00:00:00 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:01:33 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1036-g6cac21b (34) 00:05:25 -!- Sgeo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:06:17 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-1036-g6cac21b (34) 00:11:07 -!- simmarine_ is now known as simmarine 00:15:51 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1036-g6cac21b (34) 00:16:16 rast (L13 MiGl) (Lair:8) 00:19:51 Can you give vault define mosnters intrinsic resistances? 00:20:43 sullage (L20 GrFi) (Shoals:4) 00:21:28 gammafunk: why...? 00:22:00 BH: I want to give some monsters steam resistance 00:22:13 -!- Dr_Ke has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:22:23 Making another sauna? 00:22:36 No, but want to use steam in my water temple portal 00:24:54 Is it essential to use harmful clouds? 00:25:25 I think so; I'm going to have water that appears, and deepens in tactical areas 00:25:31 and would like to generate some steam clouds 00:25:31 -!- Croesus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:25:45 sort of like how the overflow volcano works 00:25:59 well very much like, except that the water also receeds 00:26:25 I just don't want to kill any of the monsters with steam 00:26:32 but perhaps few would be damaged much with good placement 00:31:59 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:57 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1036-g6cac21b 00:35:21 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:41:51 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:45:32 gammafunk: I want to put a double wide hole in one randomly selected wall. What's the right syntax? 00:46:03 bh: what's in the other three walls? 00:46:11 Grunt: trees 00:46:24 I'm adding a forest entry 00:46:35 Okay, suppose you have ttAAttBBttCCttDDtt 00:46:35 @? 00:46:35 Usage: @? 00:46:42 SHUFFLE: ABCD 00:46:52 SUBST: A = ., BCD = t 00:46:56 ah. SUBST: A =, right... 00:47:44 -!- SamB_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:36 Grunt: what if we want to get more complicated: aAAabBBbcCCcdDDd -- I want to convert one pair aA into wall and floor respectively and turn the rest of bBcCdD into trees? 00:51:14 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:54:38 : local brnd = crawl.random2(3) 00:54:53 er, 4 00:55:09 : if brnd < 2 then 00:55:23 *< 2 00:55:42 **> 2 00:55:58 : elseif brnd > 1 then 00:56:04 : elseif brnd > 0 then 00:56:07 : elsei 00:56:09 *else 00:56:25 And then just define what AaBbCcDd are for each one 00:56:40 That's rather unpleasant syntax 00:58:41 It works 00:59:40 I don't doubt it. 01:01:35 BH: just shuffle: Aa / Bb / Cc / Dd 01:01:50 Ah! That's much simpler 01:01:53 then subst: Aa = x 01:04:40 -!- UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:06:39 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:07:44 crawl: %CPU 99.5 -- I think I did something wrong 01:08:07 -!- Sgeo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:10:24 what is the vaults orient? 01:10:34 and how are you placing it 01:10:42 I asked it to rebuild the level around it 01:11:04 Playing it with the &L works fine 01:11:06 placing 01:11:14 what orient? 01:11:24 if you have none, that's you're problem 01:11:36 vaults_orient_s 01:11:55 no, I mean the ORIENT: line 01:12:10 I didn't include one 01:12:11 if you don't have one, you can't place with &P iirc 01:12:38 e.g. minivaults can't place 01:12:54 you can add ORIENT: float if you'd like to see it with level gen 01:14:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:27 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:19:27 -!- Vherid has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:21:59 Random question 01:22:05 Xom 01:22:10 !rng answer xom 01:22:10 The RNG chooses: xom. 01:22:34 What happens if Tiamat gets her hands on the Sword of Jihad? If the sword drives her berserk, does her band also berserk? 01:23:03 I assume it does nothing because arts are all hacks. 01:23:22 Aww 01:23:26 I seem to remember johnny0 being berserked by his ally with Jihad 01:23:33 so possibly that could work 01:23:43 maybe you should find a way to wizmode this and see for sure 01:27:25 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 01:27:55 -!- eligrey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:32:08 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:35:01 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:35:17 -!- y2s82_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:39:18 gammafunk: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7624487 01:39:43 !killratio arachne 01:39:45 arachne wins 1.215% of battles. 01:39:51 !killratio mara 01:39:53 mara wins 2.914% of battles. 01:39:57 !killratio cerebov 01:39:59 cerebov wins 5.555% of battles. 01:42:55 !killratio jory 01:42:56 jory wins 2.520% of battles. 01:43:04 That is honestly terrifying now 01:43:52 Lightli: here's a good strategy for not dying to uniques: Run away. Come back when you're overpowered. 01:43:56 !killratio mennas 01:43:58 mennas wins 4.344% of battles. 01:43:59 yes 01:44:02 o_0 01:44:26 !killratio nikola 01:44:28 nikola wins 5.619% of battles. 01:44:41 !killratio sigmund 01:44:44 sigmund wins 28.05% of battles. 01:44:46 Huh. Players do not respect electricity 01:44:48 ...what 01:44:57 sure, but Sigmund is a newbie trap 01:45:15 !lg * killer=sigmund max=xl 01:45:15 71579. aristotle the Reanimator (L10 DENe), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, slain by Sigmund (a scythe) on D:4 on 2007-04-19 23:34:09, with 6237 points after 12411 turns and 0:55:47. 01:45:25 I'm not sure why nikola being deadly is.... surprising 01:45:35 it doesn't really take very long to die to him 01:45:40 !lg . killer=nikola 01:45:41 1. bh the Eclecticist (L15 HuAE), worshipper of Vehumet, blasted by Nikola (chain lightning) on D:14 on 2012-07-30 00:17:02, with 57557 points after 31766 turns and 4:22:14. 01:45:59 !lg . killer=nikola -log 01:46:00 1. bh, XL15 HuAE, T:31766: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/bh/morgue-bh-20120730-001702.txt 01:46:11 !lg * killer=sigmund max=sc recent 01:46:12 13127. Falaina the Carver (L9 LOFi), worshipper of Beogh, succumbed to Sigmund's poison on D:7 on 2013-08-13 17:31:31, with 4651 points after 11951 turns and 0:31:37. 01:46:21 here's where things get weird 01:46:25 !lg . killer=nikola 01:46:25 1. wheals the Shatterer (L15 GrGl), worshipper of Makhleb, blasted by Nikola (chain lightning) on D:14 on 2013-11-06 15:22:40, with 92814 points after 29840 turns and 1:15:44. 01:46:26 !lg . HuAE max=score 01:46:27 7. bh the Meteorologist (L27 HuAE), worshipper of Vehumet, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2012-08-06 01:50:44, with 1355399 points after 148798 turns and 18:07:09. 01:46:36 !lg . killer=nikola -log 01:46:36 1. wheals, XL15 GrGl, T:29840: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/wheals/morgue-wheals-20131106-152240.txt 01:46:41 That's the same character. 01:47:01 The game crashed while I was fighting Nikola 01:47:21 so it crashed as he killed you and wiped out the death, huh 01:47:36 wow, sweet bug 01:48:01 I was plenty surprised. 01:48:14 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:48:25 Maybe the crash log is still around? 01:48:32 BH: Are you showing me that because the exit isn't working? 01:48:41 you need to add an @ connector 01:48:44 -!- y2s82_ has quit [Client Quit] 01:48:56 so that the level gen nows how to connect it to the rest of the map 01:49:09 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49:55 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: night] 01:50:15 huh, never mind 01:50:19 weird, first time it placed 01:50:22 it didn't have an exit 01:50:40 gammafunk: no. It works fine 01:50:45 oh? 01:50:51 yeah, I'm testing again 01:50:53 I was showing you to get your opinion 01:50:55 but it was weird the first time 01:51:14 ??crash 01:51:15 crash[1/1]: If you crash and the state does not seem recoverable, go to Advanced Options in dgl and then Backup Save File and let the developers know you've done so when you file a report in mantis: crawl.develz.org/mantis 01:51:18 checked 01:51:24 Tiamat's band went berserk alongside her 01:51:31 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:51:32 I then died in 1 turn because a berserk tiamat is bad 01:51:43 aha 01:51:44 yes 01:51:51 bh, try placing it repeatedly with &P 01:51:56 sometimes you'll be blocked in 01:52:12 that's a shame. I'll fix taht 01:52:15 I think the problem won't happen if you add @ 01:52:51 it's a nice entrance vault 01:53:09 are you going to make it part of a full autumn end? 01:53:36 I looked into how tree color is selected, and I'm a bit iffy on a full autumn ending 01:53:54 If I could pick tree color based on the distance to stairs it would be super easy 01:55:05 I think you'd want to make the whole layout use autmn 01:55:34 It might look cooler if it was almost entirely autumn with pockets of green near the stairs 01:55:46 yeah, and that would be easy to do 01:56:17 it's just, can you make the layout choose autumn on forest:5 and also get your end vault? 01:56:23 You could do it as encompass 01:56:24 Why not a winter ending too 01:56:31 In which all the trees are bare 01:56:44 gammafunk: or just randomly autumnal Forest:5 01:56:53 yeah, true 01:57:15 honestly autmn doesn't suggest a particular theme, per say 01:57:30 *per se 01:58:14 03bh02 07* 0.14-a0-1037-gf56133e: Autumnal Forest Stairs 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 31+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f56133eba971 02:00:54 BH: I'm not sure if arrival vaults are supposed to have orient: float or not; that suggestion was just to test with &P 02:01:20 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:01:27 gammafunk: hrm. It can show up anywhere in Forest, so I didn't want to get fancy with it 02:01:48 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:02:01 at any rate, I'm out 02:02:03 -!- bh has quit [Quit: sleep] 02:08:30 -!- eb has quit [] 02:17:12 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:28:53 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:33:45 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41:30 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:47 -!- Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:51:00 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 02:58:58 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 03:04:22 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 03:04:39 -!- SamB_ is now known as SamB 03:05:36 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:13:27 -!- _dd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:14:03 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 03:17:37 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 03:23:22 -!- UseBees_ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:29:27 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:42:19 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:45:16 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 03:45:46 hello boys 03:46:26 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 03:48:21 MarvinPA, around here? 03:48:31 hey 03:48:31 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 03:48:36 :) 03:48:54 i'll update your comments for the patch 03:49:04 and I had 1 related question 03:49:42 |amethyst told be it could be helpfull to have the spell list for vault monster 03:50:28 I lurk into the source yesterday, and while seeing the complexity of the construction, i thought about something 03:51:18 now when whe want to print the spell books of monster we have to check the books from mon-spll.h 03:51:55 and I just addded a spell list in mon-info 03:52:14 so I thought we could save all the spell books of monster is this element 03:52:33 but I don't know the politics about memory usage in crawl 03:53:15 It might be a redundant information, but the display will be easier, and custom spellbooks will be easier to display too 03:53:35 hmm, i'm not really the person to ask there unfortunately, since i don't know either really :P 03:53:49 ok 03:53:57 any name for me? 03:54:21 not sure, possibly amethyst or kilobyte could answer (they're probably sleeping at the moment though) 03:54:26 ok 03:54:38 i'll ask them then 03:54:46 thanks :) 03:54:55 no problem 03:56:55 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:23:44 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 04:25:40 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:31:13 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:32:53 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:16 -!- orionstein is now known as orionstein_away 04:45:15 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:45:15 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:45:33 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:51:43 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:59:01 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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patiently 10:26:39 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:50 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:32:04 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1048-ge41e28f: Mark a decorative branch entry vault 'extra' (HangedMan) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e41e28fcfcec 10:32:04 03HangedMan02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-1049-g837ca82: Edit Depths entries to connect better to Depths, add new ones 10(31 minutes ago, 1 file, 127+ 111-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=837ca82679d9 10:32:35 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:07 whoo 10:37:17 -!- orionstein is now known as orionstein_away 10:38:01 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38:33 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:06 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:42:25 !apt Hp 10:42:25 HP: Tr: 3!, Og: 3!, DD: 2, Na: 2, Mi: 1, : 1, Gh: 1, HO: 1, Dg: 1, LO: 1, Ce: 1, Mu: 0, Ds: 0, Hu: 0, Vp: 0, Mf: 0, Gr: , Ha: -1, Op: -1, Dj: -1, HE: -1, Ko: -2, Gr: -2, Te: -2, DE: -2, Fo: -2, Sp: -3, Fe: -4* 10:42:52 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:57 ...you do know that ORIENT: in a vault entry tag has nothing to do with the rest of the level placing a primary vault or not, yes? 10:47:06 s/vault entry tag/entry vault/ 10:48:18 that would be true in most cases, but not for branch ends 10:49:07 It is true for branch ends too. This is the reason that D:27 way back when took such a long time to generate (it was trying to place two huge vaults all of the time) and the reason we explicitly PLACE: the Zot entry vaults so that it doesn't take forever trying to place two huge vaults. 10:49:20 ... 10:50:32 alright then, "re-fix float/not float status on all the vaults" is going on the list 10:50:38 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51:06 <|amethyst> So I guess e41e28f should be reverted? 10:51:15 %git e41e28f 10:51:15 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-1048-ge41e28f: Mark a decorative branch entry vault 'extra' (HangedMan) 10(22 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e41e28fcfcec 10:51:38 |amethyst, have 5 min? 10:51:39 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:47 |amethyst, I'm specifically talking about branch entries; that isn't a branch entry. 10:51:49 <|amethyst> Cedor: what's up? 10:51:59 <|amethyst> Grunt: err? 10:52:04 question about memory policy 10:52:12 <|amethyst> Grunt: it's a forest entry 10:52:14 heh, who knows how ORIENT: float actually affects placement of branch entries 10:52:19 or 'extra' 10:52:21 * Zaba doesn't >_> 10:52:30 Zaba: I do, because I coded the current behaviour. 10:52:34 <|amethyst> Cedor: yes? 10:52:38 Grunt, cool 10:52:38 %git f56133e 10:52:39 07bh02 * 0.14-a0-1037-gf56133e: Autumnal Forest Stairs 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 31+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f56133eba971 10:52:50 that vault isn't a branch entry anyway 10:52:55 <|amethyst> oh 10:52:56 |amethyst: that isn't an entry vault; it's a Forest vault. 10:53:00 <|amethyst> doh 10:53:14 I added a monster spell list mon-info, and i'm tempted to add a vector of monster spells 10:53:19 Really that strikes me as more of a minivault anyway? 10:53:23 <|amethyst> that's what I get for not paying attention 10:53:27 <|amethyst> Grunt: see above 10:53:30 to store all spell avaliable for all monsters 10:53:40 <|amethyst> (before it was committed) 10:53:51 don't minivaults potentially lose their stairs if a non-mini vault asks for some 10:53:55 <|amethyst> I think bh made it not a minivault because he was using &P to test it 10:54:10 (not that there any many ambushes for forest) 10:54:24 it'll be easier to store custom spell book from monster vaults, and will reduce differenciation in dscribe.cc 10:54:47 but this mean i'll increase the memory size of the mon-info struc 10:55:12 <|amethyst> Cedor: I don't think that's a problem 10:55:14 and I wonder what was the usual decision in such case 10:55:38 If the level's placing too many stairs, anything inside a vault (this includes minivaults) has an equal chance of being preserved, IIRC. 10:55:41 <|amethyst> Cedor: however, I believe there are places we marshall monster_infos 10:55:50 <|amethyst> Cedor: so it would need save compat code 10:55:57 i.e. the stair replacing code only checks if the stair is inside a vault and doesn't prioritise vaults or minivaults or any combination thereof. 10:56:06 ...odd 10:56:21 ah 10:56:35 going to blame bad luck on my testing of hell vaults, then 10:58:31 I should look for some save compat code then 10:58:40 (can I use a justification of "I really hate the obvious passages out from floating vaults for really tiny vaults" instead for cutting ORIENT: float from entry vaults) 11:01:31 <|amethyst> Cedor: docs/develop/save_compatibility.txt is a good place to start 11:01:37 <|amethyst> Cedor: then look for commits that touch tags.cc 11:01:38 ok, thanks 11:01:40 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:01:57 <|amethyst> Cedor: marshallMonsterInfo and unmarshallMonsterInfo are the functions you're interested in 11:02:47 i'll look into this then 11:03:38 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:58 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04:11 -!- Croesus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:04:37 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:28 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:10:21 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:11:34 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:12:30 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:14 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:55 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:47 MarvinPA: what's the point of some cases ignoring clarity? To me, this appears to be a special case for no gain. 11:16:24 I vaguely recall that the initial code appeared to be unintentional, and ignoring clarity was left during a refactoring with IRC comments about wondering whether this should be kept or not 11:16:42 (I may recall it wrong, not sure here) 11:17:18 -!- Cedor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:17:32 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1049-g837ca82 (34) 11:17:34 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:51 lots of wrath effects already ignored clarity/sustab so that was why i let xom do so when bored too, but i wouldn't be against making them all check it, yeah 11:19:40 -!- gammafunk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20:15 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:29 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:21:49 -!- mummies-r-op has quit [Client Quit] 11:22:47 Quaffing a potion of lignification is not a chaotic act. by CommanderC 11:22:59 wow, great bug report title 11:23:30 1learn add goodmantis 11:23:52 related to confusion: some players have suggested that zap self under confusion should have some not-so-close-to-zero chance of success 11:24:34 I'm not sure what the actual chance is, e.g. if it's 1/9, but it's quite low 11:24:34 what is the chance right now? is it 0? i thought there was a chance of working 11:25:47 hrm 11:25:51 target = you.pos() + coord_def(random_range(-range, range), 11:25:52 random_range(-range, range)); 11:25:58 with a default range of 6 11:26:04 which is what the current instances use 11:26:19 <|amethyst> so 1/36 11:26:24 so unless your LOS is greatly constrained 11:26:26 <|amethyst> err 11:26:27 |amethyst: 1/49 11:26:37 oh, I guess LOS doesn't matter 11:26:37 <|amethyst> 1/169 11:26:44 <|amethyst> -6 to 6 in both directions 11:26:46 ...oh, right 11:26:53 doh 11:26:59 i never use wands while confused, but never realized they were THAT bad 11:27:26 first and only death in pan: cleared 90% of holy pan, decided to go back into lich form, forgot to put on clarity 11:27:27 i guess you can still hit immediately adjacent stuff, rarely 11:27:42 cboe -> confuse -> dead by angels; all my tele zaps failed 11:28:02 <|amethyst> could make it actually "fuzz" the aim 11:28:14 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1050-g5bb11d7: Fix descs for sealed gates. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bb11d7f7d12 11:28:14 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1051-gca664d9: Teach db_lint about sealed big doors. 10(16 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca664d9f73f7 11:28:14 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1052-g26789ad: Drop an untranslated part of a quote. 10(81 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=26789ad4b57d 11:28:14 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1053-g8827f8c: A .pl quote for gourmand. 10(63 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8827f8c2f885 11:28:14 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1054-g9dcb54a: Re-add a quote, lost during a transifex sync. 10(62 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9dcb54afaad3 11:28:14 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1055-g6fb51a0: An .en quote for gourmand. 10(52 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fb51a068c48 11:28:16 and that's why necromutation gets you killed :P 11:28:16 <|amethyst> change the angle slightly 11:28:16 <|amethyst> or more than slightly 11:28:38 I need to write the lua lich saving function 11:28:52 if you try to use cboe/wucad as mu or lich form with no clarity 11:28:55 <|amethyst> but I guess only changing the angle would let you hit yourself every time 11:28:55 it will prompt you 11:29:26 its often better to just not use lichform there, unless you have really bad issues with food 11:29:46 if you want, just cast it when something with torment pops up 11:29:50 a simple solution: no evoking while confused 11:30:11 kilobyte: takes away even more recovery methods! 11:30:24 I like how decks work while confused. wands are hard because you need to point them, but at least you can pick cards out of a deck 11:30:31 yes 11:30:38 in fact you can escape lich confuse with a deck 11:30:45 but that's pretty spoilery 11:30:47 that's why I like mummy of nemelex 11:31:13 decks could drop a number of random cards 11:31:54 I feel like noting that our characters are dexterous enough to quaff potions while confused. 11:32:08 Presumably this isn't quite trivial :) 11:32:10 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 11:32:20 yeah, I think decks are supposed to be "simple" compared to other evokables, so you can use them while confused 11:32:22 "smash bottle against face" 11:32:50 You pour the potion in your ear! Yuck! 11:32:57 <|amethyst> "too drunk to play cards" = "unconscious" 11:33:00 missing with a flaming shot... 11:33:41 related to #7780: zin actually blocks deliberate transformations as well as involuntary ones 11:33:55 i guess if you actually want to transform (and get penance) you should be able to 11:33:59 * kilobyte leaves it to |amethyst's superior experience. 11:34:08 I agree with |amethyst. 11:34:14 (me and friends used to to other stuff while sloshed) 11:34:37 <|amethyst> kilobyte: "too drunk to play Settlers of Catan" = "unconscious" would be my experience 11:35:24 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:35:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:36:42 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:25 * SamB thinks he has a slightly lower ability to play settlers than |amethyst's friends ... 11:38:14 * geekosaur declines to speculate 11:38:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:38:45 -!- Fortescue has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:38:57 grunt, evilmike: Depths:$ are commonly regarded as "that floor with all the draconians", which are usually very concentrated and clustered; as combination branch ends and zot entry vaults, would it infringe on the zot part to use more 0s instead of more draconians than the average floor of zot 11:39:01 <|amethyst> SamB: I didn't say you had to *win* :) 11:39:08 -!- Fortescue has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:35 maybe we have different ideas of what actually constitutes "play" 11:39:51 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:39:56 tenofswords: yeah sure. and could generally reduce the number of draconians to just ones around the immediate portal 11:40:27 tenofswords: and replace draconians with various dragons too 11:41:03 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:42:01 if all players are equally drunk, what's the problem with your skill being impaired? 11:42:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:18 (btw, I'm extrapolating from what happens when I'm tired; I don't actually get drunk) 11:46:45 -!- Fortescue has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:47:21 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:47:22 I personally find I don't enjoy myself so much at that sort of game when I'm playing really badly 11:47:33 -!- Fortescue has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:44 it makes me feel kind of dumb 11:47:53 SamB: How do you feel when you play crawl? 11:48:15 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:16 what I mean is, when I'm playing much worse than I could play 11:48:35 (or at least it seems like I am) 11:48:40 I guess the question still stands, but fair enough 11:49:19 anyway, if I do something stupid and die on a character that I felt was going well I don't much enjoy that, either 11:49:43 !lg SamB max=xl 11:49:43 1352. SamB the Axe Maniac (L20 LOBe), worshipper of Trog, blasted by a frost giant (bolt of cold) on Vaults:3 on 2013-06-30 23:39:07, with 298746 points after 55235 turns and 5:04:43. 11:50:10 frost giant with rC- is no fun 11:51:31 -!- namad8 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:52:21 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:52:56 * SamB didn't remember getting so far down in vaults outside wizmode 11:57:13 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:57:35 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:19 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-1056-gfe8841e: Fix quaffing potion of lignification not being chaotic 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe8841e97c3c 12:01:01 -!- SupermanBananaX has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:01:10 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:03:34 -!- CedorDark has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:49 -!- Cedor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:14:27 -!- eith|3 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:16:24 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:17:45 Would choosing a random square in the 3x3 grid centered on the intended target be a better way to do target fuzzing? 12:18:14 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:18:16 a 1/9 chance of zapping self is pretty reasonable 12:18:50 not if you want to teach player not to use wands when confused 12:19:49 I don't think it's a question teaching the player anything; disabling wand zaps under confuse would be better than what we have now 12:20:17 depends 12:20:36 if you still can use other evocables, disbling wand might be strange 12:21:00 well ideally targeted evocables would also be disabled 12:21:43 yep (and this means... fire lantern only?) 12:22:00 certain cards, phial, lamp 12:22:49 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:56 right 12:24:00 %git fdf79a466cf 12:24:00 07elliptic02 * 0.14-a0-1028-gfdf79a4: Decrease Gr mutation spam, modify Gr GDR formula. 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 4+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdf79a466cf6 12:24:09 why are hill orcs saprovores 12:24:12 why do trolls have fur 12:24:20 why do octopodes have gelatinous body 12:24:31 to allow to ask questions maybe 12:24:39 that's all pointless mutations why do they even exist 12:24:42 they're just mutation spam 12:24:44 to confuse you >.> 12:25:14 i'd say they're irrelevant at end game, but it's nice starting help 12:25:27 you know what else they are 12:25:45 little flavour text 12:26:34 little is better than none for me 12:27:21 (time to go) 12:27:23 If you want to reduce mutation spam you should nerf malmut. :V 12:31:04 (if you want to enforce this you clearly should make troll tiles actually have fur) 12:32:16 They're somewhat fuzzy already, and representing fur in a couple of pixels is impossible. 12:34:07 doesn't crawl have fuzzy things? It has fuzzy confusion 12:34:12 -!- eith|3 is now known as eith 12:34:17 fuzzy rats 12:34:49 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/Ratsy2.png fuzzy fuzzy ratsies 12:34:55 sometimes the dev team uses fuzzy logic 12:34:56 fuzzy pandemonium lords 12:35:08 hey, I like that tile 12:35:21 although it could be fuzzier 12:36:27 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:36:28 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:07 A particular case of fuzzy logic is making a problem out of the Gr mutations when there is none. 12:37:19 -!- helium has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:37:54 fuzzy logic to care this much in the first place 12:38:08 -!- wack has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:01 Yeah bloax, I still don't see a Gr speedrun of 15 runes under your account 12:39:58 (personally, if it means no more reverting or reverting reverting "Remove rElec" then I'm more than fine with it) 12:40:09 xw (L8 GrBe) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 208 / 15 (D:6) 12:40:50 speaking of Gr 12:41:03 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 12:41:03 -!- gammafunk_ is now known as gammafunk 12:41:31 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:53 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:03 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:45:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:46:04 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Client Quit] 12:47:08 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:09 -!- jeffro has quit [Changing host] 12:47:09 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:20 -!- tren has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:48:54 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:08 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:22 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:13 Bloaxzorro: octopodes actually have gelatinous body because they used to be 0 AC and it was awful 12:51:16 they would die all the time to bats 12:52:12 quick, make gargoyles need talons to survive D:1 12:53:58 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: pwnmonkey] 12:54:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:56:35 first races' innate features get moved to mutations, then people feel problems with "mutation spam" 12:57:26 for me the latter means "races differ by more than just apts" 12:57:29 interesting to imply there's a sense of sequence to changes done years apart 12:57:42 Gr needed a nerf so taking the auxes makes sense, but still loses some theme 12:59:09 -!- Frppo has quit [] 13:05:01 It doesn't seem there's much consensus on whether to remove frances or frederick. The current opinion seems to be to keep both 13:05:23 Unlike Frances, Frederick is actually taken seriously. 13:05:59 Yeah, that's been said a lot, but Frances is supposed to sit at a different difficulty level 13:06:43 !lg * recent ikiller=Frances 13:06:44 63. hustleandflow the Basher (L15 DsAK), worshipper of Lugonu, blasted by Frances (shard of ice) on Spider:2 on 2013-11-23 02:19:01, with 104909 points after 30805 turns and 2:47:52. 13:06:49 !lg * recent ikiller=Frederick 13:06:49 109. Chiseanne the Blocker (L16 DDMo), worshipper of Cheibriados, blasted by Frederick (iron shot) on D:22 on 2013-11-19 09:41:01, with 142972 points after 29219 turns and 2:54:20. 13:07:22 Freddie does get over 50% more kills than Frances 13:08:46 He also doesn't have a background tale of grandeour and victory that's about as likely as Zermako killing Cerebov. 13:09:50 frances killed a sputterflies pan lord 13:10:59 to be fair I ran frances versus a pan lord in arena a number of times and she was able to kill a couple 13:11:15 well yes 13:11:18 she just won 4 our of 99 for me 13:11:20 a panlord 13:11:22 haha 13:11:26 do panlords come alone 13:11:26 Adolf got 21 13:12:00 Try a panlord and a shadow fiend, to make it more realistic. 13:12:01 Bloaxzorro: It was a newly established pan lord that hadn't finished unpacking 13:12:27 she got one of the vaults that uses solely "any demon" 13:12:32 and all those any demons were 5s 13:12:46 Yeah, or one of the vaults where the pan lord was in a closet, sleeping 13:13:36 interestingly enough you never get control over the realm's thanes. 13:13:58 Bloaxzorro: She had a lot of crusade cards 13:14:13 well does this disprove my initial point 13:14:32 that's about as likely as Zermako killing Cerebov. 13:15:06 I'm guessing it's much more likely that Frances could take a pan lord vault compared to Zermako killing cerebov 13:15:31 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:17:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:20:21 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:21 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 13:20:21 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:30 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:37 http://sprunge.us/MUBC - sort float.des's files into a few categories so the .des isn't so messy 13:23:12 git seems to act kind of weirdly with this patch... 13:23:20 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:23 how current the old version is? 13:23:49 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:24:12 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:20 version of what 13:24:52 float.des; I just checked it hasn't been touched since Nov 16 so you probably have it up to date 13:27:46 it complained about whitespace errors you introduced in a few places 13:28:21 git is picky about "correct" whitespace, its tastes are a subset of our checkwhite 13:29:07 I for one used to prefer to have in-block empty lines have spaces up to the indentation level, but it's not worth fighting git 13:30:24 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1057-g61e6cea: Revert "Make confusion from overwhelming wrath irresistible" 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=61e6cea48ecf 13:30:24 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1058-g06c1ea6: Don't let some sources confuse you through clarity. 10(2 hours ago, 5 files, 8+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=06c1ea6c662b 13:30:24 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1059-g25d357c: Simplify away an argument. 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=25d357c34977 13:30:24 03HangedMan02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-1060-ge7fcb48: Sort out float.des 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 1685+ 1669-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7fcb4816402 13:31:26 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:43 -!- djanatyn has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:31:57 -!- beef42 has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:34:23 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:45:25 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7321 13:45:39 as far as i can tell this has been broken since 2008: 13:45:46 %git 9e6fb5d 13:45:46 07Matthew_Cline02 * r9e6fb5de4cf9: Zooko's Xom patch (piety handling and whether his acts are good or bad). 10(4 years, 11 months ago, 6 files, 205+ 80-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e6fb5de4cf9 13:46:16 any thoughts on whether it should actually be fixed or if greater demon/angel summoning should just be removed or what? 13:46:35 should clearly be glowing shapeshifter summons 13:47:42 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:24 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:57:35 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:00:37 -!- frank_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:02:35 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:42 -!- CedorDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:03:32 -!- master_j has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:08:50 I'd say Xom needs a buff 14:09:01 not sure if this is the best thing to do, though 14:10:02 instead of angels and demons, how about something more fun, like summoning a friendly apocalpyse crab 14:10:10 this affects both summon allies and summon hostiles 14:10:17 do those come as friendly variants? 14:10:21 so it probably wouldn't be much of a buff even 14:10:23 apoc crabs, I mean 14:10:26 or whatever is the most insane monster in crawl at the moment. xom summoning holies/demons sucks 14:10:35 -!- alefury has quit [] 14:11:27 friendly apoc crab would be pretty amusing; they're not as hardy as demons/angels anyhow, but they'd have a pretty big effect I'd guess 14:11:56 apocalypse crab (16t) | Spd: 11 | HD: 8 | HP: 38-66 | AC/EV: 11/6 | Dam: 1509(chaos), 1509(chaos) | 05demonic, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(53), 05fire++, 02cold++, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 09poison, 08holy++ | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 492 | Sp: chaos blast (d12) | Sz: small | Int: insect. 14:11:56 %??apocalypse_crab 14:12:15 gammafunk: the problem is, apoc crabs don't do that "friendly" thing 14:12:22 chaos clouds tend to make monsters more dangerous, so friendly apoc crabs wouldnt really work 14:13:10 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:24 (new hostile summon, obviously) 14:14:21 i guess klowns are the other monster that stands out as being xom-ish 14:15:35 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:59 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-1061-g2968064: Fix enchantments going through bushes (xw) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2968064d2030 14:17:12 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:18:24 maybe it'd be xom-like for him to summon a group of random completely disparate allies based off HD or something 14:21:29 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:37 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:22:57 random-branch shadow creatures 14:22:59 -!- pwnmonke_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Thanks for the explanation. 16:13:57 -!- Kenran has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14:05 -!- Moanerette has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:14:51 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-1067-g1f2cbd1: Display RING_AMULET in % screen (#7781). 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f2cbd148277 16:19:23 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 16:23:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 16:25:12 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 16:28:28 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 16:28:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:29:29 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:51 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:30:05 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:15 -!- orionstein is now known as orionstein_away 16:39:36 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:01 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:55 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49:06 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49:37 -!- alchemist_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:50:13 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:52:54 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 16:53:59 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:54:59 -!- Aponym has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:56:25 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03:52 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:04:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 17:05:01 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:35 Tree form drowns in lava, but not in deep water by minmay 17:05:59 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:46 -!- Foamed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:16 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:19:24 -!- reaver_ has quit [] 17:20:28 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:04 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:25:13 -!- evilmike has quit [] 17:32:02 -!- joos has quit [] 17:34:59 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:35:09 -!- jooosa has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:21 -!- jooosa is now known as joos 17:37:16 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38:47 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:52 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42:13 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:50:25 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:53:32 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:54:09 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:56:41 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00:37 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:02:07 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:03:34 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:15 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:06:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:07 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:39 -!- VIdiny has quit [Quit: You want it to be one way. 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'Nyo.'"] 19:23:00 -!- Sgeo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:24:50 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:26:03 what, no grey rat 19:27:50 oh those exist 19:30:29 -!- Giavanni has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:32:35 tenofswords: I'm trying to add MH_ELDRITCH 19:33:51 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:35:03 !tell ontoclasm tenofswords reminded me of the existence of grey rats, and I also forgot about the unholy glow: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/OrangeRat2.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/GreyRatsy.png 19:35:04 Bloaxzorro: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 19:35:10 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:25 Bloaxzorro: I see that rats have the GLOW_LIGHT flag, but they don't see to have a radius 19:36:56 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:32 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:37:32 I'm just going off the "A unusually large rat with weird knobbly orange skin, glowing with unholy energies." description. 19:37:53 oh damn it even has a grammatical error there 19:38:03 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:38:03 or does it 19:38:06 MONS_ORANGE_RAT, 'r', LIGHTRED, "orange rat", M_WARM_BLOOD | M_GLOWS_LIGHT, 19:38:13 u is a stupid letter 19:38:15 An unusually 19:38:48 (but I think that rule can be ignored if it sounds awkward imo) 19:38:50 An unusual occurence in the province of Unicanocaenada. 19:38:51 The glow aura code examines size if you aren't holy, and they're size little. I guess I don't understand what glow is doing in this case 19:44:29 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:46:40 -!- neuwiz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:46:48 -!- orionstein_away has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:47:18 -!- raskol has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:49:44 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:52:01 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:37 -!- havires is now known as havires_off 19:55:10 -!- havires_off is now known as havires 19:57:36 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:57:57 -!- Zermako has quit [] 19:58:32 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:00 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:00:01 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 20:00:50 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:01:00 <|amethyst> bh: it keeps them from being invisible 20:01:10 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Client Quit] 20:01:53 <|amethyst> bh: monster glow doesn't give them a halo; only certain holies, and monsters with the mace of Brilliance, have a halo 20:03:03 things that glow: _shadow_ fiends 20:04:41 bh: have you decided what MH_ELDRITCH will do? I guess so if you're already implemented it 20:06:25 make abyssal stuff consistent (and less extended demons), god treatment of them consistent, get rid of the abomination dumb special-casing, 20:08:57 <|amethyst> as for shadow demons glowing, 20:09:00 <|amethyst> %git cdce1a6d 20:09:00 07dolorous02 * rcdce1a6d4370: Make monsters' glowing quality a class flag, instead of hardcoding a list of glowing monsters. 10(5 years ago, 3 files, 26+ 50-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cdce1a6d4370 20:10:40 <|amethyst> before that commit, the list was "already glowing or invisible" 20:10:55 fr shadow fiends are preset to be invis 20:11:21 gammafunk: I've implemented part of it. No corpses, all unclean 20:11:37 anything weird other than that? 20:11:52 let me check 20:11:55 starcursed mass (02X) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 124-174 | AC/EV: 10/0 | Dam: 16 | 11non-living, see invisible, regen | Res: 06magic(96), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 1334 | Sz: Huge | Int: animal. 20:11:55 %??Starcursed mass 20:12:01 large abomination (04X) | Spd: 6-12 | HD: 11 | HP: 32-67 | AC/EV: 0/0 | Dam: 40 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(102), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 725 | Sz: Big | Int: plant. 20:12:01 %??large abomination 20:12:24 hrm. It's weird that aboms are holy vulnerable and masses aren't 20:13:16 almost a year ago when mh_eldritch was proposed the idea was to definitely not give them rHoly-- 20:15:24 tenofswords: why don't you implement it? 20:15:36 I'm going to miss cases that you've probably thought of already 20:17:41 I've got my own things to do 20:19:49 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:20:02 -!- wack has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:20:31 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:02 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:21:41 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 20:29:57 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:30:41 -!- soundlust|2 is now known as soundlust 20:37:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:38:09 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:39:11 -!- Somefellow has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 20:39:34 !tell bh: +1 to TSO hating eldritch just as well as demons -- slaying abominations from "the beyond" seems to be what a paladin would do to me. 20:39:34 kilobyte: OK, I'll let bh: know. 20:40:35 !tell bh not sure where tenofswords took this part from, it's contrary to what I remember from the discussion 20:40:35 kilobyte: OK, I'll let bh know. 20:41:48 that first one looks misaddressed? 20:43:32 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:39 it is 20:43:57 kilobyte: 20:47:01 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1068-g91acb9d: Allow the random picker to choose enums with a valid value of 0. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=91acb9d46df3 20:47:01 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1069-g9b63340: A primitive picker for Abyss guest monsters. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 50+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b633406dae7 20:47:01 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1070-gf337e59: Don't recompile world when random-pick.h gets changed. 10(43 minutes ago, 8 files, 17+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f337e59f1d4a 20:47:01 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1071-g12db857: Simplify, optimize and fix liquid counting. 10(30 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=12db857025c4 20:47:01 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1072-g24c2e89: Refactor an abuse of goto. 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 43+ 61-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=24c2e89fad68 20:47:03 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:08 Grunt: aquatic monster picker uses depths as it were absdepth -- depth:1 in Zot is quite a different thing than depth:1 in the Lair 20:51:39 ugh, if place:IceCave or place:Volcano are going to actually be used anyway they'll need actual adjustments 20:52:43 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:55:04 -!- Sky__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:56:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:57:30 -!- quazi has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:59:03 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:20 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:58 -!- Somepony has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 21:09:18 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:11:50 -!- sprort has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 21:18:28 kilobyte: I did consider making that change, but then I realised that at the moment it makes absolutely no difference. 21:18:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:52 ...the only places where there were restrictions on monsters by absdepths already had their own monster selections. 21:20:04 (at the time that I was writing it, at least) 21:21:01 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:21:51 ...also, thanks for fixing my abominable merge of the weighted aquatic monster code :| 21:22:30 Recursive crash while reading fear scroll. by Palyth 21:22:30 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:23:10 -!- inspector071 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30:19 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:31:52 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34:24 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:36:00 -!- tbigye has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:36:37 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:42:57 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1072-g24c2e89 21:45:25 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:47:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:50:31 -!- Roarke has quit [Client Quit] 21:54:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:55:50 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:00:30 -!- tenofswords has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:15 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:04:55 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:03 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: brb] 22:09:09 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:40 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:14:04 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1073-ga37dd58: Implement adjacent_iterator on its own, rather than via radius_iterator. 10(18 minutes ago, 2 files, 49+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a37dd589bb18 22:14:16 -!- flappity has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19:40 kilobyte: is that screaming fast now? 22:20:25 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:20:45 * SamB reads commit 22:20:46 aww 22:22:24 radius_iterator/circle_iterator/circle_def still use the old code and occupy most top spots on profiles 22:23:20 I rewrote most users recently to allow refactoring, but I preferred to give the changes a bit of time to get tested for regressions 22:23:45 (a fancy name for "got other shinies around" :p) 22:24:03 lol 22:24:39 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: This is not a desk. It is not being flipped.] 22:25:32 thanks to qw, other speed-up priorities have changed 22:26:41 I based it mostly on resting in Sprint and the abyss bot; I guess qw matches real games far more 22:27:03 only things in common are the iterators and LOS 22:27:47 is this with or without showing individual steps during autoexplore? 22:28:38 -!- iasov has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:28:38 -!- necKro has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:31:54 without, of course 22:32:16 display code is still prominent, though 22:33:57 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:35:25 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:35:50 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:15 Curare should halt monsters casting Word of Recall: opine. 22:37:25 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:39:03 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:03 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 22:39:03 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:42:49 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51:41 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:13 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:53:16 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:53:53 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:55:31 grunt: that seems weird 22:55:41 ackack: how so? 22:55:58 it would be odd to make breath matter for precisely one spell 22:56:10 you convulse and have trouyble breathing. seems to me that should affect a long recitation... 22:56:34 well, it seems to me it should affect all spells, but that's obviously impractical 22:58:49 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:59:23 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:00:17 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:00:19 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:01:18 Hello, what's the proper way to format this item? Bad item name: 'never_decay rotting grey rat corpse w:12' 23:01:25 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:49 I think you want to use the suggestion in the des syntax to make the rotting start when the corpse it spotted by the player 23:04:07 in my case, I truly don't want them to ever rot. 23:04:33 ITEM: rotting never_decay griffon corpse 23:04:40 is what's given in that file 23:04:49 doesn't work? 23:04:50 ok I'll give that a shot, thank you! 23:06:23 Bad item name: 'rotting never_decay grey rat corpse w:12' 23:07:17 I think the weight may have to come first? 23:07:33 pretty sure that's not it 23:07:42 and I assume you have a full set specified with e.g. / 23:07:42 <|amethyst> badplayer: this is trunk? 23:07:49 yes amethyst 23:08:01 <|amethyst> what's the exact syntax you're using? 23:08:10 KITEM: ^ = never_decay rat skeleton w:16 / \ 23:08:10 never_decay rat corpse w:8 / \ 23:08:11 never_decay rotting rat corpse w:8 / \ 23:08:11 never_decay grey rat skeleton w:24 / \ 23:08:11 never_decay grey rat corpse / w:12 \ 23:08:11 rotting never_decay grey rat corpse w:12 / \ 23:08:13 never_decay green rat skeleton w:10 / \ 23:08:15 never_decay green rat corpse w:5 / \ 23:08:16 Uh 23:08:17 rotting never_decay green rat corpse w:5 23:08:21 the / and w:12 are swapped in that line. 23:08:32 oh gee 23:08:35 thanks grunt 23:14:26 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:14:46 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:17:21 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:20:29 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-1074-g835b84a: Fix curare's breath weapon duration against monsters. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=835b84a06683 23:20:29 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-1075-g8467a61: Do away with a magic number in vault sentinel's horn code. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8467a6141cf4 23:20:29 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-1076-gee4852e: Have ENCH_BREATH_WEAPON interrupt / prevent Word of Recall. 10(6 minutes ago, 2 files, 13+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee4852e1cc0e 23:21:24 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:24:49 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:27:21 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:27:54 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:27:55 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:33 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:31:59 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 23:33:51 -!- Flex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:39:57 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:45:08 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:46:04 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:50:52 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:55:21 -!- pelotron_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:56:24 How can I write a NSUBST to replace a range of thing? eg, I want a random number between 10 and 15 of my %'s to be %'s, but the rest to be ~'s ... does that make sense? 23:57:07 NSUBST: % = 10:% / 5:%~ / *:~ 23:57:28 Grunt, you are a master! 23:58:02 how do those numbers work? 23:58:15 From left to right: 23:58:20 "replace 10 % with %;" 23:58:26 "replace 5 % with one of % or ~;" 23:58:32 "replace the remaining % with ~" 23:58:55 thank you.