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https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9555 05:59:54 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:02:09 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:02:36 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 06:03:49 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:06:32 -!- wolfram has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:07:25 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:16:16 <|amethyst> alefury: mumra has a comment on https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7237 with a hypothesis 06:16:31 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:16:39 <|amethyst> alefury: that the tilesheets are too big for some drivers or cards 06:18:23 they're not that big though 06:19:45 but the argument that the bug started affecting walls as the wall tile sheet got bigger is very convincing 06:20:17 oh by the way 06:20:28 did you know sojobo can spawn in something like spider:5 06:20:37 fun! 06:21:42 yes 06:21:52 Especially when you think about the fact that Sojobo is hardcore even in Vaults:5 06:22:01 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:22:13 DEPTH: D:20-, Swamp:$, Snake:$, Shoals:$, Spider:$, Vaults:2-, Crypt, Forest, Blade, Tomb 06:22:17 sounds intentional 06:22:34 (not necessarily good) 06:22:58 Sojobo (09H) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 20 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 2/22 | Dam: 28, 14, 14 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible, lev, DMsl | Res: 06magic(133) | XP: 5528 | Sp: b.lightning (3d24), wind blast, airstrike (0-50), air elementals | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 06:22:58 %??sojobo 06:23:04 tengu reaver (13H) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 17 | HP: 78-86 | AC/EV: 2/17 | Dam: 27, 11, 11 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(68) | XP: 2043 | Sp: b.lightning (3d22), battlesphere, freezing cloud (2d27) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 06:23:04 %??tengu reaver 06:25:03 crypt/forest are pretty much the same depth as lairbranch:$, so maybe he's just generally a bit too strong? 06:25:36 i never met him, but he sounds pretty brutal 06:33:40 Bloax: mennas can spawn in spider:5 too... sojobo is nothing 06:34:22 (also frederick, boris, mara, etc) 06:35:24 He spawns with a bunch of reavers, who are probably the worst enemies you'd meet in spider. 06:35:59 -!- flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:38:59 Napkin: there's spam on mantis :( 7633 06:40:59 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 06:45:08 -!- Ladykiller69 is now known as Drahbeg 06:46:26 on it 06:49:10 -!- Drahbeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:03 Is there a formula somwhere that elaborates the amount of damage selfsubbing does? 06:51:13 because I just died from ~60 HP and a small poison DoT 06:51:26 got dropped to 1 06:51:33 there is a formula in the source code, yes... 06:52:01 is there some limit? 06:52:20 <|amethyst> all your hp - 1 is the limit 06:52:26 <|amethyst> everything else is probabilitstic 06:52:48 so it can give you "excess mana"? 06:53:02 no, it stops when MP gets to max 06:53:03 <|amethyst> oh, it also stops at full MP 06:53:24 <|amethyst> but you could lose up to 4 HP per MP at low power 06:53:33 I didnt have low power 06:53:37 I had imense mana tho... 06:53:43 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 06:53:55 even at high power you can lose up to 4 HP per MP, it is just less likely 06:54:00 <|amethyst> yeah 06:54:04 there's also a limit on how much MP you can gain from one cast 06:54:38 even if I lost 2 HP per MP it could have brought me to 1 06:54:47 <|amethyst> elliptic: is there? I'm not seeing it 06:55:05 oh, no 06:55:15 <|amethyst> higher power means it's likely to heal more MP (after each MP there is a 6/power chance of stopping) 06:55:21 right 06:55:34 oh 06:55:48 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:55:52 so high power+high MP is basically somewhat suicidal? 06:56:07 no 06:56:17 well, if you are low on both HP and MP then it might take your HP to 1, yes 06:56:24 you are probably already in trouble if both HP and MP are low! 06:56:29 look at my last game 06:56:38 <|amethyst> elliptic: 55 maxmp, 109 maxhp 06:56:45 haha, okay 06:56:53 |amethyst: ? 06:56:58 the stats I had 06:57:00 <|amethyst> !lg drahberg -log 06:57:01 No games for drahberg. 06:57:03 in that case it may be somewhat problematic even at full hp 06:57:06 <|amethyst> !lg drahbeg -log 06:57:07 but what were your MP and HP actually at? 06:57:07 37. Drahbeg, XL17 DgWz, T:65336: http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Drahbeg/morgue-Drahbeg-20131015-114431.txt 06:57:17 it was 70 hp and 3/55 mp 06:57:29 like I said, low HP and MP both 06:57:44 note that sublimating there can still be a good idea 06:58:02 depending on other options 06:58:05 70/109 isnt exactly low 06:58:11 109 is low 06:58:21 for XL 17? 06:58:36 70 HP with stuff casting poison arrow at you is low, yes 06:58:48 oh no 06:58:53 that guy was already dead 06:58:54 <|amethyst> at spellcasting 16.6 and necromancy 10 I get a power of 42 06:59:00 the poison just persisted 06:59:07 |amethyst: he had archmagi 06:59:13 <|amethyst> oh, archmagi 06:59:18 (also 34 int) 06:59:30 (woooo Dg) 06:59:35 anyway sublimation is certainly a better spell if you have higher HP 06:59:43 <|amethyst> okay, 97 power 07:00:15 would it be too much to ask for to have selfsubbing not take more than half your current/max HP? 07:00:21 <|amethyst> so to lose 69 HP is quite a lot 07:00:42 for 52 mp? 07:00:48 <|amethyst> hm, the chance is 1.3%, which is quite high 07:00:52 |amethyst: well, only a 1/16 chance of stopping after each MP means that gaining 52 MP is pretty high 07:00:53 yes 07:00:53 <|amethyst> oh, right 07:01:02 Drahbeg: it's supposed to be dangerous 07:01:06 yes but 07:01:09 that dangerous? 07:01:11 <|amethyst> 3.6% of restoring to max MP 07:01:19 it's a necromantic spell that feeds on your own blood :P 07:01:37 <|amethyst> which means a loss of at least 52 HP 07:02:10 <|amethyst> (3.6% = (91/97)**52 07:02:11 <|amethyst> ) 07:02:40 (1+18/97)*52 is the average HP loss then 07:02:57 !calc 52.0*(1.0+18.0/97.0) 07:02:58 61.65 07:03:11 so a bit unlucky there, but not hugely 07:03:18 that seems 07:03:27 a bit crazy 07:03:57 <|amethyst> maybe if "won't kill you directly" took poison into account, too 07:04:09 <|amethyst> rather than dropping you to 1 so you can die later in the turn 07:04:14 -!- Helmschank has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:04:16 what next, monsters attacking you? 07:04:25 |amethyst: poison isn't guaranteed to do damage unless you have substantial poison 07:05:13 I suggest both a note in the spell description and the bots and some change in the spell that makes it unable to either take more than half of current HP or half of max HP 07:06:13 <|amethyst> what kind of note in the spell description? 07:06:18 <|amethyst> "can be dangerous"? 07:06:31 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:06:50 Something along those lines 07:06:57 <|amethyst> already there 07:07:00 fortunately the spell description already has those words, yes 07:07:08 maybe can be more painful than torment 07:07:20 <|amethyst> ... 07:07:27 -!- C7ty has quit [] 07:07:28 ??sublimation 07:07:29 sublimation of blood[1/1]: Converts HP, wielded chunks, or wielded potions of blood into MP. Each chunk or potion of blood is worth a small amount of MP. When used with HP, it restores a little more MP, each MP point costing up to 4 (avg. 1 + 18/pow) HP. Never directly fatal. 07:07:35 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:07:35 <|amethyst> Should we add that to every spell that can do more than HP/2 damage? 07:08:01 fire storm and ice storm could use warnings too, pretty sure more people have killed themselves with those spells than with sublimation 07:08:24 also refrigeration... 07:08:47 well it is fairly unique in that it ONLY damages the player and is cast by him as well 07:08:48 oh, pain can do more damage than torment too! if you are at 2 HP... 07:09:08 yeah, that would probably be a bad way to put it 07:10:05 but instant death really seems quite harsh 07:10:06 Caution: Fire Storm Smoking May be Hazardous to Your Health 07:10:08 :) 07:10:24 <|amethyst> But it won't cause instant death 07:10:34 <|amethyst> you cast something that hurts you while you were poisoned 07:10:40 Drahbeg: don't do things that reduce your HP when you are poisoned, mkay? 07:10:54 I was at 70 HP! 07:11:12 It's still silly that sublimation can kill you that way. 07:11:20 <|amethyst> granted, I would not have expected to lose 70 HP from one casting, but I've never really done high-power sublim 07:11:38 I know it CAN be avoided 07:12:38 but its not something you'd expect to ever happen 07:12:56 if it hasnt happened to you before 07:13:10 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 07:13:46 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 07:13:53 this reminds me of how you can die by using lugonu's enter the abyss ability while poisoned 07:14:10 (because it can take you to 1 HP sometimes) 07:14:44 high spellpower and high mana shouldnt be suicidal 07:14:45 <|amethyst> capping sublimation at 90% of currhp (not half) doesn't sound that bad 07:15:28 |amethyst: yeah, that sounds reasonable enough to me 07:15:33 I think making the chance that it stops an exponential function rather than a flat chance per MP would also be good 07:16:00 what do you even mean by exponential there 07:16:09 like 07:16:20 x to some power 07:16:23 what is x 07:16:28 hm 07:16:34 lemme put this right in mathematical terms 07:16:43 ah right 07:17:03 x²/a number to be determined 07:17:29 x being the number of HP you have already lost 07:17:59 <|amethyst> Maybe it should just have a lower spell cap 07:18:14 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:18:15 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:18:19 <|amethyst> if having the potential to give so much MP is so dangerous 07:18:25 <|amethyst> particularly since it's only a L2 spell 07:18:35 |amethyst: well, spell power does make it much better 07:18:47 elliptic do you get what I mean with that function 07:18:48 I certainly wouldn't put any lower cap than 100 07:18:52 I don't know what the current cap is 07:18:54 does it even show actually? 07:18:59 <|amethyst> elliptic: 100 is the current 07:19:32 x to the power of 2 / a number to be determined by testing 07:19:33 <|amethyst> Drahbeg: So make it more likely to give fewer MP and less likely to give more 07:19:40 yeah 07:19:44 I really think the spell is fine as is 07:19:52 maybe work spellpower in there somwhere 07:19:56 the 90% thing is reasonable 07:20:03 <|amethyst> Drahbeg: just reducing the spell power would have the same effect 07:20:05 failchance: (1+(0.2/maxmp))^mpgained 07:20:19 isn't that shitty to go through every single mp point 07:20:22 trying to come up with a totally new formula is just hard 07:20:44 well adding some consistency would be nice 07:20:55 <|amethyst> consistency with what? 07:21:13 consistency with the damage/mana it gives 07:21:14 Drahbeg: using your own blood as fuel for necromancy isn't supposed to be a consistent safe spell 07:21:23 eh 07:21:26 thats true 07:21:34 would probably make it OP 07:21:35 as things are, sometimes sublimation gives 1 MP and sometimes it gives 50, and I think this is good 07:21:43 make it fail once it reaches 6 hp 07:21:46 if it gave 10-20 reliably, it would be a lot more like cboe or something 07:21:48 done 07:22:05 |amethyst: why did we go through this whole thing of hosting the old tourney scoring pages on akrasiac, only to go and host the current tourney on dobrazupa :P 07:22:10 I like the 90% thing 07:22:29 it would prevent deaths like mine 07:22:47 and mine was the maximum of yasd possible 07:23:38 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:23:38 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:23:52 (more importantly, if self-sublimation was more consistent then it would be more like chunk-sublimation, and it's good to differentiate the two options) 07:24:06 <|amethyst> elliptic: sorry, 200 power cap, not 100 07:24:33 Sublimation is kind of fine. 07:24:40 elliptic I actually think that the main difference between selfsub and chunksub is if chunks are avaiable 07:24:51 It's stupid to use in combat unless you're desperate. 07:25:16 or 100% confident 07:25:30 well 07:25:47 not now 07:25:49 Drahbeg: funny, I'd have thought that the main difference between selfsub and chunksub would be that one lowers your HP :P 07:26:03 depends on your HP 07:27:17 Wensley: I guess maybe the plan is to migrate old tourney pages from cszo to cao when they are complete? because cszo is better at running the scripts but cao has more disk space, or something? 07:27:30 but anyway 07:27:49 I'd apreciate the 90% thing 07:27:59 cszo has a +2 enhancement bonus to running scripts 07:28:01 how do these minor changes get implemented? 07:28:01 <|amethyst> elliptic, Wensley: actually, it was mostly just that there were more tournament pages on CAO than CSZO already 07:28:52 <|amethyst> and I felt more comfortable giving elliptic an account on cszo, which is my machine, than cao, which is not 07:29:54 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 07:31:24 tourney win-count-by-race-tiers: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 34, 36 07:31:28 bit of a discontinuity there 07:31:53 at least gargoyles seem popular 07:31:59 <|amethyst> Drahbeg: somebody writes a patch, somebody commits it. Sometimes they are the same person 07:32:23 a lot of people like to try out new species, and Gr is also fairly easy 07:33:28 the discontinuity is still a bit disturbing, I'd prefer it if Mi was lower and HO or something was higher 07:33:42 incidentally, I made this earlier: 07:33:47 !tstats 3 07:33:50 Stats after 3 days (t): 879 players, 174 runers, 85 winners, winrate 1.29%, total player time 200d+14:03:08. 07:33:55 !tstats 3 t0.12 07:34:05 Stats after 3 days (t0.12): 898 players, 151 runers, 78 winners, winrate 0.94%, total player time 207d+16:10:29. 07:34:07 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:34:28 it will break if the tourney went over a month boundary 07:34:49 !tstats 3 t0.5 07:34:49 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:34:55 Stats after 3 days (t0.5): 279 players, 42 runers, 24 winners, winrate 0.88%, total player time 65d+2:09:09. 07:37:15 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-264-g4844ac9: Limit self-sublimation to 90% of current HP. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4844ac90122d 07:39:28 -!- kober has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 07:39:37 if you banish something and then kill it in the abyss do you gain 1,5 exp? 07:40:44 hopefully you still gain full xp for it when you find it in abyss, yes 07:41:00 since it is replacing another monster, potentially one that is completely identical 07:41:11 if you banished something that spawns naturally in abyss, I mean 07:41:24 ah 07:43:39 I actually asked some time ago if it wouldnt be a cool thing if CKs started with a cursed amulet of faith 07:43:58 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:44:15 everyone said it was stupid but no one ever told me why 07:44:23 it would make people a lot more likely to abandon xom on CK 07:44:24 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 07:44:26 this seems bad 07:44:39 yes but you'd risk wrath of xom for it 07:45:01 !lg * recent ck won s=god 07:45:01 134 games for * (recent ck won): 95x Xom, 8x Jiyva, 5x The Shining One, 4x Kikubaaqudgha, 4x Okawaru, 3x Makhleb, 3x Lugonu, 3x Zin, 2x Trog, 2x Nemelex Xobeh, 2x Ashenzari, 2x, Sif Muna 07:45:03 <|amethyst> // Note: we do not set MF_GOT_HALF_XP, the monster is usually not 07:45:03 <|amethyst> // distinguishable from others of the same kind in the Abyss. 07:45:11 this hasn't stopped a lot of people 07:45:14 |amethyst: cool :) 07:45:21 weird 07:45:28 Amulets of faith are very good. 07:45:33 why did they start CK in the first place then? 07:45:43 honestly xom wrath is probably safer than xom worship, at least if you get a real god 07:45:52 a real god with a very good amulet... 07:45:56 ah 07:47:02 ck would be the new pr :P 07:47:19 why are there no rings of MP regen btw? 07:47:34 !lg * pr won s=god 07:47:35 328 games for * (pr won): 142x Beogh, 64x Zin, 30x The Shining One, 17x Trog, 16x Yredelemnul, 13x Okawaru, 8x Elyvilon, 7x Lugonu, 7x Makhleb, 7x Jiyva, 6x Ashenzari, 3x Cheibriados, 3x Sif Muna, 2x Vehumet, 2x Nemelex Xobeh, Xom 07:48:38 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:48:43 !lg * ck won s=god 07:48:44 377 games for * (ck won): 168x Xom, 93x Makhleb, 43x Lugonu, 15x The Shining One, 15x Jiyva, 10x Trog, 7x Zin, 6x Okawaru, 4x Kikubaaqudgha, 4x Ashenzari, 4x Nemelex Xobeh, 3x Elyvilon, 2x, 2x Sif Muna, Yredelemnul 07:57:19 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:39 !tell grunt the 0.13 android package is uploaded 07:57:40 galehar: OK, I'll let grunt know. 07:58:14 this game exists for android? 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09:16:38 yes, not on servers yet though (since they only update automatically once a day) 09:18:04 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:18:11 ah 09:19:13 Not that I will get this lucky with my statrng again =/ 09:21:17 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:17 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:24:36 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:19 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:26:17 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:27:52 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:31:26 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:13 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:35:57 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:40:08 -!- read_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:42:34 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:54 clan seems to be down 09:43:02 no 09:43:10 its just creaking loudly 09:43:19 and violently 09:45:42 -!- crate__ is now known as crate 09:46:48 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:49:06 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 09:51:55 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:54:11 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:11 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:59:02 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:00:25 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:01:47 -!- Hubbard has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:01:48 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:05:48 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:07:04 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:08:28 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:10 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:25 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:15:28 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:17:41 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:18:57 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:20 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:21:14 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:21:50 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:26:22 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:26:41 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:53 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:33:49 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:36:44 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:37:41 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:39:26 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:44:18 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:05 -!- Gamesmaster has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:50:26 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:43 !tell xFleury crawl actually does use threads, but only while reading the database (and I'd like to do so for maps as well). This has support for Windows, although it can be disabled without big ill effects. 10:52:45 kilobyte: OK, I'll let xfleury know. 10:53:14 kilobyte, I just spotted a dryad zombie in a 0.13 game in progress. 10:53:34 Grunt: yeah, me too 10:54:28 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:54:34 should be mostly safe as zombies don't get spells or special abilities, but I've heard about polymoths too... 10:54:48 Someone else saw a lava orc zombie, IIRC. 10:56:28 -!- Assbag has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:56:44 alefury: as far as I know, this happens on Windows for every graphics card other than the newest and greatest 10:58:40 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 10:58:46 alefury: 99% of people never heard about something other than ATI/AMD, nVidia and perhaps sometimes Intel 10:59:29 Well, it's intel in this case, and intel cards are getting more and more common. Crawl even works on many of them! 10:59:54 not all, I guess 11:00:01 What do you think about mumra's theory that it's related to size of sprite sheets? 11:00:23 at least this looks exactly like what I get in virtual machines 11:00:51 ...what's going wrong now? 11:01:11 same screen size as natively 11:02:35 -!- Cryp71c_ is now known as Cryp71c 11:03:17 <|amethyst> Grunt: same white boxes instead of sprites as before 11:03:40 <|amethyst> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7237 11:04:01 <|amethyst> https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9555 11:07:17 <|amethyst> kilobyte: can't zombie_picker::veto just veto M_UNFINISHED along with M_NO_GEN_DERIVED ? 11:07:46 |amethyst: sounds better than what I had in mind 11:13:27 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-265-g3275460: Don't randomly generate unfinished derived undead. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3275460c9979 11:13:28 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 11:15:02 -!- Burer has quit [Changing host] 11:15:10 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:35 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 11:20:43 hi, i have a question about the sublimation change that went in. since it's capped at 10% hp, this also makes it impossible to restore a huge chunk of MP in one cast, right? I liked how you could damage yourself but get a huge MP boost 11:20:44 evilmike: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:21:12 unless i'm reading something wrong it seems like there's much lower risk now, but also less of a reward in general 11:21:19 evilmike: it's not 10% HP max, it's 90% HP max. 11:21:29 i.e. it can drop you to at most 10% of your current HP. 11:21:36 ah, that's fine then 11:21:44 -!- ZebTM_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:22:10 yeah iwas confused by something 11:22:34 -!- wya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:22:49 <|amethyst> evilmike: the impetus was someone who self-sublimed from 70 hp down to 1. While poisoned. 11:23:06 <|amethyst> evilmike: this way it would be down to 7 :) 11:23:21 haha 11:24:18 <|amethyst> granted, they got 52 MP back from it :) 11:25:34 i suppose you could still get knocked down to like 15 hp and then destroyed by a hell effect. those are still a 50% chance every 20th turn I think 11:26:07 <|amethyst> Yeah, but those are hell effects 11:26:20 <|amethyst> they could just as well paralyse you and let monsters knock you down to 0 11:26:41 <|amethyst> (I guess there was talk of changing that?) 11:26:41 was that sublimation thing an online death? I want to watch the replay... 11:26:49 !lg * ktyp=poison 11:26:50 118204. dialectric the Skirmisher (L4 CeCK), worshipper of Xom, succumbed to a kobold's poison on D:3 on 2013-10-15 16:20:47, with 142 points after 1716 turns and 0:03:24. 11:26:56 <|amethyst> !lg drahbeg 37 11:26:56 37/40. Drahbeg the Eclecticist (L17 DgWz), succumbed to a naga mage's poison arrow on Snake:4 on 2013-10-15 11:44:31, with 190091 points after 65336 turns and 8:27:10. 11:27:04 !lg drahbeg 37 -tv 11:27:04 37/40. Drahbeg, XL17 DgWz, T:65336 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 11:28:59 You draw magical energy from your own body! You die... 11:29:05 !learn add hilarious_deaths !lg drahbeg 37 -tv 11:29:06 hilarious deaths[156/156]: !lg drahbeg 37 -tv 11:29:37 )= 11:29:43 and I was on such a good run 11:30:34 it's ok. memoriable deaths are just as good as memoriable wins, and a lot harder to pull off too 11:30:50 mostly because I have figured out just HOW hard you can abuse wizard 11:30:58 (please dont nerf) 11:32:24 -!- jarpiain has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:32:32 I'll never forget the death that inspired me to create ??badteleport. 11:32:39 ??badteleport 11:32:40 badteleport[1/8]: !lg SGrunt place=vaults:1 1 -tv:<1.5 11:32:44 (it's actually badteleport[2) 11:32:47 ??badteleport[2 11:32:48 badteleport[2/8]: !lg SGrunt 664 -tv:<0.1:x0.2 11:32:54 !lg SGrunt 664 -tv:<0.1:x0.2 11:32:55 664/1119. SGrunt, XL23 HEGl, T:105582 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 11:32:56 !lg SGrunt 664 -tv:<0.1:x0.2 11:32:57 664/1119. SGrunt, XL23 HEGl, T:105582 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 11:33:08 -!- jarpiain has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:09 i like how you omit the ], very efficient 11:33:32 -!- jarpiain is now known as Guest13354 11:33:38 how do you slow footv down? 11:33:42 That's the 'x0.2' 11:33:58 !lg . max=sdam x=sdam 11:33:58 1160. [sdam=135] SGrunt the Crack Shot (L23 HEGl), worshipper of Fedhas, blasted by an electric golem (bolt of lightning) on Zot:4 on 2013-01-31 22:39:08, with 419219 points after 105582 turns and 5:45:30. 11:34:06 FUCK ME SIDEWAYS 11:34:28 Scroll of summoning is quite 11:34:31 o_O 11:35:12 * Grunt tries to think of which other deaths of his he remembers well. 11:35:28 Well, the moment of gameplay I remember most is this: 11:35:30 ??great near misses[2 11:35:31 great near misses[2/12]: !lm SGrunt defe rune=serpentine 1 -tv:<0.5:>1.5 11:35:52 I'm astonished at how badly I handled that and still survived. 11:36:35 I also fondly remember the badteleport involving Mennas and Snake:5 <_< 11:36:36 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:36:53 Aahahahha 11:36:55 thats just 11:36:58 iek 11:37:23 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:37:29 !lg . teae snake:5 -tv:<3.0 11:37:30 1. SGrunt, XL18 TeAE, T:58367 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 11:37:30 hm 11:37:47 You should create an unique named Zermako 11:37:57 its a minotaur 11:38:00 Drahbeg: does it just run up to you at speed 50 with a one damage attack? 11:38:01 and just runs at you 11:38:45 and he's like boris 11:40:34 and he needs lines from ??zermako 11:40:42 such as 11:40:48 ??zermako[3 11:40:49 zermako[3/18]: ok zermako here's what we're going to do, I'm going to start a game, and a take one turn, whenever you die and we'll see who gets to lair first 11:40:54 eh 11:40:57 maybe not that one 11:41:02 ??zermako[4 11:41:03 zermako[4/18]: < Sky2> maybe i'm too careful 11:42:07 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:59 -!- Blazinghand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:50 and he drops a potion of heal wounds 11:43:59 -!- Blazinghand__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:15 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:46:59 and he doesnt give exp 11:47:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:47:12 -!- Blazinghand__ is now known as Blazinghand 11:47:51 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:49:04 or maybe he charges literally everything there 11:49:11 (in LOS) 11:49:22 like permanently under the discord spell 11:50:19 "frenzied and insane" 11:50:26 ...this sounds like a fairly accurate description <_< 11:50:42 it would actually not make a bad NPC either 11:50:46 unique 11:51:47 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 11:52:05 also cFlame+polearme MAYBE needs to be nerfed... 11:53:29 he also has to appear before lair 11:53:31 exclusively 11:54:30 and there should be a 1/10 chance that he's a troll 11:54:53 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:57:35 is there any chance this will actually happen :o? 11:58:45 unfortunately yes 12:01:14 -!- jooosa has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:45 !messages 12:02:46 No messages for TZer0. 12:03:28 -!- joos has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:03:28 -!- jooosa is now known as joos 12:04:01 and when zermako kils zermako you have to drink a shot 12:04:09 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04:10 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:05:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:08:02 Grunt: could you take a look at this https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2532 and tell me what you think about the flavor text ive put there? 12:08:20 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13.0-7-g3df9ff1 12:08:30 -!- C7ty has quit [] 12:13:38 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-265-g3275460 (34) 12:14:37 -!- myrmidette has quit [Client Quit] 12:18:27 -!- QQQ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:21:27 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:26:34 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:27:01 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:55 -!- _dd has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:29:07 Oooh 12:29:13 new Centaur-sprites. 12:30:08 -!- Ruffell has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:30:13 -!- Guest13354 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:30:14 -!- joos has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:31:43 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:33:57 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:35:49 -!- jooosa has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:55 -!- jooosa is now known as joos 12:36:46 -!- Ruffell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:12 -!- jarpiain has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:36 -!- jarpiain is now known as Guest80180 12:43:10 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:40 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:44:34 Grunt: wouldn't that be "no less than 10% of your max HP"? not "at most"? 12:46:34 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:17 Er... yes. 12:50:18 isnt the exp you get for killing a boulder beetle a tad low? 12:51:03 boulder beetle (15B) | Spd: 6 | HD: 9 | HP: 75-81 | AC/EV: 20/2 | Dam: 45 | Res: 06magic(36) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 256 | Sz: Big | Int: insect. 12:51:03 %??boulder beetle 12:51:13 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:51:31 Drahbeg: what would be an example of a monster you think it should have similar XP to? 12:51:44 hm 12:51:46 2 yaks? 12:51:55 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 39-44 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(28) | XP: 206 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 12:51:55 %??yak 12:52:47 -!- Burer has quit [Quit: Truly, the end of days.] 12:53:32 -!- joos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53:40 -!- jooosa has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:44 -!- jooosa is now known as joos 12:56:30 Unlike normal slow enemies, boulder beetles are much rougher than that. 12:57:14 Since they also have a ridiculous roll attack that hits for a lot of damage after rolling one tile and into you. 12:57:15 they can also boulder you as a meele attack 12:57:27 not one tile 12:57:38 I am fairly certain it works in meele 12:59:34 It works in melee, but I don't recall them using it. 12:59:54 And it'd be overpowered seeing as it's an EV-bypassing attack. 13:00:26 -!- MDesigner has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:01:31 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:04:26 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:05:17 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:05:26 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:19 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:08:15 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:08:37 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:08 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:26 -!- tkappleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:13:14 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:39 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:11 they totally do it in melee 13:22:14 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:58 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:06 well actually 13:23:11 Dam: 45 13:23:22 maybe they just got nearly max damage 13:24:50 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:27:03 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:27:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:40:12 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 13:48:44 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:52:07 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:05:35 -!- timbw has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:20:27 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:21:20 -!- wya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:21:21 how about naming firestorm "Breath of gehenna"? 14:21:29 or asmodeus 14:21:53 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:22:48 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:23:19 is firestorm too straightforward and descriptive for you 14:24:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:24:50 too yes 14:25:03 breath of asmodeus sounds way cooler. 14:26:01 but then what will good god worshippers who want to cast that spell do when Zin decress it forbidden on the grounds of trafficking with infernal forces!? 14:27:15 Power of asmodeus? 14:28:13 "Your honor, we have nothing to do with the demon prince of hell, his name just -happens- to be all over our prayer books" 14:28:13 Cerebov's Flash 14:29:27 never mind asmodeus doesn't actually have fire storm 14:29:50 but seriously 14:29:57 firestorm sounds so horribly dull 14:30:09 napalmstorm 14:30:19 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:30:25 "Death from above!" 14:30:44 burning rain 14:30:46 if the idea of a storm of fire is dull but some dude's breath somehow isn't 14:30:47 well 14:30:52 I don't know what to say 14:30:55 seriously 14:31:02 bolt of fire is where you should complain 14:31:05 FIRESTORM is quite badass 14:31:11 trie 14:31:13 true 14:32:20 but I can get behind the bolt spells 14:32:27 since they are all similar 14:32:38 so the naming is in that direction as well 14:34:53 firebolt icebolt magmabolt 14:34:58 done 14:35:05 -!- Nightbeer has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:27 and everyone's favourite; lightningbolt 14:37:20 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.] 14:37:24 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:37:53 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:39:09 -!- Drahbeg has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:39:31 |amethyst, i think cszo is down 14:39:35 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:40:35 hmm, pinging Sizzell does seem not to work 14:40:59 it's also doing the thing where spectating in DGL just hangs without doing anything 14:42:48 it seems that you can still play games though 14:44:11 ??plutionium sword 14:44:12 I don't have a page labeled plutionium_sword in my learndb. 14:45:34 ??plutonium sword 14:45:35 plutonium sword[1/3]: The +12,+16 plutonium sword {Contam Stlth-}. Base type is triple sword. Sometimes causes transmutation miscasts (damage, petrification, confusion, polymorph) on things it hits. 14:45:42 use it. it's like the best sword ever 14:45:43 never unwield it 14:46:43 ??plutionium[2] 14:46:43 I don't have a page labeled plutionium[2] in my learndb. 14:46:43 s/sword/weapon 14:46:47 ??plutonium[2] 14:46:47 I don't have a page labeled plutonium[2] in my learndb. 14:46:50 ??plutonium sword[2] 14:46:51 plutonium sword[2/3]: I feel like learndb should have an entry on not hitting ballistomycetes with plutonium sword. 14:47:22 well gee, it looks like it has one now ... 14:47:45 ??plutonium sword[3 14:47:46 plutonium sword[3/3]: Mutagenic energy flows through the plutonium sword! Gastronok evaporates and reforms as an acid blob! 14:50:57 -!- dg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:15 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:52:34 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:10 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:50 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:01:19 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:02:27 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:03:50 why 4 hells? 15:04:12 wouldn't 9 or 7 be more thematic? 15:04:44 that would also be a lot of hells 15:04:57 nobody would care about them 15:04:58 a helluva lot 15:05:02 unless they contained runes 15:05:21 every mythology/fantasy cosmology has a different number of them, though 15:05:33 so 4 is just as fine 15:05:50 its crawl tho 15:05:59 thats why I said 7 or 9 15:06:42 Bloax: über loot would be enough, too -- heck, sometimes you'd do a hell for a single potion of cure mutation 15:06:52 Bloax: I don't like multiplying them, though 15:07:09 or 27 hells that come in stacks of 9 15:07:11 Nightbeer: well, to follow Crawl's rules we'd need 27 of them 15:07:21 heh, right 15:08:31 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:08:58 why not 15:09:20 9 hells in a huge streak of 3 floors 15:09:28 ? 15:09:39 no I meant 15:09:42 3 branches 15:09:50 with 9 levels each 15:10:04 levels 1-6 hardly exist 15:10:52 they could have a boss each 15:11:53 and the last one really powerful 15:12:22 yeah lets just add 5 more dungeon branches, that wont be hard to do at all 15:12:38 more like removing one 15:13:29 still odd. do you have a reason for this besides liking the number more? 15:13:45 removing one would imply that you're removing something 15:13:55 in this case you're adding a ton of new content 15:14:02 it would bring 15:14:09 unless you want the 27 hells to be almost identical 15:14:15 in which case what's even the point 15:14:20 a metric ton of possibilities for interesting bosses 15:14:31 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15:01 concepts < ideas <<< implementations 15:15:40 themes would be hard to establish around the number 3 tho... 15:15:46 i don't think we're even at "concept" yet. do you have any ideas for bosses or enemies in particular? 15:16:14 there's no need to add a new branch. if you have some idea, maybe you could make a new unique 15:16:19 mostly throwing ideas around based on the question why there are 4 hells 15:17:20 the only proposed new hell I remember was "the deep", and even that has theme holes like "how do you breathe?" 15:17:33 hm 15:17:36 that sounds quite cool 15:17:38 but yeah 15:17:42 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:46 i think i remember someone coming up with a "silence hell" but then tartarus got silent spectres and that was good enough 15:18:36 tome4 has water dungeons where you can only breathe on "air" squares (which go away after you stand on one for a while). they're not fun 15:19:09 silence hell would be too anti-caster 15:22:45 and a cakewalk fot everyone else if it was built in a way that allowed casters to do it somehow 15:28:27 -!- dg_ has quit [] 15:34:53 -!- ahorribleplayer has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:36:37 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:47 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:40:48 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: ophanim] 15:41:28 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49:32 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:51:21 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51:54 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:55 -!- evilmike has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53:09 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:53:38 -!- indspenc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:19 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:55:35 -!- whales has quit [Quit: homeward bound] 15:59:09 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:01:22 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:02:40 kilobyte: what kernel are you running? 16:03:03 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:04:42 SamB: well, I happened to reboot just an hour ago, to current Linus' tip to test something 16:05:08 I normally don't mess with the kernel though, running whatever is in Debian unstable or during freezes, experiemntal) 16:05:14 -!- jeffro has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 16:05:37 hmm, should have specified "on that ARM box" 16:06:05 -!- Moanerette has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:06:32 well, which one? :p 16:07:43 I have never learned how to set up uboot+friends, so I'm on ancient ones 16:07:57 on the box I stress test Crawl, 3.0.68 16:08:43 okay, so this porterbox actually has a much newer kernel 16:08:51 at least, it's 3.2 16:13:12 -!- _dd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15:20 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:16:21 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:26:00 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:52 -!- Naruni has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:30:09 <|amethyst> hm, anyone still having cszo problems? 16:30:33 <|amethyst> seems to be working for me now, including spectating 16:31:16 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:32:05 -!- dead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:33:12 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:33:23 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:33:45 <|amethyst> oh, hm, spectating from console might still be problematic 16:33:49 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:34:41 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:36:17 <|amethyst> after traversing all the inprogress directories, dgamelaunch is hanging on a futex 16:36:36 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:43 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 16:41:41 <|amethyst> it's in sem_wait 16:46:04 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:47:39 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:47:50 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:26 -!- Pisano has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:52:53 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:53:14 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:57:26 -!- C7ty has quit [] 17:03:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 17:04:58 what's it waiting for? 17:06:01 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:06:02 -!- Pulseman is now known as VolteccerJack 17:09:42 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:47 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:11:44 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:00 -!- Pisano has quit [Client Quit] 17:13:41 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:13:56 |amethyst: Not sure if it's related, but I can't view the tournament pages on dobrazupa.org either 17:15:50 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:15:51 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:18:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:20:58 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:21:46 <|amethyst> restarted apache 17:23:16 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:25 <|amethyst> oh, running out of memory 17:25:02 Rupert (04@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 123 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 21 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(106) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 2162 | Sp: paralyse, confuse, berserker rage | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 17:25:02 %??Rupert 17:26:02 -!- Silurio has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 17:26:31 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:28:10 Do weapons of protection honestly only give 5 AC to monsters? 17:28:18 The effect seems much, much better on them. 17:29:06 Bloax: for a monster, 10 AC is a lot 17:29:14 10 AC? 17:29:17 20 AC is massive 17:29:41 -!- P1x3lF1r3 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:42 @??lich 17:29:43 lich (15L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 80-81 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 1513(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3300 | Sp: b.cold (3d29), paralyse, greater demon, animate dead, iron shot (3d34), 04esc:teleport self / b.fire (3d29), confuse, haste, b.draining (3d27), grea.. 17:29:46 @??stone giant 17:29:46 stone giant (15C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 90-94 | AC/EV: 12/2 | Dam: 45 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(85), 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1470 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 17:29:59 I'm asking because I just witnessed a splat: http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/4tharraofdagon/morgue-4tharraofdagon-20131015-222333.txt 17:30:07 To Rupert with a great mace of protection. 17:30:26 because he didn't exactly take much damage even to an exec axe of electrocution 17:31:01 with berserk might 17:31:23 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32:38 On a different topic, I just had a spontaneous idea for mimics. 17:32:38 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:37 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:33:44 They could be quite a lot stronger, but also not bother following you for a long distance. 17:33:54 And actually become what they represent once they are killed. 17:34:04 so instead of mimics they would be animated features 17:34:24 which at least ought to fix the whole 'broken hopes' feature of mimics 17:34:27 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:52 statue mimics would trap you up 17:35:01 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35:32 might be interesting for branch stairs, but pretty hard to explain theme-wise 17:36:39 -!- PunchRockgroin_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:36:39 They're pretty much the same as dancing weapons. 17:36:39 Except not guaranteed to even be mobile. 17:38:21 <|amethyst> okay, "fixed" the watch thing by doing a manual ipcrm on that segment 17:38:54 |amethyst: which watch thing? 17:39:16 <|amethyst> Grunt: trying to enter the watch menu from CSZO dgamelaunch was hanging 17:39:19 Oh. 17:39:31 <|amethyst> Grunt: apparently because something was hit by the OOM killer at the wrong time 17:40:35 <|amethyst> OOM killer triggered because apache was taking over 4GB across hundreds of processes 17:40:36 * Grunt hits it! Ouch! That really hurt! 17:40:43 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:39 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:50:27 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:51:23 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:52:11 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:09 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:52 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56:42 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:02:49 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:10 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 18:05:01 * gammafunk casts Orb of Memory. The orb hits Grunt. Grunt is deallocated! 18:05:48 * Grunt dereferences an invalid pointer! Ouch! That really hurt! The game dies... 18:08:01 now that jumping is a boot brand 18:08:12 how about some unrand spring-heeled boots 18:08:29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring-heeled_Jack 18:09:01 spring-heeled jackboots? 18:09:06 you spring forward! you leap over the rat! you land in the lava! 18:09:06 * Grunt flees in abject terror. 18:10:30 obviously spring-heeled jackboots would be used to stomp on things 18:11:00 high evoc or dex or Fighting or whatever would let you jump on a goblin and knock it over a square 18:11:46 what if i want winter-heeled jackboots instead 18:12:31 implement boots of freezing obviously. 18:13:08 i don't really like the idea of jumping 18:13:09 too nethacky 18:13:20 not that i've tried it in crawl yet, mind you 18:15:13 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:15:34 -!- reaver has quit [] 18:18:24 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 18:21:02 -!- daf_ has quit [] 18:24:14 -!- orelius has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:37:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:47:52 <|amethyst> Zannick: it's quite different in practice, since you have only limited control over where you jump and where you land 18:48:44 <|amethyst> and you can't do it repeatedly because it uses the Exh timer 18:49:06 -!- dg__ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:45 <|amethyst> gammafunk: thoughts on #7635? I kind of think there should be some kind of fumbling if you are in water when you *start* but I'm not sure what the effect should be (probably "fail to jump" is simpler and less abusable than "jump to the wrong square") 18:54:39 -!- dead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:57:48 my irc client links #STRING to a chatroom named STRING whenever it sees it 18:58:01 yet I click on it every time, thinking it will take me to the bug url 18:59:00 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 18:59:08 |amethyst: Currently we disallow jump when you're in water 18:59:16 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 18:59:20 whether shallow or deep 18:59:43 <|amethyst> oh, okay 18:59:53 can you jump if you are flying? 18:59:56 Not fumbling the attack does make sense 18:59:57 <|amethyst> that's "some kind of fumbling" I guess :) 19:00:02 wheals: Yes 19:00:08 crawl_physics 19:00:13 wheals: are you also Whales? 19:00:17 no 19:00:19 haha 19:00:25 The bug reporter was Whales 19:00:40 so sorry, but the similarity seemed too high 19:01:14 it *would* be cool if you could set up channel->bugtracker mappings so you could open bugs from #123456 19:01:55 wheals: Initially I disallowed jump while flying, but it was argued against on this channel. The jump attack is a kind of 'magical' jump, so I feel allowing it is fine 19:02:15 it's a natural thing for felids, though 19:02:33 wheals: Not purely natural. It requires a monster target, remember 19:02:40 hm 19:02:41 If it were natural, you could just jump anywhere 19:02:41 true 19:04:14 |amethyst: I'm certainly ok with the non-fumbling change. 19:05:18 |amethyst: Do you think making jump attack count as an escape attempt for constriction is a good idea? Currently it's just disallowed 19:05:30 Maybe the escape attempt is just unecessary complexity 19:05:51 <|amethyst> I think being disallowed is fine 19:06:04 <|amethyst> if it were an escape attempt it would be a nonoptimal one 19:06:14 <|amethyst> since you can just use the arrow key to do the same thing 19:06:18 yes 19:09:34 -!- Alumjha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:09:50 -!- Gotham has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:11:19 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:12:00 * SamB grumbles about how searing ray makes a lousy chaingun: can't retarget it ... 19:12:42 <|amethyst> SamB: magic dart is more of a chaingun really 19:12:43 !send SamB a lightning rod 19:12:44 Sending a lightning rod to SamB. 19:13:00 <|amethyst> but without the ministun 19:16:57 <|amethyst> btw, is there anything we can do to merge jump-attack jumping and blue devil swooping? They seem kind of similar 19:18:08 <|amethyst> (also jumping spider jumping, though mechanically that one's quite different) 19:18:19 <|amethyst> s/one's/one's currently/ 19:18:53 |amethyst: I could make them use the jump targetter. MarvinPA has a very simple implementation for swoop 19:19:24 Not even sure how jumping spider works. Is it just a blink? 19:19:34 wha 19:19:41 swoop wasn't me 19:19:45 Oh, sorry, was that kilobyte 19:19:46 i have no clue how it works 19:20:00 -!- Suga_H has quit [] 19:20:07 Well the implementation is nice and simple, to that person's credit :) 19:21:12 |amethyst: I didn't make that a priority since, gameplay-wise, the benefit of switching for the monster is pretty subtle. 19:21:43 Not to mention I'm not sure if the pathing restrictions of targetter_jump (can't jump over flying, giant enemies) are the best thing for the monster 19:22:17 Those restrictions could be special-cased for monsters easilly, however 19:22:48 |amethyst: If you think it's worth making blue devil and possibly jumping spider use the jump targetter, I can make a patch. 19:24:11 -!- dg__ has quit [] 19:24:49 isn't the jump targetter complicated enough as it is? 19:25:03 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:27:24 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:27:45 SamB: The targetter itself is not very complicated. The fight_jump() business has player-specific prompting checks that ideally would live in the melee_attack class 19:27:56 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:22 I'm not sure that doing the prompting from that class is the best thing, but it's how things are done 19:28:38 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:37 -!- Deckard_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:32:26 <|amethyst> swoop was DracoOmega I think 19:32:32 <|amethyst> %git :/blue devil 19:32:51 07DracoOmega02 * 0.13-a0-1015-g5965638: Red devil adjustments 10(5 months ago, 5 files, 58+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5965638e3259 19:33:01 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:33:08 <|amethyst> %git :/blue devil^ 19:33:16 Could not find commit :/blue devil^ (git returned 128) 19:33:21 wait, why am I told I can bottle blood from a corpse before I've reached xl6 19:33:36 oh no it said drain 19:33:38 a targetter object is supposed to take an aim's parameters and return a mapping of coords -> affected or not. No more, no less. 19:33:45 -!- orionstein is now known as orionstein_away 19:33:59 using it for prompts seems wrong to me, and limits its uses 19:36:17 for example, I think an easy to code improvement to the interface would be looping through all possible aims, multiplying estimated damage by desirability of having a given actor dead, and picking the best. Both for players and monsters. 19:36:22 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I think gammafunk meant fight_jump, not the targetter, even though he said "class" 19:36:57 Yes, when I said class, I meant melee_attack 19:37:19 In that prompting the player in melee_attack seems a bit problematic, but that's how it's currently done 19:37:49 <|amethyst> "how it's currently done" in melee_attack isn't a good model :) 19:38:28 <|amethyst> not to denigrate Cryp71c's work---it's better than before it was melee_attack 19:38:28 Yes; I just didn't want to go rewriting such a critical bit of code that much 19:38:40 <|amethyst> Somebody has to :) 19:40:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-266-g978670c: Don't fumble jump attacks that land in water (Whales, #7635) 10(29 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=978670c68132 19:40:59 I suppose handling all prompting in direction_chooser would be ideal 19:42:06 I don't know 19:42:53 isn't that already pretty complicated? 19:42:59 Yes, very 19:43:05 But it's only every called for the player 19:43:18 As opposed to special-casing prompts in melee_attack for player/monster 19:43:28 *only ever called 19:43:50 maybe it needs a home of its own? 19:43:53 <|amethyst> but sometimes you don't know yet until you evaluate the attack brand etc 19:44:01 <|amethyst> don't know whether you need to prompt 19:44:08 <|amethyst> e.g. elec brand 19:44:30 <|amethyst> maybe melee_attack should have only stop_attack_prompts though 19:44:36 <|amethyst> s/should/could/ 19:46:02 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:55 |amethyst: It seems that stop_attack_prompts could be called from direction_chooser 19:48:31 I suppose you'd have to do some peeking at the player brand, but that's all easy to get to from the player instance 19:50:34 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 19:50:38 without making direction_chooser worse? 19:55:51 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:04 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57:43 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:57:49 SamB: Well, there would be more code in direction_chooser :) 19:59:22 -!- scummos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:00:07 gammafunk: can we do this without bloating the existing functions/methods by more than a couple lines? 20:00:52 SamB: Maybe I'll see what I can do, and will have people take a look. At the very least it would be something for people to make fun of 20:07:48 * gammafunk fails to rewrite the class! Xom roars with laughter! gammafunk dies... 20:09:13 * Zannick slouches. 20:09:35 * Zannick postpones more work. 20:10:58 * Grunt feels time thicken for a moment. 20:11:21 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:13:01 -!- Senjai has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:40 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:16:40 -!- Pulseman is now known as VolteccerJack 20:19:59 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:20:43 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:01 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:24:49 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:30 !seen jday 20:25:31 I last saw jday at Mon Sep 23 04:16:43 2013 UTC (3w 1d 21h 8m 48s ago) quitting with message 'Quit: Leaving'. 20:27:33 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 20:27:57 TRAPS (L24 DgEE) (D:22) 20:28:21 -!- DaneiTHREE has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:29:18 -!- MoRoSKiT has quit [Quit: Quitte] 20:30:00 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:30:19 -!- UseBees has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:30:28 thanks sizzell 20:31:58 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: Good night, and good luck! :D] 20:32:33 !lm traps crash -log 20:32:33 1. TRAPS, XL24 DgEE, T:93276 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/TRAPS/crash-TRAPS-20131016-012757.txt 20:32:38 -!- pix3l has joined ##crawl-dev 20:36:15 pixell 20:36:45 good name for a webtiles bot 20:40:10 hai zannick 20:40:44 -!- witwit has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40:53 If ever I have a Crawl server the bot is going to be called Lemuell. 20:40:56 * Grunt flees in terror. 20:41:40 If I ever have a crawl server, I'm going to need someone else to admin it 20:41:55 pizzell? 20:42:06 schizzell? 20:42:18 It needs to be seven letters and end in "ell". <_< 20:42:37 Schnitzell 20:42:47 does crawl have 27 levels because rogue had 26? 20:43:41 -!- dg__ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:44:57 if we could get a domain like magicschoolbus 20:45:07 and then the bot could be MrsFrizzell 20:45:08 Zannick: how about 'ch4n.org'? 20:46:01 or MsFrizzell 20:46:05 not sure which is correct 20:48:26 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:49:29 -!- dead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:53:12 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:53:16 -!- kilobyte has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:58:25 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:58:54 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:20 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:41 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:04:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:08:15 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:15:30 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:35 -!- pix3l has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:24:27 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:31:05 -!- LordLovebone has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:31:10 -!- Kurshu_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35:31 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:43:32 -!- soundlust is now known as Soundlust 21:47:20 -!- Senjai has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:47:31 -!- Senjai_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:19 -!- emeraldemon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:53:10 -!- giantbat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:29 bh: But even so, why did rogue have 26?! 21:54:55 who even knows? 21:55:39 Actually I think it may be related to rogue having 26 monster types, one for each letter of the alphabet 21:57:38 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:57:43 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:59:37 -!- Senjai_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:42 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:54 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:07:07 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:43 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:15:39 -!- dg__ has quit [] 22:21:39 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:40 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:21:49 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 22:25:44 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 22:25:48 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:59 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:15 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:47 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:33:12 -!- mint_ is now known as Basil 22:33:29 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:39:43 -!- eb has quit [] 22:41:01 -!- kait_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:42:22 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:45:35 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13.0-7-g3df9ff1 22:46:42 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:51:15 -!- rapierx has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:53:36 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:53:51 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.] 23:01:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:07:55 wretched star (06*) | Spd: 12 (act: 120%) | HD: 10 | HP: 70 | AC/EV: 10/10 | 11non-living, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 843 | Sp: mystic blast (3d15) | Sz: little | Int: normal. 23:07:55 %??Wretched star 23:08:08 needs a buff 23:08:12 more like 15d4 23:09:53 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:09:59 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:17:02 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:18:28 -!- morik has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:18:31 -!- morik_ is now known as Morik 23:18:45 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:21:46 -!- Helmschank has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24:35 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:25:28 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:28:09 -!- Datul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:28:52 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29:06 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:46 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:01 Convokers aren't supposed to continue chanting while engulfed, right? 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