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Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 07:41:31 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:52:30 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:57:50 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:02:25 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:07:16 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 08:10:25 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 08:10:51 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-367-gaa88e20: Don't penalize Spellcasting for Jiyva weighting. 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa88e2029d88 08:10:51 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-368-g0929d45: Don't let Jiyva permanently drain stats if one reaches 72. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0929d457a0a3 08:19:32 -!- FearTheChris has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:19:40 -!- Silurio has quit [Client Quit] 08:19:53 -!- Silurio1 is now known as Silurio 08:32:39 -!- jetnerd has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:33:12 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:35:36 -!- ketsa has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 08:37:52 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:38:19 does anyone see any merit in the dk_crumbling vaults? they seem to use a bunch of lua to do nothing other than create a lot of message spam 08:38:52 (and to make players look up the spoilers for the vault to figure out what on earth all the message spam means, only to discover that it doesn't mean anything) 08:39:22 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:30 yes, I do see some merit: a decor statue alley vault 08:40:39 that's 100% of merit there is 08:41:33 a lot of stuff that seems pretty neat in vaults often ends up lost in actual games 08:41:58 mostly because it relies on the player paying attention to the level, where in real games the player mashes 'o' 08:43:06 -!- marxistplot has quit [Client Quit] 08:44:13 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 08:56:02 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 24.0/20130918041159]] 08:58:40 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 09:02:59 ah, wtf, as always 09:03:08 unseen horror in d7? bläh 09:03:21 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:03:29 gone on vacations without internet 09:03:31 ciao o/ 09:03:55 bie! 09:09:50 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:11:40 Zaba: I remember seeing this vault several times, and I haven't noticed the crumbling even once :/ 09:13:43 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:14:42 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-369-g7bd5468: Simplify; support Unicode. 10(39 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bd54681919a 09:14:42 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-370-gd6a04bc: Fix the statues in four dk's vaults. They tended to crumble! 10(6 minutes ago, 3 files, 82+ 193-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6a04bcbdd3e 09:16:03 oh good, you beat me to it but you also fixed the weird asymmetry in _2 that was annoying me :P 09:16:34 oh, sorry for wasted time if you were doing that 09:16:48 I waited for a bit, but it looks like I should have asked 09:16:49 no problem, i'd only just started 09:19:04 Hi everyone! I've switched workplaces, now less time for ##crawl-dev :( Anyway, someone uploaded a patch for the religion screens (allow ^^ instead of ^!). Could one of you push it? Many thanks! 09:19:43 dpeg: might be better to eliminate multi-screen descriptions and instead make them scrollable 09:20:26 there is one god screen with an actual functionality though, for Nemelex 09:20:36 yes 09:20:52 until they're scrollable, can we take the patch? pretty please :) 09:20:53 but the sac selection is such a spoilerfest that I think it should somehow go away 09:21:14 sac selection is the worst 09:21:28 Eronarn: worse than Obama? 09:21:50 +1 for making nemelex gifts not depend on what type of thing you sacrifice 09:21:51 i like the idea from a while ago of just removing weighting by item type outright, yeah (and just having some fixed weighting) 09:22:15 dpeg: definitely 09:22:21 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:26:33 dpeg: US politics can be summed as "there are villages in Texas and Kenya lacking their idiots" 09:26:50 (or that's the impression one gets from the Intertubes) 09:26:51 kilobyte: I agree. 09:27:35 if there is actual objection to ^^ (I think it'd improve play a little for now), please tell me, so that I can tell BlackSheep in turn. 09:28:59 that patch would be irrelevant if we get to making desc scrollable, but there won't be a single line more to delete 09:30:38 I think there is still something to be said about ^^ because that gets you to the second page quicker. 09:31:26 -!- orVar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:32:48 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:49 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:21 kilobyte: to be fair, the general public is pretty awful too 09:35:48 Eronarn: I'd call the media circus the worst part 09:37:29 Eronarn: you have two parties picking some irrelevant issues like gay marriage or war on drugs then feigning an all-out war about it, all while taking massive bribes^Wcampaign donations with both parties taking from the same donors 09:38:03 I can't think of any legitimate situation in which a single donor would sponsor both parties 09:38:59 american companies are very generous and nice :) 09:40:40 I got a suggestion that would give them a massive profit: if company A would donate to party X, and company B to party Y, they can match the funds and pocket them instead. If the parties are truly opposed, that would have the same result, right? 09:42:14 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 09:42:55 just raised by Zermako on ##crawl: trolls of chei get no noticeable benefit from chei's slow digestion. Perhaps it should work proportionally? 09:43:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-371-gfff5158: Remove the blowgun of the Assassin 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fff51581865b 09:43:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-372-g8131501: Always use untransformed body weight to determine carrying capacity 10(67 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8131501abe1d 09:43:00 03BlackSheep02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-373-g80452e7: Make ^ toggle god screen 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=80452e764882 09:43:29 MarvinPA: thank you! 09:43:31 kilobyte: probably it should be multiplicative like sustenance, yes 09:43:43 kilobyte: sounds reasonable, yes 09:44:59 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:47:28 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 09:50:57 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:09 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-374-ge9336d9: Greatly reduce hunger of trolls of Chei. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9336d973904 09:57:09 pigah the Insei (L5 OpMo) (D:4) 09:57:21 UncleUncle the Insei (L7 DsMo) (Ossuary) 10:01:02 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:01:30 -!- Danei has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:03:54 -!- Elibenium has quit [Client Quit] 10:11:00 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:12:44 -!- frobop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:13:04 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:21:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:23:09 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:24:41 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:09 kilobyte: hmm, another possibility: libbacktrace from GCC's tree 10:31:34 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 10:37:35 -!- C7ty has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:38:51 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:40:59 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-375-ge732ba0: Tag the noncrumbling statue vaults as extra. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e732ba084a1d 10:40:59 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-376-gd247091: Properly handle ranged unrands affecting their ammo. 10(13 hours ago, 3 files, 58+ 53-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d24709164a15 10:40:59 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-377-gfd018d8: Don't freeze fsim on spurious ranged combat prompts. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd018d8dadb4 10:41:24 (there, now I can push newhellfire whenever <_<) 10:42:30 Huzzah! 10:43:05 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:20 SamB: sounds interesting 10:44:39 SamB: it doesn't seem to be packaged in Debian though, so it'd need to be a contrib 10:45:05 kilobyte: yeah, I did notice that 10:45:10 * Grunt shoots a hellfire bolt. The hellfire bolt misses dpeg. 10:45:37 ... oops wait, libgcc-4.8-dev has it 10:45:50 ... and tromey said it usually isn't in #elfutils when I mentioned not having heard of it before ... 10:52:37 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:53:46 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 10:53:46 -!- CKyle_ is now known as CKyle 10:55:59 -!- ckyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:30 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 11:02:16 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:01 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:27 -!- uglyjohn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:07:23 kilobyte: hmm, some sample code: http://people.redhat.com/jkratoch/backtracei.c 11:07:36 (that's for the elfutils libraries) 11:11:53 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:13:39 -!- chlorine has quit [Ping timeout: 259 seconds] 11:14:18 -!- xnavy has quit [Killed (leguin.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 11:14:18 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 11:15:52 -!- Guest37993 has quit [Client Quit] 11:17:29 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:23:04 -!- hhkb has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:42 -!- nonethousand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:26:41 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:28:27 -!- b4rr31_r0l1 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:33:10 -!- ROarke is now known as Roarke 11:34:43 -!- ystael_ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:45:17 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Client Quit] 11:45:21 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:49:30 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:50:06 -!- RZX has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 11:55:18 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:43 -!- ckyle_ has quit [Quit: ckyle_] 12:08:13 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:08:29 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:41 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-377-gfd018d8 (34) 12:10:11 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:24 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:11:01 Question: Has anybody successfully compiled and ran crawl in OS X 10.9 (Mavericks)? Running "make APPLE_GCC=y CC=clang CXX=clang++ NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y" gives me compilation erros. Running "make APPLE_GCC=y NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y" compiles fine, but "./crawl" gives a Segmentation fault 11 as soon as you try to run it. 12:12:13 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:14:12 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:21 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 12:18:13 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:19 -!- nonethousand_ is now known as nonehthousand 12:18:27 -!- nonehthousand is now known as nonethousand 12:19:45 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:21 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:23:52 CKyle, I believe it's known that crawl doesn't yet work with clang. as of xcode 5, there is no apple gcc any more 12:25:26 geekosaur, thanks. Maybe I'll poke around at it if I have free time, but I assume someone else will probably get to it faster. 12:26:33 people here have poked at clang support, although I haven't seen much recently. (I suspect this kind of thing is where they stalled out. I don't think I know enough c++ to debug it either) 12:26:47 (also there's a general lack of OS X experience around here) 12:34:19 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:37 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:09 -!- myrmidette1 has quit [Client Quit] 12:35:17 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:35 -!- MDvedh has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:36:55 i do most of my development on osx nowadays 12:37:01 but i don't know C++ much at all :( 12:47:43 -!- uglyjohn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:49:50 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:50:48 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:54:23 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:07 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:54 -!- beef42_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:03:10 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 13:03:10 -!- gammafunk_ is now known as gammafunk 13:03:18 Mavericks are a kind of ROBOT, aren't they? Not cat? 13:05:12 Maverick is a good word. 13:05:55 It can be anything from an unbranded calf to an air-to-ground tactical missile. 13:06:06 CKyle: I think most OS X port work goes towards i386+ppc universal builds, using Apple's ancient GCC so far 13:06:14 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:22 CKyle: we don't really get much out of 64-bit 13:09:09 SamB: Yeah, I saw the conversation on the potion of experience issue. Unfortunately, I've made it so I can't compile my own copies of trunk anymore. :p 13:10:17 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 13:11:20 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:28 -!- gammafunk has quit [Client Quit] 13:17:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:22:30 I can't imagine it being too hard to get it working on CLANG though, considering we got it working on MSVC. 13:23:59 probably not 13:27:04 Yeah, I just noticed that issue only occurs with Tiles, so it's probably not too hard to track it down. 13:27:36 Are the Perl scripts being ran for generating the tiles and stuff/ 13:27:49 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Client Quit] 13:28:41 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:40 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:29:57 If I run "make NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y" then it GENs 8 png files before clang starts on the c++. 13:31:08 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:32:00 yes, you probably don't want to pretend clang is apple-gcc-4.2 13:38:07 IIRC clang works well enough with Crawl (at least on Linux) these days; the problem is more of a backwards compatibility one. 13:39:09 (... it looks like I introduced some clang warnings with a recent commit :( ) 13:39:47 %git HEAD^ 13:39:47 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-376-gd247091: Properly handle ranged unrands affecting their ammo. 10(16 hours ago, 3 files, 58+ 53-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d24709164a15 13:39:55 ...that one. 13:41:46 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:44:28 have to play with that then 13:45:16 -!- xnavy is now known as Guest60917 13:45:16 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 13:47:28 -!- aves has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:48:39 Won't "hunger = hunger * 3 / 4;" be interpreted as "hunger = hunger * (3 / 4);" and therefor "hunger = 0;"? 13:48:45 -!- Guest60917 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:49:05 I think you've given all classes 1 hunger. :P 13:49:32 -!- gnsh has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:50:17 %git e9336d9 13:50:17 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-374-ge9336d9: Greatly reduce hunger of trolls of Chei. 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9336d973904 13:51:20 kilobyte: Don't you need parenthesis around "hunger*3"? 13:51:21 * and / are associated left to right. It should be the same as (hunger * 3) / 4. 13:51:25 its evaluated left to right 13:51:34 J/c is there an avenue to submit pull requests in this git setup? 13:51:56 oh :| 13:52:09 -!- gnsh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:15 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:52:31 xFleury: no, 13:52:47 xFleury: * and / have equal precedence 13:54:11 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 13:54:11 Senjai: yeah, i don't know where it is in the gitorious interface though (maybe somewhere on the cloned repo page if you have one) 13:55:30 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:52 MarvinPA: Ah, is that the master branch? I thought it was hosted athttp://s-z.org/neil/git/crawl.git 13:56:09 no, that's a mirror 13:56:12 the main repo is https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/ 13:56:14 MarvinPA: Should I clone from the gitorius branch instead? Sorry, it's been so so long since I've used anything other than github 13:56:29 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:56:43 I also find it interesting a lot of people use gitorious for games. e.g. crawl and tome, why not github? 13:57:20 I asked that a bit ago, and the answer I got was that "at the time" when Crawl moved from SVN to GIT, Gitorious was the better choice than Github. 13:57:39 github had some limitations on project size when we were deciding what to switch to, possibly some other issues too, i forget 13:58:02 Ahh, must have been a while back :P 13:58:15 i dont think github even existed when the switch happened 13:58:26 a few years ago, yeah 13:58:28 it did 13:58:30 eith: if it aint broke dont fix it i suppose :P 13:58:31 In 2009..? 13:59:03 i thought it switched in 2008, but whatever 13:59:20 I've never even had to use SVN, thankfully. 13:59:39 Back then I was too stupid to use a VCS, and by the time I had to for work git was around 14:00:11 now I'm addicted :( http://github.com/Senjai 14:00:16 svn is fine for personal stuff 14:00:23 dscm the Digger (L1 OpEE) (D:1) 14:00:23 ^ 14:00:46 I use SVN for all my own projects. It's alot easier to learn and use than GIT, especially on Windows. 14:00:55 !lm * crash -log 14:00:56 5545. dscm, XL1 OpEE, T:81 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/dscm/crash-dscm-20131025-190022.txt 14:01:36 xFleury: Err.. I guess :P I couldn't imagine developing on windows anymore after switching to linux about 3 years ago. I'd settle for mac though. Same shit shiny surface :P 14:01:55 MaseCarrigan the Magician (L3 HuWz) (D:2) 14:02:04 xFleury: http://git-scm.com/book is a free online book on git. Once you get used to it you'll never go back :P 14:02:26 Except, I am use to it. And I still go back to SVN, lol. 14:02:32 xFleury: Also, I use the git bash for my terminal when I do have to use windows. I prefer it over the cmd and it provides an unix like command structure 14:03:17 I guess that the most important thing is that you are using a vcs :P 14:03:34 neops the Ruinous (L6 GrWz) (D:3) 14:05:04 MorganLeah the Swashbuckler (L22 KoTm) (Zot:5) 14:05:08 EriktheRed the Frost Mage (L11 MfIE) (Lair:1) 14:05:28 TIL: I've been needlessly using parenthesis in my code for over a decade. 14:05:41 :D 14:05:47 -!- hhkb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:48 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:05:55 Mathematically, (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2*6%2F3) division is suppose to take precedence. 14:06:04 But in code, it's left-to-right.. o.O 14:06:22 since when, multiplcation and division have the same precedence in everything ive ever seen 14:06:48 it just depends on how you evaluate, not all languages do the left to right thing 14:07:39 That's true, I could probably find a language that does it differently. 14:07:49 But it looks like C,C++,C# do it the same. 14:07:59 I'd assume Obj-C too. 14:09:21 -!- DaneiTHREE has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:10:50 most languages implement normal math precedence 14:11:14 except the ones which don't use infix operations: lisp/scheme, forth, postscript, etc. 14:12:43 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:01 anyway, in standard math * and / are same precedence and higher precedence than + and - 14:14:13 and most infix languages do this as well 14:16:15 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:19:19 -!- Riockmert has quit [Client Quit] 14:19:40 -!- Samskii has quit [Client Quit] 14:21:39 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24:20 -!- Comradin has quit [Quit: reboot] 14:24:48 -!- hhkb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:29 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:28 -!- gammafunk has quit [Client Quit] 14:28:05 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:30:24 whales2 the Ruinous (L3 DECj) (D:1) 14:35:36 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:37:36 -!- guppyfry has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:38:40 -!- hhkb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41:20 -!- hhkb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:29 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:45:35 -!- rocnal has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:45:49 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:47:39 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦] 14:50:08 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:53:51 -!- hhkb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:53 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:09 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:28 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:02:13 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:30 |amethyst: cao tiles is stuck apparently 15:02:32 -!- valtern has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:05:06 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 15:09:09 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:10:17 -!- marxistplot has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:12:56 Mechanical the Axe Maniac (L26 HOBe) (Abyss:5) 15:13:04 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:13:06 <|amethyst> unstuck 15:13:21 * Grunt sticks cao like a pig!!! 15:13:37 listen: cao has come unstuck in tiles. 15:14:25 neops the Poker (L1 GrGl) (D:1) 15:15:29 Asti the Cudgeler (L7 GrMo) (D:5) 15:16:51 -!- creep has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:17:01 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 15:18:00 qtip the Sneak (L7 DDAs) (Ossuary) 15:18:08 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:43 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:23:24 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:25:41 <|amethyst> wheals: so it goes 15:37:26 -!- yokelz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:44:12 -!- bisonbisonbison has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:49 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:49:11 -!- chlorine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:52:08 -!- y2s82 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 15:52:09 -!- bisonbisonbison has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:54:13 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:58:51 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:59:24 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: ophanim] 16:03:50 -!- Whales has quit [Quit: homeward bound] 16:04:15 -!- xFleury_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:05:36 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:05:40 -!- xFleury_ is now known as xFleury 16:05:52 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:06:13 Inescapable Volcano entrance vault by Whales 16:06:53 -!- xnavy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:10:59 -!- C7ty has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:11:49 <|amethyst> I don't think that's a bug 16:12:21 -!- b4rr31_r0l1 has quit [Client Quit] 16:13:01 <|amethyst> the part behind the lava is no_rtele_into 16:14:08 yeah, IMO that vault should be changed anyway to make it not require flight/digging to enter though 16:14:13 what's the point of it? 16:14:30 making players occasionally unable to enter a portal vault isn't interesting or fun 16:14:50 <|amethyst> elliptic: there's a bailey that's even worse 16:14:51 -!- nonethousand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15:02 <|amethyst> elliptic: you don't discover that you're blocked until after entering the portal 16:15:15 yeah, and it doesn't place any potions of flight or such 16:16:45 <|amethyst> I got that volcano recently, and spent a whole wand of random effects trying to get in (and failing, because I didn't look at the vault definition to find an optimal spot to dig) 16:16:54 <|amethyst> s/volcano/volcano entrance/ 16:18:23 -!- Pisano has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:18:45 <|amethyst> But I think "trapping the player" isn't the problem 16:18:49 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:18:50 -!- kekekela has quit [Client Quit] 16:19:43 -!- valtern has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:24 |amethyst: I got that one while playing on the jump_attack branch, and used jump + sputterflies to get in since I had no other source of flight 16:24:48 -!- marxistplot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:25:16 Actually I might have been summon mammal, but either way it "worked" 16:25:29 s/I might/it might/ 16:26:47 <|amethyst> #5150 is the bug about the bailey 16:28:58 I didn't realize that the source of flight inside the deep water river bailey wasn't guaranteed 16:32:01 -!- Zen_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:35:11 <|amethyst> Re: #7660, does it make sense for spectral things to remember their exact monster type? 16:35:54 -!- scwizard has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:36:11 -!- spaff is now known as GreatSpiff 16:36:25 <|amethyst> Since they retain at least some "class" abilities from their previous lives 16:36:49 <|amethyst> (also, should they really be "mindless" if they can cast spells?) 16:37:23 oklob sapling wizard (11P) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 4 | HP: 15 | AC/EV: 10/0 | 03plant, 07vault | Res: 06magic(16), 03poison, 08acid+++, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 49 | Sp: acid splash (3d7+7d5); magic dart (3d4), cantrip | Sz: small | Int: plant. 16:37:23 %??oklob sapling wizard 16:37:34 they're mindless with spells 16:38:02 <|amethyst> If I were making that a real creature rather than a vault redefinition, I wouldn't make it mindless 16:38:02 -!- GreatSpiff has quit [Client Quit] 16:41:40 -!- ZebTM_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:42:00 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 16:42:51 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:43:01 <|amethyst> that said, there are mechanical implications to having a mind, so flavour isn't the only factor 16:46:33 Death channel spectres don't get the original monster spells iirc, but yred soul enslaves and lost soul spectres do 16:46:48 Maybe a new undead type for the latter two? 16:46:53 <|amethyst> hm, perhaps 16:47:14 <|amethyst> this is my problem with latish-game content 16:47:21 <|amethyst> I rarely see it :) 16:47:40 !send |amethyst amulet of life-saving 16:47:40 Sending amulet of life-saving to |amethyst. 16:48:12 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Quitting] 16:49:31 Speaking of life-saving. 16:49:56 What are the objections to giving transmuters 1 less dodging and spellcasting for 2 more fighting? 16:50:03 Besides hilarious PMs. 16:52:03 Their D:1 splat rate is rather colossal, and my best guess (and general experience of) is that their abysmal melee accuracy causes that. 16:52:05 I feel they start with such little MP as-is, and using STS + beastly append is pretty key to keeping one alive for the first 3-5 dungeon levels 16:52:52 <|amethyst> Bloax: then why give more fighting instead of, say, more dex? 16:53:13 -!- giantbat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:40 |amethyst: Because I didn't know dex affected accuracy, actually. 16:53:50 ...hmm, I think the chance_ tag prefix isn't working properly. 16:54:01 And if it isn't, it means that portal vaults are placing a lot less often than they should. 16:54:16 Grunt: Is that why wizlabs are so rare? 16:54:23 That's a distinct possibility. 16:56:27 -!- uglyjohn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:59:53 |amethyst: It looks like the nameservers for s-z.org (ns1 and ns2.wwbtc.com) are not resolving, while dobrazupa.org is fine 17:00:06 So how does "Tm 2,5,5" -> "Tm 2,4,6" / -1 Dodging +1 Fighting sound? 17:01:14 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:22 (Well we could say 1,4,7 or 2,3,7 but I'm a bit uneasy on that.) 17:01:25 Bloax: Have you done some test trasnmuter runs on d:1-3 using those in wizmode? Might be a good idea 17:01:55 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hrm 17:02:02 gammafunk: how do i even function 17:02:19 Bloax: even function? 17:02:59 (On it now.) 17:08:41 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:52 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:10:37 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:10:44 <|amethyst> you even function by turning f(x) into g(x) = f(x) + f(-x) 17:13:26 :p 17:13:30 -!- CampinSam has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:15:28 -!- ApsychicRat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:18:56 <|amethyst> okay, I think I fixed the ns problem, but the TTL is four hours so... 17:19:39 -!- Quashie has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:19:43 -!- Quashie_ is now known as Quashie 17:19:46 <|amethyst> the entries for ns1 and ns2 got moved from one zone file to another, but the serial numbers weren't updated 17:20:26 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 17:26:17 Are you the defending or the attacking side in &f? 17:26:27 proabably the attacking ehehh 17:29:30 the proposed Tm change sounds like an early-game nerf to me 17:29:52 if anything is wrong with Tm, it's the fact that their book has a summoning spell in it 17:32:47 fr: Snake Hands 17:32:55 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:58 ...hmm, s/Hands/Hair/ <_< 17:35:08 Two levels of fighting and a point of dex do about jack to the accuracy, that's for sure. 17:36:53 I'd rather have dodging than fighting earlygame on most chars 17:37:13 Ptach to display notification about presence of Ziggurate on current level by Sandman25 17:38:13 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 17:39:02 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:39:15 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 17:43:05 hrm 17:43:07 ??grunt 17:43:08 grunt[1/7]: I'm really looking forward to the point in 0.12 where someone first comes across a tornado ghost. 17:43:11 yet 17:43:13 ??grunt[7] 17:43:14 I don't have a page labeled grunt[7] in my learndb. 17:43:21 o_O? 17:43:25 ??grunt[-8] 17:43:26 grunt[0/7]: Why not? 17:43:30 ... 17:43:31 haha 17:43:40 ??grunt[$ 17:43:41 I don't have a page labeled grunt[-1] in my learndb. 17:43:45 ??grunt[-2 17:43:45 grunt[6/7]: The pun machine 17:43:53 ??xFleury[-2 17:43:54 I don't have a page labeled xfleury[-2] in my learndb. 17:44:27 hooray for hand-rolled code 17:44:59 BlastHardcheese: Is that artisanal code? 17:45:10 antisanal maybe 17:46:13 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:46:27 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 18.0.2/20130201065344]] 17:47:16 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:49:02 -!- Soadreqm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:49:38 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:49:55 -!- gammafunk_ has quit [Client Quit] 17:50:11 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:59:03 -!- taraiph has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:00:11 So chance_ tags aren't broken; the portal vault code is. 18:00:14 Fortunately it's easy to fix. 18:02:29 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-378-g8d2b60c: Fix portal vault chance tagging. 10(13 minutes ago, 7 files, 8+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d2b60c04934 18:02:29 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-379-g16e8c2b: Allow vaults to have "nolayout_" tags. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=16e8c2b310d3 18:02:29 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-380-gc5deab5: Consider encompass vaults to have a "layout_type_encompass". 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5deab54c819 18:02:29 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-381-gf07e438: Spruce up Hell and Pan entries. 10(6 minutes ago, 4 files, 142+ 134-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f07e438b2eae 18:03:37 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-382-g9abd889: Make some portal vaults easier to enter 10(50 seconds ago, 2 files, 15+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9abd8898d0f7 18:04:09 I should fix hellmouth_1 if we're doing that... 18:06:05 ...actually, all of these are pretty inaccessible <_< 18:06:16 (though I'd hope players going to Hell can already traverse lava) 18:07:32 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-383-g3207b83: Remove now-unnecessary no_rtele_into from a vault 10(16 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3207b833c2ef 18:07:54 magic handbaskets? 18:08:12 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:08:32 Grunt: hell isn't a portal vault 18:08:41 That's also true. 18:08:45 and there is another entrance later 18:08:45 so I think it is fine 18:09:10 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:09:49 (todo: Abyss entries) 18:15:44 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:24:22 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:25:00 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:29:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:34:27 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 18:45:13 -!- araganzar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:48:53 -!- jornathan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:49:01 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:57 -!- Cronoth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:50:05 -!- y2s82 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:52:06 -!- Gotham has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:52:38 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-384-g9d11bed: Spruce up abyss entries (incl. #6921). 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 50+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d11bedcde61 18:54:19 -!- dead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:54:22 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:54:45 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:58:19 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:58:22 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:01:43 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:03:00 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:25 -!- ark_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:09:55 -!- jetnerd has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:13:00 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: CKyle_] 19:16:19 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:09 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:23:13 -!- chinaman has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:23:35 I think I mentioned the other day the idea I've had for a while for an "insulation" cloak ego (i.e. rElec). 19:23:40 ...Thoughts? 19:24:48 that feels like a pretty good slot for it 19:26:02 <|amethyst> The Cage of Fair-a-Day 19:26:17 |amethyst, sounds like an unrand :) 19:26:20 rElec+++ 19:27:03 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:27:13 an aluminum jacket 19:27:37 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: CKyle_] 19:27:43 (plus pants and shoes, of course) 19:28:16 there should be a silence unrand (not just -cast) 19:28:45 <|amethyst> Eronarn: there was a tavern thread suggesting a cursed silence unrand 19:29:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:13 -!- djanatyn has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:30:27 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:31:07 |amethyst: i think something swappable (but slower) would be more interesting 19:32:45 -!- GreatSpiff has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:33:19 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-385-gada9c99: Hellfire-the-unrand gains a "hellfire brand". 10(22 hours ago, 3 files, 34+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ada9c99c8223 19:33:20 ...I guess it's close enough to the end of the tournament for me to not feel bad about pushing this, particularly since there aren't any hard-to-reverse changes: 19:34:01 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:38:40 Messaging regading invis spawns in the abyss. by dck 19:38:43 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:37 <|amethyst> Grunt: you saw that mantis? 19:42:54 fr: It bursts from nowhere! 19:42:57 -!- jiero has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130911164256]] 19:43:01 <|amethyst> Grunt: looks like if if (is_visible) 19:43:01 <|amethyst> msg = mon->name(DESC_A); 19:43:01 <|amethyst> else if (shoved) 19:43:01 <|amethyst> msg = "Something"; 19:43:05 <|amethyst> err 19:44:02 -!- punpun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:46:07 <|amethyst> Grunt: oh, sorry, I was misremembering 19:46:23 <|amethyst> Grunt: I thought you had written that code, but it was bh 19:46:39 I'm not the resident eldritch abomination. :b 19:46:44 1learn add bh Resident eldritch abomination. 19:47:30 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-386-g917dc0c: Changelog through 0.14-a0-385-gada9c99. 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 28+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=917dc0c447b1 19:48:39 <|amethyst> Grunt: it was mostly the death cob puns that made me think it was you :) 19:49:22 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: Good night and good luck to you all!] 19:49:41 <|amethyst> !tell bh congrats, your death cob puns are so good^Wbad that I misremembered them as having come from Grunt instead 19:49:42 |amethyst: OK, I'll let bh know. 19:53:21 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 19:54:44 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦] 19:55:05 -!- Froggeryz has quit [] 19:55:41 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-387-gdf6160b: Don't give malformed messages for invis abyss spawns (#7664) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=df6160b6ef9a 19:56:16 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 19:57:02 -!- CampinSam has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 19:57:56 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:58:19 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: CKyle_] 19:58:55 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 19:59:36 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:05:47 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:14 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:59 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 20:10:34 Grunt: do the unrand launch functions work for monsters too? i remember some bits of throw.cc being player-only but not which bits they are 20:11:59 MarvinPA: yes! 20:12:08 aha, nice 20:12:45 Saint Roka shoots a hellfire bolt. The hellfire bolt hits Mennas. The hellfire explodes! 20:14:43 hmm for some reason i get the "You hear a strangely unpleasant explosion!" message when shift-firing from hellfire 20:14:51 but not otherwise, it seems 20:15:02 I think shift-firing causes it to end up in the wall? 20:15:11 I've seen this happen with things that aren't Hellfire. 20:15:33 hm, the explosion isn't centred on the wall but maybe it's still something like that 20:15:35 ...and I can't remember what those are right now, of course >_> 20:15:56 oh it happens when just shift-firing to floor at the edge of los too though 20:16:16 (but not when f or . targeting that same spot) 20:16:27 Oh right, other exploding projectiles do this too. 20:17:04 ah yeah so they do 20:17:27 Ice Storm does it too! 20:17:35 heh 20:18:20 This looks like a logic error in beam.cc. 20:18:45 I'll have it fixed in a moment, I think... 20:18:50 <|amethyst> the centre of the explosion is in LOS, right? 20:18:55 Yes. 20:19:15 <|amethyst> ah, but target isn't what it should be using 20:19:23 It is; 20:19:35 it just isn't setting target properly before refine_for_explosion() gets called. 20:19:38 <|amethyst> ah 20:19:42 <|amethyst> one other problem 20:19:52 ? 20:20:15 <|amethyst> if you can see just one square of the explosion but not the centre, that probably should be a third message 20:21:00 <|amethyst> (in some cases the same as seeMsg, but not necessarily so) 20:21:03 I'll worry about that at some other point :b 20:21:07 doesn't shift-fire just shoot in a straight line till it hits something or runs out of range? 20:21:34 nevermind 20:21:43 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:21:50 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-388-g4756083: Handle messages for exploding projectiles at walls / edge of LOS properly. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4756083227e6 20:24:32 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:44 -!- tarantoga has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 20:29:53 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:20 <|amethyst> Grunt: any reason not to cherry-pick that to 0.13? 20:30:45 I can't think of any. 20:31:02 ... latest thing: http://sprunge.us/HZcb 20:31:05 <|amethyst> looks safe, since refine_for_explosion can't change pos() 20:32:35 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 20:33:21 ??spen 20:33:21 hyperbolic[1/3]: My 0.12 SpEn guide: SKILLS: Approximate goals are as follows: 1) 8 Stabbing. 2) Invisibility at 6% fail and 10 Dodging/Stealth. 3) 12 Stabbing, 15 Dodging/Stealth, 6 Fighting, and enough Short Blades for min delay. 4) 27 Stealth, 10 Fighting, and whatever spell skills you want. 20:34:49 -!- wya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:36:29 <|amethyst> !learn add spen O whar will I get guid stabber, To stab these Orcish Mines? 20:36:29 spen[2/2]: O whar will I get guid stabber, To stab these Orcish Mines? 20:36:53 o_O 20:37:10 <|amethyst> I can't help but think of that poem whenever someone says "spen" 20:37:56 <|amethyst> http://www.wwnorton.com/college/english/nap/sir_patrick_spens.htm 20:38:22 Up and spak an abyssal knicht... 20:38:23 <_< 20:38:35 s/an // 20:40:02 great, now I have to use hyperbolic[] to look up the rest of the guide 20:40:32 <|amethyst> I could move it to spen[0] and see what happens :) 20:40:44 ... right ... 20:41:05 !learn move spen[1] spen[2] 20:41:05 spen[1] -> spen[2/2]: see {hyperbolic[1]} 20:41:08 !learn del spen[0] 20:41:09 Deleted 20:41:11 ??spen 20:41:12 hyperbolic[1/3]: My 0.12 SpEn guide: SKILLS: Approximate goals are as follows: 1) 8 Stabbing. 2) Invisibility at 6% fail and 10 Dodging/Stealth. 3) 12 Stabbing, 15 Dodging/Stealth, 6 Fighting, and enough Short Blades for min delay. 4) 27 Stealth, 10 Fighting, and whatever spell skills you want. 20:41:13 ??spen[-2 20:41:14 hyperbolic[1/3]: My 0.12 SpEn guide: SKILLS: Approximate goals are as follows: 1) 8 Stabbing. 2) Invisibility at 6% fail and 10 Dodging/Stealth. 3) 12 Stabbing, 15 Dodging/Stealth, 6 Fighting, and enough Short Blades for min delay. 4) 27 Stealth, 10 Fighting, and whatever spell skills you want. 20:41:19 ??spen[-3 20:41:20 spen[0/2]: O whar will I get guid stabber, To stab these Orcish Mines? 20:41:25 ??spen[2 20:41:25 hyperbolic[2/3]: STATS: Raise Str to 8, then raise Int. SPELLS: From the starting book: EH, Confuse, Invisibility. When you find them: other generally good spells like Haste, Repel Missiles, Regeneration, Dispel Undead, Apportation, Blink, Control Teleport, Phase Shift, Controlled Blink, etc. 20:41:25 ??spen[3 20:41:26 hyperbolic[3/3]: GODS: Ash, Jiyva, Kiku, Lugonu, Makhleb, and Nemelex are all great choices. WEAPONS: Any short blade will work for stabbing, but switch to a dagger when possible. For regular melee, early on look for elec and venom weapons. Later look for a quick blade and/or pain brand a weapon with Kiku. Distortion is nice also. Oh, and get a buckler. 20:41:27 <3 20:41:34 <|amethyst> oh, wow, it actually does work 20:41:35 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:41:37 <|amethyst> ??spel[$] 20:41:38 I don't have a page labeled spel[-1] in my learndb. 20:41:39 <|amethyst> ??spen[$] 20:41:40 hyperbolic[3/3]: GODS: Ash, Jiyva, Kiku, Lugonu, Makhleb, and Nemelex are all great choices. WEAPONS: Any short blade will work for stabbing, but switch to a dagger when possible. For regular melee, early on look for elec and venom weapons. Later look for a quick blade and/or pain brand a weapon with Kiku. Distortion is nice also. Oh, and get a buckler. 20:41:52 1learn add spel lrn 2 spel! 20:43:34 |amethyst: nobody will ever know to look at ??spen[0] 20:44:04 I want to know how we can fix zero entries <_< 20:44:22 ?? ? ? 20:44:23 [1/5996]: 20:44:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:44:37 ??spen[0] 20:44:38 hyperbolic[1/3]: My 0.12 SpEn guide: SKILLS: Approximate goals are as follows: 1) 8 Stabbing. 2) Invisibility at 6% fail and 10 Dodging/Stealth. 3) 12 Stabbing, 15 Dodging/Stealth, 6 Fighting, and enough Short Blades for min delay. 4) 27 Stealth, 10 Fighting, and whatever spell skills you want. 20:44:50 ??spen[-2] 20:44:51 hyperbolic[1/3]: My 0.12 SpEn guide: SKILLS: Approximate goals are as follows: 1) 8 Stabbing. 2) Invisibility at 6% fail and 10 Dodging/Stealth. 3) 12 Stabbing, 15 Dodging/Stealth, 6 Fighting, and enough Short Blades for min delay. 4) 27 Stealth, 10 Fighting, and whatever spell skills you want. 20:44:53 ??spen[-3] 20:44:54 spen[0/2]: O whar will I get guid stabber, To stab these Orcish Mines? 20:44:59 crazy 20:45:08 ??spen[-4] 20:45:09 I don't have a page labeled spen[-4] in my learndb. 20:45:32 that's pretty well spen-t 20:45:56 ??spen[-2147483647 20:45:56 I don't have a page labeled spen[-2147483647] in my learndb. 20:46:08 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:48:01 e - a +0 pearl dragon hide 20:48:01 E - a +1 robe of fire resistance 20:48:01 F - the +1 robe "Luilase" {Dex+4} 20:48:45 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:51:13 ??spen[3] 20:51:13 hyperbolic[3/3]: GODS: Ash, Jiyva, Kiku, Lugonu, Makhleb, and Nemelex are all great choices. WEAPONS: Any short blade will work for stabbing, but switch to a dagger when possible. For regular melee, early on look for elec and venom weapons. Later look for a quick blade and/or pain brand a weapon with Kiku. Distortion is nice also. Oh, and get a buckler. 20:51:55 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:54:04 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:29 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:54:34 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 20:56:47 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 20:57:38 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 21:02:27 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:55 ??spell power 21:03:56 spell power[1/5]: (Spellcasting/2 + 2*avg school skill) * INT/10 * (1.5 ^ enhancer count). Now halve the part over 50, halve the part over 100, halve the part over 150, and plain cap at 200. Negative enhancers use 0.5, not 0.66. 21:05:51 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:09:56 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:12 <|amethyst> SamB: which isn't 100% accurate now that it uses smooth stepdown 21:10:44 |amethyst: yeah, I was mostly looking for the scaling factors for the different skills though 21:18:41 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:37 |amethyst: You should feel free to pull destruction branch 21:19:37 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:19:50 !messages 21:19:51 (1/1) |amethyst said (1h 30m 9s ago): congrats, your death cob puns are so good^Wbad that I misremembered them as having come from Grunt instead 21:20:29 * Grunt shoots a hellfire bolt. The hellfire bolt misses bh. 21:21:16 which commit? 21:23:09 bh, some of your old Abyss code. 21:23:37 ugh. delete it all 21:23:47 It's all a bunch of crashes :) 21:24:09 The Abyss is devoured by a tear in reality. 21:25:24 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:27:59 <|amethyst> %git 9988e5e 21:28:12 07bh02 * 0.12-a0-1480-g9988e5e: Death cob jokes. 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9988e5e4d4f0 21:28:14 <|amethyst> and 21:28:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:28:20 <|amethyst> %git 94ddc678 21:28:20 07bh02 * 0.12-a0-1479-g94ddc67: Abyss Monster Spawning 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 2 files, 66+ 40-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=94ddc6786750 21:28:35 Enemies drowned by water card do not grant experience by ledtim 21:28:46 <|amethyst> 1479 was the one with the bug, fixed in: 21:28:48 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^ 21:28:49 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-387-gdf6160b: Don't give malformed messages for invis abyss spawns (#7664) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=df6160b6ef9a 21:29:08 oh those 21:29:18 <|amethyst> (try &Mlorocyproca in the abyss without sinv) 21:30:13 yuck 21:32:08 <|amethyst> I didn't remove the is_visible parameter in case someone thinks of a situation beside "shoved" where it makes sense to set msg = "Something" 21:32:34 <|amethyst> s/ in/, in/ 21:33:39 <|amethyst> hm, I should try to claim some more combo scores for 1FOKN 21:34:48 !lg * won avg=time 21:34:48 Unknown field: avg 21:36:06 !lg * x=ave(dur) won 21:36:06 Unknown function: ave 21:36:09 !lg * x=avg(dur) won 21:36:10 14723 games for * (won): avg(dur)=13:34:53 21:36:52 !lg . x=avg(dur) won 21:36:52 6 games for bh (won): avg(dur)=15:28:08 21:36:53 !lg . won x=avg(dur) 21:36:53 19 games for Grunt (won): avg(dur)=6:21:42 21:37:04 ??greatplayers 21:37:05 greatplayers[1/2]: Players who have won every currently available to play race. Lifetime membership once you get in! 21:37:14 !lg greatplayers x=avg(dur) won 21:37:14 4190 games for greatplayers (won): avg(dur)=9:07:32 21:37:24 ??goodplayers 21:37:24 goodplayers[1/2]: 10 or more wins. 21:37:32 !lg goodplayers x=avg(dur) won 21:37:33 105 games for goodplayers (won): avg(dur)=5:59:17 21:38:27 "goodplayers" doesn't actually work :b 21:38:30 Try greatplayers. 21:38:34 Oh, you already did. 21:38:42 Unbreathing enemies drowning by ledtim 21:38:42 !lg greatplayers won urune=3 x=avg(dur0 21:38:42 Broken query near '' 21:38:43 !lg greatplayers won urune=3 x=avg(dur) 21:38:44 2398 games for greatplayers (won urune=3): avg(dur)=7:31:08 21:38:58 !lg bh won urune=3 x=avg(dur) 21:38:59 3 games for bh (won urune=3): avg(dur)=13:55:53 21:39:11 ... 21:39:25 !lg * x=avg(dur) won urune=3 21:39:26 6723 games for * (won urune=3): avg(dur)=10:05:30 21:41:14 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-388-g4756083 21:41:46 -!- _dd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:07 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:42:26 -!- moxian has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:43:11 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:45:35 darn eel ... 21:47:24 -!- mint_ is now known as Basil 21:49:28 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:53:32 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:52 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:09:11 -!- ark_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:12:18 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:38 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:30 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:16:31 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:17:08 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:20:19 -!- morik has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:20:22 -!- morik_ is now known as morik 22:21:24 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:28 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:26:46 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:16 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-389-g6b76d92: A bunch of decorative abyss entry vaults. 10(30 minutes ago, 1 file, 64+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b76d9282724 22:29:16 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-390-g131d11a: Rewrite (x*y)/z as x*y/z 10(15 minutes ago, 17 files, 39+ 40-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=131d11a7c2c1 22:29:16 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-391-gd3462e6: Typo fixes. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3462e6f0ffe 22:29:23 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:31 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30:33