00:01:53 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:02:02 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:04:10 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2360-g192af81 (34) 00:04:48 oh..that makes sense 00:05:23 usually when I encounter a bug like that my first thought is "I'm so good at this game" and I refuse to entertain the idea that it's a bug 00:06:32 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-2360-g192af81 (34) 00:07:25 -!- OCTOTROGjr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:48 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:20 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:11:01 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:12:46 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:13:20 -!- OCTOTROGjr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:17:39 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2360-g192af81 (34) 00:28:29 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:29:04 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 00:30:51 Patch to add current attack delay to description of currently wielded weapon by Siegurt 00:31:44 -!- OCTOTROGjr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:19 :( 00:34:27 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:35:21 -!- bschlief has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:40:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:41:20 we should attack a spreadsheet link to the weapon description 00:41:26 players click it, open excel 00:41:31 get the full breakdown 00:41:52 piecharts, formulas, graphs, the works 00:42:10 that'd only be necessary if galehar manages to get his stuff in 00:42:32 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2360-g192af81 00:42:35 so here's hope it won't happen like that 00:42:39 heh, not a fan of the min delay reform? 00:42:45 i'm not, no 00:49:08 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:49:55 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 00:54:16 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 01:00:08 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:01:22 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-2359-g1e808ab (34) 01:02:05 -!- Adder_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:03:14 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:04:49 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:05:52 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:15 * SamB wonders why gammafunk expects all users to have excel ... 01:20:29 it's a pretty useful program 01:28:29 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:35:49 -!- minmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:35:52 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:37:41 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:38:33 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:08 If users don't have excel, then we'll just have to implement a spreadsheet within crawl 01:39:14 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:42:02 -!- kait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54:22 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:55:10 For potion.cc at line 568, is there a reason why using POT_SPEED specifically checks if the effect is from a potion before checking if you know you have stasis 01:55:21 (with regards to aborting without using a turn) 01:56:48 because haste spell does not abort if you are somehow under stasis. 01:58:58 Can that path trigger from chaos effects? 01:59:36 Maybe? 01:59:49 I was looking at Xom code since I know that he gifts speed 01:59:57 or rather, speed effect 02:01:39 and it seems that he uses 'was_known = false' in potion_effect(), and case POT_SPEED conveniently skips the stasis check if was_known == false. 02:01:53 so it should contaminate you properly and emit a piercing whistle 02:02:49 After I finish compiling (~3 min), I'll check to see if chaos effects also pass in was_known = false 02:03:13 and if that is the case, then it should work correctly in those cases (not sure if there are any other cases I should be aware of). 02:03:21 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:04:06 -!- advil has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 02:07:59 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:09:40 -!- maahes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:11:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:12:42 Basil: Grep potion_effect to see where all instances can arise 02:13:02 I can see that fountains and decks can induce speed potion effect 02:13:08 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 02:13:29 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:17:08 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2360-g192af81 (34) 02:20:17 (What would be a good symbol to preface on-unequip effects like contam? + and * already taken.) 02:21:09 +*X 02:21:13 / 02:22:04 how about ! 02:22:46 or go two chars 02:22:53 :O 02:23:09 Would ! have a chance of accidentally triggering inscription effects? 02:23:52 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:55 Also, Xcontam sounds good somehow. 02:23:56 vamp, contam, are those it? 02:24:01 Disto. 02:24:12 Also, isn't vamp on wield? 02:24:16 Not unwield? 02:24:17 yeah !d is don't drop 02:24:51 Also, the entire reason I'm bringing this up is because I thought of a terrible unrand idea and want to write it correctly on the wiki. 02:26:05 & since demons are bad 02:26:10 This sounds amusing 02:26:12 How terrible? 02:26:25 "Forged in the depths of hell" terrible 02:26:42 food-eating harpies terrible 02:28:42 I don't really know yet. Busy getting caught on description after the idea is done. 02:29:59 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:31:48 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: g'bug!] 02:37:49 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:55 does it have a custom basetype 02:40:41 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 02:41:59 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:42:50 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:44:37 Giant's Slingshot 02:45:40 DrKe (L20 DDFE) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1444: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Shoals:5) 02:47:37 hmm 02:47:45 Not-ending the player's turn seems hard in beam.cc 02:53:09 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:54:42 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:55:01 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:58:38 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:43 absolutego: Apologies, latest edit on the wiki. 03:03:55 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:05:00 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:05:39 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:06:19 so i have probably a stupid design idea 03:06:28 re: summoners and whatever else 03:06:35 monsters people don't like 03:14:59 dtom (L20 VSFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1444: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Shoals:5) 03:20:56 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [] 03:21:35 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:25:52 chofbri (L17 HEHu) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1444: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Shoals:5) 03:26:14 bogus! 03:30:57 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: squee!] 03:31:48 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:37:44 -!- honeybadger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:52:38 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:59:24 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 03:59:59 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:06:32 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:30:50 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:31:07 -!- William has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:38:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:50:56 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:56:30 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:01:15 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:04:00 -!- Hailey has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 05:08:52 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:16:53 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:21:04 -!- alefury has quit [] 05:29:48 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:31:28 -!- Amy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:32:53 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:33:14 -!- tupper has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 05:35:59 -!- cptwinky has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:37:42 -!- tupper has quit [Client Quit] 05:37:47 -!- Amy has quit [Quit: ₪₪₪-₪₪₪-₪₪-₪₪₪] 05:41:28 -!- Morg0th has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:43:12 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:55 -!- ground4 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:03:49 -!- ground4 has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:13:38 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:14:12 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:07 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:15:51 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:22:18 -!- thomus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:31:37 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:34:26 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:35:16 -!- yalue has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:39 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:42:45 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:46:59 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:48:49 -!- jarpiain has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:50:51 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 06:52:53 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:53:12 -!- robotcentaur has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:25 I have a question if anyone is on and knows the draconian sprites. Before I bug it -- I just changed into a pale steam dragon and he has a light blue face and shoulder but the rest of the body looks like yellow/green pixel overalls... pallete bug? 07:09:53 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:39 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 07:16:44 -!- jarpiain has joined ##crawl-dev 07:17:07 -!- jarpiain is now known as Guest63294 07:23:39 -!- elderman has joined ##crawl-dev 07:28:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 07:29:34 Hello. I'm building the most recent master (for the first time in a while) and am getting this error: 07:29:42 crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/encompass.des:155: can't place dummy monster: "dragon" 07:30:05 did you not update the vaults? 07:30:13 perhaps 07:30:32 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:30:48 Not sure I know how to do that, was it in the Install instructions? 07:31:52 it should have been done automatically if you're using git 07:32:19 I'm using git 07:32:38 maybe make clean first? 07:33:17 Yeah, it's good advice, but I've already tried that. 07:33:38 have you ever edited them? 07:33:48 no, I don't think so 07:33:56 you could also try git reset --hard origin/master 07:34:01 right 07:34:06 I'll try that 07:34:44 Interesting "HEAD is now at 192af81 Fix a minmax error with Blink Allies Encircling." 07:34:53 and rebuilding 07:39:27 -!- notgreentea is now known as somethinggreen 07:42:55 Yes, crawl is still crashing when I start it up with the same error. 07:43:12 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:43:51 Any other ideas? 07:46:21 -!- robotcentaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:50:20 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 07:53:35 elderman: Do git status and see if you have extra files lying around 07:53:56 I don't have encompass.des 07:54:58 %git 2b1dc5a 07:55:30 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1892-g2b1dc5a: Move encompass.des to branch/depths_ 10(2 weeks ago, 2 files, 1744+ 1744-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b1dc5aa41db 07:55:50 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 08:03:28 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:12:35 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:13:58 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:14:09 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:15:10 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:37 -!- Grujah has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:16:45 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:16:48 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25:52 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:30:50 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:32:27 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:36:41 -!- MellissaTheBest_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:37:45 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:41:02 Well, there are changed files, all in contribs, but I can't recall having added them 08:43:13 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:29 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:46:10 Maybe just try a new clone... 08:46:25 Yeah, I think I will 08:46:37 All I can tell you that crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/encompass.des shouldn't exist anymore 08:46:41 +is 08:47:21 and I have a lot of other untracked files 08:48:46 I'll just get it all again like new from gitorious 08:53:12 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 08:56:18 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:59:21 elderman: I'm not an expert but I've run into that issue 09:00:03 for me it happened when a monster was removed or renamed and my dat/des folders didn't get updated 09:00:30 in my case, I wasn't copying those folders to where my webtiles server could see them 09:00:30 and you just fixed it by cloning the git repository again? 09:00:31 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:34 no 09:00:53 I mean, that may work. I'm often winging it 09:01:04 I'm always winging it 09:01:12 but that's not what I had to do in my case 09:01:15 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:01:33 how are you running te executable? locally? via a webtiles server? 09:01:44 s/te/the 09:01:59 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 09:02:22 locally : I just clone the repository, build the master branch, and update periodically 09:02:29 sometimes this means I can help catch a bug 09:03:00 that issue is caused by stale des cache 09:03:05 and it's resolved by removing the cache 09:03:47 Anyone feel it would be useful for !source to pull up files technically outside of the crawl-ref/source dir (e.g. crawl-ref/docs and crawl-ref/settings)? 09:04:07 yea, that's essentially how I fixed it. in my case the stale cache was a result of me not installing the new versions correctly 09:05:24 Zaba: what is the mechanism by which the cache gets stale in a basic cloned environment where you are just git pulling? 09:05:24 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:36 also, why do we even have the crawl-ref dir? who can I blame for that 09:06:16 gammafunk, historical reasons 09:06:25 oh, do tell! 09:08:01 johnstein, it just doesn't always detect when the cache needs to be updated. You can remove saves/des to force regeneration. 09:08:31 gammafunk, apparently it was a good idea in the svn repository layout 09:08:48 gammafunk, since it goes back to aa88fdd8c6ad2da 09:09:00 and where's the cache? 09:09:04 elderman, saves/des 09:09:11 oops, yes just noticed you'd said 09:09:56 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:05 gammafunk, and well, nobody bothered to get rid of it when migrating to git, and at this point it would just butcher the history pointlessly. 09:12:57 Zaba: right, since svn keeps branches and such in a separate folder... 09:13:16 well, svn actually doesn't care 09:13:59 it supports per-directory history and hardlinking of things, it's up to the user to organize branches out of that 09:16:20 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:58 oddly, deleting crawl-ref/source/saves/def directory didn't fix the problem 09:19:11 Crawl still crashes on startup with the same error 09:19:24 -!- dck has joined ##crawl-dev 09:21:04 can i suggest that evilmike_mini_pan_murderfest be a guaranteed demonic rune? 09:21:22 the only reason i went back to finish that vault was that i expected it to be one given the nastiness, and since it's so recognizable i will just never do it again 09:21:26 !vault evilmike_mini_pan_murderfest 09:21:27 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/pan.des;hb=HEAD#l1652 09:21:50 I love that the name sounds completely tounge-in-cheek 09:21:58 that does sound odd since that should have deleted the .des file that was complaining about the "dragon" name 09:22:51 yes, johnstein, the whole saves/des directory was re-generated 09:23:21 -!- sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:23:28 elderman, do you have a dat/des/variable/encompass.des file? 09:24:01 I do, Zaba 09:24:36 elderman, what does 'git describe' say? 09:25:06 it says : 0.14-a0-2360-g192af81 09:25:23 ^version 09:25:23 trunk: 0.14-a0-2360-g192af81; 0.13: 0.13.1-27-ga479965 09:25:24 elderman, and does 'git status' mention dat/des/variable/encompass.des? 09:26:08 it does, Zaba 09:26:24 and what does it tell you about it? 09:26:42 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:51 it's listed under 'untracked files' 09:27:10 well, I don't know how you ended up with it there, but you can just remove it 09:28:03 and most of the other untracked files, too, I guess. I wonder why there are so many. I don't go playing around with the code. 09:28:22 that happened to me once too elderman. I didn't know what I did to get those files untracked either 09:29:16 and I don't recall offhand what I did about it. it was last summer on a different crawl repo I was working with 09:29:48 so does : pan_demonic_rune(_G, 'P') not guarantee a rune? 09:29:58 the description above implies it does 09:31:59 wheals: i didn't see a rune in that vault 09:33:46 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:34:31 looking at some vaults that i know explicitly force the rune, they all seem to have KITEM: O = demonic rune of Zot 09:34:49 i think that there is a chance to place the rune in that vault but that it isn't guaranteed 09:35:13 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 09:35:57 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:04 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:47 yeah, it's a chance if you look at pan_demonic_run in detail 09:40:46 i guess a 1/9th chance 09:41:14 -!- thomus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:41:46 imo every panlord vault should have a demonic rune 09:43:58 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:44:05 !tell tenofswords Perhaps always give evilmike_mini_pan_murderfest a demonic rune, since it seems to live up to its name? 09:44:05 gammafunk: OK, I'll let tenofswords know. 09:44:57 You have to ask the true Lord of Pandemonium to place the rune... 09:45:56 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:40 !lg * place=pan kmap=~evilmike s=kmap 09:46:41 105 games for * (place=pan kmap=~evilmike): 19x evilmike_holy_pan, 15x evilmike_cerebov_lava, 10x evilmike_gloorx_vloq_box, 8x evilmike_mini_pan_diamond, 7x evilmike_mini_pan_pillars, 5x evilmike_mini_pan_branches, 5x evilmike_mini_pan_pillars_b, 4x evilmike_mini_pan_corridor, 4x evilmike_mnoleg_eyes, 4x evilmike_mini_pan_possible_glass, 4x evilmike_mini_pan_doors_b, 3x evilmike_mini_pan_V, 3x evi... 09:47:20 !lg * place=pan ikiller~~demonspawn 09:47:21 No games for * (place=pan ikiller~~demonspawn). 09:47:31 !lg * place=pan ikiller~~demon_spawn 09:47:32 No games for * (place=pan ikiller~~demon_spawn). 09:48:19 !lg * ikiller~~demonspawn 09:48:20 5. dizzypixie the Skirmisher (L1 DjAK), worshipper of Lugonu, slain by a gelid demonspawn (a +0,+0 demon whip) on Abyss:1 on 2014-01-31 02:53:27, with 0 points after 57 turns and 0:00:49. 09:48:25 hehe 09:48:27 !lg * ikiller~~demonspawn 1 09:48:32 1/5. palyth the Demonologist (L18 VpSu), worshipper of Sif Muna, blasted by a demonspawn scorcher (great blast of fire) on D:24 on 2012-10-06 21:51:03, with 205349 points after 75604 turns and 6:15:48. 09:49:02 !lg * ikiller~~demonspawn -2 09:49:05 4/5. bmfx the Elven Blade (L18 SEGl), worshipper of Trog, blasted by a demonspawn scorcher (fireball) on D:21 on 2013-02-01 03:21:08, with 174090 points after 59390 turns and 5:17:54. 09:49:18 not deadly enough... 09:50:22 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:52:26 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:56:38 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:00:11 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:03:28 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:09:09 -!- master_j has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:11:04 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:15 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:22:20 After removing all the untracked files and re-compiling, crawl is working again 10:22:55 Thanks for the help, Zaba and johnstein 10:24:24 zaba gave you the useful info. :) 10:24:29 no problem 10:24:30 but np 10:25:04 wonder why those des files get untracked like that sometimes 10:25:18 I had blamed it on my own git ignorance 10:25:58 but seeing someone else do it might imply I (we) did nothing wrong. or both did the same wrong thing 10:25:59 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:01 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:03 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:04 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:06 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:08 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:14 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:31 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:33 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:34 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:35 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:37 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:40 !crashlog EightySix 10:26:40 19. EightySix, XL15 FoFi, T:14269 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/EightySix/crash-EightySix-20140131-162613.txt 10:26:54 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:55 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:26:57 EightySix (L15 FoFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit return_from_shoals[99] didn't get generated. (Shoals:1) 10:28:28 %git :/Shoals 10:28:29 07DracoOmega02 * 0.14-a0-2201-g6e871df: Adjust Shoals spawn table 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 22+ 15-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e871df78c43 10:28:37 %git :/shoals 10:28:38 07blackcustard02 {|amethyst} * 0.14-a0-1001-gdedc6d8: Let shoals tides lap past all closed doors sometimes. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dedc6d8c2955 10:30:21 I don't know johnstein. I just upgraded my system... don't know if that could have anything to do with it? 10:31:35 Don't see any weird Fo shafting business there... 10:31:59 I don't know elderman. every time I dive into the code I learn new stuff. 10:33:54 -!- somethinggreen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:38:13 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:38:14 gammafunk: why would you expect to see that when they're crashing at Shoals:1 ? 10:38:27 you clearly can't shaft into Shoals:1 10:39:23 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:39:33 yes, but you could be shafting on shoals:1 10:40:12 Anyhow, the morgue does mentions the exit back to lair 10:40:44 <|amethyst> there's a terrain change marker on top of stone_stairs_up_i 10:40:51 but does that check trigger BEFORE shafting? 10:40:57 <|amethyst> Marker 5 at (63, 16): feature (stone_stairs_up_i) 10:40:58 <|amethyst> Marker 6 at (63, 16): Terrain change marker (99->32, 25) 10:41:14 hmm, so, something is happening in the wrong area? 10:41:21 also, probably that should print actual feature names ... 10:41:35 oh is it something to do with water nymphs? 10:41:44 <|amethyst> 25 is DNGN_FLOOR if I'm not mistaken? 10:41:44 er. s/area/order/ 10:41:52 <|amethyst> oh wait 10:41:58 32 is DNGN_SHALLOW_WATER 10:42:07 <|amethyst> yeah, was misreading it 10:42:17 ah, nymph turning stairs into water? 10:42:38 they definitely do that at least, not sure if it's the cause of this 10:43:02 <|amethyst> and 99 is DNGN_RETURN_FROM_SHOALS 10:43:26 water nymphs OP 10:43:27 !lm eightysix crash -tv 10:43:28 27. EightySix, XL15 FoFi, T:14269 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 10:43:31 what's with Marker 5 though? 10:44:22 i can reproduce it locally with a water nymph turning a branch exit into water then saving/reloading before the water expires 10:45:01 <|amethyst> SamB: that gets added by _fixup_branch_stairs 10:45:02 wow good tv 10:45:04 anyway, I guess the check should be looking at those markers? 10:45:10 what's it for? 10:45:29 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 10:46:05 <|amethyst> The simplest fix IMO would be to have check_map_validity also look up terrain change markers and use the oldfeat 10:46:21 <|amethyst> SamB: it's the check to make sure a branch isn't generated without an exit 10:46:46 good check imo 10:46:52 <|amethyst> we started running the debug scans on level load a while ago 10:47:12 |amethyst: no, I mean, what's marker 5 for 10:48:46 <|amethyst> I have no idea 10:50:25 -!- Soadreqm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:50:46 <|amethyst> hm 10:51:12 <|amethyst> it looks like, for one thing, marking which of multiple exits is the first 10:51:35 <|amethyst> see the dgn_find_feature_marker calls in dgn_find_nearby_stair 10:54:09 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:55:50 -!- Amy has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:01:44 -!- mooose has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:04:59 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2360-g192af81 (34) 11:06:13 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:20:00 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21:38 -!- Turgor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:33:25 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:34:09 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2361-g2bf61e5: Don't crash on debug scan when an exit feature is covered. 10(6 minutes ago, 3 files, 20+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bf61e57450f 11:37:21 -!- robotcentaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:38:33 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:38:43 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:38 dpeg seems to be a busy person. :S 11:44:02 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2361-g2bf61e5 (34) 11:44:37 -!- qwebirc528424 has quit [Client Quit] 11:48:50 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:51:02 -!- William has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:52:00 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53:20 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:58:09 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:02:30 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:05:08 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:57 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:11:58 |amethyst: Would you consider merging the latest patch in 0007474? I have incorporated pretty much everyone's suggestions on the team that has cared to weigh in. 12:12:09 I have the approval of tenofswords and pretty much the not-disapproval of everyone. Certainly happy to address any technical issues if you see any. The glyph move part can happen later, if need be 12:14:56 Of course one can never truly know what the Grunt is thinking... 12:15:02 12:15:08 <_< 12:15:53 Can I !learn a newline 12:15:58 !send Grunt greater destruction 12:15:58 Sending greater destruction to Grunt. 12:16:15 don't you mean major destruction? or legendary? 12:16:27 nah 12:16:41 but major destruction doesn't exist! 12:16:58 ??greater_servant 12:16:58 greater servant[1/1]: Summons a temporary executioner, green death, blizzard demon, balrug, or cacodemon. Hostility chance is reduced (but never to 0) by invocations skill. Hostile if 1d(20 + Invocations * 3) <= 4 (e.g. 1/5 at 0 skill, 1/11 at 8 skill, 1/17 at 16 skill). 12:17:03 ??major_destruction 12:17:03 major destruction[1/3]: Power is based on invocations. Randomly fires one of: bolt of fire|lightning|draining|iron, fireball, ranged sticky flame, or an orb of electrocution that will explode with radius 2 and make you wish you hadn't fired at something so close to you. 12:17:21 oh, reminds me: there's a small bug in orb of electrocution... 12:25:22 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it still works without the tengu move patch, right? 12:25:36 |amethyst: yes 12:26:01 It just makes him same color as ordinary minotaur 12:26:05 since there are no free colors left 12:26:18 the tengu move patch doesn't touch asterion either 12:26:29 but we can never agree about glyphs... 12:26:34 he could be the colour of plain tengu 12:26:42 since those don't spawn anywhere anymore iirc 12:26:47 hrm 12:26:49 ??glyph 12:26:49 glyph[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:interface:glyphs#glyph_list 12:27:07 ??glyphs 12:27:07 glyphs[1/1]: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs-narrow.html 12:27:18 omg 12:27:21 !learn mv glyph[1] glyphs[2] 12:27:21 glyph[1] -> glyphs[2/2]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:interface:glyphs#glyph_list 12:27:27 wheals: ty 12:27:31 !learn del glyphs[2 12:27:32 Deleted glyphs[2/2]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:interface:glyphs#glyph_list 12:28:06 <|amethyst> gammafunk: He's still of Makhleb, right? What about ETC_FIRE? 12:28:28 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I guess that could be confused with an inner flamed minotaur 12:28:36 ah, was wondering what that was 12:28:51 You kill Asterion! Asterion explodes! 12:28:57 yeah he doesn't actually have specific fire theme either 12:29:11 <|amethyst> ETC_FIRE happens to be Makhleb's altar colour as well 12:29:14 Asterion screams: "No! No!" 12:29:18 <|amethyst> which is why I suggested it 12:29:26 Well that would be fine with me 12:29:54 I think a glyph overhaul will happen fairly soon anyhow 12:31:01 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:01 <|amethyst> gammafunk: whose translation is that (of the Borges quote) 12:33:09 hrm... 12:33:40 http://ddm.ace.ed.ac.uk/project-files/Asterion/story.html 12:33:47 (Borges, Jorge Luis. 1964. The house of asteron. In Labyrinths: Selected Stories and Other Writings, ed. Donald A. Yates and James E. Irby, London: Penguin. pp. 170-172) 12:34:58 <|amethyst> gammafunk: that's not the translation you used 12:35:03 <|amethyst> I think I found it, but no name 12:35:21 <|amethyst> http://anagrammatically.com/2008/02/23/translated-la-casa-de-asterion-becomes-the-house-of-asterion/ 12:35:33 indeed, it was not 12:36:31 <|amethyst> Found a name 12:36:33 <|amethyst> Antonios Sarhanis 12:37:12 I really should have thought of this when copying and pasting quotes from the internet... 12:37:52 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:49 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:38:59 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:28 * Grunt finds a bug, and uses this as an excuse to do something he should have done a while ago. 12:39:46 Grunt: If I found a minor bug in orb of electricity, would that interest you? 12:39:57 gammafunk: possibly, but not at this exact moment :b 12:40:06 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I also think I'm going to give it SPFLAG_CHAOTIC 12:40:16 Yes, that makes sense, of course 12:40:31 (I'm going to be leaving for a bit in a few minutes, and I want to get this done before then.) 12:40:46 Grunt: I'll mantis it then 12:40:53 what's the bug? 12:41:01 basically just naming convenctions 12:41:26 grep "orb of electricity" and then "orb of electrocution" and then ORB_OF_ELECTRICITY and then ORB_OF_ELECTROCUTION 12:41:49 fr: "orb of elec" 12:42:11 Well, I basically pulled the spell definition from ancient Crawl code <_< 12:42:13 heh, and yeah just grep "orb of elec" and ORB_OF_ELEC actually 12:42:27 !send gammafunk Orb of Fragmentation 12:42:28 Sending Orb of Fragmentation to gammafunk. 12:42:35 oh, that sounds fun 12:42:39 frag grenade? 12:42:43 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:43:58 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2362-g25c0530: Let beams melt monster icemail / Ozocubu's properly. 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=25c053032985 12:43:58 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-2363-g74625ff: Rework the monster Ozocubu's Armour effect and give back to Fannar. 10(11 minutes ago, 7 files, 34+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=74625fffcfc1 12:44:00 -!- Grujah has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:44:46 cool...heh 12:44:46 so orb of elecrocution is the ds spell, and electricity is deck/makh? 12:44:46 Yeah, it's pretty chill. 12:44:46 <_< 12:46:43 wheals: electricity is the monster beam descript, electrocution is the player "spell" descript, yeah 12:47:03 is there a significant difference between the two effects? 12:47:27 I'm sure the damage forumulas aren't "the same" but clearly the naming should be consistent 12:47:42 We don't give player ds a "hellflames" mutation, for instance 12:47:51 But no both exlode in a big ball of elec 12:48:45 sounds like grunt's fault :b 12:49:09 The only reason I noticed is because I had a commit to add said spell zaps, but then ds came along and added it, and I saw a naming difference 12:49:24 wheals: impossible, not a minmax error... 12:49:35 hmm 12:49:35 Basil: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:49:45 Exploding large rocks do not explode on each monster they hit 12:49:49 that is sort of disappointing. 12:49:52 !tell Basil hmmm 12:49:52 gammafunk: OK, I'll let basil know. 12:50:07 Basil: also returning ones don't git dudes on the way back 12:50:35 Basil: large rocks of fragmentation sound like a very fun thing 12:51:06 er, exploding? 12:51:09 ??exploding 12:51:09 exploding[1/1]: Explosion effect similar to LRD or Fireball on impact. Allegedly does 2d5 damage regardless of missile. Makes lots of noise (duh). 12:53:49 oh wait, I'm telling Basil to make things explode... 12:53:53 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:54:32 you could have prevented this 12:54:35 and, oh no, I just realized that Fedhas grants exploding spores.... 12:54:40 it explodes! 12:54:41 the pieces all fit 13:01:15 Chernop (L17 DsMo) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1444: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Shoals:4) 13:01:39 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:59 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02:19 Chernop (L17 DsMo) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1444: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Shoals:4) 13:02:35 Chernop (L17 DsMo) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1444: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Shoals:4) 13:03:24 !crashlog Chernop 13:03:24 4. Chernop, XL17 DsMo, T:47624 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Chernop/crash-Chernop-20140131-190235.txt 13:03:56 Scroll of summoning... 13:04:19 !version 13:04:24 trunk: 0.14-a0-2361-g2bf61e5; 0.13: 0.13.1-27-ga479965; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 13:05:52 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 13:06:03 I see pop_shoals still has MONS_NO_MONSTER 13:07:54 Yeah it's that shadow creatures summoning MONS_NO_MONSTER bug 13:07:55 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:08:12 didn't that get changed when it was noticed earlier? 13:11:45 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:16:09 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Quit: ₪₪₪-₪₪₪-₪₪-₪₪₪] 13:22:55 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:28:40 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:30:18 03gammafunk02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2364-ge2f1143: Asterion, a late-game unique minotaur of Makhleb 10(2 months ago, 13 files, 162+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2f114357de2 13:30:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2365-g6ec12ba: Give Major Destruction SPFLAG_CHAOTIC. 10(50 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ec12ba372e3 13:30:25 -!- sprort has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 13:31:00 isn't makh also evil? 13:31:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:31:40 <|amethyst> wheals: I made the spell chaotic, not because it's a Makhleb ability, but because it chooses randomly from a menu of effects 13:32:11 hm i see 13:32:24 <|amethyst> though I guess bolt of draining is evil... 13:33:53 |amethyst: thanks once again for helping with the merge 13:34:24 Chernop's crash is because the new lair branch populations have MONS_NO_MONSTER 13:34:30 and shadow creatures is trying to summon that 13:34:43 This was noticed much earlier, but it seems no fix was made 13:35:03 clearly now it's time to add my unique >_> 13:35:06 I guess it needs to veto 13:35:24 wheals: You just have to ask each dev nicely for an opinion... 13:36:32 I have to go but I'll look to see if a patch happens for that summoning bug and make one if not 13:38:20 -!- RiotInferno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:43:30 -!- Tarragon has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:40 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44:58 -!- Tarragon is now known as Basil 13:47:14 Bloax: asterion could use a tile, if you're interested 13:47:23 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:48:24 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:49:27 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:50:22 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2366-g66f6612: Remove the unused Fumes mutation 10(2 hours ago, 5 files, 3+ 15-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=66f6612f2aa6 13:50:22 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2367-gd820172: Fix some Asterion speech lines 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d820172923c9 13:50:45 gammafunk: I'm pretty trash at character tiles. 13:52:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:55:29 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:21 -!- robotcentaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:03:21 -!- RiotInferno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:04:16 -!- Morphy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:26:37 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:28:37 -!- montyb has quit [Quit: montyb] 14:31:10 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:32:48 -!- agenius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35:31 -!- darkfrog_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:35:58 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:40:23 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:45:29 -!- Croases has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:46:58 -!- montyb has quit [Client Quit] 14:48:01 -!- ystael has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:50:21 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:22 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:18 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:14:17 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:14:48 -!- speedy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:20:22 !bug 0008073 15:20:23 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=0008073 15:22:33 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:24:21 nice rakshasa patch 15:25:14 rakshasa? 15:25:27 a minor patch that was applied 3 years later :D 15:25:40 heh :) 15:26:22 !function _is_incompatible_monster 15:26:22 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-place.cc;hb=HEAD#l440 15:26:51 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:27:03 I think the fix to 8073 is to to simply check that mt != MONS_NO_MONSTER 15:27:14 in the function above 15:27:47 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:28:58 er I guess that would be mt == MONS_NO_MONSTER in the case of _is_incompatible_monster 15:30:00 hrm, looks like other veto functions would not like that either 15:30:13 <|amethyst> what is the meaning of MONS_NO_MONSTER on the monster list anyway? 15:30:30 <|amethyst> to reduce the total number/frequency of spawned monsters? 15:31:08 yes 15:31:18 well I recall draco saying that when asked 15:31:37 honestly I should look up the dev log conversation to be sure 15:32:01 <|amethyst> Seems so: 15:32:07 <|amethyst> %git 1766415 15:32:08 07DracoOmega02 * 0.14-a0-2238-g1766415: Salamander populations for Depths 10(4 days ago, 2 files, 25+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=17664159b66d 15:32:15 <|amethyst> "with liberal use of MONS_NO_MONSTER to thin overall numbers quite a bit, 15:32:16 <|amethyst> " 15:32:47 yeah, seems there could be a more elegant way to achieve this 15:33:04 trying to figure out just how having that in the list breaks various things is certainly a pain 15:34:44 I see 15:35:42 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:35:44 Caller must use !invalid_monster_type to check if the return value is a real monster. 15:35:54 <|amethyst> I'm not sure that handling it in RANDOM_COMPATIBLE_MONSTER is the right approach 15:38:07 Yeah it does seem problematic 15:38:14 -!- advil has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:38:20 <|amethyst> I'm also wondering if this causes problem for Zig levels or in general things like MONS: Snake:2 15:38:38 the comment above pick_random_monster suggests we just need that invalid_monster_type check 15:38:56 of course that's just checking the enum range 15:39:22 <|amethyst> gammafunk: but shadow creatures doesn't use pick_random_monster directly 15:39:31 <|amethyst> it uses create_monster(mgen_data(....)) 15:39:43 <|amethyst> and we don't want that to re-roll MONS_NO_MONSTER because that's the whole point 15:39:58 yes, I'm just having a hard time seeing exactly where to put said check 15:40:07 or is the problem shadow's use of create_monster then 15:40:12 <|amethyst> I guess in cast_shadow_creatures for now 15:42:02 hrm, would this also be an issue for plane rend 15:42:08 that has specific sets probably 15:42:22 yeah it does 15:43:11 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:43:23 good, abyss call to pick_random_monster does the check 15:44:11 * tenofswords mumbles about the abyss 15:44:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:45:44 I'm not sure if the call at dungeon.cc:4750 is problematic or not 15:45:59 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:48:58 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:49:02 ah, it's not 15:51:47 shadow_creatures -> create_monster -> mons_place -> place_monster 15:52:50 the mapgen call is directly to place_monster and that function is fine with place_monster returning a NULL monster 15:53:03 <|amethyst> hm 15:53:30 <|amethyst> I think your initial suggestion to handle it in RANDOM_COMPATIBLE_MONSTER might in fact be the best way 15:53:43 and the other veto functions? 15:53:45 <|amethyst> can't handle it in cast_shadow_creatures itself because that is too late 15:53:53 yeah, not without an awkward loop 15:54:25 <|amethyst> gammafunk: even then it won't work, because ti's the create_monster call itself that is failing 15:54:29 <|amethyst> s/failing/crashing/ 15:54:39 ah ok, didn't realize that 15:54:52 <|amethyst> the veto is failing 15:58:54 <|amethyst> place:Shoals:3 zombie has the same issue, and probably arena and the other vetoes as you point out 15:59:22 Perhaps always disallow mons_no_monster if veto function is given? 15:59:45 <|amethyst> yeah, that's what I'm going to do 16:00:05 <|amethyst> or, rather, have the veto always reject invalids 16:02:21 I think this is a roughly reasonable hells/pan/abyss/whatever zombie list but it means that cocytus now has arbitrarily patrolling water zombies, hrrmmm 16:02:40 clearly should wait for MONS_NO_MONSTER to be fixed here 16:02:42 why what's the problem 16:02:49 I hope is has MONS_NO_MONSTER zombies 16:02:54 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:09 I guess in a way it did before 16:03:15 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:03:20 wheals: repeats between the zombie bases I put into cocytus water and general zombie bases" 16:03:52 kraken zombies are the best 16:03:54 couldn't you remove the water monsters from the hells zombie list then? 16:04:02 or remove the coc thing 16:04:26 well, it is a water hell so I am reluctant to just throw out placing extra stuff in water 16:06:31 could you merge the things somehow? 16:06:36 or special-case the coc list? 16:06:43 maybe we'll get some good new hellish monster types 16:06:47 like what happened for pan 16:06:58