00:05:51 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-806-g7df33cc (34) 00:06:45 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-806-g7df33cc (34) 00:06:58 <|amethyst> simmarine: there you go 00:07:20 thanks |amethyst, ill give it a shot when im not busy atm 00:08:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:09:46 -!- duckroller is now known as drugrobin 00:10:04 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:10:11 -!- drugrobin is now known as duckroller 00:18:32 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-806-g7df33cc (34) 00:18:49 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:15 -!- dg__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:32 -!- iFurril has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:34:40 -!- duckroller has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:38:00 -!- shock_ has quit [Client Quit] 00:42:23 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:46:44 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-806-g7df33cc 00:48:46 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:50:03 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:38 -!- indspenceable has quit [Client Quit] 00:50:46 b - the amulet "Jutit" {Clar Str+2 Dex+3} 528 gold 00:51:07 f - the amulet of Makhleb's Benevolence {rCorr rPois rC+ MR++} 566 gold 00:51:23 k - the amulet "Piazid" {Ward Dex+2} 334 gold 00:51:29 oh ECHAN 00:53:24 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:30 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-807-gc4cf7a5: More waterport message improvements. 10(56 seconds ago, 1 file, 15+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4cf7a53d529 00:59:24 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 01:03:14 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:22 <|amethyst> !learn add it You disappears! 01:06:23 it[33/33]: You disappears! 01:15:23 Your feet thicken and deform. 01:15:23 Your hooves expand and flesh out into feet! 01:15:35 that sounds like my feet got bigger both times ... 01:19:43 infinite foot size exploit 01:20:38 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:20:59 -!- SupermanBananaX has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:22:06 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:24:39 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 01:26:05 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:24:37 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:06 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 07:33:49 -!- ais523_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:33:59 -!- ais523_ has quit [Changing host] 07:33:59 -!- ais523_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:33:59 -!- ais523_ has quit [Changing host] 07:33:59 -!- ais523_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:37:12 !tell MarvinPA someone reported finesse message spamming. I think this will fix: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2UFVH4SA 07:37:18 buppy: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 07:37:18 buppy: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 07:39:23 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:50:02 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:52:55 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:53:09 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: yes] 07:55:13 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:57:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:09:51 -!- dg__ has quit [] 08:12:50 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:22:01 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:24:21 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:27:56 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 08:33:28 Djinni you.hp_max > max_max_hp by MakMorn 08:34:07 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:42:03 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:42:07 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:23 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:59:21 -!- ais523_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:05:51 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:04 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:09:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:10:13 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 09:15:13 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:30 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:21:37 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:22:53 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:25:19 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:37:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:40:40 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:44:36 -!- duralumin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:44:46 -!- duralumin_ is now known as duralumin 09:44:52 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:47:41 -!- Voker57 has quit [] 09:55:31 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:37 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:01:19 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:03:46 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:44 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 10:21:00 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:21:01 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:21:39 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:47 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:23:17 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:24:07 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:33:33 what if there was a race that just let you ignore popcorn 10:34:51 like anything grey you can just walk through 10:35:00 or it just poofs away 10:36:44 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 10:37:30 -!- maha has quit [Client Quit] 10:38:21 Or a god ability that turn popcorn into sustenance 10:38:32 Oka should give you that 10:38:37 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:39:10 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:39:18 haha 10:39:19 since he won't give you piety for them 10:40:42 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 10:42:28 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:45:11 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:51:59 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:52:02 -!- ophanim has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:09 -!- ketsa has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:24 I'm in a star of david bailey, maybe religious signs should be avoided. 10:53:20 why 10:56:00 if crawl got ninja turtles and rockets i would play it exclusively to all other things 11:00:56 ketsa: I worship the sword god and I'm offended by long blades 11:01:20 can formicids wield a shield with a bow? 11:01:35 Wensley: yes, quite well. 11:01:41 (other races can too but it's bad) 11:02:02 can they dual-shield?? 11:02:16 (pipe dream) 11:02:45 that's not a star of david anyway 11:02:54 it's a hexagram 11:04:24 ugh, but they have -2 bows 11:04:27 terrible 11:04:32 thus dies the dream of the bowshield 11:07:00 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:07:43 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:09:22 gluttony god that lets you swallow popcorn by walking into it 11:10:22 just make it a yred power. consumptive field. absorb the lifeforce of popcorn such that it does not interrupt autoexplore 11:11:02 -!- Brokkr is now known as Guest26096 11:12:16 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:12:58 imagine that it's just a passive version of yred's aoe vd, and doesn't cost any piety and only works on annoyingly weak things 11:13:45 I forget, does yred give you an umbra? 11:14:07 -!- keszocze has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:14:13 Yred doesn't give you anything. 11:14:17 No. But his Profane Servitors do 11:14:17 only if he gifts profane servitors that do 11:14:28 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:14:31 Only buddies to steal your exp. 11:17:11 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-807-gc4cf7a5 (34) 11:17:42 !apt fo 11:17:43 Fo: Fighting: 0, Short: 1, Long: 0, Axes: 0, Maces: 0, Polearms: 0, Staves: 0, Slings: 1, Bows: -2, Xbows: 0, Throw: -2*, Armour: 2!, Dodge: -1, Stealth: 3, Shields: 0, UC: 0, Splcast: -1, Conj: -1, Hexes: 2, Charms: 0, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: -1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: -2, Earth: 2, Poison: 3!, Inv: 2, Evo: 2, Exp: 1!, HP: -2, MP: 0 11:17:52 Wensley: How about crossbow shield 11:18:01 If they really can use a bow and shield without penalty 11:18:13 kryft: maybe 11:18:19 Anyway -2 is a fine apt for something as overpowered as bows! 11:18:20 but there's no crossbow equivalent to krishna 11:18:52 I don't think bows are overpowered, though nor do I think they're underpowered 11:20:04 seen the latest version of Hellfire? 