00:00:23 the bug you pointed at was a bug where the vault failed to be placed but the subvault registration stayed 00:00:31 for allow_dup subvaults, they shouldn't be registered at all 00:00:45 ah, k. i looked for "subvault" on mantis and that looked like the same error message 00:01:11 it's very similar 00:01:17 <|amethyst> I was just able to place it in all the hell branches 00:01:18 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2907-g70ca29e (34) 00:01:26 <|amethyst> with &L 00:01:36 i can place the subvault but not the main vault 00:01:53 <|amethyst> &Lnicolae_crystal_glyph_circle 00:02:41 my local version is a couple days out of date, have there been any major changes to vault placement since 00:03:12 <|amethyst> no 00:03:53 <|amethyst> in the game where it fails, does it work if you go *back* to D and place it again? 00:04:25 <|amethyst> or if you try to place it in a different hell level? 00:04:39 it works if i go back and put it in D, yes 00:05:31 but not if i try placing it in hells 00:05:55 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.13-a0-2907-g70ca29e (34) 00:06:54 -!- Mottie has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:41 does any vault work in hells? 00:09:54 yeah, i've made a few 00:09:57 as have others 00:09:58 and what if you clear all vaults first then place? 00:10:06 i mean, does &L work for you at all 00:10:36 works fine in and out of hells, just not with this one vault 00:10:42 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2907-g70ca29e (34) 00:11:29 <|amethyst> and it fails in a new game? 00:12:29 yep 00:12:49 how crazy is this idea 00:12:57 do it 00:13:05 just started up a new game, hopped to Tar, and &Lnicolae_crystal_glyph_circle fails with the subvault error 00:13:05 In shoals, a special event can be triggered 00:13:21 whereby fog rolls in on some edge of the level, a ghost pirate ship appears 00:13:36 skeleton pirates on it, and a portal/stairs INTO the ship 00:13:40 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:43 which maybe has two levels, loot at the end 00:13:56 I guess the ship could leave if you don't go into the portal in time 00:14:22 it'd take a lot of scripting 00:14:23 but it's sort of more than just a portal beign there; the ship actually comes in, fog machines active 00:14:43 yeah, it might even take some additional plumbing in the game 00:14:54 but does it break any of our sacred design notions? 00:15:17 actually ghost pirates are explicitly forbidden 00:15:24 haha 00:15:32 ok, they're pirate skeletons 00:15:34 quote: "2 spooky" 00:15:35 especially two-headed ghost pirates 00:15:35 not ghosts 00:16:07 what would distinguish the ghost pirate ship from other portals 00:16:28 though i do kind of like the idea of portal vaults themed for specific lair branches 00:16:45 doing 'level altering' portal events like these for each lair branche could be done; like a snake cult processing emerging from a 'hidden' entrance in snake 00:16:48 with a snake temple 00:17:13 nicolae-: I think it's basicaly special lair-branch flavor 00:17:39 A way to spice them up with some structure that other branches don't have 00:20:48 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:28:18 are there many existing places where the dungeon layout is changed dramatically like that 00:28:42 corruption, i think. and volcano. 00:30:33 yeah, crawl doesn't do too much timed dungeon alteration, but this could be kept reasonable 00:31:26 what would trigger the ghost ship appearance 00:31:43 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:33:46 I was thinking along the lines of it triggerent after a cerntain number of turns spent on the level, and it might just have a certain chance of appearing at all on each level 00:33:51 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2907-g70ca29e 00:33:54 it would only appear once in the branch 00:35:34 I'll have to write it up, send it to the mailing list to see what people think 00:36:41 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:46 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PLUARET(string, spell_schools_string(spell).c_str()); 02:18:50 the function is made to return schools as a string, so why wouldnt PLURET accept it as a string 02:19:05 oh, I don't know 02:19:32 cluautil.h:28:31: error: cannot convert 'std::basic_string<_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc>::c_str, std::allocator >' from type 'const char* (std::basic_string::)()const' to type 'const char*' 02:19:32 lua_push##type(ls, val); \ 02:19:38 thats even uglier :) 02:20:51 oh wait a sec, it worked 02:20:58 thanks 02:21:07 did you forget the parens or something? 02:21:29 ya :( 02:21:53 it's still making my head hurt trying to understand the message 02:22:19 thats gnarly for sure 02:23:02 -!- magicpoints has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23:08 nah, it's pretty simple, it says it can't cast a function that returns a const char* to const char* 02:23:31 the function being std::string::c_str 02:23:48 also, C++ is terrible and evil 02:24:03 i saw it saying cant convert const char* cont to const char* 02:24:14 s/cont/const 02:24:18 you can't just throw a bit of stuff in the middle out 02:24:52 Zaba, can't is a really powerful word. can we try shouldn't? 02:24:55 "const char* (std::basic_string::)() const" is a method type 02:25:13 Naruni, well, you shouldn't if you still want to make sense out of it afterwards 02:25:42 thats the spirit! 