00:05:48 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-1192-g192f278 (34) 00:06:10 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1192-g192f278 (34) 00:06:49 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:09:36 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 00:16:10 inside of a lua function in a vault, how can one replace all ~'s on a map with . ? 00:16:23 I see some references to gsub, but I'm not quite sure how they work. 00:18:18 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1192-g192f278 (34) 00:23:56 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:26:29 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:28:19 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:33:04 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46:25 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1192-g192f278 00:49:25 -!- MaxFrosty is now known as MaxFrost 00:50:17 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52:33 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:56:21 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:57:07 is there a quick way to recolour the text from Recite? 00:57:59 -!- djanatyn has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 00:59:54 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:02:38 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:03 -!- soundlust|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:06:28 -!- Arkaniad_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:06:48 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:10:47 chrisO tells me it is on the multiturn channel (main.cc, line 2312). should I mantis that? it would be nice to colour that separately. 01:11:24 could go on the god channel, or a new one 01:13:43 there's a stylistic inconsistency in the Donald Temple lines patch, two spaces after a period 01:14:55 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:48 nonethousand: I believe kilobyte edited that in the next commit 01:17:23 %git :/French 01:17:23 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-473-g77d7be9: Use French spacing in jump attack descs. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=77d7be995aaf 01:19:29 Hello, I can't seem to get my triggerable to do anything here: http://rob.pecknology.net/oss 01:19:45 I've modeled the lua after the ashenzari triggerable ... mine just does nothing :( 01:19:46 ah yes 01:20:07 I had an old version of monspeak 01:23:05 * gammafunk shakes fist at French spacing 01:23:22 ahh perhaps It is the missing comma ... just saw it 01:23:25 testing it out 01:24:06 hmm still no action when I step on the ! squares 01:25:24 did you try putting in an mpr? 01:28:23 -!- Croesus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:29:28 It seems like only one of the '!'s in my map will cause the trigger to fire, rather than all of them. 01:30:11 huh 01:30:19 look at that stupid oklob vault I removed? 01:30:32 it's always the same one too, the one in the corner. 01:31:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:31:36 %git 2a5f276b444b71f5672969b8e572910109e33e58 01:31:38 07SamB02 * 0.13-a0-510-g2a5f276: Remove fedhas_growing_garden for being majorly annoying (rchandra) 10(7 months ago, 2 files, 6+ 308-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a5f276b444b 01:31:57 badplayer: hmm, always the same one? 01:32:16 so if you step on some other one first it doesn't work? 01:32:39 right 01:32:46 only a particular corner one 01:33:07 I did fix the syntax error with the missing comma in the function signature. 01:33:57 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:39:16 I can step on the other ones all I want ... only stepping on the one in the corner seems to trigger the function 01:53:00 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-1192-g192f278 (34) 01:55:33 badplayer: maybe the marker isn't sticking correctly? 01:55:39 to the other cells I mean 02:03:34 yah, wondering what could cause that ... 02:07:15 seems like only the first occurence of the glyph on the map is letting the trigger fire 02:07:24 -!- elliptic is now known as hyperbolic 02:09:56 badplayer: the fedhas_growing_garden did at least manage to set the same trigger trigger up for multiple cells 02:10:39 -!- hyperbolic is now known as elliptic 02:20:11 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:21:07 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:26:39 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:33:33 has some intentional or unintentional change caused a lot of single strawberries to appear in lair? 02:40:15 -!- wack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:42:31 -!- Sequell has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:45:50 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:49:48 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:52:13 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:33 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:41 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:03:53 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:10:56 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 03:12:47 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:19:50 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:46 -!- jeffrom has joined ##crawl-dev 03:27:23 -!- jeffrom has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:29:50 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:35:38 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:36:53 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 03:41:51 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:56:27 -!- Tarragon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:59:29 -!- Fusentrap has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:02:56 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 04:07:33 -!- shock_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14:44 sequell died, in case no one noticed 04:14:59 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 05:02:18 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 05:05:38 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:11:49 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:15:40 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:16:30 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:23:38 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:43:49 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:48:21 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:20:49 -!- Dr_Ke has quit [] 06:25:03 -!- jeffrom has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:47 -!- jeffrom has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:35:19 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:35:52 -!- dondy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:41:27 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:43:31 -!- Tarragon is now known as Basil 06:43:55 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 06:57:10 -!- Matejii has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:01:08 -!- y2s82 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 07:11:16 -!- Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 07:11:34 how am I not dead yet 07:14:17 -!- Nivimer is now known as Nivim 07:19:41 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:20:21 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:34:38 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 07:35:30 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:38:24 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:38:53 -!- Konstantin__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43:22 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:09:50 -!- Egglet has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:11:35 -!- Sgeo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:15:27 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:20:04 -!- Ladykiller69 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:20:22 ring of magic power on djinn 18 HP? 08:30:38 -!- dondy` is now known as dondy 08:32:44 dreaming while awaken is bad :p 08:41:45 -!- ChrisOelmueller is now known as ChrisOelmuell 08:43:28 -!- ChrisOelmuell is now known as ChrisOelmueller 08:45:36 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:13 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:39 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:01:34 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 09:02:59 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 09:03:25 -!- yxhuvvd has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:04:07 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:23 <|amethyst> badplayer: zonguldrok wizlab has a floor trigger (wizard_appear_marker) bound to three different cells 09:04:34 <|amethyst> badplayer: not sure what is making it but not yours work 09:06:16 <|amethyst> badplayer: it makes the TriggerableFunction more manually rather than using function_at_spot 09:06:36 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:06:51 <|amethyst> badplayer: also, you probably want to do something so that it triggers only once 09:06:55 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:45 <|amethyst> badplayer: otherwise, consider what happens when the walls fall, then you use Fedhas rain to get water on a spot where the wall was, and step on the ! again 09:07:56 <|amethyst> badplayer: the water would be replaced by floor 09:08:59 <|amethyst> badplayer: OH, maybe your problem is that you wrote "listen_to_slave"... should be "listen_to_slaves" with a plural 09:18:00 |amethyst: that was it! thank you :) 09:19:08 Now having play tested it a couple times, I'm wondering if it's any good. It's fun the firstr coupl of times, but I'm wondering if the vault will be a chore for those that have seen it since the optimal strategy would be to kill the zombies in all of the outer rooms before stepping into the inner. 09:26:17 possibly being rare will make that ok 09:27:06 I guess it also depends how much of a difference it makes. there are a lot of portal vaults where knowing the layout helps but isn't a gamebreaking advantage 09:30:08 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:51 -!- Pedroff has quit [Client Quit] 09:31:23 -!- inspector071 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:32:50 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:29 I wonder if it'd be easier to just say "the OOD cap and mon-pick section for D should be modelled off a top of D:27 instead of D:20 so that a noticeable chunk of D:10-16 isn't arbitrarily nerfed as part of dungeon-split" 09:40:39 !seen grunt 09:40:40 I last saw Grunt at Sat Nov 30 05:47:05 2013 UTC (9h 53m 34s ago) saying '|amethyst: rip' on ##crawl. 09:42:07 got to find out fun things like pre-split basilisks a wider range than catoblepae, though 09:42:38 -!- dondy is now known as dondy|afk 09:42:54 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:44:38 -!- Cedor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:45:07 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:47:09 -!- tsohg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:50:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:56:22 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:57:28 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:01:34 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:04:22 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:09 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:41 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1193-g0c4d95b: Fix formatting. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c4d95b344f8 10:07:41 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1194-g338e2d3: Make msgwin_line_length non-static. 10(12 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 3-) 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Sandman25 as the author of the commit 10:19:29 <|amethyst> We really need targetters, or at least tracers, for the new evokers 10:20:15 <|amethyst> see #7244 and #7245 10:26:23 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:01 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:39 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:31:26 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:31:59 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:37:11 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:44:18 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 10:46:55 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1199-gb4cf04c: Trim long inscriptions in inventory, handle unicode (#5675) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4cf04c5a356 10:48:18 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:01:15 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:06:50 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:13:38 03Grunt02 07* 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monster enums on compat bump. 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 22+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=91c53af680e7 11:35:27 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1203-g3761953: Make dummy monster comments more consistent. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=376195314ee7 11:40:24 |amethyst: cßo's rebuild doesn't seem to be doing anything? 11:40:33 (I wanted to make the strawberry issue go away >_>) 11:41:34 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1203-g3761953 (34) 11:41:39 ...oh. 11:41:40 Okay. 11:41:52 what caused the strawberry fields? 11:41:53 Apparently the text just wasn't updating. 11:42:26 rchandra: I thought we had no extra ORIENT: vaults at all, but it turns out there are two that place in Lair (one of which also places in Snake). 11:43:56 and at least one of those makes a few strawberries? 11:44:00 Yes. 11:44:17 at least it wasn't explore_dammit being spammed 11:44:25 rip explore_dammit 11:44:27 <_< >_> 11:44:55 <|amethyst> I take it grunt isn't a fan of the Beatles 11:45:00 yes, ashenzari needed the penalty 11:45:20 Grunt: re "XXX: should we guarantee that all Pan levels place a panlord vault?", i'd say yeah 11:45:35 it felt like the only reason some didn't before was just an accidental quirk of how vault placement worked out 11:45:52 MarvinPA: that was my gut instinct; I wanted to fly it past everyone else first. 11:46:07 Also, the reason that was happening was at least partly on account of old extra vault handling. 11:46:10 -!- badplayer has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:47:17 Namely, Pan only ever tried to place one "pan" vault previously, no matter if it had the extra tag or not. 11:47:32 So you'd occasionally get, say, pan_surprise as the main vault on the level. 11:47:44 (Of course, the dummy balancer that commit is attached to is responsible for the rest.) 11:48:10 right 11:50:47 Xom inner flame needs a --more-- prompt by minmay 11:51:11 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 11:54:35 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14:36:54 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1205-g4fbcd77: Remove another extra space (elliptic) 10(61 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fbcd77ec7c0 14:36:56 <|amethyst> elliptic: if it was one floor you'd get "You fall through a shaft !" 14:36:58 (confirming something obvious perhaps) 14:42:46 "You fall through a shaft for 2 floors!" <- extra space 14:42:50 -!- tksquared has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:42:54 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:46:19 perhaps we should just remove all spaces 14:47:25 youmean"perhapsweshouldjustremoveallspaces" 14:47:32 indeed 14:49:00 What the hell. I didn't read the log, sorry :P 14:49:08 So it was just fixed. Hah. 14:49:38 <|amethyst> Medar: :) 14:49:39 Medar: Only YOU can prevent extra spacing 14:52:50 so many of my plans really need to not be predicated on a combination of somebody coding up place:Foo:# [9|8] and actually getting responses on expanded OOD cap / lessening Depths being a parody of late D / whatever 14:53:51 You fall through 14:53:56 a shatner. 14:54:37 <|amethyst> tenofswords: actually 14:54:54 <|amethyst> tenofswords: what's wrong with the behaviour of place:Foo:# 9 currently 14:55:03 <|amethyst> It seems to be parsed at least 14:55:23 ... 14:55:29 whoopsssssss 14:55:48 alright then, time to do some very wide edits 14:56:20 (give or take some complaining about lua) 14:56:58 <|amethyst> tenofswords: I had also assumed it wouldn't work, but apparently MONS: 8 and MONS: 9 were already implemented, and place:foo is handled as a tag so is stripped off before that point 14:58:43 <|amethyst> tenofswords: (and they affect different parts of the mons_spec object) 14:58:47 |amethyst, elliptic: did *I* screw that up or did somebody screw it up after me? 14:58:54 the shaft space thing 14:59:54 <|amethyst> %git ec5babf52 14:59:55 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1152-gec5babf: Restrict mpr() to literals only. 10(2 days ago, 26 files, 66+ 66-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec5babf52457 15:00:30 kilobyte screwed it up somehow? 15:00:50 <|amethyst> yes, also the water splashing thing N78291 reported and I fixed earlier 15:01:36 kilobyte: bad kilobyte! 15:01:51 * SamB pulls and looks at that 15:02:36 <|amethyst> those look like the only two problematic cases 15:02:49 <|amethyst> the others already had the space in the frame string rather than the part 15:04:55 ??storm dragon armour 15:04:55 storm dragon armour[1/1]: 10AC, 17ER, 60aum, rElec. 15:05:01 ??plate 15:05:02 plate armour[1/1]: 10AC, 19ER, 65.0aum. 15:05:45 wrong channel, or are you suggesting to buff storm dragon armour 15:06:22 Oh wrong channel 15:06:27 But that might be a good idea I guess 15:08:03 hmm, so basically it's plate of rElec but slightly lighter and more comfortable? 15:08:41 well, the actual weight is pretty irrelevant 15:08:47 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:08:52 hmm 15:08:54 ??fda 15:08:54 fire dragon armour[1/1]: 8AC, 11ER, 35aum, rF++ rC-. 15:09:03 but yes, it is plate of rElec that is less encumbering (and plate of rElec doesn't exist normally) 15:09:39 plate of rElec much later than other ego plate, though 15:09:45 -!- ddeaeeee has quit [Client Quit] 15:10:00 could make it 16ER 15:10:18 maybe even 15 would be fine 15:10:34 sounds good to me 15:11:25 At that point it would be and alternative to FDA if you want to free up a ring slot 15:11:49 I'd probably still go with FDA though 15:12:39 <|amethyst> the difference between -11 (fire) and -15 (storm) is bigger than the difference between -15 and -19 (plate) 15:12:51 <|amethyst> err, -15 (proposed storm) 15:13:15 hmm 15:13:26 ??enc 15:13:26 I don't have a page labeled enc in my learndb. 15:13:29 ??encumbrance 15:13:30 encumbrance rating[1/1]: A number representing how much armour harms your spellcasting, dodging, and melee accuracy. Units are "arbitrary units of encumbrance" (aue). 15:14:36 |amethyst: bigger in what sense? 15:15:01 <|amethyst> I thought the formula used encumbrance^2 15:15:10 <|amethyst> now I'm not finding it though 15:15:12 proportionally yes, additively no 15:15:13 it does 15:15:20 Wouldn't that mean it's greater the other way? 15:15:23 19^2 - 15^2 > 15^2 - 11^2 15:15:47 <|amethyst> yeah, I mean proportionally 15:15:59 <|amethyst> (19/15)^2 vs (15/11)^2 15:16:05 <|amethyst> sorry 15:16:12 anyway I'm not sure why that comparison is being made :) 15:16:35 <|amethyst> I dunno 15:16:36 currently storm dragon armour is meant to appeal to players who would normally look for plate but want rElec 15:16:49 unfortunately it appears late and rElec isn't very important really 15:17:06 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:17:10 Spawn storm dragons earlier clearly 15:17:22 put raiju in Depths 15:17:44 decreasing the encumbrance would make it an option for casty chars who are willing to accept the extra penalty for higher AC 15:17:53 make vapours have thunderbolt and then spawn them quite a ways more in Swamp 15:18:09 Do raiju hurt? 15:18:22 potentially yes, but they're fragile 15:18:24 raiju (12h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 5 | HP: 18-37 | AC/EV: 4/15 | Dam: 1211(elec:5-6) | 05demonic, sense invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(20), 11elec+++, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 151 | Sp: blinkbolt (2d13) | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 15:18:24 %??raiju 15:18:25 I was fooling around in Abyss and they were annoying more than painful 15:18:29 <|amethyst> elliptic: so it's like PDA with a better resist and actually existin? 15:18:33 <|amethyst> g 15:18:48 mmm 15:18:48 <|amethyst> elliptic: s/it's/it would be/ 15:18:51 |amethyst: I'm not sure it is a better resist, and PDA is still quite a bit less encumbering 15:18:52 Drain is really annoying so 15:19:00 rN is at least a convenience 15:19:18 at any rate they're meant to be smoke demon tier danger so if they're not always outright terrors this is acceptable 15:19:21 |amethyst: so I think it would still be comfortably worse than PDA, which is fine :) 15:19:45 <|amethyst> elliptic: are you going to commit the change or should I? 15:20:10 I can do this one :) 15:20:15 I should get back to gauntlet so there are some more tiny chances to find pearl dragons and be [killed by them|get pda] 15:21:51 I had one in depths earlier, it certainly made for an interesting floor 15:22:29 huh 15:22:36 I like the idea of more tiny chances for them, my $.02 15:22:38 Depths didn't seem all that bad 15:22:43 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:22:50 But if it can spawn pearl dragons that might be ungood 15:23:08 there's a single vault, and gauntlet is a portal vault I'm working on 15:23:31 <|amethyst> is shadow dragon armour a will-never-do? could make it similar to steam or mottled, but with LOS reduction as the "resistance" 15:23:52 <|amethyst> I guess that would make the upper end of LOS reduction even more ridiculous though 15:24:00 03elliptic02 07* 0.14-a0-1206-g1e49a1b: Decrease encumbrance for StormDA: 17 -> 15. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e49a1b77a89 15:24:02 clearly give pearl dragon armour rHoly 15:24:26 Perfect for undead ziggers 15:24:33 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 15:25:23 |amethyst: I don't really think LOS reduction as a "common" item is great, and it would infringe on robe of night 15:25:24 <|amethyst> oh, never mind, robe of night is a robe not a cloak 15:25:29 -!- mightywind has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:25:30 (also actually make holy wrath / cleansing flame cloud / cleansing flame attack / tso revenge attack / silver star / whatever) all consistent 15:26:00 <|amethyst> elliptic: true 15:27:07 maybe it could have some attributes associated with the undead, rMut, rRot, something to that effect? 15:27:42 rMut armour 15:27:52 That sounds snazzy 15:28:02 rMut armour is clearly from apocalypse drake armour 15:28:14 I still want shadow dragon shields 15:29:22 i still want my komodo dragon hat 15:29:56 now I realize that bh wanted to buff callers in a terrifying fashion 15:31:29 -!- gammafunk has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:36:20 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:29 03Medar02 07* 0.14-a0-1207-ge1f20ff: Fix a crash in equip_name_to_slot 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1f20ff6039d 15:39:09 Grunt: ehm, how exactly a dummy for "extra" vaults could possibly work? 15:39:35 the definition of "extra" is "don't stop after adding this vault" 15:39:46 ie, a dummy extra is a no-op 15:39:58 <|amethyst> %git e4f847d5 15:39:58 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-1183-ge4f847d: Rework the "extra" tag for non-minivaults. 10(21 hours ago, 5 files, 72+ 36-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4f847d599ab 15:40:12 <|amethyst> kilobyte: that isn't the case anmore for non-minivaults 15:41:38 if the semantics differs, the tag needs to be renamed 15:45:14 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:45:19 -!- UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:46:14 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:46:29 <|amethyst> kilobyte: the semantics of minivaults and non-mini already differ, so it's not entirely outrageous 15:47:04 Looks like SIGHUP doesn't close wizard mode lua intepreter. 15:47:18 * tenofswords curses grunt for regularly using MONS: [098] band 15:47:41 Or something makes it crash when you close webtiles window when using that anyway. 15:49:18 elliptic: have you fixed qw when it gets turned to a tree? This was rare with wands of poly, but potions of lignify quite change that. 15:50:07 (I'm abusing qw as something that realistically approximates CPU loads that happen in real games) 15:51:32 -!- eweeeeee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:51:42 qw relies on autoexplore, autotravel and autofight just like players do, greensnark's idea of resting in the sprint or my abyss bot instead stress nearly completely different parts of the code 15:57:27 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06:15 kilobyte: hm, it already has checks in some places to make sure it isn't transformed before doing things, and it used to ID wands of polymorph by zapping on itself and seemed to handle that okay 16:06:45 I'm sure there are some checks that should be added though... I only really added stuff when they came up 16:07:11 anyway I haven't changed qw at all since it won that game (at some point I'll probably go back to it and teach it to play other combos) 16:07:45 qw won?! congrats. guess it's time for all enemies to get double damage 16:08:08 ??qw 16:08:09 qw[1/2]: A fully automated lua bot written by elliptic, with some code borrowed from parabolic and xw. Won once (with minor manual bugfixing in Lair to make it not choose a -Tele weapon). 16:08:42 !lg qw won 16:08:43 1. qw the Executioner (L27 GrBe), worshipper of Trog, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-11-22 23:33:04, with 1851235 points after 56797 turns and 0:45:16. 16:08:46 (anyway I tweaked Gr's power level down a bit after that, though I'm sure qw is still capable of winning with enough tries) 16:09:51 (I wonder if my patch will be rejected due to (slightly) weakening so many Depths vaults) 16:14:05 so that qw win was fully automated, with the only human control being that instant in lair? 16:14:34 and no need to hold down a key or anything like that? 16:14:39 it was more than an instant because I was debugging and didn't get the bug right away, but yeah 16:14:41 perhaps it was suspended, the code tweaked, and restarted 16:15:12 elliptic: I've seen two related failures: 1. trying to travel (or was it explore?), 2. trying to berserk and failing with a panic message 16:15:15 he needed a reproducer 16:15:32 oh, I also saved and reloaded to fix something in the siren sewer earlier in that game 16:15:57 but without making any actual turns 16:16:07 so, since he wouldn't dare to do something so cheaty as copy its save file off-server ... 16:16:10 elliptic: Can you interrupt it at any time through the qw login? 16:16:14 how many attempts did it take in its current state? 16:16:24 I can't just !lg qw because I know that old versions of the bot died a lot 16:16:25 evilmike: yeah, it's all powered by ready(), so you press tab at turn 0 and it takes off 16:16:43 gammafunk: you can interrupt it by pressing tab again, yeah 16:16:45 qw's reproducibility seems to be extremely vulnerable to minute changes in code, apparently more than the Abyss bot 16:16:48 cool 16:17:07 TAB = autocrawl 16:17:12 in terms of number of attempts... 16:17:14 !lg qw 16:17:15 very appropriate 16:17:15 163. qw the Executioner (L27 GrBe), worshipper of Trog, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-11-22 23:33:04, with 1851235 points after 56797 turns and 0:45:16. 16:17:24 still a better win rate than many humans 16:17:28 but for both, you can expect -seed runs to go out of sync every a few commits 16:17:29 the first 101 games were with a very primitive version 16:17:36 and then there was a big upgrade after that 16:17:41 and then several more upgrades 16:17:42 most humans who play crawl never win, so yes 16:17:45 (at least I think so) 16:18:12 qw does the early game better than me, at least 16:18:29 ??qw[2] 16:18:29 qw[2/2]: Branch order: D -> Lair:8 -> Orc:3 -> D:16 -> Snake/Spider:5 -> Vaults:4 -> Depths:6 -> Swamp/Shoals:5 -> Vaults:5 -> Zot 16:18:33 (many of the games with the very primitive version didn't even know how to enter branches and stuff like that, and item usage was almost 0) 16:18:51 oh, that branch order is a bit out of date 16:19:10 !learn edit qw[2] s|Snake.Spider|S 16:19:11 qw[2/2]: Branch order: D -> Lair:8 -> Orc:3 -> D:16 -> S:5 -> Vaults:4 -> Depths:6 -> Swamp/Shoals:5 -> Vaults:5 -> Zot 16:19:21 !learn edit qw[2] s|Swamp.Shoals|S 16:19:22 qw[2/2]: Branch order: D -> Lair:8 -> Orc:3 -> D:16 -> S:5 -> Vaults:4 -> Depths:6 -> S:5 -> Vaults:5 -> Zot 16:19:22 next we need a mage crawl botâ€¦..called zz 16:19:25 no orc:4? I suppose without the player lua being able to access gold there was no value to the shops 16:19:33 I would expect the following declaration to create a mummy half the time, and Menkaure half the time, but it seems to be generating Menkaure every time: KMONS: M = Menkaure, mummy w:50 / mummy w:50 16:19:39 tenofswords: shops are really hard to handle with lua, yeah 16:19:41 what is the proper way to express what I'm trying? 16:19:49 flip the clauses 16:19:55 does cßo have a recent version of qw? 16:19:58 or um 16:20:09 KMONS: M = Menkaure / mummy, mummy 16:20:22 really? 16:20:24 kilobyte: cszo trunk qw is the version that won, and I don't have any changes since then 16:20:34 yeah, the / is for the set choices 16:20:35 that will also create a mummy if Menkaure has already been seen elsewhere? 16:20:41 I think you grabbed it after it won so you probably already have it 16:20:46 yes, if menkaure is made then it goes to the comma 16:20:48 yeah, I did 16:21:02 -!- Wahaha has quit [] 16:21:14 for completeness sake, how would I express that if I wanted Mankaure 1/3 of the time? 16:21:21 KMONS: M = Menkaure w:5 / mummy, mummy 16:21:38 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1208-g6b0f1e8: Throw the gauntlets. 10(22 hours ago, 9 files, 7+ 47-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b0f1e84ca5c 16:21:42 default weight is 10 16:21:56 (that should be engrained into everybody's brains eventually) 16:21:58 oh I thought w was percentage 16:22:03 kilobyte: throw *down* the guantlets? 16:22:09 %git 7f8b6d85697774a182b3f40aca21e2286d5c32a3 16:22:09 07kilobyte02 * 0.6.0-a0-2000-g7f8b6d8: Cosmetic desc of gloves: 50% of them will be "gauntlets", 0% "bracers". 10(4 years, 1 month ago, 5 files, 46+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f8b6d856977 16:22:12 w:5 would mean 5% of the time ... how was I wrong 16:22:12 throw out the gauntlets 16:22:35 awkwardly throw the gauntlets 16:22:36 sorry for getting us into the mess in the first place :/ 16:22:41 <|amethyst> badplayer: w: is relative weight. Default is 10 16:22:50 oh, btw, can we kill bracers too? 16:22:52 badplayer: the default weight is 10, so weight of 5 mean 2:1 16:22:57 for something with weight 10 16:23:18 I understand that bracers and gloves are not the same thing but surely gloves of archery would work too 16:23:19 e.g. 5/ (10 + 5) 16:23:39 the final chance is the weight divided by the sum of all other weights in the set 16:23:48 "bracers of archery" is redundant anyway, only archers wear bracers in the first place, that's what they're for 16:24:12 kilobyte: Any thoughts on my patch to the asterion branch? I fixed the three issues you pointed out 16:24:14 ??logic 16:24:14 logic[1/1]: jiyva chooses the option with minimum felicity 16:24:26 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 16:24:32 ??felicity 16:24:32 I don't have a page labeled felicity in my learndb. 16:24:34 for simplicity sake, if all of your weights add up to 100 then, you can still kind of express this as percentages? eg: goblin w:80 / troll w:20 would be goblin 80% of the time, and troll 20% of the time? 16:24:35 too bad 16:24:50 <|amethyst> badplayer: right 16:24:50 badplayer: if you like 16:24:51 yes, that works 16:25:02 yah it's easier for simpler minds like mine :) 16:25:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:25:27 note that if I notice it in a patch I'd just make that MONS: goblin w:4 / troll w:1 anyway 16:25:50 reading: a goblin is 4 times more likely than a troll. 16:26:00 correct 16:26:23 -!- evilmike has quit [] 16:26:30 an issue to watch out when you want --seed reproducibility: "qw3's ghost hits you. You die..." 16:26:59 <|amethyst> kilobyte: just put it in wizard mode :) 16:27:13 curses, I was just about to ask about this patch doing per depth 9 = absdepth 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 and 8 = absdepth 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14 16:27:14 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:28:01 -!- wack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:28:04 (as opposed to 9 = 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 8 = 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14) 16:28:23 kilobyte: you've probably already tried this, but wizard mode qw automatically declines to die when prompted 16:28:42 which is sort of useful for making sure you get the entire game 16:30:14 (it can still get stuck in a couple ways though) 16:30:42 water/lava in coc:7/geh:7? 16:32:01 tenofswords: if you mean qw, it doesn't currently go to all branches (though it could with some work), but it has permaflight from XL 14 onwards so water/lava aren't an issue 16:32:47 oh right hah 16:33:03 mainly it doesn't have good handling of disconnected levels (or shafts before it gets permaflight) 16:33:19 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:33:19 it'd get lost in slime? 16:33:38 and I doubt it'd know to dig for the slimy rune I guess 16:33:42 -!- gammafunk has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:33:43 -!- gammafunk_ is now known as gammafunk 16:34:06 basically it doesn't know about "go up and try another downstairs", instead it tries to random teleport somewhere better 16:34:15 hehehe 16:34:53 this works surprisingly well but sometimes it runs out of teleport 16:35:27 surely if it was told to use a ring of teleportation... 16:35:29 I suspect it can also get into situations where it will just keep on dying forever without making progress 16:35:52 -!- darktwinge is now known as Twinge 16:36:07 -!- Twinge has quit [] 16:36:08 e.g. draconian caller behind grates spamming summons 16:36:23 it will just keep on fighting the summons forever 16:36:40 -!- Brokkr has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:36:43 good thing the summons are at least capped 16:36:49 Add an osuary vault by badplayer 16:36:49 is it possible to query monster attributes in lua? for instance could qw ever determine that a pan lord is fast? 16:36:56 -!- Staplegun has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:37:10 qw actually doesn't have any good way of telling whether a monster is a pan lord at the moment 16:37:13 afaik 16:38:15 oh, it just looks at the mpr messages and sees "baldsdf comes into view"? 16:40:00 no, it can tell for each square in sight whether there is a monster there and what the name of the monster is 16:40:01 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:09 also a couple other things like whether the monster is friendly 16:40:52 yeah, I see check_monsters() 16:41:18 hmm 16:41:38 this seems like an API problem 16:41:47 heh, m:is_firewood() 16:41:57 love some of those method names 16:42:56 it's supposed to be something you could kill but have no motivation to bother with 16:43:08 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 16:43:19 except possibly wanting to go past it 16:44:23 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:44:41 elliptic: say("ZAPPING HEAL WOUNNS."), not that it matters much 16:46:45 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:47:17 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:46 -!- UseBees_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52:25 ...hrm, DOWN in random-pick.h probably doesn't equate to rarity * 2520 * (maxr - depth + 1) / (maxr - minr + 1) if it means that { 1, 3, 999, DOWN, MONS_UGLY_THING }, equates to -2517480 on Depths:1 16:53:01 and here my spreadsheets looked hypothetically fine on other distributions 16:54:34 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:04 <|amethyst> tenofswords: how'd you get a negative sign in there? 16:56:29 I have no idea 16:57:16 was there overflow? 16:57:32 I doubt excel is _that_ bad 16:57:44 oh, this was in your spreedsheet not in crawl? 16:57:47 <|amethyst> shouldn't be, 2520 * 999 * 3 = 7552440 16:58:02 I believe excel is differently bad 16:58:06 <|amethyst> maxr and minr aren't swapped are they? (though that would give you a different number) 16:58:21 going to throw it into google docs 16:58:23 since I think it abuses floating-point numbers so shouldn't overflow that way 16:59:57 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:03:35 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 17:03:42 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-1209-g586b741: Remove a reference to searching in the rest command description. 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=586b741d49aa 17:03:42 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-1210-g2fe4a5d: Add a missing tag. 10(34 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fe4a5dcccb0 17:03:42 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-1211-ga3da613: Tutorial improvements to french translation. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 295+ 318-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3da61382222 17:04:02 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:07:47 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:21 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:39 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:20:35 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:07 ...oh man, I can't even start this because ABS doesn't work in google docs or something 17:31:55 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:05 I just got "1995 theorb" as a captcha. Just sayin' 17:32:52 guardian serpent (16S) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 30-58 | AC/EV: 6/14 | Dam: 26 | spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(64), 03poison | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 458 | Sp: b.venom (3d13), b.slow, w.recall, blink allies encircling | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 17:32:52 %??guardian serpent 17:33:19 ...okay I don't even anything anymore, I've barely bothered to apply the formulas and glowing shapeshifters have a 154.77% to be chosen as a Depths:1 enemy (ignoring ood) 17:33:31 1995 was the year crawl began 17:33:53 buppy: yeah man, it's like ReCatpcha was Re-reading my mind 17:34:39 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AjXhStQL2U2fdHc2LWswckVoZUhnT3Y2Qzk3OFMzaVE&output=html 17:36:07 <|amethyst> tenofswords: how do I see the formulas? 17:36:21 ...it doesn't let you??? 17:36:46 try https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjXhStQL2U2fdHc2LWswckVoZUhnT3Y2Qzk3OFMzaVE&usp=sharing I guess 17:36:46 |amethyst: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AjXhStQL2U2fdHc2LWswckVoZUhnT3Y2Qzk3OFMzaVE&gid=1 17:37:09 <|amethyst> those are spreadsheet formulas? 17:37:49 U3: D3 * 2520 * (B3 - U2 + 1) / (B3 - C3 + 1) 17:38:03 <|amethyst> tenofswords: B3 and C3 are backwards 17:38:06 <|amethyst> C3 is maxr 17:38:10 ...whoops 17:38:58 it looks like minmay is working on the tavern troll award 17:39:25 <|amethyst> tenofswords: I'd use D$3 * 2520 * (C$3 - $U2 + 1) / (C$3 - B$3 + 1) 17:39:37 <|amethyst> tenofswords: then you should be able to copy-paste it across the whole grid 17:39:58 so many thanks 17:40:12 !lg * killer=raiju 17:40:12 12. JJ4000 the Markscentaur (L13 CeHu), worshipper of Okawaru, slain by a raiju on Abyss:1 on 2013-11-30 09:40:33, with 45653 points after 20747 turns and 3:33:42. 17:40:15 !lg * killer=raiju max=xl 17:40:16 12. tsouns the Phalangite (L17 MiIE), worshipper of Trog, blasted by a raiju (living lightning) on Abyss:3 on 2013-11-20 06:28:51, with 176154 points after 39017 turns and 2:30:59. 17:40:21 !lg * killer=raiju -tv 17:40:22 12. JJ4000, XL13 CeHu, T:20747 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 17:40:23 !lg * killer=raiju -tv -2 17:40:24 11/12. Erlik, XL1 DjAK, T:54 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 17:40:24 !lg * killer=raiju -tv -3 17:40:25 10/12. Baljet, XL1 DsAK, T:95 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 17:40:30 !lg * killer=raiju 1 17:40:32 1/12. Someone4956 the Skirmisher (L1 DjAK), worshipper of Lugonu, slain by a raiju on Abyss:1 on 2013-11-19 22:12:29, with 0 points after 108 turns and 0:00:24. 17:40:33 <|amethyst> err, I guess that should be U$2 not $U2 17:40:44 <|amethyst> I had those all backward 17:41:02 <|amethyst> $D3 * 2520 * ($C3 - U$2 + 1) / ($C3 - $B3 + 1) 17:41:09 !lg * killer=smoke demon end>20131118 17:41:09 No keyword 'demon' 17:41:13 !lg * killer=smoke_demon end>20131118 17:41:14 26. gammafunk the Magician (L6 DEIE), blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) on Abyss:1 on 2013-11-30 20:08:19, with 662 points after 2301 turns and 0:14:48. 17:41:36 !lg * killer=smoke_demon end>20131118 xl>2 17:41:37 15. gammafunk the Magician (L6 DEIE), blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) on Abyss:1 on 2013-11-30 20:08:19, with 662 points after 2301 turns and 0:14:48. 17:41:41 stupid summons miscast 17:41:43 !lg * killer=raiju end>20131118 xl>2 17:41:44 5. JJ4000 the Markscentaur (L13 CeHu), worshipper of Okawaru, slain by a raiju on Abyss:1 on 2013-11-30 09:40:33, with 45653 points after 20747 turns and 3:33:42. 17:41:58 I was afraid they'd be too vicious but clearly they need a buff 17:41:59 <|amethyst> tenofswords: sorry, got my rows and columns mixed :) 17:42:11 -!- myrmidette1 has quit [Client Quit] 17:42:12 tenofswords: would you gnash your teeth if boggarts got MAINTAIN_DISTANCE? 17:42:32 -!- myrmidette1 has quit [Client Quit] 17:42:33 raiju kill themselves by lightning bolting into lava apparently 17:42:35 boggarts are perfect as-is 17:42:41 boggart (06g) | Spd: 12 | HD: 2 | HP: 6-16 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(18) | XP: 21 | Sp: confuse, b.slow, invisibility, blink, shadow creatures | Sz: little | Int: normal. 17:42:41 %??boggart 17:42:42 and that sounds like a terrible idea yes 17:42:46 unknown monster: "elf demonologist" 17:42:46 %??elf demonologist 17:42:54 let raiju levitate or something 17:42:56 deep elf demonologist (08e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 42-66 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(96) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1340 | Sp: demon, banishment, greater demon, minor demon | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 17:42:56 %??deep elf demonologist 17:42:57 deep elf demonologist (08e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 42-66 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(96) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1340 | Sp: demon, banishment, greater demon, minor demon | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 17:42:57 %??deep_elf_demonologist 17:43:03 they're air monsters, after all 17:43:17 raiju (12h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 5 | HP: 18-37 | AC/EV: 4/15 | Dam: 1211(elec:5-6) | 05demonic, sense invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(20), 11elec+++, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 151 | Sp: blinkbolt (2d13) | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 17:43:17 %??Raiju 17:43:19 tenofswords: sure, they're your baby 17:43:29 smoke demon (153) | Spd: 9 | HD: 7 | HP: 25-51 | AC/EV: 5/9 | Dam: 8, 5, 5 | 05demonic, 10doors, lev, !sil | Res: 06magic(56), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 389 | Sp: sticky flame range (3d4), steam ball (3d12), smiting (7-17) | Sz: small | Int: normal. 17:43:29 %??smoke demon 17:43:44 is that what they replace 17:43:57 Yes 17:43:58 (this will also let me replace vapours in aerie_drop with raiju) 17:44:04 thanks 17:44:10 i appreciate that a lot 17:44:20