00:00:41 Stable (0.12) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12.2-14-g7c90c79 00:02:17 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2600-g811f1de (34) 00:05:21 Stable (0.12) branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.12.2-14-g7c90c79 00:06:39 <|amethyst> I don't think this is the cause, but CrawlHashTable::operator= doesn't handle self-assignment 00:08:21 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12.2-14-g7c90c79 (34) 00:10:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:11:05 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2600-g811f1de (34) 00:13:38 has anyone opined about how randgod powers should be made? 00:14:16 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:14:19 pink and purple polka-dotted would be nice 00:16:13 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.13-a0-2600-g811f1de (34) 00:16:43 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:19:25 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 00:21:07 SamB: broadly speaking we have powers that are aura/radius effects, ally powers, self powers, direct damage and debuffs 00:23:29 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23:36 <|amethyst> how would you classify e.g. Ashenzari identification? 00:23:46 freakin' weird :) 00:24:04 <|amethyst> (also Vehumet range extension and other non-aura passives) 00:24:14 I don't know if we should attempt to replicate the existing pantheon as randgods 00:24:45 <|amethyst> no, but I think passive abilities make sense for randgods 00:24:54 definitely 00:28:52 ??vorpalise weapon 00:28:53 scroll of vorpalise weapon[1/4]: Adds the {vorpal} brand to an unbranded, wielded (non-artifact, non-blowgun) weapon, or makes a temporary brand (freezing, flaming, electrocution, draining, venom, or chaos) permanent. In 0.13, can also rebrand a permanently branded weapon. 00:29:25 glad to see vorpalise got more complicated 00:29:42 <|amethyst> %git cb1013 00:29:42 07MarvinPA02 * 0.13-a0-2551-gcb1013a: Let vorpalise weapon rebrand weapons (argonaut) 10(5 days ago, 2 files, 100+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb1013aeb5f0 00:29:45 <|amethyst> also 00:29:47 <|amethyst> %git beff8d 00:29:48 07MarvinPA02 * 0.13-a0-2553-gbeff8de: Increase vorpal brand damage to from 1/8 to 1/6 on average 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=beff8de9a48d 00:29:52 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:30:31 should we let kiku rebless a branded weapon as pain? 00:31:02 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:31:06 that's how god blessing has worked forever as far as i know 00:31:56 ah. I was misinformed 00:33:38 -!- alefury has quit [] 00:34:49 that description is really not very accurate for 0.13, or at least it's awfully vague 00:35:29 SamB: try harder "Obtuse that current description is, for the current version it may be" ;) 00:36:25 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2600-g811f1de 00:36:59 -!- Grathtarg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:37:19 <|amethyst> Hash or hash not, there is no trie 00:37:30 !abyss |amethyst 00:37:31 bh casts a spell. |amethyst is devoured by a tear in reality! 00:37:43 |amethyst: suffix arrays are the bees knees 00:37:55 -!- Aponym has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:37:57 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:39:32 -!- faze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:41:26 ['s', 'ing', 'es', 'er', 'est'] 00:42:16 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 00:44:39 -!- timbw has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:49:25 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:16 -!- ussdefiant has joined 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'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 09:28:11 what up 09:28:11 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:28:16 !messages 09:28:29 (1/1) ProzacElf said (2d 11h 41m 36s ago): i see you got the sack of spiders tile in at some point 09:29:21 haha! credit for something i didn't actually do 09:29:41 the best kind of credit 09:34:51 And the worst kind of blame. :b 09:34:52 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:36:41 <|amethyst> hm 09:38:28 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:55 Grunt: hah, so now I know you're guilty of world hunger, AIDS, Islam and the quality of Polish roads 09:44:53 kilobyte: I suppose you're responsible for world peace, then! 09:46:00 not yet, but killing off all humans would be a noble goal 09:46:18 that'd be the only lasting peace :) 09:46:43 until another life form would evolve intelligence 09:46:46 <|amethyst> Until dolphins develop nuclear weapons 09:48:04 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 09:52:00 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 09:52:18 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 09:52:24 and the cockroaches keep breeding through all of it 09:52:45 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 09:53:22 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:53:48 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. 