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'Nyo.'"] 00:21:58 03elliptic02 07* 0.14-a0-1379-g74b6bc2: De-rune two doors. 10(73 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=74b6bc213021 00:26:02 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:00 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:23 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:37:51 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:38:24 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:01 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:45:42 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:29 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1379-g74b6bc2 00:55:49 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:59:03 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:00:47 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:08:04 -!- thened has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:49 -!- tabstorm has quit [Client Quit] 01:16:27 why do gargoyles get a better statue form than everyone else? 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You have no appropriate body parts free. 13:06:56 i wonder what it was trying to do (chaos weapon) 13:07:16 sounds like beastly appendage 13:08:22 sounds like transformations give messages when they're not supposed to and don't give messages when they are supposed to, funfun 13:08:41 (presumably separate issues but they've been broken for a while i think) 13:09:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09:39 yeah it's appendage 13:10:14 -!- NTAFF has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:11:53 http://sprunge.us/MbVR - quick further clean-up on some previous patches of mine 13:12:06 (also cutting a super-high testing weight I left in) 13:13:51 ...and I forgot the nerfing the blink other statues slightly ugh 13:14:12 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-1380-g31fcc81: Don't give a message when a forced appendage transformation fails 10(60 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=31fcc813e99d 13:14:14 stupid coding 13:14:36 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:15:55 -!- PolkaDot has quit [*.net *.split] 13:16:15 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:16:45 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:18:52 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:58 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: yes] 13:24:58 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25:27 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:03 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:27:20 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:03 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:29:54 -!- Cedor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:35:21 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:45 -!- freesalad has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:36:49 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:01 -!- Sky__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:42:45 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:45 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:42:48 Anyone against renaming large rocks to boulders? 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14:04:43 <|amethys1> oh, I guess in the other direction it would just pass though 14:05:05 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:11 <|amethys1> did we make it so that reflected beams are credited to the originator? 14:05:24 %git 9232e2cf62fe 14:05:24 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-432-g9232e2c: Don't impose TSO penance for reflecting poison/draining (you still get xp). 10(6 weeks ago, 10 files, 23+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9232e2cf62fe 14:05:27 -!- jeffrom has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:59 I just think fedhas needs to be more consistant about who he considers the source of the beam ... 14:06:14 /she/it 14:07:34 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:07:45 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:08 <|amethys1> oh, menv[YOU_FAULTLESS] is a monster 14:08:24 <|amethys1> (of course) 14:11:18 <|amethys1> I'm not sure why it's being considered your bullet after reflection. agent() should be Donald, unless Fedhas is checking agent(true) somehow 14:11:24 -!- jeffrom has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:12:12 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:12 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:17:16 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:17:39 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:48 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:53 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:22:28 -!- Sequell has quit [Quit: Sequell] 14:23:07 -!- |amethys1 has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:23:23 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:51 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:25:40 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:25:44 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:27 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:27 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35:17 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:08 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:39:27 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:43 uh 14:42:51 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1381-gd382354: Don't randomly turn runes into mimics (#7831). 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 8+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d382354b3915 14:43:51 |amethyst: did you fix the save file too? or was it dead or in use? 14:43:54 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:44:09 <|amethyst> SamB: I asked basil in-game and he said he didn't need it anymore 14:44:10 -!- Guest_39 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:44:19 <|amethyst> SamB: it was his Basil account, not Sage, which confused me at first 14:44:30 <|amethyst> (since Sage reported the bug) 14:44:38 how did you get into his game 14:44:40 <|amethyst> !nick spicerack 14:44:40 No nick mapping for spicerack. 14:44:48 ;-P 14:44:58 unknown monster: "neil" 14:44:58 %?? neil 14:45:04 <|amethyst> with m :P 14:45:13 <|amethyst> I had the mail daemon ask for me 14:45:20 fr: 14:45:35 <|amethyst> ??ring of vitality 14:45:35 ring of vitality[1/1]: A ring of regeneration that gives +15 HP. 14:45:47 wait I thought that was a nethack thing 14:45:54 (the daemon) 14:46:11 <|amethyst> our mail daemons are like our shopkeepers 14:46:13 <|amethyst> elusive 14:46:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:46:50 occasionally when somebody forgets to press _ for a long while they get spatial mailstroms 14:46:50 <|amethyst> I guess shopkeepers keep a wormhole to shopkeeperland inside their shops 14:47:05 <|amethyst> because even when you cause one to abandon their shop you still don't see them on the map 14:47:07 (sorry) 14:47:25 <|amethyst> Grunt has a new challenger I see 14:48:08 <|amethyst> Bazaar is like a demiplane of shopkeeperland 14:48:55 -!- Guest_40 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:03 can you get spatial maelstroms from Corruption? 14:49:15 yes, but they banish themselves after a short period of time 14:49:18 i haven't played lugonu in ages, I'm just curious how much a few of those would wreck the dungeon 14:49:19 ah 14:49:29 too unstable to exist outside abyss 14:49:41 <|amethyst> can't take stairs either IIRC 14:50:19 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51:29 Actually, it's more that they turn around and go back to the abyss immediately 14:51:31 obviously the ideal use for them is portal vaults 14:51:42 The regular dungeon is too orderly for them 14:51:59 Whatever happened to polymoths anyways? 14:52:19 -!- jeffrom has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:13 03HangedMan02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-1382-g0f67edb: Vault patch clean-up patch 10(2 hours ago, 5 files, 166+ 44-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f67edb6792f 14:54:39 <|amethyst> "strange generator" sounds like something to do with chaos theory 14:54:51 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:55:00 (yes it was a very lazy name) 14:56:25 so, anyone else think poison would be better if it were shorter, stronger and less random? 14:56:36 * tenofswords raises his hand 14:57:01 cool :) 14:57:21 because that's what I proposed on c-r-d and hardly got any feedback 14:58:02 if you redo poison, it would be a good chance to make the status colour more meaningful too. 14:58:18 Sky (L8 SpAr) ERROR: range check error (27002 / 2000) (D:3) 14:58:26 for example, red could mean "this will kill you if you try to wait it out", yellow could mean "this won't kill you by itself" 14:58:40 well, in the new system I proposed, there isn't any breakpoint 14:59:26 why not. Would be novel to handle status colour like that 15:00:08 um 15:01:02 0.14-a0-1379-g74b6bc2 just gave me a bunch of repeats of "You hear the roar of battle. There is an entrance to a bailey on this level. Hurry and find it before the portal closes forever!", about 100 moves after I entered the level 15:01:04 I'm thinking a bit of Contam here, where yellow is where it starts to mean you can explode 15:01:07 galehar: surely if the poison is deterministic you can detect if it is fatal 15:01:45 even if it's random, there could be 3 colours which mean "not deadly" "maybe deadly" and "definitely deadly" 15:02:56 yeah, I don't mind changing the colours, but that's not what I proposed to begin with :) 15:03:03 <|amethyst> monsters will never cast summons after they're pacified, right? 15:03:03 here is it for those who missed it 15:03:06 https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=alpine.DEB.2.02.1311272010580.24678%40nawab.imp.fu-berlin.de&forum_name=crawl-ref-discuss 15:04:12 geekosaur: odd 15:04:19 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04:23 did someone mess with the timed portal messaging code? 15:04:38 recently yes but I thought it had been fixed already 15:06:21 yeah, I broked it and kilobyte fixed it :) 15:07:08 * geekosaur is playing offline as usual; any kind of dump or etc. he can upload? 15:07:24 (although I have finished the level in question and the bailey is long gone at this point) 15:09:14 evilmike: Great idea. 15:09:37 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:11:06 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:16:05 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 15:16:10 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 15:17:21 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:20:59 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:21:45 -!- nonethousand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:22:23 |amethyst: unless the recent ely changes affected that, no, they will continue to summon after pacified 15:24:15 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:24:27 i don't believe they will summon if you are in the way of their path, but they will use summons to defend against other monsters 15:24:30 <|amethyst> Medar: hm, ctrl-f in webtiles closes immediately in firefox if there are results 15:24:36 <|amethyst> johnny0: hm 15:24:37 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:47 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:30:26 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:12 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:34:46 <|amethyst> Medar: oh, it's sending two newlines 15:35:33 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:36:47 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:38:56 neil (L1 HuFi) (D:1) 15:42:28 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:43:01 |amethyst: the previously-mentioned mix of client- and server- side input handling is screwing things up again, perhaps? 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So apart from the very early game, you don't have to worry about accidental stabs. 17:19:47 Sounds good. 17:20:03 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:21:11 (this is inspired by a forum thread, but I've been thinking that the conduct should be turned into a mechanic for a while) 17:22:11 If we're to apply a bit more logic to the halo, then enemies attacking you in melee should get an accuracy reduction. 17:22:23 A simpler and more thematic version (but a little harder on the player): monsters inside your halo are never distracted and always wake up. 17:22:38 Bloaxor: it used to be the opposite 17:22:40 Because while it may seem that a shining figure would be easy to hit, it's pretty hard to orientate what to hit when you're staring at the sun. 17:23:16 hm, sounds reasonable -- TSO could stand to get more early power, right? 17:23:36 Now I'm curious. 17:23:46 !lg * god=TSO XL<=14 17:23:46 31298. Armakuni the Severer (L12 HOSk), worshipper of The Shining One, mangled by a hill giant (a cursed -3,+0 giant club) on D:11 on 2013-12-08 20:05:42, with 13621 points after 14065 turns and 0:59:47. 17:24:00 !lg * god=Makhleb XL<=14 17:24:00 53290. flaco the Bludgeoner (L11 GrAr), worshipper of Makhleb, slain by an ice devil (summoned by an orc sorcerer) on Orc:2 on 2013-12-08 21:20:36, with 14110 points after 13811 turns and 0:46:50. 17:24:06 Is he really that popular? 17:24:15 angels are still extremely good summons 17:24:35 Bloaxor: well, for late game sure. 17:24:49 also actually possible to get piety 17:24:49 XL<=14 17:24:53 oh, and restrict search to 0.13 I guess 17:25:05 oh that might be it 17:25:40 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:26:16 (how do you do that again) 17:27:45 !lg * xl<=14 cv=0.13 s=god 17:27:46 78913 games for * (xl<=14 cv=0.13): 52844x, 7292x Trog, 3509x Okawaru, 2438x Lugonu, 2371x Xom, 1601x Vehumet, 1401x Yredelemnul, 1109x Sif Muna, 1062x Makhleb, 925x Ashenzari, 872x Nemelex Xobeh, 834x Elyvilon, 698x Kikubaaqudgha, 618x Cheibriados, 440x The Shining One, 332x Fedhas, 302x Beogh, 168x Zin, 97x Jiyva 17:28:16 i guess fedhas is good enough that not many die before xl 14 :P 17:28:34 !lm * xl<=14 cv=0.13 god.join s=god 17:28:34 No keyword 'god.join' 17:28:54 !lm * xl<=14 cv=0.13 god.worship s=god 17:28:55 15798 milestones for * (xl<=14 cv=0.13 god.worship): 4469x Okawaru, 1993x Vehumet, 1299x Makhleb, 1292x Sif Muna, 1141x Ashenzari, 1003x Nemelex Xobeh, 811x Kikubaaqudgha, 736x Cheibriados, 725x Trog, 596x The Shining One, 398x Beogh, 387x Fedhas, 219x Zin, 215x Yredelemnul, 190x Xom, 146x Elyvilon, 141x Jiyva, 37x Lugonu 17:29:19 nemelex is twice as popular as tso 17:32:42 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34:31 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:39:29 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:41:19 -!- Tarragon is now known as Basil 17:41:22 -!- tsohg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:30 Also, if you're considering reducing the amount of hammering 5 17:41:44 increasing the health regeneration rate a bit could be a thing 17:45:09 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 17:55:29 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:34 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:56:04 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:57:30 -!- Egglet has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:57:48 -!- Yeti218 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03:47 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:05:10 -!- evilmike has quit [] 18:07:41 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:11:19 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12:33 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 18:13:12 -!- Egglet has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:13:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:16:17 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:22:22 -!- Celsitudo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:22:36 -!- Tarragon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:24:09 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:24:50 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 18:30:42 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:24 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 18:32:28 I don't mean to interrupt your dev-work, but I do have something to ask. 18:32:39 I've been having this issue too: 18:32:43 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10028 18:32:45 -!- Chousuke has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:32:55 Any idea what causes it? 18:33:49 -!- Chousuke has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:00 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:41:06 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:43:35 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:47:49 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1383-g69e08ef: Don't double-announce artefact weapons. 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=69e08ef831fb 18:50:52 <|amethyst> why does the dragonskin cloak have APPEAR: ? 18:53:09 because it looks bad when on Tiamat 18:53:24 nothing compared to "Cerebov hits you with the sword of Cerebov.", though. 18:53:38 Wow. Crawl devs are faster than NetHack devs. :) 18:53:50 _snails_ are faster than nethack devs 18:53:51 NetHack what? :p 18:54:05 happy ten years of no releases 18:54:06 * kilobyte thinks the last of them died a decade ago. 18:54:23 LichHack 18:54:26 -!- Somefellow has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:54:43 nethack devs were chei worshippers who eventually ascended to a slower plane of existence 18:54:58 a *rock* is faster than netfhack devs 18:54:58 UnNetHack updated today, though. 18:55:34 bhaak is not a nethack dev tho 18:56:17 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:41 UnNetHack still has the cheat code, so even basic balance fixes are a no-no 18:57:14 There's an option to disable the E-word now. 18:57:25 At the start of the game. 18:57:32 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:32 there was since the day it was added 18:57:42 for some reason, it also disables crowning 18:57:53 Not a compilation option, a config option. 19:00:36 Added to trunk about a week ago. 19:00:37 * kilobyte doesn't see the point: if you can toggle it on/off as a player, why won't you just refrain from using it? 19:00:37 Temptation and mistakes, mostly. 19:00:37 it's a bit like keeping wizmode commands separate from normal ones 19:01:53 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:05 Anyway, thanks for your work on this game. ;) 19:06:49 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:06:58 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:23 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:14 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 19:10:42 New title screen by Psiweapon 19:14:01 looks a lot more like a woman with a weird energy tint than a statue 19:16:54 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:17:17 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:25:35 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:29:09 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:32:05 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:34:53 greensnark: holla holla holla! 19:46:34 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:48 the title screem should go in, I'd say -- no idea what Roxy looks like but the pixel art is good 19:50:16 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:37 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:11:55 -!- Tarragon is now known as Basil 20:15:36 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:16:21 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1384-g3110700: New title screen featuring Roxanne (Psiweapon, #7832) 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3110700ea60c 20:19:00 great! 20:19:45 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:21:29 -!- NekoRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:34 <|amethyst> I worry about the black background 20:21:39 <|amethyst> you can't really see her hair 20:21:48 <|amethyst> but it still looks good 20:22:56 if someone cares enough, they can change it :) 20:23:18 But I always say: with player input of this quality, should give immediate feedback (=motivation etc.) 20:23:33 <|amethyst> probably it originally lined up with something? 20:23:36 <|amethyst> err 20:23:52 -!- NekoRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:57 talking to robots again? 20:24:02 -!- monty__ has quit [Client Quit] 20:24:27 <|amethyst> wheals: meant to talk to ChrisOelmueller in the other channel 20:24:37 ??amethyst 20:24:37 amethyst[1/6]: <|amethyst> doh 20:27:36 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 20:29:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1385-ge492514: Trim some extra spaces (ChrisOelmueller) 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e49251448d3b 20:30:01 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:30:25 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:33:06 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: yes] 20:33:59 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all!] 20:37:17 -!- Sky__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:39:25 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Quit: Don't push the red button!] 20:46:18 -!- Brokkr has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:50:47 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:51:13 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:18 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:36 <|amethyst> bh: Hello creator of rune mimics 20:51:40 <|amethyst> %git :/rune 20:51:42 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-1381-gd382354: Don't randomly turn runes into mimics (#7831). 10(6 hours ago, 3 files, 8+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d382354b3915 20:51:48 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=139658 20:52:05 |amethyst: what's wrong with rune mimics? 20:52:24 bh: they lower the rune count? 20:52:33 SamB: o_0 20:52:38 not every game has two gossamer runes of zot 20:52:40 <|amethyst> bh: runes were randomly being turned into mimics :) 20:52:51 |amethyst: This is from when I let food and other boring stuff become mimics? 20:52:58 <|amethyst> bh: misc items in particular 20:53:09 <|amethyst> bh: turns out that's all that was preventing random rune mimics 20:53:29 there but for grace of god. 20:53:44 sorry about that. 20:56:26 -!- SamB_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:11 so, basically I think we should make monsters always prefer TSO followers to allies (if they're adjacent) and relax the distraction conduct 20:57:37 -!