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01:15:01 <buppy> hm, is the ability_type enum going to be expanded? there is no room for any more evocable abilities
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01:20:35 <SamB> I think we discussed this bore and there was room to expand down?
01:20:41 <SamB> s/bore/before/
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01:22:44 <buppy> SamB: I vaguely recall gammafunk asking about it, but with ABIL_EVOKE_JUMP added there's no more room
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01:23:07 <gammafunk> yeah, I think it is full now
01:23:09 <SamB> buppy: count the abilities before that
01:23:30 <SamB> that is, the ones before ABIL_EVOKE_BERSERK
01:24:30 <buppy> oh, now I see. Looks like it stops at ~23
01:25:21 <buppy> so I can add a 39?
01:25:26 <SamB> still it would be good to bump up the max at the next bump
01:25:43 <SamB> buppy: we didn't object before when you proposed to do it did we?
01:26:32 <buppy> I must have forgotten
01:26:51 <SamB> or wait
01:26:59 <SamB> oh, right I get you
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01:27:08 <SamB> but anyway go ahead
01:27:23 <SamB> just be sure to adjust the _MIN_
01:27:53 <buppy> will do
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01:31:20 <Cheibriados> Jump attack ability from mutation doesn't display ability description <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7591> by gammafunk
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05:30:35 <MarvinPA> re backlog, i agree that the destruction status effects being 50% is (still) bad and there's not much point using them in a place where it's already risky to take those consumables
05:30:35 <Henzell> MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
05:30:42 <MarvinPA> and formicids don't look anywhere near ready for merging to me, they seem incredibly messy
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05:33:48 <MarvinPA> messing with how digging works in a ton of places just for one species' apparently broken mechanics doesn't look good, as well as them trying to squeeze way too things into one species
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06:27:51 <MarvinPA> jump attack probably shouldn't have hard breakpoints on evo skill, just picking a range and sticking with it sounds better
06:27:59 <MarvinPA> also i'm not really sure why it needs to be a mutation as well as an evokable ability
06:30:31 <alefury> I don't really see the harm in also having it as a mutation, but there's no good reason either
06:30:36 <alefury> It's probably because Felids
06:31:06 <MarvinPA> well if it's going to be a felid thing that doesn't mean it should be a random mutation too
06:33:01 <MarvinPA> and at least the evokable ability requires a bit of skill investment for your free damage
06:33:05 <MarvinPA> although not very much by the look of it
06:34:35 <alefury> Yeah I don't really like the free damage either, I'd rather see it be movement only
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06:35:31 <alefury> gammafunk really wants it to do extra damage though, for some reason
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06:44:56 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-103-g5f54639: Fix the jump attack ability from the mutation not having an ability description 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f54639a62a1
06:44:56 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-104-ga60a766: Don't generate infinite fruit in Eringya's wizlab 10(37 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a60a7664349e
06:44:56 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-105-ga6db85e: Fix spacing 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6db85e736fe
06:44:56 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-106-g43f3d9f: Typo fix in jump attack desc 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=43f3d9f700ef
06:44:56 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-107-gcff566d: Fix a targeting message 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cff566dc10ba
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06:49:27 <MarvinPA> mm it also makes no sense that having the evokable jump ability disables the mut (especially since you could easily have higher success/range from the mut)
06:50:01 <MarvinPA> i guess making the mut felid-only fixes that too
06:51:38 <MarvinPA> oh i guess not because it's an artefact property too...
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07:50:38 <Cheibriados> DCSS crashes when saving with companions <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7592> by bofhorg
07:51:01 <alefury> MarvinPA: since you are pretty good at text stuff, could you maybe take a look at this? https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9452
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08:30:44 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-108-gd0c5b13: Separate evokable and mutation-based jump attack abilities 10(23 minutes ago, 3 files, 9+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d0c5b139149f
08:30:44 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-109-gb1eef20: Always identify evokable artefact properties on equip 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1eef20fda17
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08:38:28 <Cheibriados> 03Translators02 {galehar} 07* 0.14-a0-111-g6280027: [Transifex] Sync. 10(3 minutes ago, 37 files, 93+ 376-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6280027c4079
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09:21:17 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-112-g44b3cb9: Add gentleorcs to the list of grandiloquent stuff. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=44b3cb90485c
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11:38:10 <kilobyte> somehow, trunk --builddb (with a purged cache) segfaults for me on armhf, for quite obviously valid reasons, no matter what seed is given, yet I see no such crash on amd64
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11:38:36 <kilobyte> past versions didn't crash on armhf either, and there is no related change recently
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12:07:26 <Henzell> Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13-b1-24-g18a6e78
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12:24:54 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-112-g44b3cb9 (34)
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13:29:03 <Cheibriados> map generation uses player's traversability <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7593> by KiloByte
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16:14:33 <SamB> ??git
16:14:34 <Henzell> git[1/2]: Readonly: git clone git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git  Read/Write: git@gitorious.org:crawl/crawl.git  Web interface: http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git or http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl
16:14:50 <SamB> ??git[2]
16:14:51 <Henzell> git[2/2]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:git
16:15:10 <SamB> %git
16:15:10 <Cheibriados> 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-112-g44b3cb9: Add gentleorcs to the list of grandiloquent stuff. 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=44b3cb90485c
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16:56:22 <Cheibriados> Starting tomahawks aren't quivered <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7594> by Siegurt
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17:02:01 <|amethyst> !lg siegurt
17:02:02 <Sequell> No games for siegurt.
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17:10:11 <SamB> hmm, I guess the quiver code can't be simplified WRT wield due to no-weapon-throwing yet since sticks-to-snakes?
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17:11:54 <kilobyte> %git 518382ad0725020687c4c34cacb63acbcf2b4234
17:12:37 <Cheibriados> 07MarvinPA02 * 0.13-a0-3155-g518382a: Make Sticks to Snakes only work on missiles 10(2 weeks ago, 2 files, 9+ 72-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=518382ad0725
17:13:20 <SamB> yes but it's the ability to wield missiles that prevents the simplification
17:13:41 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-113-gd0f2ebd: Correctly handle autopickup_starting_ammo for tomahawk throwers. 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d0f2ebdc690f
17:13:41 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-114-g2be2ae1: Autopickup more starting ammo. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2be2ae11145d
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17:17:43 <SamB> pasto?
17:19:22 <SamB> oh, do nets still not stack well?
17:21:03 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-115-g49fe655: Remove weapons from the default fire_order. 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=49fe655fa572
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17:26:06 <SamB> huh, odd that git pulls in kerberos libraries ...
17:26:33 <SamB> oh it probably pulled in ssh?
17:27:07 <SamB> no, just libssh2-1 ?
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17:28:54 * SamB is glad you gitorious still serves git repos over plain HTTP; HTTPS is a pain in buildd chroots ...
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17:31:05 <kilobyte> what's wrong with git:// ?
17:32:19 <SamB> ARM's firewall doesn't let me reach that
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17:34:20 <kilobyte> ssh -R 9418:gitorious.org:9418
17:34:54 <SamB> hmm, does DSA configure porterboxes to allow that?
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17:35:25 <SamB> i.e. not really at all
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17:35:57 <kilobyte> if it works then yeah, it's merely somewhat slower
17:36:18 <kilobyte> it's making it work that's typically too annoying to do
17:36:24 <SamB> that's only a slight latency at the beginning isn't it?
17:36:29 <SamB> anyway gitorious did the work
17:36:59 <SamB> so I want to do "make debug" right?
17:37:08 <SamB> for that crash you found?
17:37:54 <Sizzell> agentgt (L15 DjHu) ASSERT(in_bounds(p)) in 'items.cc' at line 3740 failed. (p = (0,0)) (Vaults:1)
17:38:09 <kilobyte> not sure which crash you're talking about
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17:39:27 <kilobyte> !lm * crash -log
17:39:28 <Sequell> 5432. agentgt, XL15 DjHu, T:42813 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/agentgt/crash-agentgt-20131002-223754.txt
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17:40:45 <SamB> kilobyte: you said something about a crash on ARM
17:41:02 <SamB> something about --builddb
17:41:07 <kilobyte> ah no, what's weird is why it _doesn't_ crash elsewhere
17:41:28 <SamB> oh
17:41:32 <Cheibriados> Lua error on leaving Abyss <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7595> by Kyrris
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17:41:50 <SamB> well do you want me to *fix* it?
17:42:18 <kilobyte> I reported this in case someone knows the pathfind code (I don't)
17:43:13 <kilobyte> I went only so far as to see that the stack contains checking for suppressed equipment while checking player's resistances, in a place it obviously shouldn't
17:43:45 <kilobyte> which revealed bad behaviour: different players will get different maps, because the set of traversable features is different
17:44:54 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  do you know who passed in RMODE_EXPLORE ?
17:45:34 <|amethyst> newmons_square_find does but probably shouldn't
17:46:15 <|amethyst> oh, just plain flood_find does
17:46:41 <|amethyst> we have a RMODE_CONNECTIVITY now that would likely fix that
17:47:45 <|amethyst> it turns on ignore_player_traversability flag which makes feat_is_traversable_now ignore the player's preferences
17:48:01 <kilobyte> yeah, that's what I meant
17:48:25 <kilobyte> it is set from a number of places though, usually implicitely
17:49:22 <|amethyst> see if changing flood_find and newmons_square_find to use RMODE_CONNECTIVITY fixes the crash?
17:50:24 <|amethyst> also, feat_is_traversable has a bad trap check
17:51:41 <|amethyst> A. it ignores the new trap types that aren't in the old range;  B. alarm traps, webs, and maybe some others should be ignored for RMODE_CONNECTIVITY
17:51:43 <kilobyte> it's not about the crash really, it's only a symptom
17:52:04 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  it used to be much worse
17:52:05 <kilobyte> in fact, there should be an assertion to make sure it crashes :p
17:52:28 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  we'd fail to generate a level if a bet set foot into vaults
17:52:34 <|amethyst> s/bet/bat/
17:52:42 <|amethyst> because doors weren't considered traversible
17:52:56 <|amethyst> s/ib/ab/
17:53:54 <kilobyte> |amethyst: asserting that the game has started would let --builddb and --mapstat look for this kind of bug
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18:08:47 <|amethyst> got one
18:09:01 <|amethyst> it took a while though
18:09:12 <|amethyst> one run, but it didn't happen at the beginning
18:09:30 <|amethyst> has_exit_from, called from lua
18:10:02 <|amethyst> let me try that again with a debugger attached
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18:12:15 <|amethyst> happened on Vaults:3 I guess
18:12:34 <|amethyst> find_newmons_square_contiguous
18:13:04 <|amethyst> oh, this is a different backtrace
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18:19:34 <|amethyst> okay, the other one is in dgn_map_pathfind
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18:24:32 <|amethyst> the following things use has_exit_from directly or indirectly:  minmay_lair_entry_grove grunt_lair_entry_elf_guard_hut nicolae_suppression_spiral dpeg_entry_water_fire labyrinth_mini_lab grunt_house_of_mirrors
18:24:45 <|amethyst> it seems to be used only in validate blocks
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18:49:13 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-116-g3b2d4cb: Use RMODE_CONNECTIVITY for monster placement. 10(35 minutes ago, 2 files, 12+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b2d4cbffc3f
18:49:13 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-117-gc4feb4a: Use RMODE_CONNECTIVITY for flood find. 10(22 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4feb4ae9457
18:49:13 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-118-g5e1fb2d: Ignore most traps in connectivity checks. 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e1fb2db7c41
18:49:27 <|amethyst> That should get more testing before being backported
18:49:59 <|amethyst> the assert is in the first commit
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18:58:30 <kilobyte> no crash anywhere, apparently
18:59:49 * SamB ponders running mapstat with &player == NULL
19:04:06 <kilobyte> SamB: sounds like a cunning plan, too bad struct player has been the dumping grounds for any misc variable
19:04:28 <SamB> :-(
19:06:01 <SamB> maybe something with memcheck.h then?
19:06:17 <kilobyte> you.where_are_you and you.depth are thoroughly used in the map generator
19:07:07 <SamB> i.e. temporarily marking some stuff as verboten ...
19:08:05 <SamB> which reminds me, I have to check valgrind's bugs to see if anyone has reported the useless headers ...
19:09:57 <SamB> (it installs a lot of headers that would only be of any use if the related .a files were also installed, where the way upstream documents to use them is to add your code to the valgrind source tree)
19:10:06 <kilobyte> there's not that many variables, actually.  type_*, last_mid, char_direction (starting Abyss differs), unique_items, unique_creatures, branch_stairs, octopus_king_rings, uniq_map_tags, uniq_map_names, vault_list, global_info, save
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19:11:19 * SamB wonders if there are any good tools to detect headers which don't have any corresponding libraries installed)
19:11:31 <SamB> oh wait that wasn't a parenthetical
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19:32:40 <SamB> I found an interesting macro
19:32:48 <SamB> #ifdef __cplusplus
19:32:48 <SamB> template <bool b> struct vki_static_assert { int m_bitfield:(2*b-1); };
19:32:48 <SamB> #define VKI_STATIC_ASSERT(expr)                         \
19:32:48 <SamB> (sizeof(vki_static_assert<(expr)>) - sizeof(int))
19:32:48 <SamB> #else
19:32:49 <SamB> #define VKI_STATIC_ASSERT(expr) (sizeof(struct { int:-!(expr); }))
19:32:51 <SamB> #endif
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19:33:38 <kilobyte> how does it compare with our static asserts?
19:33:50 <pi31415> witchcraft, burn it
19:34:25 <kilobyte> in debug.h; with four different variants (plus a null one)
19:35:19 <kilobyte> the message with gcc-4.8 sucks
19:35:38 <kilobyte> all but C++11 suck, actually
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20:20:24 <Cheibriados> Jump attack ability and jumping ego uses tiles from flight <https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7596> by gammafunk
20:20:31 <gammafunk> !tell ontoclasm I made mantis 0007596 because I stole the jump-attack tiles from flight.  We could use distinct ones if you are so-inclined :)
20:20:33 <Henzell> gammafunk: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know.
20:23:48 <ontoclasm> ok
20:23:49 <Henzell> ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
20:23:51 <ontoclasm> can do
20:27:43 <SamB> what the heck is EUCLIDEAN for
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20:34:39 <alefury> its like squarelos, but the other way around
20:34:57 <alefury> unless you are referring to some other EUCLIDEAN
20:36:26 <SamB> does it WORK?
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20:39:32 <alefury> i think so?
20:39:46 <alefury> it worked at some point, I think MarvinPA tried it for a bit
20:39:58 <alefury> maybe it was someone else, also maybe it has stopped working
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20:40:39 <alefury> i dont see why it would though, it just adjusts move delay for diagonals I think
20:40:54 <alefury> (this is from hearsay, not from trying it or looking at the code)
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20:53:05 <SamB> hmm
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20:53:05 <SamB> static player_save_info _read_character_info(package *save)
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22:14:58 <|amethyst> SamB:  wonder why that doesn't use an unwind_var
22:15:26 <|amethyst> SamB:  I mean, other than copy_from not being called operator=
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22:20:35 <SamB> it'd be nice if there was a simple way to find all the places that reference a given symbol (as compiled)
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22:26:39 <|amethyst> SamB:  nm -A *.o | c++filt | grep player::player
22:27:20 <|amethyst> can add -l as well if you want line numbers
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22:27:50 <SamB> I don't expect that looks up the relocations using the symbol in the line number table?
22:28:08 <|amethyst> files.o:         U player::player(player const&)/home/neil/src/crawl/crawl-ref/source/files.cc:139
22:28:40 <|amethyst> it does
22:28:46 <SamB> woah
22:28:46 <|amethyst> For an undefined symbol, look
22:28:47 <|amethyst> for the line number of a relocation entry which refers to the
22:28:48 <|amethyst> symbol.
22:29:16 <SamB> hmm, now all I want is --all-the-lines
22:29:24 <SamB> which looks for ALL such relocations
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22:30:07 <SamB> and I guess would print the symbol once for each time
22:31:14 <|amethyst> What do you mean?
22:31:22 <|amethyst> by "ALL"
22:31:24 * SamB wonders how zsh would feel about command lines spanning lines
22:31:38 <SamB> well, it says it looks for A relocation
22:31:51 <SamB> in this case that's probably all of them
22:32:03 <|amethyst> ah, yeah, I guess you'd only get one per file
22:32:39 <|amethyst> and I guess it doesn't find references in the same compilation unit as the definition, since it's not an undefined symbol
22:33:16 <SamB> btw why are we using c++filt here
22:33:19 <SamB> we could be using -C
22:33:36 <|amethyst> because I didn't notice the existence of that option
22:33:37 <|amethyst> :)
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22:35:55 <|amethyst> maybe objdump -rCl *.o   but then you have to parse it
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22:50:59 <SamB> hmm, and that doesn't exactly show stuff like player::operator= got instantiated
22:51:20 <SamB> +why
22:52:19 <|amethyst> Is it ever used?
22:53:03 <|amethyst> I'd hope not since we don't have one implemented
22:53:22 <Grunt> you = winner;
22:54:14 <Grunt> (error: player cannot be assigned to const player)
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22:58:26 <|amethyst> player &player::operator=(const player &p) const { die("I prefer to detect my errors at run-time"); }
22:58:47 <SamB> player.o:00000000 W player::operator=(player const&)    /home/sbronson/crawl/crawl-ref/source/player.h:30
22:59:03 * SamB just doesn't know where it's used ...
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23:01:40 <SamB> /home/naesten/hacking/crawl/crawl-ref/source/player.cc:5696 (discriminator 0)
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23:02:57 <SamB> hmm, that's the copy constructor for player ...
23:03:20 <SamB> then it's used in player::copy_from !
23:03:22 <|amethyst> huh?
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23:03:42 <SamB> *this = other;
23:03:57 <|amethyst> ohh
23:04:07 <|amethyst> it's not called operator= so it can use the default operator=
23:04:31 <|amethyst> copy_from I mean
23:05:38 <SamB> and this is why it pays to use -O0
23:05:56 <SamB> well, that operator= might not be inlined anyway ...
23:06:09 <|amethyst> so yeah
23:06:12 <Grunt> SamB: so -O0 is optimal?
23:06:15 * Grunt flees in terror.
23:06:26 <|amethyst> there are several pointers in player that aren't handled there
23:06:30 <SamB> Grunt: it's useful for interrogations
23:07:32 <|amethyst> though 'save' seems like the only one that's a problem
23:07:52 <SamB> doesn't anything with non-trivial assignment need to be handled there?
23:08:16 <SamB> I mean, if only in the operator=
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23:13:31 <SamB> so, like
23:13:37 <SamB> / Not called operator= because it is implemented in terms of it
23:13:45 <SamB> // Rather than trying (and failing)to include explicit assignments
23:13:45 <SamB> // for every member at this point, we use the default operator=.
23:13:52 <SamB> darn IRC ate my slash ...
23:13:59 <|amethyst> that sounds reasonable
23:14:13 <SamB> hmm, spotted a missing space
23:14:22 <|amethyst> maybe instead of "in terms of it", "in terms of the default one"
23:15:11 <SamB> still no idea why the copy constructor doesn't use copy_from though
23:16:08 <|amethyst> kills is handled differently
23:16:41 <|amethyst> not sure why
23:17:52 <SamB> too bad we can't make player::operator= private :-(
23:18:11 <SamB> we obviously could do in C++11
23:19:35 <|amethyst> %git a0065e7a
23:19:36 <Cheibriados> 07pauldubois02 * ra0065e7a7d5c:  + allocate and initialize  + _fire_prompt_for_item returns -1, not ENDOFPACK  + remove _fire_get_noitem_reason()  + remove get_current_fire_item()  + fix get_next_fire_item  + remove _get_fire_order()  + remove _fire_item_matches()  + verify: no use of ENDOFPACK, use -1  + on_item_fired  - implement: tags stuff  + bug: wielding sling with stones = empty quiver  - bug: wield sling, no quiver, pick up stones: should quiver  + bug: wield sling, pick up stones: update # stones  + bug: wield sling, stones quivered, drop stones: should update  - feature: explicitly dropping all of ammo stack should remove it from quiver  - move get_next_fire_item into quiver.cc?  - remove: fire_quiver_best  - remove: you.quiver  - rename: you.quiver_change -> you.redraw_quiver  - test no item because of fire_order_begin, =f, etc  - find better place for on_weapon_changed  - polish Qv: display, the command change  - PROBLEM: cast_portal_projectile uses empty quiver slot? (test this) 10(5 years ago, 13 files, 261+ 309-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0065e7a7d5c
23:19:46 <|amethyst> doh, old svn logs
23:19:56 * Grunt , squished under an enormous commit message.
23:20:49 <SamB> should perhaps not be quite so trusting re: summary length?
23:21:38 <|amethyst> maybe
23:21:46 <SamB> two messages should be enough to represent any commit
23:21:46 <|amethyst> or should stop at the first newline
23:22:04 <SamB> the first newline would be a bit too much in the other direction I think
23:22:16 <SamB> sometimes it's just a *little* bit long for one line
23:22:37 <|amethyst> BTW, it really annoys me that git cherry-pick -x doesn't insert a newline before the (cherry-picked) message
23:22:53 <SamB> oh?
23:22:53 <|amethyst> because then if you cherry-pick a commit with a one-line comment
23:23:25 <|amethyst> (i.e. subjet only), then the (cherry-picked) message becomes part of the subject
23:23:30 <SamB> ah
23:23:30 <|amethyst> s/jet/ject/
23:24:05 <SamB> I didn't properly understand what the behaviour was from your initial complaint
23:25:13 <|amethyst> > "sometimes it's just a *little* bit long for one line"
23:25:44 <Cheibriados> 03SamB02 07* 0.14-a0-119-g4e89e70: Explain why player::copy_from is not called operator= 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e89e7063dbc
23:25:46 <|amethyst> I keep trying to tell that to journal editors
23:26:04 <SamB> |amethyst: about your titles?
23:26:37 <|amethyst> among other things
23:26:52 <|amethyst> "Come on, no one will notice if the hbox is overfull by 3pt
23:26:54 <|amethyst> "
23:27:10 <SamB> hehehe
23:27:28 * SamB is surprised |amethyst doesn't try to cheat the margins ...
23:27:54 <SamB> or the font size
23:27:59 <SamB> if in the title
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23:28:14 <|amethyst> I've cheated the font size before
23:28:22 <|amethyst> not on the title or over the whole paper
23:28:31 <ontoclasm> amethyst just always speaks in lines that are the correct length
23:28:33 <|amethyst> but one particular set of formulas
23:28:48 <Grunt> ontoclasm: |amethyst has everything lined up?
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23:29:04 <|amethyst> Much like the KLF, I am justified and ancient
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23:30:22 <SamB> doesn't microtype.sty have some helpers for that ...
23:31:01 <SamB> or do these journals still use a DVI-based workflow
23:31:48 <|amethyst> I think almost everyone uses pdflatex these days, unless they just take your PDF as is
23:32:02 <|amethyst> (I guess editing that with acrobat tools or whatever)
23:32:18 <|amethyst> I certainly never test DVI output before submitting
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23:35:33 <SamB> |amethyst: I believe they handle kills differently because in the copy constructor there isn't an existing KillMaster to clobber
23:37:53 <|amethyst> SamB:  init() allocates that
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23:38:14 <SamB> okay ...
23:38:26 <SamB> oh yeah
23:38:29 <SamB> okay I have no clue
23:38:46 <|amethyst> hm, let me dig deeper into the history
23:38:57 <|amethyst> but I have a feeling I'll run into "Initial revision"
23:40:32 <|amethyst> ah, maybe not
23:40:34 <|amethyst> %git fa763ba1
23:40:35 <Cheibriados> 07Matthew_Cline02 * rfa763ba1bc72: Split off portions of externs.h and enum.h into other files.  The crawl_environment, player and monsters classes have been left in externs.h, which necessitates that all of the enums references by those classes stay in enums.h, since you can't forward declare an enum.  However, it's a start. 10(6 years ago, 126 files, 3952+ 3488-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa763ba1bc72
23:41:12 <SamB> ... won't it be a glorious day when we CAN forward declare an enum?
23:42:21 <|amethyst> in that commit (where it was first made different), the kills weren't initialized in init()
23:44:06 <|amethyst> %git 85ef844891
23:44:08 <Cheibriados> 07kilobyte02 * 0.8.0-a0-391-g85ef844: Initialize all fields of "you". 10(3 years, 2 months ago, 2 files, 163+ 109-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=85ef84489159
23:44:28 <SamB> actually, what was five lines nearly fit in a one-message depiction of the previous commit here ...
23:45:15 <SamB> so are we going to clean up the copy constructor now?
23:45:15 <|amethyst> kilobyte made init() initialise kills, but didn't address pauldubois's comment
23:45:24 <ontoclasm> "initialize all fields of you" sounds like a really bad love song
23:45:59 <Grunt> I'll initialise your fields!
23:46:00 <Grunt> *evil glare*
23:46:45 <SamB> he'll probably initialize them with stuff like that reference kilobyte gave me the other day
23:47:25 <SamB> p = @0xec000000: <error reading variable>
23:48:04 <SamB> of course, he couldn't initialize a reference in init() ...
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