00:03:25 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2368-g1f063cc (34) 00:05:56 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.13-a0-2368-g1f063cc (34) 00:06:47 -!- buppy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:09:28 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:11:00 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:41 Also if we're to talk about improvements on item destruction terms. 00:11:54 Then making the actual destruction based on damage somehow would already be an improvement. 00:12:05 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2368-g1f063cc (34) 00:12:17 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:12:56 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Pacra] 00:13:27 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:35 So that item destruction will still exist if you actually take a hit. 00:13:45 But dumb crap like 00:13:49 The deep elf knight casts a spell at you. 00:13:49 _The puff of flame hits you! You resist. Your scroll of blinking catches fire! 00:13:50 Won't. 00:15:09 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:15:32 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:48 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 00:23:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:26:03 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:26:31 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:28:51 !learn add Might When a monster is under this effect (shows as "unusually strong") - it does 50% more damage than usually. 00:28:51 might[2/2]: When a monster is under this effect (shows as "unusually strong") - it does 50% more damage than usually. 00:29:00 !learn del Unusually_strong 00:29:01 Deleted unusually strong[1/1]: This monster is under the might effect and does 50% more damage. 00:29:12 !learn add Unusually_strong See Might[2] 00:29:13 unusually strong[1/1]: See Might[2] 00:30:13 <|amethyst> !learn edit unusually_strong s/.*/see {might[2]}/ 00:30:14 unusually strong[1/1]: see {might[2]} 00:30:20 <|amethyst> ??unusually strong 00:30:21 might[2/2]: When a monster is under this effect (shows as "unusually strong") - it does 50% more damage than usually. 00:30:33 ah 00:31:01 <|amethyst> (uppercase See might work; I haven't tried because lowercase is conventional 00:31:05 <|amethyst> ) 00:31:16 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:33:45 !learn add foo See {might} 00:33:46 foo[1/1]: See {might} 00:33:49 ??foo 00:33:50 might[1/2]: +1d10 melee damage and 5 Strength. 00:33:56 !learn del foo 00:33:57 Deleted foo[1/1]: See {might} 00:34:55 !learn edit might[2] s/usually/usual/ 00:34:55 might[2/2]: When a monster is under this effect (shows as "unusual strong") - it does 50% more damage than usually. 00:35:00 oh, nice 00:35:02 !learn edit might[2] s/usually/usual/ 00:35:03 might[2/2]: When a monster is under this effect (shows as "unusual strong") - it does 50% more damage than usual. 00:35:10 !learn edit might[2] s/usual/usually/ 00:35:10 might[2/2]: When a monster is under this effect (shows as "unusually strong") - it does 50% more damage than usual. 00:36:41 fweep fweep fweep 00:38:20 -!- Foonesh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:39:09 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-2368-g1f063cc 00:40:15 -!- mason-- has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:55:22 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:03:26 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:58 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:05:29 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:29 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:07:50 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:08:02 !learn add xom http://oglaf.com/sithrak/ 01:08:03 xom[8/8]: http://oglaf.com/sithrak/ 01:08:56 -!- bh has quit [Client Quit] 01:09:28 is there any reason my oklob plant wouldn't shoot at a ghost of a fedhasite? 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Is that intended? Or a bug? 05:37:57 -!- Villadelfia has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:39:14 -!- Villadelfia has joined ##crawl-dev 05:41:06 ok nvm that was in shoals 05:48:42 -!- TiggA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:48:50 !messages 05:48:50 No messages for TiggA. 05:51:15 -!- Wehk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:57:10 -!- Vandal is now known as Ganrao 05:57:34 -!- absolutego has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:06:53 -!- Sky2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:20:25 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:21:34 -!- Pacra has quit [Client Quit] 06:22:57 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:27:20 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 06:38:19 -!- Peep has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:45:55 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:00:33 -!- moxian has joined ##crawl-dev 07:04:21 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:09:06 -!- ORANGEBOX has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:19:12 !learn edit xom[8] s/$/ (warning, SFW)/ 07:19:13 xom[8/8]: 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santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:12 do we have a code style that I can import into eclipse? 12:19:44 <|amethyst> bh: not encoded in a way that eclipse would understand, but docs/develop/coding_conventions.txt 12:19:53 -!- mnoqy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:01 |amethyst: hm. perhaps I should make one 12:20:34 I've always just used vim for C/C++, but I'm jonesing for refactoring 12:21:26 -!