00:02:17 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1686-g0e827d1 (34) 00:02:32 ??manual 00:02:32 manual[1/4]: Manuals let you train a skill more efficiently. In 0.13+ manuals are active immediately when picked up. While you carry it you gain twice as many skill points in that skill as normal until the manual is used up. Dropping the manual deactivates it. The amount of skill points you gain is fixed; you cannot waste a manual's benefits. 00:02:44 ??crawl manual 00:02:44 I don't have a page labeled crawl_manual in my learndb. 00:02:49 ??manual[4] 00:02:49 manual[4/4]: Dev wiki users can edit the crawl manual at https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:manual:rest 00:03:32 should i post a patch defaulting pickup_mode to multi, or should i remove all code related to it and make multi the only available option 00:03:41 because seriously this thing is not working at all, ever 00:03:49 what thing is not working? 00:04:01 the interface of either single or auto:x 00:05:40 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:05:57 -!- RZX has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:35 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-1686-g0e827d1 (34) 00:06:54 Yeah, that default is simply bad 00:07:52 Wouldn't be surprised if some people still wanted to use single though 00:08:23 okay if i can manage to convince you of changing the default i won't try to take more blame 00:08:26 has cszo webtiles been rebuilt lately? 00:08:39 some people still want to play md though 00:09:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:13 ChrisOelmueller: I'm not familiar with pickup_modes. What's the issue? 00:10:19 bh: what aspect of it? 00:10:27 the current default does ... "something" that feels awkward at best 00:10:43 Most people leave it on, and just always press , or g twice 00:10:44 you mean the game or the webtiles server? 00:10:55 Medar: indeed 00:10:56 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:11:58 basically instead of showing a list of what's there and a convenient way of selecting what to pick up (that's what multi does), `single` prompts for every item, doesn't allow partial pickup, is hard to revert erroneous input with, and has a bloated command help line for each item as well 00:12:13 and why auto:x exists at all i can't even guess 00:12:30 but probably it's to get the worst of both worlds 00:13:46 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:13:58 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:58 curious whether it's in use on the servers at all (like, in one config file) 00:16:07 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1686-g0e827d1 (34) 00:16:28 we should really have a "grep rcs" tool on servers 00:17:13 You could just download them all too 00:18:34 !lg * won -log 00:18:34 15656. Antem, XL27 DjGl, T:205952: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Antem/morgue-Antem-20131230-054024.txt 00:19:29 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-1686-g0e827d1 (34) 00:20:08 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:11 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 00:21:09 -!- substitute_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:31 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 00:21:37 -!- substitute_ is now known as Tarragon 00:25:20 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:26:48 -!- Tarragon is now known as Basil 00:28:54 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:29:23 03SamB02 07* 0.14-a0-1687-g557a13a: manual: Fix typos introduced in the recent flurry of updates 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=557a13a0c8ab 00:29:47 hmm, we should probably come up with a way to add a warning to the top of that file that it's semi-automatically updated from the wikipage? 00:36:01 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1687-g557a13a 00:37:08 !vault party 00:37:10 Lines pasted to http://pastie.org/8586881 00:39:28 -!- nixor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:31 <|amethyst> SamB: apparently grepping all the rcs lags CSZO pretty noticeably :) 00:39:31 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:39:57 Heh. 00:40:16 <|amethyst> oh 00:40:23 <|amethyst> actually, I was grepping morgues, not rcs 00:40:28 <|amethyst> I guess rcs wouldn't be so bad 00:40:50 Yeah, that makes more sense. 00:45:08 yeah, you only have one rc per user per branch, right? 00:45:22 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 00:48:11 i'm renaming the option in the process, should i keep some compat stuff around with the old name? 00:48:29 doesn't make all too much sense because the default also changes, so the only old case that made sense to include now is meaningless 00:48:39 I wish we had a better way of accepting patches 00:48:46 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:48:55 How do we handle unknown options? 00:49:01 -!- kait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:05 not 00:49:07 :-) 00:49:09 you could include some compat code to say "rejoice; you don't need this anymore" or sth 00:49:27 They are silently ignored? 00:49:29 hundreds of now-dead options do not do that 00:49:56 hmm 00:50:35 Medar: i recently noticed that you have all the easy_eat stuff in still, that for instance has been gone 00:50:44 %git 9d29fcb 00:50:44 07MarvinPA02 * 0.13-a0-2723-g9d29fcb: Remove some obsolete food-related options 10(4 months ago, 5 files, 5+ 54-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d29fcb8fd9b 00:51:00 dsirus5 (L20 GrEE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 00:51:17 (when stealing your pickup function) 00:51:25 Ah. 00:51:48 oh dear 00:51:52 did I break things 00:52:13 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:52:16 !lm * crash -log 00:52:16 5923. dsirus5, XL20 GrEE, T:58958 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/dsirus5/crash-dsirus5-20131230-065039.txt 00:52:37 seems so-ish 00:52:59 you could comment out that line in tags.cc and rebuild ... 00:53:15 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:53:21 bh: or you could investigate why that feature is there ... 00:53:29 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:35 SamB: hm? 00:53:43 ^ ChrisOelmueller ? 00:53:49 bh: see that crash just now? 00:54:09 it's during load of Abyss:1 from a save 00:54:10 bah 00:54:29 i hope i didn't break anything 00:54:37 Isn't it during being banished? 00:54:57 yes, well, I mean the level is being loaded from the save 00:55:04 SamB: that log is simultaneously useful and less than useful 00:55:05 Right. 00:55:12 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 00:55:36 oh. there it is. DNGN_UNSEEN 00:55:47 The abyss gets filled with DNGN_UNSEEN when it recenters 00:56:02 I don't see how it could save mid-abyss-recenter 00:56:21 bh: if you'd prefer you could just disable that check_map_validity() for abyss or something ... 00:56:35 tags.cc:1099 it seems 00:56:37 nope. Masking over problems would just make things worse 00:57:13 |amethyst: can we get a copy of that save? 00:58:16 bh: oh, hmm, maybe it's during loading another level to use in generating abyss ... 00:58:35 sorry, I was assuming too much 00:59:06 bh: did you see the GDB stack trace there? 00:59:07 sure, but that shouldn't turn up on a regular map 00:59:30 -!- Ketziah has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:59:32 yeah. I saw it 01:00:35 |amethyst: is pickup_mode set to `auto` anywhere on cszo? 01:00:57 i'm claiming it's completely unused so that'd make me feel better 01:02:10 #11 0x000000000060390e in load_level (stair_taken=, 01:02:10 load_mode=, old_level=) at files.cc:1359 01:02:10 popped = false 01:02:10 make_changes = false 01:02:10 just_created_level = 01:02:10 level_name = "Abyss:1" 01:02:12 return_pos = {x = 0, y = 0} 01:02:14 dest_pos = {x = 40, y = 35} 01:02:35 bh: is it just me or is it trying to use itself 01:02:54 is such a thing even possible? 01:03:07 could it try? I don't see why not ... 01:03:44 it isn't 01:03:53 abyss.cc:1355 01:04:10 anyways if somebody sees obvious problems, http://bpaste.net/show/9kLnO0TFcbPFjFMshXxV/ 01:04:16 hmm 01:04:21 so it would seem ... 01:04:52 anyway the save should help, especially with kilobyte's improvements to determinism? 01:05:23 yeah. We should get our paws on it. If it still exists 01:06:04 ChrisOelmueller: Can't you use the macro for reading the value? 01:06:22 BOOL_OPTION that is 01:06:42 oh yeah that special handling is no longer necessary i guess 01:06:49 bh: wait how many ways do you have of using other levels in the abyss layouts ... 01:06:57 1? 01:06:59 oh. 01:07:00 two 01:07:03 Anyway, looks good to me. 01:07:28 yep there it is 01:07:33 abyss.cc:1047 01:07:37 yeah 01:09:05 updated as http://bpaste.net/show/yoeVBWNjMAuYkz6V9WYN/ 01:09:18 IMO, the init.txt commented out values should be default values. But that's unrelated to this. 01:09:37 they're incredibly inconsistent and i have stopped caring myself 01:09:42 SamB: _get_random_level() refuses to generate the abyss 01:09:43 bh: anyway, I just added that call to check_map_validity() a very short while ago 01:09:50 bh: yeah, I saw 01:09:50 the only init.txt that would help anybody is a blank one 01:09:55 and folks don't want to blank it 01:09:55 That's why they should be default, hard to be consistent otherwise 01:09:56 bh: so I'm mystified ... 01:10:24 yeah, most bool options are the inverse right now though iirc 01:10:42 Seems that way 01:11:06 yeah, a case can be made for special-casing the commented-out bool options to be inverted from the default 01:11:17 er, whoops I did not mean to use "case" twice there like that ... 01:11:35 SamB: maybe we could just abyss the abyss. 01:12:37 -!- NekoRex has quit [Quit: "All the vain and ignorant will look up and shout 'Save us!', and I'll look down and whisper... 'Nyo.'"] 01:18:34 -!- bh has quit [Quit: sleep] 01:20:16 -!- dagonfive has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:24:05 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:30:02 Remove `pickup_mode` option, introduce `pickup_menu` by chris 01:37:44 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:45:50 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 01:55:55 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:15:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:21:48 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 02:25:06 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:25:39 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:04 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:27:46 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:28:51 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:03 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:36:16 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 02:40:34 -!- axle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:48:37 -!- gvdm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:51:50 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 02:53:30 -!- conted_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:54:08 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:01:32 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:01:47 rubinko (L27 DrTm) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 03:02:33 rubinko (L27 DrTm) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 03:25:05 timbw (L14 MiMo) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 03:26:17 friendly giant spore refuses to follow commands by bastard 03:27:36 -!- Napkin_ is now known as Napkin 03:37:48 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 03:43:21 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:50:59 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:55:34 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:57:43 giant spore (03*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 1 | HP: 1 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 1 | 03plant, lev | Res: 06magic(4), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: plant. 03:57:43 %??giant spore 03:57:55 maybe it's just not smart enough to follow commands ... 03:58:07 oklob plant (09P) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 10 | HP: 38-70 | AC/EV: 10/0 | 03plant, !sil | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 08acid+++, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 560 | Sp: acid splash (3d7+7d5) | Sz: small | Int: plant. 03:58:07 %??oklob plant 03:58:09 -!- Hailley has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:58:29 well I've never known *those* to go where I asked them to 03:58:51 I've seen them burn through OOF on command, though. 03:59:13 wandering mushroom (07f) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 30-58 | AC/EV: 5/0 | Dam: 2013(confuse) | 03plant | Res: 06magic(32), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 313 | Sz: tiny | Int: plant. 03:59:13 %??wandering mushroom 03:59:24 and I know that those go where I tell them to 03:59:37 so long as they're not being watched by whatever strange rules they follow 04:04:55 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:05:04 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:06:13 -!- BobbyBigDIck has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:06:50 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:07:24 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:13:48 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:13:51 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:15:06 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:21:24 you can make oklobs attack specific targets? 04:25:33 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:33:03 -!- gvdm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:33:29 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:33:29 Yes. 04:34:45 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:40:20 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:41:53 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:45:28 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:59:43 -!- alefury has quit [] 05:01:50 -!- 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invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 06:34:26 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:35:07 -!- broquain1 is now known as broquaint 06:36:01 -!- xnavy_ has quit [Read error: No buffer space available] 06:47:02 -!- Lantell has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:49:17 -!- Flex has quit [] 06:50:32 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 06:54:41 hoegaarden (L6 OgFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 06:58:31 -!- gvdm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:08:29 -!- gvdm has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 07:14:33 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:59 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:26:31 -!- intr has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:39:18 -!- djanatyn has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 07:42:30 kal9871 (L12 HuFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 211: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:1) 07:45:07 -!- popx has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:45:22 -!- dagonfive1 has quit [Read error: 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Using "KFEAT: o = known shaft trap mimic" produces a normal trap. 08:34:29 Marbit: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 08:34:42 am I doing something wrong? 08:34:51 !messages 08:34:51 (1/2) Eronarn said (1w 5d 23h 47m 52s ago): I coded octopodes and lava orcs. The former took more than a year to get into Crawl, it's been more than 2 and the latter still isn't in. Don't expect race design to be fast! 08:35:49 !messages 08:35:50 (1/1) Eronarn said (1w 5d 23h 47m 1s ago): and no I'm no a biologist, my background is actually in political science :) 08:36:32 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 08:36:40 !messages 08:36:41 No messages for Marbit. 08:38:51 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:40:45 actually... can traps be mimics? 08:42:23 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:42:59 -!- Marbit_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:43:59 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:44:48 -!- MaxFrost has quit [*.net *.split] 08:44:48 -!- eith has quit [*.net *.split] 08:45:38 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:46:27 -!- bgiannan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:50:03 -!- Nakat0my is now known as Nakatomy 08:50:15 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 08:50:40 I don't think I've ever seen a trap mimic, so probably not 08:51:37 This trap mimic is a mimic! 08:51:51 mmm I suspected that. It is kind of a shame 08:53:08 -!- jeanjacques has quit [] 08:53:09 -!- gvdm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:53:38 this sounds like a vault that maybe would be better off not existing? 08:54:07 do you want to reveal the shaft, or the shaft being a mimic, and how is that possibly not an awful spoiler if the former 08:54:16 anyways the feature name is `shaft` (without trap) 08:54:24 so you might be able to generate it that way 08:55:47 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:57:01 "KFEAT: o = shaft mimic" just crashes the game 08:57:45 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 08:58:41 well that is a monster definition, not feature 08:59:06 unless i misunderstoof? 09:01:26 usually I define mimics as items or features and the add the "mimic" tag 09:01:44 anyway "MONS: o = shaft mimic" also crashes the game T_T 09:01:53 yeah i'm not sure to which degree this actually is supposed to work 09:04:57 anyway, it is rarely used 09:09:42 -!- Marbit_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:10:52 -!- shmup_ is now known as shmup 09:12:53 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:33 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:05 -!- Rjs has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:24:53 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:50 -!- Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:28:49 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:29:14 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:25 -!- Hailey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:32:35 -!- the_glow1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:35:33 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:36:06 silentsnack (L27 OpWz) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 09:37:35 -!- vansteen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:39:18 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:39:30 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:42:09 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:57 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:43:16 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:37 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:45:21 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1688-g49e8e1e: Don't exclude safe squares in lexackson_kobold_supper. 10(71 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=49e8e1e2f251 09:47:05 silentsnack (L27 OpWz) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 09:51:09 -!- varmin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:54:02 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:54:56 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:55:25 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:37 Crash on entering abyss from pan by silentsnack 09:56:24 <|amethys1> actually, looks like it happens on all banishment 10:12:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1689-g99b8db2: Don't crash on banishment (#7938) 10(64 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=99b8db21f8b5 10:12:27 <|amethys1> SamB: I had to add a condition on the check_map_validity you added. Abyss gen can visit other levels (to steal their map) before it has finished generating 10:13:32 <|amethys1> probably it needs a better fix, because if it crashes at just the right time the save could have the bad abyss 10:16:04 Nordon (L21 GrFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 10:16:37 <|amethys1> SamB, bh: The problem was when the excursion to visit the other level ended 10:16:47 <|amethys1> SamB, bh: it returned to the abyss, which wasn't yet finished 10:17:06 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:17:21 <|amethys1> SamB, bh: SamB added an assert that the level is finished; I disabled that for the abyss (generate_abyss calls it just a little later anyway) 10:19:40 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1689-g99b8db2 (34) 10:19:46 -!- Liams123 has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 10:19:46 <|amethys1> rebuilding cszo, clan, rhf, and cdo 10:19:55 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:41 Bastard (L16 OgBe) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 10:20:44 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1689-g99b8db2 (34) 10:21:35 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 10:25:34 -!- |amethys1 is now known as |amethyst 10:25:47 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: hm, was there a difference between multi and auto:2 ? 10:25:47 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:26:08 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 10:26:47 shouldn't, no 10:27:25 <|amethyst> I just realised I was using auto:2, probably because long ago I read the docs and assumed 'multi' would give a menu for even a single item 10:27:40 wow, nice 10:28:21 quick 10:28:38 figure out something to remove on the 31st to mess with people 10:30:24 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-1689-g99b8db2 (34) 10:31:50 (I don't use multi because I can't do 'ga' to pick up everything in a pile. I probably would be ok with multi once I reserve a single key near g or , for *[enter].) 10:32:24 ,,, 10:32:29 <|amethyst> Nivim: comma selects all 10:32:38 lacks the enter though 10:32:40 <|amethyst> which I think is what wheals is saying 10:32:40 yes, that's what i said 10:33:24 probably making three , confirm&close would be nice 10:33:30 Sphara (L27 TeCj) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 10:33:31 but i'm not gonna touch that :P 10:33:57 <|amethyst> Sphara: almost there.... 10:34:18 well it's not so necessary if multi is the default 10:34:52 hm? 10:36:11 oh i see, making , function as an enter in the multi screen 10:36:23 It currently does nothing at all. 10:36:24 iff everything is selected 10:36:30 Not even unselecting everything again. 10:36:38 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:40 <|amethyst> right, comma means "select all" 10:36:42 that , or numpad , 10:36:58 <|amethyst> so is idempotent 10:38:02 (I was thinking of the conversation in the context of the third in ,,, .) 10:38:17 that's why i suggested it 10:39:26 <|amethyst> I don't know, it seems a little error-prone if , has different behaviours depending on what is selected 10:39:50 <|amethyst> and how would it work with the drop menu? 10:40:03 <|amethyst> (since that has the drop filter) 10:40:14 hm. 10:40:18 Is there a macro-like thing that can work just as well? 10:41:32 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:41:53 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-1689-g99b8db2 (34) 10:42:27 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:16 <|amethyst> !tell Basil need a monster for vine stalkers, or at least something for show_player_species 10:46:17 |amethyst: OK, I'll let basil know. 10:47:13 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:54:25 New branch created: vinestalker (1 commit) 10:54:25 03Sage02 {|amethyst} 07[vinestalker] * 0.14-a0-1690-gac18f0c: Vine stalkers added. 10(12 days ago, 21 files, 234+ 25-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac18f0c50f6b 10:54:34 -!- OneEyedJack has quit [Client Quit] 10:54:51 wait, you guys are finally thinking about a replacement for dj? 10:55:20 are vine stalkers intended to be dj replacement? 10:55:24 <|amethyst> who said anything about replacing Dj? 10:55:33 they seem pretty interesting, though 10:55:47 <|amethyst> I'm adding them as an experimental branch on CSZO 10:56:26 -!- gvdm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:56:26 also, we should consider allowing more than 27 races imo 10:56:31 27 + 9 + 3! 10:56:33 <|amethyst> this is number 28 10:56:46 <|amethyst> oh, you meant "allowing" in a non-technical sense 10:57:35 i just assumed because they're a race playing around with hp/mp 10:58:33 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:58 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 11:08:38 Experimental (vinestalker) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1690-gac18f0c 11:09:05 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09:52 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1689-g99b8db2 (34) 11:11:07 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:11:08 <|amethyst> !tell Basil it's up on CSZO. Won't show up in webtiles until I restart the server 11:11:08 |amethyst: OK, I'll let basil know. 11:12:15 -!- ldlework has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:15:29 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:15:47 Webtiles server restarted. 11:17:00 -!- Rjs- is now known as Rjs 11:17:45 Piginabag (L17 DsMo) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 11:21:29 -!- CampinSam` is now known as CampinSam 11:21:53 -!- Hailey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:23:03 -!- gvdm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:23:38 <|amethyst> Medar: hm, trying to think of a good way to be able to introduce arbitrary line breaks in game_links.html 11:23:59 <|amethyst> Medar: right now it puts a line break before the first game for each rcfile path 11:24:39 <|amethyst> hm, I guess I could do it with a symlink 11:27:42 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:23 Webtiles server restarted. 11:31:16 <|amethyst> Medar: a symlink seems to work, though the extra (edit rc) link is probably confusing 11:32:23 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:33:15 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 11:34:15 -!- Kenran has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57:40 |amethyst: your adding a linebreak with a symlink??? 11:57:44 er. you're 11:58:19 <|amethyst> SamB: yeah, webserver/templates/game_links.html uses the rcfile path to determine where to add linebreaks between different games 11:58:56 |amethyst: ah! that totally explains the stack trace :-) 11:59:14 * SamB supposes he should have looked at some of the actual code ... 12:06:47 |amethyst: why is that called .html if it's a template 12:07:04 <|amethyst> SamB: dunno, ask edlothiol :) 12:11:58 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1690-g635c65f: Fix a crash with Xom swapping you with a monster. 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=635c65f0f6a8 12:12:12 <|amethyst> So I was going to apply the glaciate patch but am not sure what to do about Ice Storm 12:12:56 Glaciate doesn't seem that good to me 12:13:07 even a simple cone would work better 12:15:15 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1691-g0a5ed41: Don't let granite statues masquerade as actual monsters by recolouring. 10(22 hours ago, 4 files, 2+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a5ed41f8f01 12:15:15 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1692-gf5bcc7f: Get rid of a couple of pointless wall recolourings. 10(22 hours ago, 2 files, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5bcc7ff0dac 12:15:15 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1693-g55deb87: Brace removal. 10(22 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=55deb87d3562 12:16:03 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17:13 |amethyst: thanks for figuring out what was wrong with those abyss crashes 12:19:16 |amethyst: you might have mentioned the part about returning to abyss after examining the other levels being the issue here? 12:19:23 I mean, in the comment 12:19:54 -!- faustua has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:23:43 wait 12:23:49 what's this about stalkers 12:26:06 %bug 7897 12:26:06 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7897 12:26:42 -!- DracheReborn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:04 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:31 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:30:00 -!- Dr_Ke has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:30:26 Simple mimic trap by Marbit 12:30:29 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:32:19 so how about 12:33:03 // The Abyss needs to visit other levels during level gen, before 12:33:03 // all cells have been filled. We mustn't crash when it returns 12:33:03 // from these excursions, and generate_abyss will check_map_validity 12:33:03 // itself after the grid is fully populated. 12:34:10 |amethyst: and we just better hope that Tiles won't freak because the level's not finished yet and we're already trying to update the view ... 12:34:43 <|amethyst> SamB: maybe move the redraw inside the if too 12:35:25 <|amethyst> but then I guess we'd need to make sure the redraw happens somewhere 12:35:54 I guess so, yes 12:37:40 If we could move the _draw_tiles out of here, then the original motivation for putting the link_items() call here might disappear, but I personally would still want it reasonably close to the loading of the items just for sanity's sake ... 12:38:54 kilobyte: what are your opinions about invoking Lua from within tags.cc 12:39:06 (albeit indirectly) 12:40:34 ASSERT(range >= 0) in 'beam.cc' at line 652 failed. (beam 'puff of flame', source 'tengu conjurer', item 'none'; has range -1) by jeek 12:47:43 <|amethyst> hm... the only way I can see that crash happening is if you.current_vision is -1 12:49:47 !rng @role 12:49:48 The RNG chooses: Artificer. 12:49:50 doh 12:49:56 wrong channel 12:52:50 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I'm not sure what the point of the change in evilmike_minifort was 12:53:12 <|amethyst> kilobyte: it didn't actually change any recolouring, it just made the white stone in the middle into white rock instead 12:53:27 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:53:51 |amethyst: in the default config, the only way to tell stone from rock is that stone is always lightgrey. Except for that vault. 12:54:00 and Coc:7, IIRC. 12:54:49 although, I wonder what's the point of that white rectangle in that vault at all 12:56:25 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:58:23 <|amethyst> kilobyte: there are plenty of vaults that assign a tile to 'c' 12:59:04 -!- caracal has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:59:19 perhaps kilobyte does not play tiles 12:59:55 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:00:25 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:25 -!- inpho has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:01:13 -!- caracal has quit [Changing host] 13:01:34 assigning tiles is ok as long as stone tiles look like stone, and rock like rock 13:03:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:04:34 -!- Crehl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04:56 well 13:05:05 there are times that isn't true >.> 13:05:30 notably i think there's a spider end that uses as stone the same tile that's rock in shoals:5 13:06:02 i guess i should try drawing more stone tiles 13:06:17 imantor (L27 GrFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 673: invalid feature 0 at (2,2) (Abyss:1) 13:06:22 looking at rltiles/dngn/wall/, unobvious ones seem to be: church, cobalt_stone, crypt_metal, crystal_wall, (?)hell, lab-stone, marble, relief, stone_brick 13:06:45 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:06:58 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:08 Having different looking perma-rock would be nice, especially in labs. 13:07:13 -!- Zephryn has quit [Quit: My work is end \(^o^)/] 13:07:34 yeah 13:07:47 i want to make permarock tiles but can't think of a metaphor 13:08:11 Can't they just be a bit darker or something? 13:08:38 well, i'd rather have all permarock everywhere look the same 13:08:44 since there's very little of it 13:09:00 Ah, right. 13:09:09 it could be recolored of course, but the shape should be distinctive 13:10:09 ontoclasm: I can't think of any stratified rock tiles. 13:10:13 I quite wonder if we need that many levels of being hard to breach 13:10:18 especially for glass 13:10:44 <|amethyst> are you suggesting turning all stone into permarock? 13:10:54 <|amethyst> because we can't turn permarock into stone 13:11:37 stone glass -> permaglass sounds okay 13:11:46 stone -> rock or metal 13:11:46 stone glass is hardly used anywhere 13:12:46 if you're a LRD user, if you get to skill levels needed to breach stone, you'll be able to deal with metal too 13:12:47 kilobyte: replacing stone with metal would be great imo 13:13:05 that would definitely make tiling it easier xD 13:13:05 rock vs. stone makes absolutely no sense 13:13:32 <|amethyst> maybe if metal didn't have the special effects re electricity 13:14:02 <|amethyst> I don't think "this vault is hard to breach" should mean "you can't bizap lightning bolt" 13:14:07 -!- Azzkikr_ is now known as Azzkikr 13:14:07 there's also crystal 13:14:14 some stone could become that 13:14:29 ofc it has weird effects too 13:15:02 why not just keep destructible tiles and add a symbol/color for undestructible tiles 13:15:22 <|amethyst> Marbit: right now there are multiple levels of destructibility 13:15:37 <|amethyst> Marbit: rock can be dug, stone can be LRDed or shattered, permarock can be neither 13:15:57 Also glass/crystal. 13:16:00 metal is harder to lrd than stone right? 13:16:07 slightly 13:16:09 Which can be LRDed for much better explosions. 13:16:24 crystal can't be dug but can be lrd'ed with 0 spellpower 13:16:39 yeah... I mean keep the as they are. Just eliminate the "nothing can destroy this" and add a symbol or color for that 13:17:11 the name of "permarock" is especially bad 13:17:14 that way you can have metal with the symbol of undestructible 13:17:30 for added wrongness, in its glass version 13:17:35 you can't? 13:21:55 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:22:48 fr: slade 13:24:33 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 13:29:03 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:31:10 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:00 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:01 |amethyst: Haven't looked at game_links.html before, so don't really know about the
. Would adding an option for it in the game definition make sense? 13:33:19 |amethyst: Also those extra pipe signs at the end of lines are ugly 13:34:54 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:23 On the other hand, we could change how that works completely. Show only one versions options at once, and remember player's version choice. 13:36:58 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:37:38 <|amethyst> hm 13:39:02 Not sure where we would save that though. 13:41:08 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/permarock.png 13:41:09 ? 13:41:15 maybe too decorative 13:41:56 (the shape matches the current permaglass) 13:43:18 -!- dacendoran_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:43:33 i don't know how to draw "indestructible" :C 13:43:56 http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080709154525/diablo/images/9/92/RuneZod.gif 13:49:31 Pick a very small, even, geometric pattern, if you want to make it intuitive. 13:50:12 Triangles are strong, right? 13:50:15 yeah 13:50:46 (My chats in the wrong terminal to quickly look at links, if it matter.) 13:51:33 well i put a geometric pattern on it but it's more complex than it probably should be 13:51:39 maybe just like a diamond 13:51:44 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: fak you nigga, ty] 13:53:24 Maybe a Sierpisnky diamond. 13:54:07 dunno if i can pull that off in the amount of space i have 13:54:34 Now that I've seen permarock.png, I think you can. You only really need hints, not an entire infinity. 13:55:12 I think the problem will be avoiding the implication of any hourglass shapes. 13:56:50 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:58:23 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/permarock2.png ? 14:01:58 -!- Kenran_ has quit [Quit: Quitting] 14:07:16 Tedronai (L26 MiBe) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 702: Portal enter_abyss[54] didn't get generated. (Depths:4) 14:07:25 Tedronai (L26 MiBe) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 702: Portal enter_pandemonium[57] didn't get generated. (Depths:3) 14:07:29 Tedronai (L26 MiBe) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 702: Portal enter_pandemonium[57] didn't get generated. (Depths:3) 14:09:35 |amethyst: Should I push a patch to allow "separator" field in the config? Defaulting to "|" normally and to "
" if the rc path changed 14:12:16 Tedronai (L26 MiBe) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 702: Portal enter_pandemonium[57] didn't get generated. (Depths:3) 14:12:44 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:16 <|amethyst> Medar: hm, sounds reasonable, as long as there's no separator before the first entry 14:13:31 <|amethyst> !lm tedronai -log 14:13:31 785. Tedronai, XL26 MiBe, T:58985 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Tedronai/crash-Tedronai-20131230-201214.txt 14:14:10 |amethyst: They way I did it is that it defaults to either | or
, based on whether it the rc path changed 14:14:13 -y 14:14:28 <|amethyst> Medar: oh, right, so the first entry would be a
14:14:36 Right. 14:15:29 Actually, it's not whether the rc path changed, but whether the path has been used previously 14:15:32 That seems bad 14:15:38 i would be in favour of changing all stone into rock or metal also 14:15:52 ontoclasm: for extra pressure, the permarock tile ought to still look good for zot:5 (although admittedly the current look for zot:5 is still bad) 14:15:53 bolt bouncing seems edge-casey enough to not matter 14:16:06 tenofswords: well, i can do variations 14:16:09 * Medar didn't know/remember about lightning and metal 14:16:14 as long as the shape is strong enough 14:16:20 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/permarock3.png 14:16:24 how about that 14:16:28 sort of blatant i guess 14:16:58 Tedronai (L26 MiBe) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 702: Portal enter_pandemonium[57] didn't get generated. (Depths:3) 14:17:06 not bad 14:17:18 "rock" vs "stone" is really weird nomenclature generally 14:17:34 i guess i could actually use all of these 14:17:45 and have the outline be the key feature 14:17:49 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 14:17:57 as it is for glass 14:18:13 why not remove the metal weirdness 14:18:19 ontoclasm: I feel like I can't avoid expressing this wrong, but; when you think of a geometric pattern, don't you think of something linked together, so that each part is neccessary based on it's neighbor/itself? -- In details: whichever pattern you use, cover as much of the tile as you think you can get away with, then give edge highlight to what you want in focus in focus; also, it's not symmetrical.-- 14:18:26 Apologies for Cheiness. 14:18:51 03Medar02 07* 0.14-a0-1694-g5c7722d: Allow specifying a separator for WebTiles game links 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c7722d1550d 14:18:55 s/in focus// 14:19:05 mm 14:19:18 Yes, you skipped ahead to a plain symbol. 14:19:36 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 14:19:52 -!- DracheReborn has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:04 I would miss stone heavily but if it's going to happen I will convert vaults myself 14:20:13 (I got distracted reading an engineering paper on bridge building.) 14:20:17 xD 14:23:02 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:24:04 <|amethyst> SamB: actually, I think the redraw isn't an issue, because it just sets flags 14:24:14 <|amethyst> SamB: it doesn't actually do the redraw there 14:25:36 <|amethyst> SamB: but printing things might be an issue still 14:26:22 <|amethyst> So I know why Tedronai is crashing and am about to push a fix for that, but why doesn't he have a Pan portal? 14:27:00 <|amethyst> oh 14:27:05 <|amethyst> he's ascending 14:28:07 -!- Crehl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:29:31 by the way, which is the symbol for the iron grate and mangoove? I'm testing with some vaults 14:29:52 iron grate is a # 14:30:02 mangroves are the same as trees 14:30:10 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:30:11 (a club sign or a 7 depending) 14:30:16 if you mean for mapspec, both have to be defined in KFEAT 14:30:18 <|amethyst> I think Marbit means in maps 14:30:20 oh 14:30:22 <|amethyst> what tenofswords said 14:30:45 probably he means in .des? 14:31:06 don't listen to me i'm dumb 14:31:15 (if there's something I'd rather make a concentrated effort to purge, it'd be glass vs. grates) 14:34:04 compromised dungeon generation in depths branch by Tedronai 14:34:04 (Aren't grates specifically something that can be smitten through [and disinted] while glass specifically does not allow that?) 14:35:28 smitten/summoned through 14:35:41 /blinked through 14:36:44 oh right, I even have a vault abusing that 14:37:08 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1695-g3faffb6: Don't check for missing portals while ascending (#7941) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3faffb6e9bfe 14:37:08 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1696-g06d0eec: Add missing branch entries before checking validity. 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 54+ 53-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=06d0eecfd7c8 14:37:11 there are a bunch of excessive grates uses though, I ought to do some conversion 14:37:27 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:37:56 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1694-g5c7722d (34) 14:38:10 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1696-g06d0eec (34) 14:39:04 <|amethyst> hrm 14:39:34 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1696-g06d0eec (34) 14:40:30 yep, I ment in the des files 14:41:16 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1696-g06d0eec (34) 14:41:22 (there are also habits to use in kfeat lines the same glyphs of their immediate cousins, but surely nobody gets confused about that) 14:43:15 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:35 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:47:50 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-1696-g06d0eec (34) 14:48:21 <|amethyst> Marbit: I just realised, the update scripts don't overwrite game_links.html 14:48:24 <|amethyst> doh 14:48:29 <|amethyst> Medar: I just realised, the update scripts don't overwrite game_links.html 14:48:42 <|amethyst> Medar: I'll fix up CSZO's and CAO's to do so 14:49:32 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50:21 Not a big deal for this change anyway 14:51:01 -!- jeanjacques has quit [] 14:53:37 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:54:51 ok, how do i have git rewind back to given version (0.11 in this case) 14:55:03