00:01:28 -!- EatsDungeonBats has quit [Quit: EatsDungeonBats] 00:01:34 -!- rast- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:01:58 -!- soundlust|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:03:06 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2938-g578dedd (34) 00:04:23 -!- Keanan1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:10:54 -!- Keanan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:56 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: hrrgh] 00:14:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:17:54 hey 00:17:59 so I made a patch 00:18:01 but mantis is down 00:18:04 is there someone here I can give it to? 00:18:08 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-2938-g578dedd (34) 00:18:58 You can just paste it here, and hope that someone notices :) 00:19:09 Then try again if no-one does, or put it to Mantis when it does come back 00:19:39 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4070358/0001-Refactored-random_near_space-fixed-bugs.patch 00:19:50 are you someone 00:20:18 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20:28 I guess I could !tell a dev 00:20:48 who is the best dev 00:21:20 Probably better not, unless there it's of particular interest to someone 00:21:33 I guess it isn't exactly critical 00:21:42 it's been sitting in more-or-less this shape for 6 years 00:21:46 it's so bad though 00:21:49 Hehe 00:22:15 * Grunt makes something for his own amusement: http://sprunge.us/YgPQ 00:22:24 * Grunt goes to sleep. 00:23:19 what on earth is a d:17 00:23:21 or a d:20 00:23:47 !tell MarvinPA Canceling a curse scroll (jewellery in my case) seems to destroy the scroll. 00:23:48 Medar: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 00:24:23 had you already IDed it beforehand? 00:24:44 scrolls id on read now 00:24:46 also yes 00:24:57 oh hey 00:24:58 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:25:13 ! is important i guess 00:25:14 they id on read but does cancelling a newly-ided scroll still destroy it? 00:25:22 the scroll code gave me a headache when i read it 00:25:26 that was the old behavior for newly-read-id'd scrolls 00:25:52 oh right, it should yes 00:25:52 also: did you two see my very exciting patch 00:26:15 but I did have it IDed indeed 00:26:29 not that you should be able to run to them not ided anymore 00:26:48 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 00:27:36 can you not upgrade saves 00:27:39 or am i missing something 00:27:53 hmm? 00:28:29 well let's assume i found a scroll in some 0.14-a0-327 game and did not read it yet 00:28:38 ok, you are right 00:29:05 then it would act the same way as if you found it in a fresh game and had it id'd by ash 00:29:15 anyway as MarvinPA said this is just a case of forgetting a negation apparently 00:29:41 that is, cancelling it would use up the scroll and not cancelling it would not use up the scroll, yes 00:30:06 gotta start an ash game now for infinite curse scroll exploit 00:31:03 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2939-ge0b1554: Fix inverted logic for curse armour/jewellery scrolls (Medar) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0b155482b74 00:31:30 hurry wheals 00:31:42 guess I'll rebuild CLAN again :) 00:31:44 MarvinPA: Thanks! 00:32:08 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4070358/0001-Refactored-random_near_space-fixed-bugs.patch resending before I go to bed 00:32:32 PleasingFungus: d:20 is something an 8 on d:8 gives you a monster from, by the way 00:33:13 also a 9 on d:15 i suppose 00:33:58 ahh 00:34:04 I haven't looked at the monster gen code 00:34:17 ??8[$ 00:34:17 8[3/3]: !lg wpd 1 map=minivault_25_ag -tv 00:34:20 or a v while wielding rod of shadows with 20 evo 00:34:23 ??8[2 00:34:23 8[2/3]: Is also a marker for extremely out of depth ([depth+2]*2 depth!) monsters in vaults; both traditional and valued by most devs. Good results: d:4 wolf spiders, d:5 centaur warriors, d:6 fire crabs, d:9 sphinxes, d:10 fire giants, d:11 liches. 00:34:57 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-2939-ge0b1554 (34) 00:35:03 that sounds kind of dangerous 00:35:18 !td 00:35:34 hmm, forgot the command 00:35:36 .td 00:35:37 6. irum, XL9 DrMo, T:4590 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 00:36:15 rip 00:36:20 .td 00:36:22 5. Dredmor, XL7 MiFi, T:3687 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 00:37:01 .td 00:37:02 4. Bruce, XL6 MfIE, T:2323 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 00:37:07 ? 00:37:17 !cmd .td 00:37:17 Command: .td => !lg * ((tiles || !@hugeterm)) map=minmay_three_doors ntv=0 -tv:<0.5:x3 00:37:56 .ty 00:38:22 .your welcome 00:44:00 -!- Nstar|2 is now known as Xoai 00:45:10 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:45:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:48:05 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 00:52:48 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:03:28 More random bug reports, since Mantis is down: "You begin to regenerate." when reaching XL 12 with VS. Seems wrong it's just regen II -> regen III AFAIK 01:04:53 that's the message for going from regen 2 to 3 on any species, i'm pretty sure 01:05:15 It's still pretty weird? 01:05:18 i guess it is meant to contrast with "you begin to heal more quickly" for the previous levels but yeah it could probably be reworded 01:05:28 Ah, I see. 01:14:25 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:16:45 -!- EatsDungeonBats has quit [Quit: EatsDungeonBats] 01:18:08 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Evoke to aim the lamp at a square, creating one to three friendly fire elementals (depending on your Evocations) that each produce a flame cloud trail. 04:27:12 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:27:57 -!- nyfair has quit [Quit: love fuck no fuck, no fuck roll egg, have many ppl wanna fuck.] 04:29:32 -!- ac13 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:35:18 03Keskitalo02 07* 0.14-a0-2943-g087542d: Remove lamp of fire from an abyss vault useless loot. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=087542d4c1bb 04:35:18 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:36:39 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:39:11 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:43:37 -!- CrawlDL has quit [Client Quit] 04:48:12 -!- radinms_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:48:26 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:48:29 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:48:47 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:25 -!- aiguu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:57:05 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 05:16:53 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:45:54 -!- CampinSam` has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:55:14 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:55:25 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:59:40 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:50 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:01:55 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:02:00 -!- rast- is now known as rast 06:18:53 on the bright side, I'm on sick leave until next monday 06:19:01 should help me get things done faster 06:19:19 once I feel a bit better, that is 06:25:57 Get well soon! 06:30:32 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:30:49 -!- DrKe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:36:13 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:41:22 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 06:54:31 <|amethyst> Medar: should I consider 2e42f34 a security fix? 06:54:53 <|amethyst> Napkin: indeed, soundness! 06:55:06 <|amethyst> (how's that for a literal translation? :) 06:55:48 <|amethyst> Medar: oh, it's all Crawl-side, so I guess no need to restart or anything 06:56:53 -!- Adventuro has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:57:13 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:57:25 * bhaak tosses Napkin a potion of healing 06:57:32 yammyamm! 06:58:20 I have moved mysqld and apache already 06:58:44 and crawl.develz.org ttl should be 15m 06:59:56 i could change dns to make most of the crawl web services work 07:00:15 but things like knowledge bots won't until i move /home 07:03:33 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:03:33 -!- Yuof_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:04:02 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04:05 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:04:32 done 07:10:54 -!- Pacra___ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:18:13 of course... new php, new warnings 07:18:36 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 07:20:03 -!- Pacra___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:20:53 -!- Pacra___ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:26:13 ok, one down 07:27:14 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:28:04 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:29:38 -!- Sgun has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:29:55 i sure hope the statistics bots handled the 403 and 404 error messages properly 07:29:55 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:45 <|amethyst> I think the scoring bot should have done so 07:33:30 <|amethyst> especially since the errors came quickly instead of taking forever to time out 07:34:40 <|amethyst> single-threaded networking code :/ 07:34:58 <|amethyst> s/single-threaded/serial/ 07:40:43 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:41:58 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:42:36 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:45:41 weepon (L20 FeMo) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 712: Exit exit_wizlab[157] didn't get generated. (WizLab) 07:45:45 weepon (L20 FeMo) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 712: Exit exit_wizlab[157] didn't get generated. (WizLab) 07:46:00 <|amethyst> !crashlog weepon 07:46:00 2. weepon, XL20 FeMo, T:126009 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/weepon/crash-weepon-20140303-134543.txt 07:46:18 |amethyst: Blocking networking is shocking 07:46:22 Wait, did I write that code? :P 07:46:28 Must have been someone else 07:47:09 <|amethyst> greensnark: probably the stats stuff needs to be rewritten. I haven't looked at it, but imports take forever 07:47:36 -!- G-Flex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:48:26 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:33 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:48:44 <|amethyst> The initial load of a million lines took nearly six days 07:48:48 |amethyst: enjoying the snow? 07:48:50 Oh 07:49:03 Yeah that sounds a little slow :) 07:49:15 <|amethyst> Yeah, classes are cancelled today 07:49:41 <|amethyst> Second time this semester, which doesn't happen most years 07:49:49 <|amethyst> Fortunately my classes are on T/R 07:50:25 <|amethyst> But I'm having to reschedule my meeting with my TAs to review and edit the midterm exam 07:50:31 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 07:50:34 -!- kilobyte has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:50:56 |amethyst: same thing happened to me twice this semester... for extreme cold 07:51:03 <|amethyst> greensnark: looks like right now it's taking about 9 minutes per 3000 lines 07:51:11 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 07:51:16 |amethyst: Wow 07:51:19 -!- kilobyte has joined ##crawl-dev 07:51:34 I remember it doing lots of inefficient things with the db 07:51:38 Is it MySQL? 07:52:10 <|amethyst> Yes 07:52:33 9 minutes for 3k still seems extreme 07:52:46 So I was trying to make burn attacks with chaos weapons tick Dithmenos off... I found how to mark it as disapproved but it doesn't actually cause piety loss on a burn attack. Any ideas? 07:53:00 -!- Pacra___ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:53:22 <|amethyst> I haven't benchmarked it, but my guess is that it's the time spent updating the indices 07:53:32 <|amethyst> oh, it looks like each line gets its own transaction 07:53:41 <|amethyst> that probably doesn't help 07:53:56 The only other one that can displease gods is draining, but draining seems to be handled differently than most other brands 07:57:50 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:58:38 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:58:39 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:59:09 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:59:56 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 08:01:51 Well not the only other one but the only one that is based on the actual act of draining rather than having the draining brand, which is why it works with chaos. 08:01:52 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 08:01:52 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:01:59 -!- rast- is now known as rast 08:05:23 -!- asdfe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:05:32 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:06:28 so, greensnark, did i break something? 08:07:12 CDO was up for me, but only for a minute. 08:07:15 -!- eith|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:07:33 yes, took it down for copying homes and dgl stuff first 08:07:38 too many 403 & 404 08:07:39 ok 08:10:49 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 08:10:53 rsyncing dgl dir now.. that'll take long 08:14:36 -!- MaxFrosty has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:19:10 does it go through the complete history of games? 08:19:19 yes 08:19:29 * dpeg wishes he hadn't lost so many games 08:19:41 apart from ttyrecs (which were being saved to the new server already) it copies everyting 08:20:50 don't want to start apache yet and have the stats bot get a half score file or something like that 08:23:19 !lg dpeg !won 08:23:20 1941. dpeg the Stinger (L1 OpVM), slain by a giant gecko on D:1 on 2014-03-01 20:58:13, with 6 points after 346 turns and 0:01:41. 08:23:31 i bet you're not even top 100 08:25:50 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:32 -!- cr0ne has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:27:34 <|amethyst> !lg * !won s=name 08:27:42 2977042 games for * (!won): 104838x Sebi, 21882x Meow, 18323x syban, 12369x TGW, 11422x heteroy, 11351x dscm, 10429x KiloByte, 9954x adamzap, 9065x Xiberia, 8577x Elynae, 8516x Neil, 8328x soul, 8024x Ivo, 7801x Fieros, 7689x LogicNinja, 7675x firemonkey, 7661x Tenaya, 7561x phyphor, 7343x 4thArraOfDagon, 7328x pigah, 6836x Thrall, 6626x Eronarn, 6592x Nexos, 6362x qtip, 6340x BirdoPrey, 6221x Ves... 08:27:55 <|amethyst> ooh 08:27:56 oh, people are losing a lot 08:27:58 those slackers 08:28:04 <|amethyst> I'm only 61 games away from top 10 08:29:08 well, the first several were start scumming, right 08:29:19 <|amethyst> Sebi is at least 08:29:20 sure 08:29:22 <|amethyst> I don't know about the others 08:29:29 <|amethyst> !lg @devteam !boring s=name x=sum(dur) 08:29:30 43851 games for @devteam (!boring): 9115x KiloByte [126d+14:26:15], 7817x neil [56d+4:40:37], 3162x sorear [100d+19:36:46], 2570x MarvinPA [97d+10:57:31], 2463x wheals [33d+19:21:26], 2079x rob [108d+22:29:49], 1526x dpeg [50d+23:46:27], 1341x SamB [13d+4:50:09], 1336x bh [24d+16:38:26], 1272x SGrunt [38d+20:50:31], 1165x bookofjude [25d+10:41:28], 995x rax [40d+15:32:06], 923x gammafunk [46d+9:31... 08:29:44 <|amethyst> !lg @devteam !boring s=name x=sum(dur) o=-sum(dur) 08:29:45 43851 games for @devteam (!boring): 3x frogbotherer [3:19:54], 11x jpeg [14:05:12], 5x DracoOmega [22:56:59], 42x Enne [23:14:38], 2x galehar [1d+11:04:21], 45x edlothiol [3d+3:22:36], 21x felirx [3d+10:31:38], 155x Zaba [3d+11:13:15], 133x haranp [7d+14:35:01], 128x evktalo [8d+15:58:59], 84x Keskitalo [8d+17:34:10], 1341x SamB [13d+4:50:09], 407x mumra [13d+22:14:57], 260x Sage [16d+7:41:38], 36... 08:29:51 <|amethyst> !lg @devteam !boring s=name x=sum(dur) o=sum(dur) 08:29:51 43851 games for @devteam (!boring): 9115x KiloByte [126d+14:26:15], 2079x rob [108d+22:29:49], 3162x sorear [100d+19:36:46], 2570x MarvinPA [97d+10:57:31], 618x Napkin [59d+23:57:22], 423x elliptic [59d+12:58:55], 877x doy [57d+8:00:24], 7817x neil [56d+4:40:37], 819x erisdiscordia [55d+23:45:46], 1526x dpeg [50d+23:46:27], 395x Medar [49d+0:19:57], 923x gammafunk [46d+9:31:02], 510x greensnark [4... 08:30:23 <|amethyst> (doesn't count elliptic's alts etc) 08:30:38 is @devteam always up to date? :) 08:30:49 <|amethyst> I updated it for the newbies 08:30:51 <|amethyst> !nick devteam 08:30:51 Mapping devteam => kilobyte pointless dpeg enne evktalo keskitalo bookofjude haranp rax rob sorear zaba felirx doy itsmu greensnark MarvinPA evilmike sgrunt neil edlothiol jpeg erisdiscordia galehar elliptic ontoclasm bh frogbotherer napkin samb dracoomega mumra medar hangedman sage wheals gammafunk 08:30:56 cool 08:31:19 such a long list, it's amazing 08:31:39 Design goal for 2020: more than 50% of Crawlers should be (ex)devs 08:32:01 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:32:22 <|amethyst> dpeg: I don't know, couldn't we accomplish that by making the game so bad no one else wants to play it? :) 08:32:36 that is a valid option! 08:32:47 s/so bad/so hard/ 08:33:24 <|amethyst> Welcome to the Dungeon! The blast of hellfire explodes! You die... 08:34:07 |amethyst: you remember the stories about the good old times when you could start in a room with a dragon. And back in the day, Real Men would not whine all day about "unfair RNG" but fire up a new game. 08:35:19 Old OOD was awesome 08:35:24 yes 08:35:24 I started on D:1 near a centaur once 08:35:30 And successfully escaped to D:2!! 08:35:33 Where I died to a worm 08:35:34 <3 08:35:39 I once had my first enemy be a D:1 ogre 08:35:46 I killed it. 08:35:47 we have sacrificed all this to the false god of streakiness 08:35:50 <|amethyst> dpeg: I think ais523 managed to find a nethack seed that, if you have autopickup enabled, will kill you before your first turn 08:36:00 <|amethyst> http://tasvideos.org/3080S.html 08:36:06 |amethyst: sounds like good clean fun to me 08:36:10 what, no message for dying before getting a turn? 08:36:13 damnit devs 08:36:27 I'm reading Steinbeck's Tortilla Flat, where there's a character who promises to light an expensive candle to god if his sick dog gets well 08:36:35 And the dog gets well so he starts saving up 08:36:40 Anyways, after that DrIE splat, I honestly feel that Glaciate probably would be better off as a mono-Ice spell 08:36:43 Despite the fact that the dog is run over by a truck the next day 08:36:56 You are reading good stuff. 08:37:08 <3 Steinbeck 08:37:18 I avoided Steinbeck for 30 years because I thought he wrote "classics" 08:37:24 But he is pretty damn good :) 08:37:27 |amethyst: that's easy, you just need a artifact weapon generated on the stairs that will blast you. there already have been reports of such incidents when usenet was still going strong 08:37:44 the fact that you have to be close to what you want to kill really really sucks 08:37:47 bhaak: in the 15th century??? 08:38:04 <|amethyst> bhaak: did you help ais523 with that one? :) 08:38:27 dpeg: no, when stone tablets where the new shit! 08:38:27 <|amethyst> bhaak: didn't you work with him on some speedruns at some point or am I thinking of someone else? 08:38:42 |amethyst: someone else, i don't touch MSDOS even if my life depended on it 08:38:47 <|amethyst> heh 08:38:52 Fun fact: bhaak's life did depend on it 08:38:53 And in general the spell feels much weaker than Ice Storm, mostly because of that range factor 08:39:19 ? 08:39:20 <|amethyst> greensnark: and now he's a cyborg, but at least he's not running that crap? 08:39:39 well, if something really bad happened to bhaak, he could always hire as a CRawl dev 08:39:58 |amethyst: Exactly, he's running VMS instead 08:40:19 Only VMS can power his tentacles 08:41:24 bhaak does not deny this, therefore it is true 08:41:58 I don't know if I still can reliably program after a head injury but I'm confident I can still help out with the overall design. 08:42:04 * dpeg wonders what tentacle cyborg offspring looks like 08:42:14 it can't be so hard to scream "nerf this!" and "nerf that!" 08:42:22 uh 08:42:47 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:42:58 the sad truth is that many things got buffed 08:43:12 it's not even clear anymore whether 0.14 will be a net nerf ... sad times 08:43:20 I feel like my glaciate comments got ignored 08:43:34 who coded GLaciate? 08:43:44 I think Grunt 08:43:52 I only have played on the Dith branch on CSZO 08:43:56 cannot comment on glaciate 08:44:02 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:44:17 (and my Dith comments get ignored, too, if that's any consolation to you) 08:44:21 k 08:44:34 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:25 <|amethyst> dpeg: one thing I should point out is that I haven't kept halftone branch up-to-date with subsequent changes to dith 08:46:32 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 08:47:07 |amethyst: yes, I was mainly going for the spotting xp. 08:47:17 like how the smith god branch still has Dj in it? 08:47:28 And I think my c-r-d comments make still sense (I also played trunk Dith, of course.) 08:47:36 <|amethyst> yeah 08:47:59 <|amethyst> as you said, you didn't use conjurations, so the shadow mimic changes weren't so relevant to your game 08:48:22 -!- SkaryMonk1 is now known as SkaryMonk 08:48:25 oh, this was more me relaying a complaint made by others (which I happened to read a few times) 08:49:10 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:49:22 -!- rast- is now known as rast 08:50:28 I think people wanted the shadow mimic to be equally useful for conjurations, melee, ranged. I am not even sure whether that's a reasonable assumption (for example, it is alright if D would have appeal to Conjurers on his own). I liked how the melee shadow attack would sometimes distract enemy, giving me opportunity stabs. 08:51:52 -!- Lightli has quit [Quit: college] 08:52:49 -!- SeianVerian has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:54:14 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:52 -!- broilor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:55:18 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:56:01 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:56:53 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 09:00:25 -!- rast- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:02:08 -!- Matejii has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:04:34 -!- Amnesiac|2 has quit [Client Quit] 09:04:34 -!- Amnesiac|3 has quit [Client Quit] 09:06:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:06:13 -!- Amnesiac|2 has quit [Client Quit] 09:06:27 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:51 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:07:44 -!- Keanan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:11:47 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:20:33 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:27:55 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: No route to host] 09:29:13 -!- Xoai has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:29:49 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:31:29 -!- Moredread has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:35:36 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:35:38 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:37:50 * SamB thinks about adding Sequell to the list of people whose messages should not trigger his highlights ... 09:38:30 Considering that Sequell will not tell you something you already didn't know, that's a good idea. 09:52:04 -!- qoon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52:23 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:00:06 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:08:30 Hey where should I put a patch since CDO is still down? 10:09:30 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:11:59 just wait for some hours 10:12:15 is it coming up that soon, then? 10:13:03 even if it took two more days, better not to introduce a temporary patch station, I'd think 10:13:24 <|amethyst> could link it here 10:13:39 yes, and add to Mantis if it didn't get picked up here 10:13:39 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4070358/0001-Refactored-random_near_space-fixed-bugs.patch here is a thing I did last night 10:14:40 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:15 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I see that you changed a see_cell_no_trans in random_space_weighted to see_cell 10:19:29 yes 10:19:51 I'm trying to remember what my reasoning was 10:20:28 oh yeah. that was the behavior that the comment on the function indicated 10:20:51 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:21:13 <|amethyst> hm, and it changed from checking whether target could see the square to whether moved can see it 10:21:59 <|amethyst> but that's inside an LOS iterator over moved, so if moved couldn't see the square it wouldn't be iterated over there 10:22:15 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:22:22 there were a lot of weird redundant checks 10:22:56 <|amethyst> I think that one isn't redundant; if the monster is supposed to blink close to an enemy, it shouldn't end up on the other side of glass 10:23:21 ah 10:23:31 <|amethyst> that was about checking the destination against the blink's target, not against the blinker 10:23:44 <|amethyst> if I'm reading correctly 10:23:55 <|amethyst> which I guess would mean one more parameter to valid_blink_destination 10:24:20 well, it clearly doesn't have enough params as is 10:24:24 <|amethyst> heh 10:24:24 hm. 10:25:12 <|amethyst> (the check you do have isn't redundant, though, since random_space_weighted isn't the only thing that calls it) 10:25:22 yeah 10:25:24 <|amethyst> so I guess it makes sense to check both 10:25:44 it was originally based on the code in random_near_space; I merged it with random_space_weighted as a secondary thing 10:25:53 <|amethyst> I worry that using see_cell without _no_trans there might let things blink across glass 10:26:01 the code would be a 10:26:03 *lot* 10:26:03 <|amethyst> which I think still happens in some situations? 10:26:04 simpler 10:26:10 if we didn't let monsters cheat when out of LOS 10:26:35 something like 1/3-1/2 of the current code is "can we let monsters cheat, okay, here is the cheating blink code" 10:26:45 <|amethyst> hm 10:26:54 still not as bad as the old version though 10:27:25 <|amethyst> I didn't even realise monster could cheat through glass while you're not looking 10:27:28 <|amethyst> monsters 10:27:33 <|amethyst> that seems wrong 10:27:34 welllll 10:27:53 look at the comment starting on line 163 of the patch 10:28:08 that's the behavior in the current version of the game (without the patch) 10:28:24 it's batshit 10:29:23 yeah if you want I can make a version that removes the monster-cheating behavior and returns the see_cell_no_trans target check for random_space_weighted 10:30:30 <|amethyst> I don't know, maybe someone has an idea why that stuff is there in the first place? 10:30:40 the commit that added this is from six years ago 10:31:00 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4958b84b497f 10:31:20 looks like this was his last commit 10:31:23 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:34:23 -!- Jine_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:34:29 <|amethyst> no, just the last one under subversion 10:34:34 <|amethyst> %git e0d592b0 10:34:34 07Matthew_Cline02 * 0.6.0-a1-1385-ge0d592b: New monster props "speech_func" and "shout_func" 10(4 years, 3 months ago, 4 files, 92+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0d592b0a5e0 10:34:41 ahh 10:34:43 <|amethyst> %git 4958b84b497 10:34:43 07Matthew_Cline02 * 0.4-a0-8-g4958b84: Introduces three new wall types, translucent versions of the normal rock wall, stone wall and permanent rock wall. These are for use in vaults, and are never randomly generated. Magically translucent versions of the normal wall types are used, rather than glass, so we don't have to figure out how glass would react to things like digging and Shatter, but can re-use the code for the normal wall types. 10(6 years ago, 24 files, 524+ 66-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4958b84b497f 10:34:55 ok 10:36:15 Okay I got the patch up: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvs0eupr0j9qa7s/0001-Make-fiery-attacks-with-a-chaos-weapon-offend-Dithme.patch 10:38:37 looking around more, it looks like restrict_los is always true, and forbid_dangerous/forbid_sanctuary are always false 10:39:13 ...correction, forbid_sanctuary is used by the displacement code 10:39:29 <|amethyst> hm 10:39:40 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:40:24 <|amethyst> I guess it's unsurprising that there are some dead cases 10:40:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:41:15 yep 10:42:04 I'll clean that and the other stuff up 10:42:07 gotta go to work now, though 10:43:18 <|amethyst> AreBrandon: I'm going to change that if (attacker->is_player()) into attacker->god_conduct 10:44:08 <|amethyst> AreBrandon: (it amounts to the same thing, since the monster version does nothing) 10:45:12 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:45:37 someday, you will be able to trick dith-worshipping monsters into incurring god wrath 10:45:39 some day !!! 10:47:53 <|amethyst> AreBrandon: it probably does change the numbers slightly, since I think now it won't penalise you for using a flaming weapon if you do zero damage and the brand therefore doesn't proc 10:48:58 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:50:00 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:50:18 <|amethyst> Also, am I reading this correctly that, the less damage you do with a flaming (or elec) weapon, the louder it is? 10:50:43 Unless it's been fixed, brand doesn't have any impact on noise 10:51:09 (There's a noise_factor which is supposed to influence melee noise, but it gets clobbered later) 10:51:28 it would sort of make sense if elec made noise for example 10:51:32 <|amethyst> ohh 10:51:34 (I put a mantis issue in about it ages ago) 10:51:36 <|amethyst> right 10:52:00 <|amethyst> I remember that now 10:53:59 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:55:54 03AreBrandon02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2944-g1822766: Make fiery attacks with a chaos weapon offend Dithmenos 10(56 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=18227662ff0e 10:58:47 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:00:23 * Grunt grunts. 11:00:33 (... as Grunt often does.) 11:01:17 ...since more people are here now, I'm probably about to push this: http://sprunge.us/jXZe 11:02:36 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:02:45 okay 11:02:58 * Grunt pushes dpeg. 11:03:14 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4070358/0001-Refactored-random_near_space-fixed-bugs.patch I lied, here's the new version of the patch 11:03:16 * dpeg is just a peg to be pushed. 11:03:32 (Better pushed than hammered...) 11:03:34 now I'm actually going to work. 11:03:43 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0a1/20140221030202]] 11:03:56 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:07:18 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:08:46 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:09:14 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:09:54 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:17:36 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:18:08 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2945-g620cfe9: Zin warns the player of shapeshifters. 10(12 hours ago, 2 files, 49+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=620cfe93cabe 11:19:05 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:19:34 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:26:17 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:26:53 -!- gnum has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:27:59 -!- qoon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:30:38 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2944-g1822766 (34) 11:31:24 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:31:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:34:01 -!- aiguu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:35:00 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:38:23 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:39:44 Spotted just now: "a manual of Dodging (unknown)" 11:39:57 !tell Basil a manual of Dodging (unknown) 11:39:57 Grunt: OK, I'll let basil know. 11:40:10 things wouls be so much simpler if manuals just weren't books.... 11:40:21 wheals: get to work! :b 11:40:29 You see here a TV miniseries about Dodging. 11:41:17 booklets 11:41:25 explanatory pamphlets 11:41:45 "You turn to the propaganda edition of Dodging." 11:43:59 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:45:22 !tell |amethyst Thanks! 11:45:22 AreBrandon: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 11:46:24 speaking of changing things, what do people think of making trees block los like mangroves? 11:46:37 i have a patch here http://pastie.org/pastes/8841723/text 11:48:19 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:48:26 wheals: sounds good to me... transparent walls can be good, but are aggravating when overused (and unlike glass, trees are placed for other reasons than 11:48:38 "I want a transparent wall here") 11:50:20 I dunno, being able to see through a single line of trees is what makes those areas different to me, I like them being transparent (or semitransparent) it might get tiresome when overused, but I find it presents different challenges, particularly for the stealthy. 11:50:43 single line is unchanged? 11:50:45 wheals? 11:51:06 no, they block LOS always in the branch 11:51:09 ah 11:51:38 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 11:51:39 Current behavior is single depth is transparent depth of two blocks LOS. 11:51:40 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:11 (Which I find interesting, personally) 11:53:14 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:54:39 hm 11:54:42 it is the old tension between convenience (automovement, quick play) and attention (manual movement, taking care, slow play). 11:56:06 trees that only let you see the size/shape of something on the other side 11:56:13 'a huge quadruped' 11:57:09 Indeed, and I know I fall on the 'attention' side of things in general. I would prefer if convenience was the reason for the change, that it be made along those lines (i.e. seeing things through trees didn't stop rest/automovement) if there was no path from them to you. 11:57:38 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57:45 sometimes you want it to, though, if it's near a corner 11:58:01 * Grunt cleans up his other patch from last night: http://sprunge.us/BTOI 11:58:15 a few vaults are designed around both seeing things through trees and stopping exploration when doing so 11:58:35 yes, those can possibly use transparent rock 11:58:36 Yeah, like the fedhas vault with the mushrooms 11:58:53 !vault hangedman_tree_tricks 11:58:53 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/food.des;hb=HEAD#l222 11:58:57 or just a transparent gap, i guess 11:59:26 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:00:14 Perhaps just introduce a new "thicker" non-see through tree that can be used as the default generation, and keep the old-style see through tree for things that use it presently? 12:00:27 Eronarn: this change would be cool but it wouldn't help either camp 12:00:45 Keanan1: don't want more terrain types, I am afraid 12:01:05 Keanan1: that would be the status quo 12:01:19 well, slightly changed, i guess 12:02:23 Is your objection to trees when they are generated with the current behavior not in mind? (I'm just not actually clear what your objection to the current behavior is...) 12:02:25 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:03:39 mostly that they're annoying, and there's little gain from them that other transparent terrain doesn't accomplish 12:04:14 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:13 wheals: yes, and that comes from the fact that glass is used when we want "a wall you can see through" (mostly in vaults) whereas trees are placed when we want "a wall that is of plant type", getting the transparency as a generally unasked side effect. 12:05:44 Hm, well, flammable transparent walls are different than either transparent walls, or flammable non-transparent walls. 12:06:15 Wheals, is 'annoyance' for you 'stops automovement and rest'? 12:06:19 I am not sure that forest fires are a very good from a balance pov either 12:06:20 Or something else 12:06:27 basically that 12:06:31 being flammable means that the spell to remove one (conjure flame) is lower level than non-flammable (LRD) 12:06:38 you see guys you cannot interact with, and have to move manually 12:07:11 +1 to removing forest fires 12:07:15 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:07:25 Hm, I guess I'm in the minority for liking forest fires :) 12:09:24 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:09:28 I guess I can certainly see that "things that mess around with the dungeon, and particularly also do damage" can be a hard thing to work around design wise, particularly when you're just looking for some flavor. 12:09:58 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:50 ...well, I might as well move this along; it gives me an excuse to do something else overdue as well. 12:10:55 -!- ac13 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:11:38 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:11:56 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:09 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2946-gf98009f: Nudge monster (molten) gargoyles; give them spells and maces. 10(26 minutes ago, 5 files, 52+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f98009f105f0 12:12:09 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2947-gc9fa8fe: Tone down the opposition further in grunt_vaults_entry_fortified. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9fa8fe190b0 12:12:48 -!- horsik has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:12:49 molten gargoyle (059) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 16-38 | AC/EV: 14/7 | Dam: 1204(fire:5-9), 8, 8 | 11non-living, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(40), 04fire+++, 10elec, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 171 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 12:12:49 %??molten_gargoyle 12:12:49 nonethousand: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 12:13:03 (Those don't update *that* quickly! >_>) 12:13:40 Grunt: well the patch has all the info I need :P I was just checking to see what we're working with 12:14:00 looks like a good move 12:14:02 I might want to poke at them further. 12:14:30 where do they mostly show up? 12:14:44 Molten gargoyles? 12:14:59 yeah...I see that you adjusted that too, woops 12:15:23 * gammafunk pokes grunt with a spear of orc slaying! 12:15:32 * Grunt seems unharmed. 12:16:24 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:16:55 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:17:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:18:58 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 12:19:34 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:19:39 |amethyst: I'm not actually even aware of any situation where that commit would matter (2e42f34). 12:22:51 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:22:56 -!- soundlust|2 is now known as soundlust 12:23:42 -!- qoon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:25:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:28:12 -!- Igxfl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:28:25 -!- pelotron_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:29:38 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:34:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:39:25 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2948-g7514cc0: Update a couple of vaults for new species and minor issues. 10(10 minutes ago, 6 files, 26+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7514cc06760e 12:39:25 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:39:25 * Grunt pokes Chei with a stone arrow. 12:40:30 !tell roctavian Other things that could use new/improved tiles: (molten) gargoyles that can show weapons; formicid (venom mages); possibly vine stalkers (only a dummy monster, but appears in a couple of places now). 12:40:30 Grunt: OK, I'll let roctavian know. 12:42:23 !messages 12:42:23 No messages for TZer0. 12:42:23 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:42:32 -!- tsn has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:42:40 !tell ontoclasm Additions to the monster tile list: (molten) gargoyles that can show weapons; formicid (venom mages); possibly vine stalkers (only a dummy monster, but appears in a couple of places now). I also poked roctavian about this. 12:42:40 Grunt: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 12:43:21 !tell gammafunk I think I failed to catch the glass... 12:43:21 TZer0: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 12:43:38 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:48:01 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:52:58 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:57:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:58:50 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:50 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 12:58:50 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:58 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02:17 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Client Quit] 13:03:39 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:07:03 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:45 -!- TeshiAlair has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:08:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:08:27 -!- Wolfechu_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:10:05 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:10:35 TZer0: it was a "pint of vermouth," so perhaps it was better that you didn't drink that... 13:10:35 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:11:32 !learn add gammafunk todo: fix "a pint of vermouth" 13:11:32 gammafunk[6/6]: todo: fix "a pint of vermouth" 13:15:37 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:16:17 slow healing 2 blocks healing when you see monsters through glass 13:17:33 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:37 -!- aiguu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:20:13 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:20:49 Vidiiot (L18 TrWz) ERROR in 'dungeon.cc' at line 5691: unknown shop type (Depths:5) 13:23:01 wheals: true, but still a minor effect, eh? 13:23:19 my "retreat to elevator" zot:5 strat is ruined 13:23:47 Grunt: wait, does turning things into blocks of ice remove their corpses 13:27:56 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:30:52 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 13:32:18 -!- RepHenryClay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38:24 The original version did. 13:38:39 (I don't know about the current one.) 13:39:48 -!- RepHenryClay has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:43:19 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:48 -!- TeshiAlair has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:50:59 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:54:59 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:55:50 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 13:56:21 btw, morgues are still being copied... @CDO 13:56:58 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:56:58 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:57:34 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:42 * Grunt appears! 13:59:42 Napkin: can you estimate the percentage done already? 13:59:48 wheals: it's like saltifying things, so yes. 14:00:00 !crashlog * 14:00:01 6841. Vidiiot, XL18 TrWz, T:30941 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Vidiiot/crash-Vidiiot-20140303-192047.txt 14:01:28 good map 14:01:45 nah, unfortunately, not 14:01:59 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:02:00 -!- soundlust|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:03:10 -!- ystael_ is now known as ystael 14:04:23 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:07:09 Napkin: awesome, you're sitting on a gold mine of data :) 14:07:24 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:07:45 (gold for the gold god!) 14:08:51 !send Napkin extremely fast data connections for transferring things over 14:08:51 Sending extremely fast data connections for transferring things over to Napkin. 14:09:42 hehe :) it's using 1gbit already - problem are the many, many tiny morgue files 14:09:46 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:33 (Would it be Crawl otherwise? <_<) 14:11:30 the mount point already had ~230gb of ttyrecs, and only 41gb of morgues are being moved - but because of the "~" i can't say exactly what the progress is 14:11:43 speaking of which, could somebody increase the size of those a bit perhaps? 14:11:53 i feel the default dump_message_count is a bit too small 14:12:54 it would be nice to have maps of each floor in morgues! 14:13:13 -!- duralumin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:13:58 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:14:38 !messages 14:14:38 No messages for TZer0. 14:14:57 Napkin: Out of curiosity how are you moving them? I assume piping through tar possibly with some fast compression would be fastest (if using ssh). 14:15:07 !tell gammafunk I guess.. 14:15:08 TZer0: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 14:15:12 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:15:25 rsync, because of ACLs 14:15:59 Ok. 14:16:27 %git c9fa8fe1 14:16:27 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2947-gc9fa8fe: Tone down the opposition further in grunt_vaults_entry_fortified. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9fa8fe190b0 14:16:27 gammafunk: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:16:32 yeah, next time i'll give tar a try and backup acls separately, Medar 14:16:40 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:16:43 Grunt: Was that because of me ;_; 14:16:48 -!- soundlust|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:17:00 looking at it and still hoping it'll be done in a minute ;) 14:17:17 Hehe 14:17:41 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:18:21 -!- ZRN has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:18:47 wheals: congrats, sadly the "curse of the High Elf" that was put on me is much, much worse... 14:18:58 -!- asdfad has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:19:36 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:09 !lg * recent !boring --IE species!=Dr / won s=species o=% 14:20:11 123/15359 games for * (recent !boring --IE species!=Dr): 1/19x Formicid [5.26%], 1/20x Deep Dwarf [5.00%], 6/133x Felid [4.51%], 1/33x Hill Orc [3.03%], 2/72x Djinni [2.78%], 1/39x Troll [2.56%], 3/122x Ogre [2.46%], 8/333x Human [2.40%], 6/254x Gargoyle [2.36%], 1/43x Centaur [2.33%], 2/87x Halfling [2.30%], 5/290x Demigod [1.72%], 1/62x Vine Stalker [1.61%], 11/685x Naga [1.61%], 1/78x Lava Orc ... 14:20:40 no love for draconians 14:21:00 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 14:21:01 Medar: all the different colors mess everything up 14:21:06 use crace 14:21:07 you can use crace 14:21:12 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:21:32 ArcaneRedneck (L16 HONe) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster trapdoor spider failed to pathfind to (39,17) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 14:21:34 !lg * recent !boring --IE species!=Dr / won s=crace o=% ?:N>500 14:21:35 No games for * (recent !boring --IE species!=Dr). 14:21:50 Not sure how to do the N thing 14:21:58 What does crace stand for anyway? 14:22:05 canonical? 14:22:07 probably 14:22:14 !lg * recent !boring ie s=crace ?:N>500 / won 14:22:15 Broken query near '/ won' 14:22:17 ArcaneRedneck (L16 HONe) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster plant failed to pathfind to (39,17) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 14:22:23 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:23 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 14:22:23 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:25 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:22:26 !lg * recent !boring ie ?:N>500 / won s=crace o=% 14:22:27 Broken query near '/ won s=crace o=%' 14:22:29 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:22:32 !crashlog ArcaneRedback zotdef 14:22:32 No milestones for ArcaneRedback (zotdef crash). 14:22:38 !crashlog ArcaneRedback 14:22:38 No milestones for ArcaneRedback (crash). 14:22:51 It takes a second 14:23:12 I think I'm not getting the right query for that crash, though 14:23:20 !crashlog ArcaneRedback zotdef 14:23:21 No milestones for ArcaneRedback (zotdef crash). 14:23:22 !crashlog * zotdef 14:23:23 355. ArcaneRedneck, XL16 HONe, T:3854 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/ArcaneRedneck/crash-ArcaneRedneck-20140303-202214.txt 14:23:30 huh, ok 14:23:31 oh durr 14:23:38 redneck != redback 14:23:46 doh 14:23:48 fr: rednecks in spider 14:23:50 (and I c&p'd yours instead) 14:24:16 geekosaur: the blind leading the blind... 14:24:42 ArcaneRedneck (L16 HONe) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster ice statue failed to pathfind to (39,17) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 14:24:55 ArcaneRedneck (L16 HONe) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster ice statue failed to pathfind to (39,17) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 14:26:07 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:35 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:32:43 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:40:24 -!- broilor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:24 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:42:12 -!- TeshiAlair1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:43:20 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 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yes 15:13:57 i'm asking grunt :p 15:14:50 ...hm, this turned out decent: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5494313/gargoyle.png 15:14:57 and no i'm not going to "compensate for the nerf" or however he put it last time 15:14:57 ...this one less so: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5494313/molten_gargoyle.png 15:15:46 but does that image convey their GDRness properly 15:16:09 right i'll also remove that and accidentally forget compensating for it 15:17:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:18:19 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:35 ...funnily enough the molten tile looks better in game. 15:18:38 Hi Bloaxor. 15:18:58 oh hi 15:19:01 i like it better, it just doesn't look like a gargoyle 15:19:30 03wheals02 07* 0.14-a0-2949-g1a3bbca: Remove ignises. 10(3 minutes ago, 4 files, 3+ 27-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a3bbcab46e5 15:20:13 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:20:31 Bloaxor, I'm just in the process of figuring out a lot of other enemies that need tiles <_< 15:21:08 ...plain and molten gargoyles get weapons now, so they need a tile that can show them; we also need something that isn't temporary for formicids (and FoVMs) and possibly vine stalkers. 15:21:35 well unfortunately we can't just edit the wargoyles a bit 15:21:40 since they look kind of overkill 15:21:46 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:22:02 Start with a regular gargoyle, make a molten gargoyle out of it, and make a war gargoyle out of some combination of the two >_> 15:23:23 -!- exant has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:26:11 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:28:38 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:30:22 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:34:44 03wheals02 07* 0.14-a0-2950-gbe29d66: Purge some references to Forest. 10(2 days ago, 15 files, 34+ 40-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=be29d668379c 15:40:10 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: 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quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:19:38 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:21:11 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2950-gbe29d66 (34) 16:24:23 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:56 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:32:38 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:22 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:09 CURSE YOU GRUNT 16:36:17 ?????? 16:36:18 I don't have a page labeled ???? in my learndb. 16:36:43 Glaciate resulted in me killing myself thanks to hubris 16:37:09 (and it's Glaciates fault because if it was still Ice storm I would have just blown up the problem from afar and been done with it) 16:37:23 sounds good 16:37:24 More seriously, I feel it could use another buff somehow 16:39:12 -!- hephaestus_rg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:39:33 The thing with level 9 spells is that they basically annihilate anything in their area of effect for massive damage 16:39:47 except summon dragon, but that looks like it'll soon get removed and replaced with a level 9 spell that sucks less 16:39:59 hold on, I'm writing this all down... 16:40:11 right, so how about we fix that thing 16:40:26 but then certain folks come in and ask for buffs to it 16:40:38 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:40:41 horrible idea: Make it mono-Ice 16:46:09 -!- Sandman25 has quit [Client Quit] 16:47:01 -!- hephaestus_rg has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:50:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:52:48 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:54:51 -!- Chris7 has quit [Quit: Don't push the red button!] 16:55:12 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57:21 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:57:56 my idea was clearly so bad it killed ##crawl-dev 16:58:29 -!- hephaestus_rg_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:00:26 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:03:44 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: 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0.14-a0-2950-gbe29d66 (34) 17:25:33 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 17:27:56 !send MarvinPA spam 17:27:57 Sending spam to MarvinPA. 17:27:59 (thanks for fixing that) 17:28:24 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:29:07 ok, apache started 17:29:24 wow! 17:29:25 Yay! 17:30:12 -!- whig has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:33:03 knowledge bot shouldn't work yet 17:33:15 anything else not working, please !tell me :) 17:33:25 !tell Napkin 123 17:33:25 Napkin: OK, I'll let napkin know. 17:34:41 -!- BobBarker has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:36:03 -!- soundlust|2 is now known as soundlust 17:37:36 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 17:40:18 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:40:25 ignorance bot doesn't work 17:44:57 !tell Napkin i'm seeing some error messages on the wordpress page, but only when logged in as an admin: "Warning: Creating default object from empty value in /var/www/crawl.develz.org/htdocs/wordpress/wp-includes/user.php on line 660" 17:44:57 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let napkin know. 17:45:13 Oh right, blog post time. 17:45:20 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:45:21 tenofswords: now you can go back to vault review :p 17:46:14 03wheals02 07* 0.14-a0-2952-ged793cf: Give the ring of Shadows an umbra. 10(24 minutes ago, 5 files, 28+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed793cfbc947 17:46:14 where, MarvinPA? 17:46:14 Napkin: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:46:29 link me, i don't see it as admin 17:46:37 oh, wordpress 17:46:38 1s 17:47:25 "now time to give a random monster the ring in a vault and call it a dith vault" 17:48:08 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:48:27 Yermak (06i) | Spd: 16 | HD: 12 | HP: 27-45 | AC/EV: 2/20 | Dam: 21 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(112) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 897 | Sp: sleep, invisibility, strip resistance | Sz: little | Int: normal. 17:48:27 %??spriggan enchanter name:Yermak n_rpl god:dithmenos ; choko unrand:ring_of_shadows 17:49:03 what a bizarre way to spell "Parsley" 17:52:29 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:47 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:45 Napkin: one message right at the top of https://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/ and then the same thing again at the bottom of the page 17:54:00 done, thanks, next :) 17:55:24 Napkin quaffs a potion. Napkin is no longer sick. 17:55:54 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:56:18 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:21 A bit longer before CDO ssh is back online? 17:57:12 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:57:53 %git :/Geryon 17:57:54 07gammafunk02 * 0.14-a0-2885-ge2f36c2: Rework the Horn of Geryon as an xp-charged evocable. 10(4 days ago, 14 files, 70+ 28-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2f36c2bfc74 17:58:21 -!- maarek has quit [Quit: maarek] 17:59:30 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:11 yes, gammafunk, but i think tomorrow 18:00:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:00:35 good to know, thanks for getting it moved and back online! 18:00:38 ??is_cdo_down 18:00:38 is cdo down[1/2]: Yes, a server move is underway. It will be back Real Soon Now (probably by the end of the 1st week in March). 18:01:53 !learn edit is_cdo_down s|.*|Server is moved and the website restored, but ssh/telnet will take another day or so.| 18:01:53 Use: !learn edit is_cdo_down[NUM] s/// 18:02:00 !learn edit is_cdo_down[1] s|.*|Server is moved and the website restored, but ssh/telnet will take another day or so.| 18:02:01 is cdo down[1/2]: Server is moved and the website restored, but ssh/telnet will take another day or so. 18:05:57 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 18:06:09 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:07:57 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 18:08:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:08:53 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:23 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:19:29 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 18:21:28 -!- icantfindaname has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:23:49 -!- hephaestus_rg has quit [Quit: hephaestus_rg] 18:26:52 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:48 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:28:49 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:29:18 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 18:33:58 -!- Kasofa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:35:31 -!- Raycaster has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:36:15 -!- TrollMan has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:37:18 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:37:54 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0.1/20140212131424]] 18:42:56 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:45:22 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:28 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50:17 -!- Keanan1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:07:49 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11:36 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:13:51 -!- Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14:56 -!- Amy has quit [Client Quit] 19:15:25 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:16:45 -!- sstrickl has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 19:20:36 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:22:45 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:22:56 -!- Pacra___ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:03 -!- Crehl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23:14 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:30 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:07 -!- sstrickl has quit [Changing host] 19:31:14 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:32:25 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 19:43:41 hrm 19:44:01 would it be appropriate to have something in-game displaying that your demonspawn is monstrous, in case you've forgotten 19:44:02 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:44:06 it seems like the kind of thing that would make sense 19:44:09 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:44:12 but I don't know where it would go, so I don't know 19:44:36 A? 19:44:47 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:44:57 well, making it a mutation sounds excessive 19:45:05 no I mean 19:45:06 that has other implications and demonspawn get enough of them 19:45:06 is it in your notes? 19:45:15 isn't 'monstrous' just a set of mutations? 19:45:15 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:45:19 actually, it's not in your notes at all 19:45:22 not in mine anyway 19:45:29 -!- syllogism has quit [] 19:45:33 and I know this one is monstrous 19:45:40 PleasingFungus: yes but it's not like you get them all at once 19:45:40 i thought your first mut is attributed to "monstrous demonic ancestry" 19:45:43 it is 19:45:44 &dump swinepaste 19:45:45 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/swinepaste/swinepaste.txt 19:45:46 but not in the notes 19:45:57 846 | D:1 | Gained mutation: You have sharp toenails. [demonic 19:45:57 | ancestry] 19:46:40 showing up in the notes would be enough I guess 19:46:44 !lm swinepaste monstrous 19:46:45 35. [2014-03-03 19:01:18] swinepaste the Skirmisher (L2 DsAK of Lugonu) is a monstrous demonspawn! (D:1) 19:46:54 yeah, it makes a milestone 19:47:25 but that's not something you can check in-game 19:47:29 a note sounds like the best solution 19:47:39 -!- Arrhythmia has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:48 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2953-g009d8da: roctavian's crystal guardian and guardian golem tiles (#8097). 10(8 minutes ago, 4 files, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=009d8da55df1 19:47:58 oh, this should be nice 19:48:08 The guardian golem amuses me greatly. 19:48:09 Arrhythmia: greetings OatmealLover! 19:48:20 hi gamma 19:48:22 i just came in here to say 19:48:30 that someone made a swastika vault 19:48:31 Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhy 19:48:37 http://i.imgur.com/HIwciO8.png 19:48:39 was it chei 19:48:41 -!- Keanan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:47 that's not a swastika 19:48:58 in the center 19:48:59 spiral detected... 19:49:00 there are forms of swastika that look like that 19:49:01 it's swastikish 19:49:07 who on the dev team likes spirals.... 19:49:07 you can see it much better on the minimap 19:49:07 but not the nazi kind 19:49:15 the swastika is pretty old, there are spiral-ish variations 19:49:26 in other words, who cares 19:49:45 also it definitely rotates in the same direction as the nazi swastika 19:49:58 Arrhythmia: this is all going in your bug report? 19:50:06 mantis is down mang 19:50:09 nope 19:50:10 back up 19:50:11 Arrhythmia: who cares 19:50:14 oh, glad to hear 19:50:24 i care 19:50:33 he cares about Nazis! 19:50:46 1) it's not close enough to the nazi swastika for it to be immediately obvious or a problem, 2) the swastika has been used by a ton of cultures, 3) that particular variation isn't the one the nazis used at all 19:50:55 anyway outside of tiles i would have never thought it was a swastika 19:51:13 wheals tiles makes up a very large portion of our player base! 19:51:17 I might think of it, but definitely wouldn't think "nazis" 19:51:30 !lg . s=tiles 19:51:30 1223 games for gammafunk: 1038x false, 185x true 19:51:36 I don't see it... 19:51:42 yeah, but you're a big old weirdo 19:51:45 the reason swastikas tend to accidentally sort of show up in places like this is because it's a rather simple design 19:51:52 which is why it's been used by people for so long 19:52:06 !lg @devteam s=tiles 19:52:07 48733 games for @devteam: 47269x false, 1464x true 19:52:08 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:52:19 yeah, okay, sure, you nazi 19:52:24 !lg @devteam won s=tiles 19:52:24 it's got four (well, usually four) rays extending from a central point and swirling in some direction, with rotational symmetry 19:52:25 863 games for @devteam (won): 793x false, 70x true 19:52:29 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:52:29 hah 19:52:31 it's a fairly basic sort of symbol 19:52:34 well that uh, really doesn't look like a swastika at all 19:52:35 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:52:52 yeah, that's just not a bad offender at all 19:52:52 I wonder what vault it is 19:52:59 ?/swastika 19:52:59 Matching entries (1): vault[3]: [Mu_] the most crucial part of making a large map is ensuring that no section of it either looks like a swastika or a smiley face 19:53:01 it fits the broader definition of "swastika" than the one anyone would be offended by 19:53:13 add to that "or a penis" 19:53:28 nah, there are lots of penis-like vaults 19:53:29 gammafunk: don't tell chei that 19:53:38 his are intentionally so! 19:53:39 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:53:41 there's the dildo N:5 ending, that one's fun 19:53:48 rotationally symmetric symbols like that are super common 19:53:50 what's wrong with a smiley face 19:53:58 yeah, sure, if you're a nazi 19:54:02 it implies players are to have fun, which we discourage 19:54:08 That is grunt_twist_and_shout, and if you think it looks anything remotely close to a swastika you are intentionally looking to be offended. 19:54:12 ahahahah 19:54:15 called it 19:54:19 bring back ice storm 19:54:33 heil grunt 19:54:35 Grunt: I do but only in the broader sense :P 19:54:45 %git :/nazi 19:54:45 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-968-g2d28b49: Give a nazi medal to /dev/null. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d28b4919d01 19:54:45 * Lightli has no taste 19:54:51 I'm guilty as well... 19:55:02 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Client Quit] 19:55:28 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:28 harsh 19:55:47 grunt merged that vault initially....coincidence? 19:56:20 I don't really see the iron cross as being heavily associated with nazis in particular 19:56:31 at any rate, this is all a non-issue so whatever 19:56:36 guys let's add 19:56:42 two tesselated lightning bolts 19:56:42 as a vault 19:56:49 that's not what tesselation is 19:56:57 ??tesselation 19:56:58 go all for all on the nazi iconography 19:56:58 I don't have a page labeled tesselation in my learndb. 19:56:59 unless you're not going for the SS logo 19:57:08 whoa whoa whoa 19:57:11 who said SS? 19:57:15 lots of cultures have used lightnign bolts! 19:57:15 dang learndb doesn't answer all my questions 19:57:24 unicode has runes actually so you could get the actual logo in there 19:57:55 at any rate, nazi swastika has one corner on each arm 19:58:00 these "arms" have two 19:58:21 wait maybe not that one 19:58:25 !vault roderic_Aztec_sauvastika 19:58:26 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_features.des;hb=HEAD#l1121 19:58:31 so scrolling down, there are... 19:58:33 Arrhythmia: you could be making useful bug reports. If boobhat actually existed and were merged in trunk, he'd be ashamed of his creator right now... 19:58:53 wheals: more importantly, they don't meet at a central point 19:58:55 only twelve, really 19:58:58 there's negative space in the middle 19:59:10 also the nazi one stands on a point 19:59:14 (I don't care in the slightestest about all this) 19:59:18 i'll finish boobhat up some day 19:59:22 pretty much all of them meet at a point in the middle 19:59:30 can't think of any counterexamples I've seen 19:59:38 my grandchildren will be delighted, I'm sure! 19:59:43 the number of arms varies, and direction of rotation, and manner of rotation 19:59:51 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:54 perhaps my great, great grandchildren, living in Space 20:00:04 good cross-section of varying forms of spiralling-outwards cross 20:00:07 haha, the ss fucked up their stupid runes, just like the nazis fucked up everything 20:00:08 i'd say that when not in the minimap, it 20:00:14 ᛋᛋ wow, so lightning 20:00:18 's fairly clear that it's twisty 20:00:19 dang 20:00:25 I like bali the most? 20:00:25 (and shouty) 20:00:30 PleasingFungus: the runes in "SS" were stylized ones, I think they were like, occult ones based on the anglo-saxon ones 20:00:33 but the minimap is pretty important! 20:00:37 like I said 20:00:39 the nazis were idiots 20:00:42 well I mean 20:00:44 i think deliberatly overlooking it is a silly thing to do 20:00:56 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2954-g0334010: Spell icon tiles for the new summoning spells. 10(59 seconds ago, 5 files, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0334010afa32 20:00:57 stylizing symbols is not what made the nazis idiots 20:01:03 that's all I'm saying 20:01:04 it was everything else 20:01:08 that's a legitimate enough thing to do 20:01:13 none of the rest is though :P 20:01:21 Arrhythmia: I'm not entirely convinced you aren't just trying to mess with us 20:01:30 how rude! 20:01:47 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:49 speaking as senior development liaison of ##crawl-dev I am ordering you to hang your head in shame 20:01:57 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9POAmmiVXcc/TaTAOt176nI/AAAAAAAAACM/Ix-65J-0XSY/s1600/wolf%2Bw63.gif 20:02:02 G-Flex: do your business cards say that? 20:02:09 I swear this tesselated better that this 20:02:10 no but they should 20:02:31 I ought to print out a bunch of phony business cards so that I have one for any occasion 20:04:54 -!- Arrhythmia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:05:13 tenofswords: Clearly Crawl needs mecha-Hitler in it 20:05:30 clearly 20:05:36 oh, since a lot of people are around right now 20:05:49 deliberately overlooking what 20:06:02 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2955-g8063b24: Use the Shadow Creature icon for Weave Shadows. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8063b2470d8a 20:06:03 I was talking to amethyst this morning about reworking random_near_space() 20:06:26 because it's insane, and I need it to be less insane for other things I'm working on 20:06:46 I made a patch https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4070358/0001-Refactored-random_near_space-fixed-bugs.patch but it changes the old behavior somewhat 20:06:59 specifically, it makes it so that monsters can no longer blink through walls when the player isn't looking 20:07:07 they can do that? 20:07:17 yeh 20:07:28 it's 20:07:31 batty 20:07:47 ??monsters 20:07:48 monsters[1/2]: Dirty cheaters. 20:08:01 they can also blink through translucent walls even if the player is looking 20:08:06 but only if 20:08:24 there are at least as many translucent walls between them and the player 20:08:24 I like to think about the scenarios where players are dirty cheaters in the context of monsters 20:08:25 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:32 as between their blink origin & destination 20:08:35 "curse you for being able to regenerate more than 1 hp a turn" 20:08:42 30/30 defenses 20:08:47 this is explained in detail in a 10-line comment 20:08:59 in monster hands everybody would hate 30/30 defenses forever 20:09:17 I wonder, what is the monster with the highest ac+ev 20:09:29 Dispater (06&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 450 | AC/EV: 40/3 | Dam: 50 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 9455 | Sp: sum.greater demon, crystal spear (3d35), iron shot (3d29), hellfire (3d20) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 20:09:29 %??dispater 20:09:37 but the player can always "cheat" 20:09:38 Ereshkigal (16&) | Spd: 14 | HD: 18 | HP: 350 | AC/EV: 10/30 | Dam: 4013(drain) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 12959 | Sp: b.cold (3d27), silence, sum.greater demon, s.torment, paralyse, 04esc:major healing | Sz: Large | Int: high. 20:09:38 %??ereshkigal 20:09:48 Asmodeus (13&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 17 | HP: 450 | AC/EV: 30/7 | Dam: 50 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: b.fire (3d26), hellfire (3d20), fire summon | Sz: Large | Int: high. 20:09:48 %??asmodeus 20:09:48 the player has a brain. as yet, nobody's made crawl self-aware 20:09:52 meh 20:10:00 curse skull (11z) | Spd: 10 (move: 70%) | HD: 13 | HP: 55 | AC/EV: 25/3 | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold++, 10elec++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1257 | Sp: sum.undead, s.torment | Sz: tiny | Int: high. 20:10:00 %??curse_skull 20:10:06 orb of fire is pretty well balanced for the context 20:10:09 curse toe (08z) | Spd: 10 (move: 140%) | HD: 14 | HP: 100 | AC/EV: 25/1 | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 10elec++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 5621 | Sp: s.torment, sum.mushrooms | Sz: tiny | Int: high. 20:10:09 %??curse_toe 20:10:15 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 9248 | Sp: b.fire (3d40), malmutate, fireball (3d43) | Sz: little | Int: normal. 20:10:15 %??orb of fire 20:10:23 %git HEAD^{/[Nn]erf.*skull} 20:10:25 Could not find commit HEAD^{/[Nn]erf.*skull} (git returned 128) 20:10:26 anyway the code to allow monster to cheat triples the length of the relevant function 20:10:33 %git HEAD^{/[Nn]erf.*[Ss]kull} 20:10:35 Could not find commit HEAD^{/[Nn]erf.*[Ss]kull} (git returned 128) 20:10:52 also there are other bugs; random_near_space() forbids destinations which are dangerous (e.g. lava or deep water), but only if they're dangerous for the player 20:10:57 even if it's a monster doing the blinking 20:11:10 which requires a ridiculous retry loop in the displacement code 20:11:34 ?vuln only lasted 3 turns on monsters 20:11:38 "damn cheaters" 20:12:03 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:07 monster ctrolled blink is basically random, "damn cheaters" 20:12:29 Monsters still have tele self 20:12:48 players can wear more than one piece of jewellery 20:12:51 Lamia (06N) | Spd: 8 (act: 80%) | HD: 18 | HP: 200 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 40, 1203(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, 04eats corpses, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 4706 | Sp: destruction orb (9d16), mesmerise, haste, poison arrow (3d25), 04esc:teleport self | Sz: Large | Int: high. 20:12:51 %?lamia 20:13:31 players don't usually double-zap iood, "damn cheaters" 20:14:00 Except with Dith 20:14:03 rip shadow 20:14:06 didn't they fix that? 20:14:14 They removed it, yes. 20:14:56 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:15:00 does someone want to add twitch-plays-crawl mode to webtiles? :) 20:15:37 I stopped paying attention to that after silphco 20:15:56 I'm going to assume the master ball was thrown away or used to catch Tentacool :v 20:23:05 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:23:42 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0a1/20140221030202]] 20:23:57 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:58 _The dust glows dark white! It was a scroll of random uselessness. 20:24:00 does this count as a bug 20:24:34 dark white 20:24:37 ... 20:24:45 good chocolate flavour 20:25:04 nonexistent chocolate flavor 20:25:14 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:25:47 magical mythical chocolate 20:25:48 fr 20:26:44 ??anachronisms 20:26:44 I don't have a page labeled anachronisms in my learndb. 20:27:07 anybody who knows about crawl knows about the chocolate unrands! 20:27:25 you can use the new smithing god to temper chocolate 20:27:36 (does anyone here know enough about chocolate to get that joek) 20:27:40 s/joek/joke 20:27:54 possibly but what the heck is a smithing god 20:28:05 experimental 20:28:05 it's part of some branch I think 20:28:06 it's a swamp layouy 20:28:13 oh that makes sense 20:28:15 it seems pretty half-baked 20:28:23 it's actually just pcrawl 20:28:26 or maybe bcrawl 20:28:31 ??bcrawl 20:28:31 I don't have a page labeled bcrawl in my learndb. Did you mean: crawl, fcrawl, hcrawl, kcrawl, lcrawl, mcrawl, ncrawl, pcrawl, qcrawl, tcrawl, wcrawl, xcrawl, ycrawl, zcrawl. 20:28:34 ??pcrawl 20:28:34 pcrawl[1/3]: fix default ^x behavior, look at traveling on magic mapped floors, inscribe dig wands zapped by unseen monsters with {tried}, toggle to view excluded squares in-game, lua function to detect sprint map, fix unique names in terse item inscriptions, fix experience potion bug on mac 20:28:35 ucrawl 20:29:07 experience potion bug on mac??? 20:29:38 þcrawl 20:29:45 :þ 20:30:21 G-Flex: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6661 20:30:27 (Yey, CDO) 20:30:53 how the hell does that happen 20:31:04 Compiler bug 20:31:15 AFAIK, haven't been following it that much 20:31:32 oh, also i guess mantis isn't happy 20:31:44 Didn't even notice. 20:32:09 also wow that bug has a lot of duplicates 20:32:18 oh hey, mantis is back up! 20:32:22 heh 20:32:31 finally, I can submit my Critical Patch 20:32:33 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:33:26 PleasingFungus: Oh, I loaded it up yesterday, but didn't have energy to actually go throught it. However: There were white space errors, plus some style issues (there is style guide in docs directory somewhere). 20:33:37 -!- maarek has quit [Quit: maarek] 20:33:39 !tell Napkin this mantis issue has a bunch of scary-looking errors on it in the "relationship" section: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6661 "SYSTEM WARNING: Creating default object from empty value" 20:33:39 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let napkin know. 20:33:54 I will look for the style guide 20:34:02 How does one identify a whitespace error? 20:34:18 related to 0007541 assigned brendan Spells do not cost MP [Delete] 20:34:24 good bug 20:34:39 related to 0005257 resolved mumra Felid respawn while leveling gives infinite levels. seems good too 20:35:18 PleasingFungus: Depends what tools you are using. It was trailing spaces I think. 20:35:33 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2956-geff2d49: A couple more rod-related icon tweaks. 10(16 minutes ago, 9 files, 5+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eff2d49755ad 20:35:33 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2957-gea69ec1: Enums for missing tiles for monster spells/abilities. 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 53+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea69ec1fc769 20:35:33 git diff should highlight them by default, I think. 20:35:40 I'm using 'msysgit' 20:35:41 you can run util/checkwhite 20:36:33 Napkin: I don't appear to be getting mantis e-mails. 20:36:37 PleasingFungus: Oh also, really minor thing is that commit message should be wrapped to 72 columns. 20:36:47 haha, 72? 20:36:54 git log adds a tab 20:37:02 ok 20:37:15 generally i think it's the same length as the comments in git commit? 20:37:30 !tell Napkin i can't find any other mantis issues with the same errors, not sure what it is about that one in particular. maybe something to do with the fact it has loads of related issues? 20:37:31 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let napkin know. 20:37:46 oh god, I ran util/checkwhite and it changed the line endings on every single file 20:37:52 wtf 20:37:54 oh 20:38:02 unix/windows line endings 20:38:17 Oh dear, guess you don't want to use that then :P 20:38:32 There's some git setting, autocrlf? 20:38:49 might want to look in /docs/develop/config.txt 20:39:14 file not found 20:39:16 Sure. Depending on the editor, it might be good to let git do the conversion though. 20:39:19 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:39:24 docs/develop/git/config.txt 20:39:25 oh, /git/config 20:39:27 yeah 20:39:36 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:40:27 * Grunt tries to figure out why "Paralyse" is listed as a rod spell... 20:40:40 fr 20:40:47 tenofswords: swarm! 20:41:01 okay, going through config now 20:41:31 ...apparently it's entirely my fault that it is <_< 20:42:32 Chaotic mirror rod 20:42:37 every coder's worst enemy: their past self 20:42:40 What's the worst that could happen 20:42:56 hmm 20:42:56 rearrange the rods 20:42:58 hasted antaeus 20:43:11 !lg * kaux=~inacc min=xl 20:43:12 12. ANDROIDp the Skirmisher (L2 DsFi), blasted by a kobold (rod of inaccuracy) on D:2 on 2013-09-16 05:28:31, with 92 points after 685 turns and 0:02:11. 20:43:23 !lg * kaux=~inacc min=xl -2 20:43:23 11/12. Tarragon the Practitioner (L3 HuHe of Elyvilon), blasted by a goblin (rod of inaccuracy) on D:2 on 2013-12-16 08:51:39, with 91 points after 1562 turns and 0:05:09. 20:43:44 is mantis back up? 20:43:51 yep 20:45:02 Who wants to close all the Dj bugs? 20:45:15 !bug 7141 20:45:16 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7141 20:45:17 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:46:48 that's a good bug 20:48:56 good appeal to google 20:49:37 should be added to lists of common fallacies 20:49:47 I think it is already 20:50:03 !killratio google 20:50:05 No battles for google. 20:50:58 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all!] 20:51:24 fr: player ghosts should list 'sees invisible' in their description 20:51:28 since they do 20:51:38 Medar: Why close the bugs? 20:52:00 They haven't been fixed yet 20:52:01 Lightli: Erm, because Dj is gone? 20:52:08 ...oh right 20:52:16 I guess removing it from the game counts as a fix 20:52:32 well, they're not problems anymore 20:52:35 close them with some other status than "done" of course 20:53:06 PleasingFungus: Pretty sure that's in Mantis somewhere, but if it isn't it should be. 20:53:14 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8019 20:53:34 ghost_demon stuff is scary 20:53:45 haha found it at the same time 20:54:26 also related to their MR being incorrectly displayed i think? https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7269 20:54:30 i'll do "no change required" 20:57:49 -!- Utis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:44 all that green 21:08:36 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:08:47 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:09:30 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:09:55 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:15:10 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:15:21 wheals: make certain to leave comments in each one in which you snark about how dj being removed makes the problem moot 21:21:10 okay, I think I have slain the whitespace/coding conventions dragon 21:22:43 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 21:22:46 -!- eb_ is now known as ebarrett 21:25:54 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8226 revised patch attached 21:29:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:39:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:43:05 -!- Keanan1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:43:37 did it leave a hide 21:45:58 -!- Bamboomancer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:49:10 -!- darkrage has quit [Client Quit] 21:53:36 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:54:07 -!- Keanan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:39 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:15 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:58:43 Uh... 21:58:44 ... 21:58:54 ??? 21:58:54 I don't have a page labeled ? in my learndb. Did you mean: !, #, *, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z, ~. 21:59:07 Well, there's a ring of plants overwriting some of the walls of a vault here. 21:59:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:59:31 I just saw that 21:59:32 a good selection oh it's the branches right 21:59:38 -!- tenofswords has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:00:12 -!- Pacra___ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:03:03 -!- Pacra has quit [Client Quit] 22:05:05 -!- Sticking has quit [] 22:10:09 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:44 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 22:12:16 ??rng 22:12:16 rng[1/12]: More properly a *pseudo*-random number generator. Unlike true random numbers, pseudo-random numbers are generated out of spite, in order to make you cry. 22:12:24 ??rng [2] 22:12:24 rng[2/12]: Xom is an avatar of the RNG. !rng dont choose xom you stupid rng dice rolling machine -> The RNG chooses: xom. 22:13:30 -!- Ayutzia is now known as ayutzia 22:13:31 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:48 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:42 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:27 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0.1/20140212131424]] 22:25:37 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:30:13 -!- ayutzia has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:31:43 cherufe what 22:31:43 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:31:48 !messages 22:31:48 (1/1) Grunt said (9h 49m 8s ago): Additions to the monster tile list: (molten) gargoyles that can show weapons; formicid (venom mages); possibly vine stalkers (only a dummy monster, but appears in a couple of places now). I also poked roctavian about this. 22:32:33 ontoclasm: I guess that's irrelevant now that mantis is back and I can post about it here :) 22:32:38 s/here/there/ 22:33:03 Bloax was making some noises about making gargoyle tiles, but I don't know if he's actually going to do so. 22:33:22 mm 22:33:26 yeah, i dunno 22:33:40 i've been busy this week since i'm giving tests on wednesday 22:33:50 %git :/herufe 22:33:54 07pubby02 {|amethyst} * 0.14-a0-2792-g25e739b: New experimental species: Cherufe 10(2 days ago, 14 files, 147+ 35-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=25e739b18733 22:34:10 I have no idea how to parse that experimental species idea 22:34:20 yeah what 22:34:37 Except that magma form is probably more balanced than dj 22:34:44 It's like Dj, but explicitly experimental 22:34:48 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherufe 22:34:52 apparently 22:36:06 In cryptozoology... 22:36:10 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:36:14 every great sentence begins with that 22:36:32 you know an article is good when they suggest you translate the spanish version if you want to know about it 22:37:11 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:11 most spanish wikipedia articles are better than their english equivalents, really 22:43:01 I dont know why so few people use the scottish wikipedia 22:44:02 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:44:31 they should really suggest that *editors* translate the Spanish article and include the resulting information in the English one ... 22:47:11 -!- gnum has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:48:58 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:49:48 -!- whig has quit [] 22:50:00 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:50:02 -!- Walker_Z is now known as WalkerBoh 22:50:36 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:24 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:07:59 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:11:30 -!- Basil has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:16:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:20:57 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 23:28:07 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29:25 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:33 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 23:45:13 -!- hephaestus_rg has quit [Quit: hephaestus_rg] 23:55:23 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:56:12 -!- thug_lessons is now known as lessens 23:57:54 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! 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