- mason-- has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:22:13 -!- moxian has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:05 Does the team have a position on C++11? 12:23:39 -!- orionstein has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:23:40 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 12:27:22 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:29:32 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:29 `auto` can be really nice 12:37:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:38:16 -!- orionstein has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 12:38:16 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 12:40:42 -!- orionstein has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:40:42 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 12:42:53 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:48 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:45:02 -!- Nexos has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:55 -!- Solace has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:52:43 bh: I made one for emacs, and it was pretty easy. Should be even easier for eclipse :) 12:53:22 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:36 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:38 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:59:51 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:00:19 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:45 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:08:33 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:10:22 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:11:28 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:12:44 -!- orionstein has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 13:12:44 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 13:13:24 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:38 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:09 -!- orionstein has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 13:16:09 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 13:18:03 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:18:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:19:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:24 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:38 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:57 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:23:36 -!- Ladykiller69 is now known as Sithrak 13:26:27 -!- Sithrak is now known as Ladykiller69 13:26:43 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:20 -!- orionstein has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 13:35:37 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:26 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:39:40 -!- orionstein has quit [Client Quit] 13:40:27 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 13:41:14 -!- orionstein has quit [Client Quit] 13:43:18 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 13:48:28 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:43 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:32 -!- Duralumin has quit [Quit: Óõîæó ÿ îò âàñ (xchat 2.4.5 èëè ñòàðøå)] 13:52:08 !seen SamB 13:52:09 I last saw SamB at Sat Jul 13 08:39:47 2013 UTC (10h 12m 22s ago) saying '??labs' on ##crawl. 13:54:18 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:24 DracoOmega: do you see any issues with using C++11? 13:58:06 Wasn't one of the problems with it that it wasn't supported by compilers that could build for Mac PPC? I seem to recall SOME reason we couldn't use it here. 13:58:27 But I am not certain what the specific reason was 13:58:33 Do we plan on supporting Mac PPC indefinitely? 13:58:47 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:59:55 The last PPC machines shipped in 2006 14:00:09 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:20 I have no idea 14:01:27 Not really my domain here, I am afraid 14:02:51 ah. I thought you and SamB were buildmasters 14:04:31 Not I, certainly 14:04:46 quite a lot of systems still don't have a C++11 capable compiler 14:04:59 like, one of |amethyst's boxes 14:05:08 huh. I figured clang worked everywhere 14:05:25 no, only pretty recent clang can build Crawl at all 14:06:20 as far as I know, versions of xCode that have it drop not only PPC Macs but also most other versions 14:07:02 on systems with reasonable system headers, you can backport both gcc and clang pretty easily. On OS X, not so. 14:07:29 (I'm mostly repeating what other said though, I don't have access to working OS X myself) 14:08:14 IIRC clang 3.0 can do it with some handholding, I never tested 3.1, 3.2 works out of the box 14:10:17 if I recall correctly, one bug in clang I reported is fixed in some point release of 3.0, so if a version of xCode has 3.0, it might or might not have it working 14:11:43 [disclaimer: what I say might be totally out of whack, as usually...] 14:12:46 -!- Camicio has quit [] 14:13:03 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:15:14 -!- DracoOmega_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:50 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:19:29 -!- DracoOmega_ is now known as DracoOmega 14:20:20 Is there any way to use !killratio with other parameters (eg: restrict by xl or date or something)? 14:20:35 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 14:22:45 !killratio sigmund xl>10 14:22:47 sigmund wins 0.0% of battles against MarvinPA. 14:23:21 hm, it worked when i specified a player 14:23:29 !killratio * sigmund xl>10 14:23:30 No battles for * and sigmund (xl>10). 14:23:38 !killratio sigmund marvinpa xl>2 14:23:38 !killratio sigmund * xl>10 14:23:41 !killratio sigmund marvinpa xl>1 14:23:43 sigmund wins 15.01% of battles against marvinpa (xl>2). 14:23:44 sigmund wins 0.0% of battles against * (xl>10). 14:23:44 sigmund wins 16.71% of battles against marvinpa (xl>1). 14:24:06 Hmmm... kind of odd 14:24:08 but i don't know if it needs changing to work without specifying a player 14:24:12 -!- Wehk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:35 I hadn't tried specifying a player, so I just assumed it didn't work that way, or some other syntax was required 14:28:29 !killratio sigmund * alpha 14:28:32 sigmund wins 24.88% of battles against * (alpha). 14:28:34 !killratio sigmund * !alpha 14:28:37 sigmund wins 29.89% of battles against * (!alpha). 14:31:27 In any case, thanks 14:31:57 -!- Melum has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:35:20 -!- Wehk_ has left ##crawl-dev 14:36:20 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 14:37:52 stable players: 5% worse than trunk players 14:40:24 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:43:50 ontoclasm: more like trunk sigmund is more powerful 14:44:20 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Client Quit] 14:45:06 -!- sacje has quit [Quit: sacje] 14:45:42 ah yes, of course 14:46:02 i forgot we changed the rng to give more ood spawns and groups of uniques 14:46:27 -!- Rebenga has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:53:02 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:54:45 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:59:05 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Pacra] 14:59:42 -!- doctorfrog has quit [] 15:07:25 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:09:37 -!- Melum has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:11:24 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:38 -!- dcss24486 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:15:50 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:16:38 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:13 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:16 -!- Dr_Ke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:20:07 !seen mumra 15:20:24 I last saw mumra at Sat Jul 13 12:04:21 2013 UTC (8h 15m 54s ago) quitting with message 'Ping timeout: 264 seconds'. 15:22:12 I don't suppose anyone remembers what branch that commit of his that extended the spell limit for saves beyond 256? I can't seem to find it. 15:23:26 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:36 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:02 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:25:05 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 15:26:41 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:27:34 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 15:28:03 <|amethyst> %git summons-tweaks 15:28:03 07mumra * 0.13-a0-2244-gad1b86d: Marshall spell types as short instead of byte 10(10 days ago, 2 files, 27+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad1b86d04a80 15:28:14 <|amethyst> DracoOmega: ^ 15:28:20 Thanks 15:29:47 -!- whale has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:30:52 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:53 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36:42 -!- whale has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:29 I'm trying to think of a joke about me being attached to clinging, but I can see the point about it not doing much (compared to flying) while being complex. 15:41:46 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdou] 15:43:42 -!- Melum has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:48:23 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:15 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2371-g088829f: A monster implementation for Freeze 10(6 days ago, 2 files, 61+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=088829fc2fe2 15:54:15 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2372-gcbe0904: Make deep elf summoners more distinct 10(29 hours ago, 6 files, 38+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cbe0904a932c 15:54:15 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2373-gd59f610: Make deep elf priests more distict 10(26 hours ago, 7 files, 89+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d59f610a27a5 15:54:15 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2374-g95ba3b2: Unlink Draconian Zealot and Deep Elf High Priest spellbooks 10(26 hours ago, 2 files, 12+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=95ba3b235b3b 15:54:15 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2375-g842e249: Revamp Deep Elf Mage spellbooks 10(6 hours ago, 3 files, 64+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=842e249095e5 15:54:15 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2376-g5296819: Remove Deep Elf Soldiers (plus band/vault adjustments) 10(3 hours ago, 26 files, 54+ 103-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=52968190ec63 15:54:15 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2377-gb991b93: Deep Elf Conjurer tweaks 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 9+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b991b93f2e2b 15:54:15 03mumra 07* 0.13-a0-2378-g3d286aa: Marshall spell types as short instead of byte 10(10 days ago, 2 files, 27+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3d286aa69a9c 15:54:15 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2379-g257cfa1: Adjust some deep elf monster XP modifiers 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=257cfa1eb08c 15:54:15 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2380-g4fa172d: Tweak Elven Halls spawn weights 10(20 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fa172de04b1 15:56:46 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:17 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59:39 Keskitalo: I'd love to see god's decrease in complexity 16:03:19 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:10:03 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:55 Woo draining revamp 16:10:56 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 16:15:47 -!- Melum has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:19:34 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:57 -!- F-Glex has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:57 -!- F-Glex has quit [Client Quit] 16:21:31 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:22:03 -!- sbanwart has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:28 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:30:51 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31:05 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:19 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:19 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:31:39 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 16:32:01 Nice elf tweaks 16:32:30 Thanks :) 16:36:36 bh: huh? they dont seem that complex to me 16:37:04 clearly he's talking about just nemelelelelex 16:37:05 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 16:38:08 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:39:16 nemelex could lose deck weighting 16:39:25 -!- TiggA has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:41:53 other tweaks could be getting rid of Dungeons, removing some of its cards and moving the rest elsewhere -- the biggest reason to keep it is giving a reason to sac jewels and books 16:42:52 Trowel could easily fit into Wonders, I think 16:43:08 and making pure decks more pure wrt situations you're supposed to use them (Alchemist out of Wonders as it's not strategic, for example) 16:43:22 Trowel 1 and 2 are pointless, too 16:43:26 That is true 16:43:30 Would be nice if they weren't, somehow 16:43:49 But I wouldn't want to lose trowel 3 because of this 16:44:05 solution 1: try to come up with an idea, solution 2: spawn it in legendary decks only 16:44:17 yeah, one of most interesting cards 16:45:13 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:46:06 Option 2 certainly seems better than status quo 16:46:30 But I mush dash now, I am afraid 16:46:34 Farewell! 16:46:40 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:49:54 hm. split up the kinds of things it can make, 0/shop (or maybe something lame like Sewer) 1/lesser portal 2/greater portal? 17:01:50 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:10:15 -!- nooodl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:11:28 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:13:09 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 17:15:21 -!- Helmschank has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:21:25 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 17:24:02 -!- Kenran has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:31:32 -!- mason-- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:32:09 -!- dupo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:33:15 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:43 -!- whale has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:43:41 -!- tesudzi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:45:03 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:47:39 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:48:03 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:30 -!- Thyme has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:55:27 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:55:31 alefury: I think gods would be simplified if there was actually a god class. That way we could have a Nemelex subclass that handled all the nemelex behavior 17:57:22 oh, you mean just the code? 17:57:45 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:59:06 <|amethyst> bh: OTOH splitting up the code that way could make some things more scattered than they are 17:59:36 <|amethyst> bh: not to say the current situation doesn't need improvement—I just don't know if inheritance is the right solution 18:00:22 I'm not sure if there's anything inheritance would get us 18:00:34 <|amethyst> I'd like to see as much as possible in a table at the very least 18:00:34 having god powers as a table, though, could help 18:00:49 <|amethyst> "does this god like kills of demons? does this god like kills of eldritch beings? etc" 18:01:50 like, instead of if (you.religion == GOD_MARDUK && you.piety >= piety_breakpoint(3) && !you.penance[you.religion]), we could have if (god_power(GP_GARLIC_BREATH)) 18:02:55 |amethyst: sure, if it was all encapsulated in a class gods could become data 18:02:58 as a downside, it would make coding that moth of nihilism idea I hate trivial :p 18:03:21 moth of nihilism is nearly redundant with silent spectre. 18:03:27 yeah 18:04:00 <|amethyst> bh: yeah, but if each god is a subclass (which was my main objection) most of that stuff would need to be code rather than data 18:04:14 |amethyst: your suggestion is better :) 18:04:15 <|amethyst> a god class makes sense 18:04:22 and it gets us randgods for free'ish 18:04:33 moth of nihlism is merely a stepping stone towards the unique Mothra: a moth with every aura possible 18:04:41 buppy: :( 18:04:41 :p 18:04:45 <|amethyst> BTW, about holiness. . . What about dividing it into ~3 parts: "underlying nature": (natural, supernatural, artificial), "inherent alignment": (good, evil, neutral, maybe chaos), and "life": (alive, undead, nonliving) 18:05:00 <|amethyst> I guess plants would still need some kind of special case 18:05:12 just add it to life 18:05:49 then Draco could make natural evil plant fungus things 18:06:30 <|amethyst> but then we could represent djinn (supernatural neutral alive), abominations (eldritch evil undead), maybe servitors (supernatural good+evil undead?) 