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Use !messages to read them. 13:43:36 I last saw mumra at Sat Aug 3 13:30:55 2013 UTC (5h 12m 41s ago) joining the channel. 13:43:49 !seen evilmike 13:43:49 I last saw evilmike at Mon Jul 29 07:19:44 2013 UTC (5d 11h 24m 5s ago) quitting without a message. 13:44:13 !messages 13:44:13 (1/2) |amethyst said (6d 34m 37s ago): There seems to be an interesting trend of online players doing more trunk recently: 0.13-a has more games than 0.12, 0.12-a slightly fewer than 0.11, and 0.11-a and earlier many fewer than the previous stable versions 13:44:29 !messages 13:44:29 (1/1) |amethyst said (6d 34m 1s ago): See !lg * s=cv cv~~-a$ o=cv vs !lg * s=cv cv~~[0-9]$ o=cv 13:45:13 well that makes sense 13:45:21 webtiles trunk exists now 13:45:30 |amethyst: thanks, that is good to know! 13:46:06 jpeg and I are just back from a holiday... she has 15 pages of survey report. We can get this bit of information in just as well :) 13:49:07 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:56:52 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:01 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:00:11 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:00:45 -!- tigertrap has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:01:45 -!- robotcentaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:03:19 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:44 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 14:12:21 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Quit: I've killed the senator.] 14:12:30 -!- mnoqy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:40 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:33 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:39:18 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:39:26 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:39:51 -!- Voker57 has quit [] 14:42:17 -!- skipdog172_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:42:45 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:47:24 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:47:52 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:50:33 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:52:30 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:03:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:48 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 15:09:50 -!- Helmschank has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:19:10 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:32 -!- ELRanger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:22:23 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:26 !seen dpeg 15:22:26 I last saw dpeg at Sat Aug 3 18:46:06 2013 UTC (1h 36m 20s ago) saying 'jpeg and I are just back from a holiday... she has 15 pages of survey report. We can get this bit of information in just as well :)' on ##crawl-dev. 15:22:42 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 15:22:57 !tell dpeg I saw your tavern post on chunks. If you _were_ designing a roguelike from scratch what would it look like? 15:22:58 bh: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 15:22:58 bh: and he's still here! 15:23:13 SamB: here or *here*? 15:23:21 point 15:23:30 bh: Hiya! 15:23:31 dpeg: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:23:54 it seems I was correct in this instances despite not having noticed the elapsed hours 15:24:15 dpeg: randgods seem like they're going to be hard to implement 15:24:48 kilobyte: so do you have any more bad tracebacks to show me yet? 15:24:50 bh: why so skeptical? Is there some new obstacle? 15:25:04 dpeg: lots of complexity 15:25:10 Neither jpeg nor I contributed anything in the past weeks, but it'll change 15:25:50 bh: but we should start simple! The plainest piety systems (piety for exploration, piety for kills, decay over time), and the simplest powers (modifications of what's already there). 15:27:12 bh: these two already give you a randgod! Granted, it'll be quite lousy, but it's a start. 15:27:52 bh: did you talk to the two good souls who started a branch on the randgods? 15:28:02 dpeg: nope. I didn't notice that the branch existed 15:28:09 yes, it should really go into trunk 15:28:24 I've just been doing some modest refactoring on trunk 15:28:27 I'll try to take care of that (i.e. have someone capable do it :), now that I am back 15:28:55 -!- iamspoutnik has quit [Client Quit] 15:29:02 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29:08 bh: it is true that randgod stuff is a bit like Xom stuff: it will be spread all over the place, so good thinking is required before. But they really know what they are doing. 15:29:48 I hate to carry the Object Oriented torch, but Randgods will be a lot simpler if we have gods covered by a class 15:29:54 /interface, whatever 15:30:41 bh: I'll send a mail on the matter to you, jpeg and the other two some time next week, ok? 15:31:34 !tell mumra Many thanks for standing both strongly and civilised in the silly demigod thread! It always hurts a bit when they call names but I think we handled it alright. Thx! 15:31:35 dpeg: OK, I'll let mumra know. 15:31:55 dpeg: whenever. I'll keep on doing what I'm doing 15:32:04 bh: ok 15:32:14 What are you doing atm? 15:32:36 apart from breaking tiles builds, I'm trying to consolidate scattered god logic 15:33:06 checks like `if (you.religion == GOD_SOME_GOD)` are really hard for automated refactoring tools to deal with 15:38:28 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:00 ??GE 15:39:00 grey elf[1/1]: A race of elves very like deep elves with very good air magic. Removed far back in the mists of time. 15:39:31 bh: the first elves to go... or no, may be "Elf" was the first. (4b26 shipped with five elf species) 15:40:22 evilmike suggested on the forum that a Crawl without corpse eating (except for a few species like Tr, Gh) would be better. I agree but it'd certainly be a larger change than most. Anyone not frightened by the very proposition 15:40:55 chunk management is a pain 15:41:04 yes 15:41:04 we'd need to balance out the corpse gods 15:41:26 corpse piety is just a slightly more tedious form of kill piety 15:41:48 btw, the idea is not to do away with corpses ... corpses are fine (zombies etc.). Just no chunks. 15:41:52 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:42:01 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:36 As evilmike points out (rightly, imo), the food clock currently achieves neither the tactical nor the strategical goals very well. But it comes with a sizable interface burden. 15:43:23 maybe we should have automated benchmarks for crawl. Generate an entire dungeon and figure out how much exp there is 15:43:37 that way when we made changes we could do automatic parameter tuning 15:43:40 If you folks think it might be some prospect for the idea, I'd set up a c-r-d mail. 15:43:54 bh: isn't there something like this for branches already? 15:44:04 I am not really familiar with Crawl's tests. 15:44:09 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:10 -!- blackcustard has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:49:02 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:51:53 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:53:39 dpeg: What if we remove food and make exp the only resource 15:53:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:54:13 -!- ahahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:54:21 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:26 As you gained Experience it would get a pool of whatever points that you could spend 15:56:47 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:14 bh: in principle, a food clock is good for making sure you cannot kite forever etc. 15:57:37 sure, but if you needed exp fuel to run abilities, you'd need to go get more exp juice 15:58:23 this would work if you'd address HP/MP regain over time :) 15:59:10 just make it drain like hunger currently does 15:59:31 To fill: Kill stuff, To drain: Use abilities or stand around. 15:59:36 all of this would work, but I think it's quite hard to change the mechanics of a big game like Crawl 15:59:38 It would certainly be a radical departure from crawl 16:00:32 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 16:01:27 but I was asking b/c I thought just going from chunks to perma food might be possible without too many pains 16:02:30 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Quitting] 16:03:33 dpeg: I found that auto-butcher, auto-eat solves some of the interface annoyance 16:04:08 -!- eeviac has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:29 phyphor: yes, that's the other approach. These options should then be default, though. 16:04:46 indeed 16:05:04 auto-butcher when hungry, auto-eat, auto-sec 16:05:24 or we get rid of food and reduce the OOD counter 16:05:32 dpeg: I think this change would be doable 16:05:42 phyphor: that would be problematic. You could dive and then pop back up 16:05:42 increase, surely 16:06:06 Well, make it so you get lots of nastiness if you hang around 16:06:29 nastiness means good xp, if you can kill 'em 16:06:51 nothing liking curaring that early hill giant to death 16:06:55 like* 16:07:09 yes 16:07:37 nastiness means bone dragons 16:07:39 obviously 16:07:44 EE buff 16:07:47 well, actually, let's back it up 16:07:56 What is the food clock for 16:08:04 is there any way to get the ssame answer using other methods? 16:08:35 Alternatively, is there a way ot make eating chunks less laborious 16:08:45 (such as changing the default butchery/eating options?) 16:09:08 play nothing but mummy and djinn 16:09:15 phyphor: the food clock in Rogue or Brogue is there to keep you going. 16:09:18 you can change them readily enough in your rc, so presumably that could be the default 16:09:28 There should be some actual pressure to keep you from dawdling around. 16:09:40 dpeg: but mummies and sjinnies don't have thise 16:09:45 ninjas 16:09:46 the food clock in brogue makes no sense, but that's another story 16:09:47 Crawl's food system is bad at this; Crawl food has more function for casting. 16:09:58 dispatch ninjas to actually kill dawdlers 16:10:00 phyphor: yes, but mummies have been intentionally designed to be scummable. 16:10:15 eeviac: no sense? 16:10:51 brogue isn't scummable - no xp, minimal extra item generation. there's no reason to force people to keep moving 16:11:37 eeviac: oh, there is. Without the food clock, you could optimise your !Detect Magic for ages. 16:11:39 well it's not meant to stop you from scumming, it's meant to stop you from resting too much and from backtracking too much 16:12:06 eeviac: without the food clock you could rest and take it easy and not have to take risks with your hp! 16:12:15 and there's the recharging items too 16:12:17 otherwise you would constantly go back to old vaults and swap items situationally etc 16:12:35 mnoqy: well, we could remove everything but djinnis, mummies and deep dwarves :) 16:12:40 (also the food clock is broken currently or something but it works in theory at least) 16:12:48 ok, it serves a purpose, but I still don't like brogue 16:12:49 phyphor: hm 16:13:01 phyphor: i don't think that would make crawl a better game, but it's a start 16:13:07 eeviac: that is a different (and alright) statement :) 16:15:20 oh yeah, I need to complain about a new vaults vault 16:15:56 is UnBrogue worth a try? 16:15:58 possible ideas: auto-nibble - every creature you kill you get some satiation from, but no chunks to manage (but then what about the things that require chunks) 16:16:09 auto-butcher/eat on by default 16:16:23 phyphor: if we change nothing else, we should do this 16:16:27 not sure what it's called, but you open a big door to be faced with a bunch of the new vaultsdudes and the wardens lock your escape path 16:16:43 unbrogue looks to me like it somehow goes in the opposite direction to regular brogue design and just adds a ton of stuff, i haven't played it though 16:16:43 then your options are: destory door, teleport, or die 16:16:54 kilobyte: so how do you build crawl, and how do you run it to get it to crash? 16:17:01 MarvinPA: yes, seems like it. That is why I am asking. 16:17:09 remove hunger and have some other cost to the player for dawdling/spell casting (exp, piety, permanet mp/hp cost?) 16:17:51 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:17:56 essnetially - remove chunks but keep hunger, make chunks easier to deal with, or remove hunger 16:18:01 I don't think I'll suggest hunger removal to c-r-d. Centaurs and Trolls are fine, and it's a change that seems too massive to me. 16:18:25 phyphor: what I was talking about is this: remove chunks, keep hunger, adjust permafood generation. 16:18:29 I don't think it's the right thing, but that's the spectrum of options 16:18:40 dpeg: hrm 16:18:43 ??git 16:18:44 git[1/2]: Readonly: git clone git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git Read/Write: git@gitorious.org:crawl/crawl.git Web interface: http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git or http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl 16:19:22 dpeg: if you remove chunks then ... s sublimation still a thing? 16:19:44 phyphor: it could work off corpses, couldn't it? 16:20:10 I guess 16:21:37 dpeg: spriggans exist so clearly chunks are unnecessary 16:22:02 ontoclasm: yes, that was one argument. 16:22:07 don't ghouls need rotting corpses? 16:22:10 or chunks 16:22:24 * dpeg can boast to have suggested herbivore 3 for Spriggans and fought for it (there was resistance) 16:22:25 ghouls could be changed to work directly off of kills 16:22:28 the only other chunk things are sub and simulacra i believe 16:22:32 fr give everyone slow metabloism 3 16:22:36 phyphor: Tr, Gh would keep eating 16:22:40 or carry corpses around for healing but no satiation 16:22:58 simulacra could make simulacra of random monsters you killed recently 16:23:17 !tell kilobyte how do you run your torture test 16:23:18 SamB: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 16:25:01 so what's the plan for dj. they haven't changed much since implementation but a lot of people are complaining 16:25:45 What are the complaints? 16:26:09 rHellfire, and the EP system being broken/unbalanceable 16:26:24 dpeg: how many randgods do you anticipate having per game? 16:26:36 IMO they don't need to be fire beings, they could just be magic beings 16:26:46 eeviac: +1 16:26:52 eeviac++ 16:26:55 efreets are already fire creatures 16:27:00 am I a dev yet 16:27:02 phyphor: ++eeviac 16:27:13 yes it would be good to cut down on the huge number of special cases necessary for them 16:27:20 and just focus on the mp = hp bit 16:27:24 oh, obviously djinni shuold get acquirement, as if reading a scroll, every X levels :) 16:27:35 and the no spell hunger and the rN+++, keep those please 16:27:39 er no hunger* 16:27:42 (or is the scroll of acquirement / wand of wishing gag done to death?) 16:28:15 fr djinn get bag of holding 16:28:19 and reflection 16:28:33 only one of them, randomly, i they can spell the word sokoban 16:28:33 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:29:16 fr: djinn start with the orb of zot. 16:29:18 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:29:40 did golden eyes get added to the orb run or did I just get unlucky yesterday 16:30:37 -!- Momento has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:32:09 bh: few. Perhaps less than one. 16:35:03 dpeg: my idea was for a 'god of the week' 16:35:12 bh: random gods (as I see them) should be special... like a portal vault. 16:36:17 bh: oh yes! My idea is that randgods are a bit like ghosts (and there is code for saving them already): they keep coming up until they're won (perhaps several times) or have been around long enough. So players can get used to a random god but it'll go quick. 16:37:02 how do you call up vaults? 16:37:26 eeviac: in wizmode? The &? will tell you. There is &L and &P, iirc. 16:37:38 I mean call up a link to them 16:37:43 with sequell or whatever 16:38:03 !vault its_name_or_unique_infix ? 16:38:04 Couldn't understand ? 16:38:15 * geekosaur pats Henzell 16:38:30 !vault nicolae_vaults_meeting 16:38:37 Lines pasted to http://pastie.org/8203828 16:38:42 nice, thanks 16:39:00 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:39:09 it's this one 16:39:48 if a door generates as an entrance to this vault, it's an autoexplore deathtrap 16:41:07 eeviac: will you make a bug report? 16:41:17 ok 16:41:44 thank you 16:44:30 -!- sacje has quit [Excess Flood] 16:45:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:45:45 whoa, what, priest is gone? 16:46:48 yes, and HO can worship beogh when they meet an orc priest 16:47:04 its very cool 16:47:06 alefury: such a cool idea! 16:49:28 now only if there was any point to worshipping beogh! :> 16:51:43 BlastHardcheese: does it suffice that some players like it? 16:51:50 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:52:08 new recall made beogh worthwhile IMO 16:52:12 I suppose if you're one of those players 16:52:17 I enjoyed my HOPr win 16:52:34 BlastHardcheese: I never played a mummy... but that does not mean I have to campaign for Mu removal. 16:53:04 what does removal of anything have to do with anything, I'd love to see beogh improved 16:53:13 eeviac: yes, I think Beogh is a god you won't take too often. But that's fine. From my reading on SA, orc god seems to be a nice gateway playing style. 16:53:40 yred needs more help than beogh IMO 16:54:04 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:18 * dpeg doesn't see the problem 16:54:41 by the way, is forest not a guaranteed branch? I never found it on my last win... 16:54:42 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55:23 I don't even know where it's supposed to appear 16:55:41 instead of crypt 16:56:02 so tomb generates in forest? 16:56:05 yes 16:56:13 wacky 16:56:18 eeviac: ?/Su in trunk 16:56:24 sorry, ?/Bu 16:56:30 ? 16:56:38 just press it 16:57:35 hmmm looks like a lot of work goes into the help menu that I never read 16:58:04 jpeg and I looked at ?/g yesterday, and I really liked the colours :) 16:59:03 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:01:01 nicolae_vaults_meeting is an autoexplore deathtrap by eeviac 17:01:20 ...welp 17:01:27 i did work i didn't need to! 17:01:31 -!- cjo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:02:48 do lava orcs have to be orcs 17:03:40 eeviac: it depends. Eronarn would probably adamantly say yes. I think having another orc species is cool as is "lava orc" in its weirdness ... but altogether I think the theme can be modified. 17:04:15 are lava orcs big in some mythology that I'm not familiar with? 17:05:03 no, not at all : 17:05:04 :) 17:07:25 lava gnomes, lava grey elces 17:07:28 elves 17:07:37 lava spriggans 17:07:40 lava elms 17:08:52 I don't mind the silliness -- we can build flavour/story on our own very well. But with *lava* *orc*, there are actual problems with mechanics. 17:11:26 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:12:40 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.13-a0-2602-g0e7cc69: Searing ray tiles 10(28 seconds ago, 10 files, 22+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e7cc690e761 17:15:16 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:23 -!- yokel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:21:08 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:47 -!- jeffro has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 17:25:38 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:29:08 -!- ackack has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:36:22 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:52:30 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:54:24 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:02 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:56:52 -!- eeviac has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 18:01:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:05:32 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 18:06:52 -!- Voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08:58 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:11:56 -!- cjo_ has left ##crawl-dev 18:13:59 <|amethyst> dpeg: not sure if you noticed that LO^Beogh is possible now 18:14:32 |amethyst: yes, I noticed. At the expense of disabling a LO mechanic though, which is what I meant 18:16:45 <|amethyst> Yeah... though the mechanic in question is a little funny even ignoring Beogh. 18:17:15 <|amethyst> Monsters don't even try to say out of your heat aura---and if they did, it would be even worse because essentially everything would flee to one square away 18:17:23 <|amethyst> and you'd need a polearm :( 18:17:26 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:30 |amethyst: exactly 18:17:57 I think it would be nice if 0.13 had one of the new species. Gargoyle seems like the best bet at the moment. 18:18:17 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:38 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:22 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:21:24 -!- Pacra has quit [Client Quit] 18:23:00 lorcs losing heat aura seems fine to me, passive heat is fine 18:23:04 <|amethyst> I don't see a problem with LO for 0.13, but as a player I can only really evaluate things pre-Lair :) 18:23:16 though it would be sad to see the effect leave 18:23:27 but yeah it isn't good from an AI POV right now 18:24:01 definitely better to get rid of that than to see them become not-orcs 18:24:47 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:24:47 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 18:25:34 <|amethyst> Eronarn: IMO the biggest problem with the orc thing is that they seem *too* similar to HO in aptitudes etc 18:27:58 <|amethyst> Eronarn: they also feel "better" than HO, but I don't use consumables enough, so I'm probably over-discounting their chief drawback 18:31:40 probably they shouldn't get +3 invoc since that is sort of HO's thing 18:32:10 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:32:42 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: what about making HO 0/0 fire/ice (or even -1/1) ? 18:33:06 <|amethyst> Maybe it's cold in the hills 18:34:42 <|amethyst> I could also see a flavour argument for lowering necromancy (living in lava means you don't deal with very many corpses), but then all the new races have low necromancy 18:34:48 yeah either of those sounds okay maybe 18:34:51 for HO 18:35:54 low necro is like low charms 18:36:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 18:37:23 <|amethyst> elliott: you mean because there is little power dependence? 18:37:38 -!- st_ has quit [] 18:37:46 well and because the spells are so good that you kind of want them anyway 18:37:47 <|amethyst> elliott: or that people will take necromancy regardless of their aptitude because of (some spell) 18:37:51 <|amethyst> ah 18:38:02 (not stating it's necessarily a bad thing, mind) 18:38:19 certainly it matters for higher-level things 18:40:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:30 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:48:39 Casting poisonous cloud over a battlesphere triggers a confirmation by petete 18:50:14 -!- Jayrays has quit [] 18:50:22 -!- petete_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:35 -!- Icemage has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:51:28 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:51:52 whoever fixs this gets a cookie 18:51:54 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7425 18:52:14 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:55:32 -!- Poncheis is now known as pon 18:56:02 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:45 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:57:11 -!- pon is now known as ponc 18:57:29 -!- ponc is now known as ponch 18:57:54 -!- ponch is now known as Poncheis 19:04:22 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:08:35 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:11:29 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:02 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 19:14:48 petete_: theres a bot that announces bug reports, so theres no need to do it yourself :) 19:14:56 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:17 -!- nooodl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:26 -!- nooodl_ is now known as nooodl 19:18:12 <|amethyst> alefury: maybe that's the UK cookie disclaimer for Mantis? 19:18:31 <3 19:19:04 took me a while to get that, but im chuckling now 19:19:47 anyway, good night 19:19:51 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:23:41 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:41 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:02 Ozocubo's Armour in Statueform by Arrhythmia 19:27:25 -!- skipdog172 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:31:18 <|amethyst> Grunt: BTW, what do you think about splitting AFF_MAYBE into AFF_MAYBE and AFF_PROBABLY? See #7415 for why 19:35:00 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:38:50 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:10 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:43:00 <|amethyst> kilobyte: thoughts on splitting AFF_MAYBE into AFF_MAYBE and AFF_PROBABLY (see #7415). I see you already contemplated something similar in the aff_type comment... do you think it would be better to provide a more detail than two bits? 19:43:18 <|amethyst> kilobyte: err, there was supposed to be a question mark on that first sentence 19:44:19 -!- moxian has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:46:03 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 19:46:03 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:46:03 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:54 -!- rkd has quit [] 20:01:54 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:03:19 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:19 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:05:50 -!- petete_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:17:29 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:55 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:21:35 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:04 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:31:49 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:33:53 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:33:54 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 20:37:19 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:37:45 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:58 -!- Naruni has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:47:55 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:50:31 -!- ogaz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:51:00 |amethyst: yeah they could use some apt tweaks - it was discussed to lower their axes to what lbl and stuff is 20:51:23 so orcs are good at all weapons but HO are especially good at axes 20:52:27 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:52:30 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:53:02 <|amethyst> hm, this is interesting 20:53:20 <|amethyst> the blood coagulation code has in two separate places something like 20:53:31 <|amethyst> mitm[o].flags = (ISFLAG_KNOW_TYPE & ISFLAG_BEEN_IN_INV); 20:53:33 <|amethyst> spot the bug 20:53:46 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:52 heh 20:54:18 * geekosaur assumes that's a very verbose 0 20:54:24 <|amethyst> yup :) 20:54:26 -!- Helmschank has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:54:40 hehe 20:55:09 plus a dose of "why isn't this working? maybe if I put it here instead..." 20:55:17 <|amethyst> BEEN_IN_INV doesn't matter at all 20:55:23 <|amethyst> I have no idea why it exists 20:55:58 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:56:10 it doesn't affect autopickup or anything? 20:56:54 <|amethyst> only two things check it, and both of those apply to unrands only 20:57:09 <|amethyst> *and* the things that set it wouldn't apply to unrands 20:57:47 <|amethyst> it really means "you started with the item, or it is coagulated blood that was created in your inventory" 20:58:35 <|amethyst> ng-setup.cc:1352 // XXX: Why is this here? Elsewhere it's only ever used for runes. 20:58:51 <|amethyst> I guess that's why 20:59:10 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:59:22 -!- mnoqy has quit [Quit: hello] 21:00:01 <|amethyst> and I guess ISFLAG_KNOW_TYPE is more or less irrelevant here because set_ident_type(OBJ_POTIONS, POT_BLOOD_COAGULATED, ID_KNOWN_TYPE); 21:02:14 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:14 btw it would be nice if blood and porridge were pre-id'd 21:03:19 since the spoiler is silly 21:03:44 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:59 ??porridge 21:08:00 potion of porridge[1/2]: A special treat for Oliver Twist! 6040 nutrition. Gluggy white or gluggy brown potion. 21:08:10 ??blood 21:08:10 potion of blood[1/2]: Vampire food. Decays, but quicker to eat than sucking a corpse. And weighs less. Other species get only a very small amount of nutrition, and often get sick if they do not have gourmand or carnivore. Can also be wielded for {sublimation of blood}. 21:08:27 ??coagulated blood 21:08:28 coagulated blood[1/1]: What a {potion of blood} turns into after a while. Eventually rots and disappears. Provides less nutrition for vampires than the uncoagulated kind. 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23:28:40 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 23:28:44 yes 23:28:50 bug in an expect wrapper 23:28:56 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 23:29:10 <|amethyst> how was expect involved? 23:29:12 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:29:48 <|amethyst> oh, iterm2 has expect built-in? 23:29:50 wrapper that logs in to a server and preselects trunk. then goes to interactive, but was watching for the connection to close 23:29:51 no 23:29:58 <|amethyst> ah 23:30:10 <|amethyst> closing it then :) 23:30:31 -!- eith|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:30:44 unfortunately it was matching the literal string "EOF" instead of end-of-file on the connection, oops. ("not enough magic") 23:31:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:32:05 -!- Bloax has quit [Client Quit] 23:32:18 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 23:32:38 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 23:34:00 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:37:24 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:44:48 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13-a0-2606-g170388b (34) 23:46:58 * SamB flips geekosaur's switch to the "more magic" setting again 23:48:27 -!- Grathtarg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:51:30 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:54:05 -!- robotcentaur has joined ##crawl-dev 23:57:20 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:59:59 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle]