash skill boost}, and active scrying (4*). Allows you to {reskill}. 11:39:44 i guess it makes sense, i just played for years and never knew it 11:40:20 s/opaque/invisible/ 11:40:21 <_< >_> 11:40:25 Could give monster detection and sInv at the same time maybe. 11:40:25 at first the check was only constricting invis foe, then I added "does player have antennae", so we'd just add a distance check for antennae based on mutation level, and then an ash piety check (with distance?), and then one for the boots 11:40:27 If that helps. 11:40:39 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:41:03 Yeah, it's not hard to accomodate the current ash piety situation, but it could be simplified that way as well 11:41:17 gammafunk: i think splitting that stuff out into you.monster_detection_radius() or something would be best then 11:41:23 right 11:41:26 so it's not duplicated in a bunch of places 11:41:44 and then track down the other places it's used 11:42:21 (and then document the functions involved to prove Grunt wrong) 11:42:26 yeah, i don't think it's anywhere other than doing the detection itself but would still probably be neater that way 11:42:28 heh 11:42:35 would it be better to give a prompt on rebranding disto or remove the unwield effect-on-rebrand thing from it altogether? 11:42:55 the comment says "can't get rid of it this easily" but brand weapon isn't exactly easy to come by 11:43:29 think dpeg(?) suggested allowing brand get rid of disto safely 11:43:53 don't really see a problem with it myself 11:44:24 so finally there'd be a safe way of unwielding disto (not involving using a Lucy ability), but at least it takes away disto from the weapon? 11:44:47 isn't god rebranding already safe? 11:44:55 good question 11:45:00 i thought i did that already, guess not 11:45:20 ah just when you're worshipping lugonu 11:46:13 Sif's amnesia ability burns piety even if you cancel it by Sar 11:46:26 ah, I was just complaining about that myself 11:47:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:48:11 -!- Staplefun has quit 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03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-3172-gcde0df7: Temples and Vaults rooms from nicolae (#8110). 10(44 minutes ago, 3 files, 806+ 140-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cde0df7d6707 12:28:07 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-3173-g0e4da75: Some Shoals entries from elwin (#8106). 10(34 minutes ago, 1 file, 60+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e4da7589f74 12:28:07 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-3174-g1ea0e81: Park serial vault by coolio (#8099). 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 397+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ea0e81b4635 12:28:08 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:24 -!- Beast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:32:48 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:39 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:27 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:33 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 12:45:41 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:07 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:57 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:50:24 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53:26 Destroying dancing weapons creates text inconsistencies by Laraso 12:55:47 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:00:38 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02:59 -!- Wolpertinger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:08:54 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:58 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:09:29 -!- qoon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:15:26 -!- qoon_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:15:27 -!- qoon has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 13:17:21 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:26 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:58 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:21:24 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-3171-g6883db6 (34) 13:26:52 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:31:39 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:17 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:36:44 -!- 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14:04:37 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.14-a0-3178-g3781c67: Fix some weapon placements 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3781c67858f1 14:05:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:07:56 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:43 -!- NomadJim_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:13:09 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:38 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:53 -!- Moanerette has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:28:08 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:29:23 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:30:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:32:35 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: pchoooooooooooooooooooooo] 14:36:58 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:37:52 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:05 Summon Forest never fails by silentsnack 14:41:09 Is stabbing affected by armor? 14:41:19 I mean the target's AC? 14:42:05 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:43:32 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 14:43:48 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:32 <|amethyst> Bcadren: AC is applied after stabbing is factored into the damage 14:44:54 okay, i can't figure out what's wrong with vine tiles 14:46:15 <|amethyst> Bcadren: so it's the same as if you did the full amount of damage with a normal hit 14:48:02 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:24 sometimes the vine tile next to the tree is MONS_PROGRAM_BUG but i don't know why 14:50:59 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:52:38 ohhhh 14:52:50 that's weird 14:53:51 None of the enemy entries mention SH, do they just not have it with boosts to EV instead? 14:55:21 03ChrisOelmueller02 {wheals} 07* 0.14-a0-3179-g02f004d: Remove newline from plate armour item description 10(33 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=02f004d69e6f 14:55:21 03ChrisOelmueller02 {wheals} 07* 0.14-a0-3180-g63820d2: Item desc: Suppress quotes in all game modes 10(33 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=63820d2a7314 14:56:28 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:57:31 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:00:28 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-3181-g9a407c6: A large number of Kennysheep vaults (#7433, #7754, #7979). 10(3 minutes ago, 6 files, 898+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a407c609368 15:00:49 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:01:28 <|amethyst> Bcadren: monsters get SH from shields, but don't have any innate SH 15:01:50 -!- NomadJim_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:57 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:05 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:06 -!- rml has quit [Quit: -] 15:02:17 A dpeg appears! You don't feel so good about this. 15:02:23 <|amethyst> Bcadren: formula is in monster::shield_bonus 15:02:48 <|amethyst> Bcadren: depends on size, shield type, shield plus, and HD 15:02:56 <|amethyst> (monster size that is) 15:05:16 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:05:26 Grunt: Are you doing most of the vault reviews these days 15:05:28 dpeg: You have 8 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:05:34 -!- qoon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:05:56 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:59 dpeg: apparently! 15:06:13 (Someone else has volunteered for the job but he seems to be working on other things right now.) 15:06:55 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:59 -!- whig has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:07:08 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:28 (and turns up the moment he reads that commit, naturally <_<) 15:08:07 I was playing a new game for like five hours, sheesh 15:09:01 blasphemy, there are no game but crawl 15:09:09 i figured out why the vine tiles are messing up but i don't know how to fix it 15:09:50 -!- Blazinghand|Work is now known as Blazinghand 15:10:09 at the very least I should dig out and then finish the implied underlying issue for #8067 15:11:20 and considering I'm supposed to be editing everything I'm not greatly bothered by the pushes of most of the other stuff since I'll just be passing my gnarled claws over them 15:12:01 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:12:29 -!- SublimeSnake has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:13:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:13:56 -!- Adumbration has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:14:07 tenofswords: wonderful! 15:14:40 heh 15:14:47 (I've been meaning to disable a certain encompass vault and make a unique spawn regularly, but you're probably already moving in that direction, so...) 15:15:04 Grunt: ah, okay. Always a minor pity to see a valuable code waste time with things lesser members could do -- like I used to... another front where I flaked :O 15:16:15 Grunt: just reading the mantis comments: thanks for NO to ASCII art. 15:16:21 We don't want it! 15:16:25 well, the opposite direction actually, though even there I was going to actively interrupt and tone down the whole "exclusively be like X thing we removed" aspect 15:16:58 Good. 15:17:00 dpeg: at least, not since about four years or so where there used to be a distinct file just for that in entry vaults, right :P 15:17:45 * Grunt looks for that one learndb entry... 15:18:36 tenofswords: sorry, I am doing too many things at once... "opposite direction" to what? 15:19:18 ascii art is NOT a crime 15:19:51 okay, as long as it doesn't end up in des files! :) 15:19:55 dpeg: sorry - we're implicitly discussing what to do with kb_spriggan_forest. 15:20:02 ah, I had no idea 15:20:07 yes, that 15:20:23 (Apparently vault designers can read each others' minds after a while.) 15:20:26 Grunt: I think that altar bribery can work (you get something if you start worshiping the god right here). Did you reject Marbit's on grounds of spoilery or on general principles? 15:20:53 dpeg: it's the spoilery aspect of the design; the vault basically punishes autoexploration and other commonplace behaviour. 15:21:14 pity that, the idea sounds cute (and workable) 15:21:57 btw, in a lengthy forum posting I commented that it might be time to update vault making guidelines... I started this many years ago, but standards have risen 15:22:01 what do you think? 15:22:28 I have stated I'd do that for about a year 15:22:43 clearly shows how fast I am at doing things 15:23:40 good thing this is not a commercial product :) 15:24:00 but yeah, you'd be one of the best candidates to undertake such a project 15:24:22 enh, the commercial product might not have such docs either, and is more likely to ship trash that looks initially like the promised feature but does nothing 15:24:28 (I bet your ambitions are too high... just accept something less than perfect) 15:24:58 geekosaur: all true, they tend to ship something, though 15:25:03 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:25:12 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:32 pleh, I'm torn between placing certain decorative vaults in swamp or lair in this split 15:26:42 Both! 15:26:53 -!- koryaginae has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26:59 (time to make someone else's day while I'm at this...) 15:27:19 03wheals02 {Grunt} 07* 0.14-a0-3182-ga30d3a8: Some vaults (#7970). 10(8 weeks ago, 5 files, 127+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a30d3a829b17 15:28:05 sinkhole needs to be tagged as extra aaaaaaaaaaaa 15:28:54 speaking of ascii art vaults, there is a certain crypt end that i am still not a big fan of :/ 15:29:07 MarvinPA: the skull? 15:29:12 heh 15:29:14 yeah 15:29:25 yes, I definitely relate 15:29:30 it seems sort of unsubtle 15:29:49 didn't say anything about it back then because people were unhappy with my Cry[t ending (the caged liches) as well 15:30:02 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:30:10 (note to self: make sure you're updating the right mantis entry) 15:32:28 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-3183-g4b1f554: Extraify a minivault (tenofswords). 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4b1f55456fc6 15:32:30 could deform the layout a bunch until the shape is unrecognizable 15:33:36 on the plus side it's not so noticeable in console at least as it would be in tiles, so it doesn't annoy me too much when i play it :P 15:33:42 deforming it a bit might be good though yeah 15:34:30 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:50 -!- link_1081 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:36:39 are people really making their maps in tiles these day (e.g. trying to get circular shapes for tiles)? 15:36:49 oh, the humility :) 15:36:54 -!- ystael_ is now known as ystael 15:37:35 -!- lion_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:37:56 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 15:38:09 until console gets a better form of detect monsters for my psychotic refresh-twenty-times vault reviews I will be stuck on tiles 15:39:18 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:40:39 we could change detect monsters so it detect monsters 15:40:49 dpeg: It took me too long to realize that the vast difference in map appearence between the des text file and tile was not nearly so much in console 15:41:00 s/and tile/and tiles/ 15:41:12 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:25 gammafunk: :) 15:41:26 wheals: I mean not being able to discern differences between incarnations of a glyph when using &D 15:42:04 tenofswords: yes, and another complaint about console vs tiles is that X ] will show you better information in tiles 15:42:05 would xom be op if it just let you see the monsters 15:42:29 I suppose you could just color the enemies normally in X for console 15:42:37 I thought it was just interface silliness 15:42:57 "colouring things out of los the same as if they were in los", akin to "colouring things in los the same as things out of los" 15:43:09 what if those things are orange, though 15:43:16 then they are coloured that way 15:43:22 I didn't say the current way was much better 15:44:01 Just for monsters, since you've lost such important information 15:44:02 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:19 I'd really like to know whether that was an orc warrior near the stairs or just an orc 15:44:36 fair point 15:44:38 -!- soundlust|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:45:06 part of what i said is that exists from xom and one card 15:46:58 -!- soundlust has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:48:16 two cards, also xom card 15:48:23 as i saw right now 15:51:51 I don't think Xom should show monsters. 15:51:59 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:51:59 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:52:00 That'd a very constructive support. 15:54:29 The original plan (zooko, jpeg, me) was to make Xom battle effects relevant, generally positive. I suggest to add strong gifts on a separate timer: long-lasting strong ally; mutation set; strong item. All of these can happen now, but I want Xommists getting one of these earlier and more reliably. 15:56:01 fr xom gifts chaos champions 15:56:17 tenofswords: and vice versa 15:56:41 chaos champions gift xom...? 15:56:54 no, xom gifts you to chaos champions 15:57:17 pfffffft 15:57:42 gate other to pan 15:59:07 gammafunk: thanks for keeping it up in the "melee mechanics" thread. I think they overshoot, but I also think that we can learn a lot. (And I will try to get a general monster design discussion set up post-release.) 15:59:29 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0.1/20140212131424]] 15:59:35 "Here, take this Xom as token of my esteem." 16:00:06 you.religion = GOD_XOM 16:01:05 -!- link_1081 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:01:28 -!- darkfrog_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:03:35 Just posted another thing. https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11277 16:04:55 Bcadren: yes, just saw it 16:05:09 there is so much going on right now, it's a burden on my productivity 16:05:16 !send dpeg time 16:05:17 Sending time to dpeg. 16:05:32 !send dpeg a timeturner 16:05:32 Sending a timeturner to dpeg. 16:05:37 That'll help more 16:05:38 !send dpeg the Time God 16:05:39 !send Grunt hard time 16:05:39