00:01:40 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:06:32 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-987-gc8002fa (34) 00:09:04 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-988-ge43bbd0: Don't use invocations skill for Jiyva abilities 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e43bbd017f1d 00:10:40 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:08 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:27 ??silver 00:18:27 silver[1/1]: +5% damage per mutation (up to *1.75), 1.75x vs chaotic things (marked as such in their description). This means shapeshifters, mutaters, ugly things, abominations, Tiamat, Killer Klowns, chaos spawns, chaos butterflies. 00:18:40 Ah. That's cute. Is that a recent change? 00:20:05 -!- Voker57 has quit [] 00:21:41 silver has been around for quite a while, or did you mean something about what it does? 00:22:01 I don't remember the effects changing recently, but I could be forgetting something 00:22:17 !learn edit silver s/, chaos butterflies// 00:22:17 silver[1/1]: +5% damage per mutation (up to *1.75), 1.75x vs chaotic things (marked as such in their description). This means shapeshifters, mutaters, ugly things, abominations, Tiamat, Killer Klowns, chaos spawns. 00:22:56 -!- Sgeo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:23:42 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:23:43 fr tmut form that uses hp instead of mp for spells 00:24:12 elliptic: changing, I meant. My recollection was that it hurt chaotic things. 00:24:45 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:24:47 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:22 which it does 00:29:19 has anyone every suggested an unrand silver weapon? 00:29:57 wheals: I think you just did 00:29:59 :) 00:30:05 I seem to recall someone talking about a silver lajatang? 00:30:10 I want to say Grunt? 00:30:26 excuse me if I'm putting words in your---fingertips 00:30:27 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:30:27 -!- BirdoPrey_ is now known as BirdoPrey 00:30:41 Wasn't my idea originally; I was just remembering it. 00:30:57 it could be a sabre! 00:31:00 hehe 00:31:10 quick blade 00:32:00 -!- CeleryMan has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:10 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 00:32:32 Why not a set of thematically related weapons? 00:39:35 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:42:23 i'll try to see if i can program something 00:49:52 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:50:55 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-989-ga90c1d6: Improve some status messages for Jiyva's jelly paralyse ability 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a90c1d6a1ae1 00:51:43 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:52:26 -!- badplayer has joined ##crawl-dev 00:52:27 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:53:10 Hello, I was reading the vault syntax guide, and it's quite terse. Is there a more friendly (layman) document out there with more examples and explanations? 00:54:36 badplayer: see introduction.txt in the same dir 00:54:41 yah I saw that 00:55:00 I find some of the NSUBST, SUBST, weighting and replacement syntax to be tough... 00:55:07 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:55:15 Well probably the best thing is to look at simple, decorative vaults at first 00:55:34 perhaps thats one way. 00:55:55 the vault docs are pretty complete i thought 00:56:01 there's no vault making wiki sadly (or not sadly?) 00:56:13 oh they're complete for sure. 00:56:22 just tough sledding for me. 00:57:01 yeah, all the subst and shuffle stuff just inevitably gets pretty crazy complex in some places unfortunately 00:57:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:58:10 it's generaly the most helpful to look at vaults of about the same size and "idea" that you're attempting 00:58:25 boo, more gods should be using invocations, not less :( 00:59:52 maybe the docs could point to some examples of existing vaults that use substs extensively or something 01:00:26 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 01:01:12 I ran !lg * recent !boring s=species / win o=%, and at the end of it is "0/1x Yak [0.00%]" 01:01:22 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:27 Wonder how I could play this elusive yak species 01:01:27 !lg * race=yak s=char 01:01:28 2 games for * (race=yak): MDFi, ElFE 01:01:52 well notice this was with recent 01:02:19 md was selectable via config or something 01:02:33 oh, haha 01:10:10 -!- Somefellow has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 01:10:42 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:00 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:55 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:15:48 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: ninja kapow!!] 01:21:26 -!- Goodle has quit [Client Quit] 01:25:17 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:28:27 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:29:42 -!- pwnmonke_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:37:53 I think that was finally fixed during the last tourney? 01:38:15 I mean, being able to select things that weren't supposed to be allowed, in general 01:38:36 it's possible there are still bugs in the predicate though I suppose 01:39:01 <|amethyst> %git 40e4d2d93654a6f849c9886917b3e11e8e66128f 01:39:22 07elliptic02 * 0.13.0-6-g40e4d2d: Clean up checks for disabled species/jobs when starting a new game. 10(5 weeks ago, 5 files, 34+ 29-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=40e4d2d93654 01:40:41 !lg * sp=yak recent 01:40:42 2. darkli the Shield-Bearer (L1 MDFi), slain by a worm on D:7 on 2013-06-01 04:25:03, with 27 points after 1117 turns and 0:02:34. 01:41:09 nearly 6 months old, presumably someone fixed that 01:48:40 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:54 anybody ever suggested a consumable that gives you ddoor? 01:53:16 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:58:01 The dungeon restructuring makes it very tempting to play.. 02:01:13 ontoclasm: there's a similar one on tavern now 02:01:54 yes, that's what made me think of it 02:02:18 but the tavern one is bizarre and silly 02:02:28 as, indeed, one would expect from tavern 02:02:46 they need to stop serving alcoholic beverages ... 02:02:49 just "evoke this for ddoor" seems pretty straightforward 02:03:27 I kind of like the idea of a ddoor potion 02:03:48 it'd be an interesting one to quaffid 02:04:10 maybe early game ddoor would be problematic though 02:05:08 why? 02:05:40 early on a potion of hw is probably more likely to win you a fight 02:05:46 yeah that's true 02:06:15 and early fights tend to last a long time because of misses, so it would still be dangerous despite a lower hp cost 02:08:20 -!- Morg0th has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:11:04 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:12:41 also if it's unbalanced in the early game it can just have a minimum depth 02:12:49 the way immolation does (used to?) 02:13:39 really now that I think about it it's probably not that unbalanced early on 02:14:02 I mean as you said, there's hw. Also berserk rage, speed...many strong choices 02:14:42 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:15:39 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:04 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:18:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:23:47 |amethyst: can i bother you to change the default back to trunk instead of stable on cszo since the tourney is over? or is that going to remain standard now? 02:24:18 normally i press tp to play but for some reason i havent lately! thankfully i can just let my new character rot in stable instead :P 02:28:06 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:30:51 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:40:24 -!- _dd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:41:28 -!- scummos^ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:43:59 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 02:53:03 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:01:42 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:02:47 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 03:15:18 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:16:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:18:08 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 03:28:26 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:45 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:43:34 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:44:05 -!- lazarenth has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:50:47 -!- pwnmonke_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:53:41 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:53:45 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:54:05 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 03:54:20 -!- kait_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:55:52 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:56:04 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:56:15 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 03:58:22 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:02:22 -!- Pepe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:05:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:05:47 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:07:08 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:13:38 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:14:55 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 04:16:15 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:17:36 !seen bhaak 04:17:36 I last saw bhaak at Wed Nov 20 14:09:04 2013 UTC (20h 8m 32s ago) saying 'dpeg: Leichenfledderer, allesamt!' on ##crawl-dev. 04:19:46 dpeg: jo? 04:20:36 Just playing on nao for the first time in more than ten years. I am having a really hard time. 04:20:43 haha 04:20:50 also, the damn thing forgot my nick 04:21:06 podcast preparations? 04:21:10 and so many prompts, I completely forgot how many prompts there are 04:21:17 bhaak: yes, I am doing my homework :) 04:21:29 got my Val to gnome town 04:21:44 urks, ASCII 04:21:48 killing a mind flayer on Mines:1 (two ghosts <3) 04:21:52 don't you want to enable decgraphics? 04:21:52 bhaak: what else? 04:22:02 ah, maybe 04:22:12 how do you like the hitpoint bar? 04:22:42 better than it used to be, the colours really help 04:23:47 -!- MP2E has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:31:07 -!- scummos| has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:40:13 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:42:11 nao is nethack? i thought there wasn't a decent way to play it online 04:42:55 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:25 define "decent", it's still the nethack UI ;) 04:44:04 but you can telnet and ssh into nethack.alt.org. it's the biggest nethack public server. although prepare for lag if you're not in the US 04:44:40 I'm pretty sure that nao was what made rax come up with cao :) 04:45:15 of course, dgamelaunch was programmed by dtype for nao 04:45:58 just curious, i've never played nethack 04:46:14 dpeg: btw did you ever get around to sil 04:46:17 nao is online since 2001 04:46:29 absolutego: no :( And now I play on nao :((( 04:46:40 give it a go sometime, it's really good 04:46:53 absolutego: yes, we almost lost two devs to it :) 04:48:01 i think there are design decisions there you'll find interesting 04:48:25 last time I tried a new rl (Brogue), I was overwhelmed by the good design 04:49:19 i was overwhelmed by the shiny :p 04:49:43 i have to give it a serious try, the last time i considered it it was the "food version" 04:49:48 maybe that's been "fixed" by now 04:50:46 absolutego: yes, people rave about Brogue's look but that's a negative for me 04:52:20 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:52:44 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:53:21 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 04:54:33 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:54:43 -!- frank_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:59:56 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:01:27 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:14:45 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:16:39 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:25:57 -!- Tarragon is now known as Basil 05:29:39 well, when you make lighting important you need to display it 05:30:09 I like the look, but I also play crawl tiles 05:33:19 the lighting isn't even clearly displayed though 05:33:59 unless something changed i don't think you can actually see at a glance when tiles are lit? 05:34:57 for me, the colour gradient is too smooth... 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Restriction to 16 colours sometimes hurts, but we definitely don't need 256 for gameplay purposes. That would be like saying "let's go Cyrillic, so we can have more monsters" :) 09:02:23 on the other hand, it would be nice to use extra colours for marking up past messages (ie, making clear_messages=false, the terrible current default, usable) 09:02:45 yes, a bunch more colours could help the interface 09:02:56 or making elemental colours not masquerade as regular ones 09:03:02 for example, yes 09:09:43 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:11:13 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:16:06 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:16:54 -!- wack has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:17:34 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:19 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:24:32 -!- tsohg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:24:45 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:27:52 -!- MaxFrosty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:36:05 -!- tksquared has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:43:57 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:59 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:45:26 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:59 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:01:37 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:03:20 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:04:28 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:05:18 -!- SkaryMonk2 has left ##crawl-dev 10:05:33 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:06:06 -!- Amilir has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:40 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:13:45 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:14:47 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:32 -!- kitarity has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:19:01 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:45 -!- UglyTHing has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:23:18 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:26:24 so i tried to work on adding an unrand, but i ran into the message main.cc:4991:5: error: size of array ‘compile_check___LINE__’ is negative 10:26:31 when making 10:27:09 i did manage to compile before and git diff doesn't say i changed anything in main.cc by accident? 10:27:28 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:27:36 oh, does this have something to do with line endings 10:28:47 anyone know what the message means? 10:32:59 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:35:00 <|amethyst> wheals: COMPILE_CHECK(NO_UNRANDARTS < MAX_UNRANDARTS); 10:35:13 <|amethyst> wheals: there's no room for new unrands 10:35:20 oh 10:35:28 <|amethyst> I think it should be fine to just increase MAX_UNRANDARTS 10:35:38 <|amethyst> Grunt was talking about this a few days ago 10:35:38 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:33 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:37:05 just remove ponderinghat 10:37:12 <|amethyst> *probably* it's okay to double it to 200; I doubt we use a char to store it anywhere 10:37:37 <|amethyst> there are already removed randarts you could replace with the new one; but then we'd have to figure out what to do for save compat 10:38:08 <|amethyst> so we don't end up with Sniper turning into a pair of boots 10:39:13 -!- MDvedh has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:40:17 ok, looks like main compiles ok with the change to defines.h 10:42:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:42:33 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:36 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:49:43 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:52:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:52:23 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:55:02 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:57:50 -!- Crehl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:57:53 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:26 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:58 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:58 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 11:02:58 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:57 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:07:55 <|amethyst> wheals: ah, I was wrong 11:08:03 <|amethyst> wheals: there is save compatibility that needs to be done 11:09:06 <|amethyst> oh, maybe not 11:09:35 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:09:49 <|amethyst> wheals: never mind, looks like the code does handle it after all (it marshalls the number then the list) 11:10:13 <|amethyst> wheals: but it does mean the upper limit without needing save compat is 256 11:10:27 <|amethyst> s/compat/compat handling/ 11:11:51 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 24.0/20130918041159]] 11:14:45 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:17:36 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-989-ga90c1d6 (34) 11:17:55 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:22:51 -!- inspector071 has quit [Quit: inspector071] 11:28:08 -!- Amilir has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:30:59 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:53 "Only creatures of flesh and blood can berserk." 11:32:53 Bloax: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:33:13 interestingly this describption pretty much makes it nullify stasis 11:33:15 !messages 11:33:16 (1/1) ontoclasm said (20h 56m 2s ago): Those look great! 11:35:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:36:17 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:30 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:38:45 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:40:53 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:41:09 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:41:40 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:43:40 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:48:22 -!- flowsnake_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:18 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:51:36 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:37 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:55:40 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:56:28 -!- rax_ is now known as rax 12:00:08 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:00:38 -!- keszocze has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:02:46 -!- inspector071 has quit [Quit: inspector071] 12:14:04 -!- flowsnake_ is now known as flowsnake 12:24:50 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:22 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:25:40 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:32:18 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:46 -!- WaspMonolith has quit [Client Quit] 12:36:53 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:46:30 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:29 !tell grunt i made a thing and put it on mantis 12:48:29 wheals: OK, I'll let grunt know. 12:48:57 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:02 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:27 |amethyst: i'm missing my vaults entrance >.> 12:51:58 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:52:26 Axe of Law, a silvered axe by wheals 12:54:43 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:09:43 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:09:59 -!- ark_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:14:37 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 13:16:45 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:19 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:22:46 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:54 -!- blabber has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24:39 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:25:21 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:33 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:28:30 -!- chewymouse has quit [Client Quit] 13:30:33 -!- pwnmonke_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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You should get it upon reloading an affected level... 13:50:36 do i need to reexplore them? 13:50:49 if you got the message, yes 13:50:59 should be in red 13:51:17 4light red 13:51:37 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:51:49 don't see it, hm 13:51:58 i guess i'll reexplore and see 13:52:40 -!- pwnmonkey_ has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 13:54:43 -!- NotKintak has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:14 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 13:55:22 X^F then X^U 13:55:22 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:56 yeah, reexplored d:13 - d:16 13:55:58 no dice 13:56:20 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:57:25 -!- pwnmonkey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:01 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:15 luckily it's a djinn, so no hurry :J 14:04:05 ah, in new trunk 14:04:14 could you get a copy of the save? 14:04:31 yep 14:05:05 https://dobrazupa.org/saves/ontoclasm-crawl-git-99e57c105c-131121-2004.tar.bz2 14:05:08 ontoclasm: Anything on the troll leathers? 14:05:23 Bloax: they look good 14:05:47 Any big issues 14:05:48 ? 14:05:52 would you mind putting them on mantis for me? i'm at work right now so can't commit anything 14:06:01 ah 14:08:16 random crash in pthread_join on arm by KiloByte 14:09:57 -!- pwnmonkey_ has quit [Quit: pwnmonkey_] 14:12:00 ontoclasm: it was a transferred save, it has generated on Depths:1 14:12:09 aha 14:12:11 okay 14:12:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:12:26 thanks 14:13:19 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:23 New troll leather armour tiles by Bloax 14:18:45 i guess i need to redraw the depths/vaults doors xD 14:20:00 what, is Depths in Vaults now? 14:20:47 no 14:20:53 vaults is above depths, in the dungeon 14:21:16 but the V door is locked and the U door isn't 14:21:20 oh 14:21:34 and that applies retroactively? 14:22:50 so I guess we decided to switch to a "bloody murder" lock for Depths? 14:22:57 yeah 14:23:29 as a couple of people pointed out, the depths lock consists of evilmike_ambush with 5 golden dragons 14:23:51 -!- Giavanni has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:23:57 fr U:1 always has evilmike_ambush 14:24:19 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:24:31 I hope the Vaults lock gets dropped rather sooner than later, so drawing a tile might be hasty. 14:24:43 hm 14:24:56 yeah i guess 14:25:07 * ontoclasm shrugs 14:25:12 drawing doors is pretty easy 14:25:28 i really like how my new zot gate turned out 14:25:45 anyway, cheers 14:25:56 thanks for the help, amethyst 14:26:02 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:26:18 -!- inspector071 has quit [Quit: inspector071] 14:26:20 -!- inspector071_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:26:27 -!- valtern2 has quit [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org] 14:28:19 locks for everyone! you get a lock, and you get a lock, and you get a lock... 14:28:38 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:14 * kilobyte wants some fixed locking for des files (not related to the crash above, that's db not des). 14:29:39 Hm, I suspect Vaults might not have an entrance on D:14-15 in my game 14:30:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 14:31:48 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] is now known as Cuxedo[Qyou] 14:31:51 also not related to runelocks 14:34:31 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:34:55 nonethousand: if you started the game in a version with vaults in depths and then transferred, the entrance will still be in depths 14:35:28 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:52 -!- WaspMonolith has quit [Client Quit] 14:35:52 elliptic, ah that might be the case. I don't have a rune lock on depths either 14:36:04 but I suspect that might have been removed when I transfered 14:36:22 you do have one on Vaults, though 14:37:01 the rune lock check is: !is_existing_level(level_id(BRANCH_VAULTS, 1) 14:37:24 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:37:44 kilobyte, thank you, I see 14:41:38 -!- Dalvant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:43:46 -!- Cuxedo[Qyou] is now known as Tuxedo[Qyou] 14:48:59 Any thoughts or strongly negative reactions to 0007474 (Asterion)? I ask because I'd like to finish him up (or him off) before moving on to other things. Latest state is that he has a cap of 2 for his greater servant spell.. 14:50:07 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:17 -!- Nickslevaffel is now known as Isvaffel 14:53:33 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 14:54:40 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:20 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:03:11 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Quitting] 15:04:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 15:04:43 -!- ark__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:12:03 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:16:50 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:22:43 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:04 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 15:25:37 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:25:59 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:27:34 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:28:13 orb of electricity is nasty 15:28:16 !lg . xl=18 x=dam 15:28:16 12. [dam=102] KiloByte the Fetichist (L18 FoAr), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, killed themself with a badly aimed orb of electricity on Elf:1 on 2013-11-11 12:28:04, with 140098 points after 33798 turns and 3:04:07. 15:29:10 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 15:31:49 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:02 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:27 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 15:43:04 -!- Morphy_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:43:52 why does he use the same colour as regular minotaurs? 15:44:06 they're an unthing outside Labs, yeah, but still... 15:45:55 -!- ark__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:48:12 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:09 -!- gammafunk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:49:09 -!- gammafunk_ is now known as gammafunk 15:50:16 idea: let's move birdfolk (harpies, four tengu) from H to Q 15:50:16 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:50:28 -!- gammafunk has quit [Client Quit] 15:50:29 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:50:42 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:51:24 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:51:31 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:32 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:51:36 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:53:39 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:53:56 -!- Cryp71c_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:07 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:56:04 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 15:56:45 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:57:25 kilobyte: l (they're dinosaurs, after all) 15:57:33 -!- Giavanni6 has quit [] 15:57:49 and give more l feathers 15:57:56 apparantly dinosaurs have feathers now 15:58:09 a dinosaur end to lair would be amazing 15:58:24 also, dinosaur skeletons 16:00:23 * kilobyte ponders letting Kiku spawn tyrannosaur skeletons. 16:03:11 does anyone have comments for Asterion? I got commits for Frances->Asterion ready to push. 16:03:46 issues: same colour as minotaurs, no speech, depth choice? 16:04:35 -!- Medar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:09:07 add some dialogue that varies based on what levels of horns mut the player has 16:13:43 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:14:48 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:37 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:25:54 -!- y2s82_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 16:33:04 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:33:41 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:34:16 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:05 can I make him taupe colored 16:36:07 it's very soothing 16:36:36 actually not aware of conventions for coloring uniques, or monsters in general 16:37:23 as lightmagenta as possible 16:37:55 Eronarn: Were you the one who got nets to be that color? 16:40:15 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 16:41:57 depths is D:20-, Swamp:$, Snake:$, Shoals:$, Spider:$, Vaults:2-, Crypt, Forest, Blade, Tomb btw 16:42:00 <|amethyst> nets aren't lightmagenta, they're magenta 16:42:02 for asterion 16:42:22 dang, only magenta 16:43:01 <|amethyst> gammafunk: D:20- doesn't make sense anymore, maybe Depths but then remove S:$ 16:43:02 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: gn8] 16:43:19 gammafunk: nets? color? i don't play crawl, what are you talking about 16:43:23 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:42 Eronarn: You should try it some time. I recommend giving a lava orc a try 16:44:39 |amethyst: Yeah, I notice that sojobo no longer appears at lair branch ends, now that you mention it 16:44:49 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:45:51 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:45:59 -!- syllogism has quit [] 16:46:41 is there any convention for setting unique colors? norris and rupert are lightred, but freddie is green 16:47:45 New branch created: asterion (5 commits) 16:47:47 03gammafunk02 {kilobyte} 07[asterion] * 0.14-a0-990-g67a91f4: Asterion, a late-game unique minotaur of Makhleb 10(3 days ago, 11 files, 154+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=67a91f4d9430 16:47:47 03kilobyte02 07[asterion] * 0.14-a0-991-gbf5721d: Uglify spacing, use title case for spell names. 10(85 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf5721dd5a6b 16:47:47 03kilobyte02 07[asterion] * 0.14-a0-992-gf74622c: Link/desc Asterion's spells. 10(76 minutes ago, 1 file, 13+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f74622c2aa97 16:47:47 03kilobyte02 07[asterion] * 0.14-a0-993-gfef3503: Replace Frances by Asterion. 10(65 minutes ago, 18 files, 9+ 112-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fef3503f6fcb 16:47:47 03kilobyte02 07[asterion] * 0.14-a0-994-gce9ae60: Move Sojobo from D:20- to Depths. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce9ae6030e7b 16:48:07 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49:16 meh, at least the 2nd commit screams "squash me" 16:49:43 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:48 that french spacing... 16:50:15 <|amethyst> gammafunk: try to find something untaken, which unfortunately doesn't work: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs-narrow.html 16:50:48 that's why I suggested moving bird-people away 16:51:02 although conflicts between uniques are quite ok 16:51:12 so frances is gone? nice 16:51:31 if no one says anything in her defense 16:51:41 but I agree with your feeling 16:51:41 <|amethyst> wheals: that's a branch so it hasn't happened yet 16:51:56 <|amethyst> kilobyte: if not Q, then b has lots of space 16:52:13 i know, but it's nice since she's not very interesting 16:52:23 though this guy looks pretty scary 16:52:24 what's wrong with frances? 16:52:37 if I have a save from before Vaults and the lock were recently moved and have explored to d:16, should I wait until I find V (in depths) before updating or just expect it to automagically work? 16:52:38 she summons demons 16:52:41 that's it 16:52:46 that is not actually true 16:52:51 well, she also has conj 16:53:08 Frances (08@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 121 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 29 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(93) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 2119 | Sp: throw icicle (3d23), demon, haste, iron shot (3d26) | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 16:53:08 %??frances 16:53:23 also she's usually taken care of fast enough that i didn't know she did anything else 16:53:25 she's not my favorite unique or anything but I think she's fairly distinct from other uniques nowadays 16:53:37 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 16:53:39 rchandra: you will get the V entrance wherever it would spawn in the version you started your game in 16:53:48 like, what is the argument for removing her? 16:53:51 asterion is like frances++ in terms of difficulty, although she's gotten lucky in arena a couple times vs asterion 16:53:52 yeah, frances is a good solid unique in the "not everything needs to be bacon" sort of way 16:53:58 thanks, kilobyte 16:54:03 <|amethyst> elliptic: that Asterion is a another demon summoner 16:54:14 |amethyst: they don't even summon the same demons... 16:54:36 summon demon is just one of 4 spells 16:54:51 Asterion and Frances are somewhat redundant, Asterion is a good deal less boring 16:55:21 Frances has similar abilities, but her level of difficulty is significantly lower 16:55:24 -!- nonethousand has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:55:27 yeah, but she doesn't do anything unique... any lich does what she does, better 16:55:52 difficulty alone doesn't make a good unique (see: Lamia) 16:55:55 not all uniques have to outdo particularly dangerous enemies, especially if they show up earlier 16:56:36 I agree that she is sort of lich-ish, but I still don't see the problem with that 16:56:42 I'd remove frederick long before her 16:57:00 that's doable too :) 16:57:23 especially if asterion is supposed to be more at the frederick difficulty level? 16:57:47 Frederick (03@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 21 | HP: 159 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 27 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 3749 | Sp: mystic blast (3d25), b.cold (3d30), invisibility, iron shot (3d36) | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 16:57:47 %??frederick 17:01:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:03:08 yes, frederick is just big conjurations dude 17:03:31 Freddie beat asterion only 1 time in 12 in arena 17:03:37 frances actually did a bit better 17:03:45 -!- Ur-Quan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:04:18 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:04:27 -!- Gmork has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:04:44 greater destruction is the more interesting spell 17:04:46 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:05:26 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05:31 no different from just having the seven component spells, though 17:06:08 yes, including spells that weren't meant to have that range, arguably 17:06:23 hmm... they could be inlined, with the list trimmed 17:07:07 -!- orionstein is now known as orionstein_away 17:11:13 WOAT (L22 DrTm) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 675: ASSERT failed: shop->type of 4294967295 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_SHOPS (13) (Depths:4) 17:11:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:11:40 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:11:46 -!- Brokkr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:13:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:49 -!- Voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:21:14 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:22:10 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-990-gda70141: Move Sojobo from D:20- to Depths. 10(37 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=da701410d929 17:23:10 !lm * crash -log 17:23:11 5708. 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Use !messages to read it. 17:59:49 !messages 17:59:50 (1/1) Grunt said (1d 22h 16m 10s ago): This guy could use a tile, if you're up to the challenge: http://sprunge.us/AWGQ 18:00:43 hohoho 18:01:31 !tell Bloax Grunt said (1d 22h 16m 10s ago): This guy could use a tile, if you're up to the challenge: http://sprunge.us/AWGQ 18:01:31 Bloaxor: OK, I'll let bloax know. 18:02:24 How much HP does it have? 18:02:50 tengu reaver (13H) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 17 | HP: 66-102 | AC/EV: 2/17 | Dam: 27, 11, 11 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(68) | XP: 2067 | Sp: b.lightning (3d22), battlesphere, freezing cloud (2d27) / b.magma (3d26), battlesphere, fireball (3d27) / b.venom (3d21), battlesphere, poisonous cloud (3d11) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 18:02:50 %??Tengu reaver 18:02:55 Lightli: 150 If I'm reading that correctly. 18:03:04 Seems like a serpant as large as the world could use a Pan Lord size tile. 18:03:04 Oh 18:03:08 oh 18:03:46 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-991-g0cd0df5: Fix a lua crash in hangedman_pleasuredromes. 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0cd0df5e570c 18:03:46 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-992-g425ad7f: Axe an obsolete comment. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=425ad7ff8ea1 18:03:48 And yeah squeezing it into something smaller would be pointless. 18:04:20 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: ninja kapow!] 18:06:57 rue125 (L27 FoWr) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4343: ASSERT failed: count of 700 out of range 0 (0) .. MAX_MONSTERS (700) (D (Sprint)) 18:07:27 * kilobyte is not sure what's interesting there. A constrictor that casts poisonous cloud. 18:07:32 rue125 (L27 FoWr) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4343: ASSERT failed: count of 700 out of range 0 (0) .. MAX_MONSTERS (700) (D (Sprint)) 18:07:39 effectively a stronger naga 18:07:47 rue125 (L27 FoWr) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4343: ASSERT failed: count of 700 out of range 0 (0) .. MAX_MONSTERS (700) (D (Sprint)) 18:08:06 !lm * crash sprint -log 18:08:06 389. rue125, XL27 FoWr, T:352 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/rue125/crash-rue125-20131122-000730.txt 18:10:29 rue125 (L27 FoWr) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4343: ASSERT failed: count of 700 out of range 0 (0) .. MAX_MONSTERS (700) (D (Sprint)) 18:10:43 rue125 (L27 FoWr) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4343: ASSERT failed: count of 700 out of range 0 (0) .. MAX_MONSTERS (700) (D (Sprint)) 18:12:09 rue125 (L27 FoWr) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4343: ASSERT failed: count of 700 out of range 0 (0) .. MAX_MONSTERS (700) (D (Sprint)) 18:12:16 hehe, "You hear a shout! (x27^27) 18:13:31 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 18:14:05 <|amethyst> %git 9232e2cf62fe475bdf3a9ab10fb0aeacf6a82102 18:14:05 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-432-g9232e2c: Don't impose TSO penance for reflecting poison/draining (you still get xp). 10(4 weeks ago, 10 files, 23+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9232e2cf62fe 18:14:14 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-993-g0bc0d71: Fix an off-by-1 assert failure. 10(67 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bc0d71566b7 18:14:53 * kilobyte pressed the cßo rebuild button, rue125 won't let us live otherwise. 18:16:04 whoa, this depths level looks like it has a dis end or something, it isn't connected to the level though (was trying to use ?mapp to find vaults) 18:16:44 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16:59 -!- Zilis has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:16:59 I see mu's vault 18:17:20 that's mu's large themed vault 18:17:21 is a large disconnected vault like that normal? 18:17:25 mu_gated_community 18:17:32 see the gates? 18:17:35 you have to disint them 18:17:45 it's a pretty fun vault, but it looks fine 18:17:55 I mean there's no way there from the rest of the level 18:18:06 yeah you use disint 18:18:08 on the grates 18:18:18 rue125 (L27 FoWr) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4343: ASSERT failed: count of 700 out of range 0 (0) .. MAX_MONSTERS (700) (D (Sprint)) 18:18:40 rue125 (L27 FoWr) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4343: ASSERT failed: count of 700 out of range 0 (0) .. MAX_MONSTERS (700) (D (Sprint)) 18:18:41 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:19:06 rue125 (L27 FoWr) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4343: ASSERT failed: count of 700 out of range 0 (0) .. MAX_MONSTERS (700) (D (Sprint)) 18:19:11 oh, ok. thanks. on the map it just looks like wall 18:19:34 rue125 (L27 FoWr) ERROR in 'tags.cc' at line 4343: ASSERT failed: count of 700 out of range 0 (0) .. MAX_MONSTERS (700) (D (Sprint)) 18:19:44 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:20:00 rue125: patience!!!!1!elebenty-one! 18:20:27 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-993-g0bc0d71 (34) 18:22:14 I'm waiting for Grunt to make a pun with "rue" 18:25:32 -!- tigertrap has quit [Quit: tigertrap] 18:25:42 kilobyte: I just told rue125 aka tigertrap about waiting before trying meatsprint again 18:25:46 he asked in ##crawl 18:26:03 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:26:11 ^Sizzell 18:26:39 Out of curiosity, why do so many branches of Crawl exist with uncommitted stuff? (I'm thinking of multisprint and mumra's evokables) 18:27:03 I told him 30 mins to be conservative, but he just took off 18:28:06 reaver__: 50 on one of my boxes, 42 on another. Some may be the same, and this includes already merged stuff. 18:28:35 kilobytes: So it's just to much to sort through? 18:28:57 some are debugging stuff, too 18:29:20 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:29:39 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:31:20 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:42 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:54 -!- Nakat0my has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:32:29 uncommitted stuff, somehow on branches? 18:32:32 eh? 18:34:01 SamB there's plenty of branches with content that has never been in Trunk. Example: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=log;h=4baedbe8bf7a479b4dedc71793f636beee4fca14 18:35:00 yeah, mumra was actively working on that branch, but he got a new job and has been busy 18:35:06 that's still committed though 18:35:22 you maybe meant some other word, like merged 18:35:43 SamB: I guess merged would be the word. 18:36:10 nothing says you can pick up where he left off, of course 18:36:13 *you can't 18:36:42 gammafunk: Why? Impolite? Code rot? 18:36:57 double negative 18:37:20 reaver__: Yeah, sorry if that was unclear; you can use that as a basis for making more commits 18:37:50 gammafunk: Oh, I see you were correcting a double negative now. 18:41:42 -!- Zilis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:42:28 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-994-g2ade8af: Fix some more absdepth issues in hangedman_pleasuredromes. 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ade8afc15f4 18:44:33 -!- reaver__ has quit [] 18:45:41 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47:24 ancient champion (08z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-79 | AC/EV: 15/10 | Dam: 32 | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(130), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2111 | Sp: b.draining (3d21), haste, stone arrow (3d21) / b.venom (3d18), animate dead, haunt / iron shot (3d26), haste, b.pain (d15) / mystic blast (3d19), b.slow, haste | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 18:47:24 %??ancient champion 18:47:45 looks like grunt_zot_entry_funnels notoriously causes infinite loops 18:48:37 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:51:05 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:51:27 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:52:50 o_O 18:52:53 What kind of infinite loops? 18:53:20 (I know for certain I've seen it place normally before - perhaps there was a change along the way that caused breakage?) 18:54:37 handling this loop even made gdb hang as well :/ 18:54:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 18:54:49 https://angband.pl/tmp/funnels.html (as the morgue has COLOURED_DUMPS on) 18:56:54 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 18:56:55 quite easily reproducible, although not every time 18:58:16 -!- Amilir has left ##crawl-dev 18:58:19 -!- Amilir has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:58:27 Is it consistently with layout_basic? 18:59:05 not sure, I aborted most cases due to hanging gdb 18:59:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:01:08 one layout_basic 19:01:19 I just got a hang locally and it is also layout_basic. 19:01:34 (brb, need to eat dinner) 19:03:08 I'm guessing this is a quirk in the vault exposing a latent bug in layout_basic - do you see the one-tile-wide diagonal passageways? I'm making a guess that filling those in will cause it to not hang. 19:03:42 http://pastebin.com/PmsC7vZh 19:03:47 I think I might have made it too hard now 19:04:02 wait don't check it yet I forgot to test it 19:05:49 and it broke brb 19:05:56 ?/revenant 19:05:59 ??revenant 19:05:59 revenant[1/1]: A Crypt monster with {ghostly_fireball}, {ghostly_flames}, {dispel_undead}, and {blink_away}. Spectrals from ghostly flames can push past it, so try not to get pinned by them in corridors. 19:06:46 (Can someone PLEASE fix the bug that makes it so crawl doesn't even spit out error messages when vaults break? It's annoying not knowing what's wrong) 19:07:46 depth entrance is half stairs half gate by rchandra 19:09:35 (And no, it happens for tiles too) 19:10:28 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:27 command prompt, cd [paste folder path], crawl.exe, lightli 19:11:37 [it's still astounding nobody fixed it, but] 19:12:45 also while you're presumably not allowing a decent chance for twenty reaching skeletal warriors all close to each other please re-organize your monster definitions you lazy butt 19:13:04 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:13:09 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:13:36 k 19:14:53 (also even if they all swarm it is pretty silly to have such a symmetrical large chunk of monsters) 19:15:31 The idea was for the skeletal warriors to provide cover for the ancient guardians while they spammed bolt of venom and haunt 19:16:38 grunt's establishment of monsters with vault-defined always-one-set spells it is still spoilery to do this in the first place and blah blah blah blah blah 19:17:03 (there are also more than enough versions of crypt monsters that can fire through other undead) 19:17:55 k, made it so the spell set is more normal 19:19:30 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:19:52 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:19:59 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:14 rather annoyed that few of my leftover vault concepts can really be re-fashioned for extra depths entries 19:20:35 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:24 I'm thinking of giving all the monsters their own glyph so I can make it more variable 19:22:30 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:22:39 Like have a 50/50 chance of replacing all the skeletal warriors with phantasmal warriors 19:22:56 (which would probably make it vastly easier since there is much less reaching, but whatever) 19:23:06 ??phantasmal warrior 19:23:06 phantasmal warrior[1/2]: Crypt monsters that can temporarily harm your MR with their melee (like a scroll of vulnerability), and can use Blink Close. 19:23:14 phantasmal warrior (09W) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 34-66 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 2612(vuln) | 07undead, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(72), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 544 | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 19:23:14 %??phantasmal warrior 19:23:23 skeletal warrior (10z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 55-75 | AC/EV: 15/10 | Dam: 25 | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil | Res: 06magic(93), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 771 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 19:23:23 %??skeletal warrior 19:24:16 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Client Quit] 19:24:31 ??pm 19:24:31 private messages[1/1]: If you need to read all of a topic, use these (/msg Sequell ??foo) instead, so you don't choke up discussion on the whole channel. Sequell will respond in private. Henzell will also respond to some ! (foo) commands in private, Gretell will respond to @ commands in private, and Sequell will respond to !lg, !lm, and even !tv. 19:24:42 -!- johnny0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:25:05 oh duh 19:25:16 unknown monster: "decayed_bog_body" 19:25:16 %??decayed_bog_body 19:25:24 that's a vault define anyhow 19:25:35 and it's listed as having bolt of cold, but seems to have throw frost (like it should) 19:26:00 by listed, I mean in x v it says "bolt of cold" 19:26:15 decayed bog body (03n) | Spd: 10 (swim: 140%) | HD: 3 | HP: 15-24 | AC/EV: 1/9 | Dam: 25, 412(cold:3-8) | 07undead, 10doors, amphibious, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(20), 05fire, 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 04rot | XP: 50 | Sp: throw frost (3d5), b.slow, corpse rot | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 19:26:15 %?? bog body hd:3 spells:throw_frost;slow;corpse_rot name:decayed n_adj n_noc 19:26:22 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=grep&s=decayed 19:26:30 such a difficult task I know 19:26:53 yeah I found it but 19:27:00 the problem is that the x v listing is wrong 19:27:42 perhaps it just doesn't sync to vault define spell sets 19:27:46 in general, I mean 19:27:51 oh, right 19:27:54 yeah, it wouldn't 19:28:12 wonder if there's an open bug for that 19:28:47 I'll file one just in case not 19:31:23 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:33:09 kilobyte: if you look at the dump you provided, it is attempting to _make_trail in the upper right diagonal gap; thus dgn-layouts.cc:354-366 loops infinitely. 19:33:33 ...because the square it is trying to make_trail from is boxed in in cardinal directions. 19:34:10 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:35:44 I see two solutions: 1. make the gaps solid (a trivial workaround), or 2. let make_train know it painted itself into a corner 19:35:45 I'm also pondering if having two revenants behind the "boss fight" to heal them is a bit too nasty 19:35:58 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 19:35:58 kilobyte: doing both is probably a good thing. 19:36:17 Two profane servitors is already nasty enough without anything healing them 19:36:32 kilobyte: ideally it doesn't pick a start point that's boxed in like that... 19:37:53 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 19:39:02 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:32 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:08 Monsters with vault-defined spell sets display incorrect spell listings in examination screen by gammafunk 19:45:52 you are kidding me 19:45:58 Even the cmd method doesn't print out an error message 19:46:13 Why the hell hasn't this been fixed yet 19:47:12 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-995-g02ba386: Let _make_trail() fail if it painted itself into a corner. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=02ba3863cec3 19:49:58 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 19:50:54 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54:17 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:54:31 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:54:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 19:56:58 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-996-ga2f29cb: Don't try to _make_trail from a boxed-in start location. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 21+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2f29cb57bf7 19:56:58 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-997-gd0a9304: Fill in diagonal empty spaces on grunt_zot_entry_funnels. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d0a9304e0fc4 19:57:08 ...quick, come up with three more commits!!! 19:57:13 <_< 19:57:38 I don't have the commitment 19:57:55 * Grunt sics Asterion on gammafunk. 19:58:05 Too busy figuring out what's wrong with my vault to learn how to push commits 19:58:09 I'm working on one, sheesh 19:58:19 * Grunt also sics Jörmungandr on gammafunk. 19:58:25 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:58:31 the umlaut hurts most of all 19:58:49 I like how because of the nature of the hacks kb didn't even notice worldserp has flame clouds 19:59:06 it's poison cloud clouds I think 19:59:11 It's both. 19:59:11 -!- Basil has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59:12 (both) 19:59:16 oh nice 19:59:20 flaming poison clouds? 19:59:26 (Nessos clouds) 19:59:29 oh god it's nessos in a snake costume 20:00:07 but if jorymonkgander replaces lamia will he get her rune vault 20:00:09 I thought to myself, when 1kb said pcloud is kind of boring, "why not make it flame+poison…nah that's a hack" 20:00:17 (quick someone make flaming freezing miasma clouds) 20:00:31 !send Lightli chaos clouds 20:00:31 Sending chaos clouds to Lightli. 20:00:45 jorgcyproca 20:00:49 oh 20:00:55 Flaming freezing miasma chaos clouds then 20:01:12 Lightli: my point was that chaos clouds do pretty much all of those <_< 20:01:18 oh 20:01:47 something something apocalypse shamblers 20:01:49 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:03:02 pigform clouds for the aporkalypse! 20:03:07 -!- wack has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:03:17 burning ice apocalypse shamblers 20:03:23 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03:56 -!- sprort has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 20:04:29 four pigmen of the aporkalypese 20:04:33 since it appeals to an infamous sense of sadism, grunt, would you be interested in looking at doing that zig change I've always mentioned with zigs 20:06:45 Grunt: I don't think chaos clouds actually do any of those? 20:06:53 at least I don't remember them doing damage 20:07:14 elliptic: hm, I remember chaos clouds doing flame/freeze damage at least. Maybe I'm thinking of something else. 20:07:20 Grunt: I don't understand this commit: are there any non-edge cases when _make_trail() can start from such a location? No other vault I can think of has those, and the function will just try 200 times then try another. 20:07:22 can't chaos clouds activate miscasts and thus technically potentially do those 20:07:25 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 20:07:53 so it's code that needs maintenance that optimizes a very unlikely case 20:08:14 ...hmmm, I don't think I've ever actually read the source for chaos 20:09:55 kilobyte: I'd rather not have to go through this again at such a time as someone comes up with another vault that has a diagonal passage like that. 20:10:00 it can do miscasts, yeah 20:10:07 case CLOUD_CHAOS: if (coinflip()) { melee_attack::chaos_affect_actor(act); return true; } break; default: break; 20:10:24 pretty rare though to get one that does damage 20:11:22 // A chaos self-attack increases the chance of certain effects, due to a short-circuit/feedback/resonance/whatever. 20:11:31 unsurpsingly chaos is chaotic 20:11:37 * Grunt watches people play the slightly adjusted Snake. 20:11:53 It bothers me somehow that naga mages and greater nagas have the same spell set. 20:12:13 I always thought that was the point 20:12:41 it would make more sense if we renamed greater naga -> naga battlemage IMO 20:12:47 naga reaver 20:12:49 (what?) 20:13:15 (don't actually do that <_<) 20:13:34 Grunt: you're…vetoing…a battlemage? 20:13:40 Grunt: why would that be a problem? The code can handle such a case just fine. 20:13:55 I should have renamed those isk's wizlab demg "deep elf battlemages" in my patch, siiiiigh 20:13:57 gammafunk: No, I'm vetoing my own suggestion. 20:14:52 Grunt: btw did you watch qw play the adjusted Snake the other day? 20:14:59 elliptic: I did not! 20:15:01 also renaming greater naga leaves the only "greater" enemy to be mummies [and demons] 20:15:35 -!- CeleryMan has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15:42 !lm qw br.enter=snake -tv:channel=qwtv:>> 20:15:43 3. qw, XL17 GrBe, T:25529 (milestone) requested for qwtv (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 20:16:27 * tenofswords mumbles about gargoyles 20:17:38 -!- pelotron_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:18:48 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:00 ...nice guardian serpent performance there 20:19:01 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:19:09 Good chain recall. 20:19:17 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-998-g353527f: Make fire bats a bit more adequate. 10(25 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=353527ff4403 20:19:17 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-999-gc9c1fed: Finish degateization of Depths stairs. 10(67 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9c1fed0402a 20:19:19 yes that was the highlight 20:19:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:19:48 !lm qw br.enter=snake -tv:channel=qwtv:cancel 20:19:49 3. qw, XL17 GrBe, T:25529 (milestone) cancel requested for qwtv (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 20:20:51 do polar bears not hibernate? 20:20:59 rC+ 20:21:37 also, only pregnant ones 20:21:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:23:20 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:54 really need to communicate immutability of level edges more 20:26:37 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 20:28:25 -!- sprort has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 20:31:18 why do large rocks look like randarts 20:31:44 or, well, arts in general 20:32:51 -!- sprort has quit [Client Quit] 20:36:51 SamB: they were created by stone giant artificers 20:37:00 <|amethyst> why do sling bullets look like stones? 20:37:09 tiles_reasons 20:37:38 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:38:05 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:39:51 ontoclasm: well, why do they look like stones? 20:40:53 stone tiles look nothing like large rock tiles 20:41:06 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:42:21 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:45:59 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all!] 20:47:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:21 -!- sprort has quit [Client Quit] 20:53:16 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:55:47 SamB: because uh 20:55:57 * ontoclasm gestures. 20:56:03 * ontoclasm flickers and vanishes! 20:56:14 ontoclasm: you better be gesturing with a drawing implement! 20:56:19 You are wearing: f - a ring of see invisible (right hand) 20:57:07 ontoclasm, btw, a unique I'm working on that could use a tile (I poked Bloax about it too): http://sprunge.us/AWGQ 20:57:18 (I don't think this is the final design, but I'm lacking further ideas at this point.) 20:58:36 -!- nonethousand has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:31 the two cloud types will clobber each other I assume, but that's a minor thing 21:00:34 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:36 people hiding in poison clouds from flame clouds from the same monster sounds neat 21:02:32 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:07:03 grunt: should non-lab minotaur get good weapons / armour again like the brief period they were in Forest, if they're going to spawn in Depths 21:08:21 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:11:02 Hm, I didn't realise that code went away. 21:11:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:12:19 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:14:28 having stared at the Depths mon-pick for a while in finangling with depths entry vaults I am kind of annoyed about a few things 21:14:49 but whatever it'll be stuff to address after I fix everything else 21:15:49 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:10 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:14 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 21:21:44 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 21:30:40 Wait, there are plans to make minotaurs spawn in depths? 21:30:47 Anything else being planned to get added? 21:32:02 they should make depths maze encompass vaults, with a guaranteed minotaur 21:32:50 who's "they" 21:32:57 -!- Zifmia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34:07 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:34:08 ??they 21:34:08 devteam[1/13]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:admin:devteam 21:34:33 doh 21:34:41 this is ##crawl-dev 21:35:32 slightly bad placement, yes 21:35:52 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35:56 wheals: is there also a guaranteed wand of digging? 21:35:56 <|amethyst> "y'all" is the correct pronoun there 21:36:20 -!- Zifmia has quit [Client Quit] 21:36:39 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-1000-g96fe80a: Equip minotaurs that naturally appear outside of labyrinths. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 41+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=96fe80a0866f 21:37:05 is there also an elevenking with a pick-axe 21:37:15 Grunt: That commit number is awful conspicuous 21:37:19 <3 21:37:23 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37:23 I wasn't even aiming for that! 21:37:29 i thought that commit would be one giving them wands of digging 21:38:25 welp, I guess I'll have to claim 1001 instead 21:40:25 -!- pwnmonkey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:43:26 -!- pwnmonkey_ has quit [Client Quit] 21:58:52 -!- tenofswords has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:59:07 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 22:02:06 Translucent walls in spider have wrong tile by pubby 22:03:45 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:04:10 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:13:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:16:37 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:16:48 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:18:55 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:20:16 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:22:47 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:17 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 22:26:36 -!- Kaydis has quit [Quit: I know! I'll unwield my axe at the redback spider!] 22:26:47 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 22:31:35 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:44:06 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:44:32 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:47:35 Fix yet another unlinked items bug; and six more small tweaks. by blackcustard 22:47:35 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:53:21 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:57:20 -!- Rebenga has quit [Quit: Goodbye, World] 22:58:40 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 23:00:57 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:59 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com] 23:05:25 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:07:10 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:08:04 -!- sprort has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 23:10:08 -!- orionstein is now known as orionstein_away 23:10:23 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:10:37 -!- SupermanBananaX has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:12:50 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:14:20 -!- pwnmonke_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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It was never being triggered. 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 6+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=34c03c465247 23:28:09 03blackcustard02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-1007-gacdcbbe: Fix an unlinked items bug with corruption and door sealing. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=acdcbbebe091 23:28:09 03blackcustard02 {|amethyst} 07[stone_soup-0.13] * 0.13.0-60-gd357b05: Add feature descriptions for sealed gates. (cherry picked from commit b7b8715484d8b8efb3339c99b27cf4bbdb430c79) 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d357b05e76c4 23:28:09 03blackcustard02 {|amethyst} 07[stone_soup-0.13] * 0.13.0-61-gca80d4e: Do not stash track sealed staircases. (cherry picked from commit 846501a2c22839bb8d447db502d5ae7a7e1361f7) 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca80d4e721dc 23:28:09 03blackcustard02 {|amethyst} 07[stone_soup-0.13] * 0.13.0-62-g2cedbcb: Fix runed door hint. It was never being triggered. (cherry picked from commit 34c03c465247dc2086e4e86e34c1023a7cab794a) 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 6+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cedbcb5974d 23:28:09 03blackcustard02 {|amethyst} 07[stone_soup-0.13] * 0.13.0-63-gbb6e277: Fix an unlinked items bug with corruption and door sealing. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb6e2773c5f2 23:29:23 <|amethyst> gah, I forgot to insert the blank lines in the cherry picks 23:30:32 <|amethyst> stupid -x 23:33:45 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:35:00 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:35:51 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:36:11 -!- eb has quit [] 23:36:53 maybe you should send in a patch for git to make it always add those? 23:37:59 -!- lazarenth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:40:33 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-1007-gacdcbbe (34) 23:44:43 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:46:57 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:47:46 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 23:56:30 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:58:57 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev