00:00:09 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:00:24 So where do I find out what needs to be done? 00:00:31 i signed up with the mantis website 00:00:42 and i probably want to join some mailing list 00:01:32 <|amethyst> ??crd 00:01:32 crd[1/2]: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crawl-ref-discuss 00:01:43 <|amethyst> most of the discussion goes on here 00:02:26 any advice on any additional security measures for my ssh user? My vps already doesn't allow password authentication and only my main account and the crawl ssh account are even allowed to ssh into it 00:02:44 not sure if there's anything else I should do 00:03:41 what's this daily digest they speak of in the mailing list? 00:05:20 CyberSandwich: it smooshes all emails for each day into one email and sends them to you at the end of the day 00:05:23 whenever that is 00:05:42 ??devwiki 00:05:43 dev wiki[1/1]: The dev wiki (to discuss changes and additions): https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start 00:05:48 there is also that 00:05:52 so if i said no it would give me everything individually? 00:05:58 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1761-gdbd231b (34) 00:06:00 CyberSandwich: yes 00:06:05 digest is kind of odd 00:06:14 not very pleasant to work with IMO 00:06:20 yeah i think i'll go for regular 00:06:25 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-1761-gdbd231b (34) 00:09:18 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 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connection] 01:13:15 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:13:56 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:20:43 was there a recent change so you can't waste enchant weapon scrolls on randarts? 01:24:11 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:24:41 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 01:25:29 -!- fren is now known as horsemans 01:28:08 -!- horsemans has quit [Client Quit] 01:29:01 <|amethyst> %git fbb0a40 01:29:01 07MarvinPA02 * 0.12-a0-1178-gfbb0a40: Don't waste EW scrolls on uncursed artefacts/staves 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbb0a40a4588 01:29:10 <|amethyst> not recent exactly 01:35:53 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:43:17 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:44:17 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 01:50:25 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:51:39 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-1761-gdbd231b (34) 01:59:10 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:01:49 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:02:07 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:16 |amethyst: i could swear i did it just a couple days ago 02:07:35 maybe i was on vinestalker branch, if that changes anything 02:07:47 or maybe i just wasted them on a weapon that i knew i wasn't keeping long term 02:07:48 <|amethyst> shouldn't make a difference 02:07:57 probably the latter then 02:07:59 <|amethyst> maybe it was cursed? 02:08:09 that could be it too 02:08:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:09:38 in a related question, have EW3 scrolls become more common, or have i just been lucky the past week or so? 02:11:55 <|amethyst> just luck 02:13:37 <|amethyst> the only change to scroll generation in the past several months is that Immolation can appear early 02:13:47 <|amethyst> and vorpalise being renamed 02:16:16 makes sense 02:16:38 although whoever is responsible for letting you pick what weapon you want to brand with that scroll deserves an award 02:17:12 <|amethyst> %git 38bf203 02:17:12 07MarvinPA02 * 0.13-a0-2691-g38bf203: Allow selecting a weapon when reading ?vorpalise 10(5 months ago, 2 files, 28+ 35-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=38bf203fdfce 02:17:17 <|amethyst> %git 6dfddf1 02:17:17 07MarvinPA02 * 0.13-a0-2738-g6dfddf1: Make scrolls of vorpalise weapon target a weapon without having to wield it 10(5 months ago, 7 files, 97+ 45-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6dfddf1c4dda 02:17:18 i ruined at least 2 pain weapons with that dumb scroll when it just assigned a random brand to whatever branded weapon you were holding 02:22:24 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23:18 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 02:27:10 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:32:44 -!- buppy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:39:50 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:52:02 -!- 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For normal mummies (i.e. 'a mummy'), this could curse items. For other mummies (e.g. 'guardian mummy'), it will be a random {necromancy miscast} effect. Regular mummies are vulnerable to fire damage. 09:45:19 ??mummy[2 09:45:19 mummy[2/7]: Try a wand of enslavement or summons to handle the regular sort. It'll let you avoid the death curse. 09:45:20 ??mummy[3 09:45:20 mummy[3/7]: Mummy PCs do not need to eat food to survive. They also resist necromantic and cold attacks, are immune to poison, but vulnerable to fire. Also, they get permanent necro magic enhancers at xl13 and 26. Lastly, they cannot drink potions, change form or go berserk. According to syrion, PC mummies use bladders for firing blowguns. 09:45:23 ??mummy[4 09:45:24 mummy[4/7]: Spells player mummies can't use: regeneration, revivification, symbol of torment, death's door, stoneskin, alistair's intoxication, any form-changing spell (including blade hands and necromutation), and spells that would have no useful effect such as cure poison. 09:45:34 ??mummy[5 09:45:34 mummy[5/7]: Take your gear off, drop it all, including your weapon, and challenge a mummy to a good old fashioned round of fisticuffs. Not only does this avoid the death curse, it is also extremely gentlemanly. 09:45:38 ??mummy[6 09:45:39 mummy[6/7]: Zetwiuwo moans, "Get thee gone, thou cockered inflammable dustbag!" 09:45:41 ??mummy[7 09:45:42 mummy[7/7]: man, look at these apts with a + before them 09:47:43 ??spellcasting 09:47:43 spellcasting[1/1]: Gives you an extra spell slot for every half of a level in spellcasting. Raising your spellcasting also gives you more MP, lowers {spell hunger}, and slightly boosts {spell success} and {spell power} for all spells. 09:48:20 ??intelligence 09:48:20 int[1/1]: Affects your spell casting success, your spell power, your spell hunger and how well you can use one or two fixedarts or so. When it reaches 0, you cannot cast spells or read scrolls, and will eventually die -- by far the most common reason to read {stat drain}. 09:49:45 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:55:11 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:10:06 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:48 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:14:33 -!- juls has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 10:15:20 !messages 10:15:20 No messages for TZer0. 10:17:40 -!- cr0ne has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:21:54 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:23:49 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:28:03 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:32:24 -!- Tophwells has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:34:51 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:52:10 -!- ONeEyeDJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:52:41 -!- Guest15925 is now known as myp 10:53:03 -!- Fortescue has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:05:02 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:05:12 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 11:05:55 -!- scummos| has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:09:12 -!- scummos^ has quit [Client Quit] 11:13:15 -!- ChrisOelmueller has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:16:14 -!- scummos^ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:17:46 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1761-gdbd231b (34) 11:18:12 hm 11:18:27 * geekosaur just saw that monster-not-in-los bug in console (local) 11:18:38 <|amethyst> which one? 11:20:15 %bug 7928 11:20:15 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7928 11:20:43 had a herd of yaks and one kept being showed (greyed out) in a spot I should not have been able to see 11:20:57 <|amethyst> geekosaur: was it a square that you had never seen? 11:21:02 no 11:21:07 <|amethyst> then it's a different bug 11:21:13 oh 11:21:18 <|amethyst> %bug 3790 11:21:18 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3790 11:21:34 SamB: as for autotools, I'd say the choices are real autotools, or Google ninja + some homebrew. The latter is a make replacement that requires a quite different way of writing makefiles that would be great for something automakey. 11:21:40 <|amethyst> (which jpeg closed some time ago as not a bug) 11:21:54 real make tries to be smart 11:22:05 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:22:29 <|amethyst> though now that you mention it 11:23:00 <|amethyst> Medar: is it possible what you saw in #7928 is the same as #3790? 11:23:21 <|amethyst> Medar: from a out-of-sight monster swapping with the in-sight ogre 11:23:47 <|amethyst> Medar: #4104 is related as well 11:24:04 It could be, yes. 11:24:11 <|amethyst> adding relationships on mantis 11:26:13 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:06 <|amethyst> mantis FR: New relationship: Current issue "it's complicated" #1234 11:27:18 <|amethyst> Current issue "single" 11:27:25 Might also be something to do with detection. 11:27:54 Was 3790 fixed, or just considered not a bug? 11:28:22 <|amethyst> not a bug I think, given jpeg's comments and that it was she who closed it 11:30:26 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:37 <|amethyst> Medar: you could probably drum up support to reverse that if you can make a good argument 11:30:52 <|amethyst> Medar: it sounds like elliptic's already inclined that way 11:31:32 Pointless without a patch :P 11:32:17 <|amethyst> %git da98dbce45 11:32:17 07jpeg02 * 0.9.0-a0-101-gda98dbc: Mantis #3790: Keep monster trails if monsters swap on the edge of LOS. 10(2 years, 9 months ago, 4 files, 8+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=da98dbce45c0 11:32:25 Oh. 11:32:40 <|amethyst> ohh 11:32:50 <|amethyst> it is supposed to be prevented for unseen squares 11:32:58 That's probably where detection comes in 11:33:02 yeah, the thing in 3790 looked like a clear bug to me but I wasn't going to argue it more 11:33:26 It doesn't really seem to add anything to the game, except a weird "is this a bug" moment once in a while 11:33:46 <|amethyst> the problem is, if we showed a trail whenever a monster enters LOS, the map would be ugly 11:33:47 And it's not consistent with other situations of monsters leaving LOS 11:34:09 I mean we don't add trail, even if there someone is fleeing in a corridor for example 11:34:11 <|amethyst> so handling it in just this one situation seems a little weird 11:34:18 Indeed 11:35:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 11:37:09 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:37:33 So .known() is true for a square with detected monster, right? 11:38:54 I should note that my character has no monster detection at all 11:39:38 But it happened in a square you had seen. 11:39:56 The thing detection adds, it allows it to happen in a square you haven't seen, but a monster has been detected in. 11:42:53 <|amethyst> !tell buppy How do you want to be listed in credits.txt ? 11:42:53 |amethyst: OK, I'll let buppy know. 11:43:01 <|amethyst> !tell Basil How do you want to be listed in credits.txt ? 11:43:01 |amethyst: OK, I'll let basil know. 11:43:37 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:43:38 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 11:43:57 <|amethyst> !tell badplayer How do you want to be listed in credits.txt 11:43:58 |amethyst: OK, I'll let badplayer know. 11:44:05 <|amethyst> !tell wheals How do you want to be listed in credits.txt 11:44:05 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 11:44:22 Ran out of question marks 11:45:37 <|amethyst> oops :) 11:45:48 <|amethyst> I also ran out of capital letters apparently 11:46:50 |amethyst: Sage will be good. 11:46:50 Basil: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:46:52 !messages 11:46:53 (1/1) |amethyst said (3m 51s ago): How do you want to be listed in credits.txt ? 11:47:20 hi 11:48:03 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 11:48:12 <|amethyst> Naruni: I forget if we asked you: you're listed as "Naruni", would you rather have your real name there? 11:48:53 |amethyst: im fine with that, thank you! 11:54:38 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1762-g1e95d3e: Thank a spice rack in CREDITS.txt 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e95d3e694f5 11:54:43 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:54:48 |amethyst: good commit message <3 11:55:37 (we really should compile our best commit messages somewhere, though we'd need to get someone unbiased to curate) 11:55:51 guys, I got something strange... 11:56:37 I just compiled crawl 11:57:05 and when I try to start it I got : "the program is to large to stay in memory" 11:57:15 <|amethyst> what OS? 11:57:22 win xp 11:57:27 <|amethyst> how big is the binary? 11:57:42 150m 11:57:49 <|amethyst> hm 11:58:00 it seems normal for me 11:58:21 <|amethyst> Cedor: is the typo in the original? 11:58:26 <|amethyst> Cedor: "to large" 11:58:39 oh 11:58:42 too 11:58:58 (it's in french, it was a quick translation) 11:58:59 <|amethyst> is that an exact quote? 11:59:01 <|amethyst> Oh 11:59:11 <|amethyst> what's the French? 12:00:18 Programme trop grand pour tenir en mémoire 12:00:18 Press [Enter] to close the terminal ... 12:01:13 oh 12:01:25 seems it's a dll problem... 12:01:36 what did I yesterday... 12:01:51 <|amethyst> I encountered one thing that said that happens when you try to run a too large DOS problem 12:01:56 <|amethyst> s/problem/program/ 12:02:06 ok 12:02:08 <|amethyst> but we haven't had DOS builds of Crawl for a long long time 12:02:25 then I have something that changed in the make... 12:02:28 i'll have a look 12:02:30 thanks 12:03:20 <|amethyst> Yeah, I guess if a library is trying to allocate 4 gigs that would do it even for a 32-bit app :) 12:08:48 -!- Sombrero_Mott is now known as FaMott 12:08:58 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:09:44 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:14:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:15:07 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:20:18 * Grunt toils away on a few ideas he's had recently... 12:21:07 -!- scrubnub has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:29:15 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:33:31 -!- vadatajs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:34:17 (okay Chei, show them my ideas) 12:34:27 New branch created: snake-enemies (4 commits) 12:34:28 03Grunt02 07[snake-enemies] * 0.14-a0-1762-g6126824: Let monsters cast Static Discharge; support for arbitrary start points. 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 4 files, 54+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6126824ef240 12:34:28 03Grunt02 07[snake-enemies] * 0.14-a0-1763-ga121526: Shock serpents. 10(51 minutes ago, 8 files, 51+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1215268389b 12:34:28 03Grunt02 07[snake-enemies] * 0.14-a0-1764-gb6670c2: Sapper snakes. 10(31 minutes ago, 5 files, 34+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6670c2c8b4d 12:34:28 03Grunt02 07[snake-enemies] * 0.14-a0-1765-g0652342: Two new professional nagas: naga enchanters and marksnagas. 10(5 minutes ago, 10 files, 111+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=06523422c6ca 12:35:14 * Grunt will be back after lunch to receive the thrown rotten fruit headed his way <_< 12:36:39 <|amethyst> Grunt: sapper snake sounds like vine stalker 12:37:25 <|amethyst> Grunt: also, purely a name thing, I expect "snapper sake" to blow up walls 12:37:37 <|amethyst> Grunt: err, "sapper snake" of course 12:39:43 <|amethyst> Grunt: and "Invisibility Other" is a little awkward, perhaps "Make Other Invisible" or just "Make Invisible" or something along those lines? 12:40:31 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:41:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:42:40 <|amethyst> Grunt: (and there have been complaints about a lack of sling bullets in the game, what about making that an option for the marksnagas (and possibly giving them shields if they have slings)? 12:43:07 <|amethyst> Grunt: http://xkcd.com/859/ 12:44:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:56 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 12:45:08 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 12:46:33 <|amethyst> Grunt: and I know it would be completely irrelevant, but the shock serpent conductive-despite-rElec thing could apply to electric golems 12:48:25 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 12:56:05 Grunt: Why are you adding more enemies to snake 12:57:10 -!- ReteAZ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:57:56 could make invisibility targetable in general 12:58:02 kind of silly that haste is about the only buff that is 12:58:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 12:59:19 -!- master_j has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:01:52 Grunt: imo give sapper snakes MP poison rather than antimagic-and-heal; the latter is more appropriate for a leech-like monster (or vine stalker monsters in swamp) than a snake 13:02:54 marksnagas are OK but maybe make leda's better/less weird first? 13:04:22 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:05:26 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:51 -!- dck has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:45 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:09:23 so why new snake enemies 13:09:39 -!- CyberSandwich has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:12 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 13:17:28 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:18:27 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:19:27 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:41 Lightli: what is Snake's current enemy set? 13:25:53 Lightli: what are the other lair branches' enemy sets? 13:25:58 nagas and snakes 13:26:30 compared to spiders and moths, lots of sealife, and the grab-bag that is swamp 13:27:10 Lightli: notice an overt difference between those? 13:27:17 yes 13:27:25 (also, you're missing a lot in Spider) 13:27:42 snake is literally just snakes and naga 13:28:10 cant wait to play the new snake! Thanks Grunt. 13:28:10 badplayer: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:28:20 !messages 13:28:20 (1/1) |amethyst said (1h 44m 22s ago): How do you want to be listed in credits.txt 13:29:11 Why do people here use !tell instead of /msg ?? 13:29:36 in case the other player isn't there 13:29:47 ahh makes good sense. 13:29:48 which can easily happen thanks to that foul spectre of REAL LIFE 13:30:10 Anyway, my point is that Snake has a much narrower monster set than the other lair branches. 13:30:32 ...and at least one other person had indicated a desire to keep it as narrowly defined as it is now, so I'm trying to expand what I can within that constraint. 13:30:59 |amethyst: "invisibility other" is meant to be consistent with "haste other" and "might other", for the record :b 13:31:27 can you use !tell and make it private? 13:31:37 i.e. often I see people use !tell and I can see the tell 13:32:35 badplayer: /query Sequell 13:32:37 you can PM sequell 13:33:41 |amethyst: and you're welcome to come up with a better name for sapper snakes <_< 13:33:45 (or give them digging abilities) 13:33:52 (which would be terrible) 13:35:07 |amethyst: I mean "sapper" in the "one who saps" sense as opposed to the undermining sense :) 13:35:12 rasp :V 13:35:41 What I would like to know is why bats and ce spawn in shoals. 13:36:06 (in FF, rasp is a -MP spell) 13:36:11 !send Eronarn Osmose 13:36:11 Sending Osmose to Eronarn. 13:36:48 dck: imo bats should be replaced by keep range parrots that squawk 13:36:52 and be much rarer 13:37:00 like, maybe expected .5 per shoals 13:37:30 seconded 13:37:41 (parrots also attract krakens) 13:37:44 You hear a squawk. 13:39:34 <|amethyst> dck: Ce spawn in shoals because it's vaguely Aegean-themed 13:39:34 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:41:15 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1763-gb71b725: Add badplayer to CREDITS.txt 10(51 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b71b72513a6b 13:41:51 what is an explanation on why my cron job caused my 0.13 to be updated three times in a row to the same version? 13:41:54 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.boylecraft.net updated to: 0.13.1-22-g086cdba 13:42:14 last night's update didn't create a message 13:42:33 but the 3 before had the same versions and announced as updated 13:42:47 <|amethyst> what's your cron job? 13:43:14 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:15 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:44:20 just the lines from the wiki for trunk and 0.13. added to crontab to run in the morning. I can paste the code in a couple minutes 13:44:42 * tenofswords sighs 13:45:38 somebody's trying to push on old-fauns and old-satyrs again 13:45:57 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:27 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:47:15 what did old-fauns and old-satyrs do 13:47:34 also, we should have some melee Ce monsters :( 13:47:47 <|amethyst> Leda' 13:48:04 <|amethyst> tenofswords: well, as Grunt points out, Nagas have stable footing, so the problems are a bit less 13:48:31 also corona! 13:48:33 |amethyst: you can put me in credits as pubby 13:48:41 |amethyst: http://pastebin.com/p8eArahg 13:48:42 -!- myfreeweb has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:49:35 -!- cesium has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:49:35 (also naga do not actually have stable footing in an immediate test) 13:49:50 could be that it's not being applied because it's not proper water? 13:49:53 but they should have it 13:50:32 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1764-g73aa22b: Add þuþþy to CREDITS.txt 10(29 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=73aa22b3d056 13:51:00 <|amethyst> johnstein: no idea why that would run any of them more than once a day 13:51:40 <|amethyst> You might add #! /bin/sh as the first line of the script, and make sure it's executable 13:52:02 <|amethyst> but if anything that would make it *not* run rather than running extra times 13:52:13 |amethyst: sorry, my question was poorly worded. I've run the update-crawl script 4 times. 2 times for the cronjob (which ran ok) one time manually last night, and then again via the cron job this morning 13:52:41 the first 3 times it ran, my bot said: 13:52:43 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.boylecraft.net updated to: 0.13.1-22-g086cdba 13:52:45 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.boylecraft.net updated to: 0.13.1-22-g086cdba 13:52:46 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.boylecraft.net updated to: 0.13.1-22-g086cdba 13:53:06 <|amethyst> hm 13:53:09 this morning's job didn't make an update. I was surprised that if the version is the same, why would it try to update? 13:53:26 in the log this morning, it explicitly said that it was the current version, so no update was made 13:53:44 I was wondering if there were other reasons it would update, even if the version number was identical 13:54:05 if not, then I'll just chalk it up to "weird weirdness" and keep monitoring it 13:54:27 I do a periodic check to ensure the versions on mine are matching cszo, and so far, we are always synced up 13:54:45 ...oh, I have a better idea for marksnagas than Leda's. 13:55:00 <|amethyst> johnstein: oh 13:55:00 (also, apparently liquid ground doesn't check extra stability; it's only water) 13:55:10 <|amethyst> johnstein: I bet it's because of the different versions 13:55:14 <|amethyst> johnstein: OS versions 13:55:14 (I do have to admit I have a write-up for something, https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=user:hangedman#monster_designshttps://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=user:hangedman#monster_designs) 13:55:15 %git 13:55:15 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-1764-g73aa22b: Add þuþþy to CREDITS.txt 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=73aa22b3d056 13:55:19 whoops 13:55:21 %git arrival 13:55:21 Could not find commit arrival (git returned 128) 13:55:42 <|amethyst> johnstein: it tries running $CRAWL_BINARY_PATH/crawl-0.13 -version to get the installed version 13:55:43 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:22 <|amethyst> johnstein: so running something from the chroot while outside the chroot 13:58:03 ??git 13:58:03 git[1/2]: Readonly: git clone git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git Read/Write: git@gitorious.org:crawl/crawl.git Web interface: http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git or http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl 13:58:32 !cmd help git 13:58:32 Unknown command: git 13:58:45 ok I give 13:58:46 <|amethyst> johnstein: read through crawl-build/update-crawl-stable-build.sh and chroot/sbin/install-stable.sh 13:59:00 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:59:09 ok. I will do that 13:59:09 Ty 13:59:22 <|amethyst> Lightli: all the arguments are combined into a single git refspec 13:59:32 k 13:59:43 <|amethyst> Lightli: man gitrevisions will show you that you want 13:59:47 <|amethyst> %git :/arrival 13:59:47 07ChrisOelmueller02 {|amethyst} * 0.14-a0-1744-gcd66a63: Fix two D arrival vaults with multiple upstairs 10(28 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd66a63a8005 14:00:13 <|amethyst> going further back is a pain, use real git for that so you get a list instead of one commit 14:00:18 yeah I did 14:01:02 (also I'm not fond of the comparative qualities of ghost moths and sapper snakes, or the haste-other monsters when mages/greaters make themselves distinct in the first place with haste) 14:02:09 ((clearly should call sapper snakes "subtractors")) 14:06:17 yes 14:06:27 return of the subtractor snake 14:07:30 <|amethyst> You feel diminished! 14:08:00 ??subtractor snake 14:08:00 subtractor snake[1/1]: Zot-exclusive snake that resembled a speed 18 lower-hp klown without blinking. An extinct species. 14:11:41 (klowns could easily have more interesting brands but that is irrelevant to snake pit) 14:13:21 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:13:43 -!- Cedor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:15:15 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:15:20 -!- Neuromancer has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:18:40 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:19:21 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:24 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:21:08 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:15 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:24:57 03Grunt02 07[snake-enemies] * 0.14-a0-1766-g9a53a04: Implement Portal Projectile for marksnagas in place of Leda's. 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 7 files, 79+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a53a04cfbf3 14:24:57 03Grunt02 07[snake-enemies] * 0.14-a0-1767-g5890b64: Give marksnagas a chance of a sling and shield (|amethyst). 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5890b645b80f 14:25:39 (I'm still not completely sure if "marksnaga" is hilarious or terrible as a name.) 14:26:27 <|amethyst> It only becomes terrible if you use it as an excuse to give them Sentinel's Mark 14:26:48 < 14:26:49 <3 14:26:50 Or have one in a pack led by a human named "Mark" 14:26:55 No, Mark has enough uses right now :b 14:28:00 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: brb] 14:28:11 Hm. 14:28:39 <|amethyst> FR: two groups of four uniques, overlapping in one unique. You can only get one group per game: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John; and John, Paul, George, and Ringo 14:28:44 It's gonna be real strange if your new guardian serpents blink these guys on top of you. 14:29:02 I deliberately didn't place them in guardian serpent accompaniments. 14:29:21 gj grunt. 14:29:25 <|amethyst> they'll still be on the level though? 14:29:43 <|amethyst> or does BAE prefer nearby or band monsters? 14:29:46 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:29:53 <|amethyst> ??guardian serpent 14:29:53 guardian serpent[1/2]: A big snake, usually found in Snake:5 or guarding a vault of treasure (or mimics). Venom bolt, lesser healing, slow, teleport other. Leaves mutalicious corpses. Dangerous if they teleport you in Snake:5 because you might wind up on the wrong end of the greater naga vault. Unlike real nagas, they have no hands. Also, they're twice as fast. 14:29:57 guardian serpent (16S) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 30-58 | AC/EV: 6/14 | Dam: 26 | spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(64), 03poison | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 458 | Sp: b.venom (3d13), b.slow, blink allies encircling | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 14:29:57 <|amethyst> %??guardian serpent 14:30:06 are there going to be some changes made to, ahem, the rune vaults 14:30:55 ringo the boring beetle, george the goliath beetle, paul the boulder beetle, john the chaos beetle 14:31:13 buppy: <3 14:34:04 uh 14:34:16 why is the report on marksnaga getting Portal Projectile dated over a year ago 14:34:48 <|amethyst> Lightli: probably git commit --amended from the earlier patch mentioned in the commit message 14:34:49 ...oh, it probably pulled the old timestamp <_< 14:35:06 <|amethyst> (or squashed with rebase -i etc) 14:38:07 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:30 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Quit: Finnish forwards learn from an early age that the only way to score is to get really lucky, so why bother training] 14:42:48 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:43:56 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:23 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:01:16 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:18 03Grunt02 07[snake-enemies] * 0.14-a0-1768-g1ccb4f7: Experimentally replace a few of the rune vault enemies with the new guys. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 30+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ccb4f7034ec 15:07:38 is just every patch I do going to war back and forth between putting monsters in MONS: on line ot two lines versus giving them all one line 15:09:50 or is this about keeping arbitrary standards with inconsistent old state of vaults, or trying to make inherently-difficult-for-people-with-little-patience vault reading easier 15:10:23 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:03 marksnaga... 15:13:21 shock serpent, sapper snake 15:14:25 (I'm still offering up that devwiki write-up of a chei ouroboros) 15:15:30 -!- Morphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:16:34 are you shocked into silence, simmarine 15:22:50 tenofswords: hmm, I don't think I have the context for that "war back and forth" bit ... 15:24:23 inconsistent styles except not for code things 15:26:17 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:28:26 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:42 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:35:07 tenofswords: i really hope it rolls to get around 15:35:42 -!- Cedor has quit [Quit: Quitte] 15:35:43 of course the ouroboros rolls to get around how else would it keep that clock stuck in it 15:37:49 Mark books as throwable when worshipping trog by pubby 15:39:47 -!- halv has quit [Client Quit] 15:44:59 -!- pantaril_ is now known as pantaril 15:50:17 -!- Weeksy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:40 -!- Neuromancer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:52:16 I'm in a Bazaar on CSZO webtiles, and the shops in the bazaar are surrounded by 8 white pavement-looking tiles, but the tiles in the N position seem to be graphical bugs of some kind. 15:54:18 the solution is to throw out those tiles and use some kind of ambient light display instead 15:56:12 Is this the kind of thing worth submitting as a bug? 15:56:50 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:14 probably 16:01:09 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:02:38 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:05:10 <|amethyst> tenofswords: an equivalent of coding_conventions.txt for vaults would be nice, yes 16:05:40 <|amethyst> tenofswords: (not necessarily the same thing as the vaults guide, since that's more about design and this would be more technical) 16:05:56 there are some limits to how insane I am 16:06:43 <|amethyst> Re MONS: I think one monster per MONS: is best 16:06:58 <|amethyst> it's much easier to tell at a glance which monster has which glyph 16:07:21 <|amethyst> not to say all the old stuff has to be revised 16:07:28 <|amethyst> if it is, it should probably be with a script 16:08:56 vaulting_conventions.txt perhaps? 16:08:58 -!- OneEyedJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:10:48 order of header, order of tags, .des placement, K[MONS|ITEM|FEAT] glyph per case substitution, logic order checks, 16:11:09 how much should be functionized, 16:11:20 <|amethyst> : vs {{ 16:11:23 (like I implied, this is a pit of... snakes) 16:12:06 <|amethyst> a shed of bikes maybe :) 16:12:14 we need to codify : vs {{ ? 16:12:20 <|amethyst> though some things I think would be uncontroversial 16:12:29 are you saying you can use multiple : in a row for a multi-line construct? 16:12:30 <|amethyst> SamB: e.g. should you use multi-line : 16:12:33 <|amethyst> SamB: yes 16:12:36 DEPTH: Bikeshed:8 16:13:02 hmm, I didn't know you could do that in .des 16:13:13 what about with the other lua fields 16:13:13 <|amethyst> SamB: :if and :else wouldn't work otherwise 16:13:17 hmm 16:13:23 <|amethyst> :if foo 16:13:25 <|amethyst> MONS: 16:13:26 <|amethyst> :else 16:13:28 <|amethyst> MONS: 16:13:30 <|amethyst> :end 16:13:32 (on the other hand chrisoelmueller did go on a rampage over depth definitions but that at least was also fixing up some leftover garbage with DEPTH: Elf so it actually did something) 16:13:33 <|amethyst> that is probably fine 16:13:35 I think I didn't notice that construct 16:13:46 <|amethyst> but if it's all lua in the middle it seems kind of ugly compared to {{ }} 16:13:53 also I hate that it should be MONS:, MONS:, : if foo then SUBST: 1 = 2 16:14:03 anyway you should not write ":..." ":..." ":..." all in a row 16:14:59 <|amethyst> then there are borderline cases like grunt_ashenzari_visionary 16:15:09 <|amethyst> where each branch has one line of lua and one SUBVAULT: 16:15:27 (SUBVAULT should be a much more flexible script) 16:15:55 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:17:07 <|amethyst> tenofswords: what did you have in mind? 16:17:51 being able to provide information to the subvault instead of having to constantly use copies and tags 16:18:42 <|amethyst> hm 16:19:23 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:19:33 <|amethyst> if he ever has more time for crawl again, mumra might have some ideas there 16:20:40 if he ever has the time for crawl again he needs to have several more layouts wringed out of him first and foremost :P 16:21:08 <|amethyst> could associate a map of parameters with each vault_placement, access them with _G.param.blah, set them with SUBVAULT: foo(bar = 2, baz = snake) 16:21:44 <|amethyst> would have to decide what happens when they get placed without a subvault 16:22:07 <|amethyst> also, it's annoying that you can't specify "anywhere if it's a subvault" in DEPTH: 16:22:22 <|amethyst> e.g. the fruiting trees vaults 16:22:33 -!- puppyknuckled has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:22:44 <|amethyst> s/without/not as/ 16:23:04 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:23:37 -!- Weeksy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:23:51 <|amethyst> or maybe DEPTH: and SUBVAULT-DEPTH: should be separate things entirely 16:24:04 SDEPTH: 16:25:08 <|amethyst> (Not seriously but) I wish we had some vault metric where you subtracted a number based on how deep the vault is placed 16:25:18 <|amethyst> then we could call it "the depth charge" 16:26:43 03Grunt02 07[snake-enemies] * 0.14-a0-1769-g584c4d2: Badtiles for marksnagas and naga enchanters. 10(7 minutes ago, 5 files, 10+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=584c4d2326a2 16:26:43 03Grunt02 07[snake-enemies] * 0.14-a0-1770-g155f80a: Let most naga tiles show shields. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=155f80a56ccb 16:27:26 |amethyst: subtracted it from what, and what would the metric be for? 16:27:48 that tile looks like rambo 16:27:50 <|amethyst> SamB: doesn't matter, the pun is the whole point 16:27:55 grunt thanks for showing me which warriors have shields and which don't 16:28:11 dck, wait until that lands in trunk!! 16:28:30 sorry, I guess I have unreasonable expectations of puns 16:28:46 buppy, yeah, you have to have one of those bandanas for tough ranged enemies (cf. centaur warriors) <_< 16:28:46 hahaha, dang the marksnaga tile does look like rambo 16:29:31 <|amethyst> haha 16:30:26 <|amethyst> now we need a Rambo headband in the doll editor 16:30:49 <|amethyst> (also, a webtiles doll editor) 16:32:29 |amethyst, <3 16:32:48 naga enchanters, able to cast Infusion on their fists 16:32:52 accursed monster cheating 16:37:55 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:38:19 Now to figure out what to do for tiles for the other enemies (if anything in the short term). 16:42:02 cut off the raiju tile's feet and 16:51:47 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:52:41 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:55:59 -!- Nightbeer has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:50 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:59:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:00:34 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:03 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:07:31 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:07:35 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:41 -!- tksquared has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11:58 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12:08 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:22 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:26 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:01 -!- addatoo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22:04 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: ninja kapow] 17:22:18 -!- halv has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:22:57 -!- scummos| has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:31:36 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:36:32 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:39:08 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 17:41:03 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:33 -!- scummos^ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:48:21 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:49:06 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:51:53 03Grunt02 07[snake-enemies] * 0.14-a0-1771-g5acd0ca: Shock serpent tile. 10(27 minutes ago, 4 files, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5acd0caecc86 17:51:53 03Grunt02 07[snake-enemies] * 0.14-a0-1772-gc6c1fe8: Sapper snake tile. 10(47 seconds ago, 4 files, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6c1fe8c884b 17:54:53 going to beg bloax or ontoclasm for something better 17:54:59 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:56:51 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:56:59 %git snake-enemies 17:57:00 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-1772-gc6c1fe8: Sapper snake tile. 10(6 minutes ago, 4 files, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6c1fe8c884b 17:57:00 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:57:05 -!- dck has joined ##crawl-dev 17:57:06 are there subtractor snakes 17:57:29 not yet 18:00:07 |amethyst: 'wheals' is fine 18:05:03 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1765-g49ce880: Add wheals to CREDITS.txt 10(43 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=49ce88036c26 18:07:50 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 18:12:39 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:13:12 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14:39 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:16:25 -!- halv has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:23:31 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:24:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:26:40 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:32:46 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:34:10 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:39 -!- halv has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:36:59 -!- dck has quit [Client Quit] 18:42:15 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:42:55 -!- dck has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:41 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:50:54 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:50:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:08 -!- dck has joined ##crawl-dev 18:53:27 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Quit: Oops. My brain just hit a bad sector] 18:58:24 !tell |amethyst The vine stalker is ready to go in. Please do not commit update-4, only update-5. 18:58:26 Basil: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 18:58:37 vine stalker update, rather. 18:59:04 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:59:29 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:00:07 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:02:41 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:10:20 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07[vinestalker] * 0.14-a0-1729-g7c604cb: Add 'int/2 - 6' to vine stalker bite formula, and cap damage to 24. 10(78 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c604cb0eaec 19:10:20 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07[vinestalker] * 0.14-a0-1730-gbaf6562: Make vine stalker bite manadrain all creatures for 1dDamage. 10(73 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=baf6562dffd2 19:10:20 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07[vinestalker] * 0.14-a0-1731-g417ca8e: Reduce vine stalker Fighting aptitude by 1. 10(71 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=417ca8eccd20 19:10:20 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07[vinestalker] * 0.14-a0-1732-gabc1083: Delay regen II to xl6, and regen III to xl12. 10(64 minutes ago, 2 files, 10+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=abc108331640 19:11:30 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:14:04 03|amethyst02 07[vinestalker] * 0.14-a0-1733-g98443af: Unbreak compilation and fix formatting. 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=98443af2a6d9 19:14:24 !send |amethyst formatting fixes 19:14:24 Sending formatting fixes to |amethyst. 19:14:51 Experimental (vinestalker) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1733-g98443af 19:15:01 Dammit 19:15:05 sorry about that 19:15:18 !send Basil the elite marksnaga squad 19:15:19 Sending the elite marksnaga squad to Basil. 19:17:55 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:47 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:21 so many vs nerfs 19:26:48 Check the second commit. 19:27:43 I'm sure we can arrange for some Lightli nerfs if you feel left out. 19:28:13 -!- hayenne has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:29:00 Hopefully one less damage for Mo bite will help things a bit 19:29:10 gasp 19:29:10 one less for Mo, two less for Fi and Gl 19:29:12 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 19:29:18 what about be 19:29:28 -1.5 19:29:46 rip vsbe 19:29:52 if it's int based, wouldn't be lose the most? 19:29:54 sent to hell 19:30:04 Oh right, -2.5 then 19:30:12 oh god 19:30:17 should vs get natural int growth maybe then? 19:30:20 I'd have to actually push intelligence on a berserker 19:30:25 they're s/d right now aren't they 19:30:28 Right 19:30:33 I'll ask about that 19:30:53 uh ask who 19:30:57 dck 19:32:33 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:34:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:40:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 19:44:42 (maybe wha'ts the plan with dj anyways 19:44:50 wow that came out wrong 19:47:17 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:53:05 -!- pelotr0n is now known as pelotron 19:53:10 -!- Drew is now known as Guest21460 20:06:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:08:23 -!- Guest21460 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:12:31 -!- greensna1k is now known as greensnark 20:13:18 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13:54 greensnark: for a moment there I read greensnack. 20:14:13 (sorry for drawing your attention for something trivial <_<) 20:14:32 * greensnark drops a house on Grunt. 20:14:45 * Grunt dies! 20:14:55 * Grunt 's shoes are stolen! 20:15:12 * greensnark thanks Grunt for his tasteful ruby slippers. 20:18:05 Basil: why did you base it off of their int? 20:18:23 int is already such an overused stat 20:19:30 -!- ebarrett has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:19:56 To hopefully make it more useful for book backgrounds and less powerful for melee backgrounds early on 20:20:04 which is proving "somewhat difficult" 20:22:31 Basil: those are two goals that could be implemented orthogonally... are you more interested in making it better for casters, or worse for melee? 20:24:34 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:27 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 20:26:56 %git 73ea2081f6f0fded017db101bfde5d079cf4bf39 20:26:56 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-1759-g73ea208: Don't unmark Shadow Creature re-rolls as summoned (#7842) 10(27 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=73ea2081f6f0 20:27:20 ... don't we have special templates for dynamic-scoping that we could use here? 20:29:24 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:32:10 -!- Tophwells has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:38:54 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all!] 20:41:47 -!- Neuromancer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:45:51 <|amethyst> SamB: I think I'd rather add some flags to define_monster to say what you want to reset 20:46:08 <|amethyst> SamB: we had another issue recently from an overexuberant define_monster 20:46:22 <|amethyst> %git :/chimera 20:46:22 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-1015-g5880830: Fix chimera enchantments, including summon duration. 10(6 weeks ago, 1 file, 29+ 27-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=58808309177e 20:57:21 -!- Kromgart has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:00:08 'We were calling define_monster from ghost_demon::init_chimera' 21:00:14 well that's your problem right there 21:00:34 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:03 <|amethyst> Eronarn: same problem in 73ea208 21:02:28 <|amethyst> Eronarn: define_monster was being used to re-roll the monster (including spellbook) 21:04:16 |amethyst: that was actually just a jab at ghost_demon :) 21:07:10 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:13:36 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:14:21 ^version 21:14:22 trunk: 0.14-a0-1761-gdbd231b; 0.13: 0.13.1-22-g086cdba 21:15:12 %version 21:15:12 trunk: 0.14-a0-1761-gdbd231b; 0.13: 0.13.1-22-g086cdba; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 21:15:38 Graphical Glitch with Item Tiles by nikheizen 21:19:58 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:33:52 -!- sprort has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 21:34:01 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:39:51 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:47:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 21:47:57 -!- Neuromancer_Is_T has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:49:05 -!- neuwiz1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:51:18 -!- grasshopper has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:55:41 -!- neuwiz has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 21:58:31 -!- ebarrett has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:00:05 -!- tenofswords has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:46 -!- 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