00:00:35 Grunt: "similar yet valid names are: Deth, Geth, Heth, Ieth, Peth, Queth, Reth, Ueth, and Weth" 00:00:41 ...Meth 00:01:09 We already have an M god :b 00:01:11 I don't like the name Seth, in all seriousness. 00:01:18 ...and we already have an S god. 00:01:30 What is this, alphabet crawl? 00:01:31 <|amethyst> huh? 00:01:35 Ash and 00:01:36 <|amethyst> TSO is 1 00:01:38 Not sure who S is 00:01:41 <|amethyst> oh, Sif 00:01:44 Sif Muna 00:01:49 (everyone forgets about Sif) 00:01:51 (poor Sif) 00:01:53 How could people ever forget sif! 00:02:00 !polytheist 00:02:01 Unwon gods for Basil: Beogh, Elyvilon, Sif Muna 00:02:10 Basil: looks like you forgot Sif too!!! 00:02:16 * Grunt rages. 00:02:18 !lg . s=god 00:02:19 1103 games for gammafunk: 583x, 279x Sif Muna, 120x Xom, 48x Nemelex Xobeh, 29x Okawaru, 16x Vehumet, 10x Trog, 7x Yredelemnul, 3x Makhleb, 3x Fedhas, 3x The Shining One, Cheibriados, Kikubaaqudgha 00:02:24 I never forget sif 00:02:30 !polytheist gammafunk 00:02:30 Unwon gods for gammafunk: Ashenzari, Beogh, Cheibriados, Elyvilon, Jiyva, Lugonu, Makhleb, Okawaru, Xom, Zin 00:02:40 mm 00:02:48 Wow, xom no. 2. I'm terrible 00:02:53 !lg . won s=god 00:02:54 100 games for Basil (won): 23x Okawaru, 15x Fedhas, 15x Kikubaaqudgha, 11x Trog, 9x Ashenzari, 7x Makhleb, 5x, 3x Lugonu, 2x Jiyva, 2x Vehumet, 2x Xom, 2x Zin, Yredelemnul, The Shining One, Nemelex Xobeh, Cheibriados 00:03:01 !lg . won s=god 00:03:02 30 games for Grunt (won): 4x Vehumet, 3x Trog, 3x Makhleb, 2x Okawaru, 2x Xom, 2x, 2x Fedhas, Ashenzari, Nemelex Xobeh, Elyvilon, Lugonu, Yredelemnul, Cheibriados, Sif Muna, Jiyva, Kikubaaqudgha, Beogh, Zin, The Shining One 00:03:13 Need 9 more Fedhas wins 00:03:16 ug, grunt's gods are so flatly distributed 00:03:32 (You flatten the distribution like a pancake!!!) 00:06:23 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-1837-g7fb8695 (34) 00:06:24 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1837-g7fb8695 (34) 00:11:14 Experimental (vinestalker) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1734-gb23ec66 00:13:35 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:17:56 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:18:35 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1837-g7fb8695 (34) 00:19:50 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:15 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.13.1-23-gc5ac171 00:36:24 Grunt: Scroll Delivered! 00:37:29 mail scrolls implemented 00:38:47 johnstein: working <3 00:42:15 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1837-g7fb8695 (34) 00:46:03 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:46:06 |amethyst: my stable keeps rebuilding. 00:46:11 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1837-g7fb8695 00:46:53 |amethyst: http://pastebin.com/a95cx535 I added some echo statements to update-crawl-stable-build.sh to see what's going on 00:47:36 looks like (I think) the REVISION_OLD and VER_STR_OLD variables are being set to '', so the conditional isn't aborting the build 00:48:23 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:49:41 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:56:11 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:56:28 |amethyst: I ran it again and this time I get the proper values for REVISION_OLD and VER_STR_OLD 00:56:56 something seems to happen to make those values blank 00:57:13 that's such a helpful comment 00:58:39 03ChrisOelmueller02 {SamB} 07* 0.14-a0-1838-g9795d00: Recolor elephant slugs to white (was: lightgrey) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9795d00e21ce 00:58:41 -!- Escalator has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 00:58:41 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 01:01:37 you mean, do they really hit harder than funguses? 01:01:45 -!- nixor1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:01:51 * kilobyte likes that commit message. 01:02:20 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:02:36 yeah, it is kind of amusing when you actually engage brain properly ;-) 01:04:24 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:05:04 -!- qoon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:08:33 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 01:10:36 -!- NdMagnet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:11:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:22:40 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:24:25 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:28 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:37:45 -!- nixor has joined ##crawl-dev 01:37:55 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 01:38:03 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:40:16 -!- nixor1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:41:54 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 01:50:19 is 'case SP_SLUDGE_ELF' something that should always be marked with the major version tag? 01:50:27 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-1837-g7fb8695 (34) 01:51:07 well it won't be valid if we bump the major version, will it? 01:51:12 or, wait ... 01:51:20 old scores I guess? 01:51:36 and also recognizing old saves ... 01:52:13 rchandra: I guess you want to talk to kilobyte about that ... 01:52:18 ah, I ask because skills2.cc isn't marking it (line 239, _stk_weight()) 01:52:29 that sounds wrong 01:56:47 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: hhhrgh] 02:05:04 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:12:13 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:12:49 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:12:53 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 02:13:01 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 02:13:51 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:18:20 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:18:24 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:22:03 -!- NTRAFF has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:22:59 why do felid deaths cause level drain? it's so demoralizing 02:27:34 rchandra: I don't think it's very fun either 02:28:28 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:34 * SamB wonders if "draining" would be better? 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Fuck the war.] 02:38:52 yeah the new drain status would be fine 02:41:22 the other felid life question: why can you only store 2? I thought 9 lives was the whole point 02:41:31 <|amethyst> rchandra: re the SP_SLUDGE_ELF thing, I think that's necessary to correctly show titles from old saves (in the save browser and in the score list) 02:41:50 <|amethyst> then again, SP_OGRE_MAGE isn't there 02:41:54 ohh, I forgot about titles ... 02:42:04 <|amethyst> presumably MD were middleweight 02:42:07 |amethyst: how long ago was that a thing? 02:42:32 <|amethyst> ogre magi? long before my time 02:42:48 well, perhaps nobody has a save left anyway ... 02:42:51 |amethyst: but if traps and stabbing titles will be removed at the version change, titles would be lost anyway 02:43:44 <|amethyst> hm, good point 02:44:22 well, the most important thing is that crawl be able to list the game without crashing ... 02:44:39 ... and have some clue about what version it came from ... 02:44:39 <|amethyst> _stk_weight has a default of "middle" so that would be fine 02:45:10 <|amethyst> at least, fine in the not crashing sense 02:45:30 <|amethyst> ahh 02:45:40 <|amethyst> titles are stored in the scores file anyway 02:46:22 <|amethyst> and the save list doesn't show them 02:46:47 <|amethyst> so that particular function could #ifdef them 02:47:10 knowing the name of the species is also up there, of course, though it's no biggie if it uses an anachronistic name for it ... 02:48:18 <|amethyst> I believe the save stores those too 02:48:57 <|amethyst> yeah, it marshalls the species name and not just the enum 02:49:03 <|amethyst> not the background name though 02:49:59 ... oookay .... 02:50:14 oh, but does it display the background anyway? 02:50:20 <|amethyst> yes 02:50:35 <|amethyst> we still have code that knows about "Thief" 02:51:16 <|amethyst> hm 02:51:23 <|amethyst> but it doesn't know the old enum value 02:51:27 <|amethyst> so now I am confused 02:51:47 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:51:59 * SamB should probably stop puzzling over this and go to bed ... 02:52:52 <|amethyst> So I guess you might 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09:56:54 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:57:17 A few vaults. by wheals 09:59:43 Basil: when are you going to add that vinestalker tile in :V 10:00:03 Oh hm 10:00:18 I'll do that in ~15 minutes 10:09:41 -!- TR_Muscateer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:14:09 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:24:17 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:24:39 but we'll lose the current funny tiles 10:28:09 -!- nixor has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:42 <|amethyst> wheals: probably, yes 10:28:44 <|amethyst> doh 10:33:43 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:37:16 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:24 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:38:50 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:11 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:58:03 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:58:54 -!- sanka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:03:09 -!- bmfx_ is now known as bmfx 11:04:42 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:05:54 -!- 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Use !messages to read it. 11:08:18 * TZer0 goes into a corner and cries 11:08:21 -!- jacobian has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:08:41 * TZer0 swears to get revengeance (hue hue) on whoever did this 11:08:46 !messages 11:08:47 (1/1) Grunt said (49s ago): Are you unimportant again now? 11:08:51 -!- nixor has left ##crawl-dev 11:14:43 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1838-g9795d00 (34) 11:15:36 -!- nixor has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:08 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:26:55 TZer0: btw. feel free to remove nubinia.cs from crawl.lantea.net 11:27:27 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:28:05 Medar: ah, forgot about it 11:28:26 Medar: done. 11:28:36 Hooray 11:30:43 -!- master_j has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:37:52 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:40:59 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:45:30 -!- nixor has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:46:29 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:48:45 Medar: well I got the impression that some webtiles patches (from Cedor?) had gone wrong ... 11:51:09 I don't really know what you are talking about. 11:51:23 -!- neuwiz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:51:46 well, I get wrong impressions all the time so okay then 11:52:34 Is there something wrong with WebTiles atm? 11:52:58 dunno 11:59:15 -!- sprort has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 12:01:52 -!- morik has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:01:55 -!- morik_ is now known as morik 12:05:11 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:29 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:06:21 Staff of cold kills on "hit for no damage" with no "you freeze the X" message. by morik 12:07:31 -!- anthems has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:07:59 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:15:04 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:15:20 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 12:17:55 -!- nixor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:25 -!- nixor1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:22:10 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 12:23:21 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:29:09 New branch created: shadow-god (15 commits) 12:29:13 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1839-gd9cdcdc: Shadow god - initial enums, features, descriptions, basics. 10(20 hours ago, 13 files, 89+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9cdcdccebdd 12:29:13 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1840-g01b9f1c: Shadow god - umbra. 10(20 hours ago, 2 files, 41+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=01b9f1c5106c 12:29:13 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1841-ge3c0bc1: Move some non-god-specific abil enums out of that space. 10(20 hours ago, 3 files, 10+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3c0bc122d3f 12:29:13 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1842-gd3e7f67: Shadow god: Shadow Step. 10(18 hours ago, 8 files, 148+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3e7f6798226 12:29:13 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1843-ga3a0f48: Shadow god: Bleed Smoke. 10(17 hours ago, 2 files, 22+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3a0f48aab73 12:29:13 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1844-gc961fcd: Shadow god: Shadow Mimic. 10(15 hours ago, 7 files, 205+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c961fcdee648 12:29:13 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1845-g571dd19: Shadow god: Shadow Form. 10(14 hours ago, 16 files, 139+ 30-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=571dd195bbc7 12:29:13 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1846-g90d4682: Recolour the shadow god's altar. 10(14 hours ago, 3 files, 8+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=90d4682d8f29 12:29:13 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1847-g2646bce: An altar tile for the shadow god. 10(14 hours ago, 2 files, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2646bce0e929 12:29:13 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1848-gc9e202c: Shadow god wrath. 10(13 hours ago, 1 file, 72+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9e202c6a05d 12:29:13 ... and 5 more commits 12:29:14 * Grunt whistles quietly. 12:29:14 * Sequell also whistles quietly. 12:32:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:33:02 jesus that is a terrible altar tile GRUNT 12:33:11 dck, come up with something better!!!!! 12:33:46 but then you could laugh at me when it's just as bad 12:34:49 !tell |amethyst see shadow-god branch if you're looking for something else experimental to put online :) 12:34:49 Grunt: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 12:35:35 hm, the shadow step one is pretty cool though 12:35:39 gj grunt 12:36:34 All hail Dsomething 12:36:38 Previously known as Dit 12:36:51 No longer Dsomething!!! 12:37:06 Right now the name of our nascent deity is Dithmengos. 12:37:13 (Bonus points for figuring out where that came from.) 12:37:25 Dsomethingthmengos 12:37:29 <3 12:45:07 Hm GRUNT. 12:45:33 Am I reading it wrong or is shadow form not immune to the miasma it spews everywhere? 12:46:44 The way I coded it, they're supposed to be immune, though I may have missed something. 12:47:08 !source rot 12:47:09 Lines pasted to http://pastie.org/8621398 12:49:05 In my own testing shadow form isn't affected at all by its own miasma. 12:49:18 (also I think the miasma is a silly and overpowered effect, but what do I know) 12:49:49 dck: Did you look at player::res_rotting 12:51:52 oh 12:51:53 missed it 12:52:07 d(ck)oh 12:52:29 that would be a good deity name 12:52:29 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:52:46 -!- agentgt has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:53:09 -!- nixor1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:26 dohsomething 12:54:05 dohamethyst 12:54:06 <_< 12:54:37 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:17 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:58:46 Grunt: why D? I thought we were saving that for Dooroklohe :P 12:59:20 elliptic: I'm not overly attached to the name; it just happened to be the first available letter :b 13:00:47 !rng D G H I P Q R U W 13:00:48 The RNG chooses: R. 13:01:01 Rick the Shadowed. 13:01:02 Rithmengos 13:01:09 Rothmengos 13:01:56 Rick says, "You know the rules, and so do I!" 13:02:08 You offer a prayer: "Help me, Rick!" 13:04:10 hmm shouldn't he let you not be penalised by umbra if he gives you umbra 13:04:29 Oh, good point. 13:04:45 (also nightvision() should really be called... something else i guess) 13:05:12 darkvision? 13:05:18 (I'll change it later if we come up with a better name) 13:05:47 shadowsight 13:06:03 well i just mean it should have umbra in it somewhere since that's all it affects 13:06:24 umbravision 13:06:28 that way when you grep for umbra you get useful stuff instead of it being hidden away :P 13:07:02 -!- Tarragon has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:32 umbra_vision or something seems better to me yeah 13:07:50 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1854-g2a44a39: Remove umbra acc penalty from Dith followers with an umbra (MarvinPA). 10(63 seconds ago, 2 files, 6+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a44a3912af1 13:08:06 (important consideration for deity names: have a good short form) 13:08:23 Ri 13:08:25 The Shining One 13:08:29 Hm, shadow form gives you skill drain. 13:08:50 But you can quaff a restab and be done with it. 13:08:52 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:08:55 Oh, I guess Shadow Form doesn't have player tiles yet. 13:09:11 restab doesn't completely cure skill drain these days. 13:09:25 ah right 13:09:29 1/2 isn't it? 13:09:35 +20 13:09:37 1/2 plus a fixed factor IIRC 13:12:14 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 13:14:21 DCSS seems almost overlooked compared to TOME. 13:16:51 Grunt: mimicking player spells as monster spells seems pretty likely to cause problems to me btw 13:17:38 I'm not especially happy with how that works at the moment. 13:17:39 even ignoring potential bugs/balance issues it'd be very spoilery 13:18:07 The idea that I had was to come up with some sort of "shadow equivalent" spell. 13:18:46 -!- johnny0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:19:19 (I can already think of one spell that has issues with the current implementation, which is IOOD, which has a high chance of blowing up in your face immediately.) 13:19:30 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:42 Is Sidharean a shitty name? 13:19:52 We already have an S god. 13:19:52 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:20:05 Or are you thinking of something else? 13:20:17 boo 13:21:05 Sitharean 13:21:44 Well go away Dolomeus. :v 13:22:14 Dithmengos calls forth shadows to punish Bloax. 13:22:43 mengos is an unsatisfactory suffix 13:23:11 Grunt: Really Dark God 13:23:13 Grunt: teleport other would be good in a similar but less explosive way to iood :P 13:25:01 MarvinPA: heh :b 13:25:02 Dunkelemus for dunking the creeps while they sleep. 13:25:04 -!- neuwiz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:25:13 dunk 2014 13:25:39 Dunkelemus screams, DUNKED! 13:25:45 You hear a shout! x27 13:26:10 You hear a roar! x502 13:26:25 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:26:27 You hear an angry buzzing noice. x2931 13:26:32 s/noice/noise/ 13:26:34 :( 13:27:21 what does the 'x' imply? I always thought that was the number of times that message was duplicated. is that the case? 13:27:28 Yes. 13:27:44 ok. then yes, :( 13:27:57 ...the :( was because I made a typo, heh. 13:28:05 that's a lot of bees. or else your character is very slow 13:28:20 typos can be as sad as bees sometimes too 13:28:26 ??killer bee[4 13:28:26 killer bee[4/9]: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3931 BEES 13:30:37 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:35:33 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:41:21 -!- nixor has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:31 Your shadow mimicks your spell! 13:41:31 The air twists around and strikes you! 13:42:10 (i didn't target myself :P) 13:42:38 "killed by their own shadow" 13:43:21 heh, definitely a good death to aim for! 13:45:56 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:46:09 -!- Morphy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:52:30 (todo: figure out how to get it to use that as the death message) 13:54:25 -!- nixor1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:07 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:55:10 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:01:23 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 14:08:26 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:11:21 -!- moodyqc has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:14:03 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:11 -!- araganzar has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:15 * Grunt calls forth shadows to punish araganzar. 14:16:18 sigh... two days wasted trying to perform ray casting without floating point arithmetic, and it was looking soo promising ;( 14:16:20 http://i.imgur.com/tNqbgcc.jpg 14:16:56 that looks like it could be useful for other things 14:17:08 pathing, etc 14:17:17 You're saying it looks path-etic? 14:17:24 pathably... 14:21:47 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:21:56 -!- Escalator_ is now known as Escalator 14:22:16 It really seems like it _should_ be possible, but I can't for the life of me figure it out. Makes me wonder if anyone has tried to do this before. 14:22:41 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:22:49 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:30:10 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:01 -!- hayenne has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:34:07 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:34:17 In a permissive field of view (which I believe Crawl uses), you can use any of the corners in cell #1 to try and intersect with cell #6. The dashed blue line is the one that succeeds. In DCSS, cell #6 is visible from cell #1. 14:34:41 The solid green line is the results of a bresenham line drawn from cell #1 to cell #6. 14:35:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:35:28 Arrows no longer autopickup when you have sticks to snakes. Bug or change? 14:36:45 -!- Tarragon is now known as Basil 14:37:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 14:38:05 hey medar I got requirejs working right - posted a patch 14:38:20 Cool, I take a look later 14:38:23 i understand it now, it actually fixes a real pain in the ass with js 14:38:28 which is the order in which stuff is loaded 14:38:38 i'd love to be using that on a couple projects 14:38:53 araganzar: <3 14:41:12 medar: i'm going to do one more patch to add target="" and to change license.txt 14:41:33 -!- OneEyedJack has quit [Client Quit] 14:41:49 but i'd like to know if I did the requires right 14:44:14 actually, license.txt already has "some .js files in webserver/static/scripts/contrib/" under MIT licenses so no need 14:49:05 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:51:03 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:52:32 araganzar: Have you tried it when pasting large blocks of text? Just curious if there's any lag 14:53:05 i'll try it right now but it's a simple text replace so you should be able to post a whole dictionair in there 14:53:19 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:23 Yeah, I see that the parsing block is rather elaborate, with several loops, so just wondering 14:55:10 I just cut and paste several entire web pages and it popped up instantly, good thought though 14:55:20 it also handled all the weird stuff i cut and paste okay which is reassuring 14:55:41 man those url regexp....not pretty...but that's the internet for you 14:55:54 yeah, that and the elaborateness was why I wanted to do my own 14:56:06 but you gotta run those loops for "`&<> etc 14:56:43 wait, this does restrict the "scheme" or no? 14:56:53 what is the scheme? 14:56:54 e.g. no "js://" links 14:57:20 it might now 14:57:29 let me know what to restrict and i can patch that in 14:57:33 seems not,looking at the code 14:57:42 yeah I only mention since |amethyst mentioned js:// links 14:57:53 Not sure what one would restrict really 14:58:07 give me an example that would do something bad 14:58:56 huh, well it'd have to be an explicit link, so the user clicking it would see the full "js://hackme.com/..." thing 14:59:04 but I honestly don't know how to exploit those 14:59:13 nor which ones you'd restrict 14:59:33 i looked and you can do it but you cannot hide the link which is the usual exploit 14:59:39 Maybe Medar can weigh in? Obviously it'd be easy for you to limit scheme to a set of schemes 14:59:40 like saying "CLICK HERE" and it links to js:// 14:59:57 yah it's not a problem i just don't want to restrict it unnecessarily 14:59:58 Yeah, you definitely want to only allow few chosen ones 15:00:01 Yeah I mean it's not like someone couldn't just link to a mean web page 15:00:13 i could link to a web page that runs a js too 15:00:13 You could at very least someone's login cookie 15:00:15 Medar: Which do you think? 15:00:21 Let me read the backlog 15:00:47 https?, ftp, mailto, ... 15:01:23 Those three should be more than enough 15:01:58 well right now if you type in say hamandbeans://crawl.com it will 15:02:15 try to make a link that runs hamandbeans, it doesn't have any filter at all 15:02:19 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:02:23 mmm, tasty ham and beans... 15:02:34 it's just recognizing the .com part and running back to the last valid characater 15:02:54 well it will just see the generic url syntax I assum 15:03:03 so it'd translate hamandbeans://craw 15:03:05 l 15:03:13 or does it require tld 15:03:15 not that it matters 15:03:24 i could just slap a filter on the end, if it sees :// and anything but http, https, ftp in front it will squelch it 15:03:30 or mailto: 15:03:47 That should be fine. 15:03:52 -!- thedefinite has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 15:04:23 ok i'll do that and create a new overall patch 15:04:28 Yeah, instead of modifying linkify.js 15:04:45 oh, irc:// also 15:04:48 hehe 15:05:55 actually it has SCHEME = "[a-z\\d.-]+://", at the top 15:06:00 so I can mod that to allow just the ones we want 15:06:15 as you can see right now it allows practically everything 15:06:20 Detecting links through subdomains is somewhat awkward since there's a lot of them. 15:06:22 araganzar: Yeah if you look at the logic, it seems that it triest that scheme re and fails 15:06:32 it has some fallback degenerate link types it allows 15:06:57 well if i just change that to iterate the ones we like instead of allowing alphamerics, we should be golden 15:07:20 araganzar: and remove those fallbacks? Yeah 15:08:16 .net .org .com .co.uk .co.au .co.nz .cz .dk .no .se blahblah 15:09:37 -!- nixor1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:10:03 Zero (L19 GrBe) (Abyss:2) 15:10:28 (http|https|irc|ftp|mailto)+:// should do it 15:11:02 (https? instead of http|https 15:11:07 er (http|https 15:11:29 ? is match of 0 or 1 15:11:41 doesn't matter I guess 15:12:01 Clarity is usually preferrable in such minor cases. 15:12:23 Well one can argue you shouldn't be reading regexp if you don't know regexp synta 15:12:26 x 15:12:52 also that plus 15:12:55 that's not right 15:12:59 after the ) 15:13:04 -!- halv has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 15:13:05 you just want one match 15:13:30 so (http|https|irc|ftp|mailto):// 15:13:47 + would allow e.g. httphttphttp:// 15:14:00 mailto doesn't use // 15:14:08 yeah good point as well 15:14:24 honestly https|ftp seems enough 15:14:35 https?|ftp I mean 15:15:12 indeed 15:16:49 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 15:16:54 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:28 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:21:19 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:23:50 sorry I was afk 15:23:56 why not just put a ^ in front of it 15:25:02 -!- ystael_ is now known as ystael 15:25:53 ah no i gotta test for just one occurence 15:30:49 araganzar: It actually does that later in the code 15:30:59 But you don't want the + after the ) 15:31:07 (https|ftp):// 15:31:08 oh yah 15:31:12 er gah 15:31:12 that was just in the old code 15:31:16 forgot to remove it 15:31:17 (https?|ftp):// 15:31:22 ok cool 15:34:05 oh i just have (https|http|ftp|irc|mailto):// 15:34:15 https? is cleaner 15:34:24 but eh 15:34:31 well Medar pointed out that mailto isn't righ 15:34:35 it doesn't use // 15:34:41 really just the http/ftp urls 15:34:44 we don't need mailto anyway 15:34:48 yeah 15:34:49 people aren't gonna type mailto:// 15:35:07 and irc seems dubious 15:35:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:26 or even mailto: really 15:35:49 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:25 -!- pelotron_ is now known as pelotron 15:38:26 gammfunk: yeah but it's legit - new patch is up 15:38:54 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Using leafChat 2] 15:38:56 people won;'t know about this and their minds will be blown when they throw in a link 15:39:19 i hope youtube is prepared to handle the new traffic 15:40:08 should change it to where the actual link for any youtube url rickrolls people for april 1st 15:40:52 I look forward to many inane webtiles chat games involving hyperlinks 15:41:49 I'm only sad that I won't be listed first in the webtiles spectator list since I play on console 15:42:37 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:42:49 araganzar: Was that commit message intentional? 15:44:51 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:45:31 which one? i don't really pay attention to them 15:45:40 i haven't learned how to edit that stuff, I guess i can just edit the patch file? 15:45:41 the one in your patch 15:45:46 no you rebase 15:45:52 and r to reword iirc 15:45:59 lets you edit commit message 15:45:59 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:46:08 oh cool 15:46:16 But you probably don't want that message to be in your actual commit :) 15:46:24 which one 15:46:31 the one in your patch 15:47:04 what "scheming"? 15:47:04 "open links in new window\nscheming\nscheming..." 15:47:17 oh - i just put in "scheming" for the patches 15:47:18 That seems to have been your commit message 15:47:23 where i was working on the scheme 15:47:31 Yeah you'll want a since, cleaned up commit message 15:47:34 *single 15:47:38 because I thought rebasing squashed them and used the original 15:47:57 It gives you the ability to edit the final commit 15:48:07 ok, i dinno if I need to upload another patch for that? I can't delete old files 15:48:12 on mantis 15:48:18 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:48:21 Sure just uploaded "_fixed.patch" 15:48:25 and maybe make a not 15:48:26 e 15:48:50 git log before you patch to check your commit message etc. 15:49:43 "git commit --amend" to edit the latest commit (message) 15:50:02 also you can edit the patch, as long as you don't mess up the format 15:50:04 oh that's handy 15:50:11 better to learn to use git properly though 15:51:25 yeah I'm just learning virtualbox, debian, relearning unix, trying to remember regexp from my college days, etc. :) 15:51:28 i appreciate the patience 15:51:35 hehe 15:51:43 virtualbox is the shit though 15:52:28 i really like the debian graphical interface too although i wind up in term 99% of the time 15:52:29 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 15:53:21 is it gnome? 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It has gedit text editor, terminals, document reader, etc... 16:31:11 nicolae-, I want to get an experimental branch going on cszo :) 16:31:15 -!- Kenran has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31:28 noice 16:31:40 it's cool to see a new god, i like gods but they get implemented so rarely 16:32:01 Quick question, what's "div_rand_round(x,y)"? 16:32:02 I'm leveraging my experience with the other gods to figure out how to get this to work properly. 16:32:12 Bloaxor, suppose x is oh, 12 and y is 5. 16:32:22 12 / 5 is 2.4, but we need an integer result. 16:32:36 ...so 60% of the time it returns 2 and 40% of the time it returns 3. 16:34:05 Does that make sense? 16:34:27 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:36:57 -!- tim_ has quit [Client Quit] 16:37:32 It certainly does. 16:38:02 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:39:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:41:47 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:48:33 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:49:27 -!- master_j has quit [Client Quit] 16:55:41 lol if your shadow action kills you 16:56:20 mikee_: usually this is if you're casting AOE spells and get caught in the blast, but there are probably other cases I haven't thought of yet. 16:57:14 is the shadow its own distinct thing yet or is it just things you do happening twice 16:57:40 maybe it's better if it's just you doing something twice 16:57:51 it sounds 'cleaner' 17:00:44 nicolae-, right now it basically creates an imaginary and temporary monster to do the mimic action. 17:00:57 (Heh... "You kill your shadow! That felt strangely unrewarding.") 17:02:05 fr: The Royal Shadow 17:02:31 fr shadow boxing 17:03:33 -!- Morg0th_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:06:11 -!- Egglet has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:06:59 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 17:11:41 -!- capablanca has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:03 -!- mikee_ has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:13:06 -!- capablanca is now known as mikee_ 17:14:41 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:15:49 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1859-g4123e94: Disallow constriction by shadow actions. 10(63 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4123e940d5bf 17:15:54 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17:53 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:18:31 -!- gnum_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:19:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:27:28 -!- araganzar has left ##crawl-dev 17:29:14 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:28 does dithmengos need more interesting piety gain/loss rules or is "DO kill things DON'T stand around" good enough 17:33:20 Well, what does a shadow god want? 17:33:37 Anything I can think of is really specific - possibly too much so to be meaningful. 17:33:38 they see a red door and they want it painted black 17:33:42 <3 17:34:10 yeah, it'd probably be necessary to expand the flavor a bit to add fancy new piety rules 17:34:31 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:00 one simple idea i had was just, piety for kills as usual, and then extra piety for killing "anti-shadow" monsters, which as far as i can decide includes anything with a halo or that can cast corona 17:35:01 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:23 nicolae-: I had the same idea (also have D hate casting Corona). 17:35:39 It's... pretty specific, though, if you think about it. 17:35:55 should clearly hate druids 17:35:55 tenofswords: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:36:07 -!- Egglet|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:36:09 yeah, that's why it wouldn't be the entire basis for piety gain, it'd just be a little bonus, like how you get extra piety for decomposing necrophages with fedhas 17:36:16 ...i think you get extra piety, i think 17:36:30 mostly for flavor but still handy now and again 17:36:46 "Dithmengos thanks you for making the dungeon a darker place." 17:37:58 ??dithmengos 17:37:58 I don't have a page labeled dithmengos in my learndb. 17:38:14 -!- anthems_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:38:18 dithmengos is the shadow god mikee proposed on the tavern and grunt is implementing 17:38:19 I guess I didn't really expect that to work 17:38:22 ah, okay 17:38:43 Dithmengos the Shadowed desires all to be dark. 17:38:46 <3 17:39:14 yea. I hate caught up with the convo nor read the tavern thread. I wasn't sure when the crazy new ideas usually made it to learndb 17:39:15 i also like "the Obscured" and "the Gloomy" but perhaps i just like fancy words 17:39:32 i assume dith will get its own learndb entry if it's merged into trunk 17:39:36 "the Obsfuscated "? 17:39:45 Obfuscated 17:39:49 the Tenebrous 17:40:15 dithmengos appreciates darkness and obscure latinate words 17:40:25 "the Inky" 17:40:42 huh, i wonder if there's some way to expand the flavor to include more metaphorical obfuscations 17:40:47 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:41:07 though i'm not sure how that'd translate into gameplay at lal 17:41:22 reshuffling scroll and potion identification? 17:41:32 gaining piety by quaffID? 17:41:37 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:51 probably best not to mess around too hard with the ID game 17:41:53 probably not what you were thinking 17:42:05 yeah, i'm just spitballing idly 17:42:13 i just like thinkin' about gods, is all 17:43:45 so at max piety, is the LoS radius minimized? 17:44:31 i though dith just granted an umbra instead of reducing LoS 17:44:36 nicolae- is correct. 17:44:59 it might be a useful invocation or addon to shadow form, or perhaps not 17:47:44 oh god please don't give it nightstalker 17:48:21 Why would I want to do that? 17:48:30 Spite. 17:49:52 that's your motivation for many things 17:50:04 do you mean me or grunt? 17:50:11 grunt 17:50:17 you could be spiteful too; who knows! 17:50:17 o_O 17:50:20 that goes without saying 17:51:17 i have made some spite vaults when i was feeling grouchy but i usually don't because i'm a bad player and couldn't stand the ignominy of killing myself with my own vault 17:52:28 oh and grunt 17:52:34 i can't really do the altar :c 17:52:59 but did you see the monstrosity of an altar he made 17:53:05 he must be stopped bloax 17:53:30 i wonder if it's possible to have an altar whose tile gets less distinct as you walk away, so it's more shadowy and blurry from a distance and only upclose does the true shape take form 17:54:06 there wouldn't be any mechanical effect or anything it would just be a visual effect like jiyva's altar wobbling 17:56:44 -!- Morphy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:59:23 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:03:27 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:06:24 -!- Egglet has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:09:38 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:11:29 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:17:10 Retreating allies do not react to commands properly. by dck 18:21:53 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:44 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:05 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:31:32 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:37 if you're going to make the god give umbra make sure it gives darkvision too 18:31:38 Eronarn: You have 89 messages. Use !messages to read them. 18:31:45 otherwise it's like a permanent acc penalty 18:32:03 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:34:58 what's dark vision? 18:35:04 Eronarn: already done. 18:35:12 nicolae-: badly named? 18:35:19 damn, Eronarn, you're popular today 18:35:27 nicolae-: it's immunity to the accuracy penalties of Umbra. 18:35:41 gotcha 18:35:49 I was talking with MarvinPA earlier and we agreed it should be called umbravision instead. 18:36:22 -!- Egglet|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:36:23 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:42 -!- Tophwells has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:36:57 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:38:52 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:52:04 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:57:30 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:06:35 -!- Egglet has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:07:13 Remove berserk from MuBe's ability screen by Sprucery 19:09:06 Eronarn: well, TSO gives a permanent acc bonus... 19:11:13 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:14:46 -!- Thann has quit [Quit: Thann] 19:15:08 -!- Guillome_renard is now known as qoon 19:21:58 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 19:23:28 -!- DayBay has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:27:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:28 03Grunt02 07[shadow-god] * 0.14-a0-1860-gcc64d84: A few lines of ghost and Donald dialogue for Dithmengos. 10(50 seconds ago, 1 file, 27+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc64d84d1212 19:31:58 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:32:37 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1839-g698cb9c: Let people choose old monster colours. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=698cb9ceb72d 19:32:37 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1840-g3ce0962: Don't say that MuBe can go berserk. 10(39 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ce0962849e3 19:33:04 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1841-gc1a7223: Teach db_lint how to check gods.txt 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1a7223c63d8 19:33:04 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1842-ge14b453: Remove unused god placeholder descriptions. 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e14b45352383 19:33:29 Oh, when did the Fe glyph colour get changed? I'd meant to do that myself at some point. 19:34:12 oh, actually, it did not 19:34:12 kilobyte: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:34:21 * kilobyte somehow was sure otherwise. 19:34:37 kilobyte: better change it right now then! <_< 19:34:39 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:35:02 yeah 19:35:55 unused: blue, green, cyan, magenta, lightgreen 19:35:59 I was going to use blue. 19:36:07 so be it 19:36:26 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:08 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38:00 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1843-g71426fa: Blue cats. 10(27 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=71426fa34d3a 19:39:16 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1844-g8283a67: Compat settings: demonspawn were darkgrey as well. 10(41 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8283a6738187 19:40:45 -!- eith has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:37 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:45:30 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 19:52:49 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:25 Grunt> Well, what does a shadow god want? 19:53:33 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:48 grunt: i dont think a complex piety thing is needed, but it would be flavourful to get an extra boost for killing "light" monsters 19:54:01 which i'm thinking would be anything w/ a halo 19:54:10 yeah, that's what i was thinking 19:54:29 that and monsters which can cast corona, of which there's maybe two, i think 19:54:35 i dont really like that as much 19:54:54 i prefer if rewards are based on really simple rules, and with halos you can tell just at a glance 19:54:58 good point 19:55:08 otherwise you wind up with weird things like zin piety for killing komodo dragons 19:55:32 dith should also forbid using things that give you halo, which i think is just the mace of brilliance 19:55:33 kirke has corona, what 19:55:39 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:56:00 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 19:56:21 (gnoll shaman kirke dowan faun spriggan druid, yeah this is a dumb list) 19:56:47 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:57:27 also if this god gives umbra, can umbra please be changed so it's not disco-mode in console? 19:57:41 god of shadows and also dancing 19:58:51 -!- soundlust has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59:00 god of dancing shadow puppets 19:59:33 also, shadow form looks really weird to me, just a bunch of undead-like abilities and some weird miasma thing 19:59:54 I want to get rid of the miasma part, at least. 19:59:58 invocations lets you do fancier shadow puppets 20:00:02 imo it should let you do the trick monster shadows do, where you go invisible and stab things 20:00:44 ...you can *already* go invisible and stab things in a large number of ways. 20:00:58 yeah :P 20:01:18 if it's monster-shadow-invis it obviously also gives glowless haste 20:01:31 but disappears after a single action? 20:01:41 what if shadow form was just the benefits of being insubstantial with some rN+++, invisibility, damage reduction 20:01:45 it's not a great idea, but the form needs something else. because otherwise it seems to be jhust a bunch of resists 20:02:02 walk through transparent features 20:02:03 i think if you're a shadow, the ability should have something to do with darkness 20:02:22 and this could mean invisiblity. I don't know 20:02:24 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:02:25 -!- nixor has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:39 yeah, whatever else happens with shadow form i feel like invisibility would be a good fit for it 20:03:04 Will gloorx have a chance of becoming neutral to dithmengos worshipers 20:03:48 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04:04 -!- beef42 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:04:48 maybe shadow form is inperceptible even to monsters with see invisible 20:04:57 no thanks 20:05:04 nicolae-: that sounds extremely overpowered 20:05:16 ah well 20:05:20 ??grand grimoire 20:05:20 grand grimoire[1/1]: Demonic Horde, Mass Abjuration, Haunt, Summon Greater Demon, Malign Gateway, Summon Horrible Things - Requires 6 spellcasting and 10 summonings to memorize spells out of this book. 20:05:21 I was thinking about stealthy god ideas earlier 20:05:34 just going with "darkness" as a concept might be a bit limited 20:05:48 its not about power, its about "now see invisible means "sees invisible except for _____" 20:06:11 yeah, true, probably best not to screw around with familiar existing mechanics too much 20:06:46 what about a god of dreams/nightmares, that could work 20:06:52 -!- Egglet|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:07:20 i think shadows and darkness still has some meat in it, no need to change it all up yet 20:07:42 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:07:42 replace shadow form with dancing lantern of shadows form 20:08:22 what disadvantages would shadow form have 20:08:42 I can't imagine punching people or hitting them with stuff works as well when you're a shadow 20:09:51 yeah i think grunt was going to make it so your damage output was halved too 20:10:00 since incoming damage is halved, currently 20:10:10 So is outgoing damage, currently. 20:10:25 You also get the lantern's double anti-enhancer effect. 20:10:42 what if shadow form let you move through monsters, like how fedhas lets you walk through plants 20:11:01 I was going to say 50% damage reduction is a lot, but if incoming damage is halved too that's probably fine 20:11:11 it would make it really advantageous to conjuring and stabbing types 20:11:38 although I guess halving total stabbing damage is still pretty significant 20:12:01 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:13:17 about the lantern, what if it gave you umbra instead of that weird decorative effect? 20:13:18 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:13:58 wouldn't that make it less useful unless it also granted umbravision 20:14:41 the lantern is quite weird that it kills stealth 20:16:59 kills stealth, yet reduces LOS 20:17:22 maybe it's just really really obvious from up close 20:17:40 a big ball of darkness 20:18:03 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all!] 20:18:36 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18:51 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:05 the Darkness spell specifically describes its effect as having very gradual effects, to avoid such ball of darkness revealing you 20:19:31 strictly speaking, all LOS-reducing effects affect the whole level :p 20:20:30 not that monsters fighting out of LOS is something with any importance 20:28:13 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:29:37 -!- evilmike has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:53 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:05 -!- ChrisOelmueller has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:30:06 -!- Chris_Oelmueller is now known as ChrisOelmueller 20:32:57 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:36:43 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 20:37:12 -!- Egglet has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:38:14 -!- nixor has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:01 -!- nixor1 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:24 -!- tortuga has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:46:11 -!- nixor2 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:23 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:46:47 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:46:51 -!- nixor2 has left ##crawl-dev 20:47:21 -!- nixor1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:49:12 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 20:49:19 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:49:41 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 20:54:33 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 21:05:30 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:07:39 -!- Egglet|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:11:08 -!- Quashie has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:13:03 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 21:24:52 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:28:26 -!- alefury has quit [] 21:37:37 -!- Egglet has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:42:19 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:49:02 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1844-g8283a67 21:54:48 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 21:56:28 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59:15 -!- tenofswords has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:01:47 -!- Nightdew14 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:07:03 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 22:08:08 -!- morik has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:08:08 -!- Egglet|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:08:14 -!- morik____ is now known as morik 22:15:37 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:31:13 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:34:56 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:36:22 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:37:37 -!- Egglet has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:37:46 -!- eith|2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:41 -!- Klightning has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:45:45 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:49:03 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 22:49:43 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:52:21 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:55:04 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 22:56:37 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:56:45 -!- rast- is now known as rast 22:56:49 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:28 -!- NotKintak is now known as Kintak 23:03:31 -!- ChrisOelmueller has quit [Quit: They are in love. 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