00:00:06 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:01:31 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-119-g4e89e70 (34) 00:01:57 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 00:05:51 -!- Aponym has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:12:59 -!- Senjai_ is now known as Senjai 00:22:12 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:58 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:27:37 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-120-g74a29d4: Simplify player's copy constructor. 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=74a29d44f335 00:29:06 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:34:42 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:36:31 <|amethyst> hm, unmarshallString can leak its buffer if unmarshallCString throws a short read exception 00:36:33 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:36:58 -!- brainwrinkle has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:37:31 <|amethyst> the only way that would really be an issue is in the save browser if you had a bunch of truncated saves 00:37:54 <|amethyst> so I guess it's not really worth bothering with 00:38:20 where would you get a bunch of saves that were so severely truncated? 00:38:48 -!- Spectrina has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:40:42 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:40:45 -!- SonOfOctotrog has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:40:47 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:41 <|amethyst> I dunno; I think I only have one 00:41:49 <|amethyst> no, two 00:41:54 <|amethyst> definitely lost: 2,000 bytes in 2 blocks 00:44:29 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:51 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13-b1-24-g18a6e78 00:59:17 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:03:14 -!- tali713 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:04:46 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:05:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:07:42 -!- tali713 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:11:29 <|amethyst> It would be trivial to fix with a unique_ptr, but I don't know whether all the compilers we need to support have that (particularly, old gcc) 01:11:50 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:11:57 <|amethyst> or with a vector but that seems like overkill 01:12:30 <|amethyst> (in particular, the array specialisation of unique_ptr) 01:14:43 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 01:17:39 -!- Pepe has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:18:15 that's not called unique_array ? 01:22:11 <|amethyst> no, it's unique_ptr 01:22:39 <|amethyst> though apparently there is quite some debate about "which is better" for scoped arrays, that or just a vector 01:23:24 <|amethyst> boost has scoped_array of course 01:23:30 yes I was just going to say 01:24:11 -!- SonOfOctotrog has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:24:11 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:25:24 -!- |amethys1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:25:32 -!- |amethyst has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:25:40 -!- |amethys1 is now known as |amethyst 01:26:19 <|amethyst> this time cszo is down at the ISP not at the backbone 01:27:29 <|amethyst> but it's late so I'm going to bed 01:27:38 <|amethyst> probably it will be back up shortly anyway 01:28:36 -!- Sizzell has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:32:03 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:38:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:48:00 -!- |amethys1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:51 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:55 |amethyst: you were right! 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(Armour arts can have it via brand.) 06:58:35 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 07:01:01 yeah, i think it'd be fine just as the brand too 07:01:46 <|amethyst> I think the idea was so that spriggans etc had a way to get it 07:02:30 <|amethyst> which could be solved by putting it on non-boots (which might not be very flavourful, but probably isn't worse than an artefact property in that respect) 07:02:50 i don't think that's a problem at all, lots of species have armour restrictions that stop them from being able to use certain egos 07:03:13 poor spriggans, no running for them! 07:04:37 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:05:07 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:05:44 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:10:04 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:18:00 -!- scummos^ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:18:02 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:18:44 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-130-g2dca142: Include the font in Mac bundles (frogor) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2dca142417c7 07:18:44 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 07:19:13 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:13 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 07:19:15 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! 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The evocable ability has an MP cost, and both abilities have a hunger cost and set exhaustion." 08:49:13 Can anyone help with !learn syntax? 08:49:36 hm? 08:49:41 what do you want to know? 08:50:01 Well, someone got it in for me 08:50:10 but it wasn't accepting my attempts 08:50:12 ok 08:51:02 you have control codes sprinkled into that line 08:51:11 yeah, seems so 08:54:52 -!- Silentsigil has quit [Client Quit] 08:59:07 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:22 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 09:02:01 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:02:38 -!- SonOfOctotrog has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04:41 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:07:41 -!- codename-rinzler has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:10:38 various errors in tar_grunt by KiloByte 09:16:19 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:13 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:22:51 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:22:59 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:24:42 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:59 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:26:51 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:26:51 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:51 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:28:54 what is the "dcss-dwants" gametype? 09:28:57 -!- Wensley_ is now known as Wensley 09:29:18 it's messing up the player status page :P 09:29:19 Wensley: You have 1 message. 