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(mon->target = (9,69)) (Lair:8) 00:53:21 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:54:55 -!- kawatan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55:00 -!- chlorine has quit [Client Quit] 00:58:12 Windows builds of pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13.0-3-g966e3ec 00:59:49 Crash when decapitating a hydra zombie with the Scythe of Curses by ontoclasm 01:02:40 -!- thened has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:03:00 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:06:32 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:21 -!- Helmschank has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:08:56 * xFleury can't remember Pete Hurst's IRC alias. :| 01:10:37 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:12:29 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:35 -!- wya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:31:32 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:32:14 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:32:40 -!- Metagalpa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:34:54 -!- ezbz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:36:40 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 01:37:26 -!- Assbag has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:43:41 So.. for anyone who might be interested in why I wrote http://sourceforge.net/projects/crawl-msvc/ which inspired the "msvc2012" branch that got merged in 0.13... 01:43:46 This was the purposed feature I wanted (now update for 0.13.0): https://github.com/xFleury/crawl-0.13.0-fairplay/commit/9ee353465436669bbfd5811362a45226e67604cb 01:44:08 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:01 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 01:54:06 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 01:55:17 * SamB wonders if nobody told xFleury you could have more than one branch in your own repository ... 01:55:33 (that repository name is unusually specific) 01:56:14 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:57:36 I debated starting a "Fleury's Crawl" repo, and having branches for each version I worked on, but that seemed like long-term planning. 01:59:35 -!- trckry has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:01:30 Anyways... I'd been playing a ton of 0.12 with these changes, and been loving it. Only escaped once with the Orb, despite hundreds of attempts. 02:02:19 Getting to the Orb doesn't feel any easier, and the end-game (as noted) is unchanged. 02:02:36 end-game branches* 02:04:46 When I purposed these changes back in May, the feedback I received suggested I was merely trying to make the game easier. And I can say conclusively that's not the case, at least in my experiences. 02:07:52 -!- ZebTM_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:08:37 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:03 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:08 -!- Velocijacktor has quit [Client Quit] 02:09:10 (I would argue the dev who contributed the "Gargoyle" species had achieved that.. lol) 02:13:31 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:14:17 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 02:20:30 SamB: Do you know off-hand if there was ever any discussions about using Github instead of Gitorious for hosting Crawl? I searched the forums just now, and turned up nothing. 02:20:50 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:22:26 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:27:08 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-240-g07e69d7 (34) 02:29:05 yes there was 02:30:17 someone had a good reason for picking gitorious over github at the time; as for now i'm not sure 02:31:10 -!- Silurio1 has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 02:32:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:33:17 -!- giantbat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:39:48 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:43:18 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:53:11 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:57:05 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:00:05 github had lots of slow-downs and too little repo size per default - at that time 03:00:06 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:02:20 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:18:40 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:22:34 -!- buppy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:23:03 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:40:20 -!- zerc has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:42:11 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 03:42:41 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:43:09 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 03:45:46 -!- indspenc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:06 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:49:01 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:50:08 -!- jeffrom has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:51:08 -!- jeffrom has joined ##crawl-dev 03:54:30 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 03:54:38 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:56:34 -!- sildraith has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:58:29 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:10:55 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:11:22 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 04:15:36 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:17:26 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:17:51 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:18:12 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:18:25 -!- Camicio has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:22:26 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:28:07 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:15 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:38:09 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 04:40:13 -!- CosmicBrownie has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:40:40 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:59 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:44:08 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:44:36 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 04:46:01 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:46:01 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 04:48:52 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:49:34 -!- dsn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:53:50 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:56:01 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 05:11:27 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:12:12 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:14:09 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:21:27 -!- jeffrom has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:21:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:26 -!- blabber_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:25:40 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:36:41 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:39:22 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 05:44:47 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:45:56 -!- ezbz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:48:58 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:48:58 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:55:10 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 05:59:26 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:01:14 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:02:42 -!- Hailley has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:08:23 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 06:12:31 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:13:30 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:13:34 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:25:56 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: Wrong button bad with computers] 06:26:16 -!- lessens has quit [] 06:42:23 -!- Somefellow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:45:33 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 06:45:50 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:47:17 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 06:55:40 -!- dg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:02:38 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:02:57 -!- magicpoints has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:10:34 -!- blabber_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:14:52 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:19:35 |amethyst: did you get my comment yesterday? 07:23:15 . 07:28:40 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 07:33:29 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:41:03 Who runs crawl.lantea.net? 07:41:50 * broquaint reads the blog post 07:42:14 TZer0 07:42:19 Thanks, ogaz. 07:45:27 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:46:45 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 07:59:02 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 07:59:18 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:59:36 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:55 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:03:02 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:09:56 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 08:12:53 * xFleury ponders if there is a way to make compiling on MSVC more intuitive. 08:13:06 -!- dg_ has quit [] 08:17:05 For instance, presently there's quite a few steps to it. First you have to compile contribs, then you have to find and execute gen-all.cmd, and then load up crawl-ref.sln (and unload projects dat and web-server), then compile tilegen, then compile crawl-ref. 08:18:34 In contrast, compiling on Linux just involves some makefile thing. 08:26:42 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:59 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:29:40 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 08:32:11 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 08:36:46 Is it a bug that Gargoyles can warship The Shining One? lol... 08:37:48 Well they aren't demons or undead. 09:00:53 -!- zxc is now known as Guest31808 09:05:00 <|amethyst> hasufell: line 637 in clua.cc ? 09:05:05 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:16 |amethyst: yes 09:05:21 <|amethyst> hasufell: definitely don't want to change it to _state = luaL_newstate() 09:05:41 |amethyst: so why does this error occur then? 09:05:43 <|amethyst> hasufell: if you did that then player Lua (clua) and internal Lua (dlua) would use the same interpreter 09:05:51 <|amethyst> hasufell: what's the error? 09:06:15 "Must use luaL_newstate() for 64 bit target" 09:06:20 |amethyst: I don't think have admin priveleges on CLAN, but on the off chance you do people are complaining that it's down 09:06:24 "Unable to create Lua state." 09:07:01 <|amethyst> ogaz: hm... it looks like just webtiles is down 09:07:08 <|amethyst> ogaz: I don't have access to the machine 09:07:26 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:07:28 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 09:08:08 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:08:11 <|amethyst> !tell TZero Looks like webtiles is stuck. You can restart it, or you can find the pid of the 'python server.py' process, strace -p it to find whose socket it's hanging on, find the corresponding crawl process, and kill that 09:08:13 |amethyst: OK, I'll let tzero know. 09:08:25 <|amethyst> hasufell: hm 09:08:28 it's tzer0 not tzero, right? 09:08:33 <|amethyst> gah 09:08:37 <|amethyst> !tell TZer0 Looks like webtiles is stuck. You can restart it, or you can find the pid of the 'python server.py' process, strace -p it to find whose socket it's hanging on, find the corresponding crawl process, and kill that 09:08:38 |amethyst: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 09:09:21 |amethyst: from the luajit website: "Make sure you use luaL_newstate. Avoid using lua_newstate, since this uses the (slower) default memory allocator from your system (no support for this on x64)." 09:10:18 <|amethyst> hasufell: then it sounds like you can't use Luajit for crawl on 64-bit systems 09:10:28 |amethyst: well, I can, when I change the line... 09:10:36 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:10:59 <|amethyst> hm, I'm a little worried about that 09:11:34 who's got non-64bit system anyway? 09:11:54 <|amethyst> hasufell: I looked at our _clua_allocator... it might not be so bad, but we do track the maximum memory usage for clua 09:12:56 <|amethyst> hasufell: so probably changing that line would be okay (it's a separate Lua state anyway) except you would lose the protection against user Lua eating all your memory 09:13:00 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:13:12 <|amethyst> hasufell: if you're not hosting a server that's probably not a problem 09:13:34 |amethyst: well, I don't like hacking. 09:14:01 I'm just trying to get luajit to work, because some gentoo users prefer it over lua. 09:15:42 <|amethyst> I see... "The x64 port needs to allocate memory in the lowest 2GB" 09:15:56 <|amethyst> which is why it forces its own allocator 09:17:13 maybe the hack is less bad when we do an ifdef for architecture? 09:17:35 or even check if it's luajit 09:17:57 <|amethyst> Or prevent using luajit altogether 09:18:01 :o 09:18:23 <|amethyst> the reason luajit needs memory in the low 2GB is that it uses 32-bit pointers everywhere 09:18:46 <|amethyst> switching from 32 bit to 64 bit *reduces* the amount of memory you can access from ~3GB to 2GB 09:19:07 sounds great 09:20:40 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:21:54 <|amethyst> hasufell: it would have to be conditional on 64-bit + Luajit + not dgamelaunch (because we don't want a server to accidentally compile against luajit and lose the user memory limits enforced by our allocator) 09:22:16 -!- Nivimer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:22:20 <|amethyst> the 2GB thing itself isn't a problem, only the inability to wrap the allocator 09:24:47 |amethyst: that should probably be added to the Makefile as well, so that it disables luajit 64-bit + dgamelaunch 09:25:21 -!- glosham has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:27:21 <|amethyst> Hm... I'd like to get someone who knows Lua better than I do to comment 09:27:35 <|amethyst> maybe there's another way to track and limit memory usage with luajit 09:27:41 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:28:16 <|amethyst> I can definitely understand the built-in allocator being faster; we're not trying to outrun it, just want to stick a hook on it 09:29:39 !messages 09:29:40 (1/1) |amethyst said (21m 2s ago): Looks like webtiles is stuck. You can restart it, or you can find the pid of the 'python server.py' process, strace -p it to find whose socket it's hanging on, find the corresponding crawl process, and kill that 09:30:29 Webtiles server restarted. 09:31:08 -!- Nivimer has joined ##crawl-dev 09:31:53 |amethyst: there are some instances of the game just. stuck 09:32:19 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:29 as he told you, use strace to find the stuck ones and kill them manually 09:33:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:33:29 Webtiles server restarted. 09:33:35 -!- Wolfram has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:34:33 Webtiles server failed to restart. 09:35:10 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:35:46 -!- Guest31808 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:37:19 err.. failed to restart? 09:37:22 Seems like running to me :S 09:38:18 Webtiles server restarted. 09:38:18 Webtiles server failed to restart. 09:38:27 Uhm, it is running though 09:38:29 Well it kind of did restart. :p 09:38:35 and people are playing.. 09:38:37 oh well 09:38:39 brb 09:40:16 I'm still getting a long delay followed by a "Bad request" error page fwiw 09:40:33 <|amethyst> geekosaur: hm, I am not 09:40:40 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:41:03 <|amethyst> geekosaur: just from visiting the lobby, or from trying to watch/play a game? 09:41:17 I'm just going to crawl.lantea.net:8080 ? 09:41:32 <|amethyst> hm 09:41:48 * xFleury can watch games on crawl.lantea.net:8080. 09:41:53 <|amethyst> geekosaur: what browser? 09:41:53 not gonna worry about it if it's working for others 09:41:59 chrome/mac 09:42:10 <|amethyst> hm, so websockets should be enabled 09:42:20 <|amethyst> no clue :( 09:42:48 yes, I've played tiles on this on cao and cszo (admittedly not very recently but I did doublecheck by going into the lobby on cszo) 09:43:23 * xFleury is able to watch games on lantea webtiles on his iPad too. ;D 09:46:54 black draconian zombie (07z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 14 | HP: 99-137 | AC/EV: 7/5 | Dam: 16 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(18), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 382 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 09:46:54 %?black draconian zombie 09:46:59 yellow draconian zombie (07z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 14 | HP: 99-137 | AC/EV: 7/5 | Dam: 16 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(18), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 382 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 09:46:59 %?yellow draconian zombie 09:47:17 why isn't it just draconian zombie? how can the player tell the colors? 09:47:34 yellow draconian skeleton (15z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 14 | HP: 82-114 | AC/EV: 3/3 | Dam: 16 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(18), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 326 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 09:47:34 <|amethyst> %?yellow draconian skeleton 09:47:53 <|amethyst> ogaz: it kind of makes sense for zombies, but maybe not for skeletons :) 09:48:05 fair enough! 09:48:14 not particularly important, anyway :) 09:49:20 they have slightly different skeletal structures 09:49:56 and the player character just happens to be a professional forensic coroner 09:50:25 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: CSI: The Vaults 09:50:28 Translation: because there are no special cases for draconians to have one shared zombie class and we can't be bothered to fix a non-issue 09:50:55 red draconian zombie (07z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 14 | HP: 99-137 | AC/EV: 7/5 | Dam: 16 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(18), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 382 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 09:50:55 <|amethyst> %??red draconian zombie 09:51:08 grey draconian zombie (07z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 14 | HP: 99-137 | AC/EV: 14/5 | Dam: 21, 12 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(18), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 382 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 09:51:08 <|amethyst> %??grey draconian zombie 09:51:14 <|amethyst> there's one reason 09:51:17 * ontoclasm examines a spriggan corpse on D:3, contorted with pain 09:51:21 looks like 09:51:22 <|amethyst> perhaps the only one 09:51:29 he couldn't take the daily Grind 09:51:37 * ontoclasm puts on his sunglasses 09:51:44 <|amethyst> (grey has more AC and damage, even as a zombie) 09:52:41 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: trying to take Grunt's job I see 09:52:44 ontoclasm: *applause* 09:55:57 _Grunter puns. Your body is racked with pain! 09:55:59 :p 09:56:01 So yeah ontoclasm, are https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/Dirt2.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/Dirtgrass.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/Grass.png of any interest? 09:56:38 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:56:52 yeah, they look pretty good 09:56:59 Speaking of tiles, some of the tiles on the MSVC build render a "?" for me. Anyone know Pete Hurst's IRC alias so I can message him about it? 09:57:11 Particularly, the stair-case down in Abyss. 09:57:12 but there's no hurry; it took me like three months to finish the shoals thing 09:57:43 since forest ins't in 0.13 we've got ages to refine it 09:57:48 ...asn't* 09:57:51 oh 09:57:53 .......isn't* 09:57:59 <|amethyst> xFleury: mumra, but he's a little busy with a new job right now 09:58:03 *wracked 09:58:30 <|amethyst> xFleury: you might need to do something to force a rebuild of the tile sheets, but I don't know much about the MSVC build 09:58:31 It's just that I work pretty fast and I tend to be apathetic all the time. 09:58:40 xD 09:58:43 well, me too 09:58:49 those two months were like 09:58:55 2 days of work 09:58:59 4 days of working and the rest spent not caring about it 09:59:01 three months of fuckall 09:59:10 |amethyst: It worked back when I wrote http://sourceforge.net/projects/crawl-msvc/ 09:59:24 <|amethyst> xFleury: mumra might not have seen that 09:59:30 Then mumra worked with me to build "msvc2012" branch, that get merged into 0.13.0. 09:59:32 <|amethyst> xFleury: btw, if you look up a specific commit here, chei will map the email address to a nick 09:59:44 <|amethyst> xFleury: oh, then I guess he has seen it :) 10:01:03 <|amethyst> Maybe I should add a chei command to use the commit history to map dev names to nicks and vice versa 10:01:04 btw, what are the changes I could get a couple devs to give me feedback on some purposed changes of mine xD 10:01:06 https://github.com/xFleury/crawl-0.13.0-fairplay 10:01:14 the chances* 10:01:19 -!- Findor has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:02:14 but yeah on a more concrete topic 10:02:20 ontoclasm: is the dirt fine now 10:02:31 Because if so I'll go ahead and make a bunch of variations. 10:02:41 <|amethyst> xFleury: the change is to spawn monsters once on most floors, and not respawn? 10:03:00 <|amethyst> xFleury: including on the orb run... 10:03:11 <|amethyst> xFleury: (though to be fair I do see your TODO:) 10:03:30 Yah, I think I spoke briefly with you about it back in May. I've been playing it on 0.12 ever since, done over a hundred games. 10:04:14 i'd have to see it tiled 10:04:15 <|amethyst> !lg xFleury / won 10:04:16 No games for xFleury. 10:04:29 <|amethyst> xFleury: how good of a player are you? 10:04:57 respawned monsters seem like a pretty meaningful source of danger 10:05:01 <|amethyst> without having tried it, I worry that prespawning that many monsters would make the first few dungeon levels harder 10:05:16 Most runes I've ever done on web-tiles online is 4, IIRC. 10:05:17 since they generate awake and move around 10:05:30 and can ambush you by spawning behind you 10:05:32 <|amethyst> xFleury: what nick do you play under? 10:05:43 Fleury 10:05:49 <|amethyst> !lg fleury / win 10:05:49 0/2 games for fleury: N=0/2 (0.00%) 10:06:14 -!- zrot has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 10:06:14 anyway, cheers 10:06:17 -!- ontoclasm has left ##crawl-dev 10:10:30 ??Draining 10:10:31 draining[1/3]: 2/3 chance of doing on average 25% extra damage to susceptible monsters, doing 1+1d3 extra damage and removing that much from max HP. If the 2/3 chance is hit, it has a further 20% chance to drop HD by 1. Only affects monsters of normal {holiness} with no rN. Players with rN+/rN++ are still affected (but get drained less and take less damage). 10:12:05 -!- Mixolyde has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:13:19 Here I'm thinking that perhaps draining could be more powerful. 10:14:36 Since unlike flaming/freezing it only works 66% of the time and only on things that aren't rN+ (Unlike the two other brands, which only become less effective). 10:29:03 <|amethyst> Bloaxor: I was under the impression draining was considered a pretty good brand already 10:32:43 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:33:02 It's definitely better than venom most of the time, but it seems like an underdog. 10:33:52 * xFleury found the discussion from back in May ( 08:46:32 @ http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/%23%23crawl-dev-20130522.log ). 10:34:57 Or at least that's part of it. 10:35:41 the main problem with draining is that most of the endgame is immune to it 10:35:51 but before the endgame, it's quite good 10:37:06 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:02 |amethyst: That magic number of "250" is calculated as assuming the user spends 1000 turns on a floor. Since the game ordinarily acts every 5 turns, 1000/5 = 250. 10:38:06 18:25:26 (fwiw, 1000 turns sounds reasonable to me as a time spent per level) 10:38:17 on ( http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/%23%23crawl-dev-20130518.log ) 10:38:24 <|amethyst> xFleury: 200 you mean? 10:38:31 err, yah, lol 10:40:11 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:25 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:41:19 -!- Cryp71c_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:29 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 10:42:12 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:28 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:44:38 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:51:42 -!- flappity has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:55:05 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:55:18 -!- chlorine has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:56:43 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:37 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 10:59:24 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:59:52 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 11:07:31 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:57 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Quit: I cna ytpe 300 wrods pre mniuet!!!] 11:10:13 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:15:01 xFleury: 11:15:01 mumra: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:15:03 \ 11:15:06 oh 11:15:08 lol 11:15:11 hi 11:15:19 !messages 11:15:20 (1/3) |amethyst said (2w 19h 58m 20s ago): any reason not to apply your patch at #2009? I think it needs to be tested with blood potions and with drinking the last of a stack (particular wrt identification) 11:15:34 !messages 11:15:35 (1/2) |amethyst said (2w 19h 56m 25s ago): (In particular, because dec_inv_item_quantity makes the item invalid if this was the last one; but we still use "potion" after the new location of your call to dec_inv_item_quantity) 11:15:36 !messages 11:15:37 (1/1) |amethyst said (1w 5d 23h 21m 41s ago): did you ever have a chance to look at #7297? Some Lua map stuff from infiniplex 11:16:10 Hey mumra! Awesome job with msvc2012, I compiled it last night, and didn't have much difficulty at all. :D 11:16:47 cool :0 11:17:03 there's one bug, sometimes if you use wizmode to port to different levels there is a crash 11:17:50 but otherwise yeah we got everything working pretty good between us ;) 11:18:10 Hmmm, I wonder if that might be related to a tile issue I was noticing; I ran through a couple maps this morning, and some tiles were showing "?". 11:18:25 hmm, i never saw that issue 11:18:39 Particularly, the staircase for going deeper into the Abyss (abyss:1 -> abyss:2 sort of thing), and the staircase leading out of the dungeon, on Dungeon:1. 11:18:58 but then i was doing msys builds as well, i think some of the autogenerated files don't get generated properly with MSVC alone 11:20:44 but yeah as |amethyst says i've been super busy lately, starting a new job in a new city, i've had zero spare time lately and i can't actually remember the last time i compiled crawl ;) 11:21:29 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:22:35 Yah, it's been a while since I compiled it too. I think May was the last time. I only compiled this morning so that I could apply these changes to 0.13.0 so that I wasn't stuck playing my 0.12 build: https://github.com/xFleury/crawl-0.13.0-fairplay 11:23:07 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:23:13 If it gets any attention, I might spend a bit more time with the MSVC build and see if I can't simplify the build process a tad bit. 11:23:28 Or at least write up a "how-to" guide for compiling on MSVC. 11:23:54 We might be the only two people who have ever built the game on MSVC, lol.. 11:24:26 haha 11:25:10 no, one or two other people did, or at least tried to. there's definitely some interest in it, people have asked from time to time 11:26:03 the thing is ... the best way to do it would probably be a VS extension that actually supports make files 11:26:15 which at some point i think i heard exists or is possible 11:27:06 <|amethyst> but then you need msysgit for GNU make 11:27:32 yah, I agree that's probably the best approach. it would mean when a linux user checks in new files, the msvc builds don't immediately break 11:28:02 and having a single build process to maintain is always preferable 11:28:02 <|amethyst> (and all the shell utilities that our makefile calls) 11:28:37 hmm, yeah 11:29:34 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:01 beh, an interesting problem: if you're standing in a wide gateway with an axe, and there are monsters all around except for the wall and the other piece of the door, the game thinks you are trying to close the door and won't allow you to swing to hit everyone :/ 11:30:35 <|amethyst> you could turn off that option 11:30:56 <|amethyst> oh 11:31:12 <|amethyst> I guess that option is just for , not 11:31:59 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:32:07 I wonder if cmake could be the solution to having a single build process. 11:32:30 It's "suppose" to be able to do this sort of thing, but I don't know anyone successfully using it. 11:32:58 xFleury: it was tried, it's support for cross-compilation is so bad it's not really an option 11:33:09 s/it's/its/ 11:36:42 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:05 -!- Froggeryz has quit [] 11:39:21 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:39:57 -!- Senjai has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:27 -!- BlasterBlade has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:19 Hi. I have a crawl opensuse build service rpm repo for Fedora. can anyone post a link on main site? 11:41:26 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:41:31 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:42:17 you can take a look at https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:nazar554/stone_soup 11:43:38 -!- zxc is now known as Guest13517 11:44:40 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:48:32 <|amethyst> BlasterBlade: could you do a writeup similar to the "Packages for Debian-based Operating Systems" section of http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/downloads ? 11:49:00 <|amethyst> BlasterBlade: then I or someone else with editor/admin privs on wordpress can add your text that that page 11:49:14 sure 11:52:26 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:53:33 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:39 -!- chlorine has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:56:58 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:57:03 http://pastebin.com/i81GRamX you can add this section 12:00:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:46 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:30 -!- floatboth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08:58 mumra: Just found another occurance of '?' tile: http://i.imgur.com/TW695DO.jpg 12:09:37 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:10:23 (on an unrelated note, GrFi warshipping TSO is hilarious; I'm a flying angel made of stone and immune to nearly everything) 12:10:53 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:14:01 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-241-gbd576e3 (34) 12:20:30 heh 12:21:33 Can anyone add my fedora repo to main site? download link http://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3Anazar554&package=stone_soup 12:22:56 obs url: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:nazar554/stone_soup 12:24:28 xFleury: I think most of us with commit access don't really care about gitorious' suckage anymore since we don't actually have to touch the UI unless we need to manage our SSH keys? 12:25:28 -!- Silurio1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:33:59 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 12:37:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:38:34 Hm, would be nice with some tile cherrypickings. 12:39:11 <|amethyst> BlasterBlade: how should I credit you? 12:45:16 Speaking of the CREDITS.txt file, anyone else think the alias/nickname would be better suited coming after the last name so that a name search would still succeed? 12:45:33 For example "John Attea" would not match "John 'Poor Yurik' Attea". But it would match John Attea (Poor Yurik). 12:46:14 And I'm thinking things like manuals, rods, the disc and tmonstrosity tiles. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=search;h=409d890d8ec4dd21b7588083441822e3d2eb1ee1;s=ontoclasm;st=author 12:48:32 <|amethyst> BlasterBlade: I'm crediting you as "Nazar Mishturak" for now; let me know if you'd rather use your IRC nick or something else 12:48:46 okay 12:50:26 xFleury: "John.*Attea" 12:50:26 <|amethyst> Added to http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/downloads 12:50:55 Zannick: Doesn't work on Google. :P 12:51:14 ah 12:53:06 btw if you want i can change the package name 12:53:35 <|amethyst> I figured there was a reason you made it 'stone_soup' rather than 'crawl' 12:54:12 <|amethyst> if a 'crawl' package already exists (for Linley's, or something else), stone_soup is fine 12:54:26 Stone soup is a strange name for a game. 12:54:34 i also tried hard to get it in offical repos: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=979738 12:54:39 And rather easily recognizable in addition to being memorable. 12:54:51 can anyone help with license? 12:57:28 <|amethyst> What is the "incorrect license" of which they speak? 12:58:01 <|amethyst> BlasterBlade: oh 12:58:24 <|amethyst> BlasterBlade: you have all the contribs in your source package... I imagine there's no need to do that 12:58:39 nodeps package should fix that? 12:59:53 <|amethyst> yes 13:00:15 <|amethyst> but it might be better to use the git repository instead 13:00:29 <|amethyst> in particular, there's already one patch for 0.13.0 13:00:34 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.13 13:00:34 07kilobyte02 * 0.13.0-3-g966e3ec: Fix wellsprings generating in deep D. 10(19 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=966e3ec7bb18 13:00:39 <|amethyst> three actually 13:00:47 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.13^ 13:00:47 07|amethyst02 * 0.13.0-2-gaa24e9c: Fix a bad Lua string (hasufell) 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa24e9cc7116 13:00:49 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.13^^ 13:00:49 07kilobyte02 * 0.13.0-1-gac08451: Remove Dj and LO from the aptitudes table. 10(29 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac0845171052 13:08:36 -!- Stupendous has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08:54 -!- trckry has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:09:12 i am now rebuilding with crawl-sdl executable name. maybe i will create ncurses package too. 13:11:36 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 13:11:46 -!- calebpearce has quit [Quit: calebpearce] 13:11:57 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:12:41 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 13:17:45 -!- Morg0th has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:19:38 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:19:47 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 13:22:49 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:17 -!- gnsh has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:27:25 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30:39 axing stuff is a giant --More-- fest, mostly due to victim's hp getting printed every line. So I wonder: what if we gave hit messages a tag like [04almost dead]? 13:31:03 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:11 -!- BlasterBlade has left ##crawl-dev 13:31:29 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:52 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:34:31 -!- wya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:36:04 -!- Guest13517 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:36:46 <|amethyst> kilobyte: or add new message channels 13:37:13 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:37:13 <|amethyst> oh, you're talking about debug mode 13:37:41 <|amethyst> oh, I see 13:38:00 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:38:00 <|amethyst> putting the hurt level on the hit messages 13:38:13 <|amethyst> but we don't know how much they're hurt until later 13:38:51 <|amethyst> and delaying the hit messages would make the message order even weirder than it already is 13:39:29 |amethyst: no, normal games 13:39:51 in debug mode you can already toggle debug 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already a dev?? 18:09:41 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:14:46 -!- Quashie_ is now known as Quashie 18:17:26 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:21:01 -!- kawatan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:29:50 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:30:19 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:32:26 -!- CampinSam has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 18:47:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 18:49:20 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:49:53 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:52:28 -!- nonethousand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:52 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 18:53:36 -!- minced has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:53:50 -!- Kaasrol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:54:18 -!- tenofswords has left ##crawl-dev 18:54:21 -!- Schwer-Muta has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:02:16 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:02:48 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:02:54 |amethyst: an idea i have is to set a bool based on cleave at the beginning of melee_attack and check it before pushing the string, if true send it to a cleave_message function to handle the proper message construction. would that work? 19:04:36 looks like there already is a bool is_cleaving 19:05:00 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:48 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:08:36 -!- oneof3steves has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:12:43 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 19:13:55 -!- kawatan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:18:56 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:22:01 <|amethyst> Naruni: the problem is all the other things like damage messages, monster death messages, etc 19:22:31 -!- Kaasrol has quit [] 19:23:51 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:23:58 -!- randomizr is now known as RZX 19:24:33 <|amethyst> you'd need to be able to ask a melee_attack to only go as far as determining whether it hit, doing that for each of the cleave melee attacks, constructing the message, *then* having those attacks complete (handle_phase_hit) 19:24:57 <|amethyst> which, granted, would probably be a lot easier to do now that before Cryp71c's reorg 19:28:08 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 19:28:25 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:28:37 -!- randomizr is now known as RZX 19:30:38 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 19:30:38 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:04 -!- kawatan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:36:52 ah its a lot more complex than i thought 19:37:54 -!- Jebus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:40:11 -!- Froggeryz has quit [] 19:40:15 -!- PunchRockgroin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:42:50 -!- namad8 has quit [] 19:42:59 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:43:11 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:44:24 -!- LogicNinja has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:46:24 -!- myrmidette has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:46:38 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:51:26 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:52:48 I have one thing to say about sticky flame and hell hogs. 19:52:59 And you all know what that is. 19:54:40 hmmm, popcorn bacon 19:55:04 (is that how that works?) 19:55:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:56:54 either way go try wandering the abyss for long enough 20:00:36 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:01:03 -!- namad7 has quit [] 20:03:21 -!- gammafunk_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:10:04 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:14:54 The angel shouts @at_foe@, "Continue thy quest, mortal!" 20:15:45 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:16:05 -!- blabber_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:28 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:18:38 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:20:31 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:52 -!- blabber_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 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think is better endgame strategy as a red draconian: dragon form, shadow creatures, or vehumet with conjurations? 21:08:37 i started as a drie and turned red :( 21:09:34 that's approximately the same thing as asking whether it is better to play a spen or a mibe 21:10:09 as in, a high UC char who melees stuff is totally different from a vehumet conjurer and both are perfectly reasonable builds 21:10:34 shadow creatures is hopefully no longer something you can rely on to do zot all by itself 21:10:48 dang. 21:10:52 after nerfs to it and particular and to summons in general (I haven't tried it since the summon cap) 21:11:02 also, i just found necronomicon 21:11:09 since it really *shouldn't* be that good given it is a single-school level 5 spell 21:11:11 with a book of death for sale 21:11:20 i see your point 21:11:34 damn i wonder how im going to go about winning this game 21:11:48 turning red as a drie sucks 21:12:29 at least monster dracs have a guarantee of no fire/ice job/race clash 21:13:11 drac_colour_incompatible() 21:14:57 !lm Naruni x=race 21:14:57 717. [2013-10-13 00:30:51] [race=Mottled Draconian] Naruni the Conjurer (L10 DrIE) killed Dowan on turn 12811. (D:9) 21:15:05 mottled not red... 21:15:50 kilobyte: that one died :( 21:15:55 !lg . 21:15:55 236. Naruni the Conjurer (L10 DrIE), worshipper of Vehumet, mangled by a polar bear on D:10 (serial_ice_e) on 2013-10-13 00:35:29, with 5726 points after 13158 turns and 1:34:27. 21:17:00 !lm . 21:17:00 717. [2013-10-13 00:30:51] Naruni the Conjurer (L10 DrIE) killed Dowan on turn 12811. (D:9) 21:17:13 strange this one has no milestone yet 21:17:22 !whereis . 21:17:23 No games for .. 21:17:26 !whereis 21:17:27 Naruni the Ruinous (L7 DrIE) is currently on D:4 after 5015 turns. 21:17:33 there i am 21:19:50 I'll tell you what you shouldn't do. 21:19:53 !lg Bloax 21:19:53 296. Bloax the Brawler (L17 GrMo), worshipper of Cheibriados, demolished by an azure jelly on Slime:5 on 2013-10-13 01:12:00, with 197188 points after 12182 turns and 2:13:04. 21:19:57 just checked, all combinations are possible, there's no regard for the job 21:20:06 don't try vow of courage 3 while speeding through everything 21:20:14 take it easy 21:21:20 Bloax: been there, I did not deserve surviving 6 acid blobs 1 azure jelly at 20 hp 21:21:42 Didn't you have some 200 hp? 21:21:45 Maxhp that is. 21:21:46 -!- ketsa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:23:43 http://angband.pl/tmp/slime.txt 21:24:00 404 21:24:37 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:24:40 -!- Camicio has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:25:14 doh, fixed 21:25:33 -!- thug_lessons is now known as lessens 21:27:04 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 21:27:15 Well yeah that's pretty ridiculous. 21:27:32 meanwhile i found out that azure jellies seem sound somewhat overpowered 21:27:41 -seem 21:28:18 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:30:45 when given choice, I do Slime after Pan 21:30:46 -!- KLANG has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:32:07 And I'd say the log you posted there is a casual speedrun if anything. 21:33:18 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:33:39 not exactly a speedrun, merely a bad player 21:34:12 Well I wouldn't really recommend practicing insanity. 21:34:44 Splatting four times as fast with the same runes is not a good idea unless you're into that. 21:35:02 (except this isn't a splatlog ;-;) 21:37:01 you were there at 60% of my time 21:37:32 and less than 1/3 the turns 21:38:21 no rC... it's weird you got even that far 21:43:15 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:19 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:43:33 -!- ketsa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:51:51 !lg * dr won s=god 21:51:51 559 games for * (dr won): 101x Vehumet, 78x Sif Muna, 55x Okawaru, 51x The Shining One, 41x Ashenzari, 34x Makhleb, 27x Trog, 26x Nemelex Xobeh, 23x Lugonu, 22x Kikubaaqudgha, 20x Cheibriados, 17x Xom, 15x Jiyva, 13x Elyvilon, 13x Yredelemnul, 10x Zin, 9x Fedhas, 4x 21:54:36 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:54:36 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:32 -!- Zifmia has quit [] 22:01:56 ??poison magic[3 22:01:57 poison magic[3/3]: The primary gem of the poison school is poison arrow, which is arguably the best single-target damage spell - even against poison-resistant enemies - in the game. 22:02:11 how does poison arrow compare to LCS? 22:02:33 ??lcs 22:02:34 lcs[1/2]: AKA: Lehudib's Crystal Spear or just crystal spear. Level 8 Conjurations/Earth spell, found only in Book of Annihilations and randart Sif gifts. 10d22 at max power, theoretically, and unresistable. The strongest single target conjuration, but its range is one square less than that of Iron Shot. 22:06:00 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:26 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:07:31 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 22:08:13 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:04 -!- Guest62734 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:06 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:18:28 kilobyte: It's amazing how good and yet how terrible that game was. 22:23:21 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:24:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:26:04 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 22:28:07 I don't think this defect http://i.imgur.com/TW695DO.jpg is the result of incorrectly generated files; I think somewhere between 0.12 and 0.13 someone checked in code that doesn't behave as expected on MSVC. 22:30:02 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:09 -!- Helmschank_ is now known as Helmschank 22:33:46 that's super vague, and tiles issues like that are easy to cause when dealing with adding/excluding monsters, which has happened a bit already for 0.13 22:35:50 sorry, lol, what I meant is, it was working fine in 0.12, and in 0.13 that tile still exists in feat.png, and so it should be loading 22:36:25 Furthermore, it's a little random. Sometimes its a staircase, sometimes its a fountain, sometimes its a abyss portal thing. 22:36:25 -!- Guest62734 is now known as SwissStopwatch 22:36:58 ...right, but iirc where the tile is in feat.png depends on the version 22:37:51 and i meant "somewhere between 0.12 and 0.13" is vague :P 22:38:13 of course, adding 1 new image can move the locations of all them, since it's a perl script bin-sorting all the individual files 22:38:14 if the problem doesn't go away when you regenerate the file with the current version, then you can say there's a bug 22:39:39 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:42:31 Do you know off-hand the file responsible for issuing the "?" image? I'm gonna set a breakpoint there, and run it in debug. 22:42:41 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:42:52 With wizmode, I should be able to quickly find another instance of "?" being generated; I usually find it in Abyss. 22:43:07 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:43:48 i know nothing, myself. 22:44:08 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:44:51 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:45:58 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13.0-3-g966e3ec 22:48:28 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 22:50:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:51:24 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:52:28 I think the tile "?" is coded as TILE_DNGN_ERROR. 22:53:01 It's kinda confusing, because there's TILE_ERROR, TILEP_ERROR, TILEG_ERROR, etc. lol 22:53:31 i assume they mean different things 22:53:45 _DNGN is features, i'm pretty sure 22:54:25 I don't know that "features" mean, but I'm presuming it's something to do with layers. For instance, DNGN might be floor, TILEP_ might be items on top of the floor, etc. 22:54:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:55:13 features are floors, walls, stairs, fountains, portals, traps, etc. 23:00:40 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 23:02:35 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:02:37 -!- rapierx has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:04:24 mumra: I tried running MSVC crawl in Debug, but I'm getting an assert error within "read_map(const string &file)" of maps.cc. 23:04:41 what was that about a perl script? 23:07:09 -!- floatboth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:07:47 It looks like the specific assert is _VALIDATE_STREAM_ANSI_SETRET, which "ensure that ANSI file operations(fprintf etc) aren't called on files opened as UNICODE". 23:09:39 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:44 kilobyte: ... 23:11:10 lol, wait, the "yy_fatal_error" function of levcomp.lex.cc is throwing the assert when it tries to report an error, hahhahahah, the irony xD 23:11:47 The actual error it was trying to report is "input in flex scanner failed". 23:13:31 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:16:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:26:16 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:28:02 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:29:03 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 23:29:19 It fails parsing source\dat\des\altar\altar.des in Debug. :S 23:29:45 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:31:37 -!- Guest60572 is now known as UnknownUser_ 23:31:51 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:36:51 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:44:22 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:45:37 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-242-g0d450b6 (34) 23:47:33 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:48:00 -!- Taraiph has joined ##crawl-dev 23:52:59 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:54:55 -!- rebthor has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 23:55:28 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 18.0.2/20130201065344]] 23:55:32 -!- Metagalpa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:57:19 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed]