00:03:27 <|amethyst> something like that, but I'm not sure how to best do that 00:03:37 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-a0-3133-gec0fa00 (34) 00:03:48 <|amethyst> not zapping it probably isn't safe 00:04:37 <|amethyst> saving and restoring it seems kludgy, though 00:05:00 <|amethyst> maybe if we moved player constriction info into TAG_LEVEL rather than TAG_YOU 00:05:07 <|amethyst> but that also seems kludgy 00:07:09 kilobyte: thoughts? 00:08:51 -!- ekix has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:11:06 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:01 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:20 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-3133-gec0fa00 (34) 00:24:24 -!- sumguy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:29:09 -!- Valarioth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:30:06 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: This is not a desk. 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Doing so will yield a permanent spectral, stair- and spell-using version of the monster. You may only have 1 enslaved soul at a time. 01:26:18 <|amethyst> Oregano: ah, you're right 01:26:21 <|amethyst> if (!mons_can_be_zombified(mon) || mons_intel(mon) < I_NORMAL) 01:26:22 <|amethyst> return MON_UNAFFECTED; 01:26:24 So dragon is no. 01:26:30 <|amethyst> likewise apis 01:26:34 okay, does xtahua still have breath? 01:26:45 You could enslave paladins!! 01:26:51 (when they existed) 01:27:08 <|amethyst> ogaz: yes, but plain dragon breath isn't a spell 01:27:16 <|amethyst> ogaz: holy dragon breath is 01:27:19 <|amethyst> In any event 01:27:40 <|amethyst> I guess we don't have any priests with spells that *conflict* with yred 01:28:11 What would conflict, anyway? 01:28:17 Cleansing flame? 01:28:39 Hmm, priestly recite 01:28:40 <|amethyst> Oregano: it would be weird if someone called upon yred to do that, yes :) 01:28:49 Salt player Ds 01:28:51 <|amethyst> maybe yred could give a unique spell set to enslaved priests 01:29:29 Malign Offering, maybe 01:29:36 Seems like it would work well 01:29:52 that would be sort of neat, I suppose ogre mage still exists as an available haste-slave 01:29:59 <|amethyst> well, most yred abilities already are monster spells 01:30:03 -!- ZephyrsAndFlora has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:30:16 @??deep dwarf death knight 01:30:20 deep dwarf death knight (03q) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 62-100 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 28 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 883 | Sp: animate dead, injury mirror, drain life | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 01:30:20 hmm 01:30:30 Your enslaved soul should be able to enslave a soul 01:30:33 hahahaha 01:30:34 If it's a priest 01:30:38 <|amethyst> Yo dawg 01:30:46 the Yred pyramid scheme 01:30:51 Emergent gameplay mechanics 01:31:07 well not much of a pyramid scheme if it's only 1 per but still 01:31:17 Yred congo 01:31:26 I will say that yred granting the same abilities you have is not that exciting maybe 01:32:09 <|amethyst> Oregano: you made me think of the Banana Boat scene from Beetlejuice 01:35:09 |amethyst: Day-o! 01:35:29 <|amethyst> Highly the deadly pink tarantella 01:36:02 <|amethyst> err, "Hide" 01:42:12 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 01:44:36 -!- thened has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:44:37 -!- thened_ is now known as thened 01:48:48 -!- thened has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:51:25 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:59:11 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 02:02:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:03:20 -!- thened has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:03:53 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:04:18 -!- Thyme has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:48 -!- hart_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:07:39 -!- Oregano has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:09:49 -!- bh has quit [Quit: sleep] 02:11:04 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:11:32 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11:53 -!- Fusha has quit [Quit: !] 02:13:02 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:13:46 -!- thened has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:15:25 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:21:26 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 02:22:01 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23:09 -!- thened has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:24:20 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 02:24:43 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 02:25:51 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:37:46 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:03 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:45:13 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:54:32 -!- Spectrina has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:02:30 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:10:26 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:10:54 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 03:22:07 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:58 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:27:06 -!- thened has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:28:28 -!- Mottie has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:32 -!- Mottie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:36:13 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:55 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: Wrong button bad with computers] 03:54:48 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:17:45 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:18:56 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:22 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:21:54 -!- Silent_Samurai has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:42 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:26:28 Hey, I was wondering if there's a tutorial or list of hooks or something out there for DCSS? I've coded lua before but not really sure how to get started with DCSS 04:34:19 -!- Thyme has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:35:17 -!- Nilsyn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:36:17 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 04:45:58 -!- jiero has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130911164256]] 04:46:07 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 04:47:52 Is there a way to "bookmark" issues in Mantis? 04:49:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:50:11 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:57:42 -!- iasov has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:58:51 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 05:02:13 -!- tali713 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:42 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:03:43 -!- Souljazz has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812]] 05:03:49 -!- nonethousand has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:14:13 -!- Silent_Samurai has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:15:09 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:17:08 -!- Silent_Samurai has joined ##crawl-dev 05:17:42 -!- Silent_Samurai_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:17:50 -!- Silent_Samurai has quit [Client Quit] 05:22:58 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 05:28:12 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 05:32:37 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:34:00 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:49:14 -!- ZebTM has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:54:12 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 05:54:55 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:55:36 -!- axujen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:58:16 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:04:00 -!- axujen has quit [Client Quit] 06:21:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:23:47 -!- Silent_Samurai_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:34:27 -!- hart_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37:12 -!- Erppo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:47:19 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:19 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:55:11 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27:42 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:33:49 -!- enygmata has joined ##crawl-dev 07:34:46 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:59 -!- nonethousand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:55:00 -!- tgcid has joined ##crawl-dev 07:58:33 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:11:24 -!- Bcadren has quit [Quit: Take my advice. I don't use it anyway] 08:15:38 -!- tgcid has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:22:16 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:38:17 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:44 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:13 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 08:47:55 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:08 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:02:18 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:15 -!- mumra has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:07:31 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:13:28 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:35 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:18:01 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:30:18 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:47:20 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:56:06 with large rocks penetrating now, am i supposed to be able to still block them anyway? i had been under the impression that penetration precluded blocking 09:56:17 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:57:56 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 10:03:19 it doesn't 10:03:45 you can block them just fine, and they won't penetrate if you do so 10:04:04 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:34 huh 10:08:45 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:09:06 so what does penetration actually do then? it was mentioned as a buff to stone giants and cyclops in the commit 10:09:23 it is very obviously a buff to player trolls and ogres 10:09:34 well... it goes through you if you don't block it 10:09:37 if it hits something (as opposed to being blocked) then it continues on to try to hit the next monster in range 10:09:51 against the plaer this only matters if you have allies etc 10:09:52 although if it misses, as opposed to being blocked, it may still continue on 10:10:17 so basically nearly useless for monsters and incredibly valuable for players 10:10:36 i don't know why large rocks needed a buff, but there you are 10:11:02 are bolt spells in their own category? 10:13:19 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:14:25 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:17:13 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 10:21:19 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:23 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:34:03 -!- UrQuan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:40:21 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:48:26 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:55:54 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:01:17 you can block penetrating (crossbow) bolts and javelins and large rocks 11:01:18 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:01:58 -!- HaiZhung has quit [Quit: Bye!] 11:02:21 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:02:24 i guess because they're physical things unlike magical beams/bolts (yay for bolts and beams being the same thing and different things and aaa) 11:02:40 but yes i'm not sure why large rocks need to be penetrating either 11:06:05 -!- gammafunk_ has quit [Quit: gammafunk_] 11:09:20 -!- Burer has quit [Changing host] 11:23:41 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:58 that's weird, wellsprings are ignored by &D 11:24:23 -!- rossi has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:25:49 ...actually, both kraken simulacra and wellsprings aren't showing up in tiles &D that's quite weird 11:28:56 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 11:33:49 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:35:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:44:11 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:44:24 -!- Ur-Quan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:58:35 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59:01 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:05 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:05:05 Ashenzari didn't detect an untimed bazaar gate. Is that intended? 12:09:21 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:12:49 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:31 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13-a0-3134-gc6de138 (34) 12:18:52 -!- duckroller has quit [Quit: i <3 pork (http://dev.ojnk.net)] 12:27:59 -!- UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:28:50 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:58 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:35 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:37:05 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:38:14 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:35 -!- nonethousand has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:39:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:47:37 -!- nonethousand_ is now known as nonethousand 12:53:55 -!- Thyme has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:35 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:57:30 -!- soundlust|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:01:18 -!- _UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:02:09 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:04:52 -!- KorpsDeKrieg has quit [Ping timeout: 262 seconds] 13:06:40 -!- LoremIpsum_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:13:51 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:14:47 as Thyme goes by 13:26:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:28:49 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:35:18 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:01 -!- axujen has quit [Quit: Gotta Go Fast] 13:38:53 -!- petete has quit [Client Quit] 13:39:10 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:15 -!- petete has quit [Client Quit] 13:43:36 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 13:47:11 -!- petete has quit [Client Quit] 13:47:23 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:57 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:50:57 Attaching to program: /home/kilobyte/crawl/crawl-ref/source/crawl, process 28290 13:51:00 ptrace: Operation not permitted. 13:51:03 eh? 13:51:29 -!- petete has quit [Client Quit] 13:51:51 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:09 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:55:23 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:55:31 -!- petete has quit [Client Quit] 13:55:38 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:45 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:54 kilobyte: that's odd. 13:58:02 -!- Marbit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:58:39 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:17 looks like some "yama" crap security module got enabled by default in Debian kernels 13:59:26 which protects you from yourself 14:00:18 * kilobyte quite fails to see what security blocking ptrace can give if an attacker can already execute arbitrary code as you. 14:00:51 some other parts of that yama stuff make sense, like symlink protections, but blocking ptrace... 14:01:05 file a bug? 14:02:09 -!- __UseBees has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:02:30 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:04:47 that's apparently done intentionally, although I see no explanation why 14:06:40 their intentions are obviously bad. 14:12:01 anyway, I keep getting infinite loops in level generation, both in --test and --mapstat 14:14:44 _pick_layout() got tries into deep negatives... 14:14:45 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:15:28 kilobyte: I thought they turned that off now :-( 14:16:32 kilobyte: someone tried to report that against the gdb package, asking for gdb to be made suid-root! 14:16:39 <|amethyst> Looks like it's time for me to find a new OS 14:16:40 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:16:49 <|amethyst> if developers aren't welcome anymore 14:16:55 anyway, you CAN turn it off 14:17:18 SamB: #712740 says so, but then, I based my config (for 3.11.1 + some picks) on Debian's 3.10.3, and it's enabled 14:17:41 then I guess reopen that bug? 14:18:38 |amethyst: time to switch to BSD? 14:18:49 <|amethyst> Windows I was thinking 14:19:19 good one 14:19:22 * kilobyte ponders Ballmer's dance. 14:19:57 "A wild Ballmer appears. It shouts 'Developers! Developers! Developers! The wild Ballmer throws a chair at you. Ouch! that really hurt!!! You die." 14:20:51 Grunt: looks like all of _pick_layout() has been recently added by you; it relaxes some checks if tries goes to 10 or lower, but will continue even at 0 and below 14:21:41 Grunt: do you know in what circumstances it would keep failing? (D:4 in one case) 14:22:13 <|amethyst> beef42 says that, apparently, ubuntu is still serving 0.10.3 14:22:24 <|amethyst> not sure who the ubuntu Crawl maintainer is 14:23:28 <|amethyst> hm, launchpad says 0.12.2 14:23:29 Ballmer with Alistair's Intoxication has a chance of giving you temporary wild magic? :p 14:23:45 |amethyst: as for the constriction issue from last night, looks like reset_all_monsters() will clear both sides of constriction even if one is the player 14:23:51 <|amethyst> kilobyte: yeah 14:24:10 <|amethyst> kilobyte: but not clearing it would cause problems when we actually do transition levels 14:24:17 <|amethyst> and reset_all_monsters doesn't know which is happening 14:24:49 in any case there are no legitimate reasons to ever clear constriction of a live monster 14:25:10 <|amethyst> but this isn't a "live" monster 14:25:36 the real copy of the monster has just been saved, yeah 14:25:37 <|amethyst> we're switching levels, so if we don't reset it, the monster with the same mindex on the new level would have the constrictions 14:26:02 <|amethyst> and if we reset the monster but leave the player side unchanged, we're out of sync 14:26:08 in my fix I'm testing I clear the monster's idea but without calling high level functions 14:26:29 so in all three cases: monster->player, player->monster and monster->monster it should be ok 14:27:28 what's the reason you reverted 325bb315? 14:27:57 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:28:08 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:41 <|amethyst> kilobyte: because there were objections to a half-fix 14:29:19 the other half is player constriction, which after my change appears to work 14:29:30 <|amethyst> the other half was fixing existing saves 14:29:39 and with both mine and yours (after unreverting it) I can't seem to reproduce the bug in any way 14:29:41 <|amethyst> at the time; this was before we realised the player constriction problem 14:31:32 should we bother with a nicer fix, or would just nuking all constriction on upgrades be enough? 14:31:38 <|amethyst> I have a patch to fix the constrictions 14:31:49 saves you mean? 14:31:52 <|amethyst> but it doesn't handle the case where the player was constricted 14:32:07 <|amethyst> http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/0001-Fix-existing-bad-constrictions-as-well-as-new-ones.patch 14:32:13 <|amethyst> (it also has the unrevert) 14:32:33 <|amethyst> oh, sorry 14:32:36 <|amethyst> it does handle the player 14:32:39 <|amethyst> forgot I did that 14:33:56 03kilobyte02 07* 0.13-a0-3135-g0e48b78: Include mon-spll.h just once. 10(74 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e48b78f4262 14:37:16 03kilobyte02 07* 0.13-a0-3136-g46b432c: Don't trample constriction when a level gets unloaded. 10(67 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=46b432c1adfe 14:37:16 03kilobyte02 07* 0.13-a0-3137-g37d18c2: Revert "Revert "Actually marshall the constricting map."" 10(64 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=37d18c2281a7 14:37:16 03|amethyst02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.13-a0-3138-gb027879: Fix existing bad constrictions as well as new ones. 10(15 hours ago, 2 files, 43+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b0278798d5b2 14:38:04 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:38:21 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:42:54 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:54 -!- ZebTM_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:47:11 <|amethyst> kilobyte: thanks 14:48:09 <|amethyst> kilobyte: what about escape_attempts and held? 14:48:15 <|amethyst> kilobyte: or were those already reset? 14:49:33 that's held in the constrictee so it should be ok 14:50:40 ooh, a new major release of mingw 14:50:48 * kilobyte gets distracted by a shiny :p 14:50:57 <|amethyst> right, but that's the code responsible for resetting constrictees too 14:51:16 <|amethyst> easy fix anyway, since we have a lowish-level method for that 14:52:32 hm 14:52:58 kilobyte: well, I was gonna look at the patches for linux but I got an error: http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/linux/3.10.11-1 14:56:51 <|amethyst> oh, right, that lowish-level method is protected 14:59:56 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 15:04:47 * kilobyte appends to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=721786 and grumbles. 15:05:15 -!- Soner2 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:32 -!- Soner has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07:12 kilobyte: ... are you sure you didn't do something wrong in building your kernel? 15:08:39 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-3139-ge8a6590: Clear held and escape_attempts when resetting constrictions. 10(16 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8a6590d3b9f 15:10:55 kilobyte: ... I didn't know you were a pirate ... 15:11:53 <|amethyst> SamB: have you never looked at gitorious? (wouldn't blame you) 15:12:17 not really since I got commit access 15:14:29 * kilobyte feels something has badly regressed in loading .des files. It takes two ages and three forevers. 15:14:33 -!- galehar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:14:56 fast machine, just the Windows VM is on a spinning disk 15:16:46 and we got hardly any new vaults since 0.12 15:17:33 git bisect ahoy? 15:18:21 http://sprunge.us/IEjM for "git grep ^NAME:"|wc -l in all releases 15:24:54 natively: 4.8 sec for 0.12 on spinning, 5.6 sec for trunk. On SSD: 4.6 sec for trunk. 15:25:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:28:19 -!- jason55 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:31:23 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:31:31 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 15:31:39 -!- myrmidette has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 15:32:23 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:34:45 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:34:50 fast armhf: 14.8s, Android on same machine: 37 seconds (measured by hand) 15:35:11 all builds -O0 debug, except for Android (-O2 I guess) 15:35:30 so something is fishy 15:36:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:39:46 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:39:53 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:00 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:16 -!- JozX has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:56 Can someone tell me how to access the options file on crawl.akrasiac.org (non-webtiles)? 15:52:00 <|amethyst> kilobyte: might want to verify I didn't screw up the cache invalidation in f94d332a 15:52:15 <|amethyst> JozX: o or O from the menu for your game version 15:52:40 <|amethyst> (the servers keep rcfiles for trunk, 0.12, etc separate) 15:52:56 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:53:11 Thanks! I want my view to be larger... I know the correct options but is max 81/71? is there anything else I need to do? 15:53:46 |amethyst: running from an already built cache seems to work fine 15:54:25 -!- sumguy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:55:15 would anyone protest if I tone down the colours in ^O ? New ones seem to be quite eye-gouging. 15:55:36 (ie, "let's paint the bikeshed not so bright" :p) 15:55:49 JozX: the max max is probably much bigger than you will ever want your terminal to be 15:56:08 hmmm I can't seem to get the viewport to be larger... I set view_max_width = 81 view_max_height = 71 but it still looks the same in game... 15:56:50 also removed the # comment tag 15:56:56 JozX: did you make your terminal bigger too? 15:57:15 I did with just dragging the corner, then did ctrl-r to redraw 15:57:22 is there something else I need to do in putty options or something? 15:57:44 as for .des speed, looks like there's no sharp regression anywhere, just the result of us having thousands of vaults 15:58:20 JozX: I don't think DGL works with that, I think you have to resize the terminal before connecting 15:58:46 so if PuTTY, you need to do it in the options dialog 15:58:54 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:59:14 just click "Window" 16:00:00 awesome, thanks!! It says it auto resized in putty but when I doubled it before connecting it worked! 16:00:11 -!- Medar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:51 yeah, DGameLaunch doesn't seem to support dynamic resizing 16:01:41 -!- BasementCat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:11:01 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:18:00 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:18:32 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 16:20:20 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:21:47 !tell bh I added abyss[9] based on what just happened in Wahaha's game. I thought you'd be proud. 16:21:48 gammafunk: OK, I'll let bh know. 16:22:16 ??abyss[9] 16:22:17 abyss[9/9]: This is a scroll of acquirement! What kind of item would you like to acquire? Something appears at your feet! You are suddenly pulled into a different region of the Abyss! 16:22:22 -!- JozX has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:30:08 -!- enygmata_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:32:21 -!- enygmata has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:34:29 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37:03 -!- Marbit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:39:07 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:41:48 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45:45 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:48:07 -!- m1nced has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:53:56 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:01 03kilobyte02 07* 0.13-a0-3140-gbdcfb35: Repaint the ^O bikeshed less brightly. 10(54 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bdcfb354d738 16:56:37 is it 0.12.3 time? 16:56:51 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 17:06:17 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:25 -!- Taraiph has quit [Killed (rothfuss.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 17:14:36 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:20:49 as for des files: parsing mons_spec takes surprisingly long, but it's still only 36.8% time 17:22:55 the rest shows no obvious culprit, so I'm afraid parallelizing seems the way to go 17:23:42 it's quite weird that parsing hardly 3MB of text takes so long 17:26:22 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:54 dpeg: o hai; what's with removal of throwing weapons? 17:27:11 kilobyte: thanks for bikeshedding. I forcefully restrained myself from commenting, but I did think they were too bright. 17:27:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:27:32 kilobyte: I am for the split. Feel free to choose the terminology for the throwing weapon between dart and javelin :) 17:27:35 just headers, or branch names as well? 17:27:55 I got a string of commits ready (for "next"), but I have doubts whether it's the best way to go 17:28:19 "why I can't throw this axe or that dagger?" 17:28:27 We'll never know if you won't push the button :) 17:28:33 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:53 kilobyte: this is just a rule question... new question won't ask themselves, and the old folks will accept it soon enough. 17:29:22 s/new question/new players/ 17:32:15 -!- brothergg has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:32:43 * kilobyte prods Chei. 17:33:15 also, that macabre finger necklace fixedart. I'd like to take it for the jewelry refactoring. 17:33:29 I don't particularly like the item itself, though 17:33:33 kilobyte: No idea if you did it on purpose, but your Ctrl-O colours are identical (or almost so) to the really old ones. 17:33:46 kilobyte: I need more context on that one. 17:33:57 just the headers, but they stand out 17:34:10 Green headers are better than lightblue ones. 17:34:20 they happen to be same as 0.12 by the way, so there's no change between releases 17:34:37 I am in favour of items like this (not necessarily this particular incarnation) because I am really keen on a random god power that gives you divine ring fingers. 17:34:39 (which is intentional; I cared only about brightness not hue) 17:34:44 alright 17:36:36 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3141-g1c94edb: Purge some racial missiles code. 10(21 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c94edbbaeba 17:36:36 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3142-g2c076af: A new throwing missile, tentantively named "tomahawk". 10(20 hours ago, 15 files, 57+ 74-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c076aff364b 17:36:36 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3143-g7dd46ea: Change hand axes of returning in baileys to tomahawks. 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 8+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7dd46eaea7bf 17:36:36 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3144-g8394718: Generate monsters with tomahawks rather than throwing weapons. 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 22-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8394718f4d23 17:36:36 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3145-gdf89f4c: Mark all weapons as non-throwable. Can still be fumble-thrown. 10(20 hours ago, 2 files, 82+ 88-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=df89f4c26ec4 17:36:36 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3146-g6cbcb2d: Purge obsolete code for quivering weapons. 10(20 hours ago, 5 files, 23+ 92-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cbcb2d290a7 17:36:36 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3147-gfabd5e0: Remove the returning brand for weapons. 10(19 hours ago, 14 files, 9+ 49-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fabd5e008e9f 17:36:36 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3148-g7b201d5: Purge a small part of monster thrown weapon AI. 10(18 hours ago, 8 files, 29+ 84-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b201d5282c5 17:36:36 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3149-g2da1b72: Purge the code for throwing (rather than fumbling) weapons. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 70+ 134-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2da1b722c711 17:36:36 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3150-g20b3437: Always id weapons on wield. 10(17 hours ago, 5 files, 5+ 59-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=20b3437a0c17 17:37:24 <3 <3 17:37:55 (I like to complain about the loss of Berserkers' spears. This would've removed those a second time.) 17:38:16 these commits warrant some discusion 17:38:54 03pubby02 {kilobyte} 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3151-g7d7ec04: Macabre Finger Necklace 10(3 months ago, 14 files, 219+ 245-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d7ec048610b 17:38:54 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3152-g94ed2b2: Drop capitalization from the macabre finger necklace. 10(17 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=94ed2b255fae 17:38:54 03kilobyte02 07[next] * 0.13-a0-3153-g2b24b88: Fix the amulet ring not showing on ". 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b24b8832ae2 17:38:57 c-r-d email? 17:39:01 Shall I have a go? 17:39:40 if you feel like, sure 17:39:57 kilobyte: you'll have to reply right away if I get it wrong -- promised? 17:40:05 :p 17:40:20 btw, what was the initial trigger for this: S2s? 17:40:51 btw, a cool feature of [next] (apart from less work for Grunt) is that notorious trunk players don't get to see the new stuff, which is good for stable testing, I guess 17:40:52 it feels bad to sacrifice realism for some simplification 17:40:59 never :) 17:41:03 this is what games are about 17:41:28 another reason against: multi-purpose items are better 17:41:42 this has melee-only hand axes and throwing-only tomahawks 17:41:51 we have to discuss where to draw the line, and opinions will vary, but the basic concept (how do we abstract things into our game?) is always around 17:42:14 kilobyte: yes, but no different to what swords and stones were always like 17:43:31 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 17:43:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:46:02 kilobyte: ooh! Can we get Frances->Asterion in next….next? Mantis 0007474 17:46:39 gammafunk: considering that I played with generalizing the summons cap... guess 17:47:00 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:47:05 kilobyte: My guess is……no? 17:47:25 * kilobyte kicks trunk. 18 cores on three machines doing stress testing and still no crash to debug :/ 17:47:37 trunk is just too good! 17:47:51 gammafunk: not sure if folks would agree to axing Frances 17:47:56 I'd kill her personally 17:48:30 Well, it did seem popular. At least more popular that just adding Asterion outright 17:48:57 ??Frances 17:48:58 frances[1/1]: The plural form of France, bearing a deep facial scar. Buffed in 0.12 to have a meaner spell set: throw icicle, summon demon, haste, and iron shot. Now hasted, earlier, slightly weaker Frederick. 17:49:37 I support adding Asterion, and I wouldn't mind replacing Frances with it. 17:49:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 17:51:46 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 17:51:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:52:40 !tell ontoclasm https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/Antaeus.png antaeus hit the gym 17:52:41 Bloax: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 17:55:08 kilobyte: sent 17:59:53 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:12 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:45 -!- Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:58 is it intentional that this bailey can't be crossed without flight/blink/tele? 18:01:01 is the thrown weapons change for 0.13 or 0.14? 18:01:01 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:01:02 (there's water across the entryway) 18:01:04 !messages 18:01:05 (1/1) gammafunk said (1h 39m 17s ago): I added abyss[9] based on what just happened in Wahaha's game. I thought you'd be proud. 18:01:07 !seen ontoclasm 18:01:08 I last saw ontoclasm at Sat Sep 21 18:49:57 2013 UTC (4h 11m 11s ago) quitting with message 'Quit: Leaving.'. 18:01:10 ??abyss[9] 18:01:10 abyss[9/9]: This is a scroll of acquirement! What kind of item would you like to acquire? Something appears at your feet! You are suddenly pulled into a different region of the Abyss! 18:01:25 New branch created: des_load (1 commit) 18:01:25 03kilobyte02 07[des_load] * 0.13-a0-3140-g2ed5856: Load des files outside of Lua. 10(4 minutes ago, 5 files, 20+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ed5856b2444 18:01:29 bh: It was priceless, although I'm sure it's happened before 18:01:43 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:01:57 bh: Hi! 0.14 18:02:51 bh: asked Eino for YABOD feedback (didn't get any yet) 18:03:07 bh: I pushed it to a branch named "next", mimicking the kernel 18:03:20 not sure if it's a good idea to shunt new features there 18:05:00 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:06:06 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:08:59 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:13:53 kilobyte: When you say that you played with generalizing the summons cap, do you mean that you have a commit for that, or that you tried but it turned out to be a huge pain? 18:15:07 I think |amethyst had some plans wrt the monster summons cap (also related to monster summons' behaviour after the summoner dies). 18:15:10 - if (summoned && stype == spell && mi->friendly()) 18:15:11 + if (summoned && stype == spell && mi->summoner == caster->mid) 18:15:14 that's about it 18:17:29 I'd follow with a refactoring of 5925792857239725 distinct monster summon spells 18:17:52 they all have a case on their own, often with subtly different behaviour 18:18:10 huh 18:18:18 would be nice to make it either a table or code that shares common parts 18:18:21 this loadmaps thing seems kind of crude 18:18:45 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:46 SamB: that commit doesn't really do anything by itself 18:19:03 SamB: (and that's why it's neither in trunk nor next) 18:19:03 hmm, let me look at the actual makefile 18:19:58 kilobyte: I'm just talking about this Makefile code that appears to hard-code the list of .des files to load 18:20:03 currently, if you run Crawl from git, Lua goes recursively through dat/des/ and loads all .des files; upon "make install" it prepares a static list of .des to load 18:20:33 SamB: it's not a new thing; it was needed to handle people with stale files 18:20:35 hmm, I guess it helps with people who make a mess of their install tree though? 18:20:40 yeah, that 18:20:41 yeah 18:22:06 anyway, I did get that the idea here was to make profiling easier 18:22:24 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:31 do we want to do anything with valgrind.h? 18:23:44 (like, mark specific phases of startup) 18:24:05 possibly; I have no clue about this 18:25:03 * SamB wonders WTH there are is so much in /usr/include/valgrind ... 18:25:05 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25:38 for people to write new overlays? 18:27:10 I guess "valgrind" can be its own dev package if it really wants ... there PROBABLY isn't anything in policy to prevent it ... 18:29:36 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:43 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:36:58 -!- aidan is now known as mineral 18:37:24 the documentation on writing tools only really covers doing them in-tree though ... 18:41:29 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:46:27 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:30 -!- enygmata_ has quit [Quit: \m/] 18:49:47 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:08 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51:50 -!- Dalvant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:57:52 kilobyte: firstly, it's a bug that it keeps trying at negative tries; other than that the only case I can think of where it would keep going is if the only layout(s) available aren't meant to be used with vaults. 18:58:04 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:46 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:50 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 19:02:54 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:43 kilobyte: actually, I was thinking of CALLGRIND_DUMP_STATS_AT() from valgrind/callgrind.h 19:06:32 -!- tali713 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:07:29 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:07:59 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:52 -!- tali713 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:28 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:11:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:11:55 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:13:10 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:16:38 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:41 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:27:39 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:29:32 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:31:07 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:34:39 -!- Bodrick has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:40:39 -!- _UseBees has quit [Client Quit] 19:42:05 -!- UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:42:40 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 19:45:21 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:40 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:52:06 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:54:57 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 19:58:04 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59:29 /quit sleeüp 19:59:33 /quit sleeüp 19:59:36 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:00:15 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 20:02:26 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 20:04:23 -!- Taraiph is now known as Guest94893 20:05:00 -!- Guest94893 has quit [Client Quit] 20:07:58 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:08 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:39 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:14:50 -!- brothergg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15:38 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:17:18 1. nice, better throwing! 20:17:32 2. what's "next"? 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Ramc the Conqueror (L27 HESk), worshipper of Makhleb, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2013-07-04 03:29:01, with 12017736 points after 135723 turns and 1d+0:36:36. 22:50:29 :( 22:50:48 oh, sorry about that 22:51:59 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:06 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:52:10 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:53:42 -!- culcube is now known as phyphor 22:57:18 -!- Stelpa has quit [Excess Flood] 22:57:47 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58:55 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:00:36 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 23:00:37 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:00:44 -!- gnsh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:21 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:03:59 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:42 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 23:07:19 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it wasn't me that had plans wrt monster summoning caps 23:12:35 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:13:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:13:54 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 23:15:30 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:15:55 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:21:33 |amethyst: I mentioned it, and you talked about it being part of your changes for monster summons 23:22:08 Or I perhaps just related to it 23:23:49 <|amethyst> I mean, I think it's probably a good idea, but there are other proposals as well that might be even better 23:28:16 -!- eeviac has joined ##crawl-dev 23:29:47 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:31:39 -!- _UseBees has quit [Client Quit] 23:34:27 -!- UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:37:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:40:23 -!- Soner2 is now known as Soner 23:43:52 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13-a0-3140-gbdcfb35 (34) 23:45:19 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:45:38 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:45:50 -!- tkappleton1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:53:16 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:55:15 uh 23:55:34 so I'm doing the orb run and I get to d4, and it's completely unexplored 23:57:26 <|amethyst> eeviac: shafted on the way down? 23:57:34 I'm looking for that 23:57:39 I don't remember xom doing that to me 23:57:53 oh I guess I did 23:58:03 I skipped a whole floor and didn't know about it