18:06:52 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:06 <|amethyst> actually I guess aboms would be artificial evil undead 18:07:19 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 18:07:41 isn't eldritch more of an alignment? 18:07:42 <|amethyst> hm 18:07:50 <|amethyst> bh: perhaps that's it 18:08:04 <|amethyst> artificial eldritch undead 18:08:04 cthulhu: supernatural, eldritch, sleeping 18:08:31 <|amethyst> at one extreme, you can just make everything a flag 18:08:44 <|amethyst> natural supernatural good evil nonliving undead 18:08:50 that runs the danger of incoherent combinations 18:08:56 <|amethyst> yeah 18:09:33 What would be the gameplay effect of evil v. eldritch? God approval? 18:09:54 <|amethyst> perhaps 18:09:59 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:06 <|amethyst> actually, perhaps eldritch makes sense as a flag 18:10:16 <|amethyst> eldritch evil vs eldritch neutral 18:10:26 -!- Thyme has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:44 in general I'm supportive of this, but we'd need some demonstrable gameplay effect 18:10:54 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:11:03 <|amethyst> I was thinking no gameplay effects if possible 18:12:14 then why have it 18:12:18 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:12:25 does silver hurt eldritch monsters? 18:12:26 ??silver 18:12:27 silver[1/1]: +5% damage per mutation (up to *1.75), 1.75x vs chaotic things (marked as such in their description). This means shapeshifters, mutaters, ugly things, abominations, Tiamat, Killer Klowns, chaos spawns, chaos butterflies. 18:12:38 thrashing horror (08X) | Spd: 25 | HD: 9 | HP: 33-64 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 1707(trample), 907(trample) | 11non-living, 10doors, !sil | Res: 06magic(60), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 841 | Sp: might | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 18:12:38 %??thrashing horror 18:12:47 chaos spawn (053) | Spd: 11 | HD: 6 | HP: 20-47 | AC/EV: 7/12 | Dam: 2109(chaos) | 05demonic, see invisible | Res: 06magic(56), 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 199 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 18:12:47 %??chaos spawn 18:14:37 oh, well that explains why silver darts are so useless :/ 18:14:46 red ugly thing (05u) | Spd: 11 (act: 110%) | HD: 8 | HP: 29-56 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 1104(fire:8-15) | 10doors | Res: 06magic(32), 05fire, 04napalm | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 213 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 18:14:46 %??ugly thing 18:15:10 um.. hrm 18:15:16 -!- grimdox has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:16:22 oh. that sucks 18:16:33 |amethyst: do you use "eldritch" as "demonic/angelic", or as "abyssal"? 18:16:37 monster.cc:3564 18:16:42 <|amethyst> kilobyte: abyssal 18:16:49 kilobyte: ^ 18:17:13 This isn't a HP Lovecraft nightmare. Abyssal is 'our thing' 18:17:58 quite a few RPG systems and fantasy worlds have a concept of "outer planes", "far dimensions" or the like 18:18:20 mhmm. abyssal is the one we've got though 18:18:21 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:46 it makes no sense to have abyssals randomly living, demonic and artificial 18:20:04 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:20:25 <|amethyst> that was why I was originally thinking eldritch would be in the same category as natural, supernatural (angelic/demonic), etc 18:20:31 I always hated the D&D alignment system. A crime boss is evil, but hitting him with a holy weapon shouldn't make him catch on fire. Let's avoid this :D 18:21:03 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:21:18 <|amethyst> I meant alignment inherent to the creature's nature 18:21:25 <|amethyst> not because of what it believes 18:21:25 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:32 <|amethyst> i.e. the thing separating demons from holies 18:21:47 right. So Sigmund is a jerk, but he isn't _evil_ 18:21:48 <|amethyst> (I guess that's subject to theological debate) 18:22:12 bh: in RL, it's mostly "evil = hostile to our " 18:22:20 <|amethyst> bh: a human may be evil for some purposes (TSO piety), but probably shouldn't be for holy wrath 18:22:42 <|amethyst> yeah, but Crawl is fantasy and fantasy is built around moral absolutes 18:23:38 <|amethyst> or maybe that's just since Tolkien and Lewis 18:23:43 in Crawl, at least the concept of evil is quite well defined. "Things TSO hates", no matter if he has any non-bogus reason or not. 18:24:41 even Zin and Ely have quite different views. Ely allows to pacify demons and undead, for example. 18:25:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:25:50 but if ely allowed mummy worship tso would give ely a funny look and ely doesn't want that 18:28:52 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:31 * geekosaur mis?reads "moral absurdities" 18:31:21 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:31:27 geekosaur: exactly. There is no god but Xom and Xom Xom Xom Xom! 18:32:13 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:33:49 fungus-forms are afraid to move with invisible monsters? 