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[2013-09-28 00:00:11] ZureaL the Grappler (L11 GrMo) became the Champion of Makhleb on turn 11436. (D:12) 10:12:47 UrQuan (L10 LOGl) ASSERT(f.mons.alive()) in 'tags.cc' at line 1636 failed. (D:10) 10:13:51 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 10:14:22 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:15:14 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:10 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:27 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:23:22 -!- axujen has quit [Quit: Gotta Go Fast] 10:25:34 |amethyst: that would be easy if I had initially done this gametype normalization in a principled way, rather than resorting to an ever-greater tangle of regexes 10:25:40 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:54 I might just rewrite it 10:26:03 I'm basically ashamed of that file 10:33:58 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-136-gf6fb48e: Place tar_grunt's soul eaters and shadow imps after subvaults (#7598). 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6fb48e07a71 10:34:00 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:34:00 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:34:41 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:21 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39:36 <|amethyst> I marked #7589 (patch to display lots of numbers) as won't fix, but maybe some of it should be dprfs 10:40:12 <|amethyst> Also, as ion_frigate pointed out in the comments, displaying monster class base AC and EV in xv wouldn't be too terrible 10:40:44 isn't all that stuff shown in debug mode? 10:40:47 more completely, even 10:41:15 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:41:19 It is, IIRC. 10:41:28 <|amethyst> most of it is, perhaps something isn't 10:41:29 Certainly I get enough spam with those numbers in debug mode already <_< 10:42:07 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:42:29 <|amethyst> (but not all of it should be; roll_dice for example) 10:42:57 a good part of debug mode messages can be toggled, too 10:44:10 <|amethyst> how do I do that, btw? 10:44:15 as for base AC/EV in xv, if we heed dpeg's dislike for exact numbers, giving them as descriptive names for ranges is good enough 10:44:21 monster ac/ev isn't really directly comparable to player ac/ev either, displaying that seems potentially misleading 10:44:30 typically it's a matter of "can I inacc this monster?" 10:44:38 since 30 is about as high as it gets for monsters 10:44:40 MarvinPA: yeah 10:45:00 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: oh, because the "did it hit" formulae are different? 10:45:14 <|amethyst> for monsters and players 10:45:24 AC in turn matters for sandblast and LRD, and again it's only a matter of small/big values 10:45:34 well i just meant tha "huge ac" on a monster is like, 20 10:45:43 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:45:44 compared to 50 or more on a player 10:45:46 that* 10:46:25 <|amethyst> HD was also mentioned 10:46:46 <|amethyst> again, doesn't have to be a number, but some way of telling "how likely is meph to work" 10:47:10 I'd say the most noticeable effect of HD is spell damage 10:47:10 <|amethyst> I guess we don't display monster MR ranges either, though 10:47:38 MR ranges are already displayed 10:48:17 <|amethyst> oh 10:48:24 <|amethyst> I was looking at a rat 10:48:36 <|amethyst> I guess there is no message if the MR is too small 10:50:19 <|amethyst> I really need to look into the scoring daemon sometime 10:50:24 <|amethyst> 2013-10-03 05:38:28,229 [INFO] Processed 3000 lines. 10:50:29 <|amethyst> 2013-10-03 08:38:25,364 [INFO] Processed 42000 lines. 10:51:10 <|amethyst> surely we can do that a bit faster than 3 lines a second 10:51:50 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:54:34 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:00 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 11:01:58 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:56 -!- chlorine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:04:28 Skills/Spells autotargeting beyond maximum range in trunk by magicpoints 11:08:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:08:27 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:09:41 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:56 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12:13 -!- axujen has quit [Quit: Gotta Go Fast] 11:12:29 -!- Guest40 has quit [Client Quit] 11:14:30 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:19:15 -!- axujen has quit [Client Quit] 11:20:18 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:34 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:31:06 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:31:13 Grunt: would you know how to solve monsters in wall in layout_vaults_chaotic_city as well? 11:32:11 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:33:08 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:29 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 11:34:35 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34:36 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:34:56 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:18 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:41:57 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Client Quit] 11:42:49 in mapstat tests, I keep getting three errors: disconnected maps (which strongly look like what Zaba once diagnosed as a result of vaults being opaque by default), shop type -1, layout_vaults_chaotic_city 11:43:31 correction: just got it with layout_vaults_omnigrid 11:43:50 I wish I could help, but I'm afraid I forgot most of that stuff :/ 11:45:21 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:45:51 <|amethyst> !tell gammafunk re #7599 (about find_default_monster_target), there are two issues: 1. you removed a can_affect_outside_range() check, so non-explosion things would try the _find_monster_expl wrapper 11:45:52 |amethyst: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:46:29 -!- rapierx has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:46:47 <|amethyst> !tell gammafunk 2. In _find_monster's "Don't target out of range" check, you added "hitfunc &&", but that means that other beams without a targetter (e.g. breathe flames) don't check range 11:46:48 |amethyst: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:46:51 if I remember correctly, most vaults can be converted outright, only exceptions being flamethrowers, teleporters and stuff that opens via lua, IIRC 11:48:21 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:49:00 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:50:18 -!- MDesigner has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:50:47 layout_vaults_big_room too 11:51:02 all layout_vaults_*, it seems 11:51:18 I mean, what kind of disconnected maps are caused by vaults being opaque? 11:51:40 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-137-gd4ba563: Don't try out-of-range targetting if it won't work. 10(43 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4ba563f5edf 11:51:42 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Client Quit] 11:51:56 <|amethyst> !tell gammafunk I think my fix (0.14-a0-137-gd4ba563) is right, but you might want to check whether jump attack still behaves correctly 11:51:58 |amethyst: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:52:13 <|amethyst> !tell gammafunk (Note that evo no longer pumps range on the boots) 11:52:14 |amethyst: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:53:08 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:54:12 <|amethyst> Napkin: any chance of getting a new "product branch" option in mantis for 0.13? 11:54:26 sure 11:55:25 there is a "0.13 development branch" 11:55:26 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:55:30 is that not good? 11:55:44 you want it called "pre-release branch" and have 0.14 added? 11:56:03 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:33 <|amethyst> Hm 11:56:36 one case: http://sprunge.us/HIeX -- I don't like those stairs, but I see nothing wrong with connectivity 11:56:57 <|amethyst> Napkin: hm 11:57:05 wait, i'll do it as always 11:57:43 <|amethyst> Napkin: "as always" is add a new one for 0.13, rename trunk to 0.14, and rename long-term to 0.15? 11:57:57 almost, yes 11:58:15 which one is the branch that gets commits at the moment? 11:58:20 <|amethyst> people have been filing bugs under "long-term" since it says 0.14, but those can be correted 11:58:38 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:58:39 <|amethyst> Napkin: 0.14 is current trunk and gets new commits 11:58:44 master and then stuff is cherry-picked to 0.13? 11:58:48 <|amethyst> Napkin: yeah 11:59:17 default_fixed_in_version set to 0.14 development branch then 11:59:35 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:37 @corrected: yes, that's always a todo on release 11:59:45 <|amethyst> Napkin: Maybe "longterm" should have the version number removed 11:59:52 why? 11:59:56 wouldn't change anything 12:00:11 <|amethyst> I guess that's true 12:00:16 just an orientation 12:00:20 <|amethyst> we'd just have to move things in the other directly 12:00:23 <|amethyst> direction 12:00:51 but someone should go the issues/patches assigned to "longterm development" and either leave them there or assign to 0.14 12:01:36 i have renamed "longterm development (0.14+)" to "longterm development (0.15+)" 12:01:39 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:02:31 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:02 if it would be more convenient, i could add multiple "longterm development" versions 12:03:23 but not sure the roadmap is really that strict 12:03:32 <|amethyst> I don't think that would help, since when we do use it, it's usually just to say "not yet" 12:03:34 always had the feeling it isn't 12:03:46 agreed 12:04:22 until when do i need to have 0.13 installed on CDO again? 12:04:37 it's currently still serving master branch only 12:04:52 <|amethyst> okay, I changed the recently-opened bugs (as opposed to FRs) marked as "longterm" to 0.14 12:04:53 11 oct 12:05:10 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:05:23 -!- Guest40 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:05:29 Napkin: does officially releasing the branch require a manual action from you? 12:05:33 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:47 <|amethyst> depending on greensnark's schedule (for updating sequell) you might want to have it a little earlier 12:06:05 it will make things like determining the correct directory for morgues easier 12:07:14 everything not marked as stable is in master/trunk 12:07:21 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:29 everything marked as stable is in it's own directory/logfile 12:07:41 <|amethyst> Napkin: on CSZO and CAO I have 0.13 marked as "stable" already 12:07:50 <|amethyst> it says "beta" in the menu, but that's just the menu 12:08:09 makes it difficult for the bots, no? 12:08:13 1s, busy here 12:08:19 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:08:27 <|amethyst> no, the bots go by the version number reported in the milestone/logfile 12:08:46 <|amethyst> !lg * cszo start>2013-10-01 x=v 12:08:47 2323. [v=0.13.0-b1] Zermako the Slasher (L2 TeBe), worshipper of Trog, slain by a gnoll (a +0,+2 spear) on D:1 on 2013-10-03 17:06:35, with 82 points after 542 turns and 0:00:42. 12:08:51 <|amethyst> !lg * cszo start>2013-10-01 s=v 12:08:51 2323 games for * (cszo start>2013-10-01): 1497x 0.14.0-a0, 751x 0.13.0-b1, 66x 0.12.3, 7x 0.11.3, 2x 0.10.3 12:09:43 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:46 <|amethyst> or do you mean finding the morgues? 12:10:17 yes 12:10:20 <|amethyst> I don't sort morgues by version (but milestones/logfiles are, so the bots do have to be updated for those) 12:10:51 i do, otherwise listing the directory content in apache uses a hillarious amount of cpu 12:11:06 <|amethyst> yeah, I can see that :) 12:11:28 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:11:30 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:35 i wrote a shell script to output "ls -U" 12:11:36 <|amethyst> not sure how the bots deal with that 12:11:39 (or similar) 12:11:52 <|amethyst> ack, it's later than I thought 12:11:53 that speed up directory content from 60s to 3s 12:12:06 <|amethyst> have to go, thanks again 12:12:11 cheers! 12:12:38 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:13:45 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:14:15 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:14:32 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:42 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:31 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 12:17:07 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:17:35 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:41 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:18:06 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:20:21 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:20:31 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:37 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13-b1-25-ge8c739f 12:20:54 -!- tkappleton1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:21:06 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:21:16 -!- Stelpa 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stone_soup-0.13 14:27:57 %git stone_soup-0.13 14:27:57 07Grunt02 * 0.13-b1-26-ga3127b5: Place tar_grunt's soul eaters and shadow imps after subvaults (#7598). 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 16+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3127b5bd7fc 14:28:50 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:29:00 well, having references look the same as local variables wasn't the brightest idea in C++ 14:29:02 * SamB doesn't follow this really ... 14:29:31 SamB: the bug, the fix, or the presence in 0.13? 14:29:32 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:57 the first two 14:30:30 SamB: the vault in question used to try to place monsters on an empty space before it placed subvaults; it would block most of the subvault placements (and the one that could place properly without it caused monsters to appear in walls). 14:30:31 kilobyte: also I was referring to the order of the space and the ampersand 14:30:44 SamB: so now the monsters place as subvaults after everything else; not especially elegant, but it gets the job done. 14:31:03 -!- Kaydis has quit [] 14:31:07 * SamB supposes he should have gone to read the bug ;-) 14:32:05 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.] 14:32:06 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:32:28 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:03 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:35:33 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:39 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:35:46 so which vault placed a monster in a wall, the one that placed the monster or the one that placed the wall? 14:35:54 The latter. 14:38:09 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:38:26 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:32 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:38:40 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:40:31 how dumb would it be to have crawl's crash handler attempt to have gdb print a stack trace? 14:41:26 -!- 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https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9479 15:29:48 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:30:13 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:31:13 -!- BlackSheep_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:31:38 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 15:33:02 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:33:12 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:51 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:35:52 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:36:10 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:01 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:39:07 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:39:13 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:25 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-138-g9fbd006: Unbreak Windows. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9fbd006062c2 15:40:10 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:20 -!- oph_work has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:40:21 kilobyte: that's pretty ambitious for something fundamentally broken :b 15:40:36 heh, yeah 15:40:46 -!- Bcadren has quit [Quit: I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure.] 15:41:02 what OS these days isn't fundamentally broken though? 15:41:08 it's just a matter of degrees 15:41:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:41 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:41:58 -!- chewymouse has quit [Client Quit] 15:42:07 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:42:15 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:43:14 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 15:44:10 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 15:44:58 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:45:11 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:26 Okay, I should put this semi-serious side project somewhere before I lose track of the code completely. 15:47:11 <|amethyst> elliptic: so, re dropping the special rarebook handling 15:47:21 New branch created: lomnado (1 commit) 15:47:21 03Grunt02 07[lomnado] * 0.14-a0-139-g948391f: Tornado as a monster spell for the sole use of Lom Lobon. 10(3 minutes ago, 6 files, 106+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=948391fda90b 15:47:23 Message on wielding pain weapon contradicts torment immunity description by Skrybe 15:47:23 <|amethyst> elliptic: or, the special handling of rarebook spells 15:47:48 <|amethyst> elliptic: should those spells' weights be lower than would be suggested by the frequency of the randbook? 15:47:54 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:48:14 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 15:48:15 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:48:58 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49:55 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:51:00 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:51:10 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:54:02 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:54:11 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:04 <|amethyst> hm... our lua error messages are unfortunately short 15:55:41 <|amethyst> looking at 7595, and all that message tells me is that dgn.point_in_radius had a problem 15:55:50 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:56:04 <|amethyst> I guess it would be kind of annoying to dump a whole stacktrace to the console 15:56:34 <|amethyst> but without a backtrace that report is not much to go on 15:56:39 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-139-g298c0bf: Disallow branch exit mimics. 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=298c0bfce864 15:56:39 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-140-gba8f219: A new build flag: COLOURED_DUMPS. 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 43+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba8f2199795f 15:56:53 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:57:11 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:27 <|amethyst> kilobyte: hm 15:57:49 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:58:06 <|amethyst> kilobyte: is 1978db2 still needed with your fix 15:58:19 <|amethyst> %git 1978db2 15:58:20 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-a0-1511-g1978db2: Don't make sole branch exits into mimics. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1978db2d8761 15:58:36 "sole" branch exits? 15:58:43 fr lom's version of tornado is actually called lomnado 15:58:55 does this commit predate there being just one exit? 15:59:09 <|amethyst> kilobyte: it was shortly after 15:59:18 <|amethyst> kilobyte: the "sole" is descriptive, not restrictive 15:59:36 <|amethyst> kilobyte: read as "Don't make branch exits into mimics now that there's just one" 16:00:15 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:22 ah 16:00:32 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:00:34 probably not, you're right 16:00:42 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:00:54 <|amethyst> kilobyte: it was a hack, as alluded to in the last line of the commit message 16:00:56 let me try it, I'm running tons of mapstats anyway 16:01:27 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 16:02:19 -!- RexRuthor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:02:59 -!- codename-rinzler has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:11 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:23 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:05:02 we don't support any compilers where field layout is based public/private/protected do we? 16:05:08 +on 16:05:18 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:06:11 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:06:37 <|amethyst> we only support three afaik 16:06:42 <|amethyst> why do you ask, though? 16:06:53 <|amethyst> we don't care about our ABI do we? 16:07:16 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 16:07:53 I don't think there's a single place such ordering matters 16:08:13 -!- HenryClay has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:08:38 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:09:03 I think the only case where a struct's layout matters at all is one or two places in low-level save handling, and the alignment there is dirt simple 16:09:11 -!- 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Is there a setup guide available for developers? Something that includes things like which repos to clone, which dependencies are required, how to build, things like that? 16:10:59 codename-rinzler: yes 16:11:09 dev wiki's in the /topic, fwiw 16:11:10 in docs/develop are a lot of guides 16:11:28 docs/develop/git specifically explains how to pull the repository 16:11:52 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:12:07 INSTALL.txt has the build instructions iirc 16:12:12 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:27 -!- Guest40 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:12:33 but it's pretty much "get the source, install submodules, type make" 16:12:38 |amethyst: oh I was thinking of doing some stuff like temporarily marking most of "you" inaccessible at some points 16:12:59 -!- BasementCat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:13:25 ok great. I'll check it out. Thanks 16:13:29 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-141-gaed4eea: Fix a crash when a red devil pokes a porcupine of ball lightning. 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aed4eeaf4d8e 16:13:33 no problem 16:14:02 so, I want to make an RAII template to temporarily mark something inaccessible (so valgrind will report an error if something tries to access it); what should I call it? 16:14:18 SamB: I'd say, let's split "you", and then you'd block one part but not the other 16:14:58 -!- ChickenWing has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:15:07 <|amethyst> kilobyte: hm, on CDO, how does /devel/index.html get updated when there are new Windows builds? 16:15:12 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:15:15 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 16:15:20 any idea for the name? 16:15:41 <|amethyst> kilobyte: because we have Windows builds up to 0.14-a0-102 but the page isn't updating 16:16:12 IIRC the page failing to update happened when we branched 0.12, too. 16:16:41 <|amethyst> yeah, I suspect there's some script that needs to be updated, but I have no idea which 16:17:32 <|amethyst> I see, update-trunk-indices.py 16:17:50 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:18:11 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:13 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:18:28 we obviously need "@branch" entries in crontab 16:18:44 crontab needs to branch out a bit? 16:19:40 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:20:12 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 16:21:13 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:42 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:22:15 -!- variouselite has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:22:27 <|amethyst> kilobyte: If I made a change to update-trunk-indices.py should I be committing that? Pushing it somewhere? 16:22:59 <|amethyst> it will need to be built again when we get an OSX trunk build 16:23:04 <|amethyst> s/built/updated/ 16:23:07 I never used nor touched that 16:23:21 <|amethyst> also, I have some 0.13-b1 builds from frogor 16:23:40 <|amethyst> should I put those under OS X trunk even though they're really not? 16:23:46 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:24:06 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:15 -!- codename-rinzler has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:25:13 <|amethyst> Napkin: made a change to bin/update-trunk-indices.py but it will need to be updated again when we have OS X and android 0.14 builds 16:25:35 <|amethyst> Napkin: I wasn't sure though whether I should be committing it there or what 16:25:55 sure, why not 16:27:06 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:27:12 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:06 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:30:13 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:15 <|amethyst> I guess I'll leave the current Mac OSX build in place, since 0.13-b1 does drop some features 16:33:08 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:33:12 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 16:34:36 hmm, does "#define ZZS_SIZE ((sizeof(T)+7)/8)" look like an okay way to calculate how many bytes are needed to get sizeof(T) bits of storage? 16:35:55 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:36:12 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 16:37:11 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:39:05 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:22 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:42:07 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:09 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 251 seconds] 16:43:44 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:18 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:27 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:48:06 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:11 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:48:19 <|amethyst> where do we keep/generate trunk tarballs 16:48:21 <|amethyst> ? 16:50:46 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:50:49 <|amethyst> nm, found the link on my own gitweb 16:51:04 <|amethyst> did gitorious stop offering them? 16:51:05 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:51:09 <|amethyst> ISTR that it once did 16:51:13 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 16:53:26 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:53:44 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:54:09 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:48 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:57:07 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:55 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:00:14 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 17:03:07 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:03:47 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 17:04:33 -!- Mikeh_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:04:54 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:05:48 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 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17:23:29 New branch created: randbook-rare-spells (1 commit) 17:23:29 03|amethyst02 07[randbook-rare-spells] * 0.14-a0-142-gd4d58b4: Don't discriminate against rare-book spells in randbooks. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 47-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4d58b4e9ac1 17:24:06 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:24:10 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:26:40 <|amethyst> !tell elliptic looks like the "spell_rarity" doesn't actually weight the choice at all; it's only used to skip the spell entirely and to determine randbook prices 17:26:41 |amethyst: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 17:26:49 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:27:13 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:20 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27:25 <|amethyst> !tell elliptic but I hesitate to change that, because it would make randbooks more likely to overlap with your existing books 17:27:26 |amethyst: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 17:28:33 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:47 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:30:13 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:40 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:32:38 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:32:39 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:33:10 Bloaxor: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/tentaclebroseph.png 17:33:11 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:28 i tried making some of the tentacles thicker 17:36:13 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:15 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:38:36 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:39:02 -!- Camicio has quit [] 17:39:10 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:23 ontoclasm: it looks like a Cthulhu head, sort of <_< 17:39:34 yeah 17:39:42 i'm still not sure on the eyes 17:39:48 Much better than what we have now, though!! 17:40:00 i told bloax that maybe it should have a bunch of 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03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-143-g33dbfe7: Deal with some less+libvte weirdness. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=33dbfe7a30d9 19:12:06 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:15:12 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:57 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:03 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:39 -!- sponge has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:20:14 kilobyte: I used the -j PCH=y and -O0 options and was able to get dramatically better compilation times 19:20:21 Should have been using those since a long time ago 19:20:55 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:24:23 -!- Ur-Quan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:29:03 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:06 -O0 means a drastically reduced speed of produced executables, though 19:31:23 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:31:48 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:31:50 does crawl use μ for anything 19:32:27 -!- Bodrick has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:34:56 kilobyte: i vaguely recall that some features and programs wouldn't actually run when build with -O0 but I don't remember which ones 19:35:16 kilobyte: Ah, I had noticed that fsim seemed very slow 19:35:26 s/build/built/ 19:35:39 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:36:05 also, I modified only target.cc yet it's recompiling a bunch of other objects 19:39:49 pi31415: that would be pretty weird. In fact, due to reduced debuggability on higher optimization levels and compiler bugs, -O0 is most likely to work. 19:39:56 Vault led_sif_book needs an escape hatch by magicpoints 19:42:48 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:50:40 -!- Suga_H has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:53:53 -!- Xenobreeder_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:56:27 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:57:06 kilobyte: pretty sure I've heard of such problems in, say, Emacs 20:03:02 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I've heard of things depending on inlining actually inlining 20:03:12 <|amethyst> kilobyte: probably with old old gcc 20:03:31 yes, precisely the nature of the issue I was thinking of 20:03:55 only in this case the routines in question weren't actually marked for inlining ... 20:07:06 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:13:01 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 20:17:27 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:17:28 -!- Rebenga has quit [Quit: Goodbye, World] 20:21:18 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:24:15 |amethyst: The fixes to directn.cc look good. I've updated mantis 0007188 with a patch containing 4 commits 20:25:26 |amethyst: Two are cleanups, one makes the landing sites not have a range check, which helps with the problem of closer jump-attack positions being worse since there are more landing possibilities 20:25:50 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:26:02 The other makes the stab class nerf just +1 for all cases, to avoid making the last two stab tiers equal under jump-attack 20:29:31 -!- Nilsyn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:33:30 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:34:06 <|amethyst> gammafunk: looks good; I do have one question though, about targetter_jump::valid_aim 20:34:31 <|amethyst> in the last branch, you check no_landing_reason for several values 20:35:55 <|amethyst> but what if it's BLOCKED_OCCUPIED or BLOCKED_NONE ? 20:36:12 if blocked_none, has_additional_sites will be true 20:36:21 hrm, let me see about occupied 20:40:36 -!- Rebthor has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 20:42:01 |amethyst: Yeah, it looks like that case falls through, but it's caught in directn.cc with a more generic message 20:42:04 -!- myrmidette has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:42:15 <|amethyst> which message? 20:42:27 mpr("There is no safe place to jump near there."); 20:42:43 because directn.cc has a check for has_additional_sites 20:42:56 <|amethyst> hm 20:43:06 <|amethyst> I'll just have it use the same message as BLOCKED_MOVE for now 20:43:07 But that should be caught in targetter_jump 20:43:20 <|amethyst> since being occupied means it's "no safe place" 20:43:26 Yeah that works 20:43:37 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:43:42 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:46 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 20:44:58 because it's not even a place 20:45:19 or, at any rate, not one to jump 20:46:35 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:48 You cannot jump, so you ponder the meaning of time and space... 20:50:05 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:50:45 -!- dead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:50:46 <|amethyst> about to push this, but in my testing I spotted another problem 20:50:56 <|amethyst> you can jump through grates 20:51:02 <|amethyst> over statues I can kind of understand 20:51:38 aha 20:52:04 |amethyst: you can't jump through grates irl? 20:52:19 You emerge as a pile of noodles! 20:52:19 <|amethyst> depends on how wide they are 20:52:39 doesn't the opacity function 20:52:42 handle that? 20:52:57 maybe you gave the wrong parameter? 20:53:27 else if (!find_ray(agent->pos(), a, ray, opc_no_trans)) 20:53:33 is what I do 20:53:47 I'd assume that would fail for a grate in the way 20:54:02 <|amethyst> no, you can shoot through grates 20:54:08 <|amethyst> opc_solid_see is what you want I think 20:54:11 <|amethyst> I'll fix that 20:54:48 <|amethyst> also, are both cell_see_cell and find_ray needed? 20:55:30 Is it an optimization? 20:55:40 it's taken from another targetter iirc 20:56:08 <|amethyst> hm, possibly, or possibly there's a corner case I'm not considering 20:57:15 well it seems that targetter_jump is the only targetter directly using find_ray 20:59:32 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:07 The logic of what valid_aim has to accept and what set_aim has to accept is confusing 21:00:57 targetter_beam::valid_aim only does cell_see_cell and range checks 21:01:16 and does its own ray check (using a beam struct) in set_aim 21:01:32 sorry, using a bolt struct (called beam) 21:01:49 yes that is a confusing habbit ... 21:02:52 oh, it seems that beam will allow you to fire at a grate if your target is on the other side 21:04:24 oh, I see, the check in targetter_beam::valid_aim actually does look for obstructions 21:05:44 Well we may still need find_ray for targetter_jump::valid_aim since we need grates to block 21:05:54 not sure if cell_see_cell can return false for that 21:06:20 03gammafunk02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-144-g1b3843c: Remove an unecessary range modification when finding jump attack targets. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b3843c87926 21:06:20 03gammafunk02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-145-gd861f57: Make the jump landing sites not have a range restriction. 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 1+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d861f57d61d0 21:06:20 03gammafunk02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-146-gdfda80f: Give a proper message when you attempt to target yourself with jump-attack. 10(86 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dfda80f5636e 21:06:20 03gammafunk02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-147-gbdb8dd0: Make the jump-attack stab nerf constant across categories. 10(64 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bdb8dd0d344e 21:06:20 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-148-g427093f: Simplify and fix formatting. 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=427093f47f77 21:06:20 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-149-g8630c34: Handle two missing no_landing_reasons. 10(20 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8630c3414585 21:06:20 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-150-g07cbc55: Don't allow jumping through grates or over statues. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=07cbc55c1934 21:06:20 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-151-gd5000a5: Improve a comment. 10(76 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5000a54ecc5 21:06:46 <|amethyst> gammafunk: you can give LOS_SOLID_SEE to cell_see_cell; but again I'm not completely sure that and find_ray do the same thing 21:07:28 |amethyst: It may be faster, so I'll look at that 21:08:38 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-152-g5737bc6: Avoid a pointless message variation. 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5737bc639df6 21:09:31 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:20 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:30 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I didn't change the LOS_NO_TRANS to LOS_SOLID_SEE because of the ray check below 21:11:12 <|amethyst> gammafunk: but if you do remove the ray check in favour of the cell_see_cell check, make sure you change LOS_NO_TRANS 21:11:25 |amethyst: Ok, will keep that in mind 21:12:01 <|amethyst> I'm going to go ahead and close #7188 21:12:27 <|amethyst> at this point any bugs in it deserve their own numbers :) 21:13:38 Yes 21:14:56 <|amethyst> BTW, I think we don't have you in CREDITS.txt yet 21:15:15 You can add me as gammafunk 21:15:28 no actual name? 21:15:30 <|amethyst> you people with your pseudonyms :) 21:15:40 SamB: No, I don't have one 21:15:54 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:17:11 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:17:13 grr I accidentally ignored gammafunk how do I make it stop ... 21:17:37 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-153-g1093537: Add gammafunk to CREDITS.txt. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=10935379c93b 21:17:38 <|amethyst> /unignore ? 21:18:39 SamB: You did what you had to do... 21:18:46 that MIGHT have worked ... 21:19:14 hmm, apparantly I had to specify the whole mask 21:19:28 testing 1 2 21:19:36 yeah it worked now 21:19:59 anyway, I was about to say: so your name isn't Christopher Eisley ? 21:21:51 Well, yes, but actually how did that come out? Was it in a patch? 21:21:55 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:08 /whois 21:22:28 hrm, must be setting it in irc? 21:22:52 or you could be running an identd 21:23:11 Well thanks for mentioning that 21:23:23 now the NSA knows! 21:23:34 I am the NSA! 21:23:37 <|amethyst> now everyone knows, since channel logs are publicly available 21:23:52 I'll never forgive SamB, ever 21:24:01 <|amethyst> SamB: you're banned from reddit for life 21:25:21 * SamB has a feeling something has gone over his head 21:27:05 <|amethyst> (reddit has a "no posting others' personal info" policy, and people have been banned for violating it 21:27:08 <|amethyst> ) 21:27:58 <|amethyst> (sometimes even when the information is readily available to anyone who can operate a search engine) 21:28:06 Yeah now I have to figure out how to make colloquy not send that info 21:32:58 <|amethyst> http://colloquy.info/project/ticket/376 21:34:03 yeah, that's it, thanks 21:34:07 -!- zardo has quit [Client Quit] 21:34:16 Cherry-picked 2 commits into stone_soup-0.13 21:34:26 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.13 21:34:26 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-b1-28-gc7b9293: Use RMODE_CONNECTIVITY for flood find. 10(27 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7b929381834 21:34:34 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.13^ 21:34:34 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-b1-27-g112fb32: Use RMODE_CONNECTIVITY for monster placement. 10(27 hours ago, 2 files, 12+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=112fb32adef8 21:34:52 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:03 [22:27:39] <|amethyst> (sometimes even when the information is readily available to anyone who can operate a search engine) 21:35:08 to be fair this doesn't necessarily mean much 21:35:35 sometimes you can find out a fair bit just by searching for it, even if it's stuff that takes a lot of work to dig up 21:35:51 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:35:55 <|amethyst> Right, it being available is different from it being collected in one convenient place right next to a call to action 21:35:59 yeah 21:36:05 a surprising amount of stuff is public data 21:36:07 -!- Stupendous has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:36:24 <|amethyst> my and my coworkers' salaries are public data 21:36:24 -!- Stupendous_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:36:41 I'm mostly amused that reddit apparently has strict policies about that, yet it took them a lot of nagging in order for them to stop people from making subreddits about sexualizing minors 21:36:52 (and only did so for the purpose of self-preservation) 21:37:06 point 1 and point 2 there are obviously somewhat related 21:37:13 haha 21:37:52 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:38:03 not to mention "dammit, web.mit.edu is exporting /afs over html again" (it's amazing how many people do not get the concept of "global filesystem" and are surprised when their $HOME shows up in Google searches) 21:38:08 <|amethyst> gammafunk_: it works 21:38:30 geekosaur: you mean http ? 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Any suggestions? 23:08:17 |amethyst: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 23:10:18 |amethyst: would it have any extra bad side-effects? 23:11:04 <|amethyst> random wrath 23:11:05 <|amethyst> ? 23:11:44 I mean, what other things were you thinking it might do? 23:12:46 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:12:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:12:57 <|amethyst> I dunno... instant ****** when you put it on? (it would have to be destroyed when you take it off, or give perma-wrath) 23:13:24 -!- Kintak has joined ##crawl-dev 23:14:13 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:14:19 would this be randapp or not? 23:14:26 <|amethyst> or, but would need some downsides, amulet of faith that blocks wrath altogether 23:14:35 <|amethyst> hm 23:14:49 the amulet of opposite alignment 23:15:04 <|amethyst> SamB: I was thinking not, but that would be an interesting idea too 23:15:26 though I guess people usually ID artefact jewellery anyway ... 23:15:46 <|amethyst> FR: unrands with plain appearance 23:15:56 ooh, nasty 23:16:08 <|amethyst> maybe at least "glowing" for weapons etc, but otherwise not obviously an artefact 23:16:54 the robe of misfortune becames even more notorious 23:16:57 so it would be an appearance that looks like a normal appearance, except for being unaccountably rare? 23:17:26 <|amethyst> SamB: would probably have to try harder than that, so it doesn't get tagged as artefact for ctrl-f etc 23:17:39 yes I realize that 23:18:09 I suppose it could even coincidentall be the same as a normal appearance probably ... 23:18:57 (do we actually make certain that no two ring/amulet types have the same appearance or are we just lucky?) 23:19:28 <|amethyst> no one understands that code 23:19:32 <|amethyst> have you looked at it? 23:19:49 so we're just lucky then? 23:20:18 <|amethyst> oh, probably someone understood it at one point :) 23:21:18 yeah 23:21:21 <|amethyst> it's all pretty deterministic on the inputs 23:21:30 quit 23:21:34 er. quite 23:21:34 <|amethyst> but I haven't checked those numbers for primality etc 23:23:07 <|amethyst> yeah, the coefficients in numb[] seem to be all primes 23:28:28 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.14-a0-154-gb4c01a2: Recenter and optimize some foodstuffs 10(2 hours ago, 11 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4c01a2901e0 23:28:28 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.14-a0-155-gd989017: Disc of storms tile 10(49 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d98901741ddb 23:28:43 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:29:03 SamB: from what i've seen, there's no such check 23:29:18 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: did you see https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7596 ? 23:29:40 jewellery appearance at least is just based on the item's special or rnd 23:29:49 which could coincide by chance with another one 23:29:57 |amethyst: yeah 23:30:19 |amethyst: amulet of the Champion 23:30:20 of course, the chance of that occuring is vanishingly small 23:30:44 and probably nobody would even notice it if it did 23:31:03 since who pays attention to the random appearances? 23:32:58 <|amethyst> actually we do have an explicit check 23:33:08 <|amethyst> see initialise_item_descriptions 23:33:39 <|amethyst> (this doesn't affect artefacts of course) 23:36:03 ah 23:36:05 <|amethyst> there's still the question of whether make_name's RNG-like thing has collisions 23:37:41 <|amethyst> but the seed will be different at least 23:38:31 <|amethyst> you could have collisions across different item types though 23:39:18 <|amethyst> except no two types have the same name generation 23:40:29 <|amethyst> again, not counting randarts 23:41:29 also https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7588 seems not to happen for me 23:42:03 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 23:42:15 -!- Pisano2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:42:16 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: testing in webtiles? 23:43:03 oh... i'm stupid 23:43:26 well, it works on local anyways >.> 23:46:14 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:47:07 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:49:55 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:50:46 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:51:34 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 23:51:38 -!- myndzi has quit [Excess Flood] 23:54:05 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found]