00:00:30 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:33 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:01:47 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2061-g6c6fb9c (34) 00:02:29 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:02:33 <|amethyst> !watch neil 00:02:49 <|amethyst> !watch neil 00:02:51 <|amethyst> hm 00:02:54 No current CAO game for neil. 00:02:57 No current CAO game for neil. 00:03:01 <|amethyst> ah, just slow 00:03:05 <|amethyst> !lm * cao 00:03:08 2876904. [2014-01-21 06:02:57] theclanless the Nimble (L11 KoBe) killed Gastronok on turn 8664. (Lair:2) 00:03:12 <|amethyst> !watch theclanless 00:03:12 Watch theclanless at: https://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-theclanless 00:03:42 <|amethyst> oop 00:03:57 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:05:13 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:05:26 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:29 <|amethyst> !watch theclanless 00:05:51 Watch theclanless at: http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-theclanless 00:06:00 <|amethyst> there we go 00:06:05 <|amethyst> forgot that CAO doesn't do SSL 00:06:16 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-2061-g6c6fb9c (34) 00:09:20 Wish I had known about !watch earlier 00:09:26 or is it new? 00:09:29 new 00:09:40 Best irc command of 2014 00:11:00 gammafunk: didn't you see where |amethyst got it working on CAO just now? 00:11:17 rebooting Henzell twice in the process? 00:11:46 -!- Vaporware has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:46 -!- Vaporware has quit [Changing host] 00:11:46 -!- Vaporware has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:11 <|amethyst> &watch TheNoid 00:12:11 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:12:12 ^watch TheNoid 00:12:12 Watch TheNoid at: http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-TheNoid 00:12:17 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:12:23 <|amethyst> &watch Bruce 00:12:23 %watch Bruce 00:12:23 Watch Bruce at: https://crawl.s-z.org/#watch-Bruce 00:12:35 <|amethyst> %watch omil 00:12:35 No current CSZO game for omil. 00:12:38 <|amethyst> &watch omil 00:12:38 ?watch omil 00:13:00 <|amethyst> (will work once those bots add watch) 00:13:29 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:13:34 <|amethyst> anyway, I'm off for the night 00:13:53 &whereis omil 00:13:54 ?whereis omil 00:14:08 ??bots 00:14:08 bots[1/2]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Ruffell (RHF, #), Rotatell (CBRO, ^); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? and others) 00:14:29 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:14:35 ?players 00:15:28 -!- Vaporware is now known as DrinkMachine 00:18:43 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 00:19:32 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:27:20 SamB: The ways of |amethyst are mysterious, sometimes I can barely grasp his machinations... 00:29:22 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:30:06 best irc command? woo 00:31:10 if I never cut it as a REAL crawl dev, at least I can fall back on bot wmediting 00:31:28 or my superior iPhone typing skills 00:33:52 johnstein: How can i determine on which server a user is playing? 00:34:20 &locate gammafunk 00:34:24 !locate gammafunk 00:34:25 Failed to locate gammafunk. 00:34:34 !locate n1000 00:34:34 n1000 was last seen on CBRO (n1000, L23 DsAs of Kikubaaqudgha). 00:34:36 !locate gammafunk 00:34:37 Failed to locate gammafunk. 00:34:37 er 00:34:40 !locate araganzar 00:34:41 araganzar was last seen on CSZO (araganzar, L19 GrGl of Okawaru). 00:34:47 cool, thanks 00:34:54 !locateall araganzar 00:34:55 araganzar: CSZO 0.14-a, L19 GrGl of Okawaru 00:35:10 !locateall n1000 00:35:13 n1000: CAO 0.14-a, L14 DDEE of Makhleb | CBRO 0.14-a, L23 DsAs of Kikubaaqudgha | CLAN 0.14-a, L17 DrMo of Jiyva | CSZO 0.14-a, L18 TrMo of The Shining One 00:35:22 oh, so it's active games? 00:35:27 not currently played I guess 00:35:43 !locateall gammafunk 00:35:44 Failed to locate gammafunk. 00:35:53 well, uh, Sequell can at least guess 00:36:00 it's weird 00:36:00 &watch n1000 00:36:01 ^watch n1000 00:36:01 No current CBRO game for n1000. 00:36:30 I think !locateall only finds a game if you have a milestone 00:36:39 oh, probably 00:36:51 it's screwed me up before 00:37:02 so !locate just returns the milestone with the most recent timestamp? 00:37:10 well the game corresponding to that 00:37:14 watch looks for a ttyrec in the inprogress folders 00:37:20 ah, ok 00:37:44 I think whereis looks for a dump file or milestone 00:38:57 -!- Android14 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:09 !whereis araganzar 00:39:09 araganzar the Sneak (L6 SpEn) dead on D:3 on 2014-01-15 after 3612 turns. 00:39:36 hello :3 00:39:45 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 00:39:53 -!- Android14 is now known as dlane_skyward 00:40:24 I believe whereis has its own special files? 00:40:53 how is everyone xD 00:43:59 I can't remember. I was just looking at that code too 00:44:48 * SamB thinks there is a special feature macro just for that file 00:46:32 I have a question for you all...how long have you been playing DCSS? 00:47:38 !lg . 1 00:47:39 1/1044. ontoclasm the Ruinous (L6 HuWz), hit from afar by Edmund (orcish club) on D:5 on 2011-07-30 20:56:18, with 395 points after 4799 turns and 0:30:29. 00:47:45 -!- dlane_skyward has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:47:52 an ignominous start 00:51:45 i guess (s)he didn't really want to know 00:52:53 !gamesby 00:52:53 johnstein has played 151 games, between 2012-10-12 01:47:02 and 2014-01-21 05:23:39, won 3 (2.0%), high score 2115770, total score 7918869, total turns 1694295, play-time/day 0:38:38, total time 12d+12:46:00. 00:53:17 -!- Android14 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:32 -!- Android14 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:55:19 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 01:00:34 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:06:30 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 01:08:06 ontoclasm: The question was more important than the answer... 01:12:50 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:16:37 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:08 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:23 -!- bh has quit [Client Quit] 01:22:34 -!- Android14 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:25 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:24:15 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:28:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:34:31 -!- Silent_Samurai has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:38 -!- Somefellow has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 01:34:39 -!- Silent_Samurai is now known as Somefellow 01:35:12 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 01:39:11 -!- minmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:40:09 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:40:28 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:46:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:50:29 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:52:03 -!- scrubnubs has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:52:35 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:53:53 -!- broquaint has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:53:56 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:55:41 -!- Chris_Oelmueller is now known as ChrisOelmueller 02:04:00 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:04:13 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:08:20 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:20 -!- broquaint has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:32 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:10:02 !gamesby 02:10:02 SamB has played 1398 games, between 2011-08-08 15:21:44 and 2013-12-27 01:32:32, won 0, high score 298746, total score 2047943, total turns 3986873, play-time/day 0:21:54, total time 13d+6:50:58. 02:11:12 oh that was the author of recent prospective badcrd entry wasn't it 02:16:55 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2061-g6c6fb9c (34) 02:17:06 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:17:43 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 02:19:04 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:19:22 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:19:43 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 02:20:27 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:20:41 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:26:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:27:41 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:31:02 ??badcrd 02:31:02 badcrd[1/3]: David Floog 02:32:03 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: catalyst] 02:33:12 I'm just sad that the much-anticipated skype meeting with the dev team never materialised 02:34:58 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:37:28 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: vuvlflvrl] 02:37:56 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:41:07 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:41:13 -!- broquaint has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:41:26 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:42:26 -!- Kermitain has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130627161504]] 02:48:05 MysteryMachine (L2 NaWz) ASSERT(sel.size() == 1) in 'spl-book.cc' at line 1071 failed. (D:1) 03:04:19 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:07:26 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:13:30 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:19:59 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:22:40 Has runes giving resistances been proposed in the past? 03:23:23 -!- NekoRex has quit [Quit: "All the vain and ignorant will look up and shout 'Save us!', and I'll look down and whisper... 'Nyo.'"] 03:23:39 boldly even prefer current rune lock to that idea 03:24:01 the only case where it'd remotely matter is something like getting rPois after doing the branch with poisonous things in 03:24:03 i'll flesh out a full plan and post it, just wanted to check that it hadn't been shot down in the past 03:24:38 it probably has been, but feel free to try anyways, not like that opinion couldn't be changed if it existed 03:25:06 (almost every new addition to crawl has been shot down at some point) 03:25:25 heh :) 03:26:41 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:29:29 Remove `drop_mode` setting and in-game toggle for `single` behavior by chris 03:31:23 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:49:32 -!- Voker57 has quit [] 03:49:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 03:51:50 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:09:24 -!- floatboth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:13:49 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:15:52 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:15:52 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:15:54 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 04:16:57 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:19:07 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:19:09 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:23:41 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:31:00 -!- conted_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:31:43 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:41:57 -!- Insomniak has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:45:19 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 04:48:19 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 05:15:50 -!- denstark has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:29:06 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:37:28 -!- broquaint has joined ##crawl-dev 05:37:57 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:49:59 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 05:52:07 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:54:38 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:14:29 -!- _D_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:19:31 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:20:29 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:22:59 -!- Chon2 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:20 hi all 06:32:32 hello 06:37:02 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37:36 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:51:22 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:58:26 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 07:02:28 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:05:59 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:07:27 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 07:07:59 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:11:05 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:11:52 -!- Gmork has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:19:05 -!- jacobian has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:25:32 -!- Ragnor has quit [Disconnected by services] 07:26:33 -!- namad7 has quit [] 07:27:40 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:29:04 -!- DayBay has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:31:14 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:32:09 -!- Gmork has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:39:43 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 07:42:32 Morning 07:51:18 !messages 07:51:18 No messages for TZer0. 07:53:52 Is there a way to make a feature perform some action every turn without lua, or do I need to make it a monster instead? 07:57:45 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:02:03 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:02:55 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 08:06:18 -!- Matejii has quit [Client Quit] 08:08:58 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:10:53 -!- Adder_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:12:53 -!- MaxFrosty has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:14:07 Basil, what do you want the feature to do? 08:14:59 Iron Shot damage to creatures that are on it 08:16:16 and draw all not-player creatures closer to it 08:16:47 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:16:47 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 08:17:17 black hole? 08:17:23 Yes 08:17:38 just make an earth/tloc spell 08:18:12 teleport the mass of a planet nearby 08:18:20 "Yo Momma's Mass" 08:18:28 I did make it 08:18:52 currently it damages adjacent creatures though, instead of creatures on it 08:19:03 since it's a monster like fulminant prism 08:19:37 imo make it a portal that can autokill small monsters that get sucked in 08:20:17 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:20:34 That'll come later 08:20:48 currently it deals 5d20 ac-piercing damage to adjacent creatures 08:21:04 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:19 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:21:36 that is a lot 08:21:39 Yes 08:21:46 Mostly did it for testing 08:21:47 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:21:56 it can be adjusted after I put it on mantis 08:22:00 in ~10 min 08:23:16 thought: bring back degeneration, except make it turn the affected creature into a constricting lumpy flesh lump 08:23:34 reach + reverse-trample + constriction? 08:24:32 %git HEAD^{/[Cc]igotuvi's [Dd]egeneration} 08:24:54 07dolorous02 * 0.12-a0-2835-g5fd329d: Remove reference to Cigotuvi's Degeneration. 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5fd329dda25f 08:25:06 %git HEAD^{/[Cc]igotuvi's [Dd]egeneration}^^{/[Cc]igotuvi's [Dd]egeneration} 08:25:07 07kilobyte02 * 0.12-a0-2820-g416d22a: Make Cigotuvi's Degeneration an un-spell. 10(10 months ago, 16 files, 10+ 36-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=416d22acd9f1 08:25:17 it's cool, we can bring it back 08:25:20 it's not too late 08:27:30 mm 08:27:45 -!- Android14 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27:47 Next up, make Finisher gib creatures it kills and give you a spectral ally 08:28:17 Gah I feel so out of touch with dcss...guess I aught to fix some bugs. 08:28:17 yes, good idea 08:28:25 I have no idea what you guys are talking about. 08:28:27 :( 08:28:36 A spell I'm working on 08:28:38 Well, very little idea, anyways. 08:28:46 I think we were talking about that? 08:28:49 Basil: there should really be a spell that teleports something's skeleton out 08:29:17 And turns it into that lumpy thing, I suppose? 08:29:43 i think having your skeleton teleported out turns you into dead 08:29:54 unless you're a skeleton in which case it just teleports you 08:30:25 which would lead to some hilarious anti-lich usage 08:32:59 it creates a skeletal version of the same monster + a lump to fight! 08:33:05 -!- cr0ne has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:33:20 Cryp71c: that would be a cool necro DOT 08:33:22 Skeletal Rebellion 08:34:33 damages each turn, any non-DOT damage still hurts the skeleton, if there's skeleton left when it dies it tears its way out as a friendly skeleton 08:34:55 -!- sk has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 08:35:19 Could work only on non-undead monsters which "have a skeleton" 08:35:38 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:36:26 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:36:45 -!- Android14 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:37:07 -!- Android14 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:55:01 -!- Chon2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:57:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:05:52 -!- Gmork has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:07:28 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:09 -!- lukano has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:20:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:26:26 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:28:13 -!- robotcentaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:28:56 New spell: Singularity by Sage 09:29:25 hmm 09:29:31 s/creature/monster 09:31:51 -!- sanka has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:35:36 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:40:28 -!- Xzal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:42:59 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 09:45:33 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 26.0/20131215102647]] 09:47:45 -!- none has quit [Client Quit] 09:49:03 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:49:18 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:50:58 -!- maha_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 09:52:16 -!- nixor1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:59:43 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:00:56 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:01:14 -!- AndChat|49209 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:01:24 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:13 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:04 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 10:10:16 zeofar (L5 LOBe) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit exit_sewer[152] didn't get generated. (Sewer) 10:10:19 zeofar (L5 LOBe) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit exit_sewer[152] didn't get generated. (Sewer) 10:10:25 zeofar (L5 LOBe) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 708: Exit exit_sewer[152] didn't get generated. 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timeout: 264 seconds] 14:56:59 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58:16 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58:56 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:59:00 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 14:59:51 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 15:01:26 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:01:44 What if.. Yredelemnul granted you a regeneration aura for undead, along with making you partially so. 15:02:03 it totally wouldn't be a ripoff of the Warcraft 3 deathknight i swear 15:02:44 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 15:03:47 Well, some of your servants really DO heal annoyingly slow out of battle 15:04:03 To the point that I often don't even bother waiting around for them to heal up (though this is kind of bad) 15:04:34 I don't think he needs to give YOU regen (there's already drain life), but it would be nice to speed up out-of-battle army regen somehow 15:04:58 It's more of a lightening of the burden of having your allies wear out. 15:05:17 Because there's nothing more heartwrenching than watching your poor bros die ;-; 15:05:31 Bloax: they're already dead 15:05:32 if (you.god == GOD_YREDELEMNUL) monregen *= 2 15:05:50 "Yredelemnul supports your undead servants." 15:06:17 Could afford to be faster than that even, but something like it, sure 15:06:31 mm 15:06:36 (Though it does make me ponder a power that gives up a lot of YOUR health to heal your allies) 15:06:43 How does Beogh regen feel like 15:06:47 what if drain life also healed your allies 15:06:48 along with you 15:06:56 I haven't played Beogh in a while. Orcs heal a lot faster than undead, though. 15:07:03 I mean, 15:07:07 along with the regen kickup 15:07:07 are they also annoyingly slow 15:07:08 Undead have naturally slow regen 15:07:26 because if so, *2 regen would only put them at annoyingly slow regen still 15:07:34 orc warlord (11o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 86-138 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 32 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(60) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1671 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:07:34 %??orc warlord 15:07:39 orc knight (10o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 47-88 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 25 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(36) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 617 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:07:39 %??orc knight 15:07:43 ghoul (05n) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 129-166 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 3004(rot), 30 | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, 04eats corpses, evil | Res: 06magic(93), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 04rot | XP: 1787 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:07:43 %??ghoul 15:08:08 And the big Yred servants have more hp than orcs. 15:08:11 if I remember correctly isn't there a thing about how monsters have a fixed regeneration rate regardless of max health 15:08:26 Never more than 1 hp per turn 15:08:31 Even if they have fast regen 15:08:36 !learn add rr see {regeneration} 15:08:37 rr[1/1]: see {regeneration} 15:08:51 Special case player thralls? 15:08:55 dunno 15:09:04 I might poke around with it at some point 15:09:18 while it'd be annoying for monsters to heal at any decent rate it'd make sense for fast regen to, uh, actually mean fast regen 15:09:23 Since it does seem a quality-of-life enhancement 15:09:38 if we're talking about quality-of-life improvements 15:09:42 bone dragon (15D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 148-210 | AC/EV: 20/4 | Dam: 30, 20, 2007(trample) | 07undead, evil, sense invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(106), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3694 | Sz: Huge | Int: animal. 15:09:42 %??bone dragon 15:09:48 (clearly so I can continue to buff klowns) 15:10:12 maybe just set their regen to at least 1% per turn 15:10:13 (also commit that yred ?HW change please) 15:10:18 making hp regen not (maxhp >= 20 ? rr == maxhp/6+10 : maxhp/3) and instead just maxhp/3 would be pleasant 15:10:26 although 3 days is perhaps a little soon to get antsy about that 15:11:22 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 15:11:54 Also say, do monsters raise in HD as they kill things? 15:13:06 Also ontoclasm: Any ideas for formicid looks? 15:14:06 The monsters are currently pretty placeholderish, and changing them would also mean changing the player sprite. 15:14:12 which i don't mind because it looks kinda silly 15:15:48 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:23:43 Bloax: monsters that get experience get more HD, yes 15:23:59 Mmh. 15:24:08 Bloax: so you can get more xp by making zombies out of everything you kill, and letting monsters kill the zombies and get more hd 15:24:58 probably not a significant amount 15:25:27 I imagine it would be less than you'd lose by some of those zombies killing the monsters and giving you only half back 15:25:29 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:49 or letting the zombies hurt the monsters at all really 15:27:57 -!- Android14 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:06 -!- Android14 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30:41 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2063-ge7b4354: Fix a few issues with the mesmerisation spell 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 20+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7b4354f359a 15:30:41 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2064-g83fed73: Don't let convokers consider nearby plants to be allies 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=83fed73ead37 15:30:41 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2065-g9efeb9d: Don't have monsters cast beneficial spells on firewood 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9efeb9daeaac 15:30:41 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2066-geaa420e: Actually give monsters their intended ammo on creation 10(49 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eaa420e7ea3d 15:30:41 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2067-g7281e07: And now let those monsters actually throw the items they've been given 10(46 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7281e07c72da 15:30:41 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2068-g45c0367: Don't making flying creatures/monsters completely immune to being netted 10(42 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=45c03679f2dc 15:30:41 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2069-gf689adf: Actually make netted winged fliers fall to the ground 10(39 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f689adf1dc10 15:31:45 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:03 firewood??? 15:33:03 No-XP stationary monsters other than tentacles and tentacle segments. 15:33:10 hahaha 15:34:09 Yes, convokers would not bother recalling when around plants and just cast might on them instead 15:34:14 Fortunately Vaults has very few plants :P 15:34:46 0.13 fedhas tactics 15:35:12 pff, some of those are definitely getting backported 15:35:26 0.12 fedhas tactics :v 15:35:40 Oh, yes, backporting things 15:35:51 >.> 15:36:04 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:54 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:54 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 15:37:54 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:53 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:42:32 Oh, incidentally, it wouldn't work for Fedhas anyway 15:42:41 Noooo 15:42:41 Since the plants did still need to be allied with the convokers 15:42:57 So, in fact, being with Fedhas would prevent it from even happening with ambient plants 15:43:06 the solution is to have enough ac that you can just kite around a thorn hunter 15:43:07 Make plants, aX 15:43:19 for all the briar patches 15:43:26 Haha 15:43:58 I am not sure that is actually less dangerous :P 15:43:58 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:45:32 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 15:46:43 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:55:34 Bloax: FWIW, I'm partial to the current Fo doll, and would rather see the mon tiles based on it than other way around 15:56:40 and the current monster tiles are terrible and so those should definitely be replaced 15:57:53 oh, and the dark maul tile might be missing a shadow. cc ontoclasm 15:59:38 and now I must get some sleep 16:01:46 -!- syllogism has quit [] 16:02:57 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:05 -!- andrewhl has quit [Quit: andrewhl] 16:08:11 maybe the dark maul is so dark, that it is its own shadow 16:08:27 probably not though 16:13:01 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:17:05 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:17:44 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19:07 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:19:24 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 16:22:22 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 16:27:08 buppy: okay, i can fix that 16:27:53 Bloax: i dunno about formicids; my initial thought is to look at the d&d ant guys 16:30:45 http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/MM35_gallery/MM35_PG108.jpg Interesting. 16:31:09 yeah 16:31:38 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:32:01 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:32:29 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 16:32:36 formians, that's what they're called 16:35:00 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:35:29 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:35:38 I'm still more inclined towards Myrmicids than Formicids. 16:35:45 me too 16:35:46 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1YfI5euTyTE/T1gO4kZkWII/AAAAAAAACZ0/71DinlCOzpk/s1600/JasonGodbout_insect%2Bpeople.jpg 16:35:48 and then you could have a Md race. 16:35:52 >:) 16:36:03 call them myrmidettes 16:36:13 well, apts are somewhat similar 16:37:48 !apt Fo 16:37:48 Fo: Fighting: 0, Short: 1, Long: 0, Axes: 0, Maces: 0, Polearms: 0, Staves: 0, Slings: 1, Bows: -2, Xbows: 0, Throw: -2*, Armour: 2!, Dodge: -1, Stealth: 3, Shields: 0, UC: 0, Splcast: 0, Conj: -1, Hexes: 2, Charms: 0, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: -1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: -2, Earth: 2, Poison: 3!, Inv: 2, Evo: 2, Exp: 2!, HP: -1, MP: 0 16:37:57 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:00 Man-ant Dwarves 16:39:36 * xFleury thinks they kinda look like Centaurs in the picture, except, replace horse with ant. 16:39:39 MDD: Fighting: 2, Short: 1, Long: 0, Axes: 2, Maces: 2, Polearms: -1, Staves: -1, Slings: -1, Bows: -2, Xbows: 1, Throw: -1, Armour: 3, Dodge: -1, Stealth: -3, Shields: 2, 16:39:55 Antaurs xD 16:40:18 it's like yaktaurs 16:40:20 but worse 16:40:51 forget crossbows, they use assault rifles 16:40:55 Is it a yaktaur a yak+horse? If so, I never noticed, lol 16:41:03 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:41:37 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:41:50 change polyphemus to an elephantaur 16:41:56 s/Is it a/Is a 16:44:08 it's a centaur 16:44:09 apparently centaur actually doesn't have any sort of etymological makeup 16:44:11 except yak instead of horse 16:44:19 they're named after some tribe 16:44:28 who were archers that rode horses 16:47:39 -!- _oiseaux has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:48:02 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 16:50:08 should you be able to learn necromutation in lichform? 16:50:22 you currently can't, but you can recast it 16:50:28 -!- Brokkr has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:50:40 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:53:38 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:56:10 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:56:34 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 16:58:38 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:47 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:03:21 Probably this is one of (many) issues related to lichform considering things useless that are only TEMPORARILY useless (and not even quite true here, even) 17:03:40 So yes, probably you should be able to, not that it is generally an issue that you can't 17:04:00 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:04:09 !seen dpeg 17:04:09 I last saw dpeg at Sun Jan 19 23:13:38 2014 UTC (1d 23h 50m 31s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: leaving'. 17:04:31 that's what i was thinking 17:04:52 on a related note, what's the preferred way of submitting a patch to fix a bug report? 17:05:08 open a new case with the patch, and refer to the bug; or add it to the bug case? 17:05:16 Add it to the existing issue 17:05:18 add it to the existing issue 17:05:25 super, thanks 17:05:25 Mine has a capital letter :P 17:05:30 :C 17:06:38 [✔] - Posted first. [✔] - Capital letter. [X] - Period on the end. 17:07:31 Haha 17:11:02 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:13:43 -!- AlsoZeor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:15:29 [✔] Unicode check marks. 17:15:40 [X] Unicode X marks. 17:16:00 well, technically... 17:17:07 Ah, true, I should have used: [✘] 17:17:59 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:18:04 There's probably few here that can see Unicode though; I don't think many IRC clients support it. 17:20:54 why do you think that? 17:21:16 it took me a while to get mine to stop trying to send stuff as latin-1 when possible, though 17:25:06 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:44 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:50 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:31:53 I can see it 17:38:12 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:48:47 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:54:52 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:59:33 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:00:25 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:01:02 -!- Sizzell has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:01:18 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:05:53 -!- Escalator has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:08:43 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 18:15:33 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 18:18:09 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:18:13 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:19:23 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:20:00 Is there any way to turn DUR_DEATH_CHANNEL into STATUS_DEATH_CHANNEL without breaking save compatibility? 18:20:51 Or otherwise make it so that DChan property on a fixedart displays the proper light 18:22:53 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:22 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:39 -!- astralTentacle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:26:37 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:27:33 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:30:42 Does it really need a light if it's effectively just a brand on the weapon? 18:31:01 mm, I guess not 18:31:07 (Also, does the fact that you're asking imply that just wielding the weapon lets ally kills create spectrals too?) 18:31:14 I was going for consistency with "Air 18:31:15 No. 18:31:21 Then it definitely shouldn't have the light 18:31:24 Alright 18:31:25 Since it's not even the same thing 18:31:32 right, forgot about that bit 18:33:31 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:34:46 idea 18:35:13 -!- Xzal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:35:14 wait no it's bad 18:36:08 it probably doesn't need a light at all if it's just an effect that applies to the weapon and nothing else 18:36:23 i.e. if only killing something with that weapon raises a spectral version of it 18:36:42 question: how would that compare to reaping? 18:37:13 it would be the same basically 18:37:25 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:37:40 unknown monster: "zombie hydra" 18:37:40 %??zombie hydra 18:37:49 -!- Naphistim has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:37:56 zombie (07z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 13 | HP: 91-128 | AC/EV: 0/0 | Dam: 14 per head | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(17), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 313 | Sz: Big | Int: plant. 18:37:56 %??hydra zombie 18:37:58 spectral thing (03W) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 64-94 | AC/EV: 2/0 | Dam: 1413(drain) per head | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 680 | Sz: Big | Int: plant. 18:37:58 %??spectral hydra 18:38:15 huh 18:38:18 can it not do that anymore 18:38:30 looks like it's probably just the name that's messed up 18:38:44 unknown monster: "zombie titan" 18:38:44 %??zombie titan 18:38:47 titan zombie (07z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 20 | HP: 142-194 | AC/EV: 8/0 | Dam: 51 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(26), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 843 | Sz: Giant | Int: plant. 18:38:47 %??titan zombie 18:38:52 spectral titan (03W) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 104-139 | AC/EV: 12/0 | Dam: 51 | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1258 | Sz: Giant | Int: plant. 18:38:52 %??spectral titan 18:39:07 titan (06C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 82-134 | AC/EV: 10/3 | Dam: 55 | 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(186), 10elec++, 12drown | XP: 2589 | Sp: b.lightning (3d24), minor healing (2d10), airstrike (0-50) | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 18:39:07 %??titan 18:39:09 anyway, spectral versions of things have better defenses and speed than zombies, but less HP 18:39:13 also they're magic immune and can fly 18:39:25 And dchan spectrals time out. 18:39:47 also leaves the corpses 18:39:50 in case you want to use them 18:39:54 heh 18:40:00 I was thinking of making those explode 18:40:07 what is this even for 18:40:12 Finisher 18:40:27 you probably don't need to make the corpses explode if you're already raising spectral things from them 18:40:45 Finisher buff? 18:41:15 mm 18:41:51 Hopefully dchan doesn't too similar to Zonguldrok's niche 18:41:59 ??evilmike[$ 18:41:59 evilmike[4/4]: i have a habit of telling people to make things explode 18:42:13 s/doesn't/isn't 18:42:34 (I have no idea what we're talking about, but that seems relevant.) 18:42:39 ??zonguldruk 18:42:39 zonguldruk ~ zonguldrok ~ sword of zonguldrok[1/1]: +9,+9 double sword of {reaping} (kills with the sword reanimate as friendly undead). All corpses not killed by this sword will immediately reanimate as hostile undead that do not provide XP. Hope you have some permafood (or IOOD or disintegrate)! Even wielding this is bad if you worship one of the good gods. 18:42:48 nobody uses zonguldrok so all you have to do is make it into something people use, and you're good 18:42:58 imo it would still be significantly different 18:43:06 like, it's a similar thing, but not exactly the same 18:43:06 This would let you eat!! 18:43:08 it's okay for things to be similar 18:43:09 perfect weapon 18:43:24 it would need to be an okay weapon otherwise as well though 18:45:37 should I mention my latest horrible idea 18:45:43 yes 18:46:01 A weapon that is insanely powerful, but has the drawback of cutting in half your max-HP while using it 18:46:12 that sounds like something nobody would use 18:46:20 I said it was a horrible idea 18:46:27 so basically a chaos weapon then 18:47:10 what about more weapons that do miscast effects on monsters 18:47:28 Sword of Explosions 18:47:45 well preferably not that 18:47:53 damn, hexes and charms miscasts still use the old enchantment ones 18:47:53 should be a weapon that does enchantment miscasts on monsters 18:47:58 that should probably be fixed 18:48:01 we dont have enough deaths to berserk stuff 18:48:06 especially since berserk is kind of a bad miscast effect 18:49:24 summoning miscasts obviously 18:50:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:50:43 -!- Adeon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:50:46 ??summoning miscast 18:50:46 summonings miscast[1/1]: 1: 5-13 dmg / spatial vortex / imp 2: 2-4 spatial vorts / common demon / 2-3 lesser 3: abomination / greater demon / 2-3 common / banish / hostile malign gateway 18:50:46 ? 18:50:59 that might be too good 18:51:05 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:51:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:51:50 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:51:50 -!- AlsoZeor is now known as Zeor 19:00:59 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:01:07 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:11:54 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:48 -!- uglyjohn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:16:39 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:40 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:19:21 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:26 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:52 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:21:22 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:51 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 19:27:05 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:27:49 ElMuncho (L13 LOFE) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 604: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Lair:7) 19:32:48 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:33:37 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:34:43 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:35:04 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:35:08 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:35:38 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:36:25 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:50 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:40:26 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:34 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:43:50 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 19:44:11 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:44:35 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:46:11 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:47:43 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:52:49 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:55:36 -!- Jabberwockqqq has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:58:07 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:05:59 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:06:07 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:13 -!- Chris_Oelmueller has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:13 -!- ChrisOelmueller has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:06:16 -!- Chris_Oelmueller is now known as ChrisOelmueller 20:06:52 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 20:12:56 -!- Neuroprancer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:13:57 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:18:45 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 20:27:00 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all!] 20:27:15 You attempt to give life to the dead... Before your eyes, flesh is ripped from the corpse! _You see a puff of smoke. 20:27:19 What happened? 20:27:37 Wasn't enough room to place the zombie? 20:30:31 -!- Turgor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:31:11 DracoOmega: Not sure if you were around for when I first made asterion (mantis 0007474). He's a unique mino of makhleb with major destruct, and currently spectral weapon + always a demon weapon. 20:31:40 Feedback appreciated; he's been through a few iterations since people weren't excited about his previous spell, greater servant 20:32:01 I'm aware of it vaguely though haven't taken a look myself 20:32:07 -!- Naphistim has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:32:09 Certainly a monster with spectral weapon seems potentially interesting 20:32:48 I may need to tweak the spectre behaviour with something like conditional blink closer, but otherwise the spell worked fine with no modification 20:33:19 Thanks to the hard work of ... whoever it was who made that 20:33:38 I, um... I actually think I forget who implemented that now 20:33:48 Even though I helped them along a bit :P 20:34:00 Ed Gonzalez is seems 20:34:02 Poor lainiw; nobody remembers him :( 20:34:09 ah, lainiw then? 20:34:21 lainiw aka madreisz aka our formerly resident insane felid player :b 20:34:30 Okay, I do remember him 20:34:34 I just didn't remember it WAS him 20:34:48 He did a good job making the spell work for monsters 20:35:17 ??lainiw 20:35:18 I don't have a page labeled lainiw in my learndb. 20:35:21 ??madreisz 20:35:21 madreisz[1/4]: Loves playing felids. Insane. 20:35:27 well 20:35:51 Anyway, I'm afraid I can't say that I'll get much chance to have a real look at what you've done for a little while; I've been so preoccupied with other stuff 20:36:01 Though maybe once I have this straightened away ^^; 20:36:09 Well just basic feedback like that is ok, so thanks 20:36:26 Perhaps I can get grunt to merge it 20:36:28 <_< 20:36:45 * Grunt splits. Grunt shrieks in your mind. 20:37:09 Oh, two Grunts, twice the productivity! 20:37:36 * Grunt splits. Grunt splits. Grunt splits. A cacophony of accursed wailing tears at your sanity! You suddenly lose the ability to move! 20:38:03 Those X ... are really my least favorite X. Not that they aren't an interesting monster 20:38:22 What are your favorite, aboms and tmons? 20:39:11 <3 20:40:32 mmm 20:40:52 Making a corpse explode is proving more difficult than giving a weapon death channel. 20:42:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:27 rip "It explodes!" 20:42:45 Basil: Inner flamed corpse delivery. Kiku fixed 20:43:21 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:43:48 -!- daek_ is now known as Daekdroom 20:44:39 killed from afar by an ogre... with a something 20:44:58 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:45:41 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:35 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:51:03 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:51:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:51:41 -!- MP2E has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:53:31 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 20:55:09 Dithmengos extra-appreciates mottled dragon zombie kills by Arrhythmia 20:55:55 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:57:36 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:15 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:06:20 summon inner flamed ball lightning 21:10:07 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:10:08 add fulminant as a prefix 21:11:55 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:05 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:05 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 21:13:05 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:07 -!- xnavy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:56 fulminant hydra 21:21:13 -!- Spavven has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:23:17 -!- Hypereia has quit [] 21:25:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:28:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 21:30:14 -!- tsohg__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:16 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:18 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47:19 fr: continue unique name pairing by adding an Astrid to go with Asterion 21:49:30 Lamia and .... or does that not count 21:50:12 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:50:21 ??lamia 21:50:21 lamia[1/4]: The naga queen! Lives in mid-to-late Snake. Casts IOOD, parrow, mesmerise, haste, and Teleport Self. Gone in .14. 21:50:35 -!- Tarragon has joined ##crawl-dev 21:50:57 !tell Tarragon Have you seen Thyme recently? 21:50:57 gammafunk: OK, I'll let tarragon know. 21:52:04 FR: next april 1st, rename mennas "Mennas the Menace", keep him exactly the same except give him a sling with some stones 21:52:29 Never heard of him. 21:52:29 G-Flex: Maybe make him loud instead of quiet? 21:52:38 -!- Tarragon is now known as Basil 21:52:50 yes, give him speech lines and such 21:53:15 Got the corpse explosion working though, along with the spectral reaping 21:53:32 so new Finisher is done aside from some interface annoyances I'll get to later 21:53:41 corpse explosion??? 21:54:23 Yes 21:54:32 do elaborate 21:54:33 I made it detonate everything you hit 21:54:34 Basil you are a hero 21:54:35 when that thing dies 21:54:40 wouldn't that hurt you 21:54:40 a lot 21:54:43 No 21:54:50 It's standard disint blowing up 21:54:54 oh that kind 21:54:59 Or at least, when it drops a corpse 21:54:59 hope you don't want to raise dead I guess 21:55:05 It makes spectrals. 21:55:11 they're temporary, right? 21:55:13 Yes 21:55:16 like regular death channel 21:55:21 time to toggle chunks off autopickup 21:55:29 sounds closer to a weapon I'd actually consider using then 21:55:29 That's the annoyance, yes 21:55:37 Do they also have inner flame, the spectrals 21:55:42 No 21:55:46 alas 21:55:51 Can't inner flame everything 21:56:03 crown unrand with permanent inner flame everything in los 21:56:04 (my secret april 1st plan is to commit a zig set that will finally stop endless zig raiding) 21:56:18 (you can probably guess what kind of set it is) 21:56:35 hehe, I bet it's really not very nice, is it? 21:56:40 tenofswords: Think I could get away with making the corpse_explode function remove chunks it generates from autopickup? 21:56:49 tenofswords: a murderous one, obviously 21:57:12 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:57:19 Is this a single set or a .... set of sets 21:57:25 Is that often a nuisance with OOD or similar? 21:58:00 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:25 I have heard of people doing the same for OOD, yes, although it's quite a ways easier to use \ nowadays at least 21:58:50 is Finisher still speed branded 21:58:50 mmm 21:58:53 Yes 21:58:57 ??finisher 21:58:57 finisher[1/1]: The +3,+5 scythe "Finisher" {speed, Str+3}. 21:59:07 good 21:59:12 So should I care about the chunk autopickup or just leave it to the player to fix it? 21:59:16 hopefully the plusses got notched up to make up for scythes being bad 21:59:18 That's kind of boring; doesn't it have some special effect? 21:59:27 no, thus such efforts 21:59:46 I've been working on that special effect. 22:00:09 And I'll put it on mantis now. 22:00:14 -!- tenofswords has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:25 I guess it further increases crawl's "DooMed" level 22:00:28 ?doom 22:00:30 ??doom 22:00:30 I don't have a page labeled doom in my learndb. Did you mean: doome, door. 22:00:38 ??doomed 22:00:38 doomed ~ doome[1/1]: the lorde doome. addicted to sprint 22:01:12 Speaking of, would I have to add Firestarter to zigsprint manually or does it just place all unrands 22:01:32 Basil: Isn't that in the des file? 22:02:13 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:02:14 I didn't check 22:02:30 Idly curious if anyone knew the answer off-hand, but I'll also get to that "later" 22:03:02 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:03:31 -!- fearitself has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:08:33 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:20:14 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21:19 Brand Finisher with Spectral Reaping. by Sage 22:22:54 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:37 Basil: imo "generates an unholy channel" is kind of an awkward phrase 22:24:54 "tunes into an unholy channel" 22:24:58 * Grunt hands Basil the spectral remote. 22:25:09 -!- Gmork has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:25:55 I would go with "reaps the souls of its victims" 22:25:56 but 22:26:01 something else already uses the verb "reaps" 22:26:41 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:26:51 Is 'Enslaves the souls of its victims' too close to Yred's thing? 22:27:11 maybe "steals the souls" 22:27:15 thesaurus time 22:28:20 "claims" maybe 22:28:21 don't know 22:28:28 Good enough 22:29:16 ??finisher 22:29:16 finisher[1/1]: The +3,+5 scythe "Finisher" {speed, Str+3}. 22:29:17 Quote for reaper: "You STEAL mens SOULS...and make them your SLAVES!" 22:29:22 does it still have speed? 22:29:23 er finisher 22:29:26 Yes 22:29:32 gammafunk: yes 22:29:47 ??scythe 22:29:47 scythe[1/3]: polearm, 14 damage, -4 accuracy, 20 delay, 100% junk. 22:29:47 2.0 aut halberd would be pretty sketchy 22:29:53 even if it had reaping 22:29:56 I would maybe actually use finisher then 22:30:15 wouldn't it still take a boatload of skill for min delay 22:30:19 or is the speed brand applied first 22:30:46 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:55 Basil: Now is the time to get the Castlevania quote into crawl 22:31:14 * SamB hasn't really played any castlevania 22:31:20 gammafunk: could always add the "what is a man?" bit to the description for humans 22:31:25 although that was actually a quote from some famous dude 22:31:28 so attribute it to him instead 22:31:58 -- some famous dude 22:32:19 yes 22:32:33 "What is a man, yo?" -- a guy 22:32:47 http://legendsoflocalization.com/lets-investigate-a-miserable-pile-of-secrets/ 22:33:51 mmm 22:33:56 Explosive. 22:34:01 very nice. 22:34:14 http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Malraux#Quotes 22:34:16 there we go 22:34:55 G-Flex: Huh, my world is changed forever 22:35:39 oh come on. no Castlevania quotes. 22:35:45 We need to pack crawl with Borges quotes. 22:35:58 bh: Asterion has a Broges quote 22:36:02 er Borges 22:36:07 it's not a castlevania quote 22:36:13 Even though I didn't know who he was at the time! 22:36:16 it's an André Malraux quote, clearly 22:36:24 mmm 22:36:32 24 skill to mindelay 22:36:47 not 26? 22:36:50 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:36:56 Speed rounding is a little funny. 22:36:59 ah 22:37:01 I'd like an option to pop up the skill screen when I hit mindelay on my weapon 22:37:02 still a whole lot 22:37:05 Right 22:37:22 ??demon blade 22:37:22 demon blade[1/1]: A terrible weapon, forged in the fires of Hell. (single-handed Long Blade, Dmg 13, Acc -1, Delay 13) 22:37:25 Probably just fix mindelay 22:37:26 Even with my fun additions it's a sort of dubious weapon 22:37:46 14 dam for 26 skill is not really great for a two-hander, even with speed and a cool effect :P 22:37:58 I'd set it to +0/+10, but power creep might be a concern 22:38:18 obviously also give it rTorment 22:38:25 and evocable lich form 22:38:31 (yes, both) 22:38:31 People will like using something quirky like that 22:38:39 It's certainly a lot better than what it was 22:38:52 Now on to fix... 22:38:54 ??glaive_of_prune 22:38:55 glaive of prune[1/3]: +4,+12 vorpal purple glaive. Unfortunately will *not* turn you into a prune, even if you are a scummy. 22:38:59 PRUNEFORM 22:39:05 didn't that used to make things bleed purple 22:39:10 haha, really? 22:39:19 ??glaive of prune[2 22:39:19 glaive of prune[2/3]: Zin still hates the weapon, though. 22:39:23 ??glaive of prune[3 22:39:23 glaive of prune[3/3]: GOD HATES FIGS 22:39:31 -!- Sizzell has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:39:38 rip CSZO 22:39:45 mmm 22:39:56 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:57 Clearly make creatures explode into sultanas on kill 22:40:06 can spriggans wield glaives 22:40:18 if not, do it, to make them mad 22:40:42 also it would be more appropriate for them to explode into plums 22:40:47 We already have pillars of salt. Make it occassionally turn enemies into prunes. 22:41:32 I still like the idea of more weapons with miscast-like effects, like distortion/plutonium sword/scythe of curses have 22:41:34 but I have no idea what 22:41:45 I guess I just like the idea of varied effects that sort of stick to a theme 22:41:53 Yes, but in practice plut sword isn't that great beyond being a high damage weapon 22:42:07 ??transmutations miscasts 22:42:07 transmutations miscasts ~ transmutations miscast[1/1]: By severity: 1: 1-11 damage or random uselessness. 2: 3-25 damage, 0-18 {contam}, {petrification}, or {confusion}. 3: 3-20 dmg AND 0-34 {contam}, 5-27 dmg AND delete mutation, 5-27 dmg AND 1-2 bad mutations. 22:42:16 ??spell schools 22:42:16 spell schools[1/1]: Conjurations, Hexes, Charms, Summonings, Necromancy, Translocations, Transmutations, Fire Magic, Ice Magic, Air Magic, Earth Magic, Poison Magic 22:42:22 petrification is good I guess 22:42:25 ??hexes miscast 22:42:25 enchantment miscast[1/1]: 1: corona / random uselessness 2: curse / slowing / berserk 3: 3x curse / paralysis / confusion / 0-18 glow. Charms and Hexes miscasts still use the old Enchantment miscasts. 22:42:30 the poly tends to heal enemies 22:42:38 does it actually poly them still 22:42:40 tlocs miscast!! 22:42:40 or does it mutate them 22:42:45 Basil: that's just distortion 22:42:47 yes it does poly them and also mutate 22:42:50 oh 22:42:51 that's weird 22:42:59 can't poly & though 22:43:01 imo hex and charm miscasts really need to be split up 22:43:07 Phew... 22:43:11 At least *I* didn't break this 22:43:12 The elephant evaporates and durns into a hellephant! 22:43:21 ??is cszo down 22:43:21 is cszo down[1/1]: If you have DNS problems try crawl.dobrazupa.org (webtiles + ssh). If you have too much lag try the other two IPs: dobrazupa.org and admin.dobrazupa.org (ssh only). If none of those solutions work, check if Sizzell is on this channel. If not, cszo probably really is down. 22:43:24 although I'm not sure what the difference would be 22:43:24 s/durns/turns 22:43:29 Monsters in arena seem to be retreating oddly when hit by ranged attacks 22:43:35 since hexes are basically just bad charms anyway 22:43:38 I worried it was due to my fleeing changes, but apparently not 22:43:47 I can't get it to happen OUTSIDE of arena, though 22:43:47 "Not My Problem" 22:44:18 CSZO seems to be dead. o.O 22:44:37 mmm 22:44:50 Whatever I do, I should probably not make the next artefact explosive 22:45:05 Are you trying to become the michael bay of crawl dev? 22:45:56 ??evilmike[explod 22:45:56 I don't have a page labeled evilmikeexplod in my learndb. 22:46:02 s??evilmike[explod 22:46:03 Or maybe that's not how it works 22:46:03 evilmike[4/4]: i have a habit of telling people to make things explode 22:46:17 cool guys don't look at explosions 22:47:08 ??is cszo down 22:47:08 is cszo down[1/1]: If you have DNS problems try crawl.dobrazupa.org (webtiles + ssh). If you have too much lag try the other two IPs: dobrazupa.org and admin.dobrazupa.org (ssh only). If none of those solutions work, check if Sizzell is on this channel. If not, cszo probably really is down. 22:47:09 give spriggan's knife cleaving 22:47:16 because you stab all around you haphazardly 22:47:30 like in some kind of looney tunes cartoon 22:47:34 Did there use to be a command to test CSZO? something like 22:47:36 ??cszo status 22:47:36 I don't have a page labeled cszo_status in my learndb. 22:47:38 we're pack maybe 22:47:43 *Back 22:47:53 !learn add is_cszo_down probably 22:47:55 is cszo down[2/2]: probably 22:48:06 It's fine here? 22:48:14 !learn del is_cszo_down[2] 22:48:14 Deleted is cszo down[2/2]: probably 22:48:19 it's back 22:48:34 I meant that to be a general-use entry 22:48:35 :P 22:48:49 lol, "if you have to ask, it's probably down" 22:48:56 obviously we need a dagger unrand with reaching 22:49:17 +22 base dam/-7 acc dagger 22:49:31 ??dagger 22:49:32 dagger[1/1]: A long knife or a very short sword, which can be held or thrown. (small Short Blade; Dam 4 Acc +6 Delay 10) Notable for getting an initially larger Stabbing bonus than any other weapon. 22:49:36 or +18 base rather 22:49:37 or a long sword with evocable magic dart when your health is full 22:49:40 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 22:49:52 or whatever spell would be appropriate there 22:50:09 ??spriggans knife 22:50:09 the spriggans knife[1/1]: The +4,+10 Spriggan's Knife {MR EV+4 Dex+4 Stlth++}. This knife was made by Spriggans, or for Spriggans, or possibly from Spriggans. Anyway, it's in some way associated with those fey folk. Actually a dagger. 22:50:21 huh, this doesn't have a brand? 22:50:36 ??knife of accuracy 22:50:36 knife of accuracy[1/3]: +27,-1 thin dagger. Note that weapon to-hit enchantments don't affect stabbing. No longer generated as of 0.14. 22:50:55 ??unrands 22:50:56 unrands ~ unrand ~ unrandart[1/3]: An artefact of fixed appearance and properties - sometimes unique ones that are unavailable anywhere else. Spoiler at: http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/blobs/master/crawl-ref/source/art-data.txt 22:51:14 spriggan's knife seems at least useful though 22:51:22 rip cszo (again) 22:51:26 you could get something like +6 EV out of it and a bunch of stealth, and the damage enchantment is good 22:51:44 yah, down for me too 22:51:51 Maybe Flaming Death should have Sticky Flame brand 22:51:54 Someone is probably browsing the /rawdata or /morgue folder again 22:52:06 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 22:52:26 and Chilly Death can have Freeze spell on hit? 22:52:36 1learn add is_cszo_down ¯\(°_o)/¯ 22:52:40 Those seem "quite powerful" though 22:52:43 -!- DayBay has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:52:46 those both sound really powerful 22:52:56 finisher needs to be "evil" if it has built-in death channel 22:52:58 chilly death already has freeze brand, no 22:53:04 MarvinPA: good point 22:53:08 Freeze spell, not brand 22:53:17 freeze spell with freeze brand sounds a bit redundant 22:53:22 ??freeze 22:53:22 freeze[1/3]: A level 1 spell found in a book of Frost that never misses its target, but only has a range of one. It ignores the target's AC, bypassing damage reduction. It also can slow cold-blooded enemies, making it useful all the way through Lair. There's some sort of semi-stun that paralyses for a fraction of a turn depending on power. 1d13 at max power. 22:53:24 although the spell does ignore AC 22:53:38 and would be applied irrespective of damage dealt 22:53:59 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:54:00 Some kind of unique ice-themed effect other than "more cold damage" might be nice 22:54:09 MarvinPA: Thanks for that 22:54:10 slow? 22:54:14 nah 22:54:23 Possibly, yeah something like metab. englaciation 22:54:25 also probably doesn't need to blow up corpses since the point of death channel is that you still have corpses to do things with plus the already-mentioned annoyance with autopickup of chunks everywhere 22:54:44 that's the point of the /spell/ death channel 22:54:53 people using finisher probably aren't necromancers 22:55:10 the bigger problem imo is that you can't sac corpses 22:55:18 well then it may as well be reaping 22:55:22 why 22:55:33 i don't see much reason why someone using finisher wouldn't want to also use death channel if they could 22:55:41 assuming they wanted to use both of these things at the same time 22:55:41 if it might as well be either, make it the more cool and unique option 22:56:10 I do think the explosiveness is unnecessary and possibly problematic though 22:56:20 at least a few gods like corpse sacrifices, so you wouldn't want to use it with them 22:56:29 trog, oka, makhleb, lugonu, forget-who-else 22:56:30 mikee_: Pretty sure that you can't make two spectrals from one creature the way I wrote it 22:56:35 -!- N78291 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:56:43 right, nor should you be able to 22:57:18 Basil: is that finisher supposed to make things explode on the killing blow (instead of when hit)? 22:57:38 MF_EXPLODE_somethingIForgot 22:57:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:57:46 is set whenever the creature is hit 22:58:18 So if you tap it once and hit it with bolt of cold it will blow up if it would drop a corpse 22:58:19 Does that override jory's cloud of blood somehow; would be amusing if it did 22:58:24 imo just remove the explosion bit, it would get annoying and you wouldn't want to use it with at least four different gods that people use a lot when using heavy melee weapons 22:58:49 right, I was wondering if you wanted it like reaping where it has to do the killing hit 22:59:13 Is that how reaping works? 22:59:31 I thought it was reapingDamage/totalDamage of the time 23:00:17 maybe, the only reaping thing I have used is zonguldrok and it failed to reap sometimes 23:00:26 I assumed it was when a zombie had the last hit 23:00:48 ??scythe_of_curses 23:00:48 scythe of curses[1/3]: +13,+13 scythe of draining which curses your equipment and inflicts necromancy miscasts on living targets it hits. Better than many bardiches! 23:00:54 oh never mind 23:01:17 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 23:01:28 mm, Octopus King 23:01:34 should give you 3 extra ring slots 23:02:25 We already have the pubby unrand 23:02:31 the what 23:02:35 ??macabre_finger 23:02:36 macabre finger necklace[1/1]: A unique amulet of warding that gives you an extra ring slot. 23:02:41 "pubby unrand"? 23:02:45 ^ which is awesome item 23:02:53 He's pretty infamous at making unrands 23:03:00 Let me wear an extra EV ring on an og 23:03:03 that was nice 23:03:03 oh an actual person named pubby 23:03:09 aka buppy 23:03:15 not bupper 23:03:16 8u88y 23:03:27 Anyway: 23:03:47 when I hear "pubby" I just think of SA goons being elitist 23:03:49 so I got confused 23:03:55 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:04:00 in general i'm not sure how thematic "finisher" creating spectrals when it isn't actually involved in the death at all is 23:04:03 Glaive, Salamander, Zhor, Ratskin 23:04:18 MarvinPA: it doesn't just do it on kill? 23:04:22 I assumed that was the idea 23:04:33 ??zhor 23:04:34 skin of zhor[1/1]: Smelly +4 animal skin with rC++. 23:04:34 MarvinPA: did you see my {Hunger} thread? 23:04:34 I think Ratskin is great as is; very useful if you find it early 23:04:40 I don't think zhor really needs anything 23:04:41 MarvinPA: It only enslaves on kill 23:04:47 ??ratskin cloak 23:04:47 ratskin cloak[1/1]: +1 unrandart cloak with {rPois rN+ Dex-1 Int-1}. 23:05:02 wait, I'll have to recheck 23:05:03 ratskin is great for having rPois on a cloak 23:05:22 rN+ is also a bit more useful these days 23:05:23 it looks to me like it enslaves as long as you are wielding it with no other requirements 23:05:24 yeah, I don't think every unrand needs to have zany special effects 23:05:26 Oh right 23:05:27 salamander is pretty good, there was a tournament where it was bugged and generated all the time and it was won in frequently 23:05:28 yea 23:05:29 h 23:05:40 ??salamander 23:05:40 salamander[1/4]: Strong fire creature. Can be rarely found in lava lakes anywhere. Generated with a flaming weapon or bow. Hits for 50 or so damage in melee. Very dangerous for people without ranged attacks. Due to its fire attack property and flaming weapon, you get burned twice. 23:05:40 G-Flex: I agree wholeheartedly. 23:05:43 ??salamander hide 23:05:43 salamander hide armour[1/1]: A +3 leather armour, rF++, evocable berserk. 23:06:12 ??mottled dragon armour 23:06:12 mottled dragon armour[1/1]: In 0.14+: AC 6, ER 5, napalm immunity. ER 5 is too heavy to use with {Ozocubu's Armour}. In 0.13, ER 4 (same as leather), so you can still cast Ozocubu's Armour in that version. 23:06:15 ??leather armour 23:06:19 leather armour[1/1]: 3AC, 4ER, 15aum. 23:06:19 fr: "lawnmower" great sword, has 360 degree cleaving 23:06:26 Okay, so not only did I not introduce this bug myself, but it appears to date back to at least 0.10 23:06:31 G-Flex: Haha, fedhas hates it? 23:06:32 Fun 23:06:32 Salamander Hide is great if you don't find Mottled 23:06:35 clearly 23:06:47 gammafunk: 360 reaping, slay plants 23:06:49 MarvinPA: I could make it enslave if it gets the last hit or if it hits once, or give it the proper Reaping system 23:07:03 Basil: last hit sounds most appropriate 23:07:04 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 23:07:29 doing it like reaping is better gameplay probably 23:07:45 since there's nothing stopping you just swapping otherwise 23:07:50 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?] 23:07:58 true 23:08:22 so I'd like to make {Hunger} require satiation to remove and impose a big food hit 23:08:41 bh: sort of like the Contam+ change? 23:08:48 G-Flex: yep, and {vamp} 23:08:57 would it still make you extra hungry while worn? 23:09:01 I'm guessing yes 23:09:19 bh: I get the idea, although unlike old contam, Hunger is not really a big deal these days with no nausea 23:09:20 yeah 23:09:50 gammafunk: totally. I just want to make item swapping {hunger} items not the dominant strategy 23:10:15 I suppose that does make Hunger more meaningful as well 23:10:25 what about hunger the ring? 23:10:30 bh: I am fairly sure that IGNORING {hunger} is the dominant strategy 23:10:39 But doing something with it could still be good 23:10:57 I guess it still wastes a ring slot and if did something like taking you to starving on removal it could matter early game 23:11:00 ok. If there aren't strenuous objections 23:11:31 I am not really sure how interesting a 'hunger a lot on removal' version would be, but I don't have strong objections to trying anyway 23:12:16 Hrm, is there an unrand with hunger? Basil, perhaps the time is.....ripe. 23:12:29 The Ur-Snozz 23:12:33 cekugob and dyv... the crown 23:12:38 Or new glave of prune 23:12:40 N78291: right 23:12:46 Oh, hmm... 23:12:50 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:12:52 ??depo-provera 23:12:52 New {hunger} on Cekugob sounds bad 23:12:52 depo-provera ~ depoprovera ~ crown of dyrovepreva[1/1]: +3 unrandart cap { Int+2 rElec sInv hunger }. "jewelled bronze crown". A large crown of dull bronze, set with a dazzling array of gemstones. 23:13:00 Since it's going to be a swap item regardless 23:13:02 Due to -tele 23:13:11 Making it really expensive to swap would make it a lot worse 23:13:23 ??cekugob 23:13:23 cekugob[1/1]: the amulet of Cekugob {Ward -Tele Hunger rElec rPois rN+ AC+1 EV+1}. Since it's an amulet of warding with an additional rN+, it gives rN++ total. 23:13:25 glaive of prune should obviously have vamp but for nutrition instead of hp 23:13:28 (Could just remove hunger from it) 23:13:42 "You drink the kobold's prune juice!" 23:13:45 DracoOmega: yeah, having hunger on the crown doesn't really matter 23:15:40 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:16:05 -!- Neuromancer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:16:59 -!- pelotron_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:17:02 what about this one 23:17:03 ??botono 23:17:04 spear of the botono[1/2]: The +2,+10 spear of the Botono {reap, rPois rN+ HP-6}, acts as a hex enhancer. 23:17:07 this is just a weird weapon 23:17:27 everything about it is weird 23:18:07 it used to be the spear of voo-doo if you are wondering about the abilities 23:18:18 Still weird, though :P 23:18:21 -!- NilsBloodaxe_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:18:23 Well, I think it's time to make someone's day... 23:18:23 voo-doo? with a hyphen? 23:18:29 hrm 23:18:33 where does "botono" come from anyway 23:18:37 Grunt: That sounds ominious 23:18:44 DracoOmega: all will become clear in a moment! 23:18:53 New branch created: demonspawn-enemies (24 commits) 23:19:02 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2070-g678a640: Demonspawn enemies: underlying base/non-base monster work. 10(32 hours ago, 15 files, 544+ 39-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=678a640e4d1a 23:19:02 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2071-g1bfb6b3: Gear up demonspawn enemies. 10(30 hours ago, 1 file, 171+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bfb6b331a4c 23:19:02 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2072-gfe637a9: A super-basic icemail effect for gelid demonspawn. 10(30 hours ago, 6 files, 34+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe637a983063 23:19:02 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2073-gf8cb75a: Powered by Pain for torturous demonspawn. 10(29 hours ago, 7 files, 56+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f8cb75a49fcc 23:19:02 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2074-gf2c9da4: A BEAM_AGILITY for various purposes. 10(29 hours ago, 6 files, 37+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2c9da435187 23:19:02 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2075-g5cd3e4e: Augmentation for torturous demonspawn. 10(29 hours ago, 4 files, 104+ 64-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5cd3e4e3e1d9 23:19:02 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2076-g1f1a85a: A very exaggerated Powered by Death for putrid demonspawn. 10(29 hours ago, 1 file, 18+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f1a85a004be 23:19:02 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2077-ga3555fd: Putrid demonspawn always leave corpses. 10(28 hours ago, 2 files, 5+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3555fdd9910 23:19:02 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2078-gb9d1c37: Assign attack base damages to nonbase demonspawn types. 10(28 hours ago, 2 files, 12+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9d1c37d1373 23:19:02 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2079-gaed014c: Demonspawn blood saint: Legendary Destruction and support spells. 10(26 hours ago, 19 files, 258+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aed014cc4cf4 23:19:02 ... and 14 more commits 23:19:04 Oh, I think I know! 23:19:04 Grunt: you're getting rid of portal mimics? 23:19:04 thanks 23:19:12 Oh, I was wrong 23:19:20 Oh huh 23:19:24 Still neat, though! 23:19:47 Lotsa stuff 23:19:48 "blood saint"? 23:19:57 G-Flex: look in the very first commit for an explanation... 23:20:00 going for the longest name 23:20:14 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=user:hangedman#faceted_classed_demonspawn_for_pan 23:20:18 !tell tenofswords Grunt wrote up your Ds instead. 23:20:18 Basil: OK, I'll let tenofswords know. 23:20:57 Grunt: I was just curious why they get so many new/unique spells :P 23:21:08 Ask the designer. I'm just the implementer. <_< 23:21:34 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:21:39 mm, copying a lot of code from reaping seems sort of ungood 23:21:41 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:21:45 I'll have to mull this over a bit. 23:21:58 I'm 90% certain these would be better served by omitting "demonspawn" from the nonbase names. 23:22:01 Grunt: Next up a vault co-designed by grunt and hangedman 23:22:01 monstrous demonspawn chaos champion 23:22:12 Grunt: Probably 23:22:48 I'll have to take a closer look at these later. I've been hard at work on this Forest dispersal stuff, and the various side-trips it keeps taking :P 23:23:00 Hopefully Makhleb doesn't feel bad because he only has Major Destruction 23:23:10 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:23:13 No, he just shortchanges you 23:23:26 saves the good stuff for his favorites 23:23:34 I keep finding other issues in need of fixing 23:23:36 Legendary is what happens when Makhleb and Vehumet get together. >_> 23:23:39 Or issues that take forever to fix at all :P 23:23:42 Next level: Incredible Destruction 23:23:50 Uncanny Destruction 23:23:51 followed by Uncanny Destruction 23:23:52 dangit 23:23:53 <3 23:24:08 Almost Complete Destruction 23:24:18 Slight Destruction at the low end 23:25:40 I wonder how an imploding fixedart would work. 23:25:55 ("It implodes!") 23:27:47 On second thought, maybe I should crib more ideas from Brogue 23:27:54 turn Guard into a Glaive of Force 23:28:09 Spriggan Knife into a Dagger of Quietus 23:28:26 heh 23:30:38 for April 1st, we should just replace Crawl with Brogue 23:30:41 crib ideas from poscheng, clearly 23:30:46 -!- nubcakes has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:30:50 fishing pole artefact 23:30:51 Where do you think Firestarter came from 23:30:57 Grunt: More summoners, I see 23:31:01 The stone giant blows up! 23:31:04 hm, looking through the unrands and why is dark maul lightred 23:31:14 -!- Kiritsu has quit [Client Quit] 23:31:20 also artefact arrows, *bands are so far ahead of the game! 23:31:55 MarvinPA: can we give Polyphemus a large rock {returning}? 23:32:03 ??chuck 23:32:03 chuck[1/1]: A sprint-specific unique stone giant. Collects rocks, comes with a rock of returning. 23:32:06 didn't 23:32:11 "Stone of Sisyphus" 23:32:12 this exact conversation happen yesterday 23:32:17 yes. 23:32:31 ok well i thought it was a bad idea yesterday and wanted to remove large rocks of returning :P 23:32:35 Now that you mention it again, perhaps I should get to that steel large rock 23:33:33 Oh 23:33:34 !lg * recent ikiller=~polyphemus 23:33:34 104. ufd the Blocker (L18 OpAr), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, mangled by a catoblepas (led by Polyphemus) on Shoals:2 on 2014-01-19 23:48:13, with 206629 points after 61494 turns and 5:26:55. 23:33:58 An axe whose damage increases the more creatures it cleaves in a turn? 23:34:05 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2094-geda6659: Fix a Black Mark crash. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eda6659c10e6 23:34:05 03Grunt02 07[demonspawn-enemies] * 0.14-a0-2095-g2cbbc91: Remove "demonspawn" from nonbase demonspawn names. 10(2 minutes ago, 9 files, 84+ 84-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cbbc919f01f 23:34:43 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 23:35:04 and cszo is back 23:35:32 Grunt: i'm not sure how well huge aoe spells will work out on these things (explosive bolt, orb of elec in particular) if they generate in bands? those seem more like effects that are interesting on the player side 23:35:43 Boots of Clouds 23:35:54 immunity to clouds, places a random one wherever you walk 23:36:16 that might encourage some weird cloudscumming though, darn 23:36:21 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 23:36:32 MarvinPA: you may take this up with the initial designer, though if you look at the design notes there's supposedly a solution to that on hand. 23:36:39 high power fireball/bolt of lightning seem like they would work fine in those cases and reduce the "massive amounts of new spells" thing also 23:36:40 Like I said, I'm just the implementer <_< 23:36:48 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 23:37:31 well replacing those would also allow removing that extra spell too then :P 23:38:56 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:42:25 -!- tenofswords has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:43:31 It's funny how generally the only relevant thing about most AoE spells against the player is 'cannot be dodged' 23:43:46 I mean relevant about the fact that they are AoE, rather 23:44:02 For like 90% of characters 23:44:03 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:44:22 exploding bolt in particular sounds like it should just be a fireball really 23:44:23 -!- Sizzell has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:44:29 rip cszo (third time's the charm) 23:44:46 mmm 23:44:55 Angband breaths, power keys off of hp 23:45:14 nothing has the requisite thousands of hitpoints :( 23:45:19 Yes 23:45:24 s/s/t 23:45:35 Master Blaster (13L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 30 | HP: 1500 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, 07vault | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: fire storm (8d23), ice storm (10d19), miasma breath (3d20), teleport self / fire storm (8d23), ice storm (10d20), miasma breath (3d20), teleport self / fire storm (8d24), ice storm (10d19), miasma breath (3d20), teleport self / fire storm (8d24), ice storm (10d20), miasma breath (3d20), teleport self | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 23:45:35 %??master blaster 23:45:36 ??diamond_obelisk 23:45:36 diamond obelisk[1/2]: basically a petrified moon troll 23:45:41 ...wait 23:45:42 Failed to create test monster for the the meatlord 23:45:42 %??the meatlord 23:45:45 rip 23:45:50 diamond obelisk (168) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 8 | HP: 10000 | AC/EV: 12/1 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors | Res: 13magic(immune), 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 12wind | XP: 0 | Sz: Large | Int: high. 23:45:50 %??diamond_obelisk 23:45:50 The Unspeakable (16J) | Spd: 15 | HD: 100 | HP: 10000 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Dam: 22 | amphibious, evil, regen, !sil, 07vault | Res: 06magic(400), 03poison, asphyx, 12drown | Vul: 08holy | XP: 15000 | Sp: shadow creatures, airstrike (0-210), smiting (7-17), 04esc:death's door | Sz: small | Int: plant. 23:45:50 %??the unspeakable 23:46:07 airstrike (0-210), smiting (7-17) 23:46:08 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:46:20 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:10 -!- morik has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:47:12 -!- morik_ is now known as morik 23:47:19 "It may breathe fire (3000)" would be good yes 23:49:05 -!- tenofswords_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:06 gammafunk: what's wrong with cszo? 23:49:24 bh: I'm guessing Solar Flare 23:49:33 no idea, but it's been going up and down a lot 23:50:11 I'm loathe to do anything without consulting neil, which sort of makes me useless 23:50:46 bh: It's not pingable, so I doubt there's much you can do 23:51:05 not without a car, a few tanks of gas and a lot of coffee 23:51:30 bh: That kind of dedication is why we love the dev team <3 23:51:46 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:51:55 -!- tenofswords has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:52:09 !learn add bh gammafunk: what's wrong with cszo? bh: It's not pingable, so I doubt there's much you can do not without a car, a few tanks of gas and a lot of coffee 23:52:10 bh[4/4]: gammafunk: what's wrong with cszo? bh: It's not pingable, so I doubt there's much you can do not without a car, a few tanks of gas and a lot of coffee 23:52:13 gammafunk: driving to Kentucky to power cycle a router is easier than configuring the DGL 23:52:22 hm something like black mark might work in the rN+ facet mut on the player side, also 23:52:51 1learn add DGL 23:53:08 !learn add dgl driving to Kentucky to power cycle a router is easier than configuring the DGL 23:53:09 dgl[2/2]: driving to Kentucky to power cycle a router is easier than configuring the DGL 23:54:06 ugh. item_use.cc 23:55:15 though it was meant to fit in with the rest it'd probably work a lot better to use fireball over bolt of fireball, yeah 23:55:43 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:55:54 should clearly reuse that for deck of destruction 23:56:18 tenofswords_: when will you add an unrand tarot deck? 23:56:20 could be a neat card effect yeah 23:56:33 Black mark heals you and afflicts the defender with a random malus, right? 23:56:49 Basil: it's only cast by monsters right now, so it's the opposite :b 23:57:01 Or rather, "you" being the user yes 23:57:44 Either way, it would be a dandy replacement for Ds rTorm 23:57:51 insofar as it is really lame. 23:59:24 except that if it is a good activated ability that heals, that might encourage using it as frequently as possible