00:05:45 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2606-g170388b (34) 00:06:27 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.13-a0-2606-g170388b (34) 00:13:47 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2606-g170388b (34) 00:16:05 Hmm, it seems that mislead didn't change anything for me 00:16:46 Skeletons are supposed to look different under "misled", right? 00:18:12 <|amethyst> yes, they're supposed to 00:19:23 Is there any way to start footv on the first sighting of a unique? 00:19:55 step 1: make crawl report a milestone for spotting a unique 00:20:06 Damn. 00:20:15 I'll figure things out after I kill him. 00:20:17 <|amethyst> you could get the turn number from ?: and pass that to -tv 00:20:38 Oh that will work 00:20:47 I'll submit the bug report in a bit. 00:21:16 <|amethyst> the timestamps/seeking aren't very precise so you might need to move forward or backward a bit from there 00:21:49 <|amethyst> I mean "coarse-grained" not "inaccurate" 00:22:59 <|amethyst> !lm basil uniq=mara -tv 00:23:00 22. Basil, XL18 DgCj, T:81642 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 00:24:33 <|amethyst> !lm basil uniq=mara -tv:<2 00:24:33 22. Basil, XL18 DgCj, T:81642 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 00:24:41 -!- Momento has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:25:23 <|amethyst> !lm basil uniq=mara -tv:cancel 00:25:24 22. Basil, XL18 DgCj, T:81642 (milestone) cancel requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 00:25:33 <|amethyst> !lm basil uniq=mara -tv:<2:cancel 00:25:34 22. Basil, XL18 DgCj, T:81642 (milestone) cancel requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 00:26:01 <|amethyst> !lm basil uniq=mara -tv: 22. Basil, XL18 DgCj, T:81642 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 00:26:44 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 00:29:11 Almost there 00:29:58 That stone giant skelly 00:30:06 Remains one after mislead ends 00:30:45 So ~T:80000-80030 00:31:26 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:31:42 <|amethyst> oh 00:31:49 <|amethyst> I think it's because you changed level 00:31:55 Huh 00:32:07 Should I report it or is it already in or is it not a bug 00:32:27 <|amethyst> oh, no, never mind 00:32:29 <|amethyst> that wasn't it 00:32:41 <|amethyst> it's probably worth reporting 00:32:47 I did change level in case that makes a difference 00:33:21 <|amethyst> hm 00:33:23 <|amethyst> well 00:33:51 <|amethyst> things can't be mislead as skeletons, zombies, simulacra, or spectral things 00:34:14 <|amethyst> so it sounds like the problem is that the skeleton wasn't being misled at all 00:34:30 Hmm, did that centaur warrior seem fast to you 00:34:31 <|amethyst> this could be related to the crash we've been seeing related to mislead 00:34:41 <|amethyst> do a dump 00:34:51 <|amethyst> %dump Basil 00:34:51 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Basil/Basil.txt 00:35:32 <|amethyst> still an old one 00:35:44 <|amethyst> you can check whether you killed any centaur warriors on D:21 00:35:45 -!- CreepingCrawled has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36:13 Problem is that I didn't kill it 00:36:18 <|amethyst> oh 00:36:23 * SamB wonders why we even have broad axes 00:36:30 I walked past it 00:36:44 <|amethyst> can you do a save backup? 00:37:03 broad axes are good... 00:37:04 https://dobrazupa.org/saves/Basil-crawl-git-811f1deea9-130804-0536.tar.bz2 00:37:11 elliott: are they? 00:37:20 sure 00:37:37 admittedly the two-handers are better 00:37:39 although less so these days :p 00:38:08 the 2handers lost more with the cleave change than the onehanders, for sure 00:38:09 <|amethyst> Basil: yes, you still have a centaur warrior with a broad axe on D:21 00:38:26 It seems that mislead was not working at all then. 00:38:48 <|amethyst> ahh 00:38:52 <|amethyst> let me test something 00:38:56 <|amethyst> I think I know the issue 00:39:42 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:42 <|amethyst> yep 00:40:18 <|amethyst> Mislead affects only: 1. monsters that were on the level when it was cast 2. newly-placed monsters 00:40:34 <|amethyst> you returned to an existing level, so the monsters didn't get updated for mislead 00:41:15 Put it on Mantis then? 00:41:19 <|amethyst> yeah 00:41:28 <|amethyst> though sadly it's probably not related to the crash 00:41:38 Alrighty. Thanks for helping. 00:42:25 <|amethyst> also, end_mislead worries me 00:42:31 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:37 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:19 <|amethyst> or, rather, I'm not sure why off-level monsters don't stay mislead 00:43:24 <|amethyst> since their props won't be deleted 00:43:28 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:02 <|amethyst> oh 00:45:09 <|amethyst> %git 5779077 00:45:10 07kilobyte02 * 0.12-a0-3063-g5779077: Drop stale misleads from old saves. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5779077508cb 00:46:21 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I think 5779077 might be masking a still-current bug with off-level mislead monsters 00:46:44 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2606-g170388b 00:49:25 <|amethyst> kilobyte: or, alternatively, it is doing exactly what we need to do in that situation, but then shouldn't be in the #if 00:50:07 -!- gammafunk has left ##crawl-dev 00:51:45 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:52:12 Mislead does nothing by Sage 00:53:46 weird 00:55:08 -!- bzn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:09:58 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:11:45 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 01:17:00 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:22:24 |amethyst: I pondered having AFF_ as actual probabilities; the code uses numeric values in some places, as commented in the enum 01:22:24 kilobyte: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 01:22:45 currently <0, =0, >0 01:28:06 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:33 -!- skipdog172 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:31:12 !tell MarvinPA I'm refactoring randart brand selection; you wanted to get rid of slay drac. 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Use !messages to read them. 10:52:08 which I'm not sure gives us anything 10:52:27 -!- Chozo has quit [Quit: toribash forever!] 10:53:40 -!- sepik121 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:55:38 What, we can't move in the direction of more multiples of 3? 10:55:42 <_< 10:56:07 -!- Guest15597 has quit [Excess Flood] 10:57:21 well, calculating true probabilities of current randart brands produces massive numbers, so I'm rounding them anyway 10:57:42 if you insist, the denominator can be a power of 3 :p 10:58:08 I really don't think we need to worry about exact / round / power-of-3 numbers, except possibly where they're player-visible. :) 11:13:56 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:19:15 -!- petete_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:20:50 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:22:29 -!- Cronoth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:22:45 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:19 -!- Nightdew has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:30:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 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-!- MarvinPA__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:10 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:40:10 -!- MarvinPA__ is now known as MarvinPA 13:42:26 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:42:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:10 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:52 the line "The great wave of water passes through the water elemental" is missing its period 13:55:07 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57:20 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:25 MarvinPA, kilobyte: About slay dragon, the main loss I think is actually regarding player draconians, where dragonslaying weapons are an actually relevant threat (and not vanishingly rare on a few notable monsters, either) 13:58:46 On randarts, the brand doesn't mean much, but I think I'd be sad to see it lost on normal polearms for this reason in particular 13:59:03 i don't think that alone is worth keeping the brand for though 13:59:06 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:27 that just means that draconians are more exposed to the "o shit a scary brand" factor than other races; doesn't really have to be slay drac in particular. maybe there's a way to make that race more vulnerable to brands in general to keep that? (if it's desirable?) 14:00:32 it's so much more narrow than, say, holy wrath (which is also much more useful for players) 14:00:45 I suppose I am not sure I see the gain in removing it either, since it actually IS relevant in a few situations (even if those are admittedly narrow) 14:00:53 A lot moreso than slay orc, in either direction 14:01:40 "Your elemental nature makes destructive brands more effective against you." or something 14:01:56 That's an awful lot more general 14:02:10 Dragon slaying was already restricted to a specific class of weapons 14:05:13 ontoclasm: Incidentally, I have been meaning to mention this for a while, but dryads are really hard to locate against trees in tiles, if you don't already know where they are 14:05:26 ontoclasm: Like, you get a 'comes into view' message, and then have a hard time even finding where it is 14:05:59 ontoclasm: I wonder if maybe it could make sense to give them autumal colors to contrast with the trees, for purposes of identification? 14:07:48 -!- ahahaha has quit [Client Quit] 14:08:07 -!- ahahaha has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:32 Oh where oh where will our mac tiles trunk updater hero come from? ;) 14:10:13 -!- ahahaha has quit [Client Quit] 14:12:28 -!- browncustard has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:07 -!- blackcustard has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:13:11 -!- browncustard is now known as blackcustard 14:15:04 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.13-a0-2614-g6501aa9: Fix a missing period. (ontoclasm) 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6501aa98c56a 14:15:04 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.13-a0-2615-g6c3e892: Unnerf Spriggan Defenders a little 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c3e8923b7fe 14:15:04 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.13-a0-2616-g3970fff: Greatly raise The Enchantress's xp value 10(69 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3970fff68717 14:18:28 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:26:51 -!- Pisano1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:28:03 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:28:23 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:29:29 -!- Pisano2 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:35:22 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:21 -!- Cronoth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:43:08 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 14:47:55 -!- Guest15597 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:49:10 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:51:47 -!- ahahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:53:53 DracoOmega: +1 to slay drac on normal weapons 14:54:09 DracoOmega: I'm not sure if it needs to go from randarts, either 14:54:57 I just wanted to know before refactoring the insane chain of enum arithmetic 14:55:48 on the other hand, I'm not going to fight to the death over a single rare brand I don't care much about... 14:57:18 Yes, the randart brand-selection code is... scary 14:57:38 I hadn't looked at it until recently and I think my first response was 'wow' 14:58:03 Look a fool, I had assumed something sensible, like a couple random_choose_weighteds :P 15:01:57 -!- ebarrett has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:06:09 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:08:01 current probabilities: http://sprunge.us/GLYY 15:08:35 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:08:38 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:14 (assuming I managed to finally do the calculations right, which judging by the number of idiot errors I made before is not likely) 15:11:45 kilobyte: so what's a good way to get a bad backtrace on arm 15:12:07 kilobyte: have you done "gcore" in GDB for me yet? 15:12:31 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 15:12:58 -!- rycklaryybbe is now known as tesudzi 15:13:49 I haven't run a stress test for more than a month until this morning 15:13:58 got two cores so far, but neither is corrupted 15:14:35 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:14:46 one with a dead starcursed ass blocking a monster's way, one with DNGN_0 on an Abyss shift 15:16:54 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:17:53 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:19:48 -!- mong has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:20:23 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Pacra] 15:27:53 -!- debo is now known as terrible 15:28:16 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:53 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:32:37 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:55 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:33:45 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:36:16 Alyssa27 (L2 SpAs) (D (Sprint)) 15:37:57 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:38:37 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 15:40:51 -!- terrible is now known as debo 15:42:05 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:44:23 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:47:59 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:10 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:13 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:39 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:52:53 -!- eith|2 is now known as eith 15:56:24 -!- Aidenn has quit [Changing host] 16:02:02 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 16:07:24 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 16:09:45 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:16:24 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:17:16 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 16:17:42 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:18:51 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:13 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:21:26 -!- Fhqwhgads_ is now known as Fhqwhgads 16:21:51 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22:34 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:25:35 -!- charlieg has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:27:27 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 16:28:12 hm, anyone know why this arch is displaying as a snail statue 16:28:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:29:39 in this ice cave 16:30:23 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7402 had the same thing in Cocytus 16:30:45 odd 16:32:56 it appears to be something wrong with apply_variations i think? 16:33:14 since checking in wizmode shows that the base tile is still stone_arch 16:33:27 but the variant is granite_statue 16:34:28 it's always a snail statue, so that means it's consistantly adding 6 to the offset 16:34:55 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:36:13 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36:48 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:38 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:39:04 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:53 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:40:00 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:40:20 Erppo (L15 TrDK) ERROR in 'mon-act.cc' at line 2457: infinite handle_monsters() loop, mons[0 of 6] is ghoul (D:18) 16:41:36 Throwing Hunters do not autopickup appropriate ammo by CaptainHaddock 16:42:23 -!- Aryth12 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:42:45 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:44:08 -!- CaptainHaddock has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 16:45:11 Hi - I've reported and submitted a patch to fix a tiny bug (#7428) 16:47:29 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: aha 16:47:34 <|amethyst> is_door_tile 16:48:18 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:20 lich (15L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 59-99 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 1513(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2789 | Sp: b.cold (3d29), paralyse, greater demon, animate dead, iron shot (3d34), teleport self / b.draining (3d27), slow, invisibility, throw icicle (3d29), crystal spear (3d40) / b.fire (3d29), confuse, haste, b.draining (3d27), greater demon, banishment / mystic blast (3d24), b.cold (3d29), invisibility, animate dead, destruction orb (8d17) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 16:48:20 %??lich 16:48:23 tengu reaver (13H) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 17 | HP: 66-102 | AC/EV: 2/17 | Dam: 27, 11, 11 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(68) | XP: 2063 | Sp: b.lightning (3d22), battlesphere, freezing cloud (2d27) / b.magma (3d26), battlesphere, fireball (3d27) / b.venom (3d21), battlesphere, poisonous cloud (3d11) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 16:48:23 %??tengu reaver 16:48:23 -!- bh has quit [Changing host] 16:48:23 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:41 !seen DracoOmega 16:48:41 I last saw DracoOmega at Sun Aug 4 19:58:03 2013 UTC (1h 50m 38s ago) saying 'Look a fool, I had assumed something sensible, like a couple random_choose_weighteds :P' on ##crawl-dev. 16:49:22 !tell DracoOmega imo Tengu Reavers are much more dangerous than Liches. Would you consider up-exp'ing them? 16:49:23 bh: OK, I'll let dracoomega know. 16:49:57 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:50:09 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:50:14 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52:08 -!- bh has quit [Client Quit] 16:56:45 Wanderers do not have ammo autopickup set when relevant by CaptainHaddock 16:58:40 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: I can't figure out when it broke... it looks like DNGN_TILE_STONE_ARCH has always been inside the is_door_tile range 16:59:15 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: does anyone have custom stone arches? 16:59:43 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: other than hell 16:59:52 -!- Guest85594 is now known as zoite 16:59:55 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:59:59 -!- zoite has quit [Changing host] 17:01:12 -!- eith|2 is now known as eith 17:01:31 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:04:11 uhhm 17:04:23 i don't believe so 17:06:07 <|amethyst> it's fine in 0.12... guess I'll try bisecting 17:09:16 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:09:32 I'll bet this is my fault indirectly <_< 17:09:56 even if you didn't touch it i'm blaming you 17:15:09 -!- marcmagu1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:18:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:17 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:22 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Pacra] 17:22:09 -!- Flexo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:29:04 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:29:30 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:32:22 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:32 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:39:13 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 17:39:19 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:49 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:45 <|amethyst> found it 17:42:57 <|amethyst> %git 1ea5b6bc 17:42:57 07edlothiol02 {ontoclasm} * 0.13-a0-2510-g1ea5b6b: Special door tiles for crypt (white_noise, #6073). 10(12 months ago, 17 files, 22+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ea5b6bca508 17:43:08 -!- Schwer-Muta has quit [] 17:43:25 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:07 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 17:45:04 -!- trollman has quit [Client Quit] 17:49:45 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:50:12 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:56 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:34 -!- MarvinPA__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:08 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:57:13 so it wasnt grunt after all? :P 17:57:30 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:57:31 -!- MarvinPA__ is now known as MarvinPA 17:57:34 -!- AHMED-- has quit [Quit: • IRcap [7.51] • http://www.ircap.com •] 17:57:53 -!- tholmes has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:58:20 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:05:07 -!- trollman is now known as godzilla 18:07:28 -!- tali713 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:07:48 -!- godzilla has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:09:05 :Y 18:09:53 welp, i have only myself to blame i guess? 18:10:37 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Quitting] 18:11:15 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:13:07 -!- tali713 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:30 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2617-g9d0e715: Don't treat stone arches as having door tile variants (#7402) 10(22 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d0e715c0b71 18:16:30 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2618-g3fe8869: Display flv.special in the wizmode tiles tooltip. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3fe8869762c1 18:17:35 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: nah, you can blame edlothiol if you want :) 18:18:49 * Grunt blames |amethyst <_< 18:19:17 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: and not necessarily in that commit 18:19:18 |amethyst: thanks! 18:19:24 <|amethyst> %git 2cdada02 18:19:24 07edlothiol02 * 0.10-a0-2981-g2cdada0: Fix #5133: secret door positions revealed next to walls with redefined tiles. 10(1 year, 7 months ago, 4 files, 37+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cdada0216b5 18:20:11 <|amethyst> is_door_tile has always considered dngn_stone_arch to be a door tile; it just wasn't relevant until the crypt doors change 18:20:13 -!- ahahaha_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:20:31 <|amethyst> btw, _get_door_offset looks wrong in the count == 9 case 18:20:44 <|amethyst> which probably doesn't happen currently but I'm not sure 18:21:51 <|amethyst> runed gates exist now, but it doesn't know about that 18:23:24 <|amethyst> I guess it's probably not relevant now, but it will need to be looked at if we want crypt variant runed and sealed doors 18:25:27 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 18:25:41 |amethyst: that's probably the cause of the runed gate thing 18:26:08 runed gates of 3 or more doors display incorrectly 18:26:28 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:10 <|amethyst> oh, let me take a look 18:29:17 ....well, maybe not 18:29:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:29:39 get_door_offset only gets called in the case of vault-defined door tiles i think? 18:30:29 <|amethyst> yeah, and I guess the vault could override the runed doors separately 18:31:00 ...wait 18:31:15 it's not runed gates that look wrong 18:31:18 it's sealed ones 18:31:25 i keep mixing them up :/ 18:31:28 <|amethyst> aha 18:31:29 Blame DracoOmega <_< 18:31:30 >_> 18:32:51 <|amethyst> oh, and the door stays messed up when un-sealed 18:33:27 yep 18:33:46 I am pretty sure it didn't used to do that 18:33:47 DracoOmega: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:34:03 no, they worked fine at one point 18:34:14 <|amethyst> it's because of the tile_init_flavour 18:36:04 <|amethyst> hm, but the code for doors looks right 18:36:33 yeah, i'm mystified 18:36:50 i tried bisecting but i think i screwed it up somehow 18:37:12 <|amethyst> oh weird 18:37:21 <|amethyst> I think I know why you screwed it up 18:37:25 <|amethyst> saving and restoring fixes it 18:37:28 <|amethyst> aha 18:37:32 <|amethyst> I know why too 18:38:06 <|amethyst> tile_init_flavour calls _same_door_at to see if they should be joined 18:38:15 <|amethyst> but the doors are transformed one at a time 18:38:24 But it DID work at one point 18:38:26 So what changed? 18:39:09 <|amethyst> hm 18:41:26 <|amethyst> was it working as of 18:41:32 <|amethyst> %git 4e8a9ab0 18:41:32 07DracoOmega02 * 0.13-a0-948-g4e8a9ab: Refactor warden door seals to use temporary terrain change code 10(4 months ago, 6 files, 18+ 58-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e8a9ab0e823 18:41:47 I, um. I think so? But I cannot say for certain, as I did not test. 18:41:59 At least deliberately 18:42:15 I mean, I tested doors of course, but probably most of them were single-tile ones :P 18:43:00 Though in terms of fixing the bug, I guess it would sufficient to iterate the doors twice: once to change them to sealed ones, and then another time to init tile flavour 18:43:14 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 18:43:14 -!- gammafunk_ is now known as gammafunk 18:43:15 So it might just be an academic curiousity as to how it started to not work, or why it worked before 18:43:19 -!- tgcid has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:41 <|amethyst> I guess I'll not bisect then, because that could take a while :) 18:44:07 I'd be tempted to do so myself, but I need to dash now 18:44:22 See ya! 18:44:28 (You slice the code base in two!!!! You kill the code base!) 18:44:34 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:44:35 <|amethyst> actually, I was going to have _same_door_at treat sealed and closed doors the same 18:44:39 <|amethyst> later 18:48:33 <|amethyst> would it be a problem if adjacent runed and unruned doors merged? 18:48:40 <|amethyst> visually I mean 18:49:07 <|amethyst> so you had a gate with some runed tiles and some unruned tiles 18:49:37 <|amethyst> nm, I can do it without that side effect 18:49:51 also i can't think of a case where that would happen 18:50:10 i guess someone could theoretically makea vault like that, but why 18:51:55 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:53:23 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:28 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56:46 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:56:46 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 18:57:30 -!- mong has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:58:32 -!- nubcakes has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:59:32 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:59:38 -!- capablanca has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:50 -!- tgcid has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:01:01 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 19:02:55 -!- mikee_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:02:59 -!- [1]capablanca has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:06 -!- Wahaha has quit [Client Quit] 19:04:55 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:05:00 -!- capablanca has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:05:00 -!- [1]capablanca is now known as capablanca 19:07:41 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2619-gbd0b729: Don't render gates as doors after sealing/unsealing. 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd0b72963f01 19:11:55 03Captain Haddock02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.13-a0-2620-g9c1726f: Throwing Hunters now have autopickup starting ammo (#7428) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c1726f6c428 19:12:17 sweet 19:12:34 <|amethyst> I do worry a little about large rocks 19:13:06 falling on your head? 19:13:17 or them being auto-pickup and burdening you? 19:13:30 <|amethyst> that they weigh so much people will have to turn it off 19:13:32 <|amethyst> yeah 19:13:37 <|amethyst> also, the general problems with starting ammo force-autopickup 19:13:39 how common are they early on though? 19:13:48 <|amethyst> namely that there isn't an automated way to turn it off 19:13:56 <|amethyst> but that's SamB's problem, not yours :) 19:14:28 automated in what sense? 19:14:41 you mean there's no option in config files to disable force-autopickup? 19:15:09 it overrides regular autopickup settings which is sort of bad, yeah 19:15:19 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:15:21 <|amethyst> yeah 19:15:39 -!- Burer has quit [] 19:16:03 <|amethyst> I guess an option to disable the ng-setup force_autopickup would be the simplest 19:16:27 but you can disable the auto-pickup when the game starts 19:16:40 <|amethyst> I believe SamB looked into trying to handle it with autopickup_exceptions instead but it was rather nontrivial 19:16:47 yes but if you don't want it then having to go into a menu to do that is pretty annoying 19:17:00 i guess 19:17:04 <|amethyst> yeah, the whole point of having it is so that people don't have to go into a menu 19:17:20 but I found it pretty annoying to start with a ranger who didn't have their projectiles on auto-pickup 19:17:22 <|amethyst> so there should be a way for people who don't want to autopickup to not have to go into a menu 19:17:36 -!- capablanca is now known as mikee_ 19:17:50 <|amethyst> right, in most cases you'd want it, which is why it's there in the first place 19:18:00 surely it's a fairly simple bit of lua to do it with autopickup exceptions? unless there's something i'm missing 19:18:26 oh right it needs to know which ammo type 19:18:31 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: yeah 19:19:18 wouldn't it be best to have some config options for each item type, and a three possible values in the autopickup decisions - WANT, DO_NO_WANT, DO_NOT_CARE 19:19:31 then when you initialise it, you read from config 19:19:55 and then when setting stuff at char-gen, you'd change the relevant stuff to WANT, unless it was DO_NO_WANT 19:21:43 <|amethyst> there are three choices in force_autopickup: want, don't want, and defer to autopickup_exceptions 19:21:48 ah 19:21:52 <|amethyst> force_autopickup is only changed from the menu 19:21:59 ah 19:22:03 <|amethyst> the exceptions are set in the config 19:22:09 i honestly couldn't see what was going on 19:22:18 i just lucked out in finding it already half-baked 19:22:20 and going from there 19:22:21 <|amethyst> :) 19:23:07 <|amethyst> force_autopickup was intended to be manually-set only, because it is an override for the automatic stuff (autopickup_exceptions) 19:23:19 ah 19:23:50 -!- hopfn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:49 <|amethyst> but in this case autopickup_exceptions doesn't really work (because it has no way to know your "starting ammo", and something based on skills etc would be unintuitive) 19:25:39 -!- ahahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:25:52 <|amethyst> anyway, I'd best be off (for a while anyway). Patches for the patch god! 19:26:06 bye 19:26:55 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:29:41 -!- CreepingCrawled has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:37:44 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:08 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:42:34 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:44:52 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:46:54 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 19:47:10 -!- capablanca has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:34 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:16 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:58:13 -!- CaptainHaddock has quit [Quit: Squids are attacking] 20:00:19 -!- Guest14947 is now known as Wensley 20:01:29 -!- RaptorWrex has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:06:34 Is there a way to use lg to look for games where a particular vault was simply encountered (as opposed to the player being killed there)? 20:07:17 -!- capablanca is now known as mikee_ 20:08:46 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:11:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14:03 no, because just encountering a vault doesn't create a milestone 20:14:15 something milestone-worthy would have to happen there 20:15:20 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 20:15:29 -!- Momento has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:18:52 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 20:30:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:38:28 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:48:02 -!- tgcid has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:12 -!- tgcid has quit [Client Quit] 20:50:43 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 20:55:18 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:47 -!- Enkidu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:57:18 -!- Grathtarg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:57:57 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:58:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:00:06 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:03:57 |amethyst: and the one for transmogrificationists should perhaps be outright dropped 21:04:07 -!- moxian has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:06:32 gammafunk: that information isn't even included in DUMPS by default, is it? 21:06:46 (obviously I mean post-game dumps) 21:06:48 <|amethyst> not any more 21:07:00 <|amethyst> maybe it should be for servers 21:07:12 I think it was only ever on briefly? 21:07:18 do these files get compressed? 21:07:20 <|amethyst> oh, right 21:07:35 <|amethyst> they do not, but it's not a big deal compared to even the smallest ttyrecs 21:07:42 point 21:08:06 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:08:20 <|amethyst> kilobyte's objection was that it is info the player probably doesn't want, and will mostly only confuse (the word "vault" isn't something players see otherwise) 21:08:31 would be nice for vault designers, but we can't have everything we want I guess 21:08:35 of course, anything one might hope to glean from the files would need to be assisted by some kind of server-side grep ... 21:08:40 <|amethyst> on the public servers, however, it would allow compiling interesting statistics 21:09:39 also on the public servers users are probably a bit more likely to have heard of vaults 21:11:35 * SamB wonders if kilobyte has ever noticed or cared that "catch syscall" doesn't work on ARM 21:11:41 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:49 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:49 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:21:28 do you remember those "trivial/easy/hard/nasty monster, corpses dropped" stats on every level-up? 21:21:39 they spammed char dumps for some time 21:22:43 I added that to be able to balance newoka, ash tiers, etc 21:23:39 I kind of wonder, perhaps we could have such info that's interesting to a dev but not to an average player dumped to a separate file? 21:24:10 SamB: what's that "catch sycall" thingy? 21:24:26 kilobyte: a GDB feature 21:24:39 basically breakpoints on syscalls 21:25:00 never heard about it, never used it 21:25:16 yeah I guess it's not too well publicized 21:25:37 -!- lazarenth has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:26:18 or surely someone would have implemented ARM Linux support for it before me! 21:26:56 hah 21:27:54 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:28:15 I mean it wasn't that hard to implement; all I had to do was implement a fairly short function, make a simple XML file listing syscalls, and add a couple lines to another function to register the function and the XML file 21:29:19 I didn't exactly make a complete XML file though since I don't have the grep/sed scripts that are supposed to have been used to make the other ones ... 21:29:28 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:32:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2621-g615ae38: Fix whitespace. 10(36 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=615ae38e8b72 21:32:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2622-gccb6aaa: Enable autopickup for wanderer starting ammo (#7429). 10(45 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ccb6aaa35b12 21:32:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2623-g49afce1: Refactor. 10(37 minutes ago, 3 files, 18+ 31-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=49afce12fee3 21:32:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2624-g2f44106: Allow setting autopickup_starting_ammo = false. 10(27 minutes ago, 4 files, 12+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f441068077c 21:32:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2625-g8d22a55: Don't autopickup arrows for transmuters (SamB) 10(21 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d22a55ae201 21:32:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2626-ged78740: Move autopickup_starting_ammo in options_guide, add to TOC. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed787401f70d 21:33:56 <|amethyst> sadly, it can't be conditionalised on the player's class :( 21:34:47 yeah it *would* be too late by the time such conditionals are allowed 21:35:41 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:36:04 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:05 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:37:05 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 21:37:58 -!- eb_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:49 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:43:51 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:36 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 21:45:02 -!- mnoqy has quit [Quit: hello] 21:45:08 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2620-g9c1726f 21:46:04 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:11 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:46:46 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:47:56 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 21:50:54 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:51:22 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 21:53:08 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 21:56:01 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58:51 |amethyst: I'm afraid current trunk doesn't compile 21:59:43 ng-setup.h:10:31: error: variable or field ‘autopickup_starting_ammo’ declared void 21:59:53 ng-setup.h:10:31: error: ‘missile_type’ was not declared in this scope 21:59:57 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:14 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:00 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:05:48 how reckless! 22:05:53 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:08:01 <|amethyst> wha 22:09:04 an include dependency on itemprop-enum.h fixes it 22:09:49 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:11:35 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2627-g6f4baa5: Fix compilation (oops). 10(29 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f4baa5f3e9c 22:12:09 -!- Guest15597 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:12:23 <|amethyst> I guess there was some webtiles-only header that happened to pull it in 22:12:40 possible, yeah 22:12:46 <|amethyst> or if you're doing PCH 22:13:12 no PCH, I'm not sure if the makefile is reliable yet 22:13:20 or if it even can be reliable 22:13:52 hmm? 22:14:06 03kilobyte02 07* 0.13-a0-2628-g7b869e6: Use gold instead of bfd if possible. 10(31 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b869e6c3305 22:14:06 03kilobyte02 07* 0.13-a0-2629-g9605ba8: Don't pointlessly reroll melee randarts. 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9605ba8ac5c8 22:14:06 03kilobyte02 07* 0.13-a0-2630-gc2a47ca: Refactor melee randart brand selection. 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 35+ 59-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2a47cada239 22:14:07 I guess it is kinda flakey sometimes :-( 22:14:16 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:26 I recall some miscompiles if something changes, but I admit I did not try it in a long long time 22:14:42 something like libc headers, you mean? 22:14:49 not sure 22:15:29 * kilobyte tends to compile all variants and multiple architectures from the same tree, so this might be a factor. 22:15:36 I had that happen once so I changed the GCC invocation to include external headers in the dependency list 22:15:50 <|amethyst> hm 22:16:20 I mean, my x32 chroot bind-mounts /home from the amd64 host, so even the compiler's name is the same 22:16:32 (for win32 builds at least CROSSHOST is different) 22:16:37 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:17:18 kilobyte: oh, does that keep us from catching a CFLAG change? 22:17:40 lemme try it again 22:18:17 I haven't tried PCH in ages so I may be talking even bigger nonsense than usually 22:19:30 I do recognize that our makefile is filled with lies 22:19:53 or possibly half-truths 22:21:16 make lies 22:21:18 <_< 22:22:15 <|amethyst> not war? 22:22:41 No rule to make target `war'. Stop. 22:23:49 <|amethyst> A strange game. 22:25:12 The only way to win is not to play? 22:25:39 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 22:25:44 How about a nice game of chess? :b 22:25:54 hehehe 22:27:01 <|amethyst> A strange game. The only winning move is shift-comma. 22:27:22 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 22:27:25 That's explicitly a losing move, though. :b 22:27:36 Grunt: it depends on what you do before that 22:28:19 Well, if you mean the move you make on the turn you win the game... 22:28:21 >_> 22:29:06 though honestly it's not that strange to have a single such possible winning move 22:29:07 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30:26 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 22:30:31 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:30:50 <|amethyst> I hacked up my copy of gitstats to add a net lines column in the author list 22:30:55 <|amethyst> ??crawl-stats 22:30:55 I don't have a page labeled crawlstats in my learndb. 22:31:00 <|amethyst> ??gitstats 22:31:00 gitstats[1/3]: http://www.ohloh.net/p/stonesoup 22:31:02 <|amethyst> ??gitstats[2] 22:31:03 gitstats[2/3]: http://s-z.org/crawl-stats/ — updated infrequently 22:31:40 so is anybody in the negative? 22:31:43 -!- milkey has quit [Client Quit] 22:32:05 -!- Guest15597 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:32:25 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 22:32:35 <|amethyst> neunon is very negative... I believe he split out contribs to submodules 22:32:52 <|amethyst> among active devs, MarvinPA and (maybe not so active) Cryp71c 22:33:10 cool 22:33:49 <|amethyst> Zaba, haranp, and nlanza are also negative 22:34:57 -!- Foonesh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:37:33 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:37:44 SamB: make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/predefs.h', needed by `AppHdr.h.gch'. Stop. 22:37:51 works after a "make clean" 22:38:16 kilobyte: presumably because that chroot doesn't have that file 22:38:42 looks like your fix turned a miscompile into a failure 22:38:51 that seems like a good plan to me 22:38:55 yeah 22:39:34 a nice rebuild would be better, but beating the current makefile into shape is a tytanic work :( 22:40:11 I don't think autoconf would help here either 22:40:51 compared to how confused I was when I had some of the libc headers precompiled from wheezy's libc, but some being read fresh from 2.17, this is a piece of cake ;-) 22:44:05 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:47:58 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:52:01 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:54:02 -!- m1nced has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:56:32 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:59:35 -!- captainhaddock has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:21 -!- djinni has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:05:48 -!- ivan``_ has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 23:05:50 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:07:17 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 23:09:26 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:10:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:14:33 -!- ivan`` has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:17:46 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:45 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:23:43 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:29:10 -!- djinni has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:33:12 03kilobyte02 07* 0.13-a0-2631-g20ac653: Don't prompt about irrelevant transformations while in stat death. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=20ac6532cc6d 23:37:18 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:17 unvoluntary transforms prompt about stat death by KiloByte 23:38:50 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2632-g2f0fc1f: Simplify and constify. 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f0fc1f422da 23:38:55 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:57 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:41:55 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 23:44:42 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13-a0-2630-gc2a47ca (34) 23:47:23 -!- skipdog172 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:48:47 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 23:50:10 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 23:56:05 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:58:11 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle]