00:00:08 I assume you get experience every time you kill it? And you have to kill it 3 times to fully kill it? 00:00:40 wheals: should have directed ^^ at you 00:00:53 yeah 00:01:42 though it gives less xp each time since xp is based on hd and hp among other things 00:02:04 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2100-g3cf34dd (34) 00:06:26 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-2100-g3cf34dd (34) 00:09:38 -!- yinz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:10:14 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 00:14:10 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:15:53 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2100-g3cf34dd (34) 00:20:38 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 00:20:47 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:24:24 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24:58 -!- fearitself has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:26:30 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:28:19 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:31:34 -!- Pepe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:33:59 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2100-g3cf34dd 00:34:13 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:34:58 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:59 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:40:00 -!- Bovinius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:44:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:46:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:54:10 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:56:37 -!- Naphistim_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:59:48 -!- Siegurt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:02:12 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:09:06 -!- SamB_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:50 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:18:24 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 01:21:33 -!- sigmund_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21:40 -!- mrkitty has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21:47 -!- SamB_ is now known as SamB 01:26:21 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:30:50 -!- beef42 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:36:53 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:40:39 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:48:34 -!- cr0ne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:58:08 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:00:52 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: g'bug] 02:04:23 -!- conted_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:04:23 -!- tenofswords has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:04:49 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:05:10 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:05:39 -!- hookyspooky has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:06:08 -!- badplayer has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:35 -!- bschlief has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12:59 Vault question: on the linked vault, the tiles under a,b,c,d should be Waters if the '1' is picked, but they are defaulting to floor. shouldn't the KFEAT: 1 = ' make the SUBST: ' = W have an effect of turning them into water tiles? http://rob.pecknology.net/foo 02:12:59 badplayer: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 02:13:03 !messages 02:13:03 (1/1) bh said (1w 2d 2h 57m 32s ago): ping 02:13:54 badplayer: KFEAT doesn't work like that 02:13:54 minmay: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 02:14:35 badplayer: KFEAT places a specific dungeon feature on the specified symbol. ' doesn't correspond to any symbol so it defaults to floor 02:14:43 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:14:46 badplayer: s/any symbol/any feature 02:15:04 badplayer: what you want is "KFEAT: 1 = W" 02:15:10 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:11 thanks minmay. 02:15:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:15:24 badplayer: you also could have found this out by reading docs/develop/levels/syntax.txt 02:15:33 !lg . -log 02:15:33 1118. gammafunk, XL2 HEIE, T:203: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/morgue-gammafunk-20140126-081004.txt 02:15:50 !lg . -log 02:15:51 1119. gammafunk, XL3 HEIE, T:798: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/morgue-gammafunk-20140126-081450.txt 02:16:22 I don't think I have the intelligence needed to understand those docs. thanks again for the clarification. 02:17:02 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2100-g3cf34dd (34) 02:20:59 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:27:46 -!- honeybadger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:28:43 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:30:50 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:32:52 -!- minmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:32:57 -!- minqmay is now known as minmay 02:33:01 -!- minmay is now known as minqmay 02:45:57 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:51:20 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:51:21 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:52:40 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 02:54:55 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:55:52 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:59:24 -!- bschlief has quit [] 03:02:29 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:06:15 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:10:38 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:11:09 -!- duralumin_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:16:02 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:18 !lg purplered TeCj max=nrune -tv 03:22:18 135. PurpleRed, XL25 TeCj, T:32798 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 03:22:35 !seen mumra 03:22:35 Sorry xFleury, I haven't seen mumra. 03:25:20 !lg purplered TeCj max=nrune 03:25:21 135. PurpleRed the Devastator (L25 TeCj), worshipper of Vehumet, demolished by Ignacio (a +5,+5 executioner's axe of pain) in Pandemonium on 2014-01-12 01:31:18, with 668665 points after 32798 turns and 14:38:39. 03:25:28 !lg purplered TeCj max=nrune x=nrune 03:25:29 135. [nrune=9] PurpleRed the Devastator (L25 TeCj), worshipper of Vehumet, demolished by Ignacio (a +5,+5 executioner's axe of pain) in Pandemonium on 2014-01-12 01:31:18, with 668665 points after 32798 turns and 14:38:39. 03:27:11 !lg purplered TeCj max=nrune x=nrune -log 03:27:12 135. PurpleRed, XL25 TeCj, T:32798: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/PurpleRed/morgue-PurpleRed-20140112-013118.txt 03:28:53 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:30:27 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 03:30:33 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:32:02 -!- OCTOTROGjr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:33:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:35:08 I love spending an hour on a bug and finding out the cause was errant whitespace :/ 03:35:13 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:36:33 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 03:39:39 whitespace? lua? 03:40:18 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:40:27 even dumber 03:40:34 << vs < < ? 03:40:50 trying to whip up a good crawl update script. using the dgamelaunch update-scripts as a guide 03:40:58 it was in the make \ 03:41:13 err, in the make line with multiple continued lines 03:41:22 had a space to the right of a couple \ 03:48:42 -!- joosa has quit [Quit: brb] 03:48:58 -!- xFleury has left ##crawl-dev 03:51:05 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:53:09 -!- rdx has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? 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Use !messages to read them. 10:50:33 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:21 !lm pubby fone 10:53:21 79. [2014-01-26 15:37:02] pubby the Necromancer (L26 FoNe) killed Frances on turn 89504. (Depths:5) 10:53:46 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2101-gc794351: Vine stalkers added. 10(6 weeks ago, 21 files, 238+ 25-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7943516ac3d 10:53:46 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2102-gcb62a7f: Prevent vine stalker bite from draining firewood or summons. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 7+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb62a7f8bfa2 10:53:46 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2103-g321c037: Change 'magic' to 'power' for non-spellcaster manadrain message. 10(4 weeks ago, 5 files, 8+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=321c037b6790 10:53:46 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2104-g342daa0: Add MONS_VINE_STALKER. 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 15+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=342daa02e859 10:53:46 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2105-g452658b: Add adjective and genus for vine stalker naming. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=452658bda2cb 10:53:46 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2106-gd62e238: Reduce vine stalker experience apt by 1. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d62e238a84a7 10:53:46 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2107-g8ddf05a: A few tweaks to VS monster. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 12+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ddf05a6b653 10:53:46 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2108-g1136ad5: Add Plane Stalker. 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 8+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1136ad59c4eb 10:53:46 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2109-g1853da0: Reduce vine stalker starting regen to II, upgrades to III at xl8. 10(4 weeks ago, 2 files, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1853da09c552 10:53:46 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2110-g84dddcc: Halve vine stalker manavamp across the board. 10(4 weeks ago, 2 files, 6+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=84dddcc57f79 10:53:46 ... and 8 more commits 10:53:49 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2101-gc794351: Vine stalkers added. 10(6 weeks ago, 21 files, 238+ 25-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7943516ac3d 10:53:49 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2102-gcb62a7f: Prevent vine stalker bite from draining firewood or summons. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 7+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb62a7f8bfa2 10:53:49 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2103-g321c037: Change 'magic' to 'power' for non-spellcaster manadrain message. 10(4 weeks ago, 5 files, 8+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=321c037b6790 10:53:49 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2104-g342daa0: Add MONS_VINE_STALKER. 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 15+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=342daa02e859 10:53:49 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2105-g452658b: Add adjective and genus for vine stalker naming. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=452658bda2cb 10:53:49 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2106-gd62e238: Reduce vine stalker experience apt by 1. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d62e238a84a7 10:53:49 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2107-g8ddf05a: A few tweaks to VS monster. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 12+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ddf05a6b653 10:53:49 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2108-g1136ad5: Add Plane Stalker. 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 8+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1136ad59c4eb 10:53:49 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2109-g1853da0: Reduce vine stalker starting regen to II, upgrades to III at xl8. 10(4 weeks ago, 2 files, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1853da09c552 10:53:49 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2110-g84dddcc: Halve vine stalker manavamp across the board. 10(4 weeks ago, 2 files, 6+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=84dddcc57f79 10:53:49 ... and 8 more commits 10:54:02 o///////////////////////////// 10:55:23 ? 10:55:27 what just happened 10:56:28 as you can see, forest was just removed 10:57:29 if only that were the case 10:57:56 fine stalker 10:59:17 the s-z.org/crawl-dev/ logs contain chei always doubling up on commits for some reason 10:59:30 <|amethyst> hm 11:01:25 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:01:26 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:01:40 <|amethyst> Lightli: vine stalker added, and: 11:01:42 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^ 11:01:43 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-2117-gfca2108: Rearrange species selection; remove obsolete comment. 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 17-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fca210853705 11:01:43 <|amethyst> %git HEAD 11:01:44 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-2118-g8230723: Reduce ponderous penalty to 1. 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8230723e9b16 11:02:11 |amethyst: it seems to begin in 24 jan 11:02:43 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:20 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:51 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2119-ge69afc6: Reduce ponderous penalty for monsters, too 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e69afc6acbd6 11:03:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 11:03:56 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:56 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2119-ge69afc6: Reduce ponderous penalty for monsters, too 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e69afc6acbd6 11:04:06 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2118-g8230723 (34) 11:04:22 <|amethyst> wheals: hm, no changes then 11:04:32 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04:44 I need to round up latest opinions on asterion now... 11:04:49 !seen kilobyte 11:04:49 I last saw kilobyte at Thu Jan 23 00:16:17 2014 UTC (3d 16h 48m 32s ago) joining the channel. 11:17:47 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:47 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 11:17:48 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 11:20:43 -!- djanatyn has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:20:49 Eronarn: How experienced are you with TOME? 11:22:11 <|amethyst> I should probably play more roguelikes 11:22:24 <|amethyst> My experience is kind of limited 11:22:28 Maybe you can give this Sil thing a try 11:22:31 Because Crawl certainly is quite a fast game if you know it very well, but if you don't then spending a day of playtime on a single character isn't impossible. 11:22:32 (and add it to s-z) 11:22:54 <|amethyst> !lg . won s=dur 11:22:54 2 games for |amethyst (won): 8:11:47, 10:19:50 11:23:04 <|amethyst> oh, thought it was more than that 11:23:14 <|amethyst> !lg . max=dur 11:23:15 8303. Neil the Sorcerer (L22 FeTm), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, blasted by an orb of fire (fireball) on Zot:3 on 2011-08-27 14:25:22, with 318382 points after 157916 turns and 18:28:15. 11:23:17 <|amethyst> !lg . max=dur x=dur 11:23:18 8303. [dur=18:28:15] Neil the Sorcerer (L22 FeTm), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, blasted by an orb of fire (fireball) on Zot:3 on 2011-08-27 14:25:22, with 318382 points after 157916 turns and 18:28:15. 11:23:48 i hear all the coolest crawl devs play sil yes 11:23:59 <|amethyst> I should try it, yes 11:24:40 <|amethyst> The only modern-ish rls I've played (that I can remember at the moment) are: Zangband, Crawl, DoomRL 11:25:01 <|amethyst> I guess if I could Zangband as "modern-ish" maybe I should count Nethack too 11:25:12 * tenofswords mumbles about brogue 11:25:24 <|amethyst> yeah, I should definitely try brogue too 11:25:39 * tenofswords wishes 868-hack wasn't an OSX thing 11:25:41 brogue didn't really grab me but it's worth trying yeah 11:26:14 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 11:26:59 <|amethyst> Yeah, I would have tried 868-hack if I had a way to play it 11:27:03 play adom for super fun times 11:27:15 ?adom[2] 11:27:18 ??adom[2] 11:27:18 adom[2/2]: Pacra: i've been playing for two months and am still at the character creation screen :U 11:27:25 <|amethyst> I have played 8.68-HACK but that's not the same :) 11:27:52 <|amethyst> http://www.draknek.org/games/puzzlescript/8.68-HACK.php 11:27:52 heh yeah, that was a neat thing 11:27:58 i dunno if adom counts as modern 11:29:38 <|amethyst> other RLs I have played are Rogue, Castle of the Winds, and Dragon Crystal 11:29:57 <|amethyst> I'm sure I'm forgetting something 11:30:10 ??life[2] 11:30:10 life[2/3]: The original roguelike. 11:30:30 Bloax: very, very experienced - i have a total of 20 days of time played, over 3 years 11:30:33 !played 11:30:40 hmm, what's the command for that 11:30:43 -!- djanatyn has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:30:48 !gamesby Eronarn 11:30:48 Eronarn has played 6631 games, between 2007-08-31 20:13:43 and 2013-12-31 17:12:07, won 8 (0.1%), high score 8738694, total score 53084907, total turns 14229795, play-time/day 0:48:53, total time 78d+14:14:46. 11:30:57 <|amethyst> !gamesby . 11:30:58 |amethyst has played 8303 games, between 2011-08-10 11:04:55 and 2014-01-24 21:42:54, won 2 (0.0%), high score 1318561, total score 17326059, total turns 22274060, play-time/day 1:28:27, total time 55d+5:30:58. 11:31:03 off by a factor of 4 11:31:04 !gamesby . 11:31:05 Bloax has played 575 games, between 2012-05-28 08:04:20 and 2014-01-26 16:04:58, won 10 (1.7%), high score 18264384, total score 91322951, total turns 3426026, play-time/day 0:38:28, total time 16d+6:26:58. 11:31:21 well, I've been playing crawl for several more years 11:31:33 so more like 2x probably 11:32:45 also then some amount of ADOM (probably a week+?) and doomrl (a few days) 11:33:12 ...wow I need to stop playing video games 11:33:17 Crawl is a pretty decent length game. 11:33:19 no you don't 11:33:35 <|amethyst> 1 day + 15 hours of doomrl for me 11:33:37 because once you do you can't come back 11:33:45 and that sucksss 11:33:53 Bloax: i was just doing that in tome 11:34:32 probably ~4 days played since it came out on steam, and I hadn't played seriously for like a year before that 11:34:45 heh 11:34:52 Reminds me of how I once played DoomRL a lot. 11:35:01 ~3 days of that was one character, who i won last night (albeit bad end) 11:35:08 nightmare roguelike :D 11:35:09 and then didn't touch it for two years 11:36:21 -!- djanatyn has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:36:44 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:21 <|amethyst> Crawl is still the only roguelike I've beaten, since I don't think DoomRL on ITYTD counts 11:37:31 BlastHardcheese: the adom character creation screen isnt even that bad 11:37:35 now, incursion 11:37:47 incursion is 'the' character creation screen 11:38:03 catacylsm: dda's character creation screen made me quit 11:38:27 brogue_reasons 11:38:55 I feel like I'm the only person in the universe that never got really into brogue 11:39:12 character creation screen: less Brogue seed catalog.txt 11:39:16 !messages 11:39:16 No messages for TZer0. 11:39:23 -!- praesident has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:39:35 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:39:36 brogue seeds don't exist outside of contests what are you talking about 11:41:50 -!- djanatyn has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:42:14 |amethyst: imo play sil 11:42:31 <|amethyst> absolutego: sil and brogue are both on my list of things I should play 11:42:49 <|amethyst> absolutego: I'll get around to them eventually 11:43:04 -!- djanatyn has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:43:12 Today is yesterday's tomorrow, |amethyst 11:43:13 it took me like a year to get to it properly, and i've been neglecting brogue for longer 11:43:22 so yeah i can relate 11:43:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:44:01 <|amethyst> Basil: that's why I said "eventually" and not "tomorrow" :P 11:44:25 And it is the eventually of last October 11:44:27 <|amethyst> I want to beat doomrl on HNTR first 11:44:56 i think i tried to play incursion and it wasn't vikeys-friendly? 11:45:53 <|amethyst> (confession: I rarely use vi keys—pretty much only when testing things from a laptop) 11:47:00 <|amethyst> Even in vi, I only use vi keys for things like d5j and such 11:47:17 <|amethyst> when I'm just browsing around, I use the arrows 11:47:54 real vi doesn't understand arrows :p 11:48:10 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:44 i tried to play sil and it apparently isn't vikeys friendly either? :( 11:48:46 <|amethyst> Zaba: I've only used nvi, elvis, and vim 11:48:54 wheals: There's an option for that 11:49:02 oh, nice 11:49:38 |amethyst, yeah, those are much too civilized 11:52:00 -!- djanatyn has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:54:07 <|amethyst> I played with classic vi at one point, but never actually used it for real editing tasks 11:54:17 <|amethyst> I guess I did use solaris 2.5's vi, whatever that is 11:54:38 yes, that sounds real enough 11:55:03 <|amethyst> it was long ago, though, and I don't know if the sysadmin had installed nvi or something 11:55:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:57:20 i spend most of my time on a laptop, so 11:57:55 -!- djanatyn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:58:35 the reason it took me years to get into crawl (my first roguelike) when i knew about it and looked fun is that i didn't want to learn to use vikeys; then got used to it in a couple days of course 12:00:18 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:25 wheals: yeah sil has an option to allow vikeys but then you need a modifier to access some commands... i use st_'s remaps, let me know if you want them (or ask in ##sil) 12:03:41 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:53 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:07:50 I'm having trouble getting a non-dgamelaunch version of webtiles up 12:07:52 http://pastebin.com/1V0xRVFJ 12:08:21 I'm trying to mirror the dgamelaunch configuration without a chroot 12:09:34 I suspect the issue is the bin/init.webtiles.sh file, but I can't figure out what the issue is. 12:09:57 just wondering if people have run into a similar issue with WARN: #1 Error while handling JSON message! in the webtiles.log 12:10:11 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:10:47 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:11 <|amethyst> hm.. I don't see anything obviously wrong there 12:11:23 <|amethyst> config.py would help too 12:11:29 coming right up 12:12:56 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:13:02 http://pastebin.com/Lck4paBF 12:13:34 basically my chroot_dir would be /home/jmbjr/crawl-dev/DGL 12:14:17 <|amethyst> is that script executable? 12:14:29 <|amethyst> also, it really should have #! /bin/sh or such at the top 12:14:35 <|amethyst> init.webtiles.sh that is 12:14:40 it does 12:14:46 <|amethyst> oh 12:14:56 <|amethyst> the config says init-webtiles.sh but your post says init.webtiles.sh 12:15:15 <|amethyst> but maybe that was just a typo when you pastebinned it 12:15:40 that may be it 12:15:46 the file is init.webtiles 12:16:03 <|amethyst> then that's what init_player_program should say 12:16:17 <|amethyst> with no .sh 12:16:41 <|amethyst> (assuming you didn't mean "the file is init.webtiles.sh") 12:17:10 the actual filename was init.webtiles.sh whereas the config.py was looking for init-webtiles.sh 12:17:16 <|amethyst> ah 12:17:31 apparently my beady eyes couldn't distinguish a dot from a dash last night at 3am 12:17:55 the first thing I tried was to actually copy the directory structure and files from the dgamelaunch setup 12:18:06 <|amethyst> compromise and use "init�webtiles.sh" :P 12:18:18 and reset the variables. like chroot=/home/jmbjr/crawl-dev/DGL, etc 12:18:27 but man, that was a horrible game of whack-a-code 12:18:29 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:18:37 so I burned it all down and just tried to build up only what I needed 12:19:19 "2014-01-26 13:18:41,898 INFO: #0 P1 ERR: Cannot find data file 'defaults/autopickup_exceptions.txt' anywhere, aborting" 12:20:40 <|amethyst> yeah, you need that stuff in your DATADIR, whatever you set that to when you built crawl 12:20:51 <|amethyst> make install should do that 12:23:28 03tenofswords02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2131-gbee4d0a: Buff corrupter's planerend summons 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 27+ 23-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bee4d0a01bbe 12:23:51 can you rename the thing to plane rend 12:23:55 pretty please 12:24:05 or planar end 12:24:47 unknown monster: "worldbinder" 12:24:47 %??worldbinder 12:25:01 worldbinders are lesser corrupters 12:25:06 worldbinder (05@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(106) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 3247 | Sp: sum.minor demon, sum.demon, haste, hellfire (3d20), blink away | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 12:25:06 %??hellbinder name:worldbinder 12:25:11 mm 12:25:56 "A cloud of thick fog, with faint, feeble claws constantly reaching out and grasping futily before being pulled back in by the fog. Worldbinders tie themselves to specific locations and absorb part of the weaker natives banished to the Abyss, enabling them to summon echoes from one of many locations against percieved threats." 12:26:10 these will also need tiles 12:26:31 chrisoelmueller: is "plane-rend" acceptable 12:27:06 not sure about acceptable but better at least 12:27:56 planerend is... not so easily parsed a name 12:29:01 ??planerend 12:29:01 I don't have a page labeled planerend in my learndb. 12:29:48 awesome, another formless mass of writhing nothingness 12:29:59 xD 12:30:17 <|amethyst> !lg . killer=sheep x=map 12:30:18 1. [map=] neil the Covered (L4 DjWn), slain by a sheep on D:3 on 2013-11-29 03:49:50, with 196 points after 2306 turns and 0:05:43. 12:30:19 <|amethyst> doh 12:31:07 ontoclasm: surely easier than having to make a dog, or a plant 12:31:11 "The creature's form defies all possibility of depiction; it is all things at once, and yet simultaneously devoid of any form." 12:31:20 tenofswords: true, fuck plants 12:31:22 yes, that sounds like a dog 12:32:28 -!- |amethys1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:51 -!- |amethyst has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:32:59 -!- |amethys1 is now known as |amethyst 12:34:16 -!- Arivia has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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13:26:11 bummer 13:26:23 <|amethyst> Bloax: problem is directory names and such wouldn't necessarily be correct 13:26:55 <|amethyst> (and library versions etc) 13:27:26 no chance of making vine stalkers just plants and not weirdplants, huh? :( 13:28:18 rTorm rRot rN+++ AC+4 13:28:20 plants you say 13:28:50 huh? 13:30:37 Eronarn: Basically the plant bit is only fluff and has no mechanical relevance 13:30:47 because we didn't want to saddle VS with those weird plant things 13:31:28 so you instead made them... weird plant things :| 13:32:21 Fluffwise, I guess 13:32:29 well if you approach from "thing like plant" and not "plant like thing" 13:32:41 then you get to avoid "has rN+++" 13:33:08 The only "weird" mechanic it has aside from the things I intended is rRot 13:33:15 and that's because no !HW 13:34:47 (which has the side-effect of making rot and sickness not exist, which I am not opposed to) 13:34:58 i'd make them an eldritch race instead 13:35:02 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:35:13 Magenta X? 13:35:13 tentacle stalker 13:35:39 planestalker B) 13:35:50 %git :/Plane 13:35:50 07Sage02 {|amethyst} * 0.14-a0-2108-g1136ad5: Add Plane Stalker. 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 8+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1136ad59c4eb 13:36:36 * tenofswords weeps for the wraiths 13:37:42 'Your otherworldly anatomy is immune to magical healing.' 13:38:12 'Your 13-dimensional stomach is heal-wounds intolerant' 13:38:37 yes, yes, good 13:38:39 -!- dck has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:00 Eldritch Horror (EH) doesn't help spell any words unfortunately 13:40:32 e-ham 13:40:45 plane stalker would get PSST if we brought stalker back 13:41:00 plane stalker stalker 13:41:30 so, who wants to address the three species already currently in of questionable status 13:41:36 Weird Horror 13:41:41 tenofswords: i'm cool, thanks though 13:42:07 I look forward to finished salamanders in 0.16 13:42:34 also can't wait for the salamander monster to be screwed with when that flavour transition / apt changes happens 13:42:46 lava orcs or salamanders are going to be hard to balance without better data collection, so... 13:42:59 yes, 0.16 was too optimistic 13:43:00 what, halfling, kobold, and djinn? 13:43:05 why not just have the fire aura on always 13:43:33 Bloax: the heat aura is probably droppable, it's not that important 13:43:35 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:39 there are a lot of cool fire effects you could link to tension 13:43:47 for instance lorcs used to splash lava blood when hit 13:44:07 it's linking effects to tension that is their current problem 13:44:23 A sewer portal vault by badplayer 13:44:59 Key it on hp/mhp, done 13:45:00 has anyone suggested just linking it to 1/hp? 13:45:02 All these incoming vaults... 13:45:12 Why do new vault makers hate nsubst. 13:45:23 like come on it's right there for sanity's sake 13:45:49 many tend to just try to think about shuffle/subst/nsubst as much as possible, I bet 13:45:56 er as little as possible 13:45:58 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46:19 If I don't know what I'm doing I probably aren't going to use all the fancypants features there are. 13:46:21 yes, which results in wonderful randomness like the infinitely small chance for a 200 jelly sewer 13:46:25 Because goodness I don't know what I'm doing. 13:46:48 Well if they'd ask for feedback on the channel first, it'd help 13:48:13 I should be stabbing at sewer/ossuary designs to be less mediocre in the first place so I actually have something to point at for those standards invisible to others 13:48:23 speaking of which, could tenofswords rip this vault of mine apart? https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7431 13:48:39 is that the orc end, I bet it is! 13:48:42 already getting a headache from a literally redundant use of 13:49:26 well I am instantly worried about an orc encompass vault when serving as direct contrast to the other orc ends 13:49:31 -!- asdflkjh has quit [Client Quit] 13:50:01 Basil: hp/mhp is a very different mechanic! tension is important because it depends on the amount of stuff on screen 13:50:12 also very nice MONS: orc warrior, orc priest, orc wizard, orc 13:50:27 Hey I'm here ... I'd love feed back on my vault 13:50:38 (hint that's one more slot than MONS allows) 13:51:03 orderly queues please 13:51:25 i'll get in after badplayer (!bug 7970) 13:51:49 all aboard the bad vault train 13:52:31 Just see gammafunk_forest_water_palace for a master peeece vault, everyone 13:53:02 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:53:15 Eronarn: Usually hp/mhp is lower when there are more monsters on the screen than when there are no monsters. 13:53:16 -!- scrubnub has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:53:33 okay screw this I'm going to do this all in one sweep of mantis comments 13:53:41 too many things to start on 13:54:34 I guess you could add cheibrodos' two vault submissions if you're feeling ambitious 13:54:45 -!- Tarragon has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:54 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:02 -!- Tarragon is now known as Basil 13:56:16 I am crazy tempted to just put everything with my editing hand first and then have people puzzle out the differences between their submissions and what got in 13:56:30 spoon-fed spoilers all over the place for this roguelike thing 13:58:37 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:00:13 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:06:23 Bloax: sure, but that means it won't kick in until they actually want to be running away 14:06:43 the goal of tension is to reward just diving into difficult fights 14:07:09 that imo should not be the goal of LO though 14:07:10 it's not to offset you being at low HP - HP already boosts tension, it's just not the only factor 14:07:15 (we have a god for that already) 14:09:07 There's also the god of last man standing. 14:11:51 is that like how we removed demonspawn because xom exists already 14:13:32 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:14:18 i don't see the connection you're making now 14:21:19 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-2119-ge69afc6 (34) 14:27:12 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:30:39 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:31:01 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:34:10 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:55 -!- reaverb has quit [Client Quit] 14:40:59 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:44:07 -!- axecop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:44:18 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 14:44:29 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:48:53 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:49:22 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:15 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:57:22 -!- Isabel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:57:57 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:05:53 -!- eith|2 is now known as eith 15:10:18 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:15:16 so formicid venom mage monsters seem kind of boring 15:15:34 give them ignite poison 15:15:37 would anyone prefer a different fo mage? or remove? 15:16:08 incidentally i have more problems with the non-VM ones spawning 15:16:27 why? 15:17:27 they're useless monsters 15:17:36 don't add much to spider and don't have any threat actually now that i try to think of one 15:18:01 more different monsters means the game takes longer to learn, and when those monsters dont do anything interesting... 15:18:34 formicid venom mage (06a) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 22-52 | AC/EV: 3/8 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(37) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 336 | Sp: b.venom (3d12), poison arrow (3d14), cantrip, stone arrow (3d13), dig | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 15:18:34 %?? formicid venom mage 15:18:34 that's true 15:18:36 formicid (03a) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 28-57 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(32) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 227 | Sp: dig | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:18:36 %?? formicid 15:19:46 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2120-g3f2b1c5: Place uniques less frequently in Orc endings 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f2b1c59b463 15:20:44 dig could be interesting except that spider doesn't have corridors anyway 15:22:34 if they stay, what about them being in a pack rather than single? 15:23:11 -!- Un67 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:27:12 * kilobyte .oO( a formicid venom mage with Toxic Radiance and Ignite Poison leading a pack of bombs^Wvanilla formicids ) 15:27:43 that was my idea for an olgreb's wizlab 15:28:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:28:50 i think that merging vanilla formicids and venom mages might be enough, beef up the latter a bit and give them gsc/2handers and shields 15:29:20 then the former could be no spawn (would have to remove the formicid hive vault too i guess) 15:30:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:31:26 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:31:55 formicid hive is a dwanthill 15:32:28 ??dwant vault 15:32:28 I don't have a page labeled dwant_vault in my learndb. 15:32:34 ??DWANTHELL 15:32:34 I don't have a page labeled DWANTHELL in my learndb. 15:33:12 ??ant vault 15:33:12 I don't have a page labeled ant_vault in my learndb. 15:33:13 rip 15:38:14 -!- Furril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:39:07 -!- Sdaed has quit [Client Quit] 15:39:58 fyi rhf isn't updated yet 15:40:59 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:41:28 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:55 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:46:03 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2120-g3f2b1c5 15:46:59 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:47:43 -!- Sdaed has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:48:29 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:49:13 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:51:14 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:51:22 tenofswords: haha, kb resolved before you could post your feedback 15:52:24 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:03 marking as resolved doesn't stop comments, you know 15:57:32 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:50 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:57:56 -!- Escalator_ is now known as Escalator 16:00:05 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:03:58 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:06:12 -!- eith|2 is now known as eith 16:08:58 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:09:14 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:38 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:13:12 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 16:13:24 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:17:08 %git :/Vehumet 16:17:09 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1440-g288d735: Correct the Vehumet message if there's but one final gift offered. 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=288d735ba549 16:20:47 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:35:01 generating salamanders on lair:1 seems kind of mean now 16:36:06 generating a vault with a brigade of centaurs on d:3 seems perfectly fine 16:37:20 minmay: Some of what I'm doing will address that 16:37:55 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:40:25 -!- Naphistim has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:41:11 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:42:24 -!- jhellg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:36 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:02 -!- cybie04 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:46:24 ah, yes, the perfect solution to me worrying so much about how to get people to make better things 16:46:32 have somebody just skip over the entire damn process 16:48:45 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:09 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:28 (also resolving the issues without seeing any changes in master is surely bad) 16:51:23 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52:34 (not like avoiding the editing process is what leads to the lack of standards that makes me have to do that later anyway...) 16:52:46 kilobyte: oh, if you're committing that orc:4 vault, then Grunt mentioned it handled the elf portal wrong 16:53:11 that was the very first thing that was in my comment list 16:53:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:53:20 I was gonna fix it after I got your feedback 16:53:40 I was doing everybody's in one gooooooooooo 16:53:44 sigh 16:54:58 buppy: seems to work for me 16:55:49 duplicate elf entrances on oc:3 and orc:4? 16:56:13 ah right 16:56:40 also, since no other orc end provides loot I was going to reccomend replacing | with only chances for a store like regular orc:4 may have outside the vault 16:56:43 kilobyte: is there any chance i can get you to not push ice beast mess by the way 16:56:50 it'd be really pointless to have that 16:57:06 ChrisOelmueller: what mess? 16:57:09 also, these are mines and thus it's better to place fungi over plants (especially since fungi are in the monster list) 16:57:23 kilobyte: the one you promised to make happen in response to my patch 16:57:32 ? 16:57:34 also there's no fallback for the roka band and it should be a lower chance much like the commit previously did 16:58:04 tenofswords: it has a smaller weight than the warlords; can reduce it further of course 16:58:23 give it the same odds as what was just done 16:59:03 also, I was going to suggest a little random deformation of the cavey sections through some simply substs 16:59:30 oh most importantly it is crazy weird to have the entire level be patrolling 16:59:33 kilobyte: well i know no specifics because indeed there is nothing in master 16:59:41 but it sure sounded like not what i intended 16:59:51 buppy did you get all this in terms of why I would say such things 17:00:27 yeah, I understand 17:00:47 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:01:00 good 17:01:00 tenofswords: should I fix the Elf problem myself and push, or let you do everything? 17:01:17 so far the only change is s/PLACE/DEPTH/, as it would otherwise place every single time 17:01:20 former, these are all non-essential problems 17:01:38 (as all other Orc endings are minivaults) 17:06:28 ...does that let it still spawn? 17:06:56 yes, it took me quite some time to find a way to let it do so 17:07:21 sounds hacky 17:07:30 somehow, CHANCE made it fail to place every time because of blah blah dim(0,5) something 17:09:35 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:10:41 -!- the_glow1 is now known as the_glow 17:11:03 random question 17:11:07 what's going to happen with Dj 17:11:33 random might imply that you haven't asked this before 17:11:51 I don't remember the last time I asked it at any rate 17:12:09 And we are at 28 races... 17:14:06 Question about sewers ... I notice that the same small handful appear WAAAY more than some for me. I know clustering illusion and all can be quite strong, but would it be possible to get a more even distribution of the sewer vault picks? I'm assuming that some are coded to be vastly more common than others? 17:14:47 17:52:53 what's the plan with LO, Dj, Fo, and Vs? 19:44:42 (maybe wha'ts the plan with dj anyways 06:44:35 what's the plan with dj 10:01:23 what's the plan with Dj? 17:15:14 badplayer: look at the WEIGHT lines 17:15:32 wheals: I love how that implies devs have anything resembling plans 17:15:44 i'd say that devs have plans 17:15:51 the devteam, though 17:16:35 p.s. olgreb's wizlab should be an abandoned exploded poison reactor site 17:17:03 -!- Kite has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 17:17:15 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:17:46 Olgreb's Tower of Radiation 17:19:48 would the employees of said reactor be the staff of olgreb? 17:20:34 yesterday people were talking in here about how the max number of races is 27 on 32bit. how is that reconciled with the current 28 in trunk? presumably when 0.14 is released we'll be back at 27. but till then, what are the consequences of having 28 for now? 17:20:45 Does anyone know why sewer_kobolds is 3.5 times the default weight? 17:21:08 yesterday people were making things up to get rid of a really annoying person 17:21:27 haha 17:22:33 badplayer: i think it's the original, maybe that's why 17:22:38 which i wasn't a fan of but at least it worked 17:22:41 though that doesn't really explain it 17:23:05 "the original and specifically non-gimmickized so it can be reliably used often" 17:23:18 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:24 it is really boring and I would change it up, though, I admit 17:23:33 would anyone object to me taking a stab at normalizing the sewer distributions? 17:24:17 sadly my main objection would be I'd rather do it after I've stabbed at things, blasted excess of projects 17:24:43 1learn add devteam