00:00:58 <Sizzell> Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13.1-19-g4b9377e
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00:13:55 <Gretell> Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13.1-19-g4b9377e (34)
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00:57:44 <Lantell> Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13.1-19-g4b9377e
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01:13:35 <bh> kilobyte: want to get gerrit running? :)
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01:21:34 <kilobyte> bh: I don't know it, so I guess I'm not the best person to deploy.
01:22:12 <SamB> do any of us know it?
01:23:05 <bh> I could figure it out, but I'm the worst sysadmin
01:25:14 <kilobyte> it appears to be in Java, which is another reason it would be hard for me (I don't know Java nor have ever used any server-side Java software)
01:25:46 <kilobyte> and Java is... weird
01:26:03 <SamB> that's for sure
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01:51:31 <Zaba> looking at the docs, it seems pretty easy to deploy
01:53:08 <bh> Zaba: deploying it isn't what concerns me. Keeping it alive and running and iteroperating with gitorious...
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01:56:02 <Zaba> they vendor a servlet container so one doesn't have to interact with much java
01:56:38 <Zaba> bh, yes, especially the latter would be interesting
01:57:13 <Zaba> would be easiest if gitorious hosted a code review tool...
01:57:27 <bh> Zaba: the use case I see is -- external contributor posts a patch, one of us reviews it, approves and then the whole thing gets pushed
01:57:37 <SamB> Zaba: no it wouldn't, because it would be crap!
01:57:55 <bh> http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/code-reviews-with-gerrit-and-gitorious/
01:58:01 <Zaba> SamB, okay, good point
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01:58:32 <SamB> I can't even use their view thing because I accidently click on lines and that does some wierd-ass highlighting thing ...
01:58:48 <Zaba> that said, I don't like gerrit much either, at least the search is weird
01:59:14 <Zaba> and it loves opening a lot of browser windows
01:59:34 <SamB> ewww
02:00:21 <Zaba> (when you ask it to show a diff for all files, it opens a new window/tab for each...)
02:01:24 <Zaba> well, at least the deployments I've interacted with exhibited all that.  Maybe new versions/different configuration can make it better.
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03:10:44 <Cedor> somebody around here?
03:16:22 * galehar waves at Cedor
03:16:27 <Cedor> :)
03:16:48 <Cedor> have 5 min?
03:16:51 <galehar> yes
03:17:01 <Cedor> nice :)
03:17:22 <Cedor> first, I avoided to use recursion (I know it's dangerous)
03:17:30 <Cedor> and secondly, I need advice
03:17:38 <Cedor> for the stealth bar definition
03:18:44 <Cedor> actualy, stealth adjectives aren't linear, so, should force them to be linear, or, should I design the stealth bar to reflect the adjetives?
03:19:40 <Cedor> the true question is : does the adjectives eflect reality, or were there designed arbitrarly?
03:19:51 <Cedor> (woot, bad english today)
03:20:48 <galehar> hmm not sure
03:21:08 <galehar> maybe it would be more appropriate to use the log-like bar like spellpower
03:21:28 <Cedor> ok
03:21:32 <Cedor> I thought so
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03:26:34 <galehar> I suggest you keep the MR and stealth patches separated as the former is simpler and less controversial so more likely to get committed quickly
03:26:42 <Cedor> yep
03:27:22 <Cedor> the discussion needed for the MR bar is about the adjectives list
03:27:45 <Cedor> (and maybe the position)
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05:20:24 <BlasterBlade> Hi. Fedora 20 is out with Lua 5.2. Is git version of crawl supporting it?
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05:32:22 <Roarke> Is there any way that we, as just players who don't contribute to the development process, can discuss the change of sword names?
05:32:47 <Roarke> With the devs, I mean.
05:32:56 <Roarke> Not just fruitless complaining on ##crawl.
05:33:45 <Roarke> Apparently the commit was pushed by kilobyte, right?
05:34:03 <Roarke> It got passed, so I assume the rest of the devs didn't have a big problem with it?
05:34:18 <Roarke> It's mostly a cosmetic change, but I don't see the reason it should pass unchallenged.
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07:01:53 <Henzell> djanatyn (L15 DECj) ASSERT(!at_branch_bottom()) in 'stairs.cc' at line 560 failed. (D:16)
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07:40:24 <galehar> !seen kilobyte
07:40:24 <Sequell> I last saw kilobyte at Thu Dec 19 07:25:46 2013 UTC (6h 14m 38s ago) saying 'and Java is... weird' on ##crawl-dev.
07:42:22 <galehar> !tell kilobyte in an old c-r-d message about translation, you said that we can't use gettext inside crawl. Why? ChrisOelmueller has done it and it seems to work fine.
07:42:31 <Cheibriados> formicid poison vulnerability isn't suppressed by form change <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7886> by nagdon
07:42:31 <Sequell> galehar: OK, I'll let kilobyte know.
07:42:59 <Bloax> .
07:47:35 <Cheibriados> two minor bugs in mons_has_incapacitating_ranged_attack() <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7887> by nagdon
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08:07:50 <Cheibriados> temporary poison immunities handled as permanent in player_res_poison(...) <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7888> by nagdon
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08:43:19 <Cheibriados> fake language of !!!!! <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7889> by pubby
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09:13:54 <wheals> bwahahaha
09:14:28 <wheals> !lm . crash -log
09:14:28 <Sequell> 1. wheals, XL1 HEAM, T:309 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/wheals/crash-wheals-20120724-151130.txt
09:14:36 <wheals> uh
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09:15:23 <Sizzell> wheals (L27 DDBe) ASSERT((int)levels_seen <= brdepth[branch]) in 'place-info.cc' at line 34 failed. (D:5)
09:15:26 <wheals> well fuck
09:16:01 <Sizzell> wheals (L27 DDBe) ASSERT((int)levels_seen <= brdepth[branch]) in 'place-info.cc' at line 34 failed. (D:5)
09:17:14 <|amethyst> !lm wheals crash -2 -log
09:17:14 <Sequell> 3. wheals, XL27 DDBe, T:80247 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/wheals/crash-wheals-20131219-151522.txt
09:17:37 <wheals> |amethyst: some kind of zigrelated bug
09:17:46 <wheals> |amethyst: i entered on d:4 and emerged on depths:3
09:18:02 <wheals> then i autotravelled to d:4 and can't get back down
09:18:27 <|amethyst> wheals:  can you do a save backup and file on mantis?
09:18:40 <|amethyst> I don't have time to look at it just now
09:18:53 <|amethyst> also bug kilobyte if you see him
09:19:04 <|amethyst> since he's the one that's been messing with portal vaults :)
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09:34:34 <Cheibriados> Unable to go down after exiting Zig <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7890> by wheals
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11:18:35 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1566-g2ba124d (34)
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11:57:59 <Cheibriados> Claymore tiles <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7891> by pubby
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12:18:20 <wheals> !lm opoek zig.enter
12:18:20 <Sequell> 1. [2013-12-19 15:35:56] opoek the Executioner (L24 GrFi) entered a Ziggurat on turn 68275. (Depths:2)
12:18:32 <wheals> !lm opoek zig.enter alive
12:18:33 <Sequell> 1. [2013-12-19 15:35:56] opoek the Executioner (L24 GrFi) entered a Ziggurat on turn 68275. (Depths:2)
12:18:40 <wheals> !lm opoek zig.exit
12:18:40 <Sequell> 1. [2013-12-19 15:52:58] opoek the Executioner (L25 GrFi) left a Ziggurat at level 10 on turn 69243. (Zig:10)
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13:42:43 <Sizzell> enigmoo (L15 DgCj) ASSERT(!at_branch_bottom()) in 'stairs.cc' at line 559 failed. (D:16)
13:43:10 <wheals> !lm enigmoo crash -log
13:43:11 <Sequell> 30. enigmoo, XL15 DgCj, T:39687 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/enigmoo/crash-enigmoo-20131219-194241.txt
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14:14:27 <Cheibriados> Interlevel travel/Runed Doors <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7892> by tempest
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14:49:09 <SamB> %git
14:49:10 <Cheibriados> 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1566-g2ba124d: Axe two triple sword sightings. 10(17 hours ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ba124db8f5c
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15:39:46 <Bloaxor> ...
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15:40:19 <Bloaxor> what about making the hex failure message only say one thing based on how likely you are to affect it
15:40:51 <Bloaxor> instead of all this "struggles to resist" "easily resists" "easily resists" "resists" silliness
15:42:33 * SamB ponders "you roll a natural 20!"
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15:52:05 <Bloaxor> !seen ontoclasm
15:52:05 <Sequell> I last saw ontoclasm at Thu Dec 19 02:50:43 2013 UTC (19h 1m 22s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 252 seconds'.
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16:15:31 <evilmike> why is weapon delay still shown as a percentage on the weapon info screen? 160% doesn't make much sense when on the UI, that amount of time is shown as "1.6"
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16:24:19 <galehar> indeed
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16:25:13 <galehar> especially since it can be more precise (there's randomized rounding), but the rounded percentage implies the opposite
16:32:03 <Lightli> ?
16:32:42 <ontoclasm1> Bloaxor: what's up
16:32:49 <Bloaxor> hey
16:33:19 <Bloaxor> I was interested in CPA business.
16:35:01 <Lightli> CPA?
16:35:38 <Bloaxor> ??cpa
16:35:38 <Sequell> crystal plate armour[1/1]: 14AC, 24ER, 120aum.
16:35:41 <SamB> you want to become a certified public attourney?
16:35:52 <SamB> or accountant even
16:36:08 <Bloaxor> no i am just OP
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16:39:06 <Bloaxor> But yeah how about https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/cpa.png
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16:49:10 <galehar> do the shoulders really need to be that huge?
16:50:29 <Bloaxor> http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob_plain;f=crawl-ref/source/rltiles/item/armour/crystal_plate.png;h=bb07b539e69eac52afef8ca61c039f5483f71d3b;hb=HEAD
16:50:33 <Bloaxor> they seem pretty big to me
16:51:14 <Whistling_Bread> They look kinda like wings
16:51:25 <galehar> well, they don't have to stay that way
16:51:43 <galehar> I'm not a fan of big shoulder armours
16:52:03 <Bloaxor> there's about no other ways to convey mass in such a small space
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16:53:36 <galehar> troll leather also has huge shoulders btw
16:55:23 <geekosaur> the shoulders have always seemed exaggerated in armour tiles to me
16:55:54 <Sizzell> SGrunt (L13 DgWn) ASSERT(!at_branch_bottom()) in 'stairs.cc' at line 559 failed. (Orc:4)
16:56:04 <Grunt> kilobyte: *curse curse curse*
16:56:34 <Grunt> !lm . crash -log
16:56:35 <Sequell> 9. SGrunt, XL13 DgWn, T:39987 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/SGrunt/crash-SGrunt-20131219-225551.txt
16:57:03 <geekosaur> The Grunt evaporates and reforms as a curse Grunt!
16:57:06 <wheals> Grunt: so far that crash has happened only for demigods
16:57:10 <wheals> coincidence???
16:57:14 <wheals> (yes)
16:57:38 <Grunt> !lm * crash milestone~~at_branch_bottom s=char
16:57:39 <Sequell> 6 milestones for * (crash milestone~~at_branch_bottom): DECj, DgCj, DgWn, NaFi, OgWr, VpWn
16:57:45 <Grunt> wheals: very much so
16:58:20 <wheals> i need to unblock the rest of the bots on this channel >.>
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17:21:49 <Cheibriados> Fedhas' Growth ability has faulty targeting near shallow water <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7893> by n1000
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18:50:41 <Sizzell> NekoRex (L17 DECj) ASSERT(!at_branch_bottom()) in 'stairs.cc' at line 559 failed. (Snake:5)
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18:53:21 <NekoRex> NekoRex (L17 DECj) ASSERT(!at_branch_bottom()) in 'stairs.cc' at line 559 failed. (Snake:5)
18:54:18 <NekoRex> also when my game save came back it has a couple nagas retreating for some reason
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19:04:12 <NekoRex> hmm, it didn't crash this time
19:05:18 <SamB> NekoRex: you didn't actually need to paste that; Sizzell already told us ;-P
19:05:38 <SamB> you could have said "hmm, crashed just now"
19:06:24 <kilobyte> just found the cause
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19:07:34 <kilobyte> on a branch bottom, in-branch stairs and escape hatches first get a roll for mimic conversion, and only then get removed
19:08:18 <kilobyte> after some simplification I've recently done, this (correctly) triggers this assert
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19:12:02 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1567-g94360e1: Drop a hard-coded number and a bizarre comment. 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=94360e17383a
19:12:02 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1568-g7d816dc: Disable an assert. 10(36 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d816dcee34c
19:12:02 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1569-gf2df609: Don't turn invalid in-branch stairs into mimics. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2df6096dfa2
19:12:04 <kilobyte> some other Ziggurat breakage looks harder to debug, I made it not crash for now
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19:13:18 <SamB> kilobyte: did you look at wheals' problem too ?
19:14:04 <wheals> the second commit was assert the one that crashed my game
19:14:15 <kilobyte> wheals' game can continue
19:14:39 <wheals> yay
19:14:50 <SamB> wait, don't you need to rebuild first?
19:14:55 <kilobyte> of course
19:14:56 <wheals> oh right
19:14:59 <wheals> derp
19:15:22 <wheals> time to wait
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19:16:36 <Sizzell> Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1569-gf2df609 (34)
19:16:47 <SamB> wasn't too long a wait, was it?
19:17:33 <kilobyte> on cßo, no.  On clan, on the other hand...
19:18:19 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1569-gf2df609 (34)
19:18:32 <wheals> There is an entrance to a sewer on this level. Hurry and find it before the
19:18:32 <wheals> portal rusts away!
19:18:41 <wheals> um
19:18:59 <wheals> so i guess my d:5 couldn't be restored
19:19:11 <wheals> !lm * br.enter=sewer max=xl
19:19:13 <Sequell> 102740. [2011-08-17 16:25:45] MirrMurr the Backstabber (L18 SpEn) entered a Sewer on turn 46211. (D:3)
19:21:18 <kilobyte> so you got a free extra sewer, enjoy!
19:21:35 <kilobyte> It'll give you extra 0.01% xp of what you have :p
19:23:02 <wheals> the sewer exit portals are grey, but that's such a minor and totally inaccessiblt bug it's not very worth reporting :P
19:24:14 <wheals> i don't have the record for number of sewers entered in one game, though
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19:29:12 <Grunt> !lm * br.enter=sewer s=gid
19:29:21 <Sequell> 102745 milestones for * (br.enter=sewer): 4x syllogism:cdo:20100408101052S, 2x Kyrris:cdo:20100328025838S, Blackmore:cao:20090712083704S, rozman:cszo:20130623205139S, grrr:cdo:20110909195209S, Eplochichos:cdo:20111125160121S, demiskeleton:cszo:20130423014504S, Tenaya:cao:20110717224149S, phlegeton:cdo:20130212194606S, AnAngryHobo:cdo:20130216071503S, TheLongOne:cdo:20121003010235S, mathso:clan:201...
19:29:35 <kilobyte> wheals: that's intentional, but makes no sense
19:29:40 <Grunt> !lg syllogism gid=syllogism:cdo:20100408101052S -log
19:29:40 <Sequell> 1. syllogism, XL27 HEIE, T:128528: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.6/syllogism/morgue-syllogism-20100509-174552.txt
19:29:57 <kilobyte> I repaired something that prevented portal colours from showing
19:30:26 <kilobyte> Tar is darkgrey, too
19:31:06 <SamB> kilobyte: you mean you fixed a code bug exposing a design bug?
19:31:10 <Grunt> kilobyte: btw, I've noticed that I can't use < and > on the map to highlight portal exits any longer.
19:31:20 <SamB> oouch
19:34:36 <wheals> kilobyte: thanks for fixing, now i can splat in zot :)
19:35:29 <Grunt> !send wheals hellfire storms
19:35:29 <Sequell> Sending hellfire storms to wheals.
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19:39:02 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1570-g671a4b6: Don't use darkgrey for Tar entrance and Sewer exit. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=671a4b6362e1
19:40:29 <SamB> there, design bug fixed
19:41:19 <Lightli> any further progress on the "finite pan" or "make banishment less painful" ideas?
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21:22:23 <Gretell> Eronarn (L16 OgDK)  (D:15)
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21:39:42 * SamB wonders about some sort of warning about bashing enemies barehanded when you neither have UC training nor any skill to speak of in it ...
21:41:35 <wheals> aren't those the same thing
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22:05:15 <SamB> wheals: I mean when you neither have significant skill *now*, nor have you directed that skill points be allocated to it ...
22:05:39 <SamB> anyway, ChrisOelmueller likes this idea
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22:11:31 <simmarine> ??can i inscribe my fists
22:11:32 <Sequell> can i inscribe my fists[1/1]: no
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22:12:53 <SamB> What's that line in Improbable Island?
22:13:11 <SamB> "You strap your fists to your back"?
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22:35:34 <Adeon> ??4chan
22:35:34 <Sequell> 4chan[1/1]: Anonymous 03/26/12(Mon)13:18 No.2506850 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup is the only Roguelike worth a damn, fuck off and die.
22:35:58 <SamB> is that really all learndb has to say about 4chan?
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22:39:20 <wheals> ??4chin
22:39:20 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled 4chin in my learndb.
22:39:21 <wheals> ??4chins
22:39:21 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled 4chins in my learndb.
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22:40:04 <reaverb> Minor question about the handle_time() cleanup I'm working on: Is it important for magic contamination or Lab/Abyss maprot to be handled in arena mode? I'm assuming making corpses rot is important.
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23:05:34 <bh> have we got a code review tool yet? :)
23:06:37 <SamB> reaverb: maprot seems totally irrelevant since you can see everything ?
23:07:03 <reaverb> SamB: Ok, so is magic contamination important for some arcane reason (I'm leaning toward no).
23:07:20 <SamB> is that contamination of the player?
23:07:27 <reaverb> SamB: Yes
23:07:38 <SamB> in which case I'd assume not, since the player is kind of a dummy in arena no?
23:08:11 <bh> ??footv
23:08:11 <Sequell> footv[1/5]: telnet termcast.develz.org (and then select the letter for FooTV), or http://termcast.develz.org. Do not use SSH. Shows games requested using !tv. Request games by adding -tv to !lg, !lm or !hs, cancel games by adding -tv:cancel to the same command-line, clear playlist with !lg * -tv:nuke
23:08:14 <reaverb> SamB:  That's what I thought to. And of course corpses do need to rot in arena mode, correct?
23:08:39 <SamB> no good reason to have them not rot
23:09:12 <SamB> not sure it often makes a *difference*, but ...
23:09:29 <reaverb> SamB:  Thank you very much. Last question: do you know anywhere I can get an overview on how how Crawl marshalling/unmarshalling works.
23:09:31 <reaverb> ?
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23:10:55 <SamB> hm
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23:14:42 <reaverb> SamB: There's no rush since I haven't completely finalized what needs to be saved.
23:15:00 <SamB> well there's ../docs/develop/save_compatibility.txt
23:15:09 <SamB> and then there's tags.cc ...
23:15:16 <SamB> don't really see any overview
23:15:45 <reaverb> I checked tags.cc recently. I looked at the .txt a few months ago and am looking it up again now.
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23:22:52 <reaverb> SamB: Save compatability.txt discusses how to add a variable to the player structure, which is slightly helpful but I don't feel is enough. I need to save a particular variable in a single instance of each of the derived classes of an abstract base class. Currently it's special cased as a bunch of static members of a function, but I'm hoping to make a priority queue made of pointers to the derived class instances.
23:23:23 <SamB> okay, you lost me
23:23:34 * SamB wonders if kilobyte understands that ...
23:24:43 <bh> reaverb: what's this kitchen sink you're trying to serialize?
23:24:54 <reaverb> SamB: Part of it is that I haven't settled everything yet. I think I'll wait until I've finished everything except marshalling before I bring this up again.
23:25:32 <reaverb> bh: I'm probably making it sound bigger than it is. I have a class, with derived classes.
23:25:42 <bh> having structured save files would prevent so much pain.
23:25:44 <reaverb> Each of those derived classes has an int I need to marshall.
23:25:53 <bh> just one int?
23:26:22 <reaverb> bh: Yes, just one per derived class.
23:26:24 <bh> "a priority queue made of pointers to the derived class instances" sounds like you're overthinking something
23:26:43 <reaverb> bh: I probably am.
23:27:29 <reaverb> bh: I'm trying to make handle_time() effects occur at actually random times, so you don't get god wrath and hell effects on the same turn all the time.
23:28:19 <Grunt> That's... quite an undertaking.
23:29:13 <reaverb> Grunt: It's already mostly done. I have it working, I just need to be able to get over this marshalling issue, and maybe simplify the code a little. (the priority queue).
23:29:27 <Grunt> O_O
23:30:04 <bh> reaverb: do you want some kind of serializable event queue?
23:30:59 <reaverb> bh: Yes, that sounds like it might be best.
23:31:45 <bh> ok. So this sounds definitely worthwhile
23:31:47 <|amethyst> Are you implementing your own priority queue?
23:31:55 <bh> ^ if you're doing that, don't :)
23:31:59 <|amethyst> because C++ has a priority_queue template
23:32:11 <reaverb> |amethyst: I haven't even gotten to that, but I was planning on using the standard library one.
23:32:20 <|amethyst> oh, good
23:33:50 <bh> |amethyst: I haven't got the motivation to do it, but I'd love it if we had structured saves. Like key-value pairs
23:34:07 <bh> That way when things broke, we'd know about it rather than getting funny save corruptions
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23:54:11 <SamB> bh: only if you can do it without repeating them ad-nausium!
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