02:26:07 you can kind of disregard the things within <>s in this case, though 02:26:09 im really amazed at how this one change has caused so much recompiling 02:26:18 yeah, that's another evil facet of C++ 02:26:34 so which language do you prefer 02:26:38 Naruni: welcome to crawl 02:26:40 well, partly crawl's unstructured codebase is to blame 02:27:27 Zaba, woah woah woah, you can't blame c++'s apparent "terrible and evil"ness on crawl's codebase! 02:27:44 changing a tile, without altering the code in any way, causes the recompilation of like 35 files 02:27:51 i mean thats almost like racist or something 02:27:52 for no reason 02:27:59 Naruni, well, in the case of long compilation times, both are at fault 02:28:04 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 02:28:15 crawl could be more structured and consist of better isolated modules, but C++ would still lack a sane module system 02:28:39 Zaba, so how do we fix that 02:28:58 we don't, we get used to it 02:29:31 anyway, I have to run 02:29:38 thanks for the help 02:29:44 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:29:44 -!- gammafunk has quit [Client Quit] 02:31:03 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 02:31:04 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 02:34:24 Naruni: it might help if we switched to D or something 02:36:03 -!- kryft_ is now known as kryft 02:37:37 -!- magicpoints has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:41:58 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 02:46:15 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:52:51 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 02:57:15 you_can_smell <-- coding genius right there 03:00:03 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 03:02:10 fuck it happened again 03:02:25 git 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host] 11:33:36 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:48 how can I search for commits that change race aptitudes? 11:34:24 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:32 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 11:34:41 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:49 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:53 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:36:53 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:38:51 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:38:55 myrmidette: maybe look at the blod history for whatever that file is called 11:38:59 that has the apts in it 11:39:04 blob* 11:39:26 -!- duckroller has quit [Quit: i <3 pork (http://dev.ojnk.net)] 11:39:33 that file is source/aptitudes.h 11:39:44 yeah that one 11:39:49 gti log --follow aptitudes.h 11:39:53 <|amethyst> git log aptitudes.h 11:39:55 *git log 11:40:36 <|amethyst> oh, yeah, and --follow if you care about stuff more than three years old 11:44:30 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:48:44 weird how high elves have gotten so good at stabbing 11:48:55 used to be -1, now it's +2 11:49:10 yeah, sort of a side-effect 11:49:46 heas is probably pretty good i guess? 11:51:06 http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/history/7ae94216669e15b0ce8712136d7723234f6e12f5:crawl-ref/source/aptitudes.h 11:51:18 how do I view the history? 11:52:32 click history at the top 11:52:49 hmm 11:52:53 interesitng 11:53:09 maybe gitorious is sucking it up right now 11:53:14 but that's how you do it 11:55:14 so, is it fixable? 11:55:19 maybe there's no history? 11:55:39 !apt he 11:55:40 HE: Fighting: 0, Short: 2, Long: 2!, Axes: -2, Maces: -2, Polearms: -2, Staves: 0, Slings: -2, Bows: 3!, Xbows: 0, Throw: 1, Armour: -1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 2, Stab: -1, Shields: -1, Traps: 0, UC: -2*, Splcast: 1, Conj: 1, Hexes: 0, Charms: 2, Summ: -1, Nec: -2, Tloc: 1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 2, Earth: -2, Poison: -2, Inv: 1, Evo: 1, Exp: -1, HP: -1, MP: 2 11:56:36 * geekosaur would just check the thing out and use git annotate... 11:57:01 Honestly, what's the good part of long blades? 11:57:50 <|amethyst> largest weapon usable by a non-large race 11:57:54 <|amethyst> ??triple sword 11:57:55 triple sword[1/2]: A magical weapon with three razor-sharp blades. (two-handed Long Blade; Dam 19, Acc -4, Delay 19) 11:58:12 The higher tiers of them are either very rare (triple/double sword), or quite uncommon (demon blade). 11:58:12 ??great mace 11:58:13 great mace[1/1]: Largest weapon in the maces & flails category that most races can wield. 18 damage, -4 accuracy, 17 delay (two handed) 11:58:21 Also it doesn't crosstrain with anything but short blades. 11:58:39 great mace is common and better 11:58:41 While maces crosstrain with axes and polearms if I recall right. 11:58:49 Also great maces are everywhere. 11:58:58 <|amethyst> also, TSO 11:59:17 you can butcher with longblades? 11:59:26 <|amethyst> you can butcher with anything 11:59:29 and you can't with maces 11:59:37 also longblades make hydras more fun 11:59:41 are we back in 0.10 agani 11:59:49 i didn't know thanks 12:00:15 (But no, you can actually butcher with a cursed mace in hand.) 12:01:11 which sucks imo. 12:01:28 starving to death while frantically searching for a scroll is fun 12:01:43 myrmidette, what the heck versiona re you playing? 12:01:51 0.11 12:02:17 Since this is crawl-dev I'd assume discussions should be more about 0.13 or so. 12:02:40 Though I do agree that such episodes can be fun the first couple of times. 12:03:12 "fun" 12:03:13 -!- schistosome has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:03:31 the first couple of times. 12:04:20 why are high elves so good at transmutations? 12:04:21 starving to death is a funny-once. if then. 12:04:59 butchering with iood yay 12:05:26 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:05:39 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2907-g70ca29e (34) 12:06:38 ??elven 12:06:38 elven items[1/2]: Elven body armour impedes spellcasting less than other armour, especially if you are an elf. Elven cloaks and boots also boost stealth. Shields, gloves, robes and helmets merely weigh less. 12:06:57 they also give bonus ac 12:07:15 actually no they don't, nvm 12:07:48 ??dwarven 12:07:48 dwarven items[1/3]: Dwarven items are more resistant to corrosion than non-dwarven items. Dwarven body armour has an increased spellcasting penalty (unless you are a dwarf), but also improves your effective Armour skill (it improves it more if you're a dwarf). Dwarves wielding dwarven weapons do an extra random2(3) extra damage (randomly 0, 1, or 2) on each hit. 12:07:53 best items are best 12:07:54 <|amethyst> ??elven items[2] 12:07:55 elven items[2/2]: Elven weapons give a small to-hit bonus to elves. A randomly generated elven weapon will get +0 to +2 to hit. 12:08:20 we can thus conclude that dwarves > elves 12:09:35 <|amethyst> myrmidette: they give (effectively) a bonus to armour skill for AC purposes 12:10:00 |amethyst: Not sure how you feel about breaking save compat on the experimental branches, but jump_attack on my repo has the enum fixes and is synced with trunk 12:10:12 |amethyst: I just got another crash from that trunk bug on CSZO 12:10:29 <|amethyst> which bug? 12:10:36 That shaft one, I think 12:10:50 Let me verify that though 12:10:55 <|amethyst> Kirke? 12:10:55 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:11:16 yeah, seems to be same bug; stack trace looks the same 12:11:27 don't know which monster tirggered it; it had the lair entrance 12:11:33 but it was the fire drake one 12:11:40 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/crash-gammafunk-20130831-170101.txt 12:12:05 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:12:22 <|amethyst> I don't think that has anything to do with shafts 12:12:25 <|amethyst> let me see 12:13:52 I think it was pubby's do_shaft anywhere fix? You had found the commit when it last happened 12:13:53 <|amethyst> %git 1349002 12:13:54 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-a0-2806-g1349002: Don't crash when foeless monsters consider casting hexes (#7512) 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1349002da3a8 12:14:02 oh ok 12:15:22 <|amethyst> and your last commit from trunk is currently 2805 12:15:54 in my gitorious repo? I just pushed a merge 12:16:08 <|amethyst> no, I mean in what's on cszo 12:16:30 oh, ok 12:16:31 haha 12:16:34 juuuuuust missed it 12:19:28 <|amethyst> hm 12:19:35 <|amethyst> it's not a fast forward of jump branch 12:21:19 well you did make one commit 12:21:24 that I haven't merged 12:21:28 an inline of a function? 12:21:36 <|amethyst> and another one that fixed the contribs 12:21:48 oh, I messed those up? 12:22:10 <|amethyst> yeah, I think they didn't get updated when you merged in master 12:23:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:24:13 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 12:24:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:24:34 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:19 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:32:42 <|amethyst> hmm.. I think I'll leave this for someone better with git 12:33:06 <|amethyst> the best I can manage to do without having to manually redo all your merges is to merge your branch into mine 12:33:51 yeah, I'm still not very clear on how submodules work 12:41:14 <|amethyst> I guess I can push that merge to the branch, but we'll want to rationalise the history somewhat before putting it into trunk 12:41:17 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 12:41:37 03gammafunk02 07[jump] * 0.13-a0-2820-gad0bc3f: For testing, give boots of jumping to all species that can wear them. 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad0bc3f78c40 12:41:37 03gammafunk02 07[jump] * 0.13-a0-2821-g32ac1a6: Jump-related save compatibility 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 9+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=32ac1a68cb54 12:41:37 03gammafunk02 07[jump] * 0.13-a0-2901-g3749695: Merge branch 'master' into jump_attack 10(3 days ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=374969547fe0 12:41:37 03gammafunk02 07[jump] * 0.13-a0-2902-ga5e94d2: Fully set the jump mutation in the Felid save compatibility code 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5e94d2bba23 12:41:37 03gammafunk02 07[jump] * 0.13-a0-2903-g7c03254: Disable jump in tree and wisp forms 10(25 hours ago, 1 file, 10+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c032541af25 12:41:37 03gammafunk02 07[jump] * 0.13-a0-2921-g133f54c: Merge branch 'master' into jump_attack 10(25 hours ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=133f54cd979d 12:41:37 03gammafunk02 07[jump] * 0.13-a0-2922-g9ecac78: Include a header to use a canned message in the player class 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ecac7850155 12:41:37 03gammafunk02 07[jump] * 0.13-a0-2929-gd40658b: Merge branch 'master' into jump_attack 10(39 minutes ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d40658b6f2e7 12:41:37 03|amethyst02 07[jump] * 0.13-a0-2933-g6a84a04: Merge branch 'jump_attack' into jump 10(12 minutes ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a84a049b3e0 12:41:39 <|amethyst> probably just rebasing on top of trunk wholesale 12:41:40 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:42:46 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:43:51 <|amethyst> gammafunk: rebuilding now, then I'll delete saves 12:43:58 <|amethyst> gammafunk: so you should probably quit your game :) 12:44:02 |amethyst: cool, thanks. 12:44:04 will do 12:45:18 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:49 |amethyst: Any time switch to master, pull, and switch back to my branch, if I see submodules having commits, I should merge those? 12:45:53 I've been skipping them 12:47:06 <|amethyst> make sure you have the versions of the submodules from master (checkout master then git submodule update at the toplevel) 12:47:25 <|amethyst> then when you switch you your branch git status should show the submodule directories as being behind 12:47:36 <|amethyst> you can git add and commit those 12:47:38 yes, ok 12:47:50 <|amethyst> there's almost certainly a better way to do it, but I don't know it :) 12:47:57 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:48:11 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 12:48:37 Experimental (jump) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2933-g6a84a04 12:49:38 <|amethyst> I backed up the saves to http://dobrazupa.org/meta/jump/saves-preserved-67cd17f/ 12:51:12 cool, thanks 12:53:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56:50 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:56:50 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 12:58:00 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:39 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:01:18 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:35 -!- Burer has quit [Changing host] 13:03:28 -!- Burer has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:04:06 -!- Burer has quit [Changing host] 13:05:38 -!- Burer has quit [Excess Flood] 13:06:29 -!- Burer has quit [Changing host] 13:06:39 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:07:38 -!- Burer has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:08:02 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08:05 -!- Burer has quit [Changing host] 13:10:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:10:26 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:13:41 Hrm, it seems that forest places its vaults rather infrequently 13:14:27 I wasn't able to see any or my vaults nor many others in 100 level regenerations in wiz mode 13:15:38 that's okay, forest is a pita without any vaults 13:16:24 s/any of my/ any of my/ 13:16:27 grr 13:16:31 *or my 13:16:56 Well the vaults tend to have some form of loot, which players do like 13:17:08 And they add some structure to the level 13:18:12 -!- whelk has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:18:35 !lm * forest.enter 13:18:35 No keyword 'forest.enter' 13:19:36 !lm * s=forest.enter 13:19:37 Unknown field: forest.enter 13:19:45 !lm * s=Forest.enter 13:19:46 Unknown field: forest.enter 13:19:58 !lm * s=abyss.enter 13:19:59 62550 milestones for *: 13621x ?, 4705x deep elf sorcerer, 4560x distortion unwield, 4500x a Zot trap, 3846x the effects of Hell, 3425x Louise, 2879x ogre mage, 2314x deep elf demonologist, 1453x drawing a card, 1408x Erolcha, 1335x Sonja, 1244x a distortion unwield, 1084x deep elf mage, 868x the power of Zot, 853x Psyche, 690x wizard, 676x a card of wild magic, 525x Xom, 485x Lugonu's wrath, 443x... 13:20:02 !lm * forest s=type 13:20:03 3224 milestones for * (forest): 1543x uniq, 726x br.enter, 524x br.end, 228x br.exit, 92x abyss.enter, 56x ghost, 13x god.maxpiety, 12x uniq.pac, 11x god.mollify, 8x crash, 5x death, 3x god.renounce, 2x uniq.ban, uniq.ens 13:20:16 !lm * forest type=br.enter 13:20:16 726. [2013-08-31 16:15:33] tizz the Axe Maniac (L27 GrFi) entered the Enchanted Forest on turn 90211. (Vaults:2) 13:20:26 thanks 13:20:38 726 people trying forest 13:20:52 I'm not sure if many of these vaults have ever been encountered even in all that 13:21:09 We have no way of knowing for sure, unless a player dies there 13:22:26 the hell is br.exit 13:22:32 !lm * forest type=br.exit 13:22:33 228. [2013-08-31 15:15:37] twelwe the Conqueror (L27 MiMo) left the Tomb of the Ancients on turn 103975. (Tomb:1) 13:23:28 !lm * type=br.exit 13:23:28 153697. [2013-08-31 18:19:26] yokelz0r the Acrobat (L22 HaBe) left the Spider Nest on turn 61318. (Spider:1) 13:23:41 I didn't realize that that's a thing 13:23:43 I guess one gets generated on ….first exit? 13:24:11 <|amethyst> it's there mostly for tracking tournament banners 13:24:15 <|amethyst> likewise br.mid 13:25:10 !tell Grunt Do you think that forest vault placement frequency could be increased? Testing in wizmode suggests that many of our forest vaults have never been seen online 13:25:11 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 13:25:58 <|amethyst> gammafunk: have you tried with a debug build? 13:26:10 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it may be that something is causing them to be vetoed when they are placed 13:26:14 <|amethyst> s/when/after/ 13:26:27 |amethyst: This is with a debug-lite build. Can I see those details with that build? 13:27:06 <|amethyst> no, you need a fulldebug build to get the diagnostic messages for vetoes etc 13:27:13 ok, I'll try that 13:28:21 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:28:58 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:32:22 !lm * s=abyss.enter 13:32:23 62550 milestones for *: 13621x ?, 4705x deep elf sorcerer, 4560x distortion unwield, 4500x a Zot trap, 3846x the effects of Hell, 3425x Louise, 2879x ogre mage, 2314x deep elf demonologist, 1453x drawing a card, 1408x Erolcha, 1335x Sonja, 1244x a distortion unwield, 1084x deep elf mage, 868x the power of Zot, 853x Psyche, 690x wizard, 676x a card of wild magic, 525x Xom, 485x Lugonu's wrath, 443x... 13:32:37 why is distortion unwield listed twice? 13:32:44 "a " 13:32:53 odd 13:33:04 !lm * abyss.enter=a distortion unwield 13:33:05 No keyword 'distortion' 13:33:08 !lm * abyss.enter='a distortion unwield' 13:33:09 1244. [2013-08-31 16:04:34] johnnyzero the Bringer of Life (L24 HEMo) is cast into the Abyss! (a distortion unwield) (Forest:5) 13:33:13 !lm * abyss.enter='distortion unwield' 13:33:14 4560. [2013-04-22 12:07:01] Xenene the Spry (L15 NaBe) is cast into the Abyss! (distortion unwield) (Swamp:3) 13:33:20 !lm * abyss.enter='a distortion unwield' 1 13:33:21 1/1244. [2012-07-16 02:17:48] Neil the Severer (L16 DDBe) is cast into the Abyss! (a distortion unwield) (Shoals:2) 13:33:32 !lm * abyss.enter='a distortion unwield' s=v 13:33:32 1244 milestones for * (abyss.enter='a distortion unwield'): 363x 0.12.0-a0, 308x 0.13.0-a0, 240x 0.11.0, 118x 0.12.1, 52x 0.11.1, 45x 0.12.2, 41x 0.11.0-b1, 33x 0.11.2, 19x 0.11.0-a0, 17x 0.12.0-b1, 4x 0.12.0, 4x 0.11.3 13:33:39 !lm * abyss.enter='distortion unwield' s=v 13:33:40 4560 milestones for * (abyss.enter='distortion unwield'): 746x 0.9.0, 488x 0.7.1, 474x 0.8.0, 327x 0.8.0-a0, 270x 0.6.0, 204x 0.5.1, 197x 0.10.0, 194x 0.5.2, 191x 0.10.0-a0, 155x 0.4.4, 151x 0.4.5, 139x 0.11.0-a0, 128x 0.10.2, 127x 0.9.0-a1, 94x 0.5.0, 91x 0.9.0-a0, 81x 0.6.1, 78x 0.8.1, 63x 0.7.0-a0, 59x 0.6.0-a1, 44x 0.10.1, 34x 0.4.0, 27x 0.8.0-a1, 25x 0.10.3, 22x 0.4.1, 21x 0.4.3, 21x 0.9.0-b1... 13:33:56 !lm * abyss.enter='distortion unwield' s=cv 13:33:57 4560 milestones for * (abyss.enter='distortion unwield'): 762x 0.9, 552x 0.8, 509x 0.7, 469x 0.5, 394x 0.10, 355x 0.8-a, 353x 0.4, 348x 0.6, 240x 0.9-a, 197x 0.10-a, 139x 0.11-a, 95x 0.7-a, 94x 0.6-a, 30x 0.4-a, 23x 0.5-a 13:34:04 !lm * abyss.enter='a distortion unwield' s=cv 13:34:05 1244 milestones for * (abyss.enter='a distortion unwield'): 380x 0.12-a, 329x 0.11, 308x 0.13-a, 167x 0.12, 60x 0.11-a 13:34:18 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:34:21 That pesky english language 13:34:24 switched in 0.11 to use "a" 13:34:52 <|amethyst> use ~~ instead 13:34:59 <|amethyst> it's an unanchored regexp match 13:35:14 i wanted to get them separate, alefury 13:35:17 |amethyst * 13:35:44 <|amethyst> !lm * abyss.enter~~'distortion unwield' s=noun,cv 13:35:45 5804 milestones for * (abyss.enter~~'distortion unwield'): 4560x distortion unwield (762x 0.9, 552x 0.8, 509x 0.7, 469x 0.5, 394x 0.10, 355x 0.8-a, 353x 0.4, 348x 0.6, 240x 0.9-a, 197x 0.10-a, 139x 0.11-a, 95x 0.7-a, 94x 0.6-a, 30x 0.4-a, 23x 0.5-a), 1244x a distortion unwield (380x 0.12-a, 329x 0.11, 308x 0.13-a, 167x 0.12, 60x 0.11-a) 13:36:06 <|amethyst> !lm * abyss.enter~~distortion s=noun 13:36:07 6649 milestones for * (abyss.enter~~distortion): 4560x distortion unwield, 1244x a distortion unwield, 421x a distortion effect, 39x trident of distortion, 39x halberd of distortion, 24x glaive of distortion, 23x great mace of distortion, 20x war axe of distortion, 20x battleaxe of distortion, 18x long sword of distortion, 18x scimitar of distortion, 15x short sword of distortion, 15x hand axe of ... 13:36:28 <|amethyst> !lm * abyss.enter~~distortion noun!~~of s=noun 13:36:29 6230 milestones for * (abyss.enter~~distortion noun!~~of): 4560x distortion unwield, 1244x a distortion unwield, 421x a distortion effect, 4x distortion unbrand, distortion affixation 13:37:46 -!- whelk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:05 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:37 fr: monster miscasts 13:52:32 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:38 kilobyte around? 13:55:38 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57:56 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:59:25 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 14:02:21 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:02:58 -!- erakko has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:06:12 -!- slifty has quit [Client Quit] 14:14:40 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:14:46 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 14:16:00 -!- lessens has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:24 -!- slifty has quit [Client Quit] 14:19:48 is there a reason why item_def::name(DESC_QUALNAME) returns unid_name for some randarts? 14:21:05 oh, nervermind. i forgot to set ISFLAG_IDENT_MASK 14:22:36 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:23:30 -!- robotcentaur has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:19 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:29:59 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:30:13 -!- Danei has quit [Quit: Those who tell the truth shall die, those who tell the truth shall live forever.] 14:33:08 -!- robotcentaur has left ##crawl-dev 14:33:23 -!- robotcentaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:33:47 -!- petete has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:34:37 -!- whelk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:35:45 fr: poison doesn't interrupt memorisation 14:37:57 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:57 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:39:42 fr: Poison/effect timeout doesn't interrupt memorisation 14:39:55 effect/buff* 14:45:20 yeah the effect 14:45:32 getting shot with poison arrow should still interrupt 14:48:07 -!- axujen has quit [Quit: Gotta Go Fast] 14:49:24 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:05 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 14:50:25 -!- _dd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:51:50 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 14:57:56 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:00:25 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Pacra] 15:01:06 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:02:38 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:03:50 -!- Fhqwhgads__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:06:13 -!- Sandman has quit [Client Quit] 15:07:20 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:07:31 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:06 Naruni: meow? 15:15:07 kilobyte: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:15:16 meow 15:15:24 gadget shops should sell rods 15:15:25 meow 15:15:53 |amethyst: no, it looks like ice dragons use it as an ability while some other dragons use it as a spell 15:16:22 |amethyst: I'm not sure it's a bad thing, though 15:16:42 |amethyst: in any case, if they are supposed to work differently, I'd make them separate spells 15:19:06 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:03 -!- duralumin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:28:40 Well, it looks like what's happening for gammafunk_forest_yreds_foothold is that it's simply failing to place 9 times out of 10 15:28:40 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 15:39:34 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:49:57 -!- tkappleton has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:56:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:57:32 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:28 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:59:11 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 15:59:43 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:03:42 -!- Spectrina has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:10:26 -!- Aidenn_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18:43 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdou] 16:29:18 -!- gnsh has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:31:03 -!- gnsh has joined ##crawl-dev 16:32:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:35:36 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:46:40 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:47:37 <|amethyst> gammafunk: talk to mumra maybe, since it's his layout 16:47:47 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it's weird, I'm not seeing vetoes 16:48:02 |amethyst: Yeah, it just fails to place an awful lot. I'll ask mumra about it 16:48:11 <|amethyst> I see it selecting that map, then the layout 16:48:39 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:08 <|amethyst> I [DEPTH] Found random map gammafunk_forest_yreds_foothold for Forest:2 16:49:08 <|amethyst> [TAG] Found map layout_twisted_forest tagged 'layout' 16:49:09 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:49:14 <|amethyst> s/^I// 16:51:06 <|amethyst> that seems backwards 16:51:40 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:51:42 <|amethyst> in other branches I tried, the layout gets selected first by tag, *then* the vaults by depth 16:51:43 Yes, I've seen a few vaults get listed before the layout TAG 16:51:56 <|amethyst> but I don't know the layout stuff 16:52:09 <|amethyst> mumra does so yet more reason to bother him :) 16:52:32 <|amethyst> gammafunk: actually, file a bug on Mantis 16:52:40 |amethyst: ok, I'll do that 16:56:39 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:04:51 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:25 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 17:07:50 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:52 -!- punpun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:08:14 -!- Stelpa is now known as glad0s 17:08:47 -!- glad0s is now known as Stelpa 17:09:52 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:54 Is there any way to save messages in a debug build, or should I just use an ascii build and copy/paste? 17:11:12 The output I'm looking for doesn't show up as a milestone, so the morgue seems like it'd be no help 17:12:32 -!- Mandevil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:14:11 gammafunk: well, wehn you dump there's a list of the last few messages 17:14:27 where "few" is like, several hundred sometimes, maybe there's an option that sets it 17:14:46 ontoclasm: maybe that will work, thanks 17:15:06 !lg * ckiller=fire_crab 17:15:06 241. Hiermare the Purifying Gargoyle (L11 GrHe), worshipper of Elyvilon, blasted by a fire crab (blast of flame) in Volcano (volcano_pools) on 2013-08-25 03:49:49, with 9541 points after 10223 turns and 0:51:12. 17:15:12 !lg * ckiller=apocalypse_crab 17:15:12 75. silentsnack the Ducker (L1 SpAK), worshipper of Lugonu, slain by an apocalypse crab on Abyss:1 on 2013-08-31 19:50:25, with 30 points after 98 turns and 0:00:55. 17:15:22 !lg * ckiller=apocalypse_crab xl>5 17:15:23 29. zardo the Shatterer (L14 OgHu), worshipper of Okawaru, slain by an apocalypse crab on Abyss:1 on 2013-08-24 17:56:23, with 56915 points after 29737 turns and 1:13:49. 17:16:46 !lg * ckiller=starcursed_mass 17:16:47 552. silentsnack the Ducker (L1 SpAK), worshipper of Lugonu, blasted by a starcursed mass (accursed screaming) on Abyss:1 on 2013-08-31 20:02:22, with 20 points after 93 turns and 0:00:16. 17:19:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:19:36 !tell |amethyst when you have time could pull from dwants branch on git@gitorious.org:crawl/pubby-crawl.git and update experimental 17:19:37 buppy: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 17:20:17 hopefully I didn't screw it up too badly 17:21:43 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:26:23 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:36:57 SamB: how can I access a particular element of env.mgrid (ie, mgrd) or env.grid in gdb? 17:37:40 SamB: env.mgrid[64][18] doesn't work, neither does env.mgrid.mData[64][18], nor attempting a method call 17:38:43 <|amethyst> kilobyte: p env.mgrid[64][18] works here 17:38:44 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:39:13 kilobyte: hmm, I usually only have that sort of trouble when I try to watch something 17:39:18 -!- Aidenn has quit [Changing host] 17:39:31 |amethyst: Could not find operator[]. 17:39:34 and it's a *performance* problem then 17:40:07 -!- Sgeo has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 17:40:55 -!- Spectrina has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 17:41:05 kilobyte: and it works fine here too 17:41:25 are you sure you compiled it appropriately? 17:41:36 i.e., without optimization? 17:41:57 that was a live process, on a core I instead get: 17:41:59 One of the arguments you tried to pass to operator[] could not be converted to what the function wants. 17:42:14 SamB: -Og -ggdb 17:42:27 hmm 17:42:40 does that make sure to keep around out-of-line copies of inline functions then? 17:42:48 anyway try "p env.mgrid.mData[64].mData[18]" 17:43:05 that shouldn't need the method 17:43:38 same message, for both live and core 17:43:40 I've had to do this to get watches not to slow execution to a crawl 17:43:51 (different between them) 17:44:17 -!- duralumin_ is now known as duralumin 17:46:08 all I managed to get is the whole env.mgrid, but trying to find 64th row is rather tedious 17:46:42 oh 17:46:59 actually it's "p env.mgrid.mData.mData[64].mData[18]" 17:47:23 sorry, I forgot the one for FixedArray itself 17:47:35 oh, thanks! 17:48:17 kilobyte: you basically have to know how the templates are put together and find where the concrete data is stored 17:48:44 so you can avoid overloaded methods 17:49:08 -fkeep-inline-functions might avoid needing to do this except when setting watches, though 17:51:10 (it presumably wouldn't really help with core files though) 17:52:55 so -Og is worse than -O0 even though it's advertised as being meant for debugging? 17:53:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 17:54:11 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:54:11 it could just be a mistake that it doesn't enable that flag ... 17:54:41 lemme finish this run then try that flag 18:00:50 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01:07 -!- soundlus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:01:56 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04:03 !messages 18:04:04 No messages for TZer0. 18:09:24 hrm, this bug took me a while even with a reproducible save+RNG seed: Abyss morphing deep water into shallow water on your position when there's a submerged non-swimmer there 18:10:11 kilobyte: o_0!? 18:10:40 for some reason a bunch of monsters that "can't drown" won't ever enter deep water but if the Abyss morphs into deep water under them, they become submerged 18:11:37 monster::submerged() and monster::can_drown() 18:12:00 why don't we just veto shifts to deep water if anything is there? 18:12:39 not sure but this would happen also if that monster was confused 18:13:02 heck, in this case it even was 18:13:52 so the problem is not with morphing to deep but with morphing to shallow and that silly submerging without an ench 18:15:21 Some forest vaults fail to place consistently by gammafunk 18:16:55 what's even the point in that fake submerging? 18:17:13 if there's a merfolk in deep water, he is visible 18:17:34 if there's an abomination, it is somehow considered submerged 18:19:45 kilobyte: well do the aboms walk on the bottom? 18:24:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 18:25:07 looks like they can walk out, but not into another square of water 18:26:14 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:01 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:32:32 -!- myrmidette has left ##crawl-dev 18:35:08 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:37:38 -!- duralumin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:40:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:43:25 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:45:21 -!- Krakhan has quit [] 18:46:32 ..Why is monster abjuration announced as "Send 'em back where they came from!" instead of something more sensible like "The deep elf sorceror abjures your minions from the material world!" 18:48:00 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:50:32 because this way you would be able to see what's going on 18:51:04 yes 18:51:19 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 18:51:20 who wants information like "what does that mean" and "who did this" 18:51:21 that's silly 18:51:37 especially who wants to know "who did this to whom" 18:51:44 yeah man 18:51:52 "something happens to you" 18:52:08 "there is something and it hurts!" 18:52:10 "or possibly to your enemy, we're not really sure" 18:52:37 "you perforate!!" 18:53:05 "hits 'em somewhere" 18:53:56 SamB: upon adding -fkeep-inline-functions: 18:53:58 /usr/include/c++/4.8/cxxabi.h:692: error: undefined reference to 'vtable for __gnu_cxx::recursive_init_error' 18:54:02 /usr/bin/ld.gold: the vtable symbol may be undefined because the class is missing its key function 18:54:05 collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status 18:54:09 Now can you guess that the first is you getting slowed, the second is anything hitting you, the third being you hitting something specific - and the fourth being a bolt of fire hitting something? 18:54:14 kilobyte: oh dear 18:55:29 kilobyte: report a bug against libstdc++6 or possibly libstdc++6-4.8-dev 18:57:16 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:09:10 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:11:01 03kilobyte02 07* 0.13-a0-2908-gf214540: Check for monsters invading a player's personal space. 10(23 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f214540b719b 19:11:01 03kilobyte02 07* 0.13-a0-2909-g70bbdf6: Fix an obscure crash with submerged non-swimmers in the Abyss. 10(33 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=70bbdf6cf867 19:11:35 (How long before someone tries to create a personal space invader <_<) 19:13:16 (Tentacled monstrosities already exist.) 19:16:58 * kilobyte dons a brown paper bag. 19:17:58 * Grunt draws a scary face on the brown paper bag... 19:18:29 so.. D:10+ or Orc? 19:18:43 oops 19:18:47 wrong channel 19:18:51 doh 19:21:09 03kilobyte02 07* 0.13-a0-2910-g7a74111: Fix Abyss morphing being for all practical purposes disabled. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a74111b2095 19:25:24 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:20 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 19:29:59 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:39 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 19:35:18 -!- _dd has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:40:58 -!- myrmidette has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:08 (I'm pretty sure the header really shouldn't mention the existance of vtables that are hidden from the library ...) 19:41:20 fr: if I'm wielding a throwable weapon, I shouldn't have to unwield it before throwing it 19:41:51 myrmidette: we have that for returning stuff only 19:42:00 though often it won't, early on ... 19:51:17 bh: not sure if you're still around but i heard you're compiling a book of funny deaths and i have one you might like http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/lessens/morgue-lessens-20120825-184946.txt 19:52:16 i was shooting orbs at roxanne, she blinked me in and caused one of my orbs to hit me. then i panicked, randomly blinked my self, and got hit with my second orb. game over. 19:52:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:55:06 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57:31 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:58:44 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:30 lessens: ouch 20:02:06 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:02:29 well i was pretty steamed about it at the time, yeah, but in retrospect it's pretty funny 20:03:05 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:04:05 -!- anidude has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:11:59 -!- greatzebu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:14:43 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:19:18 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:22:05 -!- NekoRex has quit [Quit: "All the vain and ignorant will look up and shout 'Save us!', and I'll look down and whisper... 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