00:01:38 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 00:02:22 oh god a snake pit buff 00:02:25 what have you done 00:04:48 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13.0-59-g13bd910 00:05:49 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 00:06:00 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-932-g154aeca (34) 00:06:27 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-933-g5ded1f0 (34) 00:06:33 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:07:33 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:07:46 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 00:08:22 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:28 -!- eb has quit [] 00:16:22 -!- Insomniak has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:13 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-933-g5ded1f0 (34) 00:17:27 (Idea for a new/replacement Snake unique now that lindwurms spawn there: Jörmungandr; possibly breathes flame and poison clouds and has a very poisonous bite.) 00:17:49 -!- inspector071 has quit [Quit: inspector071] 00:20:32 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:23:12 (oh, and can coil around the player -> constriction) 00:23:27 do you mean nessos clouds 00:23:43 No, two independent clouds. :b 00:24:02 You are engulfed in flaming poison! 00:25:20 -!- Ashyr has quit [] 00:26:24 having the world serpent fit inside the dungeon sounds odd 00:28:02 Maybe in the Crawl 'verse the legend just grew out of control from "unbelievably large serpent" to "serpent bigger than the world" to ... 00:29:00 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 00:30:00 "Actually, it's really just about the size of a yak" 00:30:42 It's a small world after all. 00:30:55 you just 00:30:56 never 00:30:59 miss a chance do you 00:31:10 just give it poison cloud and ignite poison 00:31:30 make sure it doesn't set itself on fire or something 00:31:48 It's worth noting that this also makes it one of the few uniques with a good reason to kill the player 00:32:11 "MUST... 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THE LEGEND..." 00:32:17 I mean it can't let anyone live to tell the story of how the legendary world serpent is really only about yak-sized, can it 00:32:22 exactly 00:33:04 hmm i personally liked seeing word of recall and the ally blink thing as unique spells 00:33:37 also wont spd 15 mean they recall faster or get these spells off just more often 00:34:51 snake being vaults 2 seems annoying I guess 00:35:15 -!- Hal9k has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:35:40 -!- Hal9k has quit [Changing host] 00:35:43 I wonder how it plays, blink allies encircling is honestly really obnoxious and has never not felt like that but possibly it's better if you're not also being anchored 00:36:40 yes i actually find it rather not fun, since it just instantly ports a bunch of draconians on you at once 00:37:10 It might feel worse in runelock territory, even 00:37:20 hope you like poison spit 00:37:35 hope you like being surrounded by enemies with constrict 00:37:41 (that's the dim anchor sub) 00:38:09 i mean its a cool idea to blink an ally of yours on an enemy, i just wish it wasnt a group of dudes instantly in one turn 00:38:30 possibly warriors and greaters at first rune time are relatively worse than draconians in zot, as dangerous as that is 00:38:44 although of course some are just normal nagas I guess 00:39:12 yes i was thinking about snake:5 vault being rather annoying so you dont get two gnagas on you at once 00:41:59 -!- Snufkin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:42:27 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 00:43:43 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-933-g5ded1f0 00:45:50 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:15 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:36 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:36 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 00:46:36 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:42 -!- juls is now known as master_j 01:11:56 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:12:42 -!- Croesus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:16:54 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:39:08 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:50:03 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:33 -!- Nstar has quit [Quit: Nstar] 01:52:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:00:05 -!- shock_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12:58 -!- keszocze_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:23:03 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:23:18 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:35 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:26:45 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:27:07 -!- ButtMuncher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:30:32 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:31:09 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:35:48 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:37:19 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 02:41:32 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:42:34 -!- Alumjha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:44:48 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:46:54 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:58:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:59:17 -!- Somefellow has quit [Quit: ZNC - 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Use !messages to read it. 09:50:18 !messages 09:50:18 (1/1) |amethyst said (1d 21h 4m 55s ago): I closed #7748 myself, but left #7753 for you to close 09:55:17 -!- DJgamer98 has quit [Client Quit] 09:56:43 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 09:58:35 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:59:05 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:30 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:39 monster_speech.txt cites @pronoun@ which doesn't exist by Whales 10:11:17 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 10:15:36 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:58 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:17:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:21:52 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:22:24 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:30 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:26:39 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:27:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:37:50 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:41:59 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Use !messages to read it. 15:06:40 -!- inspector071 has quit [Client Quit] 15:07:22 have hell hogs been kicked out of the abyss yet 15:07:35 (also as things made of lightning they probably don't need to drop corpses, which is the true solution for them not having corpse tiles) 15:08:30 -!- djanatyn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:09:30 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:29 -!- Insomniak has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:14:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 15:16:44 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 15:19:49 -!- djanatyn has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:21:49 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 15:22:09 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:24:23 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:34 -!- Ladykiller69 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:42 quick suggestion: 15:27:56 praying anywhere w/o sacstuff opens the god menu 15:29:52 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 15:30:10 would be convenient I think 15:35:32 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:19 um 15:37:28 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/Screenies/dumb/fierystairsofdeath.png this is bound to kill someone sooner rather than later 15:43:17 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:23 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:33 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I'm not convinced poison needs to change other than interface behaving nicer by default (with pressing 5), but if it does yours looks solid. 16:24:05 !messages 16:24:06 (1/1) rchandra said (23h 4m 18s ago): Killing the player (aftersome turns) might or might not be better than rot, though. 16:24:19 !seen evilmike 16:24:19 I last saw evilmike at Sun Nov 17 23:31:38 2013 UTC (22h 52m 41s ago) quitting with message 'Read error: Connection reset by peer'. 16:24:34 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 16:29:12 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:30:08 !tell Grunt https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/Screenies/dumb/fierystairsofdeath.png this is bound to kill someone 16:30:09 Bloax: OK, I'll let grunt know. 16:30:16 just in case 16:31:00 !seen galehar 16:31:00 Sorry dpeg, I haven't seen galehar. 16:31:04 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:04 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 16:31:04 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:18 Sequell is lying! 16:31:33 -!- thened has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:32:14 sequell's seen db got reset over the weekend 16:32:29 Yes, I interpreted it as "haven't seen galehar in a long while". 16:32:49 He does speak up in the forum these days, though. 16:38:43 oh, Glaciate patch just rolled in <3 16:39:24 Patch to implement Glaciate by Siegurt 16:39:32 -!- lavos1 is now known as lavos 16:40:01 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:12 -!- inspector071 has quit [Quit: inspector071] 16:42:18 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:44:24 -!- waspmonolith has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:44:28 * Grunt bothers dpeg. 16:44:47 dpeg: I'm at work, but can I help you with something? 16:44:49 Hi there! People like Depths, it seems, and especially how hard it is :) 16:44:55 <3 16:45:10 Grunt: i'm liking the snake changes, those were you, right? 16:45:43 wheals: Yes :) 16:45:59 There is a proposal by minmay (cannot link but it's the latest in the Rune Lock thread) which reasonably argues to move Vaults to Dungeon:13-16 while keeping the lock. What's your opinion? 16:46:09 -!- floatboth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:46:17 (I think it's fine.) 16:46:40 That sounds plausible; I don't have a strong opini9n either way. 16:46:53 s/9/o/ 16:47:12 (The gargoyle evaporates and reforms as an orc!) 16:47:18 that's alright, I don't think this point is really urgent as long as players die first in the Lair branches and then in Depths, as they should =) 16:48:38 i've died in the lair branches and not in depths 16:48:44 though i guess that proves your point :P 16:49:46 dpeg, btw, unique lindwurm for Snake: Jörmungandr. Thoughts? 16:50:06 i literally read that as jorgrunandr 16:50:19 Grunt: pure love. (I've been listening to Helheim's Jormundgand just now, makes it all the better. Yay, Edda, yay :) 16:50:19 Jorygrunandr 16:50:31 Btw, completely different topic: I have an idea for a slightly more elaborate vault (a "quest") which would need some lua magic. Anyone who wants to help me out? 16:50:32 jorygrumandr 16:51:35 Holy shit 16:51:46 someone actually made a glacier-related ice spell 16:51:46 this quest is about this Elyvilon acolyte trying to free Pikel's slaves... I think it has lots of flavour but I cannot do it myself 16:51:51 was I the cause of that? 16:52:10 Ladykiller69: are you 1010011010 on the forum? 16:52:13 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:52:19 I mentioned it here in chat 16:52:43 Ladykiller69: I think Siegurt saw the idea in the forum, but who knows :) 16:53:03 I'm just gonna be happy about it :D! 16:53:09 btw hows runelock workin out? 16:53:26 Ladykiller69: many people were upset, now they seem to be okay with it 16:53:43 some positive feedback lately 16:53:50 am I completely crazy or is the idea to put Vaults before rune lock somewhat missing the point of rune lock 16:54:01 not really 16:54:09 you're completely crazy 16:54:14 if it doesnt change in difficulty 16:54:25 it really doesnt miss the point 16:54:34 i stand by my idea to rune lock all the portals 16:54:57 it'd just add more choice 16:55:11 Zannick: the idea by evilmike on c-r-d was interesting (need runes as tickets for late branches) 16:55:12 technically depths removes the point of the original rune lock idea 16:55:16 sewer rune lock sounds fun 16:55:20 Zannick: partially 16:55:25 and if someone is batshit enough to go to vaults without having a char that is able to do a lair rune 16:55:42 but the difficulty of depths makes vault's placement silly, which is what i gleaned from evilmike's comments on crd 16:55:45 whats the harm 16:55:56 I sense some people just want vaults:1-4 for the experience for a lair end instead of dealing with the gimmicks in each lair branch, but whatever 16:56:16 well vaults is still incredibly deadly 16:56:25 tenofswords: yes, that's a point. Could be counteracted by moving everything a D level up or so 16:56:30 and grunt said he made Depths specifically for rune lock or not rune lock 16:56:33 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 16:56:41 so it would still be risky 16:56:58 and not missing the point 16:57:01 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:57:11 I'm uneasy about it, but whatever 16:57:17 where was there even a suggestion to put vaults before the rune lock? 16:57:36 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9688&p=136523#p136523 16:57:46 MarvinPA: minmay suggested it just now on the forum but it may have come up elsewhere too 16:57:48 crd? 16:57:56 the suggestion that's been tossed around, here and elsewhere, is to swap vaults and depths 16:58:00 evilmike suggested it on the mailing list 16:58:00 oh ok i was assuming you meant the crd one 16:58:09 Zannick: crawl-ref-discuss mailing list 16:58:11 yes, presumably there the runelock would be for vaults 16:58:21 with depths being a subbranch of vaults 16:58:29 dpeg: that was "in crd?" not "what is crd?" :P 16:58:35 oops, sorry 16:58:41 dpeg: and i mostly agreed, but for flavor and consistency and such i suggested putting rune ticket locks on pan and hell 16:58:56 evilmike's suggestion was a bit harsher, I think -- but I really like that we're getting used to playing with the dungeon structure itself 16:59:32 It would make some thematic sense to put an orb-lock onto Zot, but I won't propose that 16:59:37 * dpeg is not a Panner. 16:59:42 sorry, *onto Pan* 16:59:48 put an orb-lock into tomb 17:00:32 (The Pan lords seem to be the ultimate orb guardians. So it could be argued that to get there you have to have the orb.) 17:00:49 except they come to you when you have the orb... 17:00:53 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:01:08 Zannick: yes? Still makes sense. 17:01:19 "why haven't you come to our party?" 17:01:30 :) 17:02:02 03Translators02 {galehar} 07* 0.14-a0-938-gc7f40b5: [Transifex] Sync. 10(48 minutes ago, 59 files, 1924+ 449-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7f40b562fc6 17:02:14 oh, that post also doesn't even suggest actually moving vaults before the runelock at all 17:02:41 ...whoops 17:03:07 so yeah it looks like a good idea to me maybe, i'd still leave things as-is for a little while though 17:03:49 "Gloorx Vloq is disgusted by your lack of hospitality. Take this draining bolt as a token of his esteem." 17:04:00 MarvinPA: exactly 17:04:13 are the lengths of the lair rune branches going to be shortened? 17:04:16 "An orb? For me? You shouldn't have." 17:04:33 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:04:38 When you don't hand the orb over, Cerebov gets mad. 17:04:43 buppy: who knows? There are no concrete plans at this stage, as far as I know. 17:05:21 buppy: and with the current shortening of D the 0.14 bill is full, I'd say. (I am a proponent of doing these changes slowly and steadily -- no need to run, can afford to walk.) 17:08:16 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:15:37 -!- Brokkr has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:16:04 -!- klz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:20:01 -!- ophanim1 is now known as ophanim 17:22:49 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:25:33 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:32:42 -!- Wolfram has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:34:30 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34:40 -!- Somefellow has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 17:35:09 -!- kelpie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:36:11 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:49 -!- kelpie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:42:05 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:42:36 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:43:22 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:59 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:45:56 -!- kelpie_ is now known as kelpie 17:51:15 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:46 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 18:07:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:34 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:planning 18:16:39 yeesh, that took a while 18:16:40 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:17:27 (not going to even bother with unrand listing) 18:17:43 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:21 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:51 -!- irctc450 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:24:04 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:26:07 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:28:01 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:29:50 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: ninja kapow] 18:30:21 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:31:40 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Client Quit] 18:32:30 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 18:34:51 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:37:55 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:41:37 -!- probablyrobots_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:48:03 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:57:39 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:39 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:57:50 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:58:05 -!- ws has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:01:06 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:55 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:11:06 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:07 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12:23 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:15:05 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:20:17 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:39 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:13 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:26:55 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 19:31:00 -!- Giavanni has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:32:41 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:34:54 What is this "automagic" 19:36:22 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 19:39:48 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41:11 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:53 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:43:03 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:43:33 Somefellow: A way to tab and have it use a spell in the "a" slot 19:46:43 Is it already implemented in git? 19:48:32 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:37 %%git f530a925 19:48:47 forget how to query the bot for git 19:48:50 but that's the commit 19:49:00 %git f530a925 19:49:01 07Naruni02 {elliptic} * 0.14-a0-875-gf530a92: Autofight for conjurers. 10(10 weeks ago, 5 files, 312+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f530a92577d5 19:49:04 there we go 19:49:41 --grep for automagic for the follow-up commits 19:50:03 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:55 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:16 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:55 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:06 %git 19:59:07 07Translators02 {galehar} * 0.14-a0-938-gc7f40b5: [Transifex] Sync. 10(4 hours ago, 59 files, 1924+ 449-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7f40b562fc6 19:59:21 gammafunk, So only for Cj? 19:59:49 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: Good night and good luck to all! :D] 19:59:56 Somefellow: Not sure what you mean. Conjurer refers to a monster-targeting spell 20:00:30 Which in terms of damage, is a conjuration for the most part. 20:00:49 I'm not sure if e.g. haunt or a hex would also work; I presume they would 20:02:39 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:05:41 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:06:47 -!- Bodrick has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:07:09 -!- Mottikins__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:07:45 ahh 20:08:01 I read that as it's only enabled if you play as a Conjurer 20:09:12 -!- Nstar has quit [Quit: Nstar] 20:09:53 How do you use it? Tab still rushes me up to them and begins melee 20:10:07 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:10:56 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:06 Somefellow: See the commit details; you have to enable it in your rc 20:11:24 Naruni made it, and he's often around; he or elliptic are the best people to ask 20:12:02 fr: meat mummies; http://news.sciencemag.org/archaeology/2013/11/how-feed-your-mummy 20:12:06 Should be a way to toggle it from within game 20:13:50 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:15:03 Somefellow: It's a very new feature still. As it matures, something like that may indeed happen. 20:15:06 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:14 Awesome 20:23:37 If there are two more things I'd ask for, would be auto butcher & auto throw 20:23:51 Instead of walking towards them when autofighting just pelt darts 20:23:58 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:25:08 auto butcher exists, I think 20:29:34 -!- Zifmia has quit [] 20:30:18 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:30:59 Somefellow: already there, just for some reason not enabled by default: set autofight_throw=true 20:31:05 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:32:11 it would be nice for it to not throw against ranged opponents: if range works in their favour, you want to hit them with your big axe rather than pelt them with darts 20:32:43 on the other hand, against melee opponents a turn spent walking towards them rather than throwing even small stuff is a turn wasted 20:33:44 especially if they're at distance 2: walking means you don't get a free throw _and_ suffer an unnecessary blow you wouldn't take otherwise 20:37:21 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:37:41 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:39:44 Is it considered desirable that okie gets mad if your summons die? 20:40:09 And if so, why don't we just make okie hate summons? 20:40:25 we already have Oka suppressing some kinds of summons 20:40:37 (blocks demonic guardian mutation, for example) 20:41:19 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:42:06 losing piety for some butterflies getting mushed is no fun 20:42:37 i think the oka behavior is generally fine, but i do think it's a bit silly that evokers are now included in his displeasure as a result 20:42:40 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:05 ackack: yep 20:43:07 doing this for butterflies you summoned knowingly is ok, those from read-iding a scroll of random uselessness seems wrong 20:43:49 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:44:04 kilobyte: is there a gameplay reason for the conduct, or is it just fluff? 20:44:27 "no allies" seems reasonable to me 20:44:27 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:35 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:45:13 also, elementals seem to be considered actual creatures rather than objects (unlike Tukima): probably because of all that "spirits" talk 20:45:30 If it's "no allies" as a trade off, we should make him get angry about summoning rather than dudes dying 20:45:41 which makes sense to me, as banning summons except for this, this and that would cheapen the conduct 20:46:08 how does oka feel about fire vortices 20:46:18 could work, yes 20:46:26 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:46:28 objects rather than creatures 20:47:11 -!- sd1989_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:47:15 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:35 -!- sd1989_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:52:36 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 20:53:45 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:54:56 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 20:59:25 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:06:21 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:06:35 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:07:07 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:07:42 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:26 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:15:50 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:19 -!- Zelda has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:20:58 -!- raskol_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:27:57 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:31:37 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34:18 -!- lazarenth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:36:16 nick sd1989 21:36:25 -!- sd1989_ is now known as sd1989 21:37:57 -!- TROGSTEIN has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:12 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42:53 -!- gregunderscorem has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:43:19 http://sprunge.us/AWGQ 21:45:03 am left writhing due to the continued hacks involving breaths 21:46:59 Grunt: did you allow it to swim? 21:47:36 It is sufficiently large that I think that is implicit. 21:47:39 Let me double-check. 21:49:21 as large as an elephant, thus can swim 21:49:28 (surely it should be size_giant) 21:49:39 -!- eb has quit [] 21:51:01 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 21:51:27 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:53:40 now all we need is fenrir the spirit wolf 21:54:05 <3 21:54:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:54:32 then lamia can finally go to hel 21:55:20 replace tartarus serpent with lamia?? 21:55:23 !arena antaeus v ymir 21:56:09 kilobyte: I was thinking, would Asterion (minotaur unique of makky I made a while back) be better if he just had a fixed demon band with e.g. a couple t-2 from the greater servant list? 21:56:20 Instead of the greater servant ability 21:56:28 He could keep greater destruct 21:56:28 possibly 21:56:42 Would get around the summoning cap issue 21:56:46 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:56:53 what issue? 21:56:59 can't you just use the cap? 21:57:11 There is no monster summons cap that I'm aware of 21:57:19 he can just keep spamming greater servant 21:58:02 (why not just leave greater servant as an emergency spell) 21:58:12 interesting idea 21:58:15 every single monster summoning spell has its own redundant and inconsistently buggy copy of a bunch code already, having one spell query the cap wouldn't be out of whack 21:59:09 Hrm, haven't looked into having a monster spell use the cap system 21:59:22 I suppose if it would work, that'd be ideal 21:59:31 so much monster summoning stuff is broken 21:59:39 like stairs following solely based on player casting or not 22:00:23 -!- tenofswords has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:51 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-939-gcd7827d: Simplify some Snake monster distributions. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd7827d3a543 22:02:51 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-940-gcb8aab0: Fix summoned_monster() not working for monster summons. 10(62 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb8aab065bff 22:03:04 actually, it needed an one-line fix 22:05:20 kilobyte: Ok, I'll try to make that work, thanks 22:05:26 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:18:35 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:19:36 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:50 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:30 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:38 |amethyst: what's with the British commit messages? ;) 22:23:54 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:24:03 bh: um, we're supposed to talk british here didn't you get the memo 22:24:12 SamB: Australian 22:24:14 I thought-- 22:24:15 Yes. 22:24:18 oh 22:24:22 sorry 22:24:43 !tell dpeg http://sprunge.us/AWGQ 22:24:43 Grunt: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 22:24:45 (before I forget) 22:24:46 they're kind of easy to confuse sometimes 22:25:29 Commonwealth-ese, Australian dialect 22:25:41 Grunt: did you see that I want to make okie hate summons? 22:26:35 -!- ackack has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:26:36 ok. who's idea was it to make a mummy trap vault? 22:27:58 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30:50 is it the ring of vitality vault 22:31:16 No, it's 22:31:20 !vault ragdoll_tomb_raider 22:31:21 Lines pasted to http://pastie.org/8491636 22:31:37 KITEM: $ = ring of regeneration unrand:ring_of_vitality / acquire any 22:31:58 ...oh, there's another ring of vitality vault which I assumed you meant <_< 22:32:06 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:32:30 It's quite brilliant as far as trap vaults go, although also really easy to circumvent 22:32:36 'very lovingly made 22:32:52 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:33:19 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:33:54 oh, it finally lost no_teleport_into 22:34:11 -!- lazarenth__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:34:45 that was infuriating: it was a natural thing to do when multiple priests approach you, then you lose the vault. You needed to be spoiled to know that. 22:35:55 it's a nice looking vault, but it's spoily to the max 22:36:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:36:26 will Fo get stuck if that vault is on last floor of depths? 22:36:39 fr: a gnome named spoily that can appear in some fashion to warn your about vaults 22:36:45 *warn you 22:37:00 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:37:03 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:03 gammafunk: my name isn't Spoily!!! 22:37:12 -!- ketsa_ is now known as ketsa 22:37:18 Grunt: A gnome named grunt would also be acceptable 22:37:36 " Can contain Khufu" 22:37:59 "I think there's loot in here!" …thanks spoily/grunt 22:41:09 i guess that absdepth check is pointless currently? 22:42:17 Yes, it is. 22:42:49 (also, Menkaure is probably considerably less threatening than a mummy priest) 22:45:23 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:47:05 will there be a gnashing of teeth if I drop it? 22:48:24 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-941-gcf7f6d0: Use Depths rather than D for Ziggurat zombies. 10(50 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf7f6d0d7097 22:50:44 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:50:51 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:51:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 22:52:01 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 22:53:29 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 23:00:09 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:55 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:02:09 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!] 23:02:58 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:03:42 !lg * killer=raiju 23:03:43 No games for * (killer=raiju). 23:14:19 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:15:09 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 23:15:17 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-942-gbd853f2: Scale Blink Allies Encircle's target count by HD. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd853f2b41c8 23:16:00 -!- wack has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:18:59 -!- myrmidette has quit [Client Quit] 23:19:28 -!- pwnmonke_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:21:49 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 23:25:51 -!- buppy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:35 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:58 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:33:08 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-942-gbd853f2 (34) 23:34:19 -!- lazarenth___ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:35:58 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:36:56 -!- Arkaniad_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:38:02 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:41:05 should pickup=multi be a default option ? I know even as a new player pickup seemed super annoying, and I was so happy when I found that in the options guide 23:41:42 which option is that? 23:41:44 g g? 23:42:10 rchandra: make a patch and I'll sneak it in? 23:42:32 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:45:48 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48:25 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48:51 -!- Evablue142 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:51:30 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:51:51 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53:42 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:56:07 -!- pelotron_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:58:13 03bh02 07* 0.14-a0-943-g859395c: Remove Tomb Raider Vault 10(65 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 111-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=859395c47d1c 23:59:29 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 23:59:41 -!- indspenceable has quit [Client Quit]