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has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:59:28 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:04:50 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:07:32 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:07:54 Anti-magic effect continues after applying vorpal scroll by Soner 03:08:47 good bug 03:09:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:11:12 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:11:19 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:15:41 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:18:18 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 03:19:38 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:46 -!- buki_ is now known as buki 03:22:30 -!- tolly has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:23:52 -!- LoremIpsum_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:29:19 -!- roborcentaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:31:33 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:36:14 -!- heteroy 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Would anyone here be able to help me compile DCSS with tiles? 04:10:21 -!- Aidenn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:11:46 what system 04:13:02 I'm on Bodhi Linux 04:14:46 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:16:20 i don't even know what that is but it should be pretty much what's listed on http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/downloads 04:17:02 It's a Ubuntu-based Distrobution of Linux.. I don't know, I'm just a bit lost as all. 04:17:05 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 04:17:26 -!- William is now known as Guest46082 04:18:23 >Once everything is installed correctly, all you really need to do is enter the source/ directory and type "make" 04:18:29 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:18:32 I did that, but there's no makefile. 04:19:10 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:19:53 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:22:03 it's on crawl-ref/crawl/source 04:22:44 One moment. 04:22:49 also don't forget it's make TILES=y (unless that's changed?) 04:23:20 I'm pretty sure it's TILES=y, just let me navigate to the directory. 04:24:52 Okay it's building.. I think this'll work. 04:29:22 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:31:12 -!- Ketsa has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 04:31:40 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:35:26 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:36:34 Nope, I don't think it worked.. I can't execute it with "./crawl" and I can't find an executable either. 04:36:53 I have the console version, that works fine, but not the tiled version. 04:38:49 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 04:42:49 thats because you have to type "make TILES=y" 04:43:01 "make" makes the console version 04:44:20 Yes, but I used "make TILES=y". 04:45:18 If I got a pastebin up, would you examine it? It's rather small but I can't make anything of it. 04:45:22 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:48:12 did it compile correctly? 04:48:18 maybe you need more libraries for the tiles version 04:48:38 Take a look at this; http://pastebin.com/W873yeKP 04:48:45 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:48:45 I can't make sense of it, bu maybe you can. 04:49:01 Oh, shit. 04:49:43 I didn't think that I might be missing dependencies.. 04:49:58 i don't know what auxlib is, but it has to be some sort of dependency yeah 04:50:49 there's a list on INSTALL.txt, try that before you do anything else 04:51:12 Yeah I used used that then, I'll try "make TILES=y" again. 04:54:07 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:54:28 Eh, no luck. 04:55:25 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 04:56:09 Even normal "make" doesn't work. 04:57:52 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:58:04 Eh, bugger this. Thank-you for your time. 04:58:13 -!- Artorias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:59:55 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:01:23 -!- blabber has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:02:02 -!- kait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:03:28 1tell artorias play online 05:07:52 -!- tali713 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:07:55 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 05:10:10 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:13:07 -!- tali713 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:15:48 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:15:48 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:18:02 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 05:23:12 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:26:52 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 05:27:21 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 05:29:03 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:29:17 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:45 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:32:16 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:33:30 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:37:30 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:40:55 -!- JuicyJ has quit [Client Quit] 05:40:58 -!- moxian has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:44:21 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:44:21 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:46:56 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:49:58 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:50:12 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:50:13 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:51:21 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 05:52:14 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 05:52:56 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:54:00 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:54:54 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:05:42 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:07:48 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:10:24 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:15:03 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:16:34 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:13 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:20 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:20:40 -!- johlstei__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:25:49 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:34:07 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37:25 -!- Momento has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:39:23 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:45:37 -!- mnoqy has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:40 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:51:28 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Pacra] 06:54:11 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55:19 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:11:36 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:15:37 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:18:35 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:20:34 -!- Vbitz has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:30:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:32:42 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:38:38 -!- kronusdark has quit [Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com] 07:47:01 does anyone else find it pretty weird that str/dex influence melee damage /except/ unarmed combat? 07:48:00 pretty sure UC is dex-weighted 08:01:40 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:04:19 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:18 -!- sacje has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:09:13 -!- Corn has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:36 hey guys, can someone give me a couple of pointers? 08:09:46 i want to set up a webtiles server 08:09:59 so i've got webtiles and crawl compiled 08:10:06 can even run the server 08:10:33 but after i login, and try clicking on an option, it goes to a loading screen and pops me back at the previous screen. 08:11:22 I wasnt sure what to do with the files after i compiled them, so i copied the contents of the webserver folder into the parent directory and ran server.py from there 08:11:28 anyone know what i've done wrong 08:14:01 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:15:48 you should talk to |amethyst 08:16:15 ok thanks, i'll wait here for a bit 08:16:37 or one of the other people who have recently set up webtiles servers, which I think includes TZer0 08:17:00 |amethyst was talking about writing down some instructions, but i dont know if he did 08:17:41 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:17:49 they should exist, i've scoured the net for them :P 08:18:05 plus a ton of prereq's for getting everything to compiler 08:18:49 Corn: did you read the README in the webserver folder? 08:19:17 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:19:56 checking now 08:20:13 Corn: the default settings are so that if you run server.py from the webserver folder (and compiled everything correctly), it should work 08:20:51 well ok, i still have copies of eveyrthing compiled, trying again now 08:27:56 -!- superderp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:29:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:37:30 ok when i compiled, i read the readme... mostly 08:37:35 i think i noticed what i've missed now 08:37:42 i was running from the wrong working directory 08:40:07 -!- tesudzi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:41:30 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:41:30 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:45:29 -!- Cozy is now known as Guest20044 08:48:01 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:50:05 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 08:50:17 -!- Guest20044 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:50:19 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:56:15 -!- sacje has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:07:03 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:15:32 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27:59 Teleported into room with no doors by tofucake 09:30:19 -!- ainsophy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:39 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:38:31 -!- ainsophy_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:39:03 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:51 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:44:34 <|amethyst> Hm, that's a weird bug. 09:44:49 <|amethyst> That's shiori_entry_elements, which is tagged no_rtele_into (the whole vault) 09:46:27 <|amethyst> oh 09:46:48 <|amethyst> no_rtele_into isn't a tag 09:48:11 <|amethyst> there are several other vaults that assume it is 09:48:32 would be nice if there was a way to tell things that aren't tags and error out on them 09:49:24 -!- mason-- has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:49:32 as in, things that are neither used for picking the vault nor are a valid flag 09:49:52 (I vaguely recall flags and tags being separate a long time ago, I wonder what prompted their merger) 09:51:18 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:04 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: oh god how do i internets] 10:02:50 <|amethyst> okay, I think I have a fix 10:03:02 <|amethyst> and as a bonus you can now do TAGS: bloody 10:05:00 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:06:27 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:17:33 -!- SchwaWarrior has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:17:52 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:19:18 <|amethyst> what to do about 0.12 ? 10:19:57 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2591-ga934a44: Allow kprops to be used as vault-wide tags (#7423) 10(9 minutes ago, 2 files, 19+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a934a44a1ee9 10:19:57 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-2592-g02992bf: Recognise property names in the vim levdes syntax. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=02992bf19872 10:20:06 -!- myrmidette has quit [Quit: myrmidette] 10:20:15 <|amethyst> I guess I can cherry-pick the whole commit, even if it does go a little further than one might prefer for a stable release... or I could special-case no_rtele and no_ctele 10:20:34 could fix the vaults individually if there aren't many of them 10:20:41 <|amethyst> there are nine 10:20:50 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:21:07 <|amethyst> fixing them by hand isn't trivial, since you have to list every glyph used in the vault 10:21:41 <|amethyst> I could special-case "no_rtele_into" and "no_ctele_into" for 0.12 10:22:08 I suppose that'd be non-intrusive enough 10:22:41 <|amethyst> hm 10:22:54 the patch doesn't seem that intrusive 10:23:00 for cherry-picking 10:23:01 <|amethyst> actually, I'll just double-check that no one uses any of the other potential tags, and if so cherry-pick it wholesale 10:23:17 <|amethyst> there are a few undocumented fprops 10:23:43 <|amethyst> okay, looks safe 10:26:16 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.12 10:27:20 <|amethyst> btw, "no_submerge", if it works, sounds like the kind of property we should mention in syntax.txt 10:27:29 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:27:38 <|amethyst> "mold" and "highlight" maybe not 10:28:07 <|amethyst> though the latter is intended for debugging so maybe so 10:29:41 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:30:35 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:32:04 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:37:18 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:37:19 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:39:59 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:43:26 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:56:31 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:59:26 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:06:32 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:15 -!- wya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:13:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:13:45 -!- mnoqy has quit [Quit: hello] 11:14:52 -!- whig has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 18.0.2/20130201065344]] 11:14:55 -!- Pera is now known as Guest34879 11:17:52 -!- Guest34879 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:29 What is the minimum version of the android OS for the android version of the game ? 11:19:17 What is the minium verios of the android OS for the android version of the game, ? 11:20:32 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:20 a pretty ancient one, if I recall correctly, but I don't know exactly 11:21:21 kilobyte: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:21:32 !messages 11:21:32 No messages for Guest34879. 11:22:06 Oke, is it stable ? 11:24:00 stable as in "stable version of Crawl", I don't know much feedback about it 11:24:34 it may have problems on certain configurations of hardware/os 11:24:36 Thank you 11:24:39 -!- Guest34879 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:26:39 -!- Ocqueoc is now known as tswett 11:26:49 I used to play it on a crappy android 2.1 tablet before that decided it didn't want to boot any more. that version just quit on startup on my android 4.0.3 phone, but a more recent one runs 11:32:52 -!- Corn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:35:06 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 22.0/20130626043228]] 11:37:05 -!- Psyknux has quit [Quit: My work is end \(^o^)/] 11:40:06 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:40:50 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:44:52 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:48:28 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:52:05 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:25 -!- tesudzi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:54:24 I loathe laptops and tablets, but I'll need a portable computer soon. No one had one for me to borrow, so I bought a ~$150 13.3" arm piece of crap -- just for a week, and I got a better headless small computer already, so I went cheap. Too cheap probably... 11:54:57 I left it dual-boot with Android, and I'll tell you: Crawl for android is unusable on a device with a physical keyboard but no touchscreen 11:57:15 it's a 13.3" what exactly? :P 11:57:19 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 11:57:28 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:57:58 a regular laptop 11:58:15 and it has android on it? oh dear 11:58:30 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:58:43 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:58:52 in my case, Debian as well 11:58:56 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:59:21 I'd say android on a regular computer is some bad joke 11:59:33 it is. A cruel one, at that. 12:00:56 heck, android even on a touchscreen device is occasionally a cruel joke 12:01:44 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:05 I tend to spew profanities about any phone that's not N900 (physical keyboard, etc...), so I agree, but I'm probably biased 12:04:06 I've got a galaxy s. It can make calls on a good day. I also occasioanlly use its other functions, but I usually end up regretting it at some point. 12:04:56 -!- kronusdark has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:31 -!- mnoqy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:21 hello, it's been a while since I tried to build crawl from git, but I am getting an error when its compiling libunix.o. are there any known issues there? 12:06:44 error in function int getchk() 12:06:49 Stable (0.12) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.12.2-14-g7c90c79 12:07:46 kronusdark: could you paste the error? 12:08:47 http://pastebin.com/s8DJGVDn 12:09:28 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:09:37 hmm, weird... what's your platform? 12:09:52 debian running on arm 12:10:14 I have compiled it before without issues probably ~ 4 months ago 12:10:20 its a tonido plug 12:10:44 and no message about a missing include? 12:11:08 nope, everything was peachy untill that line 12:11:28 im gonna double check the scrollback 12:13:30 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:28 just somw warnings about changes in GCC 4.4 12:14:51 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:14:58 oh, what version of Debian is that? 12:16:19 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:42 -!- axujen has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:17:08 hmm, it's the version that came on the plug how can i check? 12:17:22 cat /etc/apt/sources.list 12:17:44 squeeze 12:20:04 my last build on squeeze armel was yesterday pre-dawn, lemme check if something regressed 12:20:29 do you try trunk or 0.12? 12:20:46 (0.12 has no right to regress...) 12:21:36 I assume you have all dependencies installed, right? 12:21:50 i believe so, like I said i got no warnings about it 12:21:53 (if you did't, you'd get an error about a missing include, but just in case) 12:22:21 I was building trunk, could that be the issue? 12:22:27 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2592-g02992bf (34) 12:22:36 well its the master branch 12:23:50 yeah, trunk=master, it's the customary name here 12:24:21 i will give 0.12 a shot 12:24:53 works for me on armhf/unstable, armel/squeeze build is still going 12:25:43 i got 0.12 going, but it will likely take a bit, I will hang around till its done and let you know 12:25:55 -!- Wark- has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:26:29 i386/lenny finished too, so I doubt something broke down in Crawl itself 12:28:58 armel/squeeze is done 12:29:12 I'm afraid it's something wrong on your side 12:29:20 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2592-g02992bf 12:29:30 well, thats good to know, I will have to see what it is 12:29:40 thanks for trying. 12:29:43 could you please check dependencies again? As per the docs: 12:29:49 apt-get install build-essential libncursesw5-dev bison flex liblua5.1-0-dev libsqlite3-dev libz-dev pkg-config 12:29:49 -!- hopfn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:29:55 certainly 12:31:36 oh, well this is embarassing, looks like bison and flex were missing. 12:31:49 could have swore I installed them 12:32:40 those actually are not needed 12:32:52 really.. hmm 12:34:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:35:00 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:38:52 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:17 this error looks as if you're on ncurses rather than ncursesw, but that's kind of hard to believe with debian 12:39:43 -!- alefury has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:40:54 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:41:09 that might be the case actually. i apt-get installed ncurses-dev earlier, i was unaware of there being a difference 12:41:27 i use it for another apps 12:41:31 app* 12:44:09 kilobyte: so are you running virtual machines for your other builds? or do you just have several machines? 12:44:30 maybe something like jenkins? 12:45:50 chroots and physical machines 12:46:56 bh suggested using automated integration tests, for now I just run bi-nightlies on multiple architectures 12:52:16 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:11 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:01 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:07 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: oh god how do i internets] 12:58:48 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:48 -!- jeffro has quit [Changing host] 12:58:48 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:19 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 13:03:35 -!- robotcentaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:08:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:20:40 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24:10 -!- cptwinky has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:26:37 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:55 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:44:27 -!- mumra has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:44:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:45:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:47:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:47:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:50:52 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:50:54 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:53:42 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:55:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:09:29 -!- johnny0_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:00 -!- kilobyte_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11:47 -!- F-Glex has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:10 -!- flowsnake_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:31 -!- Zaba_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:09 -!- cjo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:29 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:20:15 -!- Kalir has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- Nightdew has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- alefury has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- axujen has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- Nightbeer has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- sacje has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- tali713 has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- Zaba has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- flowsnake has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- iasov has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- Cryp71c has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- G-Flex has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- Moredread has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- johnny0 has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- kilobyte has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- zoite has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:15 -!- varmin has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:55 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 14:20:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:28:33 -!- kronusdark has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 14:28:35 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:20 -!- johnny0_ is now known as johnny0 14:37:19 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:17 -!- Nightdew14 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:40:41 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 14:40:44 -!- tali713 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:31 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:42:48 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:38 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:44:50 -!- F-Glex is now known as G-Flex 14:44:57 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:49 -!- debo is now known as monocle 14:48:29 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 14:49:07 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:50:13 -!- robotcentaur has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:47 Note to Devs: design of new evocables on trunk like stone of tremors and phial of water are AWESOME. Well done. Saved me a couple of times and very fun to play with them. 14:55:12 <|amethyst> robotcentaur: you can thank DracoOmega more specifically for most of the new/updated evocables, including the elemental ones 14:55:32 <|amethyst> the Container of Creatures ones are mumra's 14:56:12 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:56:16 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:56:52 Thank you DracoOmega :) 14:57:08 The Sack of Spiders is also nice 14:59:48 [08:46:53] does anyone else find it pretty weird that str/dex influence melee damage /except/ unarmed combat? 14:59:48 [08:47:53] pretty sure UC is dex-weighted 14:59:55 hrm, someone told me otherwise, and that it doesn't scale with stats at all 15:00:00 I guess I was given wrong information probably?? 15:00:06 I thought it seemed implausible 15:02:01 <|amethyst> if I'm reading correctly, UC primary attacks are considered to have a str weight of 5 (see weapon_str_weight()) 15:03:34 -!- Pisano1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:03:38 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:21 <|amethyst> err, sorry, I am misreading 15:04:21 so it is scaled the same way a weapon is? that's what I thought made sense 15:04:38 <|amethyst> it looks like it doesn't scale with UC 15:04:45 oh 15:04:48 <|amethyst> in the normal way, that is 15:05:06 well my question is whether or not stats matter at all (except for form damage, where in many cases it's explicit) 15:05:07 <|amethyst> I believe it scales even better than "normal" 15:05:09 -!- tJener has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05:11 haha okay 15:05:26 see, I thought chei was helped unarmed damage but I wasn't sure 15:06:05 <|amethyst> yeah, unless I'm missing something entirely, stats affect the primary UC attack the same way they would affect a weapon 15:06:31 <|amethyst> they affect auxes in the same way, but the numbers are different 15:06:36 you just said it's better than normal though 15:06:37 ah 15:06:49 <|amethyst> no, I mean scaling with *skill* is better than normal 15:06:54 fr: make all this make sense 15:06:54 oh, I know that 15:06:58 -!- monocle is now known as debo 15:07:02 I was never talking about skill 15:07:26 <|amethyst> oh, and what I said ("doesn't scale with UC") was ambiguous 15:07:33 yeah 15:07:41 anyway, I think I get the gist of it now, thanks 15:08:04 <|amethyst> calc_stat_to_dam_base treats UC base attacks as having a str weight of 4 15:08:40 -!- Gotham_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:00 heh, I'm not sure what those numbers represent exactly 15:09:06 hey guys, weird error im getting on my server. "ERR: Webtiles require an UTF-8 local" except the locale already IS utf8 15:09:52 any ideas? 15:10:52 <|amethyst> G-Flex: that means that the effective stat used to calculate the damage bonus is 40% of the way between (str+dex)/2 and pure str 15:11:56 <|amethyst> G-Flex: (and for accuracy bonus is 40% of the way between pure dex and (str+dex)/2 ) 15:12:41 <|amethyst> aha, and the auxes actually do use the same weight, it's just written differently 15:13:07 -!- sacje has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:13:08 <|amethyst> (but the scale of the modifier is different) 15:13:21 Gotham_: if you use a chroot, you need to copy locale files in 15:13:22 -!- tJener has quit [Changing host] 15:13:29 -!- kilobyte_ is now known as kilobyte 15:14:53 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:15:36 sorry, which locale files? 15:16:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:17:26 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:18:58 <|amethyst> the locale definition files are usually under /usr/lib/locale or something like that for glibc; presumably you can just copy the directory for the locale you're using and any symlink targets. I usually just install the locales-all package inside the chroot but that's probably overkill 15:20:19 |amethyst: don't you get a chance to configure the locales package to your liking in a usual chroot? 15:20:24 ok thanks 15:21:32 <|amethyst> SamB: that would be an extra step, and 120 MiB is cheap :P 15:21:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 15:22:29 -!- tJener has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 15:24:13 -!- Duralumin has quit [Quit: Óõîæó ÿ îò âàñ (xchat 2.4.5 èëè ñòàðøå)] 15:24:51 -!- tJener has quit [Client Quit] 15:27:15 -!- tJener has quit [Changing host] 15:28:02 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 15:29:06 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:32:44 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:36:01 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:39:12 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:39:32 <|amethyst> kilobyte: so I see the binutils-gold package is now removed; do I have to do anything to tell my crawl compiles to use gold? 15:40:10 <|amethyst> kilobyte: or is it the default? 15:40:50 kilobyte: yeah did you make our buildsystem use that flag that I couldn't find in gcc.info 15:40:59 but only when it works 15:41:41 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:47:57 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:47 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 15:53:54 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:54:35 -!- tesudzi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:55:35 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:53 -!- Naruni has quit [] 16:00:41 -!- dosman711 is now known as dosman711` 16:08:09 -!- William is now known as Guest31965 16:10:19 -!- Guest46082 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:11:01 -!- tortuga has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:12:09 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:12:29 -!- Guest31965 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:13:11 -!- Furril has quit [Client Quit] 16:14:07 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:15:57 -!- Cheibrodos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:17:54 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:18:22 -!- zoite is now known as Guest77436 16:19:08 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:20:01 -!- maser34 has quit [Client Quit] 16:20:42 -!- the_glow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:21:13 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:22:12 -!- Furril has quit [Client Quit] 16:22:25 -!- skipdog172 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:23:09 -!- debo is now known as unwanted 16:25:29 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26:48 -!- nooodl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:27:37 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:29:41 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 16:31:43 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:32:09 -!- tortuga is now known as FlyingSquare 16:33:02 -!- Guest29797 has quit [Changing host] 16:33:05 -!- Guest29797 is now known as sacje 16:35:54 -!- Pisano has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:38:39 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:40:42 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:03 would it be reasonable for beastly appendage to give claws if you're not wielding a weapon? 16:42:16 (just noticed my DsTm with horns and boots on can't cast the spell) 16:42:26 <|amethyst> it used to give claws, but that was removed 16:42:32 oh? why's that? 16:42:39 <|amethyst> because none of the other mutations benefit from UC skill 16:42:45 <|amethyst> but claws do 16:42:58 do claws benefit in a way that normal punches don't? 16:43:21 <|amethyst> no, but the purpose of the spell is to give you an aux 16:43:23 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:29 <|amethyst> it isn't supposed to be better for unarmed players 16:43:41 hrm 16:43:43 that's fair I guess 16:43:54 <|amethyst> %git 0a87f5e 16:43:54 07elliptic02 * 0.12-a0-504-g0a87f5e: Beastly appendage: remove claws, allow horns on beaky chars. 10(11 months ago, 2 files, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a87f5eab1e3 16:43:59 -!- mnoqy has quit [Quit: hello] 16:44:11 Zenatrul (L2 CeHu) (D:2) 16:44:14 <|amethyst> maybe it could grant a beak if all else fails 16:44:21 <|amethyst> !lm Zenatrul crash -log 16:44:21 No milestones for Zenatrul (crash). 16:44:40 <|amethyst> !lm Zenatrul crash -log 16:44:41 1. Zenatrul, XL2 CeHu, T:895 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Zenatrul/crash-Zenatrul-20130802-214410.txt 16:45:00 <|amethyst> (but beak is weak compared to the other two) 16:45:59 <|amethyst> the Zenatrul "crash" appears to be sigterm, so killed by dgl or webtiles 16:46:23 -!- FlyingSquare has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:48:23 -!- Mistguided has quit [Client Quit] 16:55:49 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:57:53 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: oh god how do i internets] 16:58:24 -!- stabwound has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 16:58:56 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:08 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:26 -!- dmuray100 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:11:08 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:11 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:15:39 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:15:58 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Client Quit] 17:17:49 -!- Grathtarg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:20:25 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:23:42 -!- acerspyro has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:44 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:23:48 -!- moxian has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:00 Hello, Crawl on PowerPC linux crashes at every occasion, so I tried re-compiling it from source, and the compiler hangs at compiling a file looking like "abl-show, I think. I typed "make install" to install it btw. 17:25:10 Didn't cry at all, just died there. 17:25:53 <|amethyst> any more information if you do make V=1 install ? 17:26:01 ok, lemem try 17:26:13 -!- cjo_ has left ##crawl-dev 17:26:15 <|amethyst> (that shows command-line arguments) 17:26:16 Oh, speaking of make dying without cries - it does behave the same way on windows with make from mingw32 (not msysgit) 17:26:27 <|amethyst> hm 17:26:37 at least it was some half a year ago 17:26:54 I downloaded the latest source code for building 17:27:12 <|amethyst> I would suspect g++ is running out of memory or something, but that should produce an error return 17:27:16 And even trying to re-install the pre-compiled crawl, crashes randomly, or upon doing some actions. 17:27:16 <|amethyst> hm 17:27:36 Im htop, the compiler is noted with a "D". 17:27:46 in* 17:27:51 <|amethyst> D means it's hanging waiting for I/O 17:27:58 Like what? 17:28:12 <|amethyst> disk access for the .o or for temp files maybe 17:28:35 -!- unwanted is now known as debo 17:28:44 <|amethyst> well, D means it's doing I/O, not necessarily "hanging" 17:28:48 ok 17:30:16 <|amethyst> are you on NFS or something like that? 17:30:28 Another bug, not on this computer: If I type "crawl-sdl" in my real terminal, my computer halts 17:30:33 NFS? 17:30:38 <|amethyst> network file system 17:30:43 Nope 17:31:37 <|amethyst> the crawl-sdl thing could be either a video driver problem; or crawl is hanging while full-screen and the machine only appears to be halted 17:32:02 It's not answering to caps lock or num lock 17:32:33 <|amethyst> hm... next time see if you can ping the computer from elsewhere on the network 17:32:43 ok 17:33:06 <|amethyst> if the keyboard is grabbed by a full screen app (that is frozen), caps lock and num lock might not work correctly 17:33:27 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:34 <|amethyst> one possible cause for a startup freeze is a bad cache 17:34:31 <|amethyst> you can test by trying the console build; if it's the same version you'll get the same hang 17:34:37 <|amethyst> (in crawl only) 17:34:45 FIY: Just tested make from mingw32 again - it still crashes bringing down the terminal with itself. 17:34:51 <|amethyst> and if it's a different version it will probably rebuild the cache, fixing it 17:34:55 <|amethyst> hm 17:35:08 without any output whatsoever 17:35:13 -!- hopfn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35:15 <|amethyst> find your saves directory (not sure exactly where on Windows) and remove the "db" and "des" subdirectories 17:35:29 <|amethyst> hrm 17:36:01 <|amethyst> no clue what's going on with make... I have no idea why it would close the console window it's running in 17:36:35 <|amethyst> what version of make is it? 17:36:58 3.81 17:37:00 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:37:06 GNU Make 3.81 17:37:11 <|amethyst> same here, and on all the machines I build on 17:37:18 well, we certainly don't seem to have any catastrophic generic PowerPC issues 17:37:22 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:37:24 the one from msysgit works fine 17:37:36 at least not in the latest official Debian package 17:37:45 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:37:55 Yeah SamB knows I use debian, sorry for not saying 17:38:10 Ok, I'll try to bisect the makefile 17:39:02 acerspyro: well that's I'm actually only testing that because it's easier to just install that in a porterbox chroot than to actually build it there 17:39:42 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:43:21 -!- acerspyro has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:48:11 it crashes on line 689: CFWARN_L += $(shell w=-Wno-array-bounds;echo|$(GXX) -E - -Werror $$w >/dev/null 2>&1 && echo $$w) 17:48:27 commenting that out fixes crashing 17:48:48 and it even compiles things 17:49:08 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:51:26 -!- namad7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:52:52 -!- jetnerd has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:58:39 -!- cjo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:13 -!- Nivim has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:00:09 <|amethyst> what happens if you try running from the command line: w=-Wno-array-bounds;echo|g++ -E - -Werror $w && echo $w 18:00:47 "w" is not a binary that can be run 18:00:59 (or however this message translates into english) 18:01:04 <|amethyst> that's a variable assignment 18:01:07 <|amethyst> don't add spaces around it 18:01:15 <|amethyst> around the = I mean 18:01:16 i don't add 18:01:25 <|amethyst> ... 18:01:30 it's windows 18:01:36 <|amethyst> oh 18:02:00 <|amethyst> I wonder 18:02:02 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:14 <|amethyst> is make using CMD.EXE as its shell??? 18:02:25 oh yeah it does that 18:02:34 <|amethyst> that won't work 18:03:13 <|amethyst> we have plenty of sh syntax in our makefile 18:03:33 <|amethyst> though we do in a few places use $(shell sh -c 'blah') 18:03:38 <|amethyst> by no means everywhere though 18:03:48 <|amethyst> and I see plenty of 2>&1 and so on 18:04:22 I wouldn't swear to that not working in cmd.exe, but >/dev/null obviously won't 18:05:01 <|amethyst> how do you set SHELL and run make in Windows? 18:05:20 you could probably set it on the make commandline? 18:05:21 <|amethyst> it sounds like just setting it to be your bourne shell should do it 18:06:06 <|amethyst> ah, make SHELL=/whatever/bin/sh 18:07:08 <|amethyst> moxian: I'm out for a while; SamB knows this stuff better than me, talk to him :) 18:07:31 |amethyst, ok 18:08:41 I seem to have memories of "don't use this make, it doesn't actually work" associated with one of two MinGW make executables 18:10:45 -!- ahahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:11:34 moxian: are you running mingw32-make.exe or just make.exe? 18:11:48 just make 18:12:53 maybe mingw32-make would do better 18:13:54 Yes, it doesn't crash 18:14:02 thansk 18:14:07 s/sk/ks/ 18:15:15 my MinGW+MSYS install doesn't even HAVE a MinGW copy of make.exe, just mingw32-make.exe; the only make.exe is the MSYS one 18:15:42 yes, I think I was running the msys one 18:16:02 and for some reason I didn't think they would be any different 18:17:05 hmm, the MSYS one usually works though 18:17:13 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:23:52 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:24:23 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:24:46 mingw32-make did build a (console) binary fine and runnable. 18:38:38 -!- Gotham_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:38:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:51:52 -!- cjo_ has left ##crawl-dev 19:03:47 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:12 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:13 -!- gammafunk has quit [Client Quit] 19:08:15 -!- FlyingSquare has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:10:21 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:10:45 It boils down to being unable to redirect stderr of "g++ -E - {whatever}" from console works fine. Redirecting streams of other programs in $shell works fine too. Can we maybe leave stderr ot this very command (gcc reading from stdin) alone? Here on windows this stderr is empty anyway... 19:11:18 (yes, I am confusing gcc and g++, but I have tested both) 19:13:45 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:18:21 -!- heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:32 -!- y2s82 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 19:21:57 -!- Foonesh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:22:32 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Quitting] 19:26:21 -!- Vbitz has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 19:27:03 -!- Vbitz has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 19:27:05 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:27:43 -!- Vbitz has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 19:27:49 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 19:27:53 Any idea why I might be getting a blank screen on my new hypernivim account every time I try playing? 19:29:37 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 19:34:32 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:34:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:36:19 does hitting space/enter/esc help? 19:36:52 No idea why, but i heard it might help 19:39:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:43:57 -!- FlyingSquare has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:45:34 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:28 -!- MistGuided has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:00:30 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:02:04 <|amethyst> Nivim: in console I see the skill menu 20:02:18 <|amethyst> Nivim: so probably escape will work 20:02:39 |amethyst: I currently have it working; it was actually stuck in character creation, and jamming esc several times did the trick. 20:03:11 Sorry about not getting back on that, but TrWr as first hyper character. 20:03:43 <|amethyst> Nivim: if you can reproduce it, #7358 is related 20:03:54 <|amethyst> (or even if you can't) 20:15:00 -!- Danei has quit [Quit: Those who tell the truth shall die, those who tell the truth shall live forever.] 20:17:12 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:17:43 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:28:43 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 20:30:19 -!- MistGuided has quit [Client Quit] 20:32:16 -!- moxian has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:32:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:36:15 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:38:04 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 20:38:17 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 20:40:07 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:37 -!- acerspyro has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:03 Hey sorry for later, we had a power outage, it happens so often >.> 20:45:07 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:48:48 -!- Guest77436 is now known as zoite 20:49:18 -!- zoite is now known as Guest73562 20:49:47 By the way, I like reading your source code for learning :) 20:50:08 Learning how not to code? 20:50:09 <_< 20:50:16 Why? 20:50:22 (I'm joking :b) 20:50:25 lol 20:50:29 -!- mnoqy has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:31 Some parts of the codebase are kind of messy. 20:50:40 Not necessarily as bad as, say, NetHack, but still. 20:50:46 Some coders actually told me that I wasn't doing it right 20:51:00 -!- doome has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:51:13 -!- Guest73562 is now known as zoite 20:51:18 -!- zoite has quit [Changing host] 20:51:26 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 20:51:27 Odd part is that they told me to use #pragma instead of #define 20:51:44 I still use #define because I don't know how to use #pragma 20:51:46 ...what are you coding, and who are you talking to? 20:51:49 You 20:52:08 I mean, 20:52:14 who's telling you about #pragma and such? 20:52:19 Oh 20:52:31 <|amethyst> #pragma once maybe? 20:52:36 The #c++ channel on irc.esper.net, I think 20:53:29 <|amethyst> IMHO #pragma once is only something you should do if you're explicitly restricting yourself to a given list of compilers 20:53:58 ok 20:54:28 <|amethyst> it's nonstandard, and compilers often ignore #pragmas they don't understand, so if you're using a compiler that doesn't support it (there aren't many of those) or using flags that disable that support (that's more likely) you'd have an unprotected header 20:54:46 I prefer #define anyways 20:55:08 <|amethyst> that said, in something like Crawl where we support a total of three compilers, it probably wouldn't be that bad an idea 20:55:22 <|amethyst> except there isn't a lot of reason to change something that isn't broken 20:56:33 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:58:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:00:15 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:02:21 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:02:31 -!- VolteccerJack_ is now known as VolteccerJack 21:04:23 -!- Undo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:04:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 21:04:33 well, it's faster, I think. 21:04:37 DCSS takes way too long to compile. 21:09:12 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Pacra] 21:10:25 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:11:26 -!- Jayrays has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:19:07 -!- mason-- has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:23:39 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:25:13 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:32:01 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 21:32:12 (betting this is mislead-related:) 21:32:17 !lm timbw crash -log 21:32:18 4. timbw, XL17 DjBe, T:44846 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/timbw/crash-timbw-20130803-023200.txt 21:32:20 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 21:32:34 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 21:32:49 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 21:34:38 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 21:35:43 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 21:36:11 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 21:36:31 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 21:36:45 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 21:37:19 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 21:37:29 I think timbw may be crashing 21:37:35 yea... 21:38:47 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 21:39:06 hes just meleeing a crystal golem from the looks of things 21:40:02 i remember hearing about some other misled crashes recently 21:40:06 maybe this is the same thing 21:40:27 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:21 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:27 elliott: gee, what could POSSIBLY give that impression 21:47:00 SamB, sorry I left, power outage 21:47:46 That kind of thing always fall on me... 21:48:18 acerspyro: so, are you sure your computer is actually working? 21:48:34 ? 21:48:49 -!- Nivim has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 21:49:11 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:14 Just like that before wasting more of everyone's time, I have 5 GB of swap on an USB high-speed device and 60 MB of RAM 21:49:35 oO 21:49:58 To add swap on an usb device -> swapon /dev/sda1 21:50:02 are you running on a pentium 133 or something? 21:50:06 No 21:50:09 PowerPC 21:50:11 iMac G3 21:50:23 nice 21:50:30 Got debian on it 21:52:17 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:01:45 !lg nope s=ckiller 22:01:45 250 games for nope: 12x an orc, 12x a kobold, 11x an orc priest, 10x a centaur, 10x a hobgoblin, 9x an ogre, 9x a gnoll, 8x an adder, 7x a player ghost, 7x an orc wizard, 7x a goblin, 7x an orc warrior, 5x winning, 5x an iguana, 5x an ice beast, 5x a worker ant, 4x trap, 4x a giant cockroach, 4x a hydra, 4x Terence, 3x Joseph, 3x a troll, 3x quitting, 3x wild magic, 3x Grinder, 3x a giant gecko, 2... 22:01:56 !lg . s=ckiller 22:01:56 1159 games for Grunt: 67x an orc priest, 62x a kobold, 57x an adder, 52x an orc wizard, 51x a hobgoblin, 44x a gnoll, 44x a player ghost, 36x a centaur, 34x an ogre, 33x an orc, 33x an orc warrior, 28x a jackal, 27x a goblin, 27x Sigmund, 20x Grinder, 19x winning, 19x a giant gecko, 15x a hydra, 15x a killer bee, 14x acid, 14x Crazy Yiuf, 13x pois, 12x a bat, 12x a scorpion, 9x a centaur warrior, ... 22:04:45 !lg * killer~~Jessica killer!=Jessica 22:04:46 12. patrick the Unbeliever (L4 CeDK), slain by Jessica the human zombie (a +2,+1 dwarven dagger of venom) (animated by the player character) on D:2 on 2013-05-24 09:03:37, with 171 points after 796 turns and 0:02:25. 22:04:48 !lg * killer~~Jessica killer!=Jessica s=killer 22:04:48 12 games for * (killer~~Jessica killer!=Jessica): 2x Jessica the human zombie, 2x Jessica the kobold, 2x Jessica, the green rat, Jessica, the human, Jessica, the warg, Jessica the orange rat, Jessica the raven (glowing shapeshifter), Jessica, the pulsating lump, Jessica the gnoll 22:06:45 -!- tesudzi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:07:38 -!- Sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:42 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 22:11:15 -!- scorchgeek has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:04 -!- marcmagus has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:17:38 -!- Foonesh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:24:57 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 22:26:35 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:28:20 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:30:06 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 22:32:17 ',:o? 22:34:55 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:35:21 -!- galehar_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:30 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:37:30 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:37:30 -!- galehar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:37:30 -!- marcmagus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:37:30 -!- cptwinky has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:37:30 -!- atrodo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:37:43 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:31 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:50:28 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:51:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:53:10 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:55:16 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 22:59:22 -!- acerspyro has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:07:05 -!- Nightdew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:07:46 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:08:04 hey -- can someone spectate my game on cszo? I think I just came across a bug with doors 23:13:06 Stable (0.12) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.12.2-14-g7c90c79 23:13:21 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:14:05 -!- Cunnus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:16:41 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.13-a0-2593-g287f5fb: Remove unnecessary no_ctele_into and runed doors from a vault 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=287f5fb8ea13 23:16:41 03cjo02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.13-a0-2594-ge27a203: Recalculate mp when rebranding an antimagic weapon 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e27a2034d225 23:16:41 03cjo02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.13-a0-2595-g1ff05fd: Allow lava orcs to turn off boots of flying while over lava 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ff05fd672f1 23:16:41 03cjo02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.13-a0-2596-ga588b26: Allow use-id of rPoison when hit by needles 10(9 hours ago, 2 files, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a588b26c5ef2 23:16:41 03ChrisOelmueller02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.13-a0-2597-gf66cb84: More padding fixes for ternary operator 10(3 days ago, 17 files, 31+ 31-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f66cb844ab65 23:16:41 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.13-a0-2598-g4d1f75f: Don't use spirit wolves in chimeras 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d1f75f48011 23:16:41 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.13-a0-2599-g94c4477: New sprint map by st_: linesprint 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1089+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=94c4477e3d98 23:17:01 ??rebranding 23:17:01 I don't have a page labeled rebranding in my learndb. 23:18:11 -!- Helmschank has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:18:57 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 23:19:17 is there a txt or any docs for lua scripting? 23:19:32 relevant to crawl objects 23:20:29 inventory() you.floor_items() etc 23:22:03 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.13-a0-2600-g811f1de: Make the initial noise of Song of Slaying the same as the per-turn noise 10(17 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=811f1deea9a7 23:22:53 timbw (L17 DjBe) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1899 failed. (Swamp:4) 23:23:19 <|amethyst> !lm timbw crash -log 23:23:19 16. timbw, XL17 DjBe, T:44849 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/timbw/crash-timbw-20130803-042253.txt 23:27:00 -!- nooodl has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 23:28:54 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:12 -!- F-Glex has joined ##crawl-dev 23:41:19 -!- Undo has quit [] 23:41:43 <|amethyst> another mislead bug 23:43:05 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:03 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13-a0-2600-g811f1de (34) 23:44:23 we should remove mislead ;) 23:44:30 ??unarmed combat[2] 23:44:30 unarmed combat[2/3]: Base for forms: Normal/Hog 3, Spider 5 (venom), Bat 1, Vampire bat 2 (vamp), Ice beast 12 (ice), Blade hands 8 + (str + dex) / 3, Statue (6 + str / 3), Dragon 12 + str*2/3, Lich 5 (drain). Form base damage scales with skill, just like normal punches. 23:44:30 ??dragon form[2] 23:44:30 dragon form[2/4]: Base unarmed damage = (20 + str*(2/3) + unarmed_skill), +10 str, flight, rPois+ rFire++ rCold-, ability to breathe fire, 34% GDR, +16 AC, huge size (will nuke your EV) 23:44:30 which of these is correct re: dragon form damage? 23:44:30 drat, Henzell isn't working 23:44:30 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 23:44:30 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:44:30 -!- atrodo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:44:30 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:44:52 okay there we go 23:44:58 note the discrepancy 23:45:02 <|amethyst> hm 23:45:38 <|amethyst> the monster in question is an orc priest with props["faking"] 23:45:44 <|amethyst> which only mara should have 23:46:10 <|amethyst> mara is on the level 23:48:49 <|amethyst> but props["faking"] is a non-existent monster that doesn't seem to be part of menv 23:52:06 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:55:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:55:28 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:55:57 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:56:11 tbh 23:56:27 i think props is responsible for a lot of hard-to-find errors 23:56:46 i don't know why props exists 23:57:19 and it'd be better to use some sort of system of OOP handlers which can perform self-marshall/unmarshall 23:57:21 <|amethyst> I think in this case _clone_monster was called on a heap-allocated monster* 23:57:37 <|amethyst> oh 23:58:05 <|amethyst> never mind, I misread the code 23:58:28 <|amethyst> new_fake->props["faking"] = *mons; so of course it's a copy not in menv 23:58:32 -!- F-Glex is now known as G-Flex 23:58:49 <|amethyst> I guess that's being unmarshalled incorrectly