00:01:54 |amethyst: cool... at some point I'll try to reconstruct everything using the scripts, but having the overview page and clan listings and such is great until then 00:04:52 <|amethyst> still, I agree, my Christmas donation should go to archive.org this year 00:05:34 <|amethyst> (was Wikipedia last year and Dwarf Fortress the year before that) 00:05:45 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-b1-12-gca57caf 00:07:30 <|amethyst> s/Christmas/Atheist Kids Get Presents Day/ 00:09:39 isn't that still the same day though? 00:09:58 <|amethyst> yeah 00:10:20 <|amethyst> well, maybe it's the solstice instead depending on whether you're into astronomy 00:11:31 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-51-g38aedc8 (34) 00:12:32 oh neat, somebody made it so the player's name is bolded in tileschat 00:12:36 good idea 00:13:16 <|amethyst> %git 729cd84f8eb340b9d721962b5ab57866c319d2f8 00:13:16 07edlothiol02 * 0.12-a0-135-g729cd84: Show the player in the chat if they're using Webtiles. 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 3 files, 23+ 19-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=729cd84f8eb3 00:13:17 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:17:09 no, that's been ther efor a while 00:17:19 the change i'm describing is that said person's name is now in bold 00:17:23 which it wasn't before 00:21:14 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:23:55 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 00:24:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:26:15 maybe jorgrun shouldn't spawn in swamp 00:26:26 there aren't any walls fro him to use 00:33:53 ontoclasm: imo spawn him in a giant vault with metal walls 00:34:20 put him in labyrinth 00:39:26 <|amethyst> i was thinking a long hall with monster trapped behind glass 00:39:30 <|amethyst> Jorgrun at the end 00:39:37 <|amethyst> s/monster/monsters/ 00:41:47 <|amethyst> http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/nfm.des 00:42:36 <|amethyst> 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quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:17:07 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:34 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:57 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 04:30:21 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:39:47 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:52:47 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 05:09:02 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 05:09:45 !tell |amethyst Grunt said (9h 24m 7s ago): I can't seem to send messages to console players on clan ("Couldn't open ____'s spool file; aborting.") 05:09:46 TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 05:09:53 !tell |amethyst any ideas? 05:09:54 TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 05:10:09 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: Wrong button bad with computers] 05:12:18 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:12:48 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:13:03 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 05:15:51 -!- Vizer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:19:07 -!- Zermako has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:20:12 -!- 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It is not being flipped.] 05:24:18 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:25:04 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:26:35 -!- Nilsyn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:30:13 -!- Sombrero_Mott has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:49 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:53:01 -!- whaworth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:53:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:58:46 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 06:03:02 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:08:31 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:09:35 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:10:17 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:30:33 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 06:32:43 -!- Thyme has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:33:28 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:40:17 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 06:44:59 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:47:18 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 06:49:41 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:50:55 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:51:45 -!- gammafunk has quit [Client Quit] 06:53:28 -!- Somefellow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55:49 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:03:24 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 07:13:41 Don't summon demonic guardians when using tornado by Grandiloquent Gentleman 07:19:32 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 07:23:50 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:25:08 -!- fungee has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:26:10 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:30:02 -!- whaworth has quit [Client Quit] 07:31:54 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:37:00 -!- Fusha has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:45:32 <|amethyst> !tell TZer0 /var/spool/mail must be writable by the crawl user 07:45:33 |amethyst: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 07:45:49 <|amethyst> !tell TZer0 (a writable directory) 07:45:50 |amethyst: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 07:53:58 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 07:58:35 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:01:14 <|amethyst> nice: https://www.usenix.org/conference/woot13/page-fault-weird-machine-lessons-instruction-less-computation 08:01:31 <|amethyst> turing complete instructionless computing on x86 08:01:41 <|amethyst> based solely in interrupt handling and page faults 08:01:45 <|amethyst> s/in/on/ 08:02:26 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:06:06 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:23:49 -!- whaworth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:26:34 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:44 -!- VladTC has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:31:24 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:37:32 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 08:46:09 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 08:47:00 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:50:04 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:51:46 |amethyst, awesome link 08:53:49 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:56 |amethyst: I solved my "green crawl" problem. It was Mesa's fault. Someone typed B when they meant to type R. 08:55:27 -!- BasementCat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:57:50 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:02:04 -!- Thyme has joined ##crawl-dev 09:15:36 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:59 -!