00:01:36 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2475-gac10382 (34) 00:02:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:04:05 %git :/dungeons 00:04:06 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-2143-gcd529e1: Don't spawn Trowel in plain and ornate wonders. 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd529e1bfb22 00:04:25 fwiw i found trowels in an ornate deck of wonders this game 00:04:32 it spawned a statue 00:05:55 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 00:06:02 also im not sure what happened to the deck weighting but wonders is rather huge right now 00:06:19 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-2475-gac10382 (34) 00:06:35 -!- ziquf has quit [Client Quit] 00:07:26 simmarine: all the junk that used to go towards dungeons goes to wonders now 00:07:30 yes 00:07:33 i noticed 00:07:36 its really silly 00:07:36 and stuff like books and misc items have high value 00:08:02 im not sure how crawl handles deck weighting but if wonders was cut in half somehow it would be much better 00:08:13 well said handling should be rewritten anyways 00:09:47 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2475-gac10382 (34) 00:17:17 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 00:17:44 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2475-gac10382 (34) 00:18:58 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:21:58 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:22:33 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:07 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:33 -!- vulsuck has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:30:31 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:32:28 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:37:12 -!- Neuromancer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:37:57 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:40:28 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2475-gac10382 00:41:02 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:46:20 n78291's patch looks neat 00:46:28 i definitely like replacing summon scorps in callings 00:49:22 -!- nonethousand has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:58:15 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:59:34 -!- tali713 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:00:23 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:05:05 -!- tali713 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:08:55 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 01:21:27 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: brb reboot] 01:27:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:29:36 -!- tali713 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:35:35 -!- tali713 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:42:13 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:51:17 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:54:26 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:59:39 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:04:18 -!- jeanjacques has quit 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-!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:50:56 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:55:40 -!- Bovinius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:00:56 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: night!] 07:03:20 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 07:11:36 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:16:24 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 07:28:53 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 07:41:22 !tell n78291 those spells look neat to me, am playing with them a bit locally. i'd sort of like to replace both scorps and call imp in callings somehow (it's sort of deliberate that minor magic's the only starting book with 7 spells), not sure that the spell levels would really work out for that though. 07:41:23 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let n78291 know. 07:42:07 i guess maybe ice beast could be replaced out since that's in another starting book, too 07:47:18 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:47:19 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 07:58:32 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:03:15 imps sound better to keep because they have ranged attacks 08:03:25 some of them anyway 08:05:48 yeah, also swapping out ice beast seems good since all the new spells are dual-school 08:06:05 with different schools, so otherwise there'd be too many different schools in the book 08:07:53 also summon forest looks pretty cool 08:07:58 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 08:08:23 possibly that one shouldn't be in a starting book 08:10:34 since it seems to be able to kill stone giants and stuff in a single cast 08:13:06 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:16:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:23:27 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:02 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:07 -!- gnum has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:36:58 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:38:29 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:46:41 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:51:31 -!- tsohg has quit 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quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:55:13 -!- OneEyedJack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:59:48 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 10:03:27 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:08:22 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:11:49 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:13:19 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:59 -!- myfreeweb has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 10:21:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:24:42 |amethyst: Has the kr server maintainer been notified regarding the javascript fix? 10:24:56 They're still running an older version 10:27:18 ??kr 10:27:18 I don't have a page labeled kr in my learndb. Did you mean: ar, ckr, cr, dr, er, fr, gr, jr, ke, mr, pr, rr, tr, wr. 10:27:21 ??ckr 10:27:21 ckr[1/1]: Unofficial crawl server (webtiles-only) located in Korea. http://kr.dobrazupa.org:8080/ 10:27:42 does anyone know the ckr server maintainer's nick? 10:28:13 %git :/linkify 10:28:26 07Medar02 * 0.14-a0-2474-g7d54a28: Fix a missing escape in chat linkify 10(14 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d54a282b99a 10:29:22 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:30:39 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:31:14 ITEM: any scroll ... SUBST: d = | 10:31:33 lemuel I know this vault header is a _mess_ but come on 10:31:35 heh 10:31:41 is d 1st item slot? 10:31:44 I always forget 10:32:00 correct, it goes d-k for first to eighth 10:32:07 hall_of_zot has some cute things 10:32:21 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:32:26 hall of zot makes me tear at my hair 10:33:01 SUBST: 8=8., 8=8., 5=5. 10:33:04 that's a nice one 10:33:47 I do wonder if he was perhaps going for obscene ascii art over readability 10:34:29 that is not nearly as good as it is with the context of KFEAT: 8 = any trap / w:20 floor 10:35:17 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:35:26 that makes 8=8., 8=8. more acceptable to you? 10:35:41 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:36:06 of course not, but it means that technically there could have been the intent to place on average 10 more and potentially 120 more random floor spawns inside the vault 10:37:48 I guess I'm not as good at reading vault authors' intentions through weird headers 10:37:56 I tend to clean up the weirdness after it's all done 10:38:02 headers are hard enough to read as it is 10:38:33 I think there was a brief period in 0.1 or whatever that actually placed those extra spawns, though it's been a while since I've checked 10:39:52 120 more random floor spawns in hall_of_zot sounds like a good idea 10:41:26 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:41:38 -!- randomizr is now known as RZX 10:41:47 only if the rest of the level is removed and the stairs from zot:4 to zot:5 are one-way until you pick up the orb 10:42:26 mmm 10:42:42 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:42:59 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:36 speaking of which, I want to see the hypothetical game that wins the lottery and has about 100 flayed ghosts placed in lemuel_river_lethe 10:46:28 or just 100 random floor traps placed in river_lethe 10:51:20 I keep meaning to figure out if we should have (a)liches spawn randomly in Zot (apart from the occasional statue they're the only thing that can turn up in hall_of_Zot that doesn't appear natively elsewhere in Zot). 10:52:34 Bloax: yo 10:52:47 checked out the secret meatsprint boss tile yet 10:52:49 ontoclasm: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 10:52:54 nope 10:52:58 !messages 10:52:58 (1/2) Medar said (19h 16m 31s ago): You forgot to add Drowned Soul entry to rltiles, I added it in 1408ae1 but you should check if it needs rim or something 10:52:59 !messages 10:53:00 (1/1) Bloax said (12h 59m 10s ago): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/666.png Meatsprint got a bit more unspeakable in terms of secret bosses. 10:53:03 Grunt: well, orb guardians 10:53:20 MarvinPA: those are kind of a special case IMO! 10:53:33 (Also you can get them on the orb run now.) 10:53:42 Medar: oops, i'm dumb 10:53:52 I think I'd prefer a. liches to stay out of the zot set in making zot:5 have more things distinct from the rest of zot 10:54:09 i think it's fine for them to be hall-only, yeah 10:54:39 more sprints pretending to use zot should remember to use a. liches though :P 10:57:43 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:59:08 !tell medar Oops. Thanks for fixing that for me! 10:59:08 ontoclasm: OK, I'll let medar know. 11:03:49 ??bots 11:03:49 bots[1/2]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Ruffell (RHF, #), Rotatell (CBRO, ^); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? and others) 11:04:05 There's no ckr but, I guess 11:04:09 s/but/bot/ 11:04:12 unknown monster: "meatlord" 11:04:12 %??meatlord 11:04:25 Failed to create test monster for the the meatlord 11:04:25 %??the meatlord 11:04:42 Failed to create test monster for the the meatlord 11:04:42 %??the meatlord 11:04:48 oops 11:04:48 @??the meatlord 11:04:48 Failed to create test monster for the the meatlord 11:04:48 nearly finishing up these edits, noticed a vampire mage floating over this river lethe 11:05:02 this seems to contradict lore, fr vampires can't cross water 11:05:10 but it's a *mage* 11:05:12 tenofswords: while you're looking at lethe you might check for any closets i missed 11:05:34 perhaps it drank so much blood that it's alive 11:05:36 i added some downhatches but i might have missed a couple 11:05:56 all closets are covered, don't worry 11:05:57 wow, ontoclasm is making a vault? 11:06:15 (do worry in that if you were part of why this header is so mess I will strangle you) 11:06:26 noooo 11:06:38 (i just edited lethe very slightly) 11:06:46 slippery slope! 11:06:51 well, i mean 11:06:59 !lg * kmap~~ontoclasm 11:07:00 38. chill the Severer (L17 LOFi), worshipper of Beogh, mangled by an ettin (a +0,+0 dire flail) on Vaults:4 (ontoclasm_vaults_gallery) on 2014-01-26 09:52:21, with 192793 points after 31628 turns and 5:37:18. 11:07:07 i've murdered 38 guys 11:07:15 Ah, so it's too late for you, after all 11:07:18 yes 11:07:35 !lg * kmap~~gammafunk 11:07:36 32. Thomus the Severer (L15 HOFi), worshipper of Beogh, slain by an ettin zombie (kmap: gammafunk_depths_entry_grave) on D:16 on 2014-02-07 20:28:13, with 68923 points after 34575 turns and 5:44:51. 11:07:38 hahah 11:07:47 !lg * kmap=~hangedman 11:07:47 2458. nht the Grappler (L9 LOTm), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, slain by an eight-headed hydra (kmap: hangedman_cross_veins) on D:8 on 2014-02-08 17:07:22, with 3592 points after 7396 turns and 0:23:26. 11:07:53 !lg * map~~gammafunk 11:07:54 154. relentless the Ducker (L2 FeMo), slain by a hobgoblin (a +0,+1 orcish club) on D:2 (gammafunk_temple_overflow_claw) on 2014-02-05 08:32:20, with 27 points after 305 turns and 0:01:49. 11:08:04 !lg * map=~hangedman 11:08:07 4011. pfcuttle the Crack Shot (L15 CeHu), worshipper of Okawaru, succumbed to a deep elf annihilator's poison arrow on D:17 (hangedman_crystal_crosses_colossus) on 2014-02-08 16:16:17, with 102665 points after 29430 turns and 1:43:28. 11:08:14 !lg * map~~ontoclasm 11:08:14 what's the difference between map and kmap? 11:08:14 94. qtip the Warrior (L15 MiFi), worshipper of Okawaru, slain by a lich on Vaults:3 (ontoclasm_vaults_fault) on 2014-01-28 01:07:02, with 91619 points after 17183 turns and 1:01:40. 11:08:26 map where the death occurred vs map where killer generated 11:08:29 map is "you died inside the vault", kmap is "you died to something the 11:08:30 kmap is latter 11:08:34 that 11:08:40 ah 11:09:33 by the way, I'm fine with V temple decorativ vaults, but if there's anywhere that needs vaults it's decorative vaults for pretty much everywhere besides V (and D and temple) 11:09:48 "just saying" 11:10:04 mmm 11:10:14 what branch needs them the most? 11:10:16 swamp? 11:11:28 I did have a project to make decorative vaults always appear on S:4 so I may be biased, but in terms of what's covered or not I'd say spider actually 11:12:31 -!- tsn has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:28:05 -!- not_detrius has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:28:57 +SUBST: D=+, d=|, E=x, F=x, G=x +NSUBST: e = 1:y / 1:* / *:% +NSUBST: f = 1:y / *:% +NSUBST: g = 1:y / *:% +KFEAT: y = > +KITEM: y = any / w:1 any good_item 11:29:01 * tenofswords strangles ontoclasm 11:29:15 hey, it was the only way i could think of to do that 11:29:21 sorry~~ 11:30:14 KITEM: e = any / any good_item w:4 KFEAT: 8e = > SUBST: D = +, EFG = x NSUBST: e = 1:e / 1:* / *:%, f = 1:e / *:%, g = 1:e / *:% 11:30:38 (I swear this looks a lot better than the previous when it's not one line) 11:30:44 xD 11:30:48 sorry 11:30:57 it is okay, this is my self-appointed duty 11:34:04 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.14-a0-2476-g7c07488: MEATLORD tile (Bloax) 10(10 minutes ago, 3 files, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c074881b79e 11:34:04 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.14-a0-2477-gab90ceb: Move tall tiles to the beginning of player.png 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 25+ 19-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab90ceb25b88 11:34:18 ontoclasm: well it's the unspeakable 11:34:19 but ok 11:34:28 hm? 11:34:36 the secret meatsprint boss 11:34:42 of mass murder 11:34:50 oh 11:35:03 sorry, i was confused 11:35:11 !send ontoclasm a potion of curing 11:35:11 Sending a potion of curing to ontoclasm. 11:35:29 it is surely going to be weird that meatsprint is all regular tiles and then... that, as the boss 11:35:47 well yeah, it should have a full set of tiles i guess 11:36:46 observer and greater mummy can probably get away with their current tiles but 11:38:05 well it's also not like people will see it very often 11:38:57 fr orb guardian baby tiles since nobody sees those often 11:41:09 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:41:23 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:41:44 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:20 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.14-a0-2478-g0955808: MEATLORD was actually THE UNSPEAKABLE 10(11 seconds ago, 4 files, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=095580861b96 11:42:22 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:27 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:40 ontoclasm: that mistake was unspeakably bad <_< 11:43:45 ~~ 11:43:47 -!- timbw has quit [Client Quit] 11:44:15 player.png is still crazy huge 11:45:18 clearly part of that is your fault due to things like plant variations and rotating vortexes and 11:45:42 and specific forms of simulacra and spectrals and 11:45:49 tiles is the root of all evil 11:46:08 and why in the world are there ugly thing and crab zombie tiles come on 11:46:13 pretty sure it's actually the beam code! 11:46:17 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:46:18 !learn add ontoclasm tiles is the root of all evil 11:46:18 ontoclasm[13/13]: tiles is the root of all evil 11:46:38 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2479-gf14a738: Tiles: show shields on vault guards and most related enemies (dck). 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f14a738534c7 11:46:50 mmmm 11:47:00 fr hornshields 11:47:36 what happens when they get the horn of Geryon?! 11:47:39 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:48:08 -!- Grujah has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:48:23 -!- Sage has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:18 Geryon (03&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 300 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Dam: 35(reach) | 05demonic, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(120), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 4427 | Sp: sentinel's mark | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 11:49:18 %??geryon spells:sentinel's_mark 11:49:25 fr: sentinels have a 1% chance to spawn with a saxophone 11:50:25 fr: worshipping xom makes alarm trap "blaring wails" change to random instruments 11:50:31 Not a monster spell: 'melee' 11:50:31 %??hell sentinel spells:hellfire;hellfire;sentinel's_mark;iron_shot;melee 11:50:34 what 11:50:50 Hell Sentinel (071) | Spd: 10 | HD: 19 | HP: 120-165 | AC/EV: 25/3 08(spiny 5) | Dam: 40, 25 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3263 | Sp: hellfire (3d20), sentinel's mark, iron shot (3d33) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 11:50:50 %??hell sentinel spells:hellfire;hellfire;sentinel's_mark;iron_shot 11:51:48 somewhere in my many drafts is a sprint that just flavourfully mashes branches together to make them all approximate some same level of difficulty 11:51:57 you can probably guess what I paired Vaults with 11:53:33 i really need to redraw elementals 11:53:55 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:55:02 (vague notion: give wizards some chance to come with a couple of random elementals) 11:55:19 no no no that's clearly an Elf thing! 11:55:45 plain wizards should just come with... uh 11:55:48 master elementalist (13@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 43-77 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, 07vault | Res: 06magic(80) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1191 | Sp: iron shot (3d28), sum.air elementals, sticky flame range (3d6), sum.water elementals, haste, 04esc:blink | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 11:55:48 %??master elementalist 11:55:57 "a felid" 11:56:07 ...that notion amuses me somehow <3 11:57:15 could have elementals spawn in packs somewhere 11:57:45 felid (02h) | Spd: 10 (move: 80%) | HD: 5 | HP: 11-24 | AC/EV: 2/18 | Dam: 10 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(40) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 105 | Sz: little | Int: high. 11:57:45 %??felid 11:57:47 'h' 11:57:51 biggest crime of the century 11:58:15 fire elementals should just be lava spawns, spriggan air mages come with air elementals, water elementals are already around places, 11:58:17 Bad item name: 'name felid' 11:58:17 %??plant ; name felid 11:58:21 how do I do that 11:58:25 er 11:58:27 felid (03P) | Spd: 070 | HD: 10 | HP: 40-70 | AC/EV: 10/0 | 03plant | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 0 | Sz: small | Int: plant. 11:58:27 %??plant name:felid n_rpl 11:58:28 fungus (15f) | Spd: 070 | HD: 8 | HP: 28-59 | AC/EV: 1/0 | 03plant | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 0 | Sz: tiny | Int: plant. 11:58:28 %??fungus 11:58:28 ??? 11:58:29 I don't have a page labeled ? in my learndb. 11:58:42 felid (15f) | Spd: 070 | HD: 8 | HP: 28-59 | AC/EV: 1/0 | 03plant | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 0 | Sz: tiny | Int: plant. 11:58:42 %??fungus name:felid n_rpl 11:58:46 there we go 11:58:53 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:58:57 -!- MakMorn has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:59:01 felid (03F) | Spd: 15 (swim: 60%) | HD: 4 | HP: 13-31 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 9 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(16), 12drown | XP: 90 | Sz: Medium | Int: reptile. 11:59:01 %??giant frog name:felid 11:59:11 also acceptable 11:59:19 cold-blooded even 12:00:06 Also, frog with reptile-intelligence? How interesting 12:00:18 amphibian intelligence 12:00:25 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.14-a0-2480-g55717bb: Fix some rims 10(10 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=55717bb55b3f 12:00:29 well, reptile int is a rename of insect int 12:00:34 and both are below animal int 12:00:35 identical to reptile except it counts as animal int while in water 12:00:37 and ??????? 12:00:48 reptiles are secretly robots 12:01:02 hrm, insects and frogs aren't animals? 12:01:07 ??crawl_biology 12:01:07 I don't have a page labeled crawl_biology in my learndb. 12:02:06 nothing makes sense, frogs aren't animals, up is down, players can turn into wisps, black is white 12:02:23 1learn add devs 12:04:27 i should do that thing somebody suggested where different branches have different statue sets 12:05:22 are portals branches 12:05:52 maybe??? 12:05:52 see {yes} 12:06:17 %git {/portal.*branche} 12:06:17 Could not find commit {/portal.*branche} (git returned 128) 12:06:26 ??yes 12:06:26 yes ~ des[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:maps/ 12:06:27 apparently not 12:06:59 1learn add yes no 12:07:02 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 12:08:12 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:46 !messages 12:08:47 No messages for TZer0. 12:08:55 i didn't realize until just now that nessie's tile is wearing lipstick 12:10:20 ??maybe 12:10:20 I don't have a page labeled maybe in my learndb. 12:10:33 -!- RZX has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:10:46 ??:beh: 12:10:47 :beh:[1/10]: r\?\?>>> ::: ::: continue 12:10:50 ??:beh:[10 12:10:50 :beh:[10/10]: ^�learn add ${word} >>>::: Okay, not adding ${word} => ${after} 12:10:53 ??:beh:[9 12:10:53 :beh:[9/10]: !learn add advice ${*text} :::::: last 12:11:00 ??:beh:[maybe 12:11:01 I don't have a page labeled :beh:maybe in my learndb. 12:11:23 des[/h 12:11:27 ??des[/h 12:11:27 I don't have a page labeled des/h in my learndb. 12:11:37 how do you search entries again? 12:12:10 oh, haha 12:12:16 a top_deleter just got to ??maybe 12:12:18 that's why 12:12:51 s??des[/h 12:12:51 I don't have a page labeled des[/h in my learndb. 12:13:08 s??des[h 12:13:09 des[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:maps/ 12:13:10 ah 12:13:12 that's it 12:13:12 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 12:13:23 s??:beh:[rng 12:13:30 Could not expand $(ldb-find $after) : subprocess error 12:14:27 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:54 "nothing makes sense, fire is cold, snow is hot," 12:16:59 "lethe isn't stupid" 12:17:11 03tenofswords02 07* 0.14-a0-2481-g0f8acbf: Modernize river_lethe 10(59 seconds ago, 1 file, 68+ 74-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f8acbfc5e5e 12:19:05 now to stab at profane halls 12:20:52 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2482-ge27c932: Pad the lava enemy spawn lists a bit. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e27c932d6678 12:20:52 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2483-g211950a: Let non-Natasha monster felids revive as well. 10(4 minutes ago, 4 files, 40+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=211950a05e67 12:21:44 fire vortexes eurgh 12:22:13 i think non-natasha monster felids probably shouldn't become a thing 12:22:29 Well, that code needed adjusting anyway >_> 12:22:58 hmm 12:23:22 ah, good, felids are no_poly_to 12:24:01 Really, some more general means of tracking what a monster originally was would be helpful. 12:24:20 It would mean a lot less silly mons_is_pikel, mons_is_kirke, mons_is_natasha, ... 12:24:23 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:27:40 grunt, while you're stabbing at fire vortexes, I request a hells-unique lava set to place some firebrands except with magic done so that there are no lava salamander simulacra 12:27:51 s|fire vortexes|lava monster sets| 12:28:23 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:50 The helpless fire vortex fails to defend itself. You open the fire vortex like a pillowcase!!! 12:29:39 Should there still be skeletons and zombies? 12:29:57 salamander zombie (07z) | Spd: 6 | HD: 8 | HP: 54-82 | AC/EV: 3/2 | Dam: 14 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(10), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 71 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 12:29:57 %??salamander zombie 12:30:02 ...looks like no. 12:30:52 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31:13 I don't know exactly what makes a fire dragon no longer fire resistant when made into a zombie but while that still stands yeah lava zombies don't make much sense 12:32:27 (what else should be on this list) 12:34:27 oh, uh 12:34:52 there is not much to spare that doesn't already spawn in gehenna and thus make liquids patrolling weird, hrm 12:36:29 (fire elementals?) 12:36:36 sure 12:39:39 tenofswords: how do you feel about someone going through vaults and removing all the placed felids/tengu/etc? 12:39:42 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:40:35 does this still count "human" 12:41:53 pretty much every dummy-player-species-monster besides human are bad enough that I was going to edit them out myself, so go ahead 12:42:31 tenofswords: I was going to leave humans for now since they are so far gone, yes 12:43:10 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:43:11 tenofswords: and also those two or three entry vaults 12:43:39 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2484-gecf3de2: Nudge Snake lava spawn list. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ecf3de2af852 12:43:39 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2485-gd521b48: Don't attempt to make simulacra in lava in Hell. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d521b4841996 12:43:39 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2486-g5ab8ab6: Ultra-basic Hell lava enemy set (tenofswords). 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ab8ab6544bf 12:44:26 I wouldn't mind those entry vault zoos also going (we have such a bad precedent of monsters-behind-glass being a good decorative vault), but it's probably fine for now to leave them alone, sure 12:46:13 tenofswords: well, the reason is I want the patch to actually be accepted, and I know several people really wanted to keep those 12:46:26 heh 12:47:46 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:48:28 -!- CyberSandwich has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:03 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:51:17 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:51:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:52:14 minmay: just make them all vault-reflavoured rats 12:52:26 rat name:mountain_dwarf n_rpl 12:53:07 plain dwarves in an oka shrine in lair, sigh 12:53:31 Well, that wasn't a Lair vault originally; it was a Dwarf entry. 12:53:37 (three guesses as to who moved it 12:53:38 ) 12:54:27 Unknown spell name: 'shatter,lrd' in 'shatter,lrd' 12:54:27 %?? kraken name:"Krakkin' Kraken" spells:shatter,lrd n_rpl 12:54:36 you get the idea 12:54:43 Unknown spell name: 'lrd' in 'shatter;lrd' 12:54:43 %??kraken name:krakkin'_kraken spells:shatter;lrd n_rpl 12:54:51 krakkin' kraken (05X) | Spd: 14 | HD: 16 | HP: 183-230 | AC/EV: 20/0 | Dam: 50 | cold-blooded, !sil | Res: 06magic(64), 12drown | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 2740 | Sp: shatter, rapid deconstruction | Sz: Huge | Int: animal. 12:54:51 %??kraken name:krakkin'_kraken spells:shatter;lee's_rapid_deconstruction n_rpl 12:54:54 there. 12:54:54 >_> 12:55:19 needs rockworm tentacles 12:55:29 -!- CyberSandwich is now known as nikitamog 12:55:33 huh, kraken are X 12:55:44 would you prefer ; 12:55:46 krakkin' kraken (05X) | Spd: 14 | HD: 23 | HP: 264-327 | AC/EV: 20/0 | Dam: 50 | cold-blooded, !sil | Res: 06magic(92), 12drown | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 6984 | Sp: shatter, rapid deconstruction | Sz: Huge | Int: animal. 12:55:46 %??kraken name:krakkin'_kraken hd:23 spells:shatter;lee's_rapid_deconstruction n_rpl 12:55:50 that's better 12:55:53 yeah I kind of would 12:56:07 I guess "things with tentacles" 12:56:10 hence 12:56:12 octopode (11x) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 40-73 | AC/EV: 1/5 | Dam: 24, 503(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(10), 12drown | XP: 475 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 12:56:12 %??octopode 12:56:17 XXX with brown X'es 12:56:24 but they're the only x with tentacles... 12:56:30 zyme, thrashing horror, worldbinder, 12:56:38 -!- nikitamog is now known as CyberSandwich 12:57:03 unknown monster: "zyme" 12:57:03 %??zyme 12:57:07 I wonder if worldbinder, flavourwise, should be on v 12:57:08 ancient zyme (03x) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 38-66 | AC/EV: 6/6 | Dam: 1605(drain strength), 1605(drain dexterity) | 11non-living, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(53), 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 327 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 12:57:08 %??ancient_zyme 12:57:29 worldbinder (10x) | Spd: 14 | HD: 8 | HP: 28-52 | AC/EV: 12/4 | Dam: 8, 8 | 11non-living, 10doors, sense invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 06magic(64), 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 514 | Sp: forceful invitation | Sz: small | Int: animal. 12:57:29 %??worldbinder 12:57:40 none of those have tentacles 12:57:54 just what's going on here exactly 12:58:02 starcursed, abomination, orb guardian 12:58:07 those are X 12:58:09 x/X - Weird things 12:58:12 mimics 12:58:13 >_> 12:58:25 in general it's proof that X, like much of crawl, does not make sense 12:59:06 is X here a variable? 12:59:14 X the glyph. 12:59:17 obviously yes 12:59:35 (I like X being a variable there though >_>) 12:59:47 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:55 gelid chaos champion (046) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 61-171 | AC/EV: 6/12 | Dam: 25 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60), 02cold++ | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1355 | Sp: rearrange the pieces, chaotic mirror, melee | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 12:59:55 %??chaos_champion 13:00:09 Variable (04X) | Spd: 6-12 | HD: 11 | HP: 32-67 | AC/EV: 0/0 | Dam: 40 | 07undead, evil, !sil | Res: 06magic(102), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 725 | Sp: chaotic mirror | Sz: Big | Int: plant. 13:00:09 %?? large_abomination name:Variable spells:chaotic_mirror n_rpl 13:00:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 13:00:36 gelid chaos champion (126) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 68-112 | AC/EV: 6/12 | Dam: 25 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60), 02cold++ | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1287 | Sp: rearrange the pieces, chaotic mirror, melee | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 13:00:36 %??gelid chaos champion 13:00:52 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:52 nice hp range on that otherwise accurate random pull 13:00:56 f (04X) | Spd: 6-12 | HD: 11 | HP: 32-67 | AC/EV: 0/0 | Dam: 40 | 07undead, evil, !sil | Res: 06magic(102), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 725 | Sp: chaotic mirror | Sz: Big | Int: plant. 13:00:56 %?? large_abomination name:f spells:chaotic_mirror n_rpl 13:00:57 I see my "fix the base monster" thing isn't working. 13:01:00 f (X) 13:01:40 gammafunk clearly zot needs decorative vaults of bizarre functions, get on it 13:01:56 we already have the sauna 13:01:56 Lightli: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:02:00 !messages 13:02:01 (1/1) LordSloth said (12h 46m 54s ago): rather than miss your messages again, I think I'll stick to ascii 13:02:13 I can't imagine what associates me with bizarre functions 13:02:35 -!- N78291 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:06 ...welp, this vestibule has 10 fire elementals 13:07:25 tenofswords: can you think of anything to do with lexackson_kobold_supper other than remove it 13:08:33 replace halflings with... uh, hounds? 13:09:47 oh hey somehow gehenna doesn't naturally place smoke demons or sun demons (aside from balrug bands for the latter) 13:10:12 -!- bmfx_ is now known as bmfx 13:10:54 minmay: how come, did halflings get removed? 13:11:07 doglings 13:11:17 is it possible to draw ash wrath 13:11:21 from a deck 13:11:48 probably 13:11:53 although I have no idea how that would work 13:12:31 Lightli: they are getting removed, yes 13:12:53 are you lying 13:13:08 why is reading comprehension so difficult 13:13:27 because I joined after said discussion I assume 13:13:28 brb 13:13:33 minmay: replace them with fruit 13:13:34 N78291: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:13:35 (checking devlogs like I should have) 13:13:48 why are kobolds growing fruit? that's for the player to figure out 13:13:55 !messages 13:13:56 (1/1) MarvinPA said (5h 32m 34s ago): those spells look neat to me, am playing with them a bit locally. i'd sort of like to replace both scorps and call imp in callings somehow (it's sort of deliberate that minor magic's the only starting book with 7 spells), not sure that the spell levels would really work out for that though. 13:13:57 N78291: for fedhas 13:14:15 boulder beetle trap blocked lair