18:34:07 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:34:15 is that a bug or is supposed to be like that? 18:36:01 that's a bug 18:36:14 can you see invisible? 18:36:42 my whip had sInv 18:37:13 but it melded when Maurice zapped me 18:37:15 -!- halv has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:37:29 so no i can't 18:37:37 it's on mantis: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7219 18:38:34 I'll fix it 18:40:59 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 18:41:36 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:34 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:44:56 03bh 07* 0.13-a0-2381-ga73245f: Don't frighten Fungus-form around unseen monsters 10(64 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a73245feea9e 18:47:53 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 18:52:38 -!- wafflepants has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:53:38 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:31 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:54:58 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:59:46 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 19:01:19 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:01:26 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:04:38 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:07 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:13:57 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:23 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:16:33 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:20:07 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:21:27 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:23:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:15 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:30:18 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:38 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:32:16 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:32:40 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:12 Hmm, if I fight a shadow dragon in fsim with 'f', all my skills get drained to 0 19:34:40 Is this intentional, and can I remove the drain somehow in wizmode? 19:35:39 kryft: &H might remove the status 19:35:51 but idk 19:38:45 Alas, it didn't 19:40:27 sounds like it needs a patch 19:40:54 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42:09 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:45 -!- Duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45:15 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:47:33 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:51:02 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:14 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:53:15 -!- blue102 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:53:33 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:56:42 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:21 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Quit: I've killed the senator.] 20:01:46 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:02:01 -!- Nexos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:02:18 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:19 -!- TheKraken has quit [Quit: TheKraken] 20:05:19 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:07:28 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11:49 -!- ParallaxScroll has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:12:36 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 20:14:43 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:14:54 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:21:43 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:03 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:23:26 -!- wafflepants has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:23:33 Lemuel the Magician (L1 HEWz) (D) 20:23:42 !lm lemuel sprint crash -log 20:23:42 8. Lemuel, XL15 TeFi, T:2907 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Lemuel/crash-Lemuel-20130324-035803.txt 20:23:48 ... 20:23:49 !lm lemuel sprint crash -log 20:23:49 9. 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I honstely don't know how crazy that would be. 21:28:50 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 21:28:56 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30:45 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:32:03 as I've mentioned before, (1) could be worked around using lipo(1) and a matched pair of mainline GCCs targetting PPC and i386 21:33:33 trickiest part would be that half of the build would be a cross build, but which half could vary ... 21:34:21 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 21:36:45 Irrelevant warning about being confused next to friendly plants by 71619997a 21:37:43 the spawn of n78291, presumably 21:38:18 according to what rule? 21:40:09 number is bigger 21:45:46 -!- Roarke_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:46:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:51:58 tenofswords: look at termcast or join ##sil for sprintdev 21:52:11 is there a 21:52:16 whatever 21:52:30 oh 21:52:34 who cares 21:52:39 um??? 21:52:46 me&nooodl 21:53:02 I could put this together in the middle of playing what I'm doing instead of sil or crawl 21:53:17 you don't know 'the concept' 21:53:26 well then why am I watching 21:53:38 make a sprint in 140 characters 21:53:43 -!- moxian has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:53:59 dungeon hurdle 21:54:52 I can think of a lot of fun tactics but man it is not my problem 21:55:20 well I'm not asking you to come up with a bunch of ideas, I just thought you might think it was interesting!! 21:55:28 i have 0 ideