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0.14-a0-2403-g3e27d54: Automatically identify chopped hides. 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e27d548badd 11:14:06 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2404-ge212a54: Also identify hides generated on the ground. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e212a5497dfb 11:14:06 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2405-gb782f2d: Don't show enchantment on hides (XuaXua, galehar) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b782f2db7450 11:15:36 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:15:40 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2402-ge836774 (34) 11:19:52 * Grunt decides to stir the pot a bit more, seeing as we've been doing uniques for the past few days... 11:20:20 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2406-g68e4d12: Monster spell: Blink Allies Away. 10(4 days ago, 4 files, 75+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=68e4d12a9970 11:20:20 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2407-g0d6a4c4: Monster Shroud of Golubria spell, effect and M_SHROUD. 10(3 days ago, 8 files, 46+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d6a4c4d1c46 11:20:20 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2408-gc38a8f9: Unique: Vashnia, leader of the elite marksnaga squad. 10(3 days ago, 14 files, 133+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c38a8f9b011d 11:20:20 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2409-g03e8a7a: Touch-up to Vashnia tile (þuþþy). 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=03e8a7adeb35 11:20:20 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2410-g380a7a5: Increase the chance for Aizul to appear in Snake. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=380a7a57ccfa 11:20:22 jormungandr? 11:20:23 Nah. 11:20:25 The other one. :b 11:20:30 ah 11:20:32 lamia v2 11:20:41 !senf Grunt the elite marksnaga squad 11:20:42 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:08 (that last one is especially experimental) 11:21:41 Okay, maybe I should work on the changelog some more :b 11:22:10 +This spell blinks allies in sight of the caster near a pointed-at enemy and 11:22:10 +blinks them away from that enemy. 11:22:30 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:22:38 you don't really need the "and blinks them," do you? 11:22:47 oh 11:23:04 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:40 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2411-g037c4a0: Fixup a spell description (wheals). 10(25 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=037c4a069b72 11:23:52 !killratio asterion 11:23:54 asterion wins 1.492% of battles. 11:23:59 gammafunk: 11:24:03 %git HEAD^{/Asterion} 11:24:03 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2402-ge836774: Buff Asterion's HP. 10(47 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e83677461956 11:24:05 I hope you don't mind. 11:24:18 sure, I was actually thinking more give him a sligh armour upgrade 11:24:23 but that also makes sense 11:24:40 maybe something more than a 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BimmyLee the Impaler (L15 DsGl), worshipper of Okawaru, blasted by Asterion (bolt of lightning) on D:15 on 2014-02-03 14:28:36, with 86479 points after 30535 turns and 3:36:53. 11:24:51 my sense is so player-skewed 11:24:53 nice, is that a wand? 11:24:59 nay 11:25:03 major destruct 11:25:11 oh, thought it just had orb 11:25:18 ??major_destruction 11:25:19 major destruction[1/3]: Power is based on invocations. Randomly fires one of: bolt of fire|lightning|draining|iron, fireball, ranged sticky flame, or an orb of electrocution that will explode with radius 2 and make you wish you hadn't fired at something so close to you. 11:25:21 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 11:25:23 ok 11:25:48 !learn edit major_destruction s/electrocution/electricity/ 11:25:48 Use: !learn edit major_destruction[NUM] s/// 11:25:53 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:58 !learn edit major_destruction[1] s/electrocution/electricity/ 11:25:58 major destruction[1/3]: Power is based on invocations. Randomly fires one of: bolt of fire|lightning|draining|iron, fireball, ranged sticky flame, or an orb of electricity that will explode with radius 2 and make you wish you hadn't fired at something so close to you. 11:26:11 %git :/electrocution 11:26:11 07gammafunk02 {MarvinPA} * 0.14-a0-2381-g4cacdb4: Rename all instances of "Orb of Electrocution" to "Orb of Electricity" 10(2 days ago, 4 files, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4cacdb496aec 11:26:22 ??electrocution 11:26:23 electrocution[1/1]: Weapon brand that causes your weapon to blast your target with an explosion of sparks on 1 out of every 3 hits, doing 9+d15 additional damage (which ignores AC). Does not work on targets with rElec. Does not work on levitating or flying targets in versions older than 0.13. 11:26:33 ??orb_of_electrocution 11:26:33 orb of electrocution[1/1]: Epic electrical storm. Was Annihilations-exclusive in pre-SS versions of Crawl; now Makhleb and Nemelex exclusive. Very deadly to anyone within 3 squares; 150+ damage has occured. 11:26:38 ??orb_of_electricity 11:26:38 I don't have a page labeled orb_of_electricity in my learndb. 11:26:52 !learn mv orb_of_electrocution orb_of_electricity 11:26:53 orb_of_electrocution -> orb of electricity[1/1]: Epic electrical storm. Was Annihilations-exclusive in pre-SS versions of Crawl; now Makhleb and Nemelex exclusive. Very deadly to anyone within 3 squares; 150+ damage has occured. 11:27:06 Grunt: also, can you get the _Vashnia_naga_ messages if you poly her into your player race? 11:27:27 !learn add orb_of_electrocution see {orb of electricity} 11:27:27 orb of electrocution[1/1]: see {orb of electricity} 11:27:35 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:27:41 ??orb_of_electrocution 11:27:41 orb of electricity[1/1]: Epic electrical storm. Was Annihilations-exclusive in pre-SS versions of Crawl; now Makhleb and Nemelex exclusive. Very deadly to anyone within 3 squares; 150+ damage has occured. 11:27:47 wheals: possibly <_< 11:28:00 Natasha (02h) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 21 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(24) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 50 | Sp: magic dart (3d4), slow, sum.minor demon, 04esc:mephitic cloud | Sz: little | Int: high. 11:28:00 %??natasha 11:28:03 er 11:28:07 unknown monster: "vashnia" 11:28:07 %??vashnia 11:28:13 wish both were synced 11:28:15 -!- CampinSam has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 11:28:16 monster will need to be updated :( 11:28:18 oh but no rebuild 11:28:23 too many uniques ending with 'a'! 11:28:28 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 11:28:28 hrmm 11:28:45 fr: unique named aa (that clearly does Sif channel) 11:28:50 -!- neunon has quit [Client Quit] 11:28:57 ??aa 11:28:57 I don't have a page labeled aa in my learndb. Did you mean: ac, ada, ae, ak, am, ar, as, ax, da, ea, ha, na, pa, sa. 11:29:00 wut 11:29:01 no, just rename snorg aa 11:29:18 Asterion (05H) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 120 | AC/EV: 5/7 | Dam: 40, 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 2344 | Sp: major destruction (3d20), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d22), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d24), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d25), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d28), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d52), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d53), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d6), spectral weapon | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 11:29:18 %??asterion 11:29:19 alternatively, 'aa' could be a unique lorc 11:29:20 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:31 %git :/asterion 11:29:32 Could not find commit :/asterion (git returned 128) 11:29:37 %git :/Asterion 11:29:37 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2402-ge836774: Buff Asterion's HP. 10(52 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e83677461956 11:30:19 -!- neunon has quit [Client Quit] 11:30:33 Yeah, I think the problem is melee users can mostly tab through; hp helps, but I think some defense tweaking may be in order 11:30:41 the other think is to have the spectral weapon have blink closer 11:30:49 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:51 if it can't hit (but asterion can), have it blink closer to player 11:31:03 blink ally near 11:31:03 but hey, at least he's at the right kill % 11:31:14 that wouldn't work as well 11:31:15 -!- ZanniqlcKzxkq is now known as Zannick 11:31:25 we want the spectre to cast it when it sees it can't hit the player 11:31:28 where the eff is nickserv 11:31:42 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:31:45 freenode US servers are all kinds of broken (apparently DOS attack) 11:31:50 I'm using the UK server now 11:31:54 oh great. 11:32:04 I'll update my config then. 11:32:23 did you have any problems from canada, Grunt ? 11:32:30 gammafunk: yes! 11:32:31 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:32:36 switched servers? 11:32:46 Yes. 11:32:50 it's been going on for well over a day 11:33:27 god, I always made fun of beam code, and now the day is here...I have to write beam code... 11:33:30 hold me wheals 11:33:57 i actually worked around the beam code in my unrand patch 11:33:58 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:09 ew, you're already tainted then 11:34:27 -!- aremel has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:34:34 -!- HellTiger__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:35:03 -!- nixor1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:37:38 <|amethyst> last night I tried about 10 servers for my bots until I found that they could connect to kornbluth 11:37:47 <|amethyst> many european servers were failing too 11:38:18 |amethyst: any info as to the specifics of why it's down? I read random "DOS" comments 11:38:33 gammafunk: actually my point was that i still don't know it since i avoided it! 11:38:35 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I haven't been in any of the ##freenode channels 11:38:46 frickin bolts 11:39:23 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:39:27 struct bolt beem; return beem.is_beam 11:39:34 <|amethyst> gammafunk: the freenodestaff twitter says "mitigating a DDoS"; also that 127.0.0.* were removed about 9 hours ago 11:40:01 <|amethyst> gammafunk: "services were shut down by the staffer hiding behind the curtains and services should be coming back soon." 11:40:17 ... 11:40:38 not sure what that first claus means 11:40:47 s/claus/clause/ 11:42:17 <|amethyst> Yeah, I can think of at least two or three things "hiding behind the curtains" could be intended to imply there 11:42:52 Topic for #freenode: We're currently experiencing what appears to be a DOS attack against our servers. Some servers are offline, and local IPs appear in the rotation, meaning that some connections will fail. 11:43:40 I knew someone would hate Asterion...or did they hate Natasha? 11:44:05 <|amethyst> BlastHardcheese: looks like their twitter feed is more up-to-date than their /topic :) 11:44:14 <|amethyst> BlastHardcheese: since local IPs are out of the rotation now 11:44:56 one of my irc bots connected to one of the local ips successfully 11:45:14 namely, my local bitlbee server :P 11:45:14 Zannick: was the resulting conversation profound? 11:47:37 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:50:52 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:01 -!- Guest72849 is now known as Wensley 11:53:06 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:54:47 -!- neunon is now known as Guest34825 11:57:29 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2412-g5b26dac: Changelog through 0.14-a0-2411-g037c4a0. 10(44 seconds ago, 1 file, 91+ 25-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b26dac50442 11:58:19 I am beginning to think we should focus less on more features at this point and more on balancing out what we already have. 11:59:09 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:59:28 Grunt: for release? Yes. 11:59:51 * Grunt ponders if that is a Dith altar following dpeg around. 12:02:17 Altars of all gods worship me. 12:05:08 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2413-g186583a: Let Natasha reviving work properly in arena. 10(71 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=186583a246bc 12:05:10 There should also be a discussion which new species to take for release. 12:05:15 I agree. 12:05:27 CRD post time? 12:05:43 <|amethyst> I think Eronarn agrees that LO need to move away from using tension before they're ready 12:05:54 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:03 I did one, but putting two subjects in one mail was not a clever ideas, as always. So: yes! 12:06:16 I'll write something up. 12:06:20 thanks 12:09:35 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 26.0/20131215102647]] 12:09:53 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:12:02 -!- Guest6851 is now known as ChrisOelmueller 12:12:41 (note to self: it helps if you get the list address right) 12:13:41 -!- redmoss has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:16:57 |amethyst: re Dith xp: yes, I also thought about leveling w/o kills. A message (in the god channel) would probably solve the problem. What about: "Supported from the shadows, you have reached level X." 12:17:53 -!- Mattias is now known as Guest94443 12:19:42 <|amethyst> dpeg_: not sure how easy it would be to do that, since the level-gain code doesn't know where the XP came from 12:20:07 -!- Tarragon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:16 <|amethyst> dpeg_: but something similar should be possible: at the very least a message after the level gain 12:20:27 <|amethyst> dpeg_: since the dith code can tell whether you gained a level 12:20:35 <|amethyst> dpeg_: a message before the level gain would probably be possible to 12:20:51 <|amethyst> dpeg_: if we can predict whether the XP would gain you a level (I haven't looked into it) 12:22:18 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2413-g186583a (34) 12:22:40 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2413-g186583a (34) 12:24:43 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 12:26:30 |amethyst: I'm wondering how often Chei's monster db rebuilds, and/or if there is a way (or feasible for there to be a way) to trigger a rebuild for it. 12:27:03 <|amethyst> Grunt: It rebuilds when I tell it to, and you can ask me to tell it to 12:27:44 <|amethyst> Grunt: it's on a machine I'm not paying for and that had dozens or hundreds of paid customers 12:27:51 -!- Tarragon is now known as Basil__ 12:28:06 <|amethyst> Grunt: and can be heavily loaded at times, so I don't want to do even a daily recompile of crawl 12:28:36 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:28:51 <|amethyst> Grunt: once Chei moves somewhere else that can be fixed 12:28:56 * Grunt nods. 12:29:45 <|amethyst> (don't want to move it to CSZO because CSZO goes down too frequently to want to tie ##crawl-dev logging and commit announcements to it) 12:30:27 <|amethyst> Grunt: doing a rebuild now 12:31:21 |amethyst: oh, thanks; I was about to say that if it's a problem then don't bother right now :) 12:31:50 <|amethyst> Maybe I should do a daily rebuild script that checks the load 12:31:57 <|amethyst> if it's not too high, do the rebuild 12:32:11 <|amethyst> since that's essentially what I do when I think about it or someone bugs me about it :) 12:33:24 -!- Guest94443 is now known as Mattias___ 12:33:43 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2414-g296184e: Add a warning to the save compatibility documentation. 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 25+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=296184e7596e 12:34:04 emergency rebuild? /me reads backlog 12:34:19 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:34:32 <|amethyst> johnstein: oh, we were talking about 'monster' (%??) 12:34:35 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:34:46 <|amethyst> johnstein: which isn't automatically rebuilt at all 12:34:46 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:35:08 I mean, I saw the note above for CBRO updating 12:35:49 johnstein: that was me, and that was primarily for some balance adjustments <_< 12:36:28 Grunt: ah ok. asterion and Natasha? 12:36:29 <|amethyst> I think we should be a little more wary than we have been of pushing out updates 12:36:43 saw the updates earlier. looked interesting 12:37:11 I have been known to get a little hasty with the rebuild triggers :( 12:37:19 <|amethyst> At least with the daily rebuilds, there's theoretically a several-hour window for people to point out problems 12:37:21 |amethyst: the experimental builds seemed like a fantastic way to check out new stuff 12:37:48 -!- Mattias___ has quit [Quit: ã‹ãŒã‚“ã§å»»ã£ã¦ã²ã­ã£ã¦ï½ƒï½Œï½ï½ï¼] 12:38:01 <|amethyst> johnstein: depends... not sure they'd be appropriate for something like Asterion 12:38:17 <|amethyst> definitely not without guaranteeing the unique 12:38:39 <|amethyst> Anything late-game is a problem too 12:38:42 hmm. could enable wizmode? or is that delving into dangerous waters? 12:38:53 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:53 <|amethyst> It's been suggested, and I'm thinking about it 12:38:56 Tiles needed for new enemies by sgrunt 12:38:58 <|amethyst> but haven't made a decision 12:39:14 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:39:46 a bunch of us at mefightclub are futzing around with dev ideas so I set up a dev webtiles that allows wizmode. we'll see how that goes 12:40:22 just back 12:42:14 johnstein: mefightclub? 12:43:03 www.mefightclub.com. smallish gaming community with historical ties to MetaFilter, though today basically it's own thing 12:43:25 we had 30 players in the past two tourneys 12:43:52 [MeFi] though next tourney will probably be [MFC] 12:44:00 -!- redmosss is now known as _oiseaux 12:44:12 <|amethyst> johnstein: hey, could you resend me that announcement 12:44:14 -!- _oiseaux has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:44:16 <|amethyst> johnstein: I seem to have lost it 12:44:34 <|amethyst> knew there was something I'd been forgetting :) 12:44:40 |amethyst. sure. I'll dig it up later tonight when I'm at home 12:44:55 <|amethyst> actually 12:45:29 <|amethyst> Napkin: could you give johnstein an wordpress account so he can post his own CBRO announcement :) 12:45:40 hah 12:46:28 I'll finally be a somebody! 12:47:31 <|amethyst> johnstein: also, you should add yourself to Noteworthy Non-Devteam People at https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:admin:devteam 12:48:05 |amethyst: ok. I'll take a stab at that 12:50:20 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 12:51:45 ??force lance 12:51:46 force lance[1/1]: Level 5 range 4 conjuration. Deals modest damage. If it injures a target, it attempts to knock them back, which fails if random2(2500) is less than their body weight. There is a 50% chance of a second knockback attempt (so if both succeed they will be knocked back two spaces). 12:53:25 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:59:00 -!- morik has quit [Disconnected by services] 13:00:19 sure think 13:01:00 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:05 *thing 13:02:01 -!- morik_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:02:39 -!- ChanServ has quit [shutting down] 13:02:53 johnstein: what's a rotato? 13:03:11 ??cbro[3 13:03:11 cbro[3/3]: "Be Excellent to each other. If you can't be excellent, Be Civil. If you can't be civil, Be Offline" --herrdoktor (Be Rotato!) 13:03:33 johnstein, you've got privmsg in irc here 13:03:47 in-joke at mefightclub. but the quite above is the takeaway 13:05:28 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:05:34 -!- mong has quit [Changing host] 13:05:41 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:05:55 -!- ChrisOelmueller is now known as Guest7350 13:06:13 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:06:15 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Changing host] 13:07:17 -!- Guest7350 is now known as chris-oelmueller 13:07:57 -!- Basil__ is now known as Basil 13:10:21 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:56 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:42 Who all has a wordpress account right now, anyway? I've been contemplating trying to make more announcements about significant changes there (like in the days of yore). 13:14:07 <|amethyst> probably "anyone who's posted" 13:14:09 would be cool, Grunt 13:14:13 -!- duralumin has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:14:23 ...I'd need an account, then :) 13:14:54 Grunt: I have 13:15:51 -!- Turgor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:17:57 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:25 rN not displayed in `xv` for monsters by chris 13:20:04 -!- frostsno1 is now known as frostsnow 13:20:33 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:50 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:46 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 13:26:08 -!- Guest34825 is now known as neunon 13:26:13 -!- neunon has quit [Changing host] 13:26:13 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:21 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:44 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 13:29:14 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:02 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2415-g1c17fde: Display rN in xv even for nonliving monsters (#8098) 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c17fde89453 13:45:31 wow, I just died to a shambling mangrove :) 13:51:53 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:55:27 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 13:56:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:56:32 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:58:08 |amethyst: is there a centralized way of getting natasha muted on irc short of contacting all bot owners to update whatever they're running? 13:58:14 (after that PR i mean) 13:58:31 <|amethyst> chris-oelmueller: oh, right 13:58:39 <|amethyst> chris-oelmueller: not really 13:58:43 mhm 13:58:53 okay then i shall do that instead 13:58:54 <|amethyst> chris-oelmueller: that's mentioned in my draft proposal 14:00:35 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2416-g8b25d41: Do show enchantment for hides that aren't +0 (Implojin) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b25d4142020 14:00:38 is Natasha spamming ##crawl? 14:01:49 <|amethyst> johnstein: most D: uniques (except sigmund) are not announced 14:02:22 in my opinion sigmund also should be muted but well 14:02:37 that one is a tad more controversial 14:03:08 -!- dtsund has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:03:10 ohh. didn't know it was "most D" uniques. I never put it together that most of the unannounced uniques were mostly D 14:03:26 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:28 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:37 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:56 ??asterion 14:07:56 asterion[1/1]: A unique minotaur of Makhleb with {major destruction} and {spectral weapon}. Always has a good demon weapon, a large shield, and a robe. 14:08:19 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08:29 !learn edit asterion s, , ,g 14:08:29 asterion[1/1]: A unique minotaur of Makhleb with {major destruction} and {spectral weapon}. Always has a good demon weapon, a large shield, and a robe. 14:08:31 is there a way from chat to figure out where the uniques spawn 14:08:35 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:42 !vault uniq_asterion 14:08:43 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/uniques.des;hb=HEAD#l397 14:08:43 !vault uniq_asterion 14:08:44 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/uniques.des;hb=HEAD#l397 14:08:52 !vault uniq_boris 14:08:52 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/uniques.des;hb=HEAD#l122 14:09:03 <|amethyst> Okay, Natasha and Asterion added to @BORING_UNIQUES 14:09:08 <|amethyst> on CSZO and CAO 14:09:14 wow asterion also? 14:09:21 didn't strike me as the type 14:09:28 I will update Rotatell right now too 14:09:31 he got nerfed a bit 14:09:39 ah 14:09:41 <|amethyst> update at https://github.com/neilmoore/sizzell.git commit a53a7a1 14:09:44 okay wasn't following that yeah 14:09:46 he's frances depth, not sojobo depth 14:10:12 but not a big deal since CBRO isn't very active yet 14:11:14 <|amethyst> $watch neil 14:12:10 <|amethyst> TZer0: several updates for lantell at my github (johnstein's watch command, which you'll have to merge-resolve and make use $ ; and an addition to the unannounced uniques) 14:12:31 <|amethyst> TZer0: https://github.com/neilmoore/sizzell.git 14:18:00 -!- Sorbius_ is now known as Sorbius 14:18:14 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19:34 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:02 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:21:20 New serial vault: Park by coolio 14:22:20 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2417-gf745ed0: Fix ridiculous salamander firebrand energy entry. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f745ed05d17b 14:23:15 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:26:59 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:10 now that my main point of un-contact no longer is around, could i get somebody else to look at #7396 perhaps? 14:34:05 -!- chris-oelmueller is now known as ChrisOelmueller 14:35:13 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:21 ??gdr 14:35:21 gdr[1/3]: "Guaranteed damage reduction" versus melee attacks, conferred by body armour. Monsters do not have GDR, only players. If you're making equipment decisions based on this, please reconsider. 14:35:28 Do monsters also get GDR? 14:35:33 hehe 14:35:34 duh 14:36:08 <|amethyst> int gdr_perc() const { return 0; } 14:36:42 ok, c++ question, what's the purpose of the 'const' there? 14:36:49 oh also VS player glyph is not very ... good in my opinion 14:36:56 <|amethyst> it's a method of the monster class 14:37:14 <|amethyst> the const says you can call it on a const monster 14:37:19 ah, ty 14:37:24 -!- ghallberg has left ##crawl-dev 14:39:31 hrm, in follow-up to grunt's hp commit, I was thinking both Asterion and Frances should have Rupert's armour selection: equal chance of leather, ring, scale, or chain 14:39:40 -!- Adeon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:42 -!- tortuga has quit [Client Quit] 14:39:54 Frances (08@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 121 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 29 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(93) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 2119 | Sp: throw icicle (3d23), sum.demon, haste, iron shot (3d26) | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 14:39:54 %??frances 14:40:14 Asterion (05H) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 5/7 | Dam: 40, 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 2749 | Sp: major destruction (3d20), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d22), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d24), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d25), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d28), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d52), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d53), spectral weapon / major destruction (3d6), spectral weapon | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 14:40:14 %??asterion 14:40:31 hrm, I suppose the innate ac/ev complicates that a bit 14:40:37 ??encumbrance 14:40:38 encumbrance rating[1/1]: A number representing how much armour harms your spellcasting, dodging, and melee accuracy. Units are "arbitrary units of encumbrance" (aue). 14:41:40 why does asterion have a robe, btw? 14:42:04 wheals: no good reason, and same question for Frances imo 14:42:11 her tile certainly suggests she has armour 14:42:19 i just usually think of minotaurs as wearing plate 14:42:40 I think always chain/plate is more appropriate for e.g. jory/wiglaf -- lower-depth uniques 14:43:09 although wiglaf might even have the same depth 14:43:12 jory has chain? 14:43:14 !vault uniq_wiglaf 14:43:15 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/uniques.des;hb=HEAD#l315 14:43:20 yes 14:43:36 and maud/donald 14:43:44 so I guess my argument isn't valid (surprise) 14:43:56 but in the case of Asterion, he just got an HP buff and it's still early 14:43:58 well, given that you suggested increasing his ac, why not just give him plate instead? 14:44:14 that's a big increase that's then always present 14:44:23 rupert-style armour adds variability to the ac 14:44:34 !killratio rupert 14:44:36 rupert wins 5.276% of battles. 14:44:43 !killratio jory 14:44:45 jory wins 2.459% of battles. 14:44:57 actually more appropriate is 14:45:00 !killratio wiglaf 14:45:02 wiglaf wins 1.814% of battles. 14:45:13 so armour not the deciding factor, of course 14:45:50 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:51 other things like haste could be considered, but I think smaller tweaks are good to try first 14:46:09 5 AC does seem a little low for what you'd expect of a minotaur 14:46:42 I'm going to make a patch with two commits, one each for Asterion and Frances getting that rupert-style armour 14:46:55 but if anyone has strong feelings against this, please let me knwo 14:47:13 !killratio Maud 14:47:15 Maud wins 1.851% of battles. 14:47:19 !killratio Frances 14:47:21 Frances wins 0.468% of battles. 14:47:32 Don't worry, Frances! We'll get there! 14:47:35 has anyone died to asterion yet 14:47:40 only one I think 14:47:48 !lg * uniq=asterion 14:47:49 Unknown field: uniq 14:48:00 !lg * ikiller=asterion 14:48:01 1. BimmyLee the Impaler (L15 DsGl), worshipper of Okawaru, blasted by Asterion (bolt of lightning) on D:15 on 2014-02-03 14:28:36, with 86479 points after 30535 turns and 3:36:53. 14:48:14 Yeah, that was someone zerking pretty foolishly 14:48:28 and then deciding to run up the stairs mid-zerk 14:48:54 But I have watch many players with strong defense tab through with relative ease 14:48:58 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:49:06 !lg * ikiller=natasha 14:49:07 19. TheDoctor the Insei (L8 OpTm), blasted by a white imp (puff of frost) (summoned by Natasha) on D:5 on 2014-02-03 20:24:21, with 1000 points after 5711 turns and 0:13:30. 14:49:11 dpeg_: i completely support that suggestion about printing the early-game help you get (from both race and class) 14:49:13 hehe 14:49:18 she may be a bit much 14:49:23 !killratio natasha 14:49:25 natasha wins 7.421% of battles. 14:49:32 white imps are just that on d:early 14:49:32 well, that's not too bad 14:49:46 !killratio sigmund 14:49:47 Wz strat now gets back to the player 14:49:50 sigmund wins 27.86% of battles. 14:49:57 .86 too much 14:50:02 yeah she's not way off the mark for early game unique 14:50:07 those get all the kills 14:50:15 those innocent, vulnerable players... 14:50:21 just think of all those non-uniques 14:50:43 monster summon minor demon seems to be a lot more lethal than call imp 14:50:46 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:01 can player even ever summon three? 14:51:01 ??book_of_minor_magic 14:51:01 book of minor magic[1/1]: Magic Dart, Blink, Call Imp, Repel Missiles, Slow, Conjure Flame, Mephitic Cloud 14:51:14 even one white imp kills stuff through d:8 14:51:14 maybe call imp instead? It's the wz spell anyhow 14:51:18 -!- flyingsquare has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:51:31 call imp isn't a monster spell, that's the thing 14:51:43 (afaik) 14:51:55 wouldn't be difficult to make it one 14:52:11 wheals: no beam code there, I promise 14:52:32 i'm pretty sure minor demon is supposed to be the monster version, but there's a lack of symmetry (not necessarily a bad thing) 14:52:52 yes, it is 14:52:55 the biggest disymmetry is lemures, dunno why those even exist 14:53:15 FR 4.1 imps 14:53:21 Well I think ChrisOelmueller is right that white imps are the factor 14:53:22 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:53:35 Not sure how bad the pain for shadow imps is, as well 14:53:41 shadow imp (065) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 6-16 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Dam: 6 | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(8), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 11 | Sp: pain (d8), animate dead | Sz: little | Int: normal. 14:53:41 %??shadow_imp 14:53:45 Grinder (025) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 40 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Dam: 1105(pain) | 05demonic, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(24), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 322 | Sp: pain (d10), paralyse, blink | Sz: little | Int: normal. 14:53:45 %??grinder 14:53:54 i think they're just crimson imps with animate dead? 14:53:55 white imp (165) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 6-16 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 412(cold:2-5) | 05demonic, 10doors, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(8), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 10 | Sp: throw frost (3d5) | Sz: little | Int: normal. 14:53:55 %??white_imp 14:53:59 and pain i suppose 14:54:00 no, they have pain as well 14:54:08 3d5 hurts a lot early game 14:54:23 -!- Implojin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:28 hm 14:54:29 so when are we getting flying squirrel and moose uniques 14:54:29 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:32 <|amethyst> give them frost tongue 14:54:40 or freeze... 14:54:43 -!- Psyknux has quit [Quit: My work is end \(^o^)/] 14:54:44 best L1 spell 14:54:46 freeze (d20 14:55:02 <|amethyst> I don't think giving them freeze would reduce their lethality much 14:55:10 yeah that was my point :p 14:55:21 white imp (165) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 6-16 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 412(cold:2-5) | 05demonic, 10doors, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(8), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 10 | Sp: freeze | Sz: little | Int: normal. 14:55:21 <|amethyst> %??white imp spells:freeze 14:55:25 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:27 <|amethyst> helpful 14:55:32 No, but it would show those players just what is the best L1 spell 14:55:35 ??monster bugs 14:55:35 I don't have a page labeled monster_bugs in my learndb. 14:55:39 ??freeze 14:55:39 freeze[1/3]: A level 1 spell found in a book of Frost that never misses its target, but only has a range of one. It ignores the target's AC, bypassing damage reduction. It also can slow cold-blooded enemies, making it useful all the way through Lair. There's some sort of semi-stun that paralyses for a fraction of a turn depending on power. 1d13 at max power. 14:55:50 <|amethyst> How about a green imp with sting? 14:55:56 white imp (165) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 6-16 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 412(cold:2-5) | 05demonic, 10doors, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(8), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 10 | Sp: sandblast (3d5) | Sz: little | Int: normal. 14:55:56 %??white imp spells:sandblast 14:56:24 tiny-green-death 14:56:33 bring back midges 14:56:37 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:56:38 <|amethyst> I guess it breaks the symmetry of imp = 4 hells though 14:56:43 le petite verde morte 14:56:52 give white imps a throw snowball attack 14:56:56 add poison hell then 14:57:04 |amethyst: that's why each hell could get two more 4.1 imps 14:57:07 or four more 14:57:15 alternatively, 4.1 imps 14:57:17 yes 14:57:24 <|amethyst> Dolby Surround Imps 14:57:25 no, i meant 4.1 hells 14:57:29 add .1 hells 14:57:34 What fun features did 4.1 imps have? 14:57:36 vestibule is .1 hell 14:57:38 <|amethyst> Subwoofers 14:57:44 oh i have not seen 4.1 hells in a real game for sure 14:58:04 |amethyst: Cheibriados for 4.1 maybe? 14:58:11 Or monster I should say 14:58:18 haha 14:58:19 <|amethyst> not bloody likely 14:58:25 patches welcome :> 14:58:26 <|amethyst> I can't even get it working with 0.8 :P 14:58:45 <|amethyst> And it used to work with 0.8 is the thing! 14:58:50 I've heard of "perma-XXX" and I want to try it 14:59:03 there's the problem of surviving until getting xxx 14:59:10 and then there's the problem of getting xxx 14:59:12 <|amethyst> but when I take the 0.8 branch of monster and the 0.8 branch of crawl and put them together, no go 14:59:33 "You made it...here just take as many X as you need" 14:59:43 |amethyst: hm i'd love to hack around that some, but recompiling my whole crawl all the time isn't so fun 15:00:01 is there anything i can do to avoid full recompiles on everything forever 15:00:28 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: keep a separate dir for it so you're not alternative compile flags with your normal compile 15:00:42 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:00:42 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: s/alternative/alternating/ 15:00:45 you could rewrite everything so it works better 15:00:59 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: for the copy of crawl I mean 15:01:04 yeah 15:01:08 i'll probably do that 15:01:09 fr: perma-XXX that comes with perma-stat drain 15:01:30 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: then you should just need to pull crawl and do a normal rebuild; the makefile should work 15:01:30 so better just wear =sustab x2 then 15:01:52 so when is sustab ring patch getting merged 15:02:12 this is a lot of disk space 15:03:21 i could bug another dev about it i guess... 15:03:30 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: the classic time/space tradeoff 15:03:35 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:44 indeed 15:04:31 -!- eith has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:04:58 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:49 03wheals02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-2418-gd2e94d3: Make some unrands more interesting, bring back two 10(18 hours ago, 10 files, 62+ 33-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2e94d32f2f9 15:05:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2419-g9631014: Additional unrand tweaks to Snakebite and Leech 10(18 hours ago, 3 files, 8+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9631014b7618 15:05:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2420-g8160722: Remove trove_artefacts 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 82-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=816072234f9c 15:06:05 sobs 15:06:07 |amethyst: oh did i ever tell you about my totally not trivial patch for `make test` (can you guess what the patch is so i don't have to submit it) 15:06:41 actually ... http://bpaste.net/show/33ExnnJeHzj0IL2P6lSD/ 15:07:02 MarvinPA: those changes sound good, thanks! 15:07:49 wow snakebite 15:07:55 i shall use thee 15:08:40 I will avenge trove_artefacts in a sprint or something 15:08:55 you should instead remove more troves 15:08:58 wink wink 15:08:59 "give all the uniques in uniquesprint different unrands" 15:09:06 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 15:09:19 I think my list moved from 27 to 35 since I last consciously looked at it 15:09:44 'time to nerf shoals:5 huts' 15:12:27 -!- Thomus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:18:57 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:23:18 -!- Ragnor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25:13 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:29:34 MarvinPA: Do you have any objections to a change where Frances gets rupert-style armour instead of a good_item robe: equal chance of leather, ring, scale, or chain mail? 15:30:21 I'm sure a lot of these unique armour decisions were somewhat arbitrary 15:30:49 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:30:58 -!- the_glow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:13 tenofswords: nerf in the sense of the player or the monsters? I'm thinking of your v:5 change. 15:31:54 Natasha (02h) | Spd: 10 (move: 80%) | HD: 3 | HP: 15 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(24) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 35 | Sp: magic dart (3d4), slow, sum.minor demon, 04esc:mephitic cloud | Sz: little | Int: high. 15:31:54 %??natasha 15:32:08 It's still hilarious to me that her glyph is 'h' 15:32:39 oh, in terms of the monsters, actually 15:32:53 the new stuff is nasty enough 15:33:37 at the very minimum, I was going to look at taking away ilsuiw's band if she's placed via shoal:5 vault considering she already comes with some classed merfolk 15:33:53 hm i kind of liked her being hard 15:34:03 (and an actual danger) 15:34:04 it's only, uh 15:34:51 -!- Fortescue|Home has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:00 !killratio 15:35:03 wins 100.0% of battles. 15:35:07 oops 15:35:09 ...a cut of 3 + random2(3) merfolk w:30 / mermaid w:15 / impaler / javelineer 15:35:11 !killratio jessica 15:35:14 jessica wins 6.555% of battles. 15:35:43 the vault still gives a guaranteed 2 impaler / javelineer and 2 aquamancer/impaler/javelineer 15:36:11 Those mobs would get pretty thick on shoals:5 with her around, I recall 15:36:26 yes, but what's the problem exactly? 15:36:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:51 maybe i should play some new shoals first 15:36:53 "new shoals monsters filling up generic shoals spawns makes shoals:5 possibly a bit past too hard"? 15:37:29 clearly should be telling considering my approach everywhere else 15:37:38 -!- jarpiain has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:49 !lm * forestdisp milestone=~"entered shoals:5" 15:37:49 No milestones for * (forestdisp milestone=~'entered shoals:5'). 15:37:58 -!- broquain1 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:02 br.end works there 15:38:03 -!- jarpiain is now known as Guest83260 15:38:15 -!- Bodrick_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:15 !lm * forestdisp br.end=shoals 15:38:16 119. [2014-02-03 21:15:06] Kae the Bludgeoner (L17 MiBe) reached level 5 of the Shoals on turn 46267. (Shoals:5) 15:38:19 -!- galehar_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:23 !lm * forestdisp br.end=shoals / lg:place=shoals:5 15:38:24 17/119 milestones for * (forestdisp br.end=shoals): N=17/119 (14.29%) 15:38:27 -!- kilobyte_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:32 !lm * recent br.end=shoals / lg:place=shoals:5 15:38:34 492/6100 milestones for * (recent br.end=shoals): N=492/6100 (8.07%) 15:38:42 small sample size anyhow 15:38:56 but same is true if you look across the branch 15:39:06 !lm * forestdisp br.enter=shoals / lg:place=shoals 15:39:07 49/187 milestones for * (forestdisp br.enter=shoals): N=49/187 (26.20%) 15:39:14 !lm * recent br.enter=shoals / lg:place=shoals 15:39:16 1372/8209 milestones for * (recent br.enter=shoals): N=1372/8209 (16.71%) 15:39:19 tenofswords: i think the very increased chance of classed merfolk before it is significant 15:39:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:39:30 the player is at least somewhat more used to dealing with them 15:39:34 -!- darktwinge is now known as Twinge 15:39:36 Forest dispersal is just killing our players! 15:39:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:39:57 well yes, shoals:1-4 didn't really exist before 15:40:38 -!- F-Glex has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:19 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 15:41:19 the more classed merfolk doesn't make me pause much in the context of the other jerks combined with few bands on earlier non-aquamancers 15:41:41 -!- Nivimer has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:06 huh, i thought that they always came with bands 15:42:08 -!- Danei has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:09 -!- Fortescue has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:09 -!- Mattias has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:10 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:10 -!- HappyPonyLand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:11 -!- jarpiain_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:11 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:11 -!- djanatyn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:12 -!- tgs3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:13 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:13 -!- ldlework has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:14 -!- broquaint has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:15 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:16 -!- kilobyte has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:17 -!- Bodrick has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:18 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:18 -!- _sk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:19 -!- galehar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:19 -!- yuastnav_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:20 -!- ekix has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:21 -!- 14WAB12SC has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:21 it seemed that way at lesat 15:42:22 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:22 -!- ldleworker is now known as ldlework 15:43:04 I'm guessing that DDOS attack hasn't stopped... 15:43:05 -!- tgs3 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:43:10 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:11 x_chance_in_y(you.depth, 5) 15:43:23 ok 15:43:33 -!- redmoss has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:43:34 the bands were also shrunk when plain merfolk themselves were buffed 15:43:49 -!- djanatyn has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 15:43:53 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:02 but in general I think having a shoals:1-4 warrants a little nerfing of shoals:5 15:44:23 -!- Grujah has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:45:11 -!- 14WAB12SC has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:46:45 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:47:31 also while nerfing things I should remove poison from orb and jumping spiders 15:47:49 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49:23 orb spiders have melee? 15:49:23 Did you still want to outright remove the bands of impalers/javelineers in not-shoals (depths in the current state)? 15:49:56 Or perhaps just make it x_chance_in_y(you.depth, branch.depth) everywhere 15:50:29 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:50:41 orb spider (06s) | Spd: 12 (spell: 200%) | HD: 5 | HP: 23-42 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 504(medium poison) | web sense, !sil | Res: 06magic(26) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 329 | Sp: o.destruction (9d7) | Sz: small | Int: insect. 15:50:41 %??orb_spider 15:50:47 heh, seems os 15:50:49 *so 15:51:09 fr: orb of poisonous destructionn 15:51:12 can you also remove at least one af_*_poison type 15:51:34 are sea snakes the only thing with nasty poison? 15:51:49 spiny worm (09w) | Spd: 8 | HD: 12 | HP: 46-84 | AC/EV: 10/6 | Dam: 3208(acid:7d3) | Res: 06magic(48), 08acid+++ | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 485 | Sz: Big | Int: plant. 15:51:49 %??spiny_worm 15:51:51 redback (05s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 9 | HP: 19-35 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 1804(strong poison) | web sense | Res: 06magic(24) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 220 | Sz: tiny | Int: insect. 15:51:51 %??redback 15:52:10 sea snake (11S) | Spd: 12 (swim: 40%) | HD: 10 | HP: 48-80 | AC/EV: 2/15 | Dam: 2404(strong poison) | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 741 | Sz: Medium | Int: reptile. 15:52:10 %??sea_snake 15:52:40 it's part of af_klown now too 15:52:50 all these ants 15:53:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 15:53:26 nasty poison is the one i'd keep incidentally 15:53:30 ??nasty poison 15:53:31 nasty poison[1/1]: Possessed by queen and soldier ants, queen bees, giant centipedes, emperor scorpions, and ghost moths. Inflicts two levels of poison on a successful hit. Can still be stopped by rPois, but otherwise always takes effect, unlike other kinds of poison. 15:53:47 really, soldier ants... 15:53:54 soldier ant (16a) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 21-47 | AC/EV: 8/10 | Dam: 1408(nasty poison) | Res: 06magic(24) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 157 | Sz: Medium | Int: insect. 15:53:54 %??soldier_ant 15:53:57 except reflavor to one level that checks rpois and one that doesn't 15:54:02 ghost moths dpn't really need it 15:54:16 ow wow, there are 4 poison levels? 15:54:22 unknown monster: "ant" 15:54:22 %??ant 15:54:27 unknown monster: "giant_ant" 15:54:27 %??giant_ant 15:54:34 worker 15:54:36 giant mite (04s) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 6-16 | AC/EV: 1/7 | Dam: 508(poison) | Res: 06magic(2) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 10 | Sz: little | Int: insect. 15:54:36 %??giant mite 15:54:36 yes there are four af_poison things 15:54:45 yeah, that's... 15:55:00 poison, medium poison, nasty poison, strong poison, and nasty is just more consistent than medium or something 15:55:32 hhaha, so nasty isn't even greater than strong, it's a "poison branch" 15:56:41 -!- Wahaha has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:16 the yred vault with the trapped human could stand to have no_monster_gen 15:57:30 or no_gen 15:57:32 :-( 15:58:08 I think I would be best comfortable with deterministic poison going in before doing any real changes to overall poison though 15:58:35 well we could remove all of poison then implement a good version of it 15:58:42 that'd be good too but how likely is it to happen 15:58:53 0.15 dream goals 15:58:57 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:58:59 That deterministic poison patch is supposed to be kind of that 15:59:04 !messages 15:59:05 No messages for TZer0. 15:59:33 I wonder how well said patch applies after ignite poison changes 16:00:19 Well, resolving conflicts is generally not that hard 16:00:35 tenofswords: how do you feel about 0008001 16:00:36 Not sure if ignite changed the way poison works though... 16:02:09 wheals: would not mind it 16:05:29 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:05:57 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:07:17 tenofswords: MarvinPA said he wouldn't either 16:08:18 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:25 -!- gnum_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:08:46 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 16:09:12 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:14 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:17 !bug 8001 16:12:17 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8001 16:13:51 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:14:22 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:56 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:23:08 -!- phalanx has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:24:01 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:24:29 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:27:50 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:28:42 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 16:31:47 -!- ivan`` has quit [Changing host] 16:31:47 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 16:34:47 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:37:03 Skillups are displaying twice onscreen by battaile 16:37:18 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:38:43 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:40:10 Would it be bad to make any aware enemy inside your halo target you instead of your allies? 16:40:24 I've heard some bad things about penance from Cleansing Flame on distracted creatures 16:40:33 mace of brilliance nerf 16:40:36 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:41:04 Monsters always focus on your divine radiance? 16:41:20 I wish I could remember the conclusion to those arguments about whether a morningstar or an eveninstar makes more flavour sense for mace of brilliance 16:41:30 Yeah that distracted thing is annoying, but then again what if the mosnter is blocked Basil? 16:41:38 how would it try to fight its way through 16:42:11 I think it hits whatever is blocking it, if it's not another monster hostile to you 16:42:27 and in zotdef they just hit whatever is blocking them. 16:42:36 Usually. 16:42:40 Hrm, does the '?' only trigger after a few hits? 16:42:58 As in, is it not directly connected to the monsters current mon->foe 16:43:00 I think it's whenever you are not their current target. 16:43:06 that's a guess though. 16:43:18 Yeah, you'd want to check out the monster AI logic there 16:43:34 but could be a good change if it doesn't make monsters just sit there in frustration 16:43:58 Not sure how monster->foe is related to whether they can hit things blocking them, exactly 16:46:35 -!- Krakhan has quit [Client Quit] 16:49:11 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:50:31 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:53:56 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:55:06 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:57:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:38 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:04 -!- Krakhan has quit [] 17:14:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:18:16 -!- Fortescue has joined ##crawl-dev 17:18:19 -!- Fortescue|Home has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:18:29 -!- Fortescue|Home has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:33 -!- st_ has quit [*.net *.split] 17:19:34 -!- Mattias has quit [*.net *.split] 17:21:18 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:22:36 -!- Fortescue has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:22:57 -!- Fortescue has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:03 -!- Fortescue|Home has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:32:42 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:47:18 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:47:43 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:49:23 -!- NekoRex has quit [Quit: "All the vain and ignorant will look up and shout 'Save us!', and I'll look down and whisper... 'Nyo.'"] 18:02:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:02:48 !tell tenofswords http://bpaste.net/raw/175173/ here's a thing, also i hope you feel bad for making me deal with targeters 18:02:48 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let tenofswords know. 18:03:20 MarvinPA: oh, I was going to work on a targeter on it for some point. Thanks! 18:03:27 heh, damn 18:03:47 well i think chances are pretty good that i've done something wrong there although it does seem to work correctly 18:03:54 Let people test it >_> 18:03:56 bad conscience, the universal currency in the devteam 18:04:05 That's the surefire way to bring up things you never thought of! 18:04:23 hm 18:04:24 !log . 18:04:25 1305. SGrunt, XL27 DECj, T:172646: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/SGrunt/morgue-SGrunt-20140204-000029.txt 18:05:09 Oh, I didn't even hit the farmer threshold? 18:05:11 Yay. 18:05:25 bad conscience, the universal currency in the devteam 18:05:27 sorry 18:05:28 ...sorry, I'm just organising my thoughts to give feedback on some of the new stuff <_< 18:05:58 anyway yeah it's just adapted from the existing beam targeter, if someone else can check that there's nothing totally wrong then i could push it i guess 18:06:11 I'll take a look, but just glancing at it it looks okay. 18:07:58 Grunt: any thoughts about mantis 8001? 18:08:33 -!- 5EXAAJQ29 is now known as neuwiz 18:08:44 %bug 8001 18:08:44 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8001 18:08:49 (I'm about to eat dinner, for the record.) 18:09:04 -!- neuwiz has quit [Changing host] 18:09:19 boo, all these devs claiming to have personal lives 18:09:31 * Grunt gestures. The great blast of fire engulfs wheals! 18:09:42 "Does this work properly? Who knows!" 18:09:42 tenofswords: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:09:46 * wheals completely resists. 18:09:53 every commit should include this line 18:10:10 tenofswords: I got tagged with Sap Magic as a conjurer on a Pan zig level. It was scary. 18:10:16 <3 18:11:08 (I would argue that collectively suppression + 0 mp used to be worse but 1s are a little meaner than s) 18:11:40 I was getting chased by Fiends and an ice storm pan lord :| 18:11:50 (I swear I saw at least four ice storm pan lords that game.) 18:12:14 !lm sgrunt zig.exit s=place 18:12:15 One milestone for sgrunt (zig.exit): Zig:18 18:12:21 huh first zig? 18:12:25 Yeah. 18:12:31 Guess why I was there. I bet you'll be wrong. :b 18:12:33 "good, a zig finally stopped being trivial for conjurers" 18:13:01 -!- bhaak has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:13:03 I assume it was because you wanted to try out all the parts of extended 18:13:12 NOPE 18:13:20 though the no money cost has changed it to part of a 3runer imo 18:13:37 MarvinPA: on closer inspection I still don't see any issues with this. 18:13:47 "screw zot, I want a tiny box with a killer klown and a curse skull" 18:14:06 MarvinPA: also thanks for catching that typo <_< 18:14:09 either that's a very bad sign or just a weird thing to read 18:14:47 (that is the "worst" I managed to have generate back when people were arguing about dipping into a zig to find rPois) 18:15:19 no oofs? 18:15:49 (btw it was very therapeutic - again - to Fire Storm curse skulls into oblivion) 18:16:05 ok so what was the reason? 18:16:28 I was getting statdrained into oblivion and had no means of stat recovery. 18:16:46 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 9248 | Sp: b.fire (3d40), malmutate, fireball (3d43) | Sz: little | Int: normal. 18:16:46 %??orb of fire 18:16:50 the hd pool method of zig floor generation blocks oofs on the first floor 18:17:03 * Grunt leaves for dinner. 18:17:38 Grunt: that's why you should commit the patch when you get back! 18:17:51 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:17:53 can just barely get one on zig:2, though 18:20:30 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 18:20:38 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:25:13 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:45 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:27:32 tenofswords: about hangedman_aviary 18:30:48 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:31:03 (oh no did i add to your list yet again now) 18:31:15 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:32:32 I forgot what interrupted me from my edit of all of mini_monsters.des 18:32:55 I was definitely ready and have notes for like twenty vaults here from two months ago 18:33:01 it was probably me 18:33:08 maybe my addition to iy 18:33:30 curse you all 18:34:01 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 18:38:07 OminousNom (L20 DsAM) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 481 failed. (Vaults:1) 18:38:33 !crashlog ominousnom 18:38:34 No milestones for ominousnom (crash). 18:38:35 tenofswords: also might want to look at the TAGS line in that vault 18:38:50 !crashlog ominousnom 18:38:51 No milestones for ominousnom (crash). 18:38:56 * Grunt thumbtwiddles. 18:39:00 !crashlog ominousnom sprint 18:39:01 No milestones for ominousnom (sprint crash). 18:39:01 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:39:20 !crashlog * 18:39:21 6201. OminousNom, XL20 DsAM, T:62829 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/OminousNom/crash-OminousNom-20140204-003804.txt 18:39:29 ok just takes a little time 18:39:32 yes 18:39:39 !crashlog ominousnom 18:39:40 1. OminousNom, XL20 DsAM, T:62829 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/OminousNom/crash-OminousNom-20140204-003804.txt 18:39:54 but I'm not gonna try to write that name 18:40:12 how many uniques always spawn in their own custom vault? (crazy Yuif ) 18:40:27 all of them 18:40:34 bonus question, how do I find that info quickly in the code? 18:40:35 oh 18:40:47 wait, i guess some vaults place uniques 18:41:09 !source dat/des/builder/uniques.des 18:41:09 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/uniques.des;hb=HEAD 18:41:41 yeah, that doesn't include those 18:42:36 So the non-technical answer I guess is just crazy Yuif 18:42:37 ah ok. so I could use Roxanne and crazy Yuif as an example 18:43:15 well, TRJ for instance 18:43:30 oh right 18:43:44 is it discouraged? or just not usually a good reason to do it? 18:44:10 well, there are certainly down sides 18:44:11 in which sense? 18:44:44 general vault design principles apply i guess 18:45:27 the "collective attempt" linked to on tenofswords' wiki page is hilarious 18:45:45 it reads like it was written by a schizophrenic man 18:48:10 again, "curse you all" 18:49:56 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:59 We have 28 races 18:55:36 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:40 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:51 -!- johlstei has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:15 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:15 in Natasha description: "But wait! there's an intelligence behind those eyes" 19:00:34 should that "There"? 19:01:28 s/that/that be/ 19:04:13 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:27 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:05:57 buppy: yes 19:07:33 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15:23 buppy: yes/quit 19:15:27 -!- dpeg_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:15:55 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:17:47 good quit 19:18:24 ??hilarious quits 19:18:24 hilarious quits[1/8]: !lg djroomba ktyp=quitting xl=27 1 -tv:<2 19:19:29 -!- Walker_Z has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:00 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:03 -!- Walker_Z is now known as WalkerBoh 19:23:03 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:24:06 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 19:26:05 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:36:28 But wait! Thar be intelligence behind those eyes. 19:36:44 !send gammafunk major destruction 19:36:45 Sending major destruction to gammafunk. 19:37:12 * gammafunk shrugs off the sticky flame. 19:37:35 !send gammafunk legendary destruction 19:37:36 Sending legendary destruction to gammafunk. 19:37:48 ??legendary_destruction 19:37:48 legendary destruction[1/1]: A deck type and tier, and a conjuration from {blood saint}s. The conjuration is random but very dangerous, and costs the caster some health: it can be fireball, LCS, orb of electrocution, {flash freeze}, orb of destruction (with tiny weight), or ghostly fireball (with halved weight). 19:37:53 * tenofswords watches gammafunk side-step the orb of destruction 19:38:22 The crystal spear misses gammafunk. 19:40:39 !fight monstrous blood saint v lich t:99 delay:10 19:41:59 !fight monstrous blood saint v ancient lich t:99 delay:10 19:43:03 can blood fountains finally go now with demonspawn btw? 19:43:17 !fight monstrous warmonger v ancient lich t:99 delay:10 19:43:22 ...actually, that's not a bad idea 19:43:28 on the list it goes 19:43:38 do any of those win against the lich? 19:43:49 warmonger looks p.good 19:44:43 a lich >>> blood saint > lich, a lich > warmonger 19:45:06 of course, to be fair... 19:45:34 !fight monstrous blood saint band v ancient lich, lich t:99 delay:10 19:46:08 !fight monstrous warmonger band v ancient lich, lich t:99 delay:10 19:46:10 A a lich comes into view. 19:46:34 formilich 19:46:42 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 19:46:51 !lg * fo status~~lich 19:46:52 3. kraphead the Executioner (L27 FoWr), worshipper of Makhleb, mangled by an Executioner (created by the effects of Hell) on Dis:7 (dis_st) on 2013-12-23 22:06:59, with 1008405 points after 163098 turns and 1d+14:11:54. 19:47:06 spells: shatter, orb of fragmentation, venom cocktail, virulence, poison arrow 19:47:25 olgreb's total ravaging 19:47:49 sandlich spells: sand blast 19:47:58 summon sandwich 19:48:35 orb of fragmentation? 19:51:44 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:58:12 -!- Guest62734 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:26 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:01:17 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2421-g4c75a1c: Tweak an Axe of Woe message 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c75a1cb041e 20:01:17 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2422-g3f81d65: Typo fix in Natasha description 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f81d65cb18e 20:04:23 void ugly_thing_to_very_ugly_thing(); <3 20:04:54 technically it wasn't a typo but yeah it doesn't fit with normal crawl language 20:06:14 Well it was a new sentence, and sentences have to start with upper-case letters 20:06:42 |amethyst how hard would it be to add sprint to experimental branches 20:06:44 need to write up a proposal about very ugly things getting multipliers on the raw damage of their elements based on having matching colours with nearby ugly things but ugly things can change colour on hit or something 20:06:57 dith changes sound broken/fun in sprint and I want to try it 20:07:16 so that very ugly things with rot and sticky flame can die 20:07:46 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:32 extremely ugly thing, incredibly ugly thing, uncannily ugly thing... 20:08:55 oh wait left out extraordinarily ugly thing 20:09:22 tiamat the ugly thing 20:09:51 almost entirely ugly thing! 20:10:09 is that after uncannily? 20:10:25 nobody remembers 20:10:30 combine slime creatures and ugly things 20:10:42 very titanic slime thing 20:12:48 gammafunk: not ugly thing 20:13:26 -!- F-Glex is now known as G-Flex 20:13:34 combine ugly things and hydras 20:13:45 combine ugly things and demonspawn 20:13:50 12-ugly hydra 20:13:53 very ugly monstrous warmonger 20:13:56 the ugliest thing 20:14:11 wait no, very ugly brown monstrous warmonger 20:14:41 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 20:15:18 combine ugly things and abominations 20:17:35 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2423-g4fb204c: Derive nonbase draconian AC, EV, MR from base types. 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 17+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fb204cdc717 20:17:38 !tell |amethyst Another monster patch: http://sprunge.us/eDbG 20:17:38 Grunt: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 20:19:22 now if only they could get the aux 20:19:42 doh 20:19:48 I knew I forgot something. 20:20:28 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:23:16 Grunt: Minor tweak to asterion and frances gear in mantis 7474; very short patch! 20:23:32 I've become a patch salesman 20:26:19 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 20:27:34 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:36:04 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:05 ...hm, I thought this was going to be difficult, but it looks like it isn't. 20:37:43 I told you it was a very short patch 20:37:54 I'm not talking about your patch; I'm doing something else right now :b 20:38:12 ....:) 20:40:30 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2424-gfa6e5f1: Nonbase draconians also inherit base aux attacks. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa6e5f1da119 20:40:30 03gammafunk02 {Grunt} 07* 0.14-a0-2425-g4d98f7e: Give Asterion a little better armour. 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d98f7e0bfbb 20:40:30 03gammafunk02 {Grunt} 07* 0.14-a0-2426-g82bc141: Give Frances an armour class upgrade. 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=82bc141d347b 20:40:32 Traveling door to door, selling patches. It's a tough racket. 20:40:48 wow, applied it twice 20:40:55 oh nm 20:40:59 I didn't even remember what was in it 20:41:28 Thanks...I'll not ask you again for twenty-seven years. 20:42:18 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:42:18 autoexplore is probably very bad at the travelling salesman problem 20:42:23 Tracking down spectral weapon bugs might take me that long anyhow 20:43:09 tenofswords: hmm, when you put it that way, it's no wonder autoexplore is so inefficient ... 20:43:34 of couse it has an even harder problem, in general 20:43:46 since incomplete information ... 20:44:42 -!- vulsuck has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:45:08 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all!] 20:47:18 I wonder if it'd be cheating for autoexplore to be able to "identify" map edges the way that the player roughly can 20:51:50 hey, didnt we have a discussion before about how the orc mines interconnectivity had been dumbed down? 20:52:09 i think it was a recent version that made it so that all sections are connected by normal stairs? 20:52:25 no more needing digging or trap doors to get to some of the hidden bubbles 20:52:55 trapdoors for bubbles is a thing I liked but it had to apparently be sacrificed to make sure that there's always some manner of escape 20:53:14 could we increase the amount of staircases per level at least? 20:53:29 say to 5? or 7? 20:53:33 just in orc mines 20:53:44 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:53:48 unlikely. 20:53:57 adjust the algorithm to make most bubbles tend to be smaller 20:54:18 unlikely why? 20:54:32 rast: that'd involve adding new features and stuff ... 20:54:53 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:57 SamB: it seems like it would involve adjusting a few numbers 20:55:12 is number of staircases hardcoded? 20:55:21 where a feature is what keeps the dungeon from being featureless 20:55:45 much more likely to achieve the same thing by using more hatches instead 20:55:50 !source GNGN_STONE_STAIRS_DOWN_I 20:55:51 Couldn't find GNGN_STONE_STAIRS_DOWN_I in the Crawl source tree 20:55:52 -!- Turgor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:55:56 fr abyssal mines with teleporters 20:55:56 !source DNGN_STONE_STAIRS_DOWN_I 20:55:57 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/stairs.cc;hb=HEAD#l555 20:56:03 mm "just adjust a few numbers" 20:56:21 Well, that's a bad link, but the point is there are enums like that 20:56:34 I II III 20:56:47 fr all races can dig like fo in Orc 20:56:47 and another 3 for the other direction 20:57:44 hmm, is Fo guarenteed to be able to get back *out* of Orc? 20:57:58 replace wargs with pet boring beetles 20:58:07 i'm not sure what's special about dwants there? 20:58:08 That sounds pretty boring. 20:58:16 !cdefine DNGN_STONE_STAIRS_DOWN_I 20:58:17 Couldn't find DNGN_STONE_STAIRS_DOWN_I in the Crawl source tree 20:58:24 only defines, not enums 20:58:47 !coffee 20:58:47 * Sequell hands gammafunk a pot of caffè macchiato, brewed by Mnoleg. 20:58:51 Now I'm awake 20:59:28 SamB: yes 20:59:39 there's always a pillar leading straight from orc:4 to D 20:59:40 I wouldn't drink that coffee, gammafunk. Who knows what stuff Mnoleg put in int... 20:59:43 s/int/it/ 20:59:46 just have to setup gdb to breakpoint like every spectral weapon function 20:59:53 so at the very least you can shaft down to orc:4 and then climb back out 20:59:59 I already have every bad mutation Grunt, it can only help! 21:00:23 -!- Sage has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:55 ontoclasm1: Can we just clone you already? So many monster tiles, so little time. 21:01:11 /nick ontoclasm2 21:01:18 gammafunk: looks like he's already started on that? 21:01:18 i'm already at 86% clone degradation 21:01:36 ontoclasm is engulfed in seething chaos. ontoclasm is duplicated! 21:01:37 ??ontoclasm[2] 21:01:37 ontoclasm[2/12]: !learn edit ontoclasm[2] s|.*| learn add ontoclasm ontoclasm[2/2]: _ontoclasm_: The ontoclasms merge to form a Titanic Ontoclasm! 21:02:01 am now imagining the vertical version of serial vaults, am shuddering 21:02:02 lol 21:02:12 what the ... 21:03:03 I wonder if Bloax likes drawing cats more than people 21:03:15 !tell Bloax Do you like drawing cats more than people? 21:03:16 gammafunk: OK, I'll let bloax know. 21:03:28 cattes 21:03:38 Bloax needs to at least make proper demonspawn job tiles <_< 21:03:43 ...if not demonspawn in general! 21:04:00 Tiles players won't get to Pan anyway 21:04:04 demonzpawn 21:04:12 are you crazy, tiles are the only people doing pan 21:04:31 Hey, I conquered Pan earlier and I'm not a tiles player <_< 21:04:42 yeah basically every tiles player goes straight for firestorm/necromut 21:04:46 I often do pan, also not a tiles player 21:04:47 like, every game 21:05:16 * Grunt snickers uncontrollably. 21:05:23 ontoclasm1: guess what my general tactics in Pan were <_< 21:05:37 !lg SGrunt nrune=15 21:05:38 1. SGrunt the Annihilator (L27 DECj), worshipper of Vehumet, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-02-04 00:00:29, with 9903990 points after 172646 turns and 13:45:07. 21:05:42 ah 21:06:01 Wasn't FE, at least! 21:06:02 i think i got a dude to know firestorm, like, once 21:06:12 gammafunk: I actually used mainly IOOD in Pan <_< 21:06:17 then died ingnominiously 21:06:21 quaffed brilliance to learn it? 21:06:31 Haha. 21:06:36 Actually, to be fair, there are a number of tiles greaterplayers (probably more than there are console greaterplayers), and those tend to not do that. 21:06:53 Grunt: Ah, so the S stands for Jazzimus? 21:06:57 !lg @greaterplayers s=name / tiles ?:N>=10 21:06:58 8593/14250 games for @greaterplayers: 1997/1999x araganzar [99.90%], 1714/1714x HilariousDeathArtist [100.00%], 1365/1365x bmfx [100.00%], 1067/1067x Cheibrodos [100.00%], 770/771x bart [99.87%], 699/700x Wahaha [99.86%], 358/358x dck [100.00%], 321/389x Medar [82.52%], 120/277x Basil [43.32%], 119/121x ackack [98.35%], 53/2235x ophanim [2.37%], 10/3254x jeanjacques [0.31%] 21:07:03 this is all getting away from the real solution 21:07:05 !lg @greaterplayers s=name / tiles ?:N<10 21:07:06 28/61709 games for @greaterplayers: 5/8655x elynae [0.06%], 5/324x Vizer [1.54%], 4/1239x Pseudonut [0.32%], 3/1708x pivotal [0.18%], 3/1264x SGrunt [0.24%], 2/5925x NyaaKitty [0.03%], 2/2674x johnnyzero [0.07%], 1/2837x MarvinPA [0.04%], 1/3375x surr [0.03%], 1/1622x WalkerBoh [0.06%], 1/1305x eeviac [0.08%], 0/583x ebarrett [0.00%], 0/1122x simm [0.00%], 0/1169x ToastyP [0.00%], 0/1213x hyperbol... 21:07:14 which is to make demonspawn all octopodes instead so bloax will tile them 21:07:21 (that number is a lie in my case! cszo counted all games as tiles at first!!) 21:08:13 but octopodes aren't cats... 21:08:13 What is ?:N again? 21:08:22 he tiles octopodes too 21:08:31 Make them octocats 21:08:35 also if bloax likes drawing cats so much he should have made a natasha tile by now :9 21:08:38 actually he tiles any weird animals clearly said animals should be the new bases 21:08:40 "only count names where the number of hits, N, is..." 21:08:49 (so "N>10" there means "more than ten tiles games") 21:09:00 the tiles taint is strong 21:09:08 Your tiles feel tained. 21:09:09 *tainted 21:10:05 and don't forget! 21:10:06 !hs * 21:10:09 2890238. Sapher the Genius of the Arcane (L26 NaWz), worshipper of Sif Muna, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2012-10-05 09:05:14, with 65369553 points after 21895 turns and 15:06:14. 21:10:18 * gammafunk bows to his god... 21:10:28 !hs * x=tiles 21:10:30 2890239. [tiles=true] Sapher the Genius of the Arcane (L26 NaWz), worshipper of Sif Muna, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2012-10-05 09:05:14, with 65369553 points after 21895 turns and 15:06:14. 21:10:34 o_o 21:10:37 !hs * x=tiles -2 21:10:38 2890238/2890239. [tiles=true] Sapher the Demonologist (L25 DEWz), worshipper of Sif Muna, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2012-09-23 13:43:10, with 57282634 points after 25058 turns and 22:29:01. 21:10:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:10:40 !hs * x=tiles -3 21:10:42 2890237/2890239. [tiles=false] elliptic the Demonologist (L23 MuSu), worshipper of Sif Muna, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2012-09-13 19:39:50, with 52436210 points after 27371 turns and 8:00:10. 21:10:45 !hs * x=tiles -4 21:10:46 sapher is terrifying 21:10:47 !hs * x=tiles -5 21:10:49 2890236/2890239. [tiles=true] Yermak the Ninja (L22 SpAs), worshipper of Dithmengos, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-01-18 01:19:16, with 48050858 points after 29929 turns and 8:16:23. 21:10:49 2890235/2890239. [tiles=true] Fusentrap the Impregnable (L24 DDFi), worshipper of Makhleb, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2013-12-02 02:36:33, with 44646023 points after 32360 turns and 11:14:54. 21:11:00 wow, Yermak is tiles?! 21:11:01 oh guess that makes sense 21:11:05 he spectates often 21:11:51 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:17:01 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:20:01 -!- phalanx has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:21:05 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:28:31 Grunt: Do grand avatars only move by the blinking i see in _grand_avatar_act? 21:30:52 Actually, appears they do use BEH_SEEK 21:37:09 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 21:37:33 -!- knaveightt has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 21:42:22 -!- Arkaniad_ has quit [Client Quit] 21:42:45 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:46:36 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:47:42 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:49:48 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:52:29 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:53:20 gammafunk: you missed MPA shadow-stabbing Asterion just now <3 21:53:45 warring developer feature fights 21:54:05 1fight Asterion v Natasha 21:56:17 do demonspawn count as mine or yours 21:56:30 They're your design and my implementation. 21:56:32 Joint effort? 21:56:38 partnership 21:56:41 More yours than mine <_< 22:00:14 -!- tenofswords has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:22 -!- nonethousand has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:05:09 Next: a vault co-designed by Grunt and tenofswords 22:05:14 <_< 22:05:31 -!- N78291 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:39 !lg * killer=asterion 22:05:40 1. BimmyLee the Impaler (L15 DsGl), worshipper of Okawaru, blasted by Asterion (bolt of lightning) on D:15 on 2014-02-03 14:28:36, with 86479 points after 30535 turns and 3:36:53. 22:05:47 just the one... 22:05:57 Was wand of frost slowing hydras an intended change? 22:06:11 I was wondering if hydra slowing was new.... 22:06:17 hydra (09D) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 13 | HP: 54-90 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 18 per head | amphibious, cold-blooded, regen | Res: 06magic(52), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 976 | Sz: Big | Int: reptile. 22:06:17 %??hydra 22:06:26 is cold-blooded new for them? 22:06:32 they have been cold blooded for a while 22:06:45 hrm, well then cold attacks should slow them 22:06:52 or is it conditional on damage somehow? 22:07:03 oh, right, it's not all cold attacks 22:07:03 it was freezing brand and freeze spell previously 22:07:06 right 22:07:10 %git :/[sS]low 22:07:10 07wheals02 {MarvinPA} * 0.14-a0-2418-gd2e94d3: Make some unrands more interesting, bring back two 10(25 hours ago, 10 files, 62+ 33-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2e94d32f2f9 22:07:20 %git :/[cC]old- 22:07:22 07DracoOmega02 {dolorous} * 0.12-b1-5-gf392f9c: Fix tracers considering cold-vulnerable monsters as immune to hibernation 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f392f9cdcba8 22:07:34 %git :/[cC]old-b 22:07:35 07kilobyte02 * 0.12-a0-1398-g609867c: Make player draconians cold-blooded. 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 6 files, 21+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=609867cb54e7 22:07:59 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:08:15 looks like maybe not intended? 22:09:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:54 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11:04 yeah also works with /cold 22:11:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:11:19 seems like it probably should be restricted to the brand/freeze spell 22:11:27 Does refrig also slow cold-blooded things? 22:11:33 I think so. 22:11:40 1fight Fannar v base draconian band 22:12:31 -!- Ruble has quit [] 22:12:38 yeah it does 22:13:20 if these things do get removed making refrig continue to would be cool 22:13:29 %git :/melt monster icemail 22:13:30 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2362-g25c0530: Let beams melt monster icemail / Ozocubu's properly. 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=25c053032985 22:13:33 I think that is the cause 22:13:36 it's already pretty similar to freeze mechanically and flavourwise 22:14:25 did you nerf trog gifts when I wasn't looking 22:15:10 %git :/[cC]lustering 22:15:13 07Matthew_Cline02 * 0.4-a0-3294-g6d752d6: Include secret doors in door-clustering (gates) when opening doors. In otherwords, if there's a line of secret doors with just one non-secret closed door among them and the non-secret door is opened, open up all the secret doors. 10(6 years ago, 3 files, 31+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d752d6fba72 22:15:50 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 22:17:16 -!- montyb has quit [Quit: montyb] 22:17:52 aha, Grunt bug 22:18:09 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:14 gammafunk: ? 22:18:29 see what N78291 said above? 22:18:37 hydras are getting slowed by /frost and /cold 22:18:49 and he thinks it's your monster ozo commit 22:18:52 which looks plausible 22:19:47 hrm, suppose the spell versions also ... 22:20:44 To be fair, I'd expect the bug is that they *didn't* slow hydras before. 22:20:46 yeah, also happening with spell versions 22:20:47 Let me check something. 22:21:31 no, I think that's intentional since the freeze brand/spell are melee range, and refrige is kind of a special case 22:23:15 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.14-a0-2427-gfcb018f: Asterion Tile 10(89 seconds ago, 4 files, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcb018f3d6a2 22:23:26 what's this... 22:23:43 haha, I love it 22:24:01 ...okay, I thought getting hit by frost/cold slowed player draconians, but it doesn't. 22:24:09 his cloak goes well with the demon weapons he gets 22:24:31 I love his hunched over pose 22:24:41 It's from that tile that was made way before? 22:25:11 yeah and glowy makhleb eyes, thanks 22:25:26 yeah, 22:25:31 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4032 22:25:34 is where i stole it from 22:25:55 I first saw that tile and thought it was a bit weird, but it is nice pose in retrospect 22:26:19 yeah, it mainly needed better shading and contrasting bits 22:27:00 I wish I could art like Grunt 22:27:09 Maybe I should try drawing 22:27:15 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:27:17 doooo it 22:27:29 "art" 22:27:37 Hey, your tiles are getting better imo! 22:27:53 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2428-gf3bcadf: Don't let cold beams slow hydras (78291). 10(84 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3bcadf8f14a 22:27:56 I'm actually pretty happy with how some of the base demonspawn turned out. 22:28:04 Yeah, some don't really need to change 22:28:13 they look pretty good to me 22:28:17 The gelid and infernal demonspawn turned out the best :) 22:29:03 the mina thing i would say about the ds tiles would be to watch out for pillow shading 22:29:06 main* 22:29:31 other than that they look great 22:30:02 (You open the shading like a pillowcase!!!) 22:30:35 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:39 * ontoclasm1 steps into the shading's shadow. 22:31:39 -!- Goncyn has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:32:20 &M 22:32:25 oop 22:32:32 Create which monster? 22:32:41 ...er, rather, 22:32:46 Enter monster name (or MONS spec): 22:33:13 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:33:14 ...All 22:33:29 I wonder if anyone uses that create monster by number thing 22:33:37 I doubt it. 22:33:41 asterion;demon blade unrand:leech 22:33:53 heh 22:34:03 also, typo in his description 22:34:10 kindgom 22:34:15 get out 22:34:17 Asterion comes into view. He is wielding the +13,+1 demon blade "Leech" {vamp, rN+ EV-1 Str-1 Dex-1 Int-1}. 22:34:20 ~~ 22:34:32 dang 22:34:35 i'll fix it 22:34:36 how did spell check miss that 22:35:16 uh 22:35:16 %git :/eech 22:35:16 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-2419-g9631014: Additional unrand tweaks to Snakebite and Leech 10(25 hours ago, 3 files, 8+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9631014b7618 22:35:47 N78291: i think i saw tenofswords use it 22:35:55 it might have been item by number though 22:36:16 scary 22:36:36 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.14-a0-2429-g4d8aab6: Fix an Asterion typo 10(55 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d8aab60e2ca 22:37:49 ontoclasm1: You added a BOM 22:38:03 o_O? 22:38:19 ah crap 22:38:40 A BOM 22:38:51 ontoclasm1...set us up the BOM? 22:38:57 stupid windows 22:38:59 god fucking dammit 22:39:04 Clearly name the commit "defuse a BOM" 22:39:05 <_< 22:39:05 gammafunk: i was typing that 22:39:24 wheals: move zig! you know what you doing! 22:40:03 I was going to make a Natasha tile based on one of the player Fe tiles and wearing a wizard hat. 22:40:09 Then I remembered that Fe can't wear hats <_< 22:40:15 does the ingame description for zig entrances still quote that 22:40:17 Maybe I'll give her a mockup of Boris' crown! 22:40:23 I think so, yes 22:40:42 Grunt: felids can't wear crowns either! 22:40:46 Grunt: has the hat in its mouth 22:40:52 wheals: it's obviously a very small crown!!! 22:40:54 >_> 22:41:08 and then a new unrand: the crown of Natasha? 22:41:11 fr felids can wear dyrovepreva 22:41:20 god i hope i spelled that right 22:41:23 Here: Natasha, carrying the -1,+4 dagger "Morg" {pain, MR+ Int+5} 22:41:28 ??dyrovepreva 22:41:29 crown of dyrovepreva[1/1]: +3 unrandart hat { Int+2 rElec sInv hunger }. "jewelled bronze crown". A large crown of dull bronze, set with a dazzling array of gemstones. 22:41:30 <3 22:41:31 (in mouth) 22:41:32 gammafunk: the collar 22:41:41 N78291: yes, brilliant 22:41:50 ...wow, that *is* brilliant <3 22:41:54 it goes in the ring slot 22:41:56 fr: let felids wear crowns 22:42:03 *hats 22:42:44 macabre head necklace 22:42:56 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [] 22:43:11 ontoclasm1: Asterion should be able to show a shield too; do you want me to massage the code to allow for it? 22:43:20 yeah, go for it 22:43:35 his arm's not in the right place but it'll be covered by the shield so it'll be fine 22:43:41 It's a large shield anyway, so. 22:45:43 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:47:09 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2430-g48f466c: Show shields on Asterion in tiles. 10(46 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=48f466c3fb9f 22:48:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:48:51 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:39 ...hm, I just had a mental image of the rest of a Natasha tile, and probably won't be able to draw it <_< 22:55:43 hm, does the descript database have to be updated on the server side? the new spells aren't listed on ?/s even though they have an entry 22:56:16 N78291: which spell? 22:56:33 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.14-a0-2431-g1d11b85: Drop the BOM 10(25 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d11b85fce16 22:56:36 mark still gives only sentinel's mark 22:56:48 I tried flash freeze recently and had no results 22:57:01 try "black mark" i guess 22:57:08 there are so many lookup bugs in ?/ code 22:57:19 random question 22:57:20 black mark doesn't find anything 22:57:23 what's the plan with Dj 22:57:26 hmm 22:57:36 odd 22:57:37 neither does Black Mark, if case matters 22:57:39 wait I asked that pretty recently duh 22:57:39 it works in local tiles 22:57:47 not webtiles 23:00:26 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:00:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:02:04 Lightli: well i guess he'll probably spin some tunes 23:02:26 he'll? 23:02:49 or she, whatever 23:04:09 I think the joke went over my head 23:07:43 Lightli: DJ 23:07:52 oh 23:07:54 derp 23:10:06 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:13:30 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:15:20 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:09 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:22:10 hey guys, who wants to improve crawl performance 23:22:41 by getting rid of this: 23:22:43 ??major destruction[2 23:22:44 major destruction[2/3]: Costs 0-1 piety, with power equal to [ (Invo * 3) + 2d(1 + Invo) ], or more simply put, between 3x and 5x your Invocation skill, tending toward 4x. 23:23:02 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:23:44 Grunt: should undead be able to enter shadow form? 23:24:42 turning into a bunch of shadows seems like something a vampire would be able to do, not sure if blocking it was deliberate or just a consequence of forms being blocked generally 23:25:32 I have some newbie dev questions if anyone has a couple minutes. I'm trying to understand how to use 'make_item_for_monster()' in mon-gear.cc. 23:26:07 I'm screwing around with uniques and I tried to copy Gastronok's 'give hat' code. 23:26:39 copying the code in the 'else' part (the non-ponderousness') but in-game the unique doesn't ever get a hat 23:27:18 i think Gastro might be special cased to wear hats 23:27:19 does it have the armor hackery 23:27:23 http://pastebin.com/qPwczq5j 23:27:25 (in monster.cc) 23:27:27 oh 23:27:29 I bet not 23:27:36 check for gastronok there as well 23:27:39 ty 23:28:15 monsters wear hats in the body armour slot or something so you probably have to do something else 23:29:02 -!- kait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29:05 for other suck hacks, nikola's shield would be an example of body armor plus one aux slot 23:29:10 monster equip code gives me nightmares 23:29:16 -!- thedefinite has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/] 23:29:29 it's an interesting experience trying to hook everything up 23:29:32 it's possible it doesn't pick it up so it gets vetoes, yeah 23:29:39 like harold's nets! 23:29:53 does he now wear his nets proudly 23:30:07 there's a lot of good examples in the various unique patches. but this sounds pretty arcane 23:32:59 " Here: Helen wearing a hat" woo 23:33:05 heh, mons_helen 23:33:07 of troy? 23:33:20 nope 23:33:30 dunno if the name will stay or not 23:33:52 next question: is there a way to make a +1 ring of strength? 23:34:04 yeah, use the plus 23:34:12 I think it's just item.plus 23:34:34 but see examples in the mon-gear code as well 23:34:36 I'm still trying to understand how to use the make_item_for_monster() command 23:34:43 from a vault, `ring of strength plus:1 ident:all` 23:35:00 or i guess that identifies curse status, meh 23:35:13 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:35:17 yeah, but if he's creating the unique, it would be in mon-gear 23:35:22 see the example for fannar 23:35:29 make_item_for_monster(mon, OBJ_JEWELLERY, RING_PROTECTION, 1, MAKE_ITEM_NO_RACE, 0, 0); 23:35:34 yea, that's where I copied this from 23:35:55 oh you want a ring of strength 23:36:00 you'd have to make it a randart 23:36:06 well, str, protect, dex, evasion, etc 23:36:07 or give her gauntlets 23:36:15 with str brand 23:36:16 was just wondering how to make a consistently crappy ring 23:36:25 but not cursed 23:36:30 ring of positive energy :P 23:36:41 make_item(crappy) 23:36:57 johnstein: you'd make a randart of some base type you wanted 23:37:07 I tried MAKE_CRAPPY_ITEM but that didn't work 23:37:08 and just set the artp attribs 23:37:36 why would you want to make a crappy ring though 23:37:56 for a shit golem unique 23:37:56 make_item_randart is the function you'd use 23:38:05 octopode berserker unique, his poor rings fuel his rage 23:38:21 ring of the octopus baron 23:38:31 ring of the octopus peasant! 23:38:40 ChrisOelmueller: yea, was playing around with an Op unique. wanted to give her rings, but didn't want to make her exploitable 23:38:42 I'm still planning a ringmaster vault define for a lair portal vault, but it kind of depends on the final form of the lair branches 23:39:00 and the lair branches aren't even in their final form 23:39:04 maybe you could have solved the problem by checking whether the monster's genus was octopode then 23:39:28 gammafunk: circus portal vault? it should have a chance to have nellie (behind glass) 23:39:42 hehe, ok not "ringmaster" ...octopode ...jeweler? 23:39:53 oh 23:39:59 tenofswords will probably tell me to make depths vaults anyhow 23:40:05 er portals 23:40:13 heh, i thought that a circus would work well for a lair portal 23:40:25 silversmith clearly 23:40:26 it's kind of thing already in zot 23:40:35 there's that circus vault 23:40:43 bananas, klowns, elephants 23:41:24 huh, i always dive zot 23:41:43 maybe "the realm of zot" is actually just a terrible hallucination driven by the player's childhood fear of the circus 23:42:05 really more wizlabs would be good too 23:42:24 name the octopode naniwa and make jewellery shops all around her 23:42:36 there's actually nothing behind the gate, it's just that the "heavy smoke" contains almost-lethal concentrations of peyote 23:42:57 !tell tenofswords wondering whether updating a certain wizlab's monster sets is on The List already 23:42:58 ChrisOelmueller: OK, I'll let tenofswords know. 23:43:01 maybe the realm of zot is like that thing in spy kids 23:44:48 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-2431-g1d11b85 (34) 23:48:27 ??the_list 23:48:27 I don't have a page labeled the_list in my learndb. 23:48:29 dang 23:50:30 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:51:20 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:51:54 ...this needs a lot more work (probably beyond my ability), but this is the sort of thing I had in mind: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5494313/natasha.png 23:52:21 MarvinPA: that sounds like a Vp thing. 23:56:01 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:58:26 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]