00:00:05 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:00:30 heh, the options_guide mentions Pr 00:00:49 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13.0-67-g7ee5eca 00:03:42 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:55 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:06:08 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-1110-g7149c53 (34) 00:06:50 -!- eb has quit [] 00:07:10 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1110-g7149c53 (34) 00:08:21 -!- Croesus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:08:57 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:11:27 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13.0-67-g7ee5eca (34) 00:12:14 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 00:14:46 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:16:26 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:16:26 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 00:16:26 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:24 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1110-g7149c53 (34) 00:23:07 -!- Helmschank has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:23:40 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:26:17 -!- conted_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:27:28 ??devwiki 00:27:29 dev wiki[1/1]: The dev wiki (to discuss changes and additions): https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start 00:30:46 random question 00:31:01 how do I grab the source off of git? I know there's a certain program I need to use and there's a walkthrough on what to do on the wiki, but I'm not certain how to do it 00:31:50 this is important for reasons 00:31:56 see http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/downloads and the section on getting the source 00:32:01 thanks 00:32:43 !source quickstart.txt 00:32:44 Couldn't open current/source/quickstart.txt for reading 00:33:14 http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=blob_plain;f=crawl-ref/docs/develop/git/quickstart.txt 00:33:15 thanks 00:33:17 !source xom.h 00:33:18 brb 00:33:19 Lines pasted to http://pastie.org/8511649 00:33:29 #include "ouch.h" 00:33:31 I love xom 00:34:18 misc.cc and stuff.cc, skills.cc and skills2.cc 00:34:24 the wonderfile source filenames of crawl 00:34:29 ugh 00:34:47 *wonderful 00:34:58 skills2 is the best 00:35:12 Skills II: The Skillening 00:35:27 gamma: at least it doesn't look like this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7671517 00:35:35 I will learn C one of these days and I hope I can help out... I actually enjoy refactoring and debt removal ... it's very zen-like. 00:35:47 badplayer: what languages do you know? 00:36:03 In order of strength: Java then Perl. 00:36:13 badplayer: if you manage to achieve a zen-like state with crawl I will be impressed 00:36:21 baby steps... 00:36:25 badplayer: if you know Java, you basically know C 00:36:29 it's Java without classes 00:36:40 C has all of the memory management cruft that I hear can bog you down. 00:37:06 installing git; should I choose openssh or tortoiseplink 00:37:08 hmm, do we have a single malloc call in our code? 00:37:29 I've seen plenty of "classless" java ... just a bunch of static helper utilities with incestuous architecture ... 00:37:52 Lightli: well do you know how to configure plink or openssh yet? 00:37:59 -!- jason55 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:37:59 no 00:38:17 plink is the one that comes with the PuTTY suite if that's not obvious 00:38:19 SamB: We do have some free(), don't we? 00:38:22 -!- Thurston has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:38:27 which one is easier for a newbie 00:38:43 gammafunk: presumably 00:38:57 well, openssh is more unixy 00:39:01 Yeah, I do see some malloc in various files, but not much 00:39:41 why do you need ssh to get crawl source? 00:39:43 I don't know if any of you are Java developers, but I've found that a good dependency injection framework like Google's Guice makes code refactoring and debt reduction much easier. Does C have a similar framework? 00:39:51 wheals: you don't need it to GET crawl source 00:39:59 I just want to poke around in it 00:40:00 but it helps if you want to push code somewhere 00:40:09 but you do need it to commit it to e.g. gitorious 00:40:25 (basically, via the magical power of copy-paste, I made a Druid class and want to see if I made it work right without everything breaking) 00:40:55 (it LOOKS like it'll work, but better to check now than have people mock me later) 00:41:12 oh wow that's something you'll definitely want to test locally. 00:42:00 what is a class? What makes your druid interesting, or necessary? 00:42:14 class is also called background; e.g. DK, Be 00:43:00 it starts with Fedhas 00:43:15 Anyways, got the gui up, now what 00:43:54 wait nevermind 00:46:39 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1110-g7149c53 00:47:22 ??git 00:47:22 git[1/2]: Readonly: git clone git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git Read/Write: git@gitorious.org:crawl/crawl.git Web interface: http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git or http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl 00:48:26 zzz 00:50:53 the things I will do when bored, huh 00:54:27 -!- jason55 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:55:28 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13.0-67-g7ee5eca 00:57:38 ok, how do I compile 00:57:44 make 00:58:09 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:59:20 it says "command not found" 01:00:31 what do 01:00:38 what's your system? 01:01:00 windows 01:01:19 I navigated to crawl-ref already 01:02:16 Everything has been changed, just need to compile and test to see if everything works (which it probably won't) 01:02:30 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:03:23 Lightli: also go into source 01:03:36 in source now 01:03:50 that's where you type make 01:04:26 sh.exe": make: command not found 01:04:45 oh dear 01:05:27 clearly this means crawl can no longer be compiled and that development has ended 01:05:48 no, I think it means you didn't install msysgit or something 01:05:59 ??msysgit 01:05:59 I don't have a page labeled msysgit in my learndb. 01:06:02 not that I did or anything, but then I already had an msys install lying around 01:06:17 ...but I did 01:06:50 version 1.8.4 01:07:24 so where's your make? 01:07:44 weird 01:08:16 what do 01:09:35 you used the netinstall, right? 01:09:53 not the "full installer"? 01:10:07 netinstall? 01:10:21 what was the name of the installer file 01:10:37 Git-1.8.4-preview20130916 01:10:46 I'm going to assume that's where I messed up 01:11:40 http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/downloads/list 01:11:51 looks like you took the first thing on that page 01:12:05 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:25 oh 01:12:26 try running "/share/msysGit/initialize.sh " 01:12:36 that should install everything it missed, maybe 01:13:52 nope 01:14:04 doesn't exist 01:14:22 should I just uninstall and reinstall? 01:15:21 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:15:22 i guess so, but make sure not to destroy the files you changed in the crawl source ;) 01:15:35 http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/downloads/detail?name=msysGit-netinstall-1.8.4-preview20130916.exe&can=2&q= 01:15:48 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:15:49 ^^^ that is the thing you probably want 01:16:09 thanks 01:16:15 np 01:18:33 assuming I didn't mess up my "coding", I'll be done with this mess by 3 01:20:00 uh 01:20:16 how long does it take to access the master branch? 01:21:14 nm there we go 01:24:26 ...this looks like it'll be a while 01:36:29 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:39:19 hello? 01:39:21 Anyone still here? 01:40:36 wheals: It installed and still won't make 01:40:44 Now it says no make file exists 01:40:47 uh 01:40:57 are you sure you are in the source/ folder 01:41:05 yes 01:41:09 can't make from the crawl-ref one 01:41:43 is there a file named "Makefile" in the directory? 01:42:23 yes 01:42:41 that's really weird, that it can't see the file 01:43:07 try "make -f Makefile 01:43:17 remove that quotation mark 01:43:25 nope 01:43:31 what does it say? 01:43:51 it says the 'pcre' directory exists, but the makefile is missing 01:44:05 and something about submodule updates 01:45:15 yeah you have to run git submodule init 01:45:24 from the source top level 01:45:35 that will download the submodule repositories 01:45:49 yeah 01:45:53 thanks 01:45:59 now make? 01:46:09 well, what happened? 01:46:12 if should have downloaded them 01:46:20 same error 01:46:30 git submodule update 01:46:31 try that 01:48:00 it's doing something now 01:48:45 all of this time just to get to the point that I can actually compile 01:49:00 you won't have to do most of these steps from now on though 01:49:14 next time it's git pull to get the updates 01:49:18 and e.g. make 01:49:22 to compile the updated source 01:49:24 thanks 01:49:44 and there we go it's finally making 01:50:01 did you use the flags to enable tiles? 01:50:16 no 01:50:17 your make command should be more than just "make" 01:50:23 you'll get a console version 01:50:26 unless that's what you want 01:50:29 yup 01:50:31 I want console 01:50:37 !lg Lightli s=tiles 01:50:38 2191 games for Lightli: 2182x false, 9x true 01:50:43 ok, you're fine then 01:50:57 I've played on tiles before? 01:51:00 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 01:51:09 dear god I must have been really bad back then 01:51:09 !lg . s=tiles 01:51:10 933 games for gammafunk: 754x false, 179x true 01:51:17 !lg * s=tiles 01:51:18 at, the days of HEFi and OpTm 01:51:19 2737108 games for *: 1799815x false, 937293x true 01:56:31 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:00:25 -!- ac13 has quit [Quit: ac13] 02:02:31 -!- Sequell has quit [Quit: Sequell] 02:09:15 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:10:05 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:17:20 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:23:39 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:23:43 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:26:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: BRB, DEAD] 02:27:03 !lg . s=tiles 02:27:27 oh darn he's gone 02:27:27 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:27:41 Lightli: you killed him! 02:32:01 you killed Sequell! You bastard! 02:33:05 actually it seems n1000 used him a lot closer to the time of death 02:36:07 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:40:46 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 02:41:48 at the exact time of death to be precise 02:42:01 at least according to my timestamps 02:44:21 -!- TZer0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:47:10 I think it might have been my scores query that killed sequell 02:47:21 though I did a lot of similar queries in pm with no problem... 02:47:45 -!- jason55 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:48:46 you can join my club, people who might have crashed ##crawl services 02:48:53 hellban the sequell murderer! 02:49:15 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:49:19 my query was the last one on fightclub before it broke for a few weeks :) 02:49:41 CREDITS.txt status is enough for me 02:50:24 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:52:01 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:57:06 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:59:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:29 -!- cptwinky has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:05:12 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:20:03 -!- Palyth has quit [] 03:23:38 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 03:28:10 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:35:02 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:39:07 -!- MP2E has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:00:28 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:02:15 -!- sprort has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 04:02:32 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:04:00 -!- ark_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:07:09 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:09:35 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:13:08 -!- Matejii has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:13:40 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 04:13:51 please kill me 04:14:53 why are ogre mages trated as special case for spell definition? 04:22:54 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:30:14 ogre mage (06O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 38-71 | AC/EV: 1/7 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 924 | Sp: haste other, crystal spear (3d28), blink, b.fire (3d18), b.cold (3d18), 04esc:minor healing (2d5) / haste other, mystic blast (3d15), invisibility, confuse, b.slow, 04esc:teleport self / haste other, paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d17), confuse, 04esc:teleport self / haste other, sting (d10), blink, b.lightning (3d17), banishment, 04esc:minor healing (2d5) / haste other, throw flame (3d8), invisibility, teleport other, fireball (3d19) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 04:30:14 <|amethyst> %??ogre mage 04:30:34 <|amethyst> Cedor: because they (like Wizards) have multiple possible spell lists 04:30:45 oh 04:30:48 fuck 04:31:14 forgot they were based on wizards... 04:31:33 i'm tempted to add spell books for them 04:32:11 <|amethyst> You mean MST_OGRE_MAGE_I etc that are clones of MST_WIZARD_I ? 04:32:17 yep 04:32:22 <|amethyst> why? 04:32:35 to avoid special cases in source 04:33:06 wel.. 04:33:12 <|amethyst> that adds a special case 04:33:38 <|amethyst> because instead of having ogre magi and wizards in the same branch of the case in mons_spellbook_list, they'd have two different branches 04:33:46 <|amethyst> s/the case/the switch/ 04:34:04 hum 04:37:44 on the other side whe have 2 place where this special case is handled (mon_load_spell, et _monster_spell_description) 04:39:08 <|amethyst> mon_load_spell is what you're writing? 04:39:17 nop 04:39:31 the function that load actual spells in monster class 04:39:36 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 04:40:16 <|amethyst> ohhh 04:40:17 <|amethyst> I see 04:40:24 <|amethyst> I forgot about the Haste Other thing 04:40:25 _mon_load_spell in mon-util 04:40:32 this was my problem 04:40:34 <|amethyst> _mons_load_spells 04:40:41 <|amethyst> that's why I wasn't finding it 04:40:43 <|amethyst> then yes 04:40:45 sorry 04:40:49 ok 04:40:50 <|amethyst> They probably should be separate lists 04:41:00 i'll make a short patch then 04:42:43 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:55:31 <|amethyst> TZer0: ololoev's game may be stuck: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9734 04:57:06 <|amethyst> TZer0: actually, maybe not; it only shows 5 minutes idle, so maybe they got in after making that post 04:57:52 <|amethyst> TZer0: never mind, e's playing 05:01:13 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:01:16 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Quitting] 05:01:41 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 05:20:59 -!- Konstantin__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:21:00 -!- Konstantin___ is now known as Konstantin__ 05:28:07 -!- CedorDark has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:48 -!- Cedor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:30:51 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:30:56 -!- randomizr is now known as RZX 05:47:50 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:49:09 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:59:07 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:05:39 -!- Implojin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:14:36 is there a reason to not show the base damage of thrown weapons? 06:19:07 <|amethyst> it would lead to people thinking stones are better than darts? 06:20:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:22:01 right 06:22:03 <|amethyst> It would be good to indicate that javelins do more damage than tomahawks, and to give some idea of how much 06:22:22 also, the damage cannot be directly compared to melee weapons 06:22:25 <|amethyst> though there is the question of what to do about launched ammo 06:22:34 but for now, there's no easy way to compare thrown weapons 06:22:43 <|amethyst> galehar: but we show base damage of launchers, which also cannot be compared to melee weapons 06:23:02 yeah 06:23:49 probably, this will have to wait until someone rewrite the ranged fighting 06:23:53 <|amethyst> Stone vs sling bullet is another case where you'd want to show numbers 06:23:59 <|amethyst> unless we get rid of stones 06:24:18 b-but jellies 06:24:22 but how will I find my way into labyrinth? 06:24:32 <|amethyst> galehar: darts :) 06:24:46 <|amethyst> galehar: and your darts can be branded, so you can drop a different one in each room 06:27:26 <|amethyst> Or we can give messages like the Zork II maze: "A little twisty passage maze you are in, all different" 06:30:45 -!- Ladykiller69 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:54 ??tla 06:30:59 why arent the bots working 06:31:15 its the same for ##crawl 06:32:12 <|amethyst> 03:02:31 ۰۰-- Sequell [~Sequell@shalott.org] has quit [Quit: Sequell] 06:33:04 <|amethyst> was undergoing maintenance last night, then was back for a few hours, then disconnected 06:33:18 <|amethyst> not sure if that means more maintenance, or that it crashed 06:33:21 -!- Suga_H has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:33:47 also how would you test the rate at which items are generated in shops 06:34:48 because I have recently, in (I think) every game in which I bought runed robes in orc found one of those to be archmagi 06:35:52 refactoring ogre mage spells by Cedor 06:35:53 <|amethyst> try making a bunch of shops in wizard mode 06:36:15 it was literally only in orc 06:36:31 <|amethyst> there is nothing particularly special about the orc:$ shops 06:36:36 hm 06:36:39 <|amethyst> most of the maps place four "any shop" features 06:36:47 <|amethyst> a few of them place specific shop types 06:36:52 <|amethyst> like "antique armour shop" 06:38:46 so its quite unlikely that that is bugged 06:39:34 and I am just one lucky bastard 06:39:48 <|amethyst> Depends on how many your bought 06:39:54 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:58 single digits 06:40:13 <|amethyst> I mean, if you bought one runed robe and it turned out to be archmagi, that's pretty lucky 06:40:32 maybe 4 or 5 times that I think 06:40:34 <|amethyst> if you bought five and one turned out to be archmagi, that's not quite so lucky 06:40:57 4 or 5 one or two robes each time I think 06:42:17 <|amethyst> antique shops do have higher-level stuff than other shops 06:42:38 so just lucky 06:44:07 <|amethyst> btw, why on earth does _place_spec_shop have a variable 'orb' that holds the item index of the generated item? 06:44:12 <|amethyst> I mean, why is it called 'orb' 06:44:46 <|amethyst> because I'm pretty sure there's only one orb and it doesn't appear in shops 06:44:55 <|amethyst> though maybe that could be an alternate ending 06:44:58 <|amethyst> vending_machine_of_zot 06:47:15 I still think you should be able to sac the orb to nemelex 06:47:59 <|amethyst> oh, 'int orb' dates back to pre-stone-soup 06:48:14 <|amethyst> + int orb = 0; 06:48:14 <|amethyst> + int i = 0; 06:48:14 <|amethyst> + int j = 0; // loop variable 06:48:17 <|amethyst> nice comment 06:49:00 <|amethyst> (which is still there) 06:49:04 <|amethyst> Ladykiller69: then what? 06:49:18 <|amethyst> Ladykiller69: you get a really nice deck but are cursed to wander the dungeon forever? 06:49:28 you have to escape the dungeon with every god that isnt him wrathing you 06:49:53 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:50:26 but you have permanent champion status 06:50:47 ofc that shouldnt be for every god 06:51:02 but jiyva would maybe also work for that 06:52:11 <|amethyst> so you get to trade -cTele, teleport delays, and slow contam decay for the wrath of all but one god? 06:52:22 <|amethyst> Why would someone do that? 06:52:28 well you dont get panlords 06:52:33 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:52:38 <|amethyst> Why wouldn't you get panlords? 06:52:49 because you arent escaping with the orb 06:52:59 <|amethyst> oh 06:53:07 <|amethyst> well, that means you lose the game at the end then 06:53:08 you get nothing but the wraths 06:53:35 you have to escape 06:53:41 but not from all the demony things 06:53:47 but from the wraths 06:53:50 <|amethyst> is that actually dangerous? I don't have a good feeling for how often the wrath of every god sets in 06:54:49 I actually have no idea 06:55:06 also the dungeon would have to turn more nemelex-y behind you 06:55:48 <|amethyst> anyway 06:55:58 yes 06:56:01 anyway 06:56:06 <|amethyst> sacrificing the macguffin to your god is so nethacky :) 06:56:07 whats TLA AC? 06:56:40 <|amethyst> Base armour rating: 4 Encumbrance rating: 4 06:56:45 oh 06:56:47 well 06:56:50 fuck that. 06:57:12 -!- CedorDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:57:23 I suppose I have to wait for a dragon 06:57:23 -!- CedorDark has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:41 03Cedor02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-1111-g4776522: Give ogre magi their own spellbooks (no functional change). 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 62+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=47765229106a 07:09:05 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 07:11:03 -!- sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:16:40 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:26:21 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:28:02 -!- Ladykiller69 has left ##crawl-dev 07:28:04 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 07:41:06 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 07:45:33 -!- CedorDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:45:47 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:59:02 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:05:22 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:08:37 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:12:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:21:33 -!- radinms has quit [] 08:27:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:34:43 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:40:05 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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It's been bouncing like an crank-shooting ferret on a trampoline 09:23:06 <|amethyst> s/an /a / 09:23:14 Maintenance 09:23:15 :) 09:23:24 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:27 I need to fix it so it can reload without dropping off IRC 09:23:46 <|amethyst> ah, and you're testing small changes at a time 09:24:03 <|amethyst> it was so frequent I figured it was crashing and restarting or something 09:28:42 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:32:57 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 09:33:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41:15 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:42:05 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:42:36 |amethyst: hey, is Sizzell's code online somewhere? 09:45:21 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 09:46:04 <|amethyst> ??sizzell 09:46:04 sizzell[1/1]: Like Gretell, except that |amethyst is typing everything himself. Announces games and upgrades on crawl.s-z.org ({CSZO}). Uses "%" for its commands ("%dump" etc), but does not do nick mapping. 09:46:17 <|amethyst> !learn add sizzell Source at https://github.com/neilmoore/sizzell 09:46:18 sizzell[2/2]: Source at https://github.com/neilmoore/sizzell 09:46:38 -!- Zermako has quit [] 09:51:15 -!- Matejiii has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:53:38 thanks 09:54:05 am I correct that all of the server bots are clones of sizzell now? (except gretell maybe, since gretell is older?) 09:54:16 <|amethyst> right 09:54:33 <|amethyst> gretell is older but still has @?/@?? 09:55:24 <|amethyst> well, I assume anyway. I know Lantell and Henzell are, and am pretty sure Ruffell is 09:55:36 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:55:53 <|amethyst> has the guy with the Korean server been back around? 09:56:02 <|amethyst> !lg * s=src 09:56:05 2737660 games for *: 1247877x cao, 939921x cdo, 476049x cszo, 44844x clan, 18770x rhf, 9527x csn, 672x ckr 09:56:30 <|amethyst> !lg * ckr -log 09:56:31 672. ProtestTheHero, XL4 MiFi, T:1384: http://kr.dobrazupa.org/morgue/0.13/ProtestTheHero/morgue-ProtestTheHero-20131109-172726.txt 09:56:41 <|amethyst> !lg * ckr -ttyrec 09:56:43 672. ProtestTheHero, XL4 MiFi, T:1384: http://kr.dobrazupa.org/ttyrecs/ProtestTheHero/2013-11-09.17:24:49.ttyrec.bz2 09:57:12 <|amethyst> ??ckr 09:57:12 I don't have a page labeled ckr in my learndb. 09:57:35 <|amethyst> I haven't updated the scoring scripts 09:57:36 so probably the easiest way to get a change through to all the bots is to give you a patch for sizzell and then bug all the other server admins to grab it? 09:57:54 <|amethyst> yeah, that would work 09:58:06 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:19 no CKR games in over two weeks? 09:58:44 <|amethyst> hmm 09:59:14 <|amethyst> !lg * ckr x=cv 09:59:14 672. [cv=0.13] ProtestTheHero the Covered (L4 MiFi), slain by a giant goldfish zombie on D:2 (lemuel_zombie_altar_kikubaaqudgha) on 2013-11-09 17:27:26, with 157 points after 1384 turns and 0:02:33. 09:59:18 <|amethyst> !lg * ckr s=cv 09:59:19 672 games for * (ckr): 672x 0.13 10:00:09 <|amethyst> greensnark: ckr has trunk now, morgues in "trunk" instead of "0.13" 10:00:36 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:00:51 <|amethyst> hm, what was the logfile location? 10:02:27 <|amethyst> greensnark: oh, there isn't a trunk logfile/milestones posted :( 10:03:08 <|amethyst> !tell sd1989 care to make the trunk milestones and logfile available over the web too? 10:03:09 |amethyst: OK, I'll let sd1989 know. 10:03:20 <|amethyst> elliptic: the logfile definitely shows more recent games than that 10:04:02 <|amethyst> !lg dosil 10:04:03 32. Dosil the Firebug (L4 DsFE), slain by an orc (a +1,+2 orcish whip of holy wrath) on D:2 on 2013-11-09 15:30:04, with 179 points after 2978 turns and 0:09:51. 10:04:07 <|amethyst> !lg dosil x=src 10:04:08 32. [src=ckr] Dosil the Firebug (L4 DsFE), slain by an orc (a +1,+2 orcish whip of holy wrath) on D:2 on 2013-11-09 15:30:04, with 179 points after 2978 turns and 0:09:51. 10:04:41 even in 0.13, you mean? 10:04:48 <|amethyst> yes 10:04:59 <|amethyst> greensnark: hm, sequell isn't pickup up ckr games anymore? Last ones are from 2013-11-09 but the 0.13 logfile lists games up to today 10:05:28 <|amethyst> Apparently one of sar's games is missing from the scoring pages 10:06:10 <|amethyst> but some more recent games (from the same server I believe) are listed normally 10:06:16 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:06:33 <|amethyst> oh, hm 10:06:38 <|amethyst> !lg * rhf x=cv 10:06:39 18770. [cv=0.14-a] MDvedh the Earth Mage (L26 GrVM), worshipper of Jiyva, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-11-27 14:49:58, with 1605883 points after 72033 turns and 4:19:03. 10:06:41 <|amethyst> !lg * rhf s=cv 10:06:42 18770 games for * (rhf): 6202x 0.13-a, 4945x 0.5, 3037x 0.7, 2077x 0.14-a, 916x 0.6, 793x 0.12, 661x 0.7-a, 139x 0.6-a 10:07:15 <|amethyst> !lg sar rhf cehu s=cv 10:07:15 4 games for sar (rhf cehu): 4x 0.13-a 10:07:19 <|amethyst> !lg sar rhf cehu 10:07:19 4. Sar the Merry Centaur (L27 CeHu), worshipper of The Shining One, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2013-09-29 17:26:30, with 9063101 points after 193423 turns and 14:28:24. 10:17:06 ok 10:17:12 anyone here? 10:17:47 !tell kilobyte what's the point of removing double newlines in hints.cc:4543 (0c8e6fc5) 10:17:47 galehar: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 10:18:57 !tell kilobyte it makes formatting end messages cumbersome (2 empty lines to get one). Especially wrt console/tiles/webtiles tags 10:18:57 galehar: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 10:19:04 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:20:12 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:20:17 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:22:15 New Class: Druid by Lightli 10:22:53 And before you ask, yes, it actually works 10:23:46 -!- tsohg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:23:50 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:15 -!- Nakat0my has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:29:35 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:32:38 Hello? 10:39:53 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:47:17 -!- scummos^ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49:45 -!- tholmes has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:52:01 ok, now that I know that a druid class is the worst idea ever and that I can actually program things without my computer exploding, what should I do 10:54:06 make the exoskeleton mutation give 5 ac and set the Fo hp aptitude to -1 10:54:26 report the disastrous results 10:54:41 k 10:56:41 How do I recover the latest trunk to get rid of the remains of my horrible horrible idea 10:57:13 <|amethyst> Lightli: were you doing your work in a branch or in master? 10:57:18 master because dumb 10:57:32 <|amethyst> do you want to at least save your work in a branch, or nuke it from orbit? 10:57:44 I have it saved on a folder elsewhere 10:57:58 So when april comes back around I can drag it back out for a bit 10:58:40 <|amethyst> it's a lot easier to drag it back out from a branch than a separate directory who knows where 10:58:54 <|amethyst> do: git checkout -b aprilfools 10:59:12 <|amethyst> that will make and check out a branch called "aprilfools" 10:59:56 done 11:00:06 now how do I wipe the slate clean so I can start making Fo slightly less terrible 11:00:34 <|amethyst> after verifying that everything is good (git status shows nothing that you want to add): 11:00:43 <|amethyst> switch back to master with git checkout master 11:01:03 <|amethyst> git branch to make *sure* you're in master 11:01:04 that's it? 11:01:05 <|amethyst> then git reset --hard origin/master to reset the current branch 11:01:27 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:01:31 <|amethyst> that will discard your master and replace it with the one from upstream 11:01:33 -!- deeeeee has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:01:49 <|amethyst> (discards your current branch, which is why I say make sure you're in master) 11:01:56 I did 11:02:05 <|amethyst> what does git describe say ? 11:02:18 Homogenize Abyss Party Patrol 11:02:32 <|amethyst> %git :/Patrol 11:02:32 07bh02 * 0.14-a0-1110-g7149c53: Homogenize the Abyss Party Patrol 10(13 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7149c535b5c8 11:02:37 <|amethyst> %git 11:02:37 07galehar02 * 0.14-a0-1113-g481a9a3: [txc] Improve the wrapping for languages without spaces. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=481a9a3d94cb 11:03:12 <|amethyst> you're good then 11:03:12 <|amethyst> assuming that has a hash starting with 7149c53 11:03:17 -!- Moanerette has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:03:24 does 11:03:48 |amethyst: some Sizzell patches muting the announcements of more milestones/deaths: http://bpaste.net/raw/153514/ 11:04:04 (untested, but hopefully I didn't do anything stupid...) 11:04:39 <|amethyst> "Do announce entering Hive" nice :) 11:04:52 Hive is dead 11:04:53 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13.0-67-g7ee5eca 11:04:58 %git :/hp 11:04:58 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-841-g52f2a1d: Make getting reduced to <= 0 maxhp by {,un)}transforming fatal. 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 13+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=52f2a1d1f193 11:05:02 elliptic: thank you for writing this 11:05:09 %git :/formicid 11:05:09 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-951-g7baad9e: Add cases for formicids in Azarael and friendly imp speech. 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7baad9e5f7da 11:05:33 -!- pythonsnake is now known as Guest17272 11:06:18 <|amethyst> no more Nessos announcements? 11:06:45 -!- Guest17272 has quit [Client Quit] 11:07:22 I was trying to special-case as little as possible, so only announcing one D unique and one lair unique 11:07:32 <|amethyst> yeah 11:07:47 <|amethyst> it's a lot easier to justify the contents of the list that way 11:08:03 -!- hart has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:08:30 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08:41 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:28 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:09:41 -!- pythonsnake1 is now known as pythonsnake 11:09:53 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:10:55 incidentally, I noticed when making the list that we don't have many uniques who can generate on D:14-16 currently 11:12:41 or maybe it's more accurate to say that most of the uniques who can generate there also generate on D:10 11:13:10 maud is the only unique who can generate on D:14-16 who can't also generate on D:11 11:14:04 <|amethyst> elliptic: updated and pushed 11:14:13 thanks :) 11:14:13 -!- dedededduduuchua has quit [Client Quit] 11:14:44 <|amethyst> !tell TZer0 some updates to sizzell including several from elliptic that you probably want to apply. ??sizzell[2] if you forgot where the repo is 11:14:44 |amethyst: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 11:15:13 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:15:14 <|amethyst> !tell greensnark some updates to sizzell including several from elliptic that you probably want to apply. ??sizzell[2] if you forgot where the repo is 11:15:14 |amethyst: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 11:16:08 <|amethyst> !tell joosa some updates to sizzell including several from elliptic that you probably want to apply. ??sizzell[2] if you forgot where the repo is 11:16:09 |amethyst: OK, I'll let joosa know. 11:17:00 -!- gammafunk_ has quit [Quit: gammafunk_] 11:17:03 ??gretell 11:17:04 gretell[1/2]: The counterpart to Henzell, for crawl.develz.org. Only accepts @whereis, @?, and @?? from IRC. The evil twin of Henzell. Accepts inquiries on PM. 11:17:05 <|amethyst> though joosa spoke of taking RHF down because he doesn't have time to keep it updated, so Ruffell might not get patched 11:17:07 ??gretell[2] 11:17:07 gretell[2/2]: Code available at http://git.develz.org/?p=gretell.git or git://git.develz.org/gretell.git 11:17:39 <|amethyst> There's a good chance your changes will apply cleanly to gretell, but I haven't tried 11:18:15 I guess gretell probably has some local changes that aren't in that repository, though probably not much that might conflict 11:18:16 <|amethyst> Hm... I need to get around to migrating CSZO's IP addresses soon 11:18:54 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 11:19:19 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: yes] 11:19:34 <|amethyst> the new ones seem to work; I just need to update DNS, and also update webtiles to be able to bind to multiple IPs for the transition 11:19:55 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1113-g481a9a3 (34) 11:20:08 <|amethyst> and restart all the programs that are binding to something other than 0.0.0.0, so apache too 11:23:36 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:24:22 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25:30 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: boyzeebep] 11:27:15 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:29:10 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:33:14 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:23 !tell Napkin When you get a chance, could you apply the patches in http://bpaste.net/raw/153528/ to Gretell? (They decrease the number of milestones/deaths that are announced on ##crawl.) Thanks! 11:34:23 elliptic: OK, I'll let napkin know. 11:34:26 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:41:15 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:42:31 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:43:01 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 11:46:08 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Quit: bye] 11:48:21 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:53:34 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:59 <|amethyst> ??ignored uniques 11:54:59 I don't have a page labeled ignored_uniques in my learndb. 11:55:02 <|amethyst> ??boring uniques 11:55:02 unannounced uniques[1/1]: Jessica Ijyb Blork Terence Edmund Psyche Joseph Josephine Harold Maud Grum Gastronok Dowan Duvessa Pikel Menkaure Purgy Maurice Yiuf Urug Snorg Eustachio Ribbit Nergalle. Deaths are not announced in ##crawl. This doesn't mean they are harmless, just that we don't want to be spammed by everyone killing them. 11:56:17 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:56:30 -!- rast- is now known as rast 11:56:49 <|amethyst> !learn edit unannounced uniques s/Jessica.*Nergalle/Ijyb Jessica Terence Yiuf Blork Eustachio Edmund Dowan Duvessa Pikel Grinder Menkaure Ribbit Joseph Grum Psyche Maurice Erica Fannar Harold Erolcha Nergalle Urug Josephine Gastronok Sonja Nessos Maud Purgy Snorg/ 11:56:50 unannounced uniques[1/1]: Ijyb Jessica Terence Yiuf Blork Eustachio Edmund Dowan Duvessa Pikel Grinder Menkaure Ribbit Joseph Grum Psyche Maurice Erica Fannar Harold Erolcha Nergalle Urug Josephine Gastronok Sonja Nessos Maud Purgy Snorg. Deaths are not announced in ##crawl. This doesn't mean they are harmless, just that we don't want to be spammed by everyone killing them. 11:59:01 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:01:35 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:43 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:03:27 -!- rast- is now known as rast 12:12:23 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:17:52 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:22:09 -!- valtern has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:23:47 -!- alefury|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:29:23 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:31:08 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:28 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:42 -!- ark__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:38:26 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:40:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:43:03 -!- minqmay is now known as TARBALLPYTHON 12:43:11 -!- TARBALLPYTHON is now known as minqmay 12:43:28 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:03 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:48:09 -!- OneEyedJack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:51:27 -!- kelpie has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:54:00 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:10 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:58:45 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:02:04 -!- master_j has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02:58 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:24:27 -!- SaintWacko has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:24:53 -!- Guest70279 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:12 -!- Guest70279 is now known as Hosungsungnim 13:29:23 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 18.0.2/20130201065344]] 13:29:56 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:31:48 -!- hurdos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:18 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:01 -!- chewymouse has quit [Client Quit] 13:46:09 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1114-g88595bd: Webtiles: allow multiple IP/port combinations. 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 24+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=88595bdc03cc 13:47:28 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:51:23 |amethyst: seems like you have something in mind server-wise with that commit? 13:53:15 -!- Nakalein has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:54:10 <|amethyst> CSZO is having an IP address migration, that's so I can listen to both addresses once I get the new one up until everyone's DNS is up-to-date 13:54:33 Aha. :) 14:03:27 mutarobin (L12 LOCK) ERROR in 'directn.cc' at line 2986: Error: invalid trap type 100 (Lair:4) 14:10:41 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1114-g88595bd (34) 14:18:45 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:24:29 -!- Brokkr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24:34 -!- motorbit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:24:47 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:25:10 Webtiles server stopped. 14:25:22 Webtiles server started. 14:26:14 <|amethyst> hmm 14:26:34 !lm mutarobin crash -log 14:26:35 7. mutarobin, XL12 LOCK, T:17814 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/mutarobin/crash-mutarobin-20131127-200321.txt 14:29:11 <|amethyst> hm, the stable launcher doesn't seem to be working 14:29:21 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:59 <|amethyst> /usr/games/crawl-0 not found wha 14:30:27 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 14:30:37 elliptic: in the initial defining Depths as a branch commit, a lot of big uniques were cut from d:14-16, and I don't think particularly many people noticed 14:31:38 <|amethyst> oh duh 14:31:43 agnes, aizul, azreal, kirke, louise, nikola, roxanne, rupert, snorg 14:31:51 <|amethyst> doh 14:32:12 surely the small end chunk of D post-Lair can still be allowed to be a little dangerous 14:32:51 Webtiles server stopped. 14:33:00 Webtiles server started. 14:33:03 yeah, most of those could be added back in I'd think 14:33:33 |amethyst: nice waste of one of my entry vaults :b 14:34:05 Grunt: was there any particular idea in mind with unique placement with the D/Depths split? 14:34:43 * Grunt goes back and looks at his changes. 14:34:44 * Sequell also goes back and looks at his changes. 14:34:50 * Grunt kicks Sequell. 14:35:27 I think the idea I had in mind at the time was relative to the Lair branches - uniques who spawned only late there would also be Depths and those who spawned earlier would be in D? 14:35:39 I was also going to add Snorg to lair, btw 14:35:51 Sounds reasonable to me. 14:37:04 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: ninja kapow] 14:40:32 Evening 14:40:39 Hi Cryp71c. 14:45:43 grunt, any thoughts on http://sprunge.us/dcbb ? 14:47:02 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:51:54 A lot of the tagging/weighting/etc. logic seems like it could be simpler, but I can't immediately think of how that would happen. 14:53:14 * tenofswords shrugs 14:53:41 I don't really see why we need lesser demons at all in the Pan entries btw. 14:53:57 They're purely popcorn at the point they turn up 14:53:58 . 14:54:39 "make sure you actually recognize this is a re-purposed pan lord vault" 14:55:46 -!- |amethyst has quit [Quit: reconnecting] 14:56:08 Anyway, someone else is going to do this if I don't, so: 14:56:22 03HangedMan02 {Grunt} 07* 0.14-a0-1115-gab5b2a2: Hell, Pan, Abyss entry vault dampening 10(19 hours ago, 3 files, 182+ 82-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab5b2a226644 14:56:24 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:34 thanks 14:57:04 03elliptic02 07* 0.14-a0-1116-g4c3d792: Swiftness changes. 10(23 minutes ago, 12 files, 65+ 29-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c3d7924ca2c 14:57:04 03elliptic02 07* 0.14-a0-1117-g67152d2: Add comment. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=67152d2d4913 14:57:04 03elliptic02 07* 0.14-a0-1118-g5cc957e: Let more uniques generate on D:14-16. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5cc957e5e99c 14:57:07 Sooner or later I'm going to get on making more decorative entries (I guess that's mainly for Hells right now). 14:57:32 yeah 14:58:46 that is a neat swiftness change 15:00:44 <|amethyst> well, s-z.org's DNS is still being screwy and not replicating properly to the secondary (admin is looking into it); and I haven't been able to change the reverse DNS yet 15:01:08 <|amethyst> but it's up on both addresses now 15:01:32 <|amethyst> also, CSZO webtiles now supports wizmode for admins in stable, not just trunk 15:02:09 Display number of affected monsters for Zin's recite by Sandman25 15:02:22 -!- Aarinfel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:02:38 elliptic: IMO close #7786 15:04:29 oh, I hadn't seen that issue 15:04:30 will do 15:05:23 I'd do it myself, but you're in a better position to explain why :) 15:06:24 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:14:07 now I'm looking forward to all the 2nd half of swifntess ghosts 15:14:55 poor alligators 15:15:05 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: ophanim] 15:15:31 -!- Konstantin__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:18:22 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19:13 the commit didn't change monster swiftness 15:19:49 <|amethyst> elliptic: so antiswift has no effect in water? 15:20:07 because I wasn't sure of the best way and we have a rich tradition of monsters cheating and using old forms of the spells 15:20:11 |amethyst: just like swift, yes 15:20:25 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:39 <|amethyst> elliptic: so merfolk can use it to kite with just the right geometry :) 15:20:48 !send elliptic Wiglaf 15:20:48 |amethyst: well, merfolk can already kite in water 15:20:48 Sending Wiglaf to elliptic. 15:20:49 <|amethyst> elliptic: that's not why I was asking though 15:20:53 since they have spriggan speed 15:21:01 I guess Op could though, yes 15:21:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:22:15 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1119-g9f411cc: Show -Swift light in darkgrey while in liquid. 10(44 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f411cca2344 15:22:17 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:34 oh, right, thanks 15:22:55 I actually thought about that but then got distracted writing the antiswift text :P 15:23:17 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:24:00 <|amethyst> didn't alligators already cheat with swiftness 15:24:07 <|amethyst> in that it works in water for them 15:24:21 yeah, and they get a different message 15:24:36 * Grunt puts on a burst of speed! 15:24:36 * Sequell hugs Grunt. 15:24:40 ... 15:25:09 <|amethyst> (actually, looks like all monsters cheat with swiftness and wter) 15:25:45 constriction? :p 15:28:25 * Zannick doesn't understand why the bots are so active now. 15:28:27 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:28:31 -!- ac13 has quit [Quit: ac13] 15:30:09 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:30:15 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:31:25 <|amethyst> ok, s-z.org DNS is fixed now 15:31:42 <|amethyst> so people should be getting the new IP 15:32:03 <|amethyst> both are up for now, though, until the ISP eliminates the old block 15:32:25 -!- simmarine_ is now known as simmarine 15:33:06 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Client Quit] 15:42:19 it's a free game. We don't have the budget to upgrade the spells of ALL monsters! 15:42:35 * Grunt gestures at galehar. The crystal spear misses galehar. 15:44:22 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1119-g9f411cc (34) 15:44:46 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:36 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:48:25 -!- Zabo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:48:41 galehar: 1; there's a lot of multi-line tables that need to be pre-formatted, 2. almost all tutorial messages go to the message box where you can't have empty lines anyway 15:48:41 kilobyte: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:49:32 I don't remember the exact reasons, though -- it has been a while 15:49:35 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:50:09 they can have empty lines just fine 15:50:27 mpr("") does nothing 15:50:40 the \n\n replacement forces weird formatting of those tables 15:50:57 see "tutorial5 exit" in the diff of the commit I messaged you about 15:50:59 currently useless potions: is there a reason for them to be drinkable? 15:51:09 -!- ac13 has quit [Client Quit] 15:51:17 I'd say it's better to stop them instead of wasting, just like scrolls do 15:51:34 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:35 there's that 40 nutrition, but that that's overdue for removal 15:52:03 (clearly make all potions really gluggy) 15:52:47 ("You're too full to drink that potion.") 15:52:48 <|amethyst> use gluggy as a random first adjective, make only those give nutrition 15:53:04 <|amethyst> and give back special effects to funny helmets 15:53:32 galehar: in that one, we want these lines separate. How can the tutorial know they shouldn't be combined into one line? 15:53:37 hasn't anybody invented a drunkenrobin who has to drink all the bad potions? 15:53:49