11:21:13 ??hellfire 11:21:13 hellfire[1/4]: 3x3 explosion used by certain high level demons and priests. Much like smiting, but does about thrice as much damage and destroys your scrolls. Not affected by rF or AC. 11:21:17 ??hellfire[2] 11:21:18 hellfire[2/4]: Comes in two flavors. Hellions, deep elf high priests, and draconian zealots use hellfire bursts, which can explode anywhere in LOS and do 3d15 damage. Deep elf sorcerers, brimstone fiends, draconian scorchers, [player] demonspawn and staff of Dispater use vanilla hellfire, which is 3d20 but requires a clear path. 11:21:22 ??hellfire[4] 11:21:22 hellfire[4/4]: Player (demonspawn) hellfire does up to 3d42 damage, depending on level, and costs 15% of your max health to use. Ignores rF and AC just like monster hellfire. Monsters with rHellfire are completely immune. 11:21:25 agh 11:21:37 how do you get the crossbow 11:21:40 lol 11:21:42 ??hellfire[3] 11:21:43 hellfire[3/4]: Also an unrandart +6,+6 crossbow {rF++, rC-, MR+} which shoots hellfire bolts (hellfire elemental damage and exploding); was +6,+9 and merely flaming in 0.13-. 11:21:46 haaha 11:21:48 figures 11:21:53 -!- alefury|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:16 that's pretty badass 11:22:17 could learn add hellfire_crossbow or crossbow_hellfire 11:22:26 hm, that does seem pretty neat 11:23:28 Bloax (L13 FoDK) ERROR in 'target.cc' at line 928: buggy no_landing_reason (D (Sprint)) 11:23:39 lol 11:24:16 -!- kelpie has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:24:21 wow those are like rockets!! 11:24:33 now we just need ninja turtles 11:24:41 * Wensley defenestrates debo 11:24:49 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:54 ow 11:25:10 you could have opened the window first 11:25:15 I think at some point we may have nad a ninja turtle vault 11:29:15 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:28 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:34:03 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:37:05 -!- maadneet has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:38:07 -!- eMagenta has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:39:21 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:41:13 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:45:59 -!- Psyknux has quit [Quit: My work is end \(^o^)/] 11:54:51 -!- Gmork has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:57:31 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 12:00:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:01:53 -!- Snufkin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:02:43 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:19 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:07:01 -!- dg__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:28 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:00 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:23 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:40:49 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:58 -!- SkaryMonk1 is now known as SkaryMonk 12:44:21 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:44:49 do you need a rune to get up from d15? 12:45:25 yes 12:45:52 haha 12:46:04 so antmans don't get a free pass 12:46:04 good 12:46:43 nor people who find a convenient shaft, nor people who take their lives into their hands with Lair:8 Hell portal 12:47:03 (although arguably if the survive the latter they should get a free pass because they're entirely ready to get a rune anyway...) 12:48:02 actually I'm not sure if entering the Vestibule from L:8 and immediately exiting dumps you back in Lair or in deep D... 12:48:03 people seem to be frequently misunderstanding how hell portals work 12:48:04 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:48:23 ??hell portals 12:48:24 I don't have a page labeled hell_portals in my learndb. 12:48:27 ??hell portal 12:48:27 I don't have a page labeled hell_portal in my learndb. 12:48:30 I don't have any plans to test it 12:50:05 because if I manage to survive hell lair ending I'm usually quite aware of the fleeting nature of my existence at that point :) 12:51:07 Formicids warpers start with a scroll of blinking by BlackSheep 12:51:46 when you leave the vestibule you end up back wherever you entered it from, also you don't need a rune to get up from d:15 because you can't get there without one anyway 12:51:55 (the shaft was removed) 12:52:30 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:52:52 hmm i thought there was a useless_item check on starting equipment 12:54:14 FWIW, blinking scroll is useful for troves and the free identification 12:55:08 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 12:58:19 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:40 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:39 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00:03 troves just shouldn't ask for useless stuff really 13:00:10 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:20 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:02:11 -!- maadneet has quit [Client Quit] 13:05:26 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:07:16 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:32 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:11 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:09:41 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:14:52 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:16:35 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:21:08 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:00 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:03 Random idea: derive panlord characteristics in Pan from the monster set of the level. 13:28:16 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:28:44 (This would be particularly good if we had a limited set of Pan levels and wanted individual levels to be more distinct...) 13:29:26 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:50 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:58 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:33:03 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:17 -!- ackack has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:33:41 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:38:31 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:39:05 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:51 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:42:00 -!- TROGSTEIN has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:51:06 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:57 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 13:57:26 -!- jcd is now known as jcd748 13:58:10 -!- jcd748 has quit [Client Quit] 13:58:15 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:58:28 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:00 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:47 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:03:44 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 14:05:26 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:27 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:07:32 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:47 -!- klang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:10:12 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:10:13 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:51 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 14:19:15 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:23:15 -!- eb has quit [] 14:24:10 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:25:18 -!- Lightli_ is now known as Lightli 14:25:27 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:59 is there any reason to allow characters to swing non weapons? I see players going for high scores swinging decks to regen HP since it has ~1.5 delay 14:27:03 <|amethyst> there's talk of removing turns altogether and basing high scores on aut 14:27:04 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:27:29 <|amethyst> which would solve most of those issues, but would of course need rescaling for inherently fast or slow characters 14:27:35 |amethyst, yeah I discussed that with elliptic a little bit 14:28:05 removing deck swinging might be a bandaid on a bigger issue with scoring but maybe it's an easy enough fix? 14:28:23 <|amethyst> then you'd just want to pick up a slow weapon and sling that 14:28:24 easy enough to at least temporarily remove some annoying, optimal techniques 14:28:28 yeah that's true 14:28:31 <|amethyst> though I guess scythes are heavier than decks 14:28:35 there's no way around that I guess 14:28:44 <|amethyst> s/sling/swing/ 14:28:58 <|amethyst> some folks call it a sling blade, I call it a kaiser blade 14:29:02 <|amethyst> mmm-hmm 14:29:16 dark maul swinging 14:29:33 that will most certainly be used 14:29:42 <|amethyst> Lightli: the new über zigsprint tactic 14:29:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:29:50 I have also seen chei walking in shalow water to heal 14:29:53 I already tried it 14:30:13 I swung, splattered an acid blob, and then died 14:30:13 * nonethousand peers at Bloax 14:30:16 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:31:17 wait, do you regenerate during paralysis or take turns? 14:31:23 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:31:32 paralysis wand secret tech? 14:31:37 Lightli, I believe paralysis turns count for scoring turns 14:31:38 for some reason 14:31:52 I thought of that and then someone told me it doesn't work 14:31:57 come on 14:32:00 (but it is a great secret tech) 14:32:15 <|amethyst> yes, paralysis means multiple iterations of the main loop 14:33:03 -!- cosh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:33:50 how's the dungeon split shaping up 14:33:50 what else is being discussed 14:34:03 what's being done to take advantage of save compat breaking 14:34:14 http://sprunge.us/eVST 14:34:21 ...this actually works not too badly. 14:34:48 (Possibilities: more spell upgrades?) 14:35:09 <|amethyst> if I can get some time to work on it (probably not for several days), maybe some struct padding 14:35:22 <|amethyst> err 14:35:26 <|amethyst> enum padding rather 14:36:06 <|amethyst> so we don't have to put new enumerators in entirely wrong locations for save-compat reasons 14:37:47 <|amethyst> really, though, if we break save compat once in 0.14-a, the marginal cost of breaking it a second time is much lower 14:38:19 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:39:33 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:42:39 * Grunt pads |amethyst. 14:43:17 |amethyst: what sorts of enums do you think need padding? 14:43:40 <|amethyst> Grunt: dungeon_feature_type 14:43:51 -!- jday_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:44:31 <|amethyst> Grunt: ability_type has padding but could use more (some of the sections are near collision) 14:44:37 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:21 <|amethyst> (ability_type only affects save compat because of =a 14:45:22 <|amethyst> ) 14:47:15 <|amethyst> Grunt: probably book_type 14:47:32 -!- Valarioth has quit [Client Quit] 14:51:19 -!- irctc768 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:52:25 <|amethyst> Grunt: really, anything that has MAX_* enumerators 14:54:26 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 14:54:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:55:01 -!- Abuh has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:57:43 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 15:01:19 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: ophanim] 15:01:22 ...ugh, book_type is a mess thanks to book-data.h (fixed order matching an enum)... 15:02:05 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:03:03 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:04:12 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:08 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:08 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:08 -!- Blazinghand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:37 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:14:19 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:15:31 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:16:01 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:17:46 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 15:18:48 hi folks 15:19:12 /nick folks 15:19:21 |amethyst: when elliptic was referring to changing the range for circleLOS to range^2+1 should it reflect like this: 15:19:22 if (dx^2 + dy^2 <= spells.range(you.spell_table()[AUTOMAGIC_SPELL_SLOT])^2+1) then 15:19:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:19:46 or should it be if (dx^2+1 + dy^2+1 <= spells.range(you.spell_table()[AUTOMAGIC_SPELL_SLOT])^2+1) then 15:20:25 <|amethyst> Naruni: the former 15:20:33 -!- NomadJim has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 15:20:34 ok thanks. 15:22:05 -!- syllogism has quit [] 15:22:43 Lair Vaults by KennySheep 15:23:45 -!- pelotr0n is now known as pelotron 15:24:21 03Grunt02 07[dungeon-split] * 0.14-a0-836-gb6e0cf4: Merge branch 'master' into dungeon-split 10(39 minutes ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6e0cf4ffa9d 15:24:21 03Grunt02 07[dungeon-split] * 0.14-a0-837-g300da2f: Remove some more TAG_MAJOR_VERSION == 34 checks. 10(37 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=300da2f59e09 15:24:21 03Grunt02 07[dungeon-split] * 0.14-a0-838-g68033aa: Pad some enums. 10(82 seconds ago, 5 files, 283+ 80-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=68033aa6efb8 15:26:35 |amethyst: i think this automagic patch it ready to be implemented, ive checked all the boxes everyone has asked me to, would you mind looking it over when you get a chance and adding any input? 15:27:09 s/it/is 15:28:23 <|amethyst> no time right now, but I'll get too it at some point if no one beats me to it 15:28:27 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:28:51 <|amethyst> !tell |amethyst review automagic patch at https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7488 15:28:53 |amethyst: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 15:29:16 !tell |amethyst Don't talk to yourself; it's a bad habit :) 15:29:17 Grunt: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 15:30:18 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:31:49 thanks 15:31:57 -!- ark__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:33:33 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:34 one way to leave yourself a reminder... 15:37:09 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:42:55 <|amethyst> Grunt: maybe some more space between divine abilities and zotdef abilities 15:42:56 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:42:58 <|amethyst> Grunt: for randgods 15:43:37 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:54 <|amethyst> Grunt: and MAX_* don't have to include the _UNUSED_ entries; it might make iteration easier if they didn't 15:54:16 -!- Whales has quit [Quit: homeward bound] 15:54:30 -!- Blazinghand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:27 -!- dg__ has quit [] 15:57:01 hmm 15:57:09 * Grunt eyes simmarine. 15:57:11 |amethyst: tried updating today. says Another game is already in progress using this save! 15:59:10 <|amethyst> hmmm 16:00:49 <|amethyst> hm, that was an old crawl version 16:01:09 <|amethyst> try it now 16:01:21 XL: 24 Next: 212% 16:01:24 good exp apt change 16:01:30 |amethyst: thanks! 16:01:41 You have reached level 25! 16:01:41 You have reached level 26! 16:01:42 <3 16:02:25 <|amethyst> oh, the crash dump got confused 16:02:37 !apt hp 16:02:38 HP: Tr: 3!, Og: 3!, DD: 2, Na: 2, Mi: 1, : 1, Gh: 1, HO: 1, Dg: 1, LO: 1, Ce: 1, Mu: 0, Ds: 0, Hu: 0, Vp: 0, Mf: 0, Gr: , Ha: -1, Op: -1, Dj: -1, HE: -1, Ko: -2, Gr: -2, Te: -2, DE: -2, Fo: -2, Sp: -3, Fe: -4* 16:02:54 <|amethyst> becuse env.level_vaults hadn't been initialized yet 16:03:19 <|amethyst> and the current gdb stuff seems to have problems with recursive crashes 16:03:33 <|amethyst> it was at 100% cpu 16:03:45 <|amethyst> well, 100% of one 16:04:44 <|amethyst> (it being crawl, not gdb) 16:04:48 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:04:48 -!- Blazinghand_ is now known as Blazinghand 16:07:49 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 16:13:51 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:20:31 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:56 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:24:38 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:25:04 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:31:31 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:32:00 03pubby02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-808-g8a23a7a: Allow _check_ability_possible to be truly quiet. 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 8+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a23a7a80152 16:32:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-809-g99a9498: Remove another instance of Leda's affecting action speed 10(75 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=99a94983c371 16:39:26 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:42:03 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332]] 16:42:53 -!- Guest26096 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:43:49 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:03 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 16:51:46 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:54:01 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:59 -!- Blazinghand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:34 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55:57 -!- Blazinghand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:54 -!- Blazinghand__ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:10 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:00:11 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:30 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:01:10 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:01:18 -!- Blazinghand__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:03:10 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:03:24 03Grunt02 07[dungeon-split] * 0.14-a0-839-g995d912: Some more enum tinkering (|amethyst). 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=995d912c8c0b 17:03:24 03Grunt02 07[dungeon-split] * 0.14-a0-840-g08dcf47: Don't generate Books of Bugginess. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=08dcf4756500 17:04:39 clearly books of bugginess should be an item that never generates but has debugging ray in it 17:05:16 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:07:18 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:07 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 17:11:15 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:21 ??book of bugginess 17:12:22 I don't have a page labeled book_of_bugginess in my learndb. 17:13:08 !send Blazinghand a BUGGY deck of cards 17:13:09 Sending a BUGGY deck of cards to Blazinghand. 17:13:24 !send Blazinghand a staff of bugginess 17:13:25 Sending a staff of bugginess to Blazinghand. 17:13:33 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:13:42 not staff of bugginess! don't worry I will repel it with my rod of the swarm 17:13:52 what is crawl written in 17:14:02 C++, mostly, with some Lua for vaults. 17:14:07 ...and scripts and such. 17:14:20 ah 17:14:23 cool times 17:14:27 it's written mostly in bugs, with some C++ mixed in 17:14:59 -!- hasufell has quit [Quit: gone] 17:15:12 1learn add dev 17:15:31 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:17:25 -!- hasufell has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:57 !send Blazinghand a buggily smoking rod. 17:17:57 Sending a buggily smoking rod. to Blazinghand. 17:18:01 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 17:20:25 uh oh 17:20:47 (These have all been actual items spotted in trunk, btw.) 17:23:24 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:23:47 with that #if TAG_MAJOR_VERSION clean-up squashed into a single commit, dungeon-split is next to impossible to review 17:24:03 I already found a bunch of bugs related to artefact handling, for example, though 17:24:38 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:26:23 BTW, you really want new git (in Debian's experimental) 17:26:41 even just shortening HEAD to @ is worth it 17:26:52 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:27:00 (if you type "git merge-base @ something" a lot of times) 17:30:22 kilobyte: are you going to try and split it? 17:30:49 yes, because there's around 5795764896738698 regressions hidden in merge commits 17:30:56 and this number is an underestimation 17:31:31 but looking at the actual code change, I fail to reason for the compat bump in the first place 17:31:41 s/reason/see the reason/ 17:34:13 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:34:15 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:38:18 Grunt: I may be confused by the massive squashed commit, but could you point me to why would a bump be wanted? 17:38:46 kilobyte: to avoid accumulating a large number of hacks relating to D being a lot shorter than it once was? 17:38:51 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:33 * kilobyte fails to spot a single such needed hack yet... there's some minor stuff to make deep D in transferred saves less boring, but is there anything else? 17:39:52 (I haven't read the whole squashed commit carefully enough, probably) 17:40:02 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40:14 kilobyte: the hacks were in the commit before that weren't they? 17:40:56 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:42:01 ok, found one: the guarantee for abyss/pan/hell entries 17:42:06 -!- Blazinghand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:52 it's four lines long, though... 17:44:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:46:05 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: ninja kapow - gn8 yall :)] 17:46:11 there's also a lot of puzzling stuff, like the new values for OOD caps for D/Depths 17:49:25 -!- jason57 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:50:54 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:52:39 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:23 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:58:45 if ((player_in_branch(BRANCH_MAIN_DUNGEON) 17:58:45 || player_in_branch(BRANCH_MAIN_DUNGEON)) 17:58:48 ook? 17:58:54 ... 17:59:09 (that got fixed a few commits later IIRC) 17:59:33 it looks like my shortening of branch enums was woefully ill-timed 18:01:59 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:03:45 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:04:29 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:05:24 -!- Abuh has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:12:59 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:13:15 !lg weisong fofi place=d:4 18:13:16 No games for weisong (fofi place=d:4). 18:13:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:33 !lg weisong fown place=d:4 -log 18:13:34 4. WeiSong, XL6 FoWn, T:3852: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/WeiSong/morgue-WeiSong-20131111-233537.txt 18:14:46 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 18:15:26 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 18:15:59 -!- Kenran has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:06 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:19:26 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 18:20:24 -!- m1nced has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:28:55 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 18:29:49 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:29:57 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:30:08 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:33 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:13 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:20 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:01 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:15 -!- Nakat0my has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:51:53 -!- dg__ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:52:17 -!- scummos_ is now known as scummos 18:53:12 -!- ws has quit [Quit: ws has no reason] 18:53:37 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:53:54 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:54:31 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 18:54:37 -!- sd1989 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:54:52 -!- sd1989_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:01 -!- sd1989_ is now known as sd1989 18:56:07 -!- jday_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:58:31 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:17 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 19:00:59 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:24 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:04:41 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 19:04:53 Grunt: Have you ever tried to clean up hall_of_Zot_5? 19:05:40 In what sense? 19:06:05 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:22 Why do we restrict the "Brand Foo" spells to working on unbranded weapons? 19:06:23 bh: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:06:25 !messages 19:06:26 !messages 19:06:27 (1/2) minqmay said (21h 26m 55s ago): should abyss be able to kill people on turn 0? !tv falaina grak 4 19:06:27 (1/1) minqmay said (40m 57s ago): !tv tvsian dsak 5 19:06:40 !tv tvsian dsak 5 19:06:40 5/7. tvsian, XL1 DsAK, T:0 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 19:06:55 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:07:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:18 !tell minqmay obviously it should. We wouldn't want people starscumming for an excellent starting vault, amirite? 19:07:19 bh: OK, I'll let minqmay know. 19:08:45 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:08:46 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:24 Grunt: I just see the following: SUBST: 8=8., 8=8., 5=5. 19:11:26 But really it's just the monster placement is a little opaque. Simplifying that is what I was thinking. But I'd leave that to the Vault Masters 19:12:05 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:13 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:20 Even I don't know how a lot of that code is supposed to function. 19:14:57 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 19:15:51 1 19:16:37 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:16:57 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:17:12 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-810-g34c0606: Tag FoVM monster with M_ACTUAL_SPELLS (Flex). 10(61 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=34c0606fae2a 19:17:22 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:38 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:18:53 (I could improve it but man that'd be no fun) 19:18:53 tenofswords: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:24:35 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:27:12 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:27:17 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 19:27:53 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:28:17 like, for starters, then people would realize that the vault actually places extra chances for traps on very specific stairs throughout certain chambers instead of using an NSUBST 19:28:27 s|stairs|tiles| 19:28:31 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:17 and that from the sectioning the vault is intended to have about 1.25x more monsters than it ever had 19:30:16 -!- ark__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:32:45 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:33:07 inquiry, should I bring back the chance for zot:5 to have ice/silver/orange crystal statues 19:34:49 That would be great, we'd just add 'Wand of Disintegration' to the ascension kit. 19:35:49 Grunt: this branding change does look unfun to implement 19:36:00 (disint really ought to just not check mr for those statues) 19:37:28 oh, whoops, I'd really only be bringing back two 1/400 chances when there's two current 1/8 chances 19:37:46 such sloppy base work 19:38:30 -!- Wolfram has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:39:20 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:40:31 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 19:40:48 !tv tvsian dsak 5i 19:40:48 No keyword '5i' 19:40:52 !tv tvsian dsak 5 19:40:52 5/7. tvsian, XL1 DsAK, T:0 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 19:41:10 Nice start 19:42:41 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all! :D] 19:45:29 Hey greensnark - fightclub seems to be crashing; do you have anyting to do with that? 19:45:45 *anything 19:47:10 Oh 19:47:11 Grunt: I can trivially make "Fire Brand" destroy a permabrand. That's good enough, right? :) 19:47:19 !fight rat v Xtahua 19:48:47 bh: give a brand the pink slip, eh? 19:49:19 bh: I thought the idea was to have it preserve the old brand afterwards? 19:49:34 * geekosaur suspects that's the hard part 19:49:36 Grunt: sure, but that bit will be harder ;) 19:51:28 No, the solution is to clearly combine them 19:51:38 Let us be Nessos for a change 19:51:40 (this is a joke) 19:53:37 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:54:50 -!- alefury|2 has quit [] 19:55:10 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:27 !fight rat v Xtahua t:99 delay:0 19:56:36 Grunt: Fixed, the daily build somehow managed to do a bad compile 19:58:04 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:58:51 -!- tenofswords has left ##crawl-dev 20:05:10 -!- NekoRex has quit [Quit: "All the vain and ignorant will look up and shout 'Save us!', and I'll look down and whisper... 'Nyo.'"] 20:08:28 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:10:11 greensnark: cheers! 20:12:59 Missing space after period in id'd Grand Grimoire spells by raskol 20:15:27 Grunt: would it make you sad if I added 'temp_special' to item_def? 20:16:06 alternatively, we could remove the brand spells 20:16:20 -!- Riddim has quit [Quit: Goodbye, World] 20:16:25 bh: you could use a you.attr or something instead??? 20:16:53 ah. represent it on the player instead 20:16:54 bh: But the brand spells make up a massive chunk of charms 20:16:55 that sounds simpler 20:17:05 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:17:56 Lightli: when I say "Let's remove foo", I generally don't mean "right now" 20:22:36 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:27:45 -!- dg__ has quit [] 20:28:45 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:34:36 |amethyst: http://sprunge.us/aWFD - a patch for monster 20:35:02 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:35:40 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36:40 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:43 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:38:27 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:39:14 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:20 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:12 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:12 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 20:43:12 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:20 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:43:29 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 20:46:04 !seen evilmike 20:46:05 I last saw evilmike at Mon Nov 4 00:00:43 2013 UTC (1w 1d 2h 45m 21s ago) quitting without a message. 20:47:18 -!- Abuh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:56:26 -!- dg__ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:05:08 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:06:13 evilmike has disappeared once again 21:06:16 I blame runelock 21:07:21 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 21:07:42 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:05 I just had a good idea for a vault 21:09:24 A few trees scattered about near a very very good item 21:09:34 But if you take the item, the trees turn into treants 21:10:26 * kilobyte still ponders sneaking in Rich Burlew's "charred horrors". 21:10:38 we have a lot of trap vaults already 21:10:43 ie, burned-out undead treants 21:11:22 wheals: This would be more flavorful than most of them I guess 21:11:33 but whatever, back to brainstorming 21:11:55 how the same thing, except there's a unique octopode named admiral ackbar there 21:12:00 to warn the player 21:12:49 hahahaha 21:14:41 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:30 * Grunt ambushes mumra. 21:19:01 random question 21:19:12 how large is a crawl floor 21:19:17 80x70 21:19:22 k 21:20:51 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 21:21:54 o hai mumra! 21:24:33 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder.] 21:27:02 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 21:27:28 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:30:08 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-811-g76cd1e1: Unbreak formicid aptitudes for versions > 34. 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=76cd1e1177ea 21:30:08 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-812-g33952b5: Fix a number of inconsistencies in wizmode artefact handling. 10(5 hours ago, 2 files, 22+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=33952b5ebde5 21:30:08 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-813-gd70054a: Make it easier to test compat bumps automatically. 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d70054aebf66 21:30:08 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-814-g1bc1760: A bunch of Lair vaults (KennySheep) 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 122+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bc176067ecd 21:30:08 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-815-g6777cb6: Increase the max size of CrawlVector/CrawlHashTable to 65535 (SamB). 10(4 hours ago, 3 files, 33+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6777cb6869cf 21:30:08 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-816-ge4a7683: Ask for never squashing TAG_MAJOR_VERSION clean-up with intentional changes. 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4a7683b2fc6 21:32:26 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:22 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:36:12 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:39:55 -!- Flex has quit [] 21:44:23 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:45:56 ??ancient champion 21:45:57 ancient champion[1/1]: A very dangerous spellcasting skeleton, found in the crypt. Spell sets: iron shot, haste, pain OR bolt of draining, haste, throw frost OR venom bolt, haste, haunt OR IMB, slow, haste. 21:55:39 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:56:45 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:59:55 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:39 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:04:08 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:05:20 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:00 -!- Somefellow has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07:35 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:08:33 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:12 hello? 22:10:20 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332]] 22:10:25 yes? 22:11:21 oh 22:11:29 Made a vault, want feedback because it might be a bit too hard 22:11:32 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PmsC7vZh 22:12:13 'ehh... 22:12:19 No one is going to go near that with the curse skulls 22:13:16 what should I replace them with then 22:14:03 With some tuning you could probably turn that into an in-level Crypt ending. 22:14:23 The problem is I am not a tuner 22:14:33 it also doesn't work 22:15:02 let me guess, I mispelt profane servitor or something 22:15:18 (this is why I always ask for input) 22:15:20 trailing semi on the monster list seems dubious? 22:16:18 ? 22:16:38 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 22:16:39 vault syntax errors are shown correctly now even, i'm pretty sure 22:16:47 really? 22:17:03 let me fix this myself, brb 22:18:18 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:07 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:20:22 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:20 nope 22:22:28 they still haven't fixed that damn bug 22:22:41 let me try tiles? 22:22:51 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:23:46 works for me, maybe it's a debug mode thing 22:24:01 either way i imagine it would help to try and load the vault even if you don't get a full error message 22:24:17 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:25:12 I don't get any error messages 22:25:22 It's just a blank screen until i press a key and then it quits 22:25:32 MarvinPA: Are there gameplay reasons for fire brand not working on perma branded weapons? 22:25:47 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:38 well the commas in TAGS: and the semicolons in MONS: are what makes it not load, anyway 22:27:02 http://sprunge.us/gDjc 22:27:15 I don't think I'm done tinkering with this - it still seems kind of sparse. 22:27:30 bh: no idea, i don't see that it would be particularly problematic 22:27:50 so remove the commas and replace the semicolons with commas? 22:27:57 wait no 22:28:00 It lets you rebrand you +9 beatstick {killingdudes}, but so what 22:28:26 MarvinPA, it's seemed to me to be a technical thing with the way the unbranding works. 22:28:32 I suspect it's partially the issue you've already noticed: how to remember the old brand and restore it. But there's also the question of using it to try to escape disto unwield effects 22:28:48 that seems to be the main limitation, yeah 22:28:49 solution: make it so it doesn't work on disto 22:29:05 You could have a distortion unbrand effect trigger if you brand a disto weapon. 22:29:06 well i assume the temp brand would evaporate when you unwield as currently so you'd still get distortion effect 22:29:29 uh oh, people might use it to kill blink frogs ;) 22:30:04 in the status quo brand spells are not very used that i've seen 22:30:26 solution: remove brand spells 22:30:33 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:30:45 how about a {good_chaos} temp brand that tends to randomly select something the dude your hitting doesn't resist? 22:30:49 Or add one for speed that can't be affixed and is very high level 22:31:06 Lightli: you mean Finesse? 22:31:07 Lightly: as I understand it, just space for separator in the tags, and commas separating the monsters (; delimits gear). which also means that trailing semi just goes away completely 22:31:16 *Lightli 22:31:22 fixed that there 22:31:55 So should I try and make this a normal vault or just go for a crypt ending at this point 22:33:00 and if the latter, what should I change in order to make it suitable for such? 22:33:27 -!- ketsa_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:33:57 * Lightli is resisting the urge to make the fight against 2 servitors 22:34:10 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:34:21 -!- ketsa_ is now known as ketsa 22:34:50 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 22:35:12 -!- tksquared has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35:28 ? 22:38:02 -!- Hal9k has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:38:59 -!- Hal9k has quit [Changing host] 22:40:56 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:42:39 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 22:44:57 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:44:58 so what should I do 22:45:07 -!- buppy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:24 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-817-g3f7b0b1: Changelog through 0.14-a0-816-ge4a7683. 10(40 seconds ago, 1 file, 22+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f7b0b16b583 22:49:00 !rng regular_vault CRYPT_ENDING go_to_sleep 22:49:01 The RNG chooses: go_to_sleep. 22:50:07 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:52:38 !tell ontoclasm Idea: give the minor panlord tiles some colour so that they can be recoloured like some of the wall tiles are (then obviously have them take on their console colour). 22:52:39 Grunt: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 22:57:08 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 22:58:23 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 22:58:31 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:03:09 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:05:49 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:06:56 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 25-51 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(28) | XP: 205 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 23:06:56 <|amethyst> %??yak 23:07:00 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 25-51 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 12 | Res: 06magic(28) | XP: 205 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 23:07:00 <|amethyst> %??yak perm_ench:weak 23:07:02 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 25-51 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 20 | Res: 06magic(28) | XP: 205 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 23:07:02 <|amethyst> %??yak perm_ench:roused 23:07:03 -!- Snufkin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:07:04 <|amethyst> Grunt: thanks! 23:07:05 |amethyst: :) 23:07:17 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 15 | HD: 22 | HP: 1050 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 11212(cold:22-65), 4512(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, see invisible, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 10elec++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: berserker rage; b.cold (3d32), b.lightning (3d25) | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 23:07:17 %??antaeus perm_ench:berserk 23:07:47 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 700 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 7512(cold:22-65), 3012(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, see invisible, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 10elec++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: b.cold (3d32), b.lightning (3d25) | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 23:07:47 %??antaeus 23:07:55 ...where did the spell in the spell set come from :b 23:09:33 <|amethyst> if (monster->has_ench(ENCH_BERSERK)) 23:09:33 <|amethyst> beam.name = "berserker rage"; 23:10:04 <|amethyst> since for some monsters it's a special ability rather than a spell 23:10:05 (idea: an "endurance" enchantment that increases a monster's maxhp by 50%) 23:10:25 perm_ench:might perm_ench:haste perm_ench:endurance col:red 23:10:26 <_< >_> 23:11:15 unknown ench: "endurance" 23:11:15 %??antaeus perm_ench:might perm_ench:haste perm_ench:endurance col:red 23:11:22 Antaeus (05C) | Spd: 15 | HD: 22 | HP: 700 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 11212(cold:22-65), 4512(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, see invisible, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 10elec++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: b.cold (3d32), b.lightning (3d25) | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 23:11:22 %??antaeus perm_ench:might perm_ench:haste col:red 23:11:36 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:44 unknown monster: "master blaster" 23:12:44 %??master blaster perm_ench:berserk 23:12:51 ... 23:13:32 unknown monster: "lernean hydra" 23:13:32 %??lernean hydra perm_ench:berserk 23:13:38 <|amethyst> lernaean 23:13:39 the Lernaean hydra (08D) | Spd: 15 (swim: 60%) | HD: 30 | HP: 225 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 27 per head | amphibious, cold-blooded, regen, !sil | Res: 06magic(120), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 5233 | Sp: berserker rage | Sz: Giant | Int: reptile. 23:13:39 %??the lernaean hydra perm_ench:berserk 23:13:44 27! 23:13:51 27 heads dealing 27 damage 23:13:52 <3 23:14:10 <|amethyst> can't use vault-defined monsters in monspecs 23:14:15 <|amethyst> since they're already monspecs 23:14:44 butterfly (08b) | Spd: 37-38 | HD: 1 | HP: 15000 | AC/EV: 0/25 | fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(4) | Vul: 09poison | XP: 0 | Sp: berserker rage | Sz: tiny | Int: insect. 23:14:44 %??butterfly hp:10000 perm_ench:berserk 23:14:51 Limit broken! 23:15:00 test spawner (16X) | Spd: 21 (swim: 60%; 07stationary) | HD: 1000 | HP: 15000 | AC/EV: 127/127 | 11non-living, amphibious, regen, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 07acid, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm++ | XP: 1 | Sp: berserker rage; shadow creatures | Sz: Large | Int: plant. 23:15:00 %??test spawner perm_ench:berserk 23:15:10 (swim: 60%) 23:15:11 ... 23:15:47 test spawner (16X) | Spd: 14 (swim: 60%; 07stationary) | HD: 1000 | HP: 10000 | AC/EV: 127/127 | 11non-living, amphibious, regen, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 07acid, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 08holy, 13torm, 04napalm++ | XP: 1 | Sp: shadow creatures | Sz: Large | Int: plant. 23:15:47 %??test_spawner perm_ench:paralysis 23:16:45 -!- drugrobin has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:17:13 makhleb (05&) | Spd: 15 | HD: 100 | HP: 5000 | AC/EV: 30/8 | Dam: 60 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(800), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: fire storm (8d75), iron shot (3d141), haste, greater demon / fire storm (8d76), iron shot (3d141), haste, greater demon | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 23:17:13 %??cerebov name:makhleb perm_ench:haste hd:100 hp:5000 23:17:28 No no no. 23:17:31 Cerebov was Okawaru. 23:17:34 hahahahaha 23:17:36 Get it right. 23:17:41 fine 23:18:10 Okawaru (05&) | Spd: 15 | HD: 100 | HP: 5000 | AC/EV: 30/8 | Dam: 90 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(800), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: fire storm (8d75), iron shot (3d141), haste, greater demon / fire storm (8d76), iron shot (3d141), haste, greater demon | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 23:18:10 %??cerebov name:Okawaru perm_ench:haste perm_ench:might hd:100 hp:5000 23:18:22 * Grunt goes to look up Okawaru's spell set. 23:18:30 ...wait, I can't actually do that. 23:18:44 might and haste since that was what he gifted in the old days 23:19:00 Grunt: the "ancient" repository on gitorious 23:19:00 Grunt: because you don't know what commit to look at? 23:19:02 also he has to be wearing an animal skin because that's all he gifts 23:19:03 Oh wait, I can actually do that. 23:19:09 SamB: this predates DCSS :) 23:19:10 expect numeric enums, though 23:19:32 kilobyte: I thought the code I had didn't go back far enough to show the name change, but it does. 23:19:35 Grunt: yes but *I* knew that there was a repository which had some commits that represented various old versions 23:19:54 oh 23:20:08 so you remembered too, but thought it wasn't old *enough* 23:20:12 SamB: Yes. 23:20:20 gotcha 23:20:36 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:20:42 anyways, since I can't sleep, how should I convert my vault into a crypt ending 23:21:07 Okawaru (05&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 21 | HP: 650 | AC/EV: 30/8 | Dam: 60 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(168), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: b.fire (3d30), iron shot (3d36), fireball (3d32), minor demon | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 23:21:07 %??cerebov name:Okawaru n_rpl spells:bolt_of_fire;iron_shot;.;fireball;summon_minor_demon;. 23:21:13 ...that's not a very threatening spell set. 23:21:20 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:22:03 hey, it's Oka 23:22:30 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:45 * Grunt enjoys Mnoleg, as Nemelex Xobeh, having a "summon anything" spell which apparently has no direct equivalent in modern crawl 23:23:19 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:23:35 Unknown spell name: 'summon lesser demon' in 'lightning_bolt;bolt_of_cold;summon_lesser_demon;blink;teleport_self;major_healing' 23:23:35 %??Lom Lobon name:Sif_Muna n_rpl spells:lightning_bolt;bolt_of_cold;summon_lesser_demon;blink;teleport_self;major_healing 23:23:44 Sif Muna (12&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 19 | HP: 360 | AC/EV: 10/20 | Dam: 4012(antimagic) | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 7124 | Sp: b.lightning (3d23), b.cold (3d28), minor demon, blink, teleport self, 04esc:major healing | Sz: Large | Int: high. 23:23:44 %??Lom Lobon name:Sif_Muna n_rpl spells:lightning_bolt;bolt_of_cold;summon_minor_demon;blink;teleport_self;major_healing 23:23:57 I'm assuming these spells were a lot more threatening back then :) 23:23:59 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 23:24:45 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 23:24:53 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:25:01 Kikubaaqudgha (15&) | Spd: 20 | HD: 16 | HP: 350 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 45 | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 10697 | Sp: poisonous cloud (3d10), slow, b.draining (3d23), demon | Sz: Large | Int: high. 23:25:01 %??gloorx vloq name:Kikubaaqudgha n_rpl spells:poisonous_cloud;slow;.;bolt_of_draining;summon_demon;summon_demon 23:25:55 God, the gods were wimps 23:26:03 Also Kiku only should have 250 HP 23:26:16 (Ereshkigal didn't get 350 HP until relatively recently) 23:26:34 I'm not checking the other stats at the moment - just the spell sets <_< 23:27:41 why isn't FoBe greyed ... 23:28:18 Because trog's hand is still good 23:28:26 Oh, these are actually post-rename - it's just that most of the code still refers to them by their original names. 23:28:39 Also, their HP sucked back then <_< 23:28:43 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:28:52 <|amethyst> It should be; it's restricted for Mu, Gh, Vp too 23:28:56 Cerebov (05&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 21 | HP: 136 | AC/EV: 30/8 | Dam: 60 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(168), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 5032 | Sp: b.fire (3d30), iron shot (3d36), fireball (3d32), minor demon | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 23:28:56 %??cerebov hd:21 hp:136 spells:bolt_of_fire;iron_shot;.;fireball;summon_minor_demon;. 23:29:06 wait what in the 23:30:19 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:30:37 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-818-g0b088e9: Don't recommend FoBe (SamB) 10(88 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b088e9c8c8b 23:30:51 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:52 hey I didn't say to do that 23:30:54 ok, looks like after chopping dungeon-split up (most unrelated commits already pushed) it's surprisingly small 23:31:07 -!- kait_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:31:09 -!- gammafunk has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:31:18 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:36 code changes inside merge commits are a terrible thing :( 23:31:45 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:32:13 would anyone want to review my version, or do we just check it in trunk? 23:32:29 it's simple enough for that, though 23:32:35 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:33:12 ("my" as in "some chopping, rebasing and squashing amends", authorship is of course Grunt's...) 23:33:52 * Grunt feels terrible for making a mess of things :( 23:33:56 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:34:03 --test and --mapstat seem to be stop reporting errors now 23:34:20 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 23:34:28 Grunt: it's not your fault, it's merge commits being a BAD THING 23:34:31 kilobyte: is that good or bad? 23:34:50 git makes them hard to review 23:34:50 so you guys are about to push dungeon split? Or am I seeing things that aren't there again 23:35:04 kilobyte: yeah, git isn't too good at merges :-( 23:35:15 I mean review-wise 23:35:30 ok, mapstat has a lot of gripe about Vaults level, but this is unrelated 23:36:07 SamB: a non-empty merge commit is supposed to be an exception, though 23:36:29 yeah 23:36:44 I guess ... 23:37:01 -!- slifty has quit [Client Quit] 23:37:03 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:37:10 I skipped the commit that gave Depths its separate population of water monsters, it looks wrong to me: why would everything else get the population of D? 23:38:07 kilobyte, the logic there is kind of hard to follow, but only two (three afterwards) branches actually use the relevant logic. 23:38:30 -!- myrmidette has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:38:45 kilobyte: in current trunk, see dungeon.cc:3786 or so 23:39:06 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:35 Grunt: WTF... 23:40:09 !seen mumra 23:40:09 I last saw mumra at Tue Nov 12 05:39:06 2013 UTC (1m 3s ago) joining the channel. 23:40:17 I meant before that, idiot 23:40:42 well, *probably* long time no see, anyway ;-) 23:40:53 %git 56da53a44 23:40:53 07DracoOmega02 * 0.13-a0-1857-g56da53a: Preliminary revisions to water monster placement (to D and Forest for now) 10(5 months ago, 2 files, 76+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=56da53a445ce 23:40:55 kilobyte: ^ 23:42:00 Grunt: big thanks for moving Hell to the unused H, even if it breaks my muscle memory 23:42:19 that's as anti-mnemonic as one could design 23:42:37 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:08 <|amethyst> UESTIBULE OF HELL 23:44:27 rip U 23:44:31 It's always been my instinct to try to use H for Hell, though I wasn't really around for Hive days... 23:44:40 simmarine: it's stolen for Dupth 23:44:47 rip Hive 23:44:56 (whatever happened to the idea of a Hive portal vault) 23:45:11 Lightli: well, such a vault does not need a letter in any case 23:45:17 wizmode 23:45:32 03Grunt02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-819-gc7c129d: Re-letter the Vestible to 'H' (was: 'U'). 10(9 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7c129ded1e3 23:45:32 03Grunt02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-820-g1b62a5d: Transform the lower half of D into a new branch: the Depths. 10(9 days ago, 81 files, 1272+ 1186-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b62a5d5613b 23:45:32 03Grunt02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-821-g88e7b8a: First pass at a Depths monster set. 10(9 days ago, 1 file, 62+ 102-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=88e7b8acfe77 23:45:32 03Grunt02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-822-g7c01be7: Adjust primary vault dummy chances to account for Depths. 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c01be7f4fe5 23:45:32 03Grunt02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-823-g1fe76e4: Save compat for pre-dungeon-split. 10(5 days ago, 3 files, 9+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1fe76e40747c 23:45:32 03Grunt02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-824-gcab0894: Don't place encompass vaults on Depths:1. 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 11+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cab08949ff14 23:45:32 03Grunt02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-825-gb254b3d: ontoclasm's tiles for Depths entry/exit. 10(4 days ago, 5 files, 10+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b254b3d78821 23:45:32 03Grunt02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-826-g24f19a4: Theatrics when entering the Depths for the first time. 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 11+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=24f19a42bb16 23:45:32 03Grunt02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-827-gb43d3dd: Split D tile themes between D and Depths. 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 22+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b43d3ddbe08e 23:45:32 03Grunt02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-828-g00f784b: Split some layouts between D and Depths. 10(4 days ago, 6 files, 15+ 15-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=00f784b62b91 23:45:32 ... and 3 more commits 23:45:39 I thought you just place a portal using wizmode? 23:45:50 did you guys just push it? 23:46:00 Underground? Underdark (D&Dism but fitting)? 23:46:18 kilobyte: he was thinking Underworld 23:46:37 Underdungeon? :p 23:46:47 I was thinking "Underworld" when I first assigned it that letter. 23:46:58 Grunt: I just told him that ;-P 23:47:42 So did you guys just push dungeon split to trunk? 23:48:09 <|amethyst> yes, that's what those commits were 23:48:39 eta to complaints: 3, 2, 1 23:48:40 Lightli: yeah, I've did some serious review and jokingly little testing 23:48:41 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:48:56 so, can we use it to axe the lock? :p 23:49:10 fyi, there's a nice typo in the trunk change log on line 4. "a rune is enter to enter D:15." 23:49:13 (the difficulty jump is quite large) 23:49:16 CKyle: :( 23:49:38 kilobyte: had you pushed my change to the max size to those store things *before* the save compat bump? 23:49:51 and that line is invalid now, thanks to Grunt 23:49:58 kilobyte: I'll fix it... 23:50:14 SamB: yes, as there's no compat bump 23:50:29 kilobyte: how did you do it without a bump? 23:50:43 oh, I guess it's not that hard 23:50:56 minor version 23:51:04 -!- Roarke_ is now known as Roarke 23:51:51 I ponder using {un,}marshall{S,Uns}igned everywhere, this can be done with a minor tag too 23:52:25 * kilobyte expects a reduction of save files by like a factor of two pre-compression 23:53:18 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-832-g11d3004: Nudge changelog again. 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=11d3004b74a6 23:53:19 and since zlib sucks with two-byte and so representations of what proper entropy coding would deal with... 23:54:50 has cszo been rebuilt yet? 23:55:00 It'll autorebuild in a few minutes. 23:55:36 k 23:58:04 so are we going to rename the Depths to something starting with a U or what 23:58:33 we could have a contest to come up with the best excuse for the U 23:58:59 We have plenty of branches that don't have letter codes corresponding with their first letter, but I'm also not particularly attached to the Depths name. 23:59:13 (dpeg did want something starting with a D though!) 23:59:15 Deeps