- Thyme has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:19:36 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:53 <|amethyst> pi31415: oh, really? 09:20:23 <|amethyst> pi31415: why don't other programs have the same problem? 09:22:19 -!- eeviac has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:53 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:25:44 -!- Thyme has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:08 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:52:44 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:55:07 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:41 -!- duralumin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:58:53 http://sprunge.us/chIL blargh 10:00:49 <|amethyst> tenofswords: ipairs also returns (index, value) 10:02:19 alright then, now the problem is just "depth(table.concat(depths, ", "))" doesn't actually do anything in assigning such DEPTH: 10:02:25 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:05:04 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:05:35 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:29 -!- eeviac has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812]] 10:11:03 <|amethyst> tenofswords: hm... I think nobody's tried Lua-based DEPTH: etc before... not entirely surprising it wouldn't work 10:11:39 <|amethyst> Perhaps there's a way to tell it to run Lua earlier, but I'm not seeing it in docs/develop/levels/advanced.txt 10:13:18 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:19:42 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:28 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:34:18 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:34:59 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:36:36 |amethyst: because crawl is the first OpenGL program I've run on DirectFB, the other programs were using SDL surfaces 10:43:56 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:31 Jiyva jellies run into flames made by ignite blood, causing penance to the player by nordetsa 10:56:39 Transient mutation conflicts with a racial one by Sar 10:56:58 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-52-gae74471: Add missing message channels to options_guide.txt 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae74471aa071 11:02:10 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 11:02:59 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:39 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:06:30 -!- tenofswords has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:08:36 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:12:06 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:20:37 -!- BasementCat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:23:58 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:26:38 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:26:44 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32:54 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:35:32 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:37:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-53-gf4aae92: Fix red devil hop attack order and messaging (#7573) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4aae922b97d 11:37:59 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 11:40:42 <|amethyst> would it break anything to let DESC_QUALNAME include missile brands? 11:40:57 <|amethyst> that the other major thing needed for #3062 11:41:06 Trury the Eviscerator (L18 FeDK) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 110: ZotDef: monster shark failed to pathfind to (40,26) (the Orb) (Zot) 11:41:33 <|amethyst> other things for which DESC_QUALNAME still isn't quite right aren't stackable so it wouldn't matter 11:41:41 <|amethyst> since they will never have plurals 11:48:29 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:50:31 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:50:57 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:55 <|amethyst> !tell mumra did you ever have a chance to look at #7297? Some Lua map stuff from infiniplex 11:53:56 |amethyst: OK, I'll let mumra know. 11:55:54 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:56:58 <|amethyst> !tell MarvinPA is #7337 (related to vorpalise cancellation) even relevant anymore? 11:56:59 |amethyst: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 12:00:40 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:36 -!- scummos^ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:04:45 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:58 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:41 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I have a few additional patches for monster (branches bleeding-edge-crawl, dcss013, dcss012, maybe dcss011?) when gretell's back up, 12:14:46 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:12 <|amethyst> kilobyte: s/(when .*),/for \1/ 12:15:30 <|amethyst> kilobyte: we have been reporting IOOD damage incorrectly ever since 0.8 12:15:42 <|amethyst> %git b8664d4c 12:15:42 07kilobyte02 * 0.8.0-a0-2235-gb8664d4: Slightly bump IOOD damage. 10(2 years, 11 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8664d4c4788 12:16:13 <|amethyst> kilobyte: also, marking the emergency/escape slot 12:17:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:10 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 12:20:28 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13-b1-14-g215694d 12:22:27 I think there's a problem with this temple layout 12:22:40 it's the one with the altars all in a horizontal row, and everything is surrounded by water 12:22:51 except the map borders are "endless lava" 12:22:56 so the water meets... lava? But there's no steam or anything 12:25:20 <|amethyst> G-Flex: the SUBST: is supposed to be in the same :if 12:25:37 I'm not sure what that means :P 12:25:47 I don't know about vault/layout design or whatever 12:25:53 <|amethyst> where is your game? 12:26:02 just that it should probably be either endless water or there should be steam involved or something 12:26:03 cszo 12:26:10 if you want to spectate I can go back to the temple in a minute 12:26:17 <|amethyst> what player? 12:26:19 or however you want me to do this 12:26:20 swinepaste 12:26:24 %whereis 12:26:24 No where information for G-Flex. 12:26:29 oh, Sizzell doesn't know about nick mapping 12:26:32 %whereis swinepaste 12:26:32 swinepaste the Grappler (L6 HOMo), a worshipper of Zin, is currently in Ossuary after 5881 turns. 12:26:50 <|amethyst> I like your capital pi :) 12:26:59 I keep forgetting I changed that 12:27:05 altars are lowercase pi, unless that's normal 12:27:12 wait no, normal altars are those half-height blocks 12:27:20 <|amethyst> I mean for your arches 12:27:24 yeah I know 12:28:01 okay, in the temple now 12:28:25 <|amethyst> can you move back to the middle 12:28:30 <|amethyst> so I can see which map 12:28:32 -!- duralumin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:28:44 <|amethyst> minmay_temple_bridge_d_8 12:28:53 d_8? 12:29:07 all set then? 12:29:23 <|amethyst> yeah, it shouldn't be giving you both like that 12:29:36 the water and the lava? 12:29:39 why, is it sometimes one or the other? 12:30:18 hrm, I ought to change "endless" water/lava into a new glyph now that I know I can 12:31:06 <|amethyst> : if crawl.one_chance_in(10) then 12:31:06 <|amethyst> SUBST: w = l 12:31:06 <|amethyst> : set_border_fill_type("endless_lava") 12:31:06 <|amethyst> : else 12:31:06 <|amethyst> : set_border_fill_type("open_sea") 12:31:09 <|amethyst> : end 12:31:41 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:31:42 so what's the problem? (I'm unfamiliar with whatever sort of scripting that is) 12:31:42 <|amethyst> so it should be either lava in the level and endless_lava border, or water in the level and open_sea border 12:31:48 yeah 12:31:49 I figured 12:35:16 -!- blabber_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:35:58 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:55 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-53-gf4aae92 (34) 12:37:33 G-Flex: that's lua scripting, but you don't actually have to understand how it works to grasp what's happening 12:37:51 <|amethyst> hm 12:38:05 or at least what's intended ... 12:38:06 well I'm not sure what the "SUBST: w = l" is 12:38:09 yeah, I get what's intended 12:38:18 <|amethyst> so if I keep regenerating that level, I get water or lava on the level, but the border is always open sea 12:38:29 always open sea? 12:38:31 how'd I get lava then 12:38:38 <|amethyst> I have an idea 12:39:00 set a watch on the border fill type? 12:39:09 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39:38 Trury the Sabretooth (L21 FeDK) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 110: ZotDef: monster swamp worm failed to pathfind to (40,26) (the Orb) (Zot) 12:40:13 <|amethyst> d 12:40:17 <|amethyst> err 12:40:20 <|amethyst> d 12:40:31 <|amethyst> // XXX: Currently, this is hacked so that map_def->border_fill_type is marshalled 12:40:39 <|amethyst> // when the maps are stored. This relies on the individual map Lua prelude 12:40:45 <|amethyst> // being executed whenever maps are loaded and verified, which means that 12:40:51 <|amethyst> // the next time the map is loaded, border_fill_type is already stored. 12:40:53 ouuuch 12:41:20 so it stores it once and doesn't heed it ever again? 12:41:33 yep 12:41:34 I might be misunderstanding this, but does this mean that it just stores whatever border fill type was generated for that map and uses it for future generations of it? 12:41:34 <|amethyst> so I bet the current trunk build on cszo gives everyone an endless lava border 12:41:56 it uses whatever was set when it loaded the map 12:41:56 because that's what it rolled at cache time? 12:42:33 so do we need to put kilobyte on this? 12:42:53 |amethyst, does it explain why it's done like that? or is it just implied that there's some terrible ugly reason for it? 12:43:25 Zaba: the XXX at least implies that it's done for ugly reasons .... 12:44:19 I found three matches for "// XXX: Currently" in *.cc ... 12:44:32 unrelated: can bleeding not directly kill things? 12:44:41 SamB, wonder how old they are - time to git blame :D 12:44:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:45:33 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:07 <|amethyst> %git d301b53bf 12:46:08 07due02 * 0.6.0-a1-1356-gd301b53: Temporary hack to make set_border_fill_type work. 10(3 years, 10 months ago, 3 files, 9+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d301b53bfcff 12:46:13 Zaba: I see no excuse given here ... 12:46:34 hmm, but |amethyst found the commit I see 12:46:48 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:05 * SamB grumbles about needing to quote the URL before he can use it on the command line due to the ? 12:47:33 <|amethyst> SamB: isn't the semicolon the real problem? 12:47:56 |amethyst: hmm? 12:48:00 <|amethyst> unless you have shopt nullglob or something 12:48:32 maybe I do 12:48:45 anyway zsh always gets mad when it sees wildcards ... 12:48:54 <|amethyst> oh, zsh 12:48:58 <|amethyst> I don't know zsh very well 12:49:12 setopt nonomatch 12:49:17 -!- axujen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:49:21 but the semicolons will still be a problem 12:49:52 SamB, autoload -U url-quote-magic; zle -N self-insert url-quote-magic 12:50:36 -!- Mulzaro_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:52:11 <|amethyst> this is I bet the same problem tenofswords was seeing when trying to set depth() from Lua 12:53:55 seems essentially similar, at least 12:54:00 I forgot how it all works, though :/ 12:57:12 -!- Mulqus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:59:51 <|amethyst> stuff that's stored in the index is I think not recomputed... tenofsword's issue would be harder to correct, because depth must be stored in the index 13:00:03 <|amethyst> but the fill could reasonably go elsewhere 13:00:52 -!- xyblor has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:01:28 Hack for the temple map: split the thing into two layouts identical other than the border; assign them weights 9 and 1 <_< 13:01:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:01:35 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:04 <|amethyst> Grunt: and do that to each of the several maps with the issue 13:02:13 <|amethyst> or use clever substs to condense those 13:03:17 I've struggled with how to get set_border_fill_type working properly for a long time. 13:04:27 -!- _UseBees has quit [Client Quit] 13:04:58 -!- VladTC has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:05:57 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:07:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:18 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:19:21 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:23:38 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:46 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:38:40 !messages 13:38:41 (1/2) |amethyst said (5h 53m 9s ago): /var/spool/mail must be writable by the crawl user 13:38:43 !messages 13:38:43 (1/1) |amethyst said (5h 52m 53s ago): (a writable directory) 13:40:58 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:41:04 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:51 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:46:03 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-54-g2c3290b: Add Naruni and BlackSheep to CREDITS.txt 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c3290b9f36c 13:46:18 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 13:51:00 <|amethyst> I sent a message on reddit to frogor asking about 0.12.3 and (when it's released) 0.13.0 mac builds 13:51:07 <|amethyst> we also need someone to do android builds 13:51:43 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:41 set_border_fill_type doesn't randomize properly by neil 14:02:13 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:02:41 -!- Mulzaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:05:34 what is so tricky about set_border_fill_type ? 14:10:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:10:33 -!- UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:10:49 figuring out how *to* keep track of the border_fill_type? 14:17:29 |amethyst: oh, didn't mention it, but it should work now 14:18:31 -!- syllogism has quit [] 14:19:13 |amethyst: hold on. 14:22:35 -!- Thyme has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:23:03 TZer0: is this about the console messaging, or something else? :) 14:23:59 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 14:26:53 Grunt: yeah, it is abut the console messaging. 14:27:16 <|amethyst> SamB: due suggested storing it in map_lines, and that makes sense, but doing that in the "obvious" way doesn't actually work 14:27:49 |amethyst: now it shows scroll delivered 14:27:50 TZer0: it seems to be working now, but keep playing <_< 14:27:52 but I see nothing D: 14:27:56 <|amethyst> SamB: which probably has to do with when the map lines are initialised 14:28:04 TZer0: press a key! 14:28:14 |amethyst: the obvious way being what? 14:28:17 <|amethyst> TZer0: are you logged in via console or webtiles 14:28:36 TZer0: you need to be logged in through the console to receive console messages :) 14:28:43 Grunt: ah, okay 14:29:16 <|amethyst> SamB: moving the field from map_def to map_lines, replacing uses of vault->border_fill_type with vault->map.border_fill_type, and changing the read and write code for map_index and map_lines to match 14:31:13 <|amethyst> SamB: in particular, the use of border_fill_type in _build_vault_impl are the important ones 14:31:28 yeah I figured that much out 14:32:14 <|amethyst> I don't know if maybe the lua is running after that point but before computing/placing the map lines 14:32:27 <|amethyst> it's definitely before placing them, but I figured they would be computed there as well 14:32:52 <|amethyst> (also, I made map_lines::init_from copy the new field, so copy constructor/operator= should work) 14:33:13 <|amethyst> s/be computed there as well/already be computed by that point/ 14:34:07 perhaps if we moved that bit to, say, after the call to _ruin_vault() 14:34:19 |amethyst: Do you happen to know anything about RHF WebTiles? It's been down for a while 14:34:30 <|amethyst> SamB: wouldn't that overwrite the whole vault? 14:34:31 I see joosa has some nice idle time 14:34:42 |amethyst: well, okay, point 14:35:44 <|amethyst> "I ask for border fill, Master!" "And you shall receive it, IN ABUNDANCE!" 14:36:37 perhaps what we need to do here is wait, and THEN fill everwhere that's not effectively ' ' 14:36:58 <|amethyst> possibly, yes 14:44:39 -!- Thyme has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:47 noticed a problem with the ossuary timer-related display 14:48:03 just prior to, then after, making it visible in LOS by opening a door: 14:48:03 _You hear the rapid hiss of an avalanche of sand. 14:48:04 _You open the door. 14:48:04 _You hear the slow hiss of an avalanche of sand. 14:48:11 it goes from "rapid" to "slow" once it gets in sight 14:50:31 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:52:13 <|amethyst> it goes from "rapid" to "slow" with time 14:52:31 IIRC the flavour is that sand is pouring into the staircase. 14:52:37 <|amethyst> the problem is that some portal noises "speed up" and some "slow down" 14:52:41 So as it gets full, you expect the sound to slow down... 14:53:27 -!- Ur-Quan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:53:31 <|amethyst> ossuary starts out rapid, oriflamme becomes rapid 14:53:47 <|amethyst> as does volcano 14:54:10 <|amethyst> it goes from "rapid" to "slow" with time 14:54:14 except this happened once before too 14:54:21 where it immediately went from rapid to slow once I saw it 14:54:32 although I guess that might be because the timer speeds up when that happens 14:54:39 That's because the timeout shortens when you first see the portal. 14:54:41 imo "rapid" meaning you have a lot of time is really counterintuitive 14:54:45 <|amethyst> Grunt: actually, volcano is an avalanche of rocks coming out of the portal, while ossuary is an avalanche of sand; why should the speeds be opposite? 14:55:10 well, an avalanche of rocks could speed up due to whatever volcanic activity is doing it 14:55:50 <|amethyst> wizlab also goes from "rapid" to "slow" (and then eventually "erratic") 14:56:26 <|amethyst> I personally think wizlab and ossuary should be changed, not for flavour, but to make the mental model simpler for players 14:56:43 yeah, same 14:57:03 it's sometimes not obvious what is meant by, for example, "rapid" here 14:57:04 or why 14:57:48 <|amethyst> (though there is a flavour reason too: "rapid" has an innate sense of urgency, which is what we want to convey) 14:57:54 yeah 15:02:14 are there any guidelines for monster speech? I noticed some inappropriate "you"s in some of the fight club stuff currently going on, which led me to poke at monspeech.txt; there seems to be almost random usage of @foe@ vs. @player_only@ 15:03:21 -!- Spess has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:05:02 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:35 -!- BlankDiploma1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:05:43 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 15:05:47 -!- BlankDiploma has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:23 -!- dead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:07:35 -!- rgvgrvvgv has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:09:45 <|amethyst> can monsters use abilities while berserked? 15:09:52 <|amethyst> Non-spell abilities I mean 15:10:02 I don't think so? 15:10:06 Did you have something in mind? 15:10:23 <|amethyst> putting a berserk_or_insane check in mons_has_ranged_attack 15:10:30 <|amethyst> %bug 7053 15:10:30 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7053 15:11:01 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:11:15 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:11:26 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 15:12:11 I know monsters switch equipment when berserked 15:12:17 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:12 well, I just patched my local monspeak.txt, trying to use some sense about which should be @player_only@, which should use @foe@, and which don't need to be touched (e.g. Beogh conversion stuff and player ghost speech can't be @foe@ 15:15:01 -!- bainai has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:15:45 <|amethyst> can pghosts not talk to your summons? 15:16:00 <|amethyst> I guess the messages would be wrong if they did 15:16:53 -!- ParallaxScroll has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:16:55 far as I can determine, most of the player ghost messages make little sense aimed at anything but the player 15:17:05 <|amethyst> Yeah, I think you're right 15:17:22 <|amethyst> and I noticed the @foe@ thing when I was updating Beogh messages, but didn't do anything about it 15:20:08 also it makes sense to me that, even when fighting a summoned monster, the ghost would keep needling the player 15:20:37 so in the rc file, to change the glyph of a feature 15:20:41 is it just a text-based match? 15:20:41 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 15:20:53 like, matching the description, e.g. "A collapsed entrance", or is it something more technical 15:21:05 also this was the wrong channel but oh well 15:22:56 <|amethyst> Yes: This regex should match the description when using the 15:22:57 <|amethyst> 'x' command. 15:23:05 <|amethyst> from options_guide.txt 15:24:03 -!- giantbat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:26:45 -!- rapierx has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:32:29 -!- frogor_home has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:58 -!- frogor_home is now known as frogor_ 15:32:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33:13 -!- frogor_ is now known as frogor 15:33:18 -!- frogor has quit [Changing host] 15:33:18 -!- frogor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:38 |amethyst: thanks, forgot about that file 15:35:13 Working on the 0.12.3 universal build for OS X, when 0.13 lands, I'll do that one as well - can't promise I'll be able to get it ready in time for the tournament, however. 15:35:14 frogor: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:35:22 !messages 15:35:23 (1/1) |amethyst said (6d 19h 2m 38s ago): any chance we can get an 0.12.3 build? (32-bit ppc + x86, -O0 just to be sure) 15:40:26 frogor: tourney is online play only anyway 15:40:38 Even better. Yay. 15:41:00 (also, thanks for working on OS X builds!) 15:44:48 -!- valtern has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44:55 Sure :) 15:47:04 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:59 -!- Valarioth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:50:08 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:25 -!- Aponym has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:57:27 <|amethyst> not sure who other than Napkin and kilobyte has permissions to put the files into place on develz/release or sourceforce 15:57:53 <|amethyst> frogor: btw, I asked via private message on Reddit, but how do you want to be credited? 15:58:04 |amethyst: Ah, didn't realize that was your account. 15:58:11 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:58:15 'sec 15:59:10 You can credit me by my name, Michael Lynn 16:04:00 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:06:04 -!- enygmata has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:18 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:09:45 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 16:11:37 -!- frogor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12:02 -!- enygmata has left ##crawl-dev 16:14:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-55-g908533a: Add frogor to CREDITS.txt 10(56 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=908533aa02d8 16:14:57 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 16:17:12 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:17:19 %git stone_soup-0.13 16:17:19 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-b1-16-g9de4eb5: Add frogor to CREDITS.txt 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9de4eb5739bd 16:17:32 150 commits to go <_< 16:20:43 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Quit: He who laughs last, thinks slowest] 16:22:15 |amethyst: on CDO, I think only greensnark, on sourceforge a number of people 16:23:02 <|amethyst> kilobyte: oh, someone put up frogor's 0.12.2 build on CDO 16:24:28 <|amethyst> $ git shortlog -sn 0.13-b1..0.13-fixes 16:24:29 <|amethyst> 15 |amethyst 16:24:29 <|amethyst> 1 kilobyte 16:24:29 "someone", yeah 16:24:52 <|amethyst> Grunt: why you no fix bugs? 16:25:02 <|amethyst> or at least make trivial text tweaks 16:25:43 <|amethyst> I can't do 150 commits all by myself in two weeks 16:26:49 I have only very limited rights on CDO: forcing a rebuild of an existing branch, messing with "monster", reading player saves, logfiles and milestones, rw to parts of the website (besides wordpress, which has separate permissions some if not all of you already got) 16:27:14 IIRC greensnark has root, but I'm not sure 16:28:15 it would be nice if Napkin gave you at least user-level login like I got 16:28:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:28:56 as for SF, there are "admin" and "developer" access levels; the latter should be able to upload stuff but it hardly ever works 16:29:54 the list of admins as of 5 minutes ago: nlanza, dpeg, peterb, evktalo, me 16:31:31 "5 minutes ago" because I just made the obvious change 16:32:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:32:15 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 16:32:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:33:15 this comes with spam from SF like "we noticed you use some other service than us for everything but downloads, can you tell us why?" and the like every once a while, but I think you'll survive 16:33:25 sounds good! 16:33:55 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:34:23 <|amethyst> :) 16:34:34 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36:29 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:37:23 -!- Soadreqm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:43:27 -!- t4nk590 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:47:07 send me your public ssh key, |amethyst 16:48:06 <|amethyst> http://s-z.org/neil/id_dsa.pub 16:50:38 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:50:41 done, |amethyst 16:50:56 to play crawl, execute "crawl" 16:50:58 (And there was much rejoicing.) 16:51:07 <|amethyst> Napkin: what user name? 16:51:17 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51:19 check ~/bin for scripts 16:51:25 "crawl", |amethyst 16:52:27 <|amethyst> thanks 16:53:22 main stuff: update-cdo-*, update-mingw-* -- you want to execute them with an argument (doesn't matter what), as otherwise they wait for a keypress every step 16:53:35 <|amethyst> okay, so it looks like I should be able to just put files in /var/www/crawl.develz.org/htdocs/release/ 16:53:36 I guess for hysterical raisins, Napkin knows why 16:54:38 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:54:47 when making a point release, it's important to put the changelog as ~/website/main/0.13.0.txt by hand; everything else is done on SF and wordpress 16:55:02 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:55:50 it shouldn't be hard to remember: when doing a release, I go through the Download page, every single thing to update contains the version number of the previous release 17:02:32 <|amethyst> oh, hm... I guess ssh -i still tries the key from the agent 17:02:48 -!- HamsterSaurusMex has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:03:07 <|amethyst> I was wondering how my ordinary crawl scripts (which use -i ~/.ssh/cao_key) were logging me in using my key 17:03:17 <|amethyst> but -v confirms 17:03:52 yeh, you need to clear SSH_AUTH_SOCK to prevent it 17:03:52 -!- duralumin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:04:35 you probable have "IdentityFile ~/.ssh/cao_key" in ~/.ssh/config 17:05:09 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I don't; it's sending my main key, not the cao key (well, it would try the CAO key afterwards, but this one happens to be offered first by my agent) 17:05:58 <|amethyst> oh wait 17:06:03 <|amethyst> I do have that as well 17:06:17 hehehe 17:06:24 <|amethyst> I don't have that for CSZO for obvious reasons 17:06:51 <|amethyst> so keys in the agent are tried before both command-line and config-specified keys? 17:07:01 yes 17:07:04 <|amethyst> I guess I can see why (can't tell if it's the same key unless you decrypt it) 17:07:13 <|amethyst> still annoying 17:07:33 hmm, GPG keys haven't got that problem ... 17:08:14 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:09:46 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 17:13:02 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:11 -!- Werehuman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:16:31 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:23:45 <|amethyst> !seen joosa 17:23:46 I last saw joosa at Wed Aug 14 16:42:57 2013 UTC (6w 4d 5h 40m 49s ago) quitting with message 'Remote host closed the connection'. 17:24:19 <|amethyst> !tell Meda No idea about RHF; I !told joosa about the new version a few days ago (it was still up then), but he hasn't been here since August 17:24:20 |amethyst: OK, I'll let meda know. 17:24:27 <|amethyst> !tell Medar No idea about RHF; I !told joosa about the new version a few days ago (it was still up then), but he hasn't been here since August 17:24:28 |amethyst: OK, I'll let medar know. 17:28:20 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:32:32 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32:59 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:48:06 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.] 17:48:59 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:52:59 -!- duckroller has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:53:39 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:05:15 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:08 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:39 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:19:35 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:23:44 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 18:23:44 -!- gammafunk_ is now known as gammafunk 18:26:26 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:26:52 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:26:57 Autoexplore minor information leak. by Siegurt 18:30:06 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:31:03 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:38 -!- UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:32:43 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:32:51 -!- UseBees_ is now known as UseBees 18:32:53 -!- _UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:33:12 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:33:22 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 18:37:56 -!- Poncheis has quit [Client Quit] 18:41:49 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:42:40 -!- giantbat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:42:55 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:46:14 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:48:02 -!- UseBees is now known as UseBees\ 18:48:17 -!- UseBees\ is now known as UseBees 18:48:19 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:33 -!- UseBees is now known as UseBees_[SmiteSt 18:48:37 -!- UseBees_[SmiteSt is now known as UseBees 18:51:50 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:55:15 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:41 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Client Quit] 18:59:15 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:59:28 -!- Mulzaro has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:06:48 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:11:01 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12:17 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:23 -!- rapierx has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:16:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 19:18:10 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:22:27 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:44 Why aren't we exposing the damage done by thrown weapons? 19:23:02 bh: by what now? 19:23:42 SamB: thrown weapons don't say "Damage: XYZ" like melee weapons 19:23:53 hint: weapons are only fumble-throwable now 19:24:18 did you mean throwable missiles? 19:24:35 yes 19:25:54 fair question 19:25:57 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:26:27 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-56-g8eed426: Reworked boots of the Assassin 10(4 days ago, 5 files, 26+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8eed426e8d0b 19:26:27 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-57-ga934eff: Update options_guide's advice on where to ask for help 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a934effbb3be 19:26:27 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 19:30:50 -!- Zifmia has quit [] 19:36:47 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:41:35 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:45:49 -!- UseBees has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:45:57 -!- __UseBees is now known as UseBees 19:46:16 bh: the current set of formulas makes that data utterly worthless 19:46:34 bh: every single missile works differently 19:46:47 kilobyte: that's... bad :\ 19:48:57 -!- Ur-Quan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:32 there's a plan, both my and Cryptic analyzed this, but there's a shortage of tuits... 19:51:01 basically, we can drop all current to-hit/damage code and replace it with a call to melee_attack 19:51:42 -!- UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:51:56 Clearly s/melee_// then. 19:52:10 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:52:23 removal of missile enchantment was the first step: except for slinging stones, all launchers have exactly one base acc/dam, and at most one enchantment 19:52:36 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:47 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:52:49 er, at most one pair of enchantments 19:53:06 (throwing has base stats but no enchantment) 19:54:21 this would effectively give ranged weapons a sort of über-reaching 19:56:12 by the way, here's an issue: if you're shooting past a friend, currently you're worse off for being more skilled and using a more accurate weapon 19:57:04 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:57:54 you may also want to intentionally miss that yak to hit that catlobe behind 19:58:35 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:51 -!- gammafunk has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:58:52 -!- gammafunk_ is now known as gammafunk 20:00:31 not sure what of it is a valid use case and what is not 20:03:28 kilobyte: can we make projectiles check the disposition of a target? 20:08:01 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:11:27 ie, always assuming you want to miss an ally, right? 20:12:35 sometimes you want to attack those, especially if Enslavement is involved 20:12:51 but I guess in such cases you're pointing at the monster in question 20:12:55 right 20:13:49 If you have two types of enemies frienD and foE and it looks like this: @DE, when firing at E, skill should help you miss D 20:13:51 -!- Fusha has quit [Quit: Poof.] 20:14:34 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812]] 20:15:18 hmm, something more: there should be an accuracy penalty to the real attack or otherwise it would be a good idea to use as many sputterflies as possible. But that in turn would lead to issues with penetration and crap allies. 20:17:30 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:17:39 if it becomes feasible to shoot through allies, then it's problematic to decide whether to show confirmation or not 20:17:39 Medar: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:19:32 there's an oddity with Fedhas who provides 100% reliable shooting through them 20:19:50 ugh. Mara's speech is so bad 20:21:27 -!- _UseBees has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:24:18 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:30:54 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-58-g4236123: Suppress detection from Boots of the Assassin. 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4236123ae6e1 20:31:51 kilobyte: do {Hunger} weapons hunger over time, or on hit? 20:32:09 The hunger randart proprty hungers over time. 20:33:27 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:33:46 bh: Mara: What is a man?! A miserable pile of secrets! 20:33:46 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 20:34:14 gammafunk: ok, that's slightly better than "I mislead the hearts of men!" 20:34:15 s/ble pile/ble little pile/ 20:34:27 bh: it's like a ring, only I think it's more variable 20:34:34 Mara throws a wineglass. The wineglass misses you. 20:34:51 Grunt: Grunt, one day you will pay for your subs 20:34:51 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:35:07 s/Grunt, // 20:35:09 :D 20:35:17 Convokers in Linesprint are the best thing ever 20:35:24 s/subs/puns 20:35:39 gammafunk: gammafunk, that was a bit excessive ;-P 20:35:47 SamB: SamB, what are you talking about? 20:36:19 You all, you all really know how to hurt some one 20:36:52 lol 20:41:47 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:42:33 I remember when I jokingly offered the castlevanya SOTN dialogue to dpeg before in some context. 20:42:51 He really liked it, and wanted to know if it was a quote so he'd have to worry about attribution :) 20:43:20 s/castlevanya/Castlevania/ 20:43:28 -!- fungee^ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:44:04 (Your quotes are as empty as your soul! Crawl ill needs a source such as you!) 20:45:25 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:52:39 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:53:35 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:06 -!- Senjai has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:59:37 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:06:38 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:31 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:12:15 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:12:16 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:17:39 -!- Hailley has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:19:48 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:20:32 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 21:20:50 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22:24 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22:51 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:59 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:27:17 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:33:39 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:30 -!- Senjai has quit [Changing host] 21:34:48 -!- Pepe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:40:23 -!- Pisano1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:48:32 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: Wrong button bad with computers] 21:53:38 -!- Roarke has quit [Client Quit] 21:54:20 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:09:03 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:43 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:04 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:09 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:36 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:25 -!- sumguy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:20:25 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:21:09 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:24:16 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:25:38 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:25:47 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:26:47 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:40 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-59-gd5eeb80: Constify, simplify, fix some types, and reformat. 10(39 minutes ago, 1 file, 50+ 54-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5eeb803e6b3 22:33:28 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 22:34:29 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 22:35:15 <|amethyst> (cherry-picking that so it doesn't cause conflicts should we need to backport description changes to 0.13) 22:35:29 <|amethyst> s/description/describe.cc/ 22:36:02 %git stone_soup-0.13 22:36:02 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-b1-18-g01a4d79: Constify, simplify, fix some types, and reformat. 10(44 minutes ago, 1 file, 50+ 54-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=01a4d79ac79b 22:36:12 Clearly |amethyst is going to provide us our commit quota <_< 22:36:44 <|amethyst> If I were trying for that, I would have split that into at least four commits 22:36:48 <|amethyst> one per verb :) 22:37:18 <|amethyst> though I guess this way I get to have one commit per source file instead, so that would work 22:38:07 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:39:36 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812]] 22:40:15 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 22:43:53 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13-b1-17-g3cedf87 22:48:02 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48:28 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 22:49:32 |amethyst: I've updated the jump_attack branch in my repo to fix the last major issues for jump_attack (jump_attack in empty square and handling warnings for jumping into clouds/traps/exclusions) 22:50:22 |amethyst: I'm not sure if it wouldn't be better to test it out in trunk rather than a dedicated branch, but we can certainly keep doing the latter 22:50:45 |amethyst: Also, not sure if that crash you sent me will be fixed by these changes 22:52:38 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:53:53 <|amethyst> it looks like you rebased master onto your branch rather than the other way around? 22:54:04 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^ 22:54:04 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-58-g4236123: Suppress detection from Boots of the Assassin. 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4236123ae6e1 22:54:13 <|amethyst> that one shows up as 0c44a5e in your repo 22:54:40 uh oh 22:54:57 easily remedied 22:55:08 I think 22:55:10 <|amethyst> easiest for me would be to rebase all your stuff onto latest trunk 22:55:16 exactly 22:55:22 <|amethyst> fixing enums as necessary 22:55:41 I did add the enums at end and put in the save compat code you mentioned 22:56:20 I'm not sure how I messed up that rebase; was rebasing some commits of mine that were adjacent 23:00:27 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:00:35 !lg * place=hall_of_blades 23:00:36 No games for * (place=hall_of_blades). 23:00:42 !lg * place=~blade 23:00:42 341. daf the Grim Reaper (L18 DsDK), worshipper of Yredelemnul, mangled by a great mace of draining in Blade (hall_of_blades) on 2013-09-20 20:24:16, with 238509 points after 85379 turns and 8:29:27. 23:00:48 !lm * place=~blade 23:00:49 18958. [2013-09-30 03:04:58] faffler the Conqueror (L20 GrGl) entered the Hall of Blades on turn 48956. (Vaults:4) 23:01:07 Am I reading it correctly that basically no one dies in blade? 23:01:14 I think hall_of_blades is the map 23:01:30 !lg * map=hall_of_blades 23:01:31 196. daf the Grim Reaper (L18 DsDK), worshipper of Yredelemnul, mangled by a great mace of draining in Blade (hall_of_blades) on 2013-09-20 20:24:16, with 238509 points after 85379 turns and 8:29:27. 23:01:39 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 23:01:45 !lg * place=Blade 23:01:46 341. daf the Grim Reaper (L18 DsDK), worshipper of Yredelemnul, mangled by a great mace of draining in Blade (hall_of_blades) on 2013-09-20 20:24:16, with 238509 points after 85379 turns and 8:29:27. 23:01:50 !lg * map=!hall_of_blades place=Blade 23:01:50 No games for * (map=!hall_of_blades place=Blade). 23:02:15 !lm * place=Blade !won 23:02:16 10710. [2013-09-29 18:28:21] acwest the Impregnable (L27 TeCK) is cast into the Abyss! (short sword of distortion) (Blade) 23:02:46 I don't think that's particularly informative 23:03:09 !lm * br.enter=blade / ${lg:place}=blade 23:03:10 339/14647 milestones for * (br.enter=blade): N=339/14647 (2.31%) 23:03:30 !winratio sojobo 23:03:38 !winrate sojobo 23:03:48 ??why do I suck at bots 23:03:48 !killratio sojobo 23:03:48 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:03:49 I don't have a page labeled why_do_i_suck_at_bots in my learndb. 23:03:49 sojobo wins 5.206% of battles. 23:04:00 Grunt: let's remove blade and replace it with a single unique :) 23:04:08 named….Blade? 23:04:24 We already removed all of Pan 23:04:32 Not sure we want to go that route with Blade 23:04:39 I wouldn't mind seeing Blade get the Hive treatment 23:05:14 fr: Remove Blade, make uniques named Blade and Hive (and re-add Pan) 23:05:26 sure, and make them spawn in the abyss 23:06:27 huh. Starcursed Mass chimeras are nasty. 23:06:59 "The chimera (ynoxinul, wight, wretched star) throws iron shot at you." -- !? 23:07:08 unknown monster: "chimera ynoxinul-wight-wretched_star" 23:07:08 %??chimera ynoxinul-wight-wretched_star 23:07:19 I'm on fire tonight 23:07:39 unknown monster: "ynoxinul-wight-wretched_star-chimera" 23:07:39 %?? ynoxinul-wight-wretched_star-chimera 23:08:07 take off the last hyphen 23:08:13 chimera (ynoxinul, wight, wretched star) (06H) | Spd: 11 | HD: 6 | HP: 21-47 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 12, 813(drain) | evil, !sil | Res: 06magic(24), 05fire, 02cold, 11elec+++, 03poison | Vul: 08holy | XP: 199 | Sp: iron shot (3d16), ufetubus, mystic blast (3d12) | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 23:08:13 %?? ynoxinul-wight-wretched_star chimera 23:08:46 fr make a unique treant called hive 23:08:52 ??ynoxinul 23:08:52 ynoxinul[1/1]: Probably the fifth most dangerous of the common demons; casts painful iron bolts, and if you try to run away summons ufetubi (which move faster than you and are hard to kill - rapid immobilization) 23:09:12 !learn edit ynoxinul s/bolt/shot/ 23:09:12 ynoxinul[1/1]: Probably the fifth most dangerous of the common demons; casts painful iron shots, and if you try to run away summons ufetubi (which move faster than you and are hard to kill - rapid immobilization) 23:09:13 ogaz: And when you hit him, bees come out of his bark? ;) 23:09:34 bh: I hadn't thought it that far through 23:09:56 Grunt: do you still plan on Eldritch Abominations? 23:10:45 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:11:54 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:12:29 -!- evilmike has quit [] 23:14:13 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:14:42 03bh02 07[banish] * 0.14-a0-61-g3a0c7a4: Merge branch 'master' into banish 10(3 minutes ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a0c7a42a699 23:18:10 bh: What's banish (the branch)? 23:31:31 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:31:34 -!- ZChris13_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:36 -!- ZChris13_ is now known as ZChris13 23:32:16 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 23:34:24 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Client Quit] 23:36:57 gammafunk: I'm banishing demons from the abyss 23:37:21 bh: Sounds nice, actually 23:37:57 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:39:06 There're some test scripts for generating monster distributions, right? 23:40:05 -!- johnny0_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:17 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:25 -!- Mottikins__ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:38 -!- darktwinge has joined ##crawl-dev 23:42:35 -!- Thyme has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:43:48 -!- rax_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:47 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-59-gd5eeb80 (34) 23:44:48 -!- broquain1 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:45:56 -!- Bcadren has quit [Quit: A day without sunshine is like .... night] 23:46:41 03bh02 07[banish] * 0.14-a0-62-g2080303: Add Chimeras to the Abyss. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2080303d4447 23:49:36 -!- xnavy has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:36 -!- minqmay has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:36 -!- Sombrero_Mott has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:36 -!- Sgeo__ has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:36 -!- Twinge has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:36 -!- Raycaster has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:36 -!- blackflare has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:37 -!- zrot has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:37 -!- Stelpa has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:37 -!- BrightCloud has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:37 -!- Sorbius has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:37 -!- broquaint has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:37 -!- caracal has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:37 -!- iasov has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:37 -!- johnny0 has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:37 -!- eith has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:37 -!- localhost has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:38 -!- Virigoth has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:38 -!- cptwinky has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:38 -!- odiv has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:38 -!- rax has quit [*.net *.split] 23:49:38 -!- lukano has quit [*.net *.split] 23:52:02 -!- Thyme has joined ##crawl-dev 23:56:15 -!- localhost has quit [*.net *.split] 23:56:15 -!- BrightCloud has quit [*.net *.split] 23:56:15 -!- odiv has quit [*.net *.split] 23:58:05 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 23:59:04 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:59:05 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 23:59:49 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]