- SamB_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57:43 reposting from a few hours ago 20:57:54 A proposal for TSO: monsters inside your halo are never distracted, and everyone wakes up if (1) inside halo and (2) at most in distance 2. So apart from the very early game, you don't have to worry about accidental stabs. 20:58:04 A simpler and more thematic version (but a little harder on the player): monsters inside your halo are never distracted and always wake up. 20:58:30 distracted is sort of weird. Since the state seems to just be defined as foe != you 20:59:40 bh: could let the monsters do the same thing as before, just don't count as "distracted" -- so no stabbing opportunity, and no TSO anger 21:00:38 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 21:04:39 my favourite form of distraction is when monsters hit themselves with a conjuration 21:07:05 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:21 -!- monty__ has quit [Quit: monty__] 21:11:45 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:12:44 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: ninja kapow!] 21:16:52 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19:57 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:21:45 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:26:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:26:30 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:28:34 <|amethyst> Grunt: 531d946 increased all summon caps by 1 21:28:49 <|amethyst> Grunt: because of the if (mons == *mi) check you added 21:29:16 <|amethyst> Grunt: I had been wondering why I had to use 0 instead of 1 for CCF to get it to really give you one hound 21:31:46 -!- wifigrill1 has quit [Client Quit] 21:31:48 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:34:14 <|amethyst> Grunt: I was going to start count at 1 instead of zero to restore the old behaviour for player summons. Should I increase the monster caps by 1 to compensate? 21:35:16 -!- wifigrill has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:36:46 <|amethyst> Grunt: I guess I'll let them stay for now (so actual caps decreased by one), and you can increase them if necessary 21:40:10 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:42:43 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:42:57 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:44:11 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1386-g551047e: Lower summoning caps by 1 to where they should be. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=551047e54723 21:44:11 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1387-g98f7a91: Up the scorpion cap. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=98f7a9182480 21:44:21 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1385-ge492514 21:44:38 -!- monty__ has quit [Quit: monty__] 21:45:06 |amethyst: doh 21:45:21 <|amethyst> what about increasing the cap on spammals too? 21:45:32 <|amethyst> as suggested in ##crawl 21:45:57 * Grunt shrugs. 21:46:06 I'm not going to broach that subject with a 21-foot pole. :b 21:46:14 * Grunt goes to finish getting home from work. 21:48:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1388-g200237c: Increase the summon small mammals cap slightly. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=200237c43a64 21:54:41 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:00:38 -!- tenofswords has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:56 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:08:52 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:16:18 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:17:43 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:18:41 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 22:20:04 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:33:11 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:34:43 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:35:25 -!- tigertrap has quit [Quit: tigertrap] 22:39:28 -!- Rogue has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:43:18 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:11 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:49:50 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:49:56 -!- _dd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50:55 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51:10 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:47 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:52:04 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:08:58 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 23:15:20 -!- emyht has quit [Client Quit] 23:26:44 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:27:22 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:27:55 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:29:52 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:30:25 -!- emagenta has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:35:15 App exits after tutorial-completion screen by putridmelon 23:35:15 App exits immediately on ESC during character creation by putridmelon 23:36:57 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:38:46 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:40:18 Ctrl-F in inventory screen does not work by putridmelon 23:40:18 Closing parens missing at top-of-inventory help instruction by putridmelon 23:48:21 -!- monty__ has quit [Quit: monty__] 23:52:21 chris has this to offer us: http://bpaste.net/show/m5xPkDNDN1OFN2i14ZZA/ 23:54:24 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:55:28 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:55:30 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:59:40 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev