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05:04:36 zonin: i don't know if actual endlessless is possible, but you can pick an arbitrarily large number and make it that long 05:05:21 when they changed the length of elf to 3 floors, they added variables somewhere which are just "how many levels branch X has" 05:05:38 so you could just set the length of D to, like, 32000 05:05:45 and it'd be functionally endless 05:05:53 alright 05:06:05 can i do this stuff through just a simple config 05:06:11 or do i have to edit code and whatnot 05:06:18 -!- V38 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:06:35 actually, you came in literally one day after it became possible to do it via a sprint 05:07:15 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:07:18 a sprint? 05:07:55 dungeon sprint 05:08:05 like, the 10 rune challenge, rad sonja, etc 05:08:07 red* 05:08:17 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 05:08:18 that is interesting 05:08:20 oh i can make a custom one? 05:08:22 infinite zig time? 05:08:24 yes 05:08:36 and it's quite easy, it's just a text file 05:08:54 look in crawl/dat/des/sprint 05:09:04 and you can see how they look 05:09:17 which should i modify? 05:09:25 ill just edit one of them 05:09:28 yeah 05:09:37 keep a backup of it though :D 05:10:01 i don't know how to make sprint call the normal dungeon-creation algorithm but it has to be possible 05:10:02 probably any of them except for meatsprint would be easy to just throw some stairs into 05:10:27 presumably just change the map to one square of floor and add allow_dup 05:11:28 eh i wish i knew how to edit them correctly :p 05:12:01 is there any documentation 05:12:05 yeah 05:12:20 and actually, i just realized the multi-floor-sprint patch is on a branch 05:12:23 -!- valtern has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:12:24 and hasn't been merged yet 05:12:33 but it will be, probably within a few weeks 05:13:00 /doc/develop/levels 05:13:07 is the documentation you want 05:13:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:13:31 it deals with vaults, but a sprit is just a really huge, complex vault 05:13:43 that comprises the whole dungeon 05:13:55 arent the sprint ones all premade 05:13:56 not random 05:14:20 yes, but that's because they're tagged with "encompass" 05:14:44 which means "this vault is an entire floor, don't bother calling the normal dungeon builder" 05:19:20 i'd try making a few test ones before you embark on constructing a transfinite dungeon 05:19:25 xD 05:20:04 also did anyone ask "why" already 05:20:27 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:20:42 * ontoclasm shrugs 05:20:52 because you can? 05:20:59 well some roguelikes are endless 05:21:37 so currently right now its not possible ontoclasm? 05:21:55 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:21:59 well, not via a sprint; you could edit the code and make it happen in the normal game 05:22:07 but if you wait briefly it'll get a lot easier 05:22:32 would i have to go download the source and compile it and all that? 05:22:39 yeah 05:24:13 where exactly do i acquire that, im at http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl 05:24:35 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:26:50 if you hit commit log, on the right there's a button saying "download master as tar" 05:27:42 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:28:31 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 05:29:21 what do you use to edit this? 05:29:55 i just use, like, notepad 05:30:13 on that 10mb file? 05:30:14 lol 05:30:17 oh 05:30:21 no, you have to extract it >.< 05:30:46 well i extracted master out of master.gz 05:31:27 idk, i don't actually download it, i just have a git clone >.> 05:31:46 it should be a big pile of .cc files 05:32:59 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:33:31 the first question would be is this windows 05:33:37 yes 05:34:43 i installed git xD 05:36:41 docs/develop/git has some instructions in that case 05:38:48 oh god what is a public ssh key 05:39:39 haha 05:39:53 if you're not going to be commiting you shouldn't need one 05:40:18 oh well i was trying to get to clone repository on gitorious 05:40:33 is there just a link i can use 05:40:41 like on the Git Gui it says Source Location: 05:41:03 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:41:13 i tried using git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git 05:41:16 but it didnt do anything 05:41:41 i think you just want https://git.gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git 05:41:48 git:// is the secure one i think?? 05:42:02 i'm like the worst person to be helping with this since i barely understand it myself >.> 05:42:38 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:42:41 what im doing is probably rather pointless since I wont be able to understand what I get anyways 05:43:01 Powered by Death mutation not triggering correctly. by dck 05:43:24 i just thought somewhere i would see some sort of max level line and dungeon line that i could just edit xD 05:44:49 also you really wouldn't get much out of it 05:45:12 i mean i understand people wanting to tinker with this stuff but this particular one doesn't seem very fun 05:45:37 infinite crawl could make for a good sprint though, maybe? i'll mention it to st_ 05:46:35 could be cool 05:46:42 make all the levels much smaller than normal, see how far you can dive 05:47:09 i think somebody pushed a patch where sprints can define their own scoring schemes, so it could just be 'floors" 05:47:22 Yea it would need a different type of scoring system 05:49:22 maybe it was evilmike 05:49:33 for arena sprint 05:50:25 i tried some of the other modes out that come with crawl 05:50:38 and the first monster in most of them destroyed me 05:50:41 hah 05:50:42 how are they possible lol 05:50:57 you start with a bunch of stuff 05:50:58 use it 05:50:59 what "modes" 05:51:05 you mean the sprint maps? 05:51:15 yeah, most of them give you wands etc. to kickstart you 05:51:31 alternate option: play a berserker 05:51:36 zigsprint is initially pretty easy 05:52:18 yea ive been using berserker to start off 05:52:30 what do i set my skill distribution to for a zerker? 05:53:56 Apparently answering "N" to "Really unwield [vampiric weapon]?" goes to "Wield which item ... ?" 05:54:16 And if you feel stupid you can keep mashing N and spam those messages nice and proper. 05:55:09 And so the question is "why does it ask what weapon to wield after you said you don't want to unwield your vampiric weapon". 05:59:30 -!- Medar has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:00:29 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:03 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:19 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:01 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:17:14 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:17:52 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:18:54 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:19:35 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:49 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:27:14 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:27:54 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:03 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 06:30:48 Bloax: iirc its because the wield code is fucking stupid 06:32:52 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:34:53 Hooray. 06:36:48 it comes up occasionally 06:48:36 -!- darktwinge has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:17 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:25 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:51:07 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:52:10 -!- Aidenn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:55:52 -!- ainsophy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:09 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:02:48 -!- CaptainHaddock has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:19:56 should the sprint piety multiplier also multiply the rate at which piety decays 07:21:23 -!- zonin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:27:04 -!- ainsophy_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:28:04 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:28:13 -!- mnoqy has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:32 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:30:36 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:04:07 -!- neuwiz has quit [Excess Flood] 08:05:33 <|amethyst> !tell zonin if you want to change it for the regular game, edit branch-data.h and change 27 to something larger, *but* whether in the main game or sprint, there are likely to be changes needed 08:05:35 |amethyst: OK, I'll let zonin know. 08:06:38 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:06:42 <|amethyst> !tell zonin in particular, I'm not sure if mon-pick would work once you go deeper than 30-something, since it uses depth to determine what to place (see pop_d[] in mon-pick-data.h) 08:06:43 |amethyst: OK, I'll let zonin know. 08:11:32 -!- CaptainHaddock has joined ##crawl-dev 08:16:07 -!- ais523_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:16:49 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:17:55 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:19:19 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19:36 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:13 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:22:27 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 08:23:41 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:26:58 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:27:20 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:27:35 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:27:39 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:27:43 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:27:46 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:27:51 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:27:56 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:00 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:03 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:08 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:11 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:14 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:16 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:19 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:23 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:27 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:35 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:38 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:38 <|amethyst> !tell TZer0 any way we could get a copy of foonesh's save? It seems to be corrupt or buggy in some way and the backtraces aren't all that useful 08:28:40 |amethyst: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 08:28:41 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 08:28:45 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:29:37 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 08:29:56 <|amethyst> !tell TZer0 easiest would be to copy it into the dgldir/dumps directory and give us the corresponding /saves/ URL 08:29:57 |amethyst: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 08:30:20 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:33:03 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2649-g928cd1f: Add option 'autofight_fire_stop'. 10(13 minutes ago, 2 files, 23+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=928cd1f55eee 08:33:05 -!- Zermako has quit [] 08:33:05 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:36:27 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 08:37:55 -!- Burer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:38:30 -!- tesudzi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:39:19 -!- Spectrina has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 08:40:35 -!- duckroller has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:42:05 why is that an option? 08:42:18 you realize that you have to remove an option if you add one, right? :P 08:44:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:49:04 <|amethyst> it didn't seem like something that should be on by default 08:51:32 it should not 08:51:47 it's... pretty weird all around, though 08:54:31 <|amethyst> bmfx wanted it because he prefers the ammo to land closer for easier pickup, and to avoid water. I personally use f. usually for the same reasons 08:55:14 <|amethyst> Or, rather, he said that's why he didn't use tab to shoot 08:56:35 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:56:48 i use f. a lot too, and with spells as well 08:57:13 i see the rationale, but it's not something i'd probably ever enable by default 08:57:34 of course it's an option, so no harm 08:58:12 <|amethyst> When I say "usually" I mean over 90% of the time, so it is something I'll use (if I remember to press tab) 08:58:43 <|amethyst> Could undocument it if the cognitive burden is too high :) 08:58:53 -!- Cronoth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:58:59 <|amethyst> And it's not mentioned (commented out) in the config 08:59:56 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:01:09 -!- steve2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:05:33 undocumented options are a pretty dumb thing to have 09:08:57 <|amethyst> Speaking of which, maybe I should make this thing into a real option and document it 09:08:58 i mean undocumented options intended for users, the save editing stuff being undocumented is obviously fine 09:09:00 <|amethyst> %git c2c73efe 09:09:00 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-a0-919-gc2c73ef: Allow tuning the autofight monster prioritization. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2c73efecfad 09:09:34 <|amethyst> alefury: the save editing stuff is a little better documented than it used to be, but it is still hidden 09:09:55 <|amethyst> %git f96da2a8 09:09:55 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-a0-1455-gf96da2a: Improve -edit-save help. 10(9 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f96da2a85329 09:12:48 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 09:12:51 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 09:18:16 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. 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Unless there's water behind. But if there's water under the target, yet there's either dry land or other enemies behind... 10:12:48 s/hit/miss/, duh 10:13:09 s for the second "hit" only, too... 10:13:39 -!- Villadelfia has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:15 -!- Villadelfia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:16:27 -!- Villadelfia_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:45 this seems like something that's right on the border between the interface and the gameplay 10:17:58 -!- Villadelfia_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:18:07 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:18:09 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:38 -!- Villadelfia has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:46 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 10:19:41 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:20:11 <|amethyst> kilobyte: usually in that case I find myself manually lining up the shot and using f. on the furthest monster 10:20:15 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:30 sounds like a good default 10:20:32 <|amethyst> kilobyte: but I guess in a straight corridor at least tab would work just fine for that purpose 10:20:41 too bad, writing any complex logic in lua is pretty hard 10:21:43 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:23:28 -!- Villadelfia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:23:34 -!- Villadelfia_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:33 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:29:04 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2650-g174dd5a: Don't send empty webtiles chat messages (#7448) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=174dd5a0a251 10:34:55 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 10:35:52 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:37:17 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39:40 -!- Villadelfia has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:54 -!- thabersack has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:42:19 Sorry to bother you, but could that "ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11)" be caused by a draconian that followed me out of a ziggurat? 10:42:23 -!- Villadelfia_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:45:58 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:45:59 -!- Villadelfia has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:48:36 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:17 Download link for OSX console is broken by timotheus 10:53:50 <|amethyst> foonesh: not sure... could you do a save backup? 10:54:14 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:54:23 <|amethyst> foonesh: from the ssh interface, select your version then do (A)dvanced -> (b)ackup -> (n)ormal 10:54:32 amethyst: I will try to do it 10:54:35 <|amethyst> foonesh: and copy-paste the URL here 10:54:54 <|amethyst> I have to go now, but somebody will look at it (maybe me this weekend) 10:54:56 I use webtiles though so it might take a while. I'm on it 10:55:04 alright thanks 10:55:42 <|amethyst> foonesh: also, when you do, !tell tzer0 (the CLAN server admin) that you did because I asked him to make a copy and if you do that he won't need to 10:56:33 roger that 10:58:38 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:59:20 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 10:59:33 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:06:16 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8956 11:06:21 only the first post is relevant 11:07:17 amethyst: are you still there? 11:07:47 nvm 11:07:56 alefury: I agree, this sounds like a bad change 11:07:57 !lm . sprint crash -log 11:07:58 3. MarvinPA, XL13 FeCr, T:7920 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/MarvinPA/crash-MarvinPA-20101014-151308.txt 11:09:06 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 11:09:15 damn sorry 11:10:01 -!- CaptainHaddock has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:02 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 22.0/20130626043228]] 11:10:43 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:11:29 -!- Burer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:13:00 !tell tzer0 Hey, I was told by amethyst to provide a save backup, since my game broke, so here it is: http://crawl.lantea.net:8081/saves//foonesh-crawl-git-56e3d78c6f-130809-1609.tar.bz2 11:13:01 foonesh: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 11:15:01 !tell tzer0 I did it again because I'm silly, and this time it's http://crawl.lantea.net:8081/saves//foonesh-crawl-git-56e3d78c6f-130809-1613.tar.bz2 Sorry! 11:15:02 foonesh: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 11:25:18 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:26:11 -!- Burer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:58 -!- Adder_ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:41:13 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:15 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:37 -!- inpho has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:01:26 -!- OneEyedJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:08:52 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2650-g174dd5a (34) 12:11:14 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 12:11:25 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:11:58 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:11 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:16:12 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 12:17:52 -!- SchwaWarrior has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:20:57 -!- browncustard has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:22 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:26 -!- blackcustard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:24:09 -!- browncustard is now known as blackcustard 12:24:36 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: oh god how do i internets] 12:28:16 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:24 -!- CaptainHaddock has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 12:34:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:35 -!- duckroller has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:51:35 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:35 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:54:08 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 12:54:09 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:55:29 -!- ahahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:57:07 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:07 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:58:29 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:55 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:00:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:27 !messages 13:01:29 (1/4) |amethyst said (4h 32m 50s ago): any way we could get a copy of foonesh's save? It seems to be corrupt or buggy in some way and the backtraces aren't all that useful 13:01:34 !messages 13:01:35 (1/3) |amethyst said (4h 31m 38s ago): easiest would be to copy it into the dgldir/dumps directory and give us the corresponding /saves/ URL 13:01:37 !messages 13:01:38 (1/2) foonesh said (1h 48m 37s ago): Hey, I was told by amethyst to provide a save backup, since my game broke, so here it is: http://crawl.lantea.net:8081/saves//foonesh-crawl-git-56e3d78c6f-130809-1609.tar.bz2 13:01:39 !messages 13:01:40 (1/1) foonesh said (1h 46m 37s ago): I did it again because I'm silly, and this time it's http://crawl.lantea.net:8081/saves//foonesh-crawl-git-56e3d78c6f-130809-1613.tar.bz2 Sorry! 13:02:35 |amethyst: shouldn't this be sufficient? 13:02:53 -!- n0Tf4Ir has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:04:58 TZer0: it is sufficient, |amethyst told foonesh to tell you so that you wouldn't waste your time getting another save backup 13:05:14 and Henzell's numbered the messages in reverse order for some reason 13:07:57 1Okay. 13:08:01 lol 13:08:21 I like things like "problems!" "Disregard! Problem is fixed!" 13:08:24 :D 13:11:28 -!- ReteAZ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:14:55 henzell always says message 1 of (total #) 13:16:32 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 13:16:44 oh, I see 13:17:09 -!- wya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:17:42 and then deletes it, so the next one is also message 1 13:18:03 yeah, I figured it from there 13:21:00 -!- ais523_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:27:47 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:34:00 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 13:34:36 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:35:37 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:38 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:18 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:34 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:43:21 -!- moxian has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:50:15 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:12 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 13:57:26 -!- SaintWacko has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:58:08 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 14:10:26 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:11:34 <|amethyst> TZer0: looks like your WEB_SAVEDUMP_URL needs to have the :8081 removed 14:11:56 <|amethyst> TZer0: Also, if you get rid of the trailing slash the URLs won't have the double-slash (not that it hurts) 14:12:25 -!- g4spr0m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:14:50 dck (L17 GhWr) (D (Sprint)) 14:16:04 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:23:51 <|amethyst> foonesh's crash definitely has a MONS_NO_MONSTER in the_lost_ones, along with a number of starcursed masses 14:24:21 <|amethyst> I bring up the ScMs because we've seen problems with dead ones before 14:27:37 <|amethyst> there are several good monsters after the bad one in the list 14:34:05 <|amethyst> foonesh: looks like #7146; I put a note there with a (dev-only) link to your save backup 14:40:22 |amethyst: Thanks 14:43:40 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:44:20 <|amethyst> unfortunately it's not so easy to debug, because by the time the dead monster made it to the save file, all information about the monster's previous existence was thrown out 14:46:10 <|amethyst> we could disable/work around the assertion, but doing that before fixing the problem that caused the dead monster to be there would just hide future occurrences of the bug 14:46:14 I see. Well, if it is at all possible, you could just delete the save 14:46:30 <|amethyst> TZer0 can do that 14:46:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.13-a0-2651-gf61ad0b: Remove deep dwarf scions, artificers and necromancers 10(3 hours ago, 37 files, 86+ 293-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f61ad0bcab06 14:46:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.13-a0-2652-g0ac5afd: Rename unborn deep dwarf to unborn, change glyph to L 10(3 hours ago, 23 files, 49+ 53-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ac5afdac4c1 14:46:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.13-a0-2653-g1f5cbb7: Remove an unnecessary pluralisation case 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f5cbb7e07e5 14:47:25 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:53:24 rip dwarven race 14:55:24 foonesh (L26 GrGl) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_type(f.mons.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 1599 failed. (D:11) 14:55:39 whoops i missclicked the 0.12 15:00:22 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:41 -!- Jayrays has quit [] 15:03:36 -!- g4spr0m has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:08:04 <|amethyst> foonesh: if you do want your save removed or at least moved out of the way, let TZer0 know, and mention that it's in 0.12 so he knows which directory to find it in 15:10:07 |amethyst: Alright, I'll do that. It's in trunk btw, I'm just playing 0.12 in the meantime 15:11:34 <|amethyst> oh 15:11:56 <|amethyst> !lm foonesh crash -log 15:11:57 47. foonesh, XL26 GrGl, T:58925 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/foonesh/crash-foonesh-20130809-195522.txt 15:13:05 That doesn't change anything, I imagine? 15:13:06 <|amethyst> foonesh: mention that it's crawl-git-56e3d78c6f then 15:13:10 alright 15:13:19 -!- SenoraRaton has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:14:06 <|amethyst> there's a separate directory for each release of trunk, so providing that info saves him from having to search all those directories... it's a one-liner to do so, but still :) 15:14:21 |amethyst: I should just use !tell, right? 15:15:01 <|amethyst> yeah 15:15:15 <|amethyst> some more info: the monster in question was in transit to the abyss 15:16:10 !tell Tzer0 Hey, if it would be possible I'd like to ask you to delete that buggy save, or perhaps move it somewhere safe, in case the issue does get resolved. The save is in crawl-git-56e3d78c6f 15:16:11 foonesh: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 15:16:14 <|amethyst> have you or monsters you're fighting done any banishing? 15:16:28 <|amethyst> possibly on a different level 15:16:35 <|amethyst> but probably fairly recently 15:16:40 It is possible, I escaped a ziggurat with draconians 15:16:49 and those guys banish I recall 15:16:55 <|amethyst> hm 15:17:13 <|amethyst> the thing is, if it was an invalid monster type stored there, you should have gotten an error. 15:17:19 <|amethyst> err 15:17:28 <|amethyst> an error on the *first* save 15:17:28 I remember I got some strange message 15:17:30 <|amethyst> not on the load 15:17:30 a while ago 15:17:30 they don't banish in trunk 15:17:33 when in abyss 15:17:42 But I can't remember what was it.. 15:17:52 <|amethyst> so it must have been hit points == 0 15:17:58 <|amethyst> err, <= 15:18:51 <|amethyst> are there cases where things with no hit points could be KILL_BANISHED ? 15:18:51 The message I mentioned concerned a wretched star I believe, it was some bug related to it 15:19:00 <|amethyst> hm 15:20:21 But donąt look too much into that, I might have mistaken the monster.. 15:20:30 don't 15:20:31 * 15:21:10 |amethyst: maybe getting killed with a distort weapon? 15:21:22 seems unlikely 15:21:33 <|amethyst> possibly, but foonesh's weapon was elec 15:21:45 well, something else might have had such a weapon 15:21:57 <|amethyst> foonesh: any allies? 15:22:07 nope 15:22:25 apart from elementals, that is 15:22:33 <|amethyst> hm 15:22:51 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:00 <|amethyst> elementals count :) 15:24:22 <|amethyst> spectral weapon? 15:24:45 would anybody mind if i added a dungeon exit to linesprint 15:24:46 no, didnt use that 15:24:53 <|amethyst> hm 15:25:01 <|amethyst> I do wonder if needs_abyss_transit needs to consider spectral weapon the same as battlesphere; but I guess that's not the issue 15:25:43 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:26:05 ontoclasm: what do you mean? 15:26:21 <|amethyst> I think ontoclasm wants to remove the orbrun 15:26:37 currently you have to carry the orb back which takes a ridiculous length of time 15:26:38 the linesprint orb run is very much intentionally designed 15:26:39 the orb run is the whole point imo 15:26:49 hm 15:26:50 it's exciting and wonderful! 15:27:04 I think a policy of minimal interference with sprint design is a good thing since they're so standalone, maybe take it up with st_ if you feel very strongly? 15:27:17 well, i don't care that much 15:27:25 it's just horrific watching people do it 15:27:30 what 15:27:35 watching people do it is the best part! 15:27:53 hah 15:27:54 please remove it, haha ^.^ 15:28:19 almost as good as watching people die to linesprint convokers 15:37:25 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: oh god how do i internets] 15:42:45 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:46:01 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 15:47:30 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:49:14 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:50:14 -!- Pisano has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:56:57 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 16:00:17 -!- dosman711 is now known as dosman711` 16:03:47 -!- orionstein is now known as orionstein_away 16:07:46 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:08:20 -!- heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:22 -!- halv has quit [Client Quit] 16:11:29 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:17:27 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:24:10 -!- OneEyedJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:25:28 -!- tortuga has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:27:00 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 16:28:58 -!- inpho has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:30:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 16:33:46 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:37:51 -!- darktwinge is now known as Twinge 16:38:07 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 16:41:16 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:36 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:04 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:00:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:55 -!- marcmagus has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:02:54 -!- BlackSheep_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:03:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:03:50 the unborn commit is causing problems 17:04:33 or do I just need to recompile? 17:06:16 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:07:04 you'll definitely need to recompile since otherwise there's be vaults with invalid monsters in them, yeah 17:07:18 hopefully it works after that, i even remembered to test it in both tiles and console for once :P 17:07:32 my bad 17:07:50 didn't think it through 17:08:26 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:12:29 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:20:22 works now 17:21:04 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:00 -!- KorpsDeKrieg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:23:12 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:23:13 -!- BlackSheep_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:24:03 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:16 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:24:17 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:27:31 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:33:01 -!- sacje has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:34:33 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:39:02 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:44:57 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:47:10 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Excess Flood] 17:47:45 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:48:25 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:38 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:50 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:54:15 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:55:04 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:57:41 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 18:05:00 -!- NekoRex has quit [Quit: "All the vain and ignorant will look up and shout 'Save us!', and I'll look down and whisper... 'Nyo.'"] 18:06:29 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:09:05 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130730113002]] 18:10:11 -!- eith has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:13:52 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14:47 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.13-a0-2654-g77aadb4: Don't restore strength on Ghouls by eating chunks 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=77aadb4adfa4 18:17:22 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:26 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:20:38 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:21:49 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:25:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:27:34 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:20 -!- Quashie has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:37:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 18:37:36 -!- Quashie has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:38:57 -!- Quashie has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:40:14 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:42 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:42:49 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:49:24 -!- halv has quit [Client Quit] 18:54:21 SamB: (from debian-devel) that devteam faction who's afraid of autotools is all inactive for years. Rewriting the makefile shouldn't cause many complaints. 18:54:37 cool 18:55:06 now we just need to find someone who isn't afraid of screwing up the transition 18:55:23 I'm on a train to debconf, though 18:55:57 with limited battery :( 18:56:21 well presumably they won't suddenly become active before you get back from debconf anyway 18:56:48 -!- Cronoth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:57:38 my attention span is too short for any hopes for me remembering to do it :( 18:59:40 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:03:15 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:05:16 kilobyte: what is your username 19:07:26 also why do we have a + sign in front of the link command 19:08:32 SamB: what username? 19:09:08 SamB: + before link is needed for LTO 19:09:26 SamB: otherwise make wouldn't let it use the jobserver 19:09:38 I'm proposing to make the Makefile remind you about this task 19:10:56 -!- Gotham has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:12:45 to do this it would be helpful to know some piece of information to test, like your username 19:13:22 the one you use when you build crawl on your own system 19:21:44 -!- Grathtarg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:23:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:26:27 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 19:28:19 -!- johnstein has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:32:38 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:05 Basil (L27 TrCK) (D:1) 19:37:23 What the 19:37:38 I tried to chug berserk in pig form. 19:39:01 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:39:28 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:40:28 !lm basil crash -log 19:40:29 3. Basil, XL27 TrCK, T:71597 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Basil/crash-Basil-20130810-003705.txt 19:41:31 iiinteresting 19:47:16 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:48:04 Basil: what were you wielding before you turned into a pig/ 19:48:54 aha, meat rations 19:49:06 very interesting 19:50:28 I remember hearing about this before 19:51:13 yeah, this is an operator presence bug 19:51:22 lulz 19:51:46 Already on mantis, right? 19:51:58 i dunno, i'm just looking at the code 19:52:26 er, operator precedence 19:53:47 i have to head home now. if you can't find a mantis bug, file one? i'll upload a patch to it once i'm home 19:59:44 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03:45 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:06:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:51 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 20:11:10 -!- mnoqy has quit [Quit: hello] 20:12:56 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:39 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:46 -!- Xiberia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:24:55 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 20:29:54 -!- SenoraRaton has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:32:22 -!- tholmes has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:35:14 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:36 Since the distinction between "deep dwarf" and "deep dwarf artificer" is gone now, does that mean it would make sense for all deep dwarves to spawn with various wands now? 20:55:32 Basil: aha, #7382 20:55:40 johnnyzero (L16 LOWn) ERROR in 'mon-act.cc' at line 2457: infinite handle_monsters() loop, mons[0 of 30] is Bogward (D:18) 20:55:54 <|amethyst> Bogward Ho! 20:56:18 Strange that it happened with pigform but not iceform. 20:56:59 it probably has something to do with weapon swap interruption, that only happens in pig form/bat form 20:58:40 <|amethyst> weapon swap interruption as in butchery? 20:59:37 the weapon swap interruption check in player.cc:berserk_check_wielded_weapon 20:59:52 <|amethyst> ohh 20:59:57 <|amethyst> hm, that might be my fault 21:00:06 right now i've fixed it by making it say "do you really want to berserk while wielding nothing?" 21:00:18 though looking at the bug on mantis it might also be reasonable to mention form 21:01:00 FR: "Your vision goes red and you go hog wild!" 21:01:15 blackcustard: that's pretty darn funny 21:01:18 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:01:26 though I suspect it won't translate 21:01:29 <|amethyst> oh, looks like it's not my fault 21:01:33 yeah, not at all 21:01:50 err, in answer to bh 21:02:40 -!- sacje has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:02:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:57 hm, should we ask "really berserk?" for all non-normal forms, or just the ones that can't wield? 21:11:51 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:12:01 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:12:13 <|amethyst> oh, it is my fault 21:12:18 <|amethyst> %git bb2f8dbb 21:12:20 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-a0-1687-gbb2f8db: Don't copy the player's weapon in the berserk check. 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb2f8dbb0929 21:12:40 <|amethyst> I missed that the || you.attribute[] was misindented 21:14:09 well, it's correctly indented. :P 21:14:29 <|amethyst> it wasn't before and after bb2f8dbb 21:14:32 <|amethyst> it was 21:14:47 <|amethyst> if (weapon.defined() && !is_melee_weapon(weapon) 21:14:48 <|amethyst> || you.attribute[ATTR_WEAPON_SWAP_INTERRUPTED]) 21:14:59 <|amethyst> oh, never mind 21:15:06 <|amethyst> it wasn't *after* bb2f8dbb 21:15:06 -!- Virigoth has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:15:13 <|amethyst> never mind 21:15:14 it's misparenthesized after bb2f8dbb 21:15:18 <|amethyst> yeah 21:15:25 <|amethyst> I was misreading the diff 21:15:51 <|amethyst> I missed that it was correctly indented :) 21:16:42 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:56 hahaha, being berserk in tree form is silly 21:17:14 ANGRY TREES 21:17:21 !lg * ckaux=angry_trees 21:17:22 225. casual the Executioner (L22 LOFi), worshipper of Okawaru, blasted by a spriggan druid (angry trees) on Forest:5 on 2013-07-22 19:54:50, with 417870 points after 60129 turns and 3:14:17. 21:17:25 i'd be scared 21:19:32 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2655-gb2bc1a6: Fix a raging bat crash (GrandiloquentGentleman, Zannick) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2bc1a6fda33 21:19:58 yeah, i have a patch for that incoming 21:20:07 note basil's crash; it is not a null-pointer 21:20:27 <|amethyst> where's basil's crash? 21:20:32 !lm basil crash -log 21:20:32 3. Basil, XL27 TrCK, T:71597 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Basil/crash-Basil-20130810-003705.txt 21:21:08 !lm POOPYBUTT crash milestone~~ASSERT\(!invalid_monster_type\( -tv:channel=crashtvvvv:x0.5: 50. BOOPYPUTT, XL9 HOPr, T:8513 (milestone) cancel requested for crashtvvvv (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 21:21:12 !lm POOPYBUTT crash milestone~~ASSERT\(!invalid_monster_type\( -tv:channel=crashtvvvv:x0.5: 50. BOOPYPUTT, XL9 HOPr, T:8513 (milestone) requested for crashtvvvv (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 21:21:19 opps sorry 21:21:31 tabbed over to read and forgot to tab back to my sequell window 21:22:05 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:22:15 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:22:46 <|amethyst> Zannick: that one is a null pointer 21:22:51 <|amethyst> Zannick: this == 0x0 21:22:59 oh 21:23:06 <|amethyst> (just checked the core) 21:23:21 <|amethyst> though I guess you're right 21:23:21 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 21:23:23 i am just not familiar with c++ idioms, then :) 21:23:30 <|amethyst> we shouldn't try to print that if it's not defined 21:23:50 thinking that wpn->defined would hit the null pointer rather than call first 21:23:58 oh, i guess what it does is reasonable 21:24:01 (c++) 21:25:05 -!- OneEyedJack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:27:18 <|amethyst> I'm not sure under what situations the weapon can be present yet undefined (OBJ_UNASSIGNED or quantity <= 0) 21:27:51 <|amethyst> I mean, situations that don't indicate a bug 21:27:59 what if you wield a ration and then eat it? 21:28:32 |amethyst: why are you limiting yourself to the ones that DON'T indicate a bug? 21:28:48 <|amethyst> because if they all do, it should be an assert rather than a condition 21:30:18 i'm looking in the dead monster / MONS_NO_MONSTER in transit list bug ... aiming to figure out how a dead monster is getting in that list 21:30:34 but in the mean time ... why do we marshall dead monsters as MONS_NO_MONSTER anyway? 21:30:46 <|amethyst> blackcustard: maybe it's dying while it's on the list 21:30:53 i mean, successfully saving and creating a corrupt save is a really bad failure mode 21:30:54 not the prettiest of patches, but... 21:30:55 <|amethyst> shouldn't happen, but 21:31:02 because it blows away the player's last save too 21:31:16 |amethyst: yeah. that's a possibility too 21:31:19 <|amethyst> blackcustard: maybe to save space when marshalling the monster array? 21:31:50 o i see. we marshall everything in the list 21:31:52 <|amethyst> it's a generic feature of marshallMonster: NO_MONSTER is marshalled only as the type 21:31:55 the menv list this time 21:32:14 <|amethyst> menv list and in this case the_lost_ones 21:32:56 <|amethyst> but I suspect this is quite similar to ed92a994 21:32:58 that makes sense; unfortunate consequences though :S 21:32:58 Okay, time to do a couple of adjustments I've been meaning to do for a while. 21:33:04 %git ed92a994 21:33:05 07blackcustard02 {|amethyst} * 0.13-a0-2578-ged92a99: Fix a Kirke crash by deporkalating transiting hogs correctly. 10(10 days ago, 3 files, 29+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed92a994f664 21:33:09 * Grunt twiddles his thumbs as Crawl rebuilds to check that they work as intended... 21:33:28 o that one. yeah i was about to check that fin effects stuff 21:33:37 * Grunt envisions mean-spirited people saying "Grunt twiddled as Crawl burned". <_< 21:37:48 two! two patches! ah ah ah. 21:38:40 lol @ the count 21:41:13 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:41:26 if i upload one more before either gets committed/rejected, it'll be a new personal record! 21:43:02 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:44:59 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2655-gb2bc1a6 21:45:12 (can someone review my patches? kthx) 21:45:14 -!- sacje has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:46:41 03Grunt02 07* 0.13-a0-2656-g38856ef: Small adjustments to a couple of encompass vaults. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=38856ef5bb66 21:46:51 Zannick: link me? 21:47:00 <|amethyst> Zannick: err 21:47:12 <|amethyst> Zannick: should it really prompt for berserking in things like dragon form? 21:47:19 or if your UC is high 21:47:41 open to debate 21:47:52 i did ask out loud earlier 21:47:59 <|amethyst> also, doesn't yours crash if you're empty-handed? 21:48:20 <|amethyst> oh, never mind 21:48:23 <|amethyst> misread the patch again 21:49:11 the other patch is on #7435 21:50:11 -!- axujen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:50:46 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:37 <|amethyst> Zannick: I think I will pass on the #7382 patch 21:56:45 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:54 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:57:03 |amethyst: shall i modify it to just include the "nothing" bit? 21:58:02 i figure that's still warranted since you get a weapon switch to nothing for butchering 21:58:43 <|amethyst> well 21:58:53 I thought we didn't actually switch anymore 21:59:02 <|amethyst> the problem is that the "wield a potion, then enter dragon form" case also has that attribute set 21:59:39 <|amethyst> but that's in effect no different from just "enter dragon form" 21:59:51 <|amethyst> I'm not sure why that's the case 21:59:52 ah 22:00:19 <|amethyst> I mean, why ATTR_WEAPON_SWAP_INTERRUPTED is true then 22:00:41 <|amethyst> the patches in #7436 go at least part of the way towards removing that 22:02:50 hm, it's explicitly set in _remove_equipment 22:03:35 <|amethyst> oh 22:04:03 <|amethyst> I guess so it will ask about swapping back when you leave the form 22:06:46 <|amethyst> which makes me think even more that we should not check that attribute when wpn is null 22:11:22 * Zannick nods 22:13:04 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:16:53 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:17:21 -!- pelotron_ has quit [Quit: ~Internet()] 22:21:03 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:21:18 <|amethyst> Zannick: do you think it needs a clear_subvault_stack() at the end too? 22:22:27 it could but i didn't feel it was necessary since it's called before every other attempt at level/vault generation 22:23:29 <|amethyst> ah, okay... since the subvaults only get actually-used when the map is successfully placed 22:24:41 yeah, that's the key part of that bug, is that it's only when they're left in the temp-used stack that I added a while ago to fix the double silver rune issue 22:24:56 03Zannick02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.13-a0-2657-gc1edc70: Clear the subvault stack on each placement attempt 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 6+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1edc7049bdf 22:25:04 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:25:49 :) thanks 22:26:02 -!- Silurio1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:27:21 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.12 22:31:13 <|amethyst> kilobyte: in #7445, could you get a backtrace from gdb and post it? 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