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13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=20b600e10382 00:59:38 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.13] * 0.13.1-12-g3f86fba: Avoid "explosion of exploding dart fragments" (minmay) 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f86fba9d142 00:59:38 ... and 4 more commits 01:06:46 -!- adam_ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:06:57 <|amethyst> Medar: I cherry-picked a couple of your commits into 0.13, but there are probably several others that would make sense to do so with 01:09:49 -!- maahes_ is now known as maahes 01:12:14 -!- Enthash has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:13:08 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:21:56 -!- nht has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 01:29:50 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:36:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 01:41:56 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 01:46:14 -!- browncustard has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:49:01 -!- browncustard has joined ##crawl-dev 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[Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:29:58 Medar? 03:30:09 What's up? 03:30:15 :) 03:30:16 hi :) 03:30:44 their is some strange coloring behavior in lantea webtiles 03:31:14 like what? 03:31:18 you have push a recent commit for player HP and MP colouring? 03:31:31 yes 03:31:36 I think that when I'm poisonned, my HP and MP turn blue 03:31:44 like enhanced blue 03:32:07 ok, let's see 03:33:04 yep 03:33:08 it's poison 03:35:50 -!- browncustard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:37:21 -!- maahes has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:37:21 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:42:50 03Medar02 07* 0.14-a0-1445-g6cbad44: Fix any status making HP/MP blue in WebTiles 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cbad44a34a6 03:43:56 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:51:36 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:05:26 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:09:42 -!- jeanjacques has joined 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04:52:24 ah tight 04:52:30 right* 04:54:15 Anyway, just look out for extra spaces and doing the brackets correctly. And use proper sentences in commit messages, if possible 04:54:32 ok 04:55:00 i'll try to remember for extra space, and I tried to use bracket correctly 04:55:05 There is coding_conventions.txt in the repo, if you haven't looked at that 04:56:04 yep, I have read it, and as the bracket usage is different from mine, I try to respect it, but it's possible i missed some from my reflexes 04:56:30 Sure, that happens to me too 04:58:21 there is a tool to check specing no? 04:59:50 I'm not using one. 05:00:03 I'm sure such tools exist though. 05:00:11 thought someone talked about a script designed for this 05:00:14 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:00:50 i'll ask later 05:04:58 R-Click doesn't exit menus? by Lorkhan 05:22:45 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:45 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 05:22:45 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 05:33:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:35:04 Medar, still around here? 05:35:09 Sure 05:35:44 I wanted to have a look to the player status to seen if I can implement the MR display discussed on the forum 05:35:54 but I really can't find where it's done 05:36:00 any advice? 05:36:05 its maaaaagic 05:36:12 as usal :p 05:36:22 Where what part is done? 05:36:32 the % screen 05:36:47 theres a script for whitespace stuff called checkwhite, but i dont know where it is and how it is used 05:37:00 ah right thanks alefury 05:37:03 for the more complex things you have to ask kilobyte 05:37:17 he has scripts for other formatting things 05:37:57 the most important thing is to not use tabs ;) 05:38:03 yep 05:38:17 i'm already configured as this 05:38:28 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:38:50 I looked int this but missed it... 05:39:36 Well, the white space errors in your patch that I saw, where just stuff like "if (..." <- two spaces 05:40:17 smell a bad copypasta thing :p 05:40:23 Looking at some CMD_ names and following them I think %-screen is print_overview_screen() 05:40:57 ah, didn't thought to start from the CMD_ 05:41:00 thanks 05:41:40 grepping for stuff you see on the %-screen works too 05:41:47 -!- Naruni has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:41:58 i'm not really... good at grepping 05:42:14 its maaaaaaagic 05:42:22 you have to learn the incantations 05:42:33 (seriously) 05:42:43 you know I hitted people for saying this? 05:43:00 good thing you cant hit me over the internet :) 05:43:05 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:43:08 yes, I know, the power is in the regex, you can't do anaything without the rules 05:43:18 :p 05:43:22 well, grep itself has a bunch of options too 05:43:35 I very rarely use regex when grepping 05:43:43 which depend on the version, or whether you are using git grep 05:45:11 yeah, me neither 05:45:37 well, i never use grep 'cause i'm a windows user :p 05:45:39 usually just searching for an enum entry and looking at the file with the most hits is good enough 05:45:48 there is something like grep for windows 05:45:52 but its not as good as grep 05:45:56 but windows provide some searching tools 05:45:58 yep 05:46:26 your editor doesn't have anything? 05:46:39 yes, it have too 05:46:56 but I said, I lack some... basic ideas for searching 05:47:14 enum entries are usually a good start 05:47:30 I can see 05:47:35 i'll try to remeber this 05:48:01 or any string you see in game 05:52:35 oh can't have negative resist with a 2 dot rest 05:53:26 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:53:50 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:50 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:00:14 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:09:26 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:10:57 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:13:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 06:16:35 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 06:20:34 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:48 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 06:30:55 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:31:23 -!- Vaporware has joined ##crawl-dev 06:31:41 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:54:36 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:54:47 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55:16 Hi! A serious proposal: since tenofsword's nicely remade % screen, we have exactly the space needed to show MR and Stealth (also) as bars. 06:55:16 dpeg: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 06:56:27 Proposal: add two more entries to left-hand resistance columns. First entry: "Stealth: ##.........", second entry: "MR: ####......". Ten breakpoints, as we already have for the adjectives. Keep the verbal desription in the text box below. 06:56:53 I think the combination of bar and text gets across what we want well. 06:58:05 galehar just posted on the forum, in favour IIUC. 06:59:58 * galehar casts polymorph on dpeg 07:00:20 -!- dpeg is now known as dpig 07:00:58 galehar: this seems easy enough that I even could do it... but it'll take a while (no time at all until Sunday), and no promises. 07:01:50 so easy even a 6 years old (or dpeg) could do it! 07:03:08 hm, my 6 year old couldn't :) 07:04:17 I just wanted to see if there's any objection. This is just additional interface sugar, so perhaps not. 07:04:23 they don't teach c++ in kindergarten in germany? 07:04:39 they teach the ABC but not the A++B++C++ yet. 07:04:55 This would be a good opportunity to change "Magic resistance" to something better, but I don't have a good idea. 07:05:42 I think the name is fine. Not very sexy but simple and to the point. 07:08:00 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:08:57 ok 07:09:20 if I cannot do it on Sunday myself, I'll either complain to jpeg or make an implementable :) 07:11:23 since it's a popular request and easy implementation, we might get a patch for it 07:17:50 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:17:52 not much luck with implementables recently 07:24:38 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:32:49 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 07:34:17 -!- _dd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:35:36 -!- eith_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:36:42 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:37:20 -!- eith|2 is now known as eith_ 07:50:10 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 07:51:19 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 07:56:51 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:07:06 -!- Thomus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:07:12 -!- iasov has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:11:18 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:17:25 -!- Zermako has quit [] 08:20:09 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:20:27 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:23:08 -!- Zermako has quit [Client Quit] 08:26:21 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 08:32:55 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:34:00 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:39 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:46:07 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:48:47 -!- _oink_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:50:15 -!- imantor has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:59:02 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:04:50 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-1447-gb34792e: Remove some loot from a hell vault 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b34792e09e1e 09:05:09 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:06:27 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:27 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 09:06:28 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 09:06:56 also i'm not sure if that dis vault actually ever places? i couldn't get it to even with massive weight and only generating the more open dis layouts, at least 09:07:08 -!- Vaporware has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:07:10 not sure if it's just too huge or i was doing something wrong or what 09:07:51 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:21 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:49 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 09:11:37 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:43 -!- Somefellow has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:26:08 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:27:02 -!- ophanim has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:28:28 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:28:33 -!- MaxFrosty has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:28:44 dpig galehar : i think Cedor is working on the mr and stealth bars 09:28:51 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:28:52 or at least he tried to work on them 09:29:13 trying yes 09:29:26 I think I have foud how i'll do this 09:32:23 dck on the tavern is making a good point about using a shorter bar 09:32:23 galehar: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:32:30 5 bars 09:32:43 with + instead of # 09:32:51 step is 40 09:32:54 yep, I thought about this 09:32:57 linear? 09:32:59 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:05 well, MR is linear 09:33:13 200 is immune because no monster can affect you over 178 09:33:13 kind of 09:33:18 is linear 09:34:06 well, whats actually relevant is the difference to power, and resist chance also does not depend linearly on that 09:34:19 but linear is definitely best in this case 09:34:41 because "superstrange" is not an option 09:34:44 lol 09:35:44 I tend to consider the represation of MR more like a log, but linear is fine yes 09:36:18 so... MR : +++++ 09:36:26 10 chars 09:36:55 can enter in the 2 columns resists 09:42:45 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:35 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:49:27 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=140280#p140280 hm 09:50:05 maybe it's an old save, with the bugged commit from last week 09:53:02 -!- giann has quit [Client Quit] 09:53:07 Maybe it's an offline trunk build of that. 09:53:13 yep 10:06:16 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 10:09:34 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:12 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:19:40 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:27 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:26:57 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 10:28:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:28:23 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:33:26 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:33:50 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:34:07 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:35:51 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:39:38 -!- xnavy is now known as Guest47918 10:39:38 -!- Guest47918 has quit [Killed (dickson.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 10:39:38 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 10:43:14 galehar, still around here? 10:47:05 on unrelated topic : what is the philosophy about recursivity around here? 10:47:33 i feel like the move to more muted colors on some of the more recent tiles makes some of the monsters harder to distinguish 10:47:40 e.g. green vs. regular rats, brown vs. red ugly things 10:47:57 yep 10:48:00 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:48:21 the texture is really good, but the colors not ... flashy? enough 10:48:27 remind me 10:48:31 Well it's rats. 10:48:33 Bloax? 10:48:38 ah you're here 10:49:12 I like the texture you gave to the rats 10:49:13 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49:31 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49:34 I think the bats could receive the same aspect 10:49:44 (for their body) 10:50:03 <|amethyst> Cedor: what do you mean by "recursivity"? 10:50:08 Generally all of the early-midgame enemies could. 10:50:21 like function calling itself 10:51:02 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:51:20 <|amethyst> Cedor: recursion is fine if it makes the code simpler or easier to understand 10:51:25 -!- Surr has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:51:42 ah right it's recursion in english, sorry 10:51:49 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:52 ok 10:52:14 I think i have found aplace where it's could be helpfull 10:57:02 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:01:06 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:04:40 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:35 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:39 -!- Nivim has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 11:14:41 -!- freesalad has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:17:09 -!- floatboth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:18:21 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13.1-16-g807a372 11:24:15 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:24:39 diner time then sport time, i'll submit the patch this night (if there is no more comment in the forum) 11:28:15 -!- soundlusT has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:32:36 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1447-gb34792e (34) 11:35:43 -!- soundlus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:38:45 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:39:20 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:39:30 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 11:39:54 Cedor: hi! Awesome... you spare me having to look into this over the weekend :) 11:40:19 Cedor: please ping if still around 11:40:58 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:45:27 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:11 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:52:41 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:55:42 -!- soundlus|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:16:36 -!- ophanim has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:17:02 -!- Staplefun has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:17:59 -!- reaverbot has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:23:58 -!- dpig has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:25:37 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 12:25:52 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 12:26:34 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:53 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:14 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:40:47 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:21 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:44:08 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 12:54:32 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:56:27 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:01 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:15 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:04:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07:14 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:03 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:09:50 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:14:23 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:19:21 -!- reaverbot has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:21:06 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:18 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:22:02 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 13:25:58 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 25.0/20131102041233]] 13:26:28 MarvinPA: all large Dis vaults fail to place most of the time due to layouts used there; ./crawl --mapstat Dis:2 will tell you more 13:30:15 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:31:59 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:41:48 how big is a crawl level in dimensions? 13:43:05 ??level 13:43:06 I don't have a page labeled level in my learndb. 13:46:00 80x70 13:46:44 thanks 13:47:27 -!- uu99 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:47:29 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:07 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:49:55 -!- chewymouse has quit [Client Quit] 13:56:38 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:58:03 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:03 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:05:03 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:06:45 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:58 -!- _159 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:14:05 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 14:24:22 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 14:32:48 -!- Tellian has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:35:58 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:37:20 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:37:22 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:07 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:29 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:47:57 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:45 -!- Dacendoran_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:52:10 !tell Cedor D'accord avec |amethyst, la récursivité c'est ok si ça améliore la lisibilité. Ca peut être très élégant ou très pourri suivant comment c'est utilisé. 14:52:11 galehar: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:52:11 galehar: OK, I'll let cedor know. 14:52:18 !messages 14:52:19 (1/3) ChrisOelmueller said (2h 58m 15s ago): alright repo is up at https://github.com/ChrisOelmueller/crawl-ref (the link in description has the changes so far) commits before the empty separation thingy are stuff i randomly submit to nice devs (neil usually) so i don't clutter up too much 14:52:58 !messages 14:52:59 (1/2) ChrisOelmueller said (2h 54m 54s ago): a sample catalog template generated by this is http://bpaste.net/show/KMMZPNPikdTByuv1y96q/ - you'll notice some of these strings exhibit problems still. for now i added a file tracking TODO stuff as repo readme, but there's much more. 14:53:22 !messages 14:53:22 (1/1) ChrisOelmueller said (2h 54m 51s ago): i'm not familiar with both transifex and the client, so i didn't write scripts beyond template generation. will add a short something about how to test and set up things though. 14:54:54 !tell cedor ça dépend aussi du nombre d'itérations. S'il y en a beaucoup ou si la fonction alloue beaucoup de mémoire, la récursivité peut avoir un impact négatif sur les performances. 14:54:54 galehar: OK, I'll let cedor know. 14:55:32 !tell ChrisOelmueller Thanks, I'll have a look at this. Don't worry about transifex, I can take care of it. 14:55:33 galehar: OK, I'll let chrisoelmueller know. 14:58:36 03ChrisOelmueller02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-1448-g3fc6985: Make warning in skill menu stand out more 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3fc698571317 14:58:36 03ChrisOelmueller02 {|amethyst} 07[stone_soup-0.13] * 0.13.1-17-g0f9d4ff: Make warning in skill menu stand out more 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f9d4ffbaf4f 15:03:43 !tell ChrisOelmueller I probably won't be able to do much with this before a few weeks. I'll try to have a look at least. Maybe kilobyte will be interested too. 15:03:44 galehar: OK, I'll let chrisoelmueller know. 15:04:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:05:10 !tell ChrisOelmueller also, keep massaging as much as you want if you like a nice history. I don't mind having to reset the branch to update. 15:05:10 galehar: OK, I'll let chrisoelmueller know. 15:05:24 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:26 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:10:36 -!- Cedor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:15:03 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:17:38 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:18:41 wait 15:18:57 80 is the length, not the width, right? 15:19:09 <|amethyst> 80 wide, 70 high 15:19:13 good 15:20:13 same width as a standard terminal 15:21:14 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:39 the height is different because Linley didn't know about #defines, and wanted to avoid mistaking max X with max Y 15:22:09 <|amethyst> note that this includes the border 15:23:27 -!- ChongLi has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:25:02 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:26:07 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:28:35 -!- Nakat0my has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:28:52 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:58 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 15:29:13 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 15:30:36 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:30:50 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:32:27 -!- floatboth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33:19 http://pastebin.com/HtJ62xuW 15:33:25 that was much harder than I thought it would be 15:34:28 -!- nht has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:54 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 15:35:02 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:42:52 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:02 galehar, oui je sais :p 15:46:02 Cedor: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:47:32 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:48:02 Lightli: Wolfenstein is far, far easier to do, but nowhere as cool. 15:48:20 now to figure out what to DO with the layout 15:48:23 * kilobyte ponders DoomRL. 15:48:29 Because it's obviously an encompass vault 15:49:02 * Lightli resists temptation to vault-define a spellcasting spider with iron shot 15:50:33 screw iron shot, I can make you a rapid-fire spell 15:50:40 perfect 15:51:35 the TODO list is in the commit message here: 15:51:38 %git e473d029 15:51:39 07kilobyte02 * 0.13-a0-1627-ge473d02: Add Bloax' sweet cacodemon tile to UNUSED/. 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e473d029e917 15:51:39 !tell galehar oui, je sais. pour le moment je irais pasplus de 5 (et ça peut se regler aussi), mais surtout c'est la meilleur idée que j'ai pour eviter de la duplication de code quand je vois les fonctions _itosym1 et suivantes 15:51:39 Cedor: OK, I'll let galehar know. 15:52:19 oh, he's cute :) 15:52:40 aren't the cacodemons yellow? 15:53:01 not in Doom 15:53:13 :p 15:54:16 interesting how that Doom 3 pile of crap sees about as much references as Master of Orion 3 15:54:43 uh 15:54:56 no game should ever be compared to MoO3 15:54:59 not even ET 15:55:02 true 15:55:21 doom's pinky demon is implemented as crawl's "hell beast" imo 15:55:33 but it looks nothing like a pinky 15:55:35 spectres are lorocyprocas 15:55:57 and I still think MoO2 is the very best game ever made, even including its crashes and late-game building micromanagement 15:56:30 mancubi could use a spell that combines that spray spell and fireball 15:56:57 archviles would never make it in because they would be the most evil enemy in the game 15:57:09 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:57:14 arch-viles are rather easy to implement (all the data needed for resurection is already in corpse object) 15:57:36 Lightli: well, same as Doom 15:58:00 (they would obviously be rank 1) 15:59:10 if you're ever going to implement arch-viles 15:59:18 at least do it the actual doom2 way 15:59:44 and not the randomly-resurrect-everything-in-LOS-while-frying-you doomrl way 16:00:12 so insanely fast and attack with hellfire burst (that takes 3 turns to charge up and fizzles if you still aren't in LOS once it goes off) 16:00:57 goddamnit at this rate they'll be in the game by the weekend 16:01:26 -!- evilmike has left ##crawl-dev 16:02:40 -!- Notipsum has quit [Client Quit] 16:02:55 -!- SamB has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:03:08 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:42 -!- Notipsum has quit [Client Quit] 16:03:42 -!- Ipsum has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:04:14 -!- SamB has quit [Client Quit] 16:04:28 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:34 ? 16:06:11 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:06:21 -!- maahes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07:48 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:07:48 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:07:49 -!- AlsoZeor is now known as Zeor 16:10:50 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:12:21 -!- nht has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:12:48 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16:47 kilobyte: hmm, is "make clean all FOO=bar BAZ=quux" broken again? 16:17:15 I mean does it get confused and skip steps just because clean is *among* the targets? 16:17:58 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:52 also: 16:18:52 dungeon.h:264:36: warning: redundant redeclaration of ‘void dgn_seen_vault_at(coord_def)’ in same scope [-Wredundant-decls] 16:18:52 void dgn_seen_vault_at(coord_def gp); 16:18:52 ^ 16:18:52 dungeon.h:245:6: warning: previous declaration of ‘void dgn_seen_vault_at(coord_def)’ [-Wredundant-decls] 16:19:08 hmm, why did it bother with that arrow 16:20:40 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:56 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:23:07 because it usually bothers 16:23:18 -!- jameyd has quit [Client Quit] 16:23:46 it just seems like it should skip it when what it really wants to refer to takes up virtually the entire line 16:24:01 though it doesn't seem to know that, either 16:24:14 (judging by the lack of ~~~~~~~ 16:25:28 because it might not take up the whole line 16:25:59 it's legal to do 'void foo(); void bar(); void baz(xyz);' 16:26:05 so it only points to the end of the statement 16:26:43 at least, that's my understanding 16:27:14 Zannick: yes but if it was paying ATTENTION it would KNOW where the declaration had begun 16:27:41 psh, compilers paying attention. ;) 16:28:37 -!- jameyd has quit [Client Quit] 16:29:03 -!- jameyd has quit [Client Quit] 16:33:26 -!- jameyd_ has quit [Client Quit] 16:35:09 -!- jameyd_ has quit [Client Quit] 16:35:36 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:38:09 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-1449-gb10374b: [txc] autofix replaces ascii quotes by unicode. 10(25 hours ago, 1 file, 17+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b10374be2ac5 16:38:09 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-1450-gf44b2e1: [txc] Allow breaking lines between 2 tags. 10(22 hours ago, 2 files, 9+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f44b2e128bd1 16:38:09 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-1451-gdea2a66: Rewrap descriptions. 10(8 hours ago, 13 files, 313+ 314-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dea2a6613bb7 16:38:09 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-1452-g34c18d0: [txc] Don't try to remove whitespaces around punctuation in ja and zh. 10(63 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=34c18d0b198b 16:38:09 03Translators02 {galehar} 07* 0.14-a0-1453-gd712b63: [Transifex] Sync. 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 21+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d712b6388ca4 16:38:11 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:39:55 -!- Nef_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:40:19 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:42:52 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:45:30 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1454-g074feab: Merge Lightli and Grunt's E3M8 maps. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 32+ 63-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=074feabf3f08 16:45:55 -!- Dacendoran_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:45:59 SamB: where did you see that warning? I don't get it. 16:47:21 kilobyte: oh I'm trying out a new warning 16:48:31 I am strangely fine with this 16:49:18 Was there a command opt to launch crawl using a non-default init.txt? 16:50:43 but yeah, it is indeed there twice 16:51:40 nvm its -rc 16:55:40 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1455-gc22c6b5: [txc] Polish quotation marks. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c22c6b513ee1 16:55:50 -!- jameyd has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:58:35 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:00:53 MR and Stealth stat bar by Cedor 17:02:36 !tell dpig i'll be off until wednesday so leave me comments on mantis or in the forum 17:02:37 Cedor: OK, I'll let dpig know. 17:03:19 kilobyte: hmm, how/when is HAVE_FDATASYNC supposed to be defined? 17:04:58 well, when fdatasync() is present... 17:05:11 it's the only thing checked for by util/configure 17:05:41 -!- _oink_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:06:21 dpig 17:06:35 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:07:15 yep, dunno why he was under this nickname today 17:07:24 great patch idea 17:07:30 for the MR/stealth bars 17:07:30 Kirke's fault? 17:07:36 it come from the forum 17:07:51 and it's not really difficult to do 17:08:00 a lot of the words are not so descriptive as we might hope as it stands 17:08:20 I think the best idea is to have the too 17:08:23 two* 17:08:31 with limited numbers 17:08:42 5 levels for MR is fine 17:09:18 for stealth, it's different as we dont have to take in account the monsters stealth 17:09:22 quick question 17:09:41 so the adjectives can be throws off more easily 17:09:45 Want to put teleporters ala Roulette of Golubria in; how do I do that 17:10:06 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 17:10:22 * Cedor shows the others 17:10:43 -!- jameyd has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:13:45 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:13:56 and it's sleeping time 17:14:04 so good night boys 17:14:07 -!- Cedor has quit [Quit: Quitte] 17:14:32 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:50 Lightli: like serial_teleporters? 17:14:59 yeah 17:15:37 i dunno, that's what i would look at 17:17:16 speaking of serial_teleporters 17:17:20 let's remove serial_teleporters 17:17:33 replace it with cereal_teleporters 17:17:51 MarvinPA: What about the Roulette of Golubria 17:17:51 or at least the vast majority of the vaults that just teleport you from somewhere uninteresting to somewhere else uninteresting 17:18:05 ok, that part I'm fine with 17:18:48 More interesting stuff with teleporters please 17:18:56 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:05 grmbl 17:19:17 stil someowe with some power on mantis? 17:21:40 how about a teleporter that produces a monster as you step up to it 17:22:01 -!- Cedor has quit [Client Quit] 17:25:04 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:42 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:43 my main plan for serial_teleporters was to cut nearly all decorative uses and focus on teleporting into weird self-contained arenas, though of course I never got around to it 17:28:35 kilobyte: well, I'm getting this re: fdatasync(): . Am I building wrong? 17:29:57 IIRC there was some breakage on some version of OS X, which has the function but it's missing from a header 17:30:11 -!- reaverbot has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:42 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:21 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:53:46 kilobyte: actually, it was trying to run "$CXX" instead of $CXX 17:53:56 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:54:13 it presumably did not find "ccache g++" in my PATH 17:54:25 the configure script, I mean 17:56:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:57:49 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 17:58:25 is it even supposed to work unescaped? 17:59:04 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 17:59:18 it can get funnier if you want both colorgcc and ccache 17:59:21 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:59:34 don't they have a flag for that now? 18:00:05 -!- orionstein is now known as orionstein_away 18:00:11 hmm, first few mentions of color are related to register allocation I think 18:01:15 * SamB may have been thinking of clang 18:03:01 I've uploaded a patch to fix the minor issue in mantis 0007849 18:03:04 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:03:11 -!- Jebus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:04:51 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-1456-g44b79fe: [txc] Don't break danish quotes when autofixing french ones. 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=44b79fed5a99 18:04:51 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-1457-ge3def9c: Replace ascii by localized unicode for dash and quotation marks. 10(2 minutes ago, 76 files, 641+ 637-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3def9c80852 18:04:53 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:13 <|amethyst> hm 18:10:29 <|amethyst> there is a small problem with the smart-quote rules in English 18:10:49 <|amethyst> apostrophe can occur at the end of a word 18:11:10 <|amethyst> see the second paragraph of horn of Geryon's quote for example 18:11:33 <|amethyst> Oh, or are we using smart quotes for apostrophes everywhere? 18:11:57 <|amethyst> There's another in the mermaid quote 18:12:18 why would you do that? 18:12:30 ' and " are different for a reason 18:12:55 <|amethyst> not ' vs ", but ' vs ’ 18:13:11 ´ is dead to me 18:13:16 not sure why 18:13:19 <|amethyst> not that one either 18:13:22 gawd 18:13:25 fuck unicode 18:13:26 <|amethyst> '´’ 18:13:34 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:13:43 that last one doesnt exist on my keyboard, and i dont need it 18:13:54 I only have ' and ` 18:14:20 i have " ' ´ ` 18:14:40 but the last one are really for fucking up letters, for french and spanish and the like 18:15:05 but I don't have a bottom swishy thingy for french :( 18:15:13 okay, I have " too but thought we were talking singles 18:15:16 -!- Moredread has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15:17 also no ñ 18:15:27 ` is actually ascii though 18:15:31 i think i saw a description the other day where there seemed to be an extra space around smart quotes, is that fixed? 18:18:20 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:18:36 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:22:26 -!- Nakat0my has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:22:57 -!- Moredread has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:29 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:26:27 kilobyte: hmm, well, it's gone away now that I stopped abusing GXX that way ... 18:27:38 * SamB switched to the PATH=/var/lib/ccache trick 18:27:59 hmm except that's the wrong directory 18:28:31 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:58 -!- maahes has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:29:15 oh I spelled it right in my script, good 18:35:41 -!- reaverbot has left ##crawl-dev 18:36:48 kilobyte: whats E3M8? 18:36:56 kilobyte: some quake map or something? 18:37:32 kilobyte: nevermind, I remembered google exists 18:41:19 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 18:43:10 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 18:44:28 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:41 <|amethyst> quake? is that the thing the youngsters are playing? 18:46:27 <|amethyst> (okay, I realise Doom is only three years older, but at the time it felt like a long time) 18:46:52 |amethyst: no, that's the thing the slightly-less-old played 18:47:43 !next 18:47:43 doh 18:47:44 The RNG decrees that wheals shall win HuCj next. 18:47:44 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:51 -!- rkd has quit [] 18:52:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:55:04 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:57:55 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:59:04 -!- ophanim has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:56 -!- _oink_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:11:32 * SamB wonders how Make knows that some headers can be GENed later on in the build process ... 19:14:12 so, WHY do we want non-ASCII quotes/dashes in the english originals? 19:14:48 <|amethyst> Because they look nicer? 19:14:55 fr: place the iron giant sometimes in vaults like tower_of_babel (or possibly as a Depths / Dis unique) 19:15:04 they are not very easy to type :-( 19:15:29 <|amethyst> SamB: you can use txc -s 19:15:31 <|amethyst> or -l en 19:15:42 <|amethyst> err 19:15:45 <|amethyst> or I guess it's -a ? 19:15:57 <|amethyst> but anyway, I'm pretty sure the script can convert 19:16:32 <|amethyst> Is your compose key not working? :P 19:17:29 (possibly make a Depths-specific variant of giant_chief_lemuel featuring the iron giant as the chief) 19:18:33 -!- dacendoran_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:19:06 do the japanese really use Ҡ? 19:19:44 I've seen 「〠in Japanese. 19:19:51 <|amethyst> yeah, I'm more used to those 19:19:52 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 19:19:56 indeed 19:21:52 or, wait, maybe this was chinese 19:22:12 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 19:22:15 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_variation_in_quotation_marks 19:23:40 <|amethyst> Yeah, I see no “ in ja/ 19:23:59 oh good 19:24:43 <|amethyst> (then again, I see no quotes.txt there either) 19:26:31 couple of single quotes in commands.txt 19:28:15 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:31:50 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:35:24 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:35:33 So I had a strange Zot unique idea earlier. 19:35:44 (Zot can use strangeness in moderation, right?) 19:36:05 ...the crystal dragon - scales that reflect projectile attacks (like the reflection ego). 19:36:11 (or crystal walls) 19:36:21 ??crawl alternative 19:36:21 crawl alternative[1/4]: A very old (pre-Stone-Soup) and apparently abandoned fork of Crawl: http://www.interq.or.jp/libra/oohara/crawl-alternative/ or git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-ancient.git branch "alternative" 19:36:25 ??crawl alternative[2 19:36:25 crawl alternative[2/4]: Has a branch of unseen horrors (which have disease brand), mimics, and golems. The transparent rune in it is guarded by greater unseen horrors (that have antimagic!) and silence golems. 19:41:28 we already have a dragon unique 19:42:35 XTAHUA IS NOT WORTHY OF BEING PLACED IN ZOT. 19:42:37 <_< >_> 19:43:17 fr fix all the hacks around fire breath and draconian breath and then give xtahua red draconian breath 19:44:07 make xtahua show up as random dragon types 19:44:08 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:44:31 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:44:43 i'm sure players will appreciate mid-d unique pearl dragon 19:44:57 what's mid-d 19:45:08 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 19:45:10 D:8-9 clearly??? 19:45:12 <_< >_> <_< >_> 19:45:19 * ophanim smacks Grunt 19:45:25 make xtahua appear there as a fire drake 19:45:37 mini Xtahua to go with mega Xtahua? 19:45:50 give xtahua disc of storms breath 19:45:58 Grunt: iron dragon => crystal dragon; crystal plate armor => crystal dragon armor 19:45:59 "You see here a steam dragon armour {Xtahua}." 19:46:37 Eronarn: so is plate armour actually iron armour? 19:46:55 there's no iron in crawl; if there were, there would be iron dragons 19:47:02 steel dragons 19:47:05 iron dragon (10D) | Spd: 8 | HD: 18 | HP: 103-132 | AC/EV: 20/6 | Dam: 25, 25, 2507(trample) | see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(168), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1717 | Sp: metal splinters (3d30) | Sz: Huge | Int: animal. 19:47:05 %??iron dragon 19:47:20 unknown monster: "titanium dragon" 19:47:20 %??titanium dragon 19:47:23 Grunt: steel food breath weapon 19:47:28 unknown monster: "plutonium dragon" 19:47:28 %??plutonium dragon 19:47:39 oh right I really should make those things 19:47:42 plutonium dragon: breathes mutagenic clouds 19:47:49 plutonium dragon would be cool if only to put it guarding the sword 19:47:49 sadly I will probably not name them aluminum gargoyles 19:47:54 leaves a hide with rMut 19:48:02 quicksilver gargoyle 19:48:11 tenofswords: um, of course you wouldn't 19:48:12 also not that either 19:48:15 it's aluminium gargoyles 19:48:32 Eronarn: mercury, actually 19:49:03 thallium dragon 19:49:06 argon elemental 19:49:08 hm, there's a gold and silver rune, where are the silver dragons? 19:49:12 lithium troll 19:49:20 rename to quicksilver rune 19:49:31 all speed runs must get quicksilver rune 19:49:45 Eronarn: phial of floods on them have an......interesting effect 19:49:51 !lm ophanim min=lg:dur rune s=rune 19:49:52 742 milestones for ophanim (rune): 154x silver, 105x slimy, 97x serpentine, 87x barnacled, 87x decaying, 57x gossamer, 32x abyssal, 17x demonic, 16x fiery, 16x magical, 15x dark, 15x glowing, 13x iron, 10x obsidian, 8x bone, 7x golden, 6x icy 19:50:01 ...that didn't do what I expected! 19:50:05 !lg ophanim min=dur x=gid 19:50:06 2201. [game_key=ophanim:cszo:20120929155737S] ophanim the Skirmisher (L1 DsWn), quit the game on D:1 (onia_entry_handbag) on 2012-10-29 15:57:39, with 50 points after 0 turns and 0:00:02. 19:50:10 !lg ophanim min=dur won x=gid 19:50:11 120. [game_key=ophanim:cszo:20131110154726S] ophanim the Conqueror (L24 GrBe), worshipper of Trog, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-12-10 17:17:43, with 2024795 points after 43516 turns and 1:08:12. 19:50:26 !lm ophanim gid=ophanim:cszo:20131110154726S rune s=rune 19:50:27 3 milestones for ophanim (gid=ophanim:cszo:20131110154726S rune): silver, serpentine, decaying 19:50:30 ^ 19:50:33 !lm eronarn min=lg:dur rune s=rune 19:50:34 212 milestones for eronarn (rune): 39x serpentine, 33x decaying, 21x barnacled, 18x silver, 14x abyssal, 11x bone, 11x golden, 10x slimy, 9x obsidian, 9x icy, 8x iron, 7x dark, 6x demonic, 5x magical, 5x glowing, 4x fiery, 2x gossamer 19:50:50 fascinating, 1.5x as many coc runes! 19:51:07 I blame Grunt for that pun 19:54:12 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:29 -!- thomus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:02:26 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 20:19:18 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Quit: There's nothing dirtier then a giant ball of oil] 20:19:26 -!- inpho has quit [Quit: inpho] 20:21:10 anyways, anyone know how to make teleporters ala serial_teleporter? 20:21:28 (fr: remove serial_teleporter) 20:21:44 04L08U09A 20:22:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:23:52 Zannick: my eyes 20:25:32 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: Good night and good luck to all!] 20:27:22 Grunt: MarvinPA actually said just that when I last asked about it 20:27:44 MarvinPA: so when do we remove serial_teleporter :b 20:29:57 -!- Marbit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:30:35 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:32:11 Grunt: go ahead 20:32:38 I need to figure out what to write in the commit message... 20:34:22 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:39:37 Teleported into the abyss? 20:39:47 Wait no 20:39:50 Teleported out of the dungeon 20:40:24 you need to levtele between depth of -2 and -8, IIRC 20:40:34 kilobyte: unless you want to be on cloud nine, or in heaven :b 20:40:40 I much prefer teleporting to 0. 20:40:56 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-1458-g79dd6a1: Banish serial_teleporters. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 846-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=79dd6a1b8e81 20:40:58 Go to Nowhere. Are you sure? 20:41:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:41:18 ...actually, on the note of bad teleporter vaults. 20:42:11 are there good ones? 20:42:22 Roulette of Golubria 20:42:26 ...that's about it 20:42:47 Also I guess zigsprint counts 20:42:54 flavourful yes, good for gameplay no 20:43:08 also the zigsprint icecave 20:43:11 zigsprint can be turned into a multi-level sprint 20:43:33 did this remove the nemelex_choice vault? 20:43:39 kilobyte: I have prototype code for that somewhere. 20:43:57 -!- maahes has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:44:10 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44:12 nemelex_the_gamble is still around; there's another vault I have in mind that I'm about to remove (as long as this works as I expect). 20:47:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 20:49:41 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-1459-gf72215e: Remove another badly designed teleporter vault. 10(73 seconds ago, 2 files, 47+ 134-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f72215e01c56 20:52:45 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: ninja kapow] 20:54:51 03SamB02 07* 0.14-a0-1460-g2ea3763: Start using -Wredundant-decls; fix all the instances I get 10(70 seconds ago, 14 files, 12+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ea37633255f 20:55:59 * SamB hopes that didn't break the build on tiles or something ... 20:56:32 hmm, possibly should have done two commits, one to enable and one to rejigger things ... 20:58:02 -!- Stupendous has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:09 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:07:30 cacodemon (082) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 75-116 | AC/EV: 11/10 | Dam: 22, 22 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, lev, regen, !sil | Res: 06magic(156), 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1627 | Sp: b.energy (3d20), b.slow, confuse, malmutate, w.dig | Sz: Large | Int: high. 21:07:30 %??cacodemon 21:08:10 Here's a fun one: 21:08:17 Should IOODs dissipate when you kill their caster? 21:09:45 never 21:10:03 what's bolt of slow 21:10:04 I agree... but they do. 21:10:40 summon orb 21:10:53 fix it 21:11:14 terrible lack of monster/player symmetry 21:11:43 player orbs definitely keep going after you die! 21:12:07 right! 21:12:09 totally 21:12:15 and you get XP for it too 21:12:24 actually, they do, if you revive in LOS of them 21:12:45 oh, so it's not assymmetrical at all? 21:13:07 only felids have something happen after death 21:15:52 or xom worshippers 21:17:13 Lightli: is that *after* death? 21:17:16 or instead of? 21:17:22 good point 21:17:28 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:10 !lm * death !felid 21:19:11 No milestones for * (death !felid). 21:28:00 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:28:33 -!- ophanim1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:25 -!- ophanim has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:30:27 -!- ophanim1 is now known as ophanim 21:30:30 -!- tsohg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:19 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:06 -!- yogaFLAME has joined ##crawl-dev 21:45:06 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:45:16 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51:32 -!- Dr_Ke has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:00:01 -!- tenofswords has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:15 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:52 can someone one of these days fix the bug that makes vault errors not appear when you start 22:13:06 Lightli: I can't reproduce it because my Windows is too old 22:13:13 oh 22:13:24 so it's so old it still works? 22:13:26 iirc kilobyte broke it 22:13:29 Lightli: yes 22:13:42 get kilobyte to fix it then 22:13:56 please 22:15:08 it seems to have something to do with some UTF-8 flag he enables on the console handle now? 22:16:25 how come it's enabled? 22:17:37 he claims it makes things work better for, uh ... kilobyte: when did you say that worked better? 22:20:13 and of course I can't find the code anymore 22:20:19 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:20:35 I don't think I touched Windows console in like two years 22:21:30 there was something with such a flag that was required for something, but I can't recall what 22:22:28 -!- reaverbot has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:29 I vaguely recall messing it in the early days of Windows installer, but that's all I can say right now 22:23:19 well, you've definitely touched the win32 console stuff recently-ish: 22:23:24 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:25 %git 5f077547fa1719e85543b7c6734a251bd364a680 22:23:25 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1090-g5f07754: Allow graceful shutdown rather than a forced save (win32 console). 10(6 weeks ago, 3 files, 27+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f077547fa17 22:23:33 but that's nothing to do with this 22:24:46 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:48 the problem is that when a vault has an error in it, Crawl doesn't show it and just sits there 22:25:05 press enter and it closes, press letter keys and it types the letter 22:26:19 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:45 I've hit a problem when testing my pan vaults (similar to the ones that nicolae just put on mantis): My testing weights don't seem to work. 22:30:53 Wait, nevermind, I think I see the problem now. 22:31:47 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:33:43 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33:51 %git d4add257e66062227038469b1f5f7076b24df8e7 22:33:51 07kilobyte02 * 0.12-a0-2064-gd4add25: Try to enable UTF-8 mode for stdin/stderr on new versions of Windows. 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 11+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4add257e660 22:34:08 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:34:17 kilobyte: I seem to recall someone bisected a problem preventing debug output to that commit 22:34:23 rchandra, possibly 22:34:45 That definitely was around when the problem first emerged 22:34:54 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:34:57 I remember testing my vaults in .11 instead of .12 just to see the error messages 22:35:17 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:36:06 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:36:30 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:39:24 No, I still have the problem. Testing Weight's aren't being identified. I can still access the vaults w/&L 22:47:15 !seen grunt 22:47:16 I last saw Grunt at Fri Dec 13 03:46:51 2013 UTC (1h 24s ago) saying 'DgAM' on ##crawl. 22:47:28 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:49 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:49:59 reaverbot: hi? 22:50:07 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:50:12 hey Grunt. 22:50:25 Did you see the problem I had with the testing weights? 22:50:46 Hm? 22:50:46 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:50:49 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:05 Is for those pan vaults, which I've finally gotten around the finishing. 22:51:15 The test weights aren't working. 22:51:59 What are the tags? 22:52:11 Actually, 22:52:14 just show me what you have right now. 22:53:26 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:53:47 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:54:05 * reaverbot once again struggles to get vim to copy and paste properly 22:54:27 http://pastie.org/8549112 22:54:46 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:55:49 The problem is even though some of those maps have WEIGHT: 99999999, they aren't showing up when I generate a new Pan level. I can still use "&L" to get them. 22:56:01 Also, thank you very much for the help Grunt. 22:57:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:57:45 reaverbot: I love the idea of reaver_pan_captured_pan_lord 22:58:18 ooh, I know a pan lord vault 22:58:34 that's basically like the yred vault with the human getting miasmad 22:58:46 but instead it's a pan lord getting holied and turned into an angel 22:58:55 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59:02 reaverbot: are these in pan.des? 22:59:08 Grunt: yes 22:59:52 what if the pan lord knows dig 23:00:02 gammafunk: My two other ideas: a holy in a similar cell surrounded my minor demons, and an Angel which prays at a Yred altar, turning it into a profane servitor (lua magic) 23:00:07 Lightli: spells: . 23:00:12 oh 23:00:41 (Also, there's a discussion on the Tavern about generally keeping monsters w/dig inside their vaults) 23:01:17 I like both ideas, actually 23:02:05 the servitor one is hilarious, but some might just suggest a vault with an already 'converted' servitor and perhaps some weapon placement to suggest teh conversion 23:02:25 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:02:57 e.g. the large shield and weapon of holy wrath randomly strewn near the altar 23:03:24 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:03:29 I'm not sure how much decorative vault gimmickry would actually be tolerated, but these things are fun to stumble upon 23:04:00 to be fair it's not a decorative vault, since there are hostile monsters 23:04:06 WEIGHT:1 is always an option. 23:04:09 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:16 any update on the vault error messages not appearing thing? 23:04:37 reaverbot: yes, but some dislike that they exist in large numbers due to maintenance or just matters of taste 23:04:56 but in either case, fun ideas 23:05:55 There should be a sprint with all the old spoilery/flavorful vaults. (Like the Indy one and the Fedhas oklob one.) 23:07:09 I know, a crawl quiz 'sprint'. Shows you a vault and prompts you with quizz questions about the vault's maker, design, and other trivia 23:07:22 gammafunk: that sounds hilarious 23:07:36 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:07:41 if the game crashes when it shows you the vault, clearly it was one of mine 23:07:57 Lightli: If the vault never places and is vetoed, it's one of mine 23:08:39 speaking of vaults that don't work 23:08:40 http://pastebin.com/HtJ62xuW 23:08:48 why can't I make this work 23:09:36 Lightli: if you build crawl you could try commenting out these lines: 23:09:53 _setmode(_fileno(stdout), _O_U8TEXT); 23:09:54 _setmode(_fileno(stderr), _O_U8TEXT); 23:09:57 from main.cc 23:10:30 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:10:54 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:10 SamB 23:11:26 Speaking of compiling, how do I update the build I have to the latest one without redownloading everything 23:11:48 git pull usually 23:11:49 Lightli: "git pull 23:11:58 thanks 23:11:58 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:02 er. screwed up the quotes 23:12:10 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:12:15 and and 'usually' was not part of the command 23:12:29 unless you want to merge the branch 'usually' 23:12:38 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Client Quit] 23:12:44 which could be the intention! 23:12:55 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:06 hey, the first time I tried editing something it was shot down by grunt in 5 minutes 23:13:12 GRUNT. 23:13:24 Lightli: What was it? 23:13:34 a Druid class 23:13:52 turns out that Fedhas for a starting god is more broken than anything ever 23:14:16 (it got shifted to an aprilfools branch so it might turn up one day anyways) 23:15:03 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:15:52 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 23:16:38 how do I comment it out, put a ; in front of it? 23:16:47 Lightli: // 23:17:02 (or /* at the start and */ at the end) 23:17:36 and how do I build it again? 23:18:20 checkout install.txt 23:18:30 As in, look at the file install.txt 23:18:34 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:19:34 -!- Pepe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:19:51 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:21 and done 23:20:31 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:20:40 time to wait for the building to be done 23:21:30 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 23:22:17 -!- squimmy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:22:23 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:23:03 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 23:27:32 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 23:28:00 -!- Dacendoran has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:28:08 !lg . x=sdam 23:28:09 2552. [sdam=22] wheals the Warrior (L15 DsBe), worshipper of Trog, blasted by a raiju (living lightning) on Abyss:3 on 2013-12-13 05:22:19, with 97510 points after 26229 turns and 1:19:40. 23:28:22 ah, dpeg isn't here 23:29:50 bh would be happy 23:30:28 oh, for some reason i thought dpeg was the one who added them 23:30:37 -!- dacendoran_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:30:49 too many devteam members with consonant-heavy names 23:31:14 %git 6559f0c1c19a 23:31:14 07bh02 * 0.14-a0-899-g6559f0c: Raiju: Lightning Beasts 10(4 weeks ago, 10 files, 75+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6559f0c1c19a 23:31:18 ok 23:32:21 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 23:32:31 -!- slifty has quit [Client Quit] 23:33:56 !lg * killer = raiju 23:33:56 No keyword 'raiju' 23:34:05 !lg * killer = hobgoblin 23:34:05 No keyword 'hobgoblin' 23:34:08 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:34:08 !lg * killer=raiju 23:34:09 35. wheals the Warrior (L15 DsBe), worshipper of Trog, blasted by a raiju (living lightning) on Abyss:3 on 2013-12-13 05:22:19, with 97510 points after 26229 turns and 1:19:40. 23:34:41 !lg * killer=raiju max=sdam x=sdam 23:34:42 35. [sdam=29] Azmund the Skirmisher (L1 HOAK), worshipper of Lugonu, blasted by a raiju (living lightning) on Abyss:1 on 2013-12-06 22:32:38, with 0 points after 12 turns and 0:00:06. 23:35:33 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:36:11 -!- slifty has quit [Client Quit] 23:36:39 -!- Marbit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:40:58 -!- reaverbot has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:41:22 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:44:56 -!- Twinge has quit [] 23:49:00 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:49:04 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:51:56 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 23:52:02 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 23:55:12 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:58:58 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev