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00:27:10 <badplayer> Wow Neil, thanks for fixing my vaults and putting them in trunk.
00:27:27 <|amethyst> welcome :)
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00:46:38 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1719-ga7e7698
00:49:02 <Medar> |amethyst: Do you think using Python 3 instead of 2 would cause any (deployment) issues?
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00:54:29 <|amethyst> Medar:  it should be possible to install python3 on CSZO and CAO at least; no idea about CLAN or RHF
00:54:59 <|amethyst> Medar:  and I guess tornado supports python 3 out of the box
00:55:09 <Medar> Yes
00:55:54 <|amethyst> one thing that would need to be tested is the case where webtiles runs chrooted
00:56:09 <Lantell> Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-1719-ga7e7698 (34)
00:56:26 <|amethyst> on the servers this requires python-minimal in the chroot because character codecs are loaded at runtime
00:56:37 <|amethyst> not sure what would change there with python 3
00:56:43 <Medar> Mm, ok.
00:57:30 <Medar> Anyway, not sure how useful the upgrade would be. Just wondering.
00:58:19 <Medar> We should probably upgrade to the latest Tornado though.
01:00:13 <Lightli> still wondering when my vaults will start making it in
01:00:48 <Lightli> (dpeg mentioned he might look into it before .14 launches, but who knows when that will be)
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02:33:37 <johnstein> I'm screwing around with setting up a webserver. I'm trying to set up a trunk version and a 0.13 version. however, I'm not setting up the config.py file properly
02:33:39 <johnstein> http://i.imgur.com/keTjs3D.png
02:34:04 <johnstein> apparently I don't understand well enough how server.py is using the games ordereddict
02:34:06 <johnstein> http://pastebin.com/JVAGbGhB
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02:40:56 <Medar> johnstein: You want those on different lines?
02:41:43 <Medar> johnstein: It changes line when the rc path is different. Or you can use separator option, that was just added, by setting it to "<br>"
02:42:18 <johnstein> sorry, yea
02:42:24 <johnstein> ah ok
02:42:33 <johnstein> didn't realize it was making that kind of check
02:42:50 <johnstein> I was just trying to get everything looking good before setting up the directory structures. sounds like that was a bad choice
02:43:10 <johnstein> I'll need different rc paths anyway
02:43:37 <johnstein> where would I put the "<br>"? in place of the "\n"?
02:44:43 <johnstein> also, ty for the help
02:45:08 <Medar> Nah, it's just an option for the game like name for example.
02:45:18 <Medar> But you won't need it, as long as the paths are different
02:47:41 <johnstein> yea. I found the dgagamelaunch page on the wiki and it's a ton more complicated than what I'm currently doing putzing around
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02:48:15 <johnstein> so I'll probably have a lot of tweaking and restructuring to do anyway
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03:24:29 <johnstein> before I get too far with this, is this stilll a good guide? https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles
03:24:56 <johnstein> looks like it's from oct, so it looks like it is
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03:32:12 <Medar> johnstein: I belive it's the only one. |amethyst is the man to ask for more information.
03:32:36 <Medar> But yeah, I assume it's up to date, just not complete.
03:32:39 <johnstein> thanks Medar
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08:45:26 <Cheibriados> Unknown jewelry is autopicked up despite it is disabled in autopickup menu <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7945> by Sandman25
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09:15:45 <Cheibriados> Zig 0/27 in overview screen after completing a zig <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7946> by Sandman25
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10:21:25 <Cheibriados> Nemelex swapped me to deep water while flying <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7947> by nubinia
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10:42:17 <SamB> |amethyst: (or anyone) what should I do with #7945, since Sandman says he posted it in error ...
10:42:20 <SamB> just delete it ?
10:44:25 <|amethyst> I usually close it with Resolution: no change required
10:46:28 <SamB> hmm, in this case, I think "unable to reproduce" is more accurate
10:47:48 * SamB wonders why "Note Added: 0024897" doesn't include a link to an anchor ...
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10:48:47 <|amethyst> "unable to reproduce" I think implies that someone still thinks it's a bug
10:49:55 <SamB> Well, I marked it as "closed" so ...
10:50:04 <SamB> probably it doesn't much matter
10:50:44 <Basil> |amethyst: I probably put up update-4.patch prematurely, what with it being new year's and all
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10:51:22 <Basil> So the branch should probably stay as is for one or two more days for a little more testing
10:52:03 <|amethyst> ok, let me know when you want it applied
10:52:27 <Basil> Thank you.
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11:24:29 <Sizzell> neil (L1 HuFi)  (D:1)
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12:15:34 <|amethyst> hm, rock worms from old saves are triggering a warning from the debug scan
12:15:45 <|amethyst> because you have a 'ghost' in a wall
12:16:50 <|amethyst> would there be a problem with giving ghosts HT_INCORPOREAL ?
12:17:00 <|amethyst> or they could be ignored by that check
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12:32:44 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1720-g50fbbe9: Let ghosts of axed monsters walk through walls. 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=50fbbe9abb61
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12:50:38 <WalkerBoh> rings of regen stack normally with vine stalkers?
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12:53:52 <Basil> Sure
12:54:14 <Basil> ??regen[2
12:54:14 <Sequell> regeneration[2/7]: The base regeneration rate is your maximum hitpoints / 3. If this number is over 20, then divide the result by two and add ten. For example, 100 max health results in a regen rate of 26. RR accumulates every turn and for every 100 RR you gain, you regenerate 1 hp. For 1 hp per turn, 540 health is needed. For 1 hp per 2 turns, 240.
12:54:23 <Basil> hm, wrong one
12:54:26 <Basil> s??regen[mut
12:54:26 <Sequell> regeneration[3/7]: A ring adds 40 to your rr, troll leather armour 30, player mutation 20 per level, and the status effect (spell) 100. What this means is that a single ring of regen or piece of troll leather armour effectively doubles your healing rate (or better) for most characters.
12:57:16 <Bloax> Nothing quite like regenerating two hitpoints every move.
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13:15:20 <G-Flex> Jiyva's power touches on your attributes.
13:15:20 <G-Flex> _You are being weighed down by all of your possessions.
13:15:24 <G-Flex> I thought this wasn't supposed to happen
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13:36:46 <elliptic> G-Flex: is this soon after joining jiyva, before stats have moved that many times?
13:36:54 <G-Flex> no
13:37:26 <elliptic> or soon after you changed equipment to alter stats by a fair amount?
13:37:49 <G-Flex> nah
13:38:27 <elliptic> the only case in which I know of this happening is when one of int/dex is reasonably far away from what jiyva is aiming for
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17:09:41 <WalkerBoh> Basil: after running some more VS into the ground, I think the regen nerf made a big difference early on
17:10:09 <WalkerBoh> they still feel a little like trolls, but the low hp is a significant difference obviously
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17:15:51 <Logicninja> So uh... my game is missing? :V
17:16:34 <Logicninja> Like, when I go to resume it, it just starts a new game instead.
17:16:46 <wheals> !lm Logicninja alive
17:16:47 <Sequell> 1. [2013-12-06 21:58:17] LogicNinja the Ruinous (L4 DjCj) killed Ijyb on turn 2218. (D:2)
17:17:11 <Logicninja> ??
17:17:15 <Logicninja> No it's this guy
17:17:16 <wheals> are you sure you're on the right version?
17:17:16 <Logicninja> http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/LogicNinja/LogicNinja.txt
17:17:30 <Logicninja> http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/LogicNinja/LogicNinja.where
17:17:42 <Logicninja> Yeah, I'm hitting "trunk"
17:17:52 <wheals> !locate Logicninja
17:17:52 <Sequell> Logicninja was last seen on CAO (LogicNinja, L4 DjCj of No God).
17:17:58 <wheals> !locateall Logicninja
17:17:59 <Sequell> LogicNinja: CAO 0.14-a, L4 DjCj of No God
17:18:08 <wheals> &whereis Logicninja
17:18:08 <Logicninja> I was deeeefinitely on CZO
17:18:09 <Sequell> %whereis LogicNinja
17:18:09 <Sizzell> LogicNinja the Ruinous (L1 DECj) quit on D:1 on 2014-01-01 after 0 turns.
17:18:32 <wheals> weird
17:18:43 <Logicninja> I'm very sure I didn't die or quit, too, I hit control-S
17:18:50 <wheals> !lg Logicninja -2
17:18:50 <Sequell> 7027/7028. LogicNinja the Devastator (L22 DECj), worshipper of Vehumet, quit the game on Lair:2 on 2014-01-01 22:26:11, with 429410 points after 69711 turns and 5:39:13.
17:18:53 <wheals> i have bad news
17:18:56 <Logicninja> whattttt.
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17:18:56 <wheals> very bad news
17:19:00 <Logicninja> Oh god
17:19:01 <Logicninja> D:
17:19:15 <geekosaur> !lm LogicNinja x=cv,src
17:19:16 <Logicninja> I definitely wouldn't have typed 'yes'
17:19:16 <Sequell> 15066. [2014-01-01 22:14:37] [cv=0.14-a;src=cszo] LogicNinja the Devastator (L22 DECj) killed Jorgrun on turn 66374. (Depths:3)
17:19:19 <Logicninja> :'(
17:19:28 <geekosaur> !lm LogicNinja alive x=cv,src
17:19:29 <Sequell> 1. [2013-12-06 21:58:17] [cv=0.14-a;src=cao] LogicNinja the Ruinous (L4 DjCj) killed Ijyb on turn 2218. (D:2)
17:19:38 <Logicninja> Yeah OK
17:19:42 <Logicninja> I guess I just gotta suck it up.
17:19:46 <wheals> rip
17:19:59 <Logicninja> RIP win-capable firestormer
17:20:03 <Logicninja> I hardly knew ye.
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17:40:02 <johnstein> oops wrong room
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17:59:39 <johnstein> I'm following the tutorial at: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles
17:59:56 <johnstein> I'm on step 10:   Publish the configs into the chroot (and the dgamelaunch config into /etc).
17:59:58 <johnstein> ~$ ./bin/dgl publish --confirm
18:00:25 <johnstein> is this the ./bin/dgl in dgamelaunch-config/bin? and should I run that as crawl-dev?
18:00:56 <|amethyst> yes, and I think you actually need to run it as root
18:01:03 <johnstein> ok
18:01:26 <|amethyst> (feel free to try without and update the instructions if it is necessary)
18:01:27 <johnstein> thanks
18:01:31 <johnstein> ok
18:01:33 <|amethyst> (without sudo I mean)
18:02:12 <johnstein> I'm barely qualified to be even trying this, so dunno if anything will even work at the end ;p
18:02:55 <|amethyst> step 13 is the tough one :)
18:02:59 <|amethyst> "I'm sure there's more..."
18:03:20 <johnstein> "** This script must be run as root to publish changes **"
18:03:30 <johnstein> I'll update the wiki
18:03:51 <johnstein> yea. I'm nervous on the 'here, make all these directories, but I'm sure there's a few that aren't listed'
18:03:55 <|amethyst> johnstein:  you can also change that to  /home/crawl-dev/dgamelaunch-config/bin/dgl
18:03:57 <johnstein> but figure things will yell at me
18:04:06 <johnstein> yes, I was going to do that too
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18:05:44 <johnstein> so does publishing do both of the things that step 10 is trying to do? i.e. publish the configs to the chroot AND put the dgamelaunch config into /etc?
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18:09:08 <johnstein> nevermind, after running as root it shows me exactly what was done. oops
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18:13:35 <kilobyte> |amethyst: does monster build for you?  It fails with:
18:13:36 <kilobyte> monster-main.cc: In function ‘void initialize_crawl()’:
18:13:36 <kilobyte> monster-main.cc:299: error: ‘init_properties’ was not declared in this scope
18:14:04 <|amethyst> Hm, when I rebuilt for that update I didn't update crawl; moment
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18:19:13 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=~ribbit s=place
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18:19:14 <Sequell> 12615 games for * (killer=~ribbit): 6691x D:4, 3263x D:5, 1348x D:6, 530x D:7, 407x D:3, 232x D:8, 80x D:9, 26x Temple, 9x Lair:1, 7x D:10, 6x Orc:1, 5x D:2, 4x Lair:2, 2x Sewer, 2x Orc:2, Lair:7, Orc:3, Lair:3
18:20:38 <|amethyst> badplayer:  you have a kill :)
18:24:32 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  thanks, fix pushed
18:24:36 <Cheibriados> Monster stats Crawl version: 0.14-a0-1720-g50fbbe9

18:24:36 <|amethyst> %??-version
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19:14:57 <|amethyst> hm, I broke special_room_morgue
19:15:16 <|amethyst> it uses a delayed_decay with a "/ nothing" alternative
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19:18:33 <|amethyst> and not in a way that makes it particular easy to SUBST around
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19:18:45 <|amethyst> s/lar/larly/
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19:34:34 <tenofswords> don't worry about it, the gimmick is dumb anyway
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19:53:18 <|amethyst> could just subst 1/3 of the floor with bodies and not place them on stairs or 1
19:53:32 <|amethyst> 1/3 to 1/2 or so to match the current weights
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20:54:16 <johnstein> How are the bots able to announce milestones from multiple servers?
20:54:45 <Grunt> Each server has its own bot.
20:54:52 <johnstein> Looking at the sizzell bot code it looks like all the milestone files are local
20:56:16 <|amethyst> what Grunt said
20:56:34 <Grunt> What |amethyst said.
20:56:40 <|amethyst> Sequell fetches milestones and logfiles from all of the servers for statistics purposes
20:57:48 <johnstein> So they are publicly available?
21:00:26 <|amethyst> yeah, via symlinks in the public_html directory
21:00:31 <|amethyst> see for example http://dobrazupa.org/meta/
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21:01:42 <johnstein> It's pretty cool how all that works
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22:05:23 <Bloaxor> Getting real tired of being stuck on liquids on braverobin.
22:07:47 <SamB> can't keep food down?
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22:08:23 <Bloaxor> Well getting killed unless you exploit the system and teleport is pretty dumb.
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22:09:50 <Basil> Lua error:
22:09:51 <Basil> /crawl-master/crawl-git-a7e7698612/data/dat/des/builder/rooms.des:296: Bad item name: 'never_decay  nothing'
22:10:18 <|amethyst> Basil:  yeah, going to try a fix
22:10:22 <Basil> Report it or no?
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22:10:43 <|amethyst> no need to report it
22:10:55 <Basil> Alright
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22:36:03 <G-Flex> jiyva just burdened me again
22:40:19 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1721-g84c87b2: Fix special_room_morgue for delayed_decay changes. 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 19+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=84c87b285634
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23:00:40 <Cheibriados> Description error in trunk version <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7948> by Greenwood
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23:03:40 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  #7948 looks related to the use-locale-by-default change?
23:04:20 <SamB> %bug 7948
23:04:20 <Cheibriados> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7948
23:04:44 * SamB wishes Chei would fetch bug metadata somehow ...
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23:04:54 <|amethyst> would be nice
23:05:29 <SamB> hmm, maybe doing the locale thing on Windows was a bad plan?
23:05:37 <|amethyst> on Windows XP anyway :)
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23:12:47 <SamB> darn it, I'm two minutes too late with my comment on the bug :-(
23:13:21 <SamB> also how is it 6 o'clock
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23:40:46 <buppy> |amethyst: I showed my dad boggle on cszo a few days ago and he's still talking about it
23:41:41 <|amethyst> soon we'll have him playing ATC :)
23:44:14 <buppy> heh, sure
23:44:38 <buppy> |amethyst: also, how would you feel about this patch: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ppv4Wx5g
23:45:43 <Lantell> Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-1721-g84c87b2 (34)
23:46:53 <|amethyst> I don't know if royal jellies need a buff
23:47:11 <SamB> when do we get webtiles boggle
23:47:20 <|amethyst> another food type perhaps, but potion of curing would probably need to be reduced in frequency to compensate
23:48:21 <wheals> royal jellies are very rare
23:48:38 <wheals> i probably see one or two in a game without that vault
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23:50:33 <buppy> you mean add another food type?
23:51:27 <SamB> buppy: odd, something stripped the final newline from that paste ...
23:52:19 <SamB> hmm, I guess it got lost when you pasted and pastebin.com was too dumb to add a new one ...
23:52:49 <SamB> I wonder if it does the same thing to C and C++ code?
23:53:04 <SamB> if so, it clearly wants daemons to fly out of your nose ...
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23:54:40 <buppy> The ynoxinol invokes UB. 5 ufertubi fly out of its nose!
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23:54:54 <buppy> SamB: yeah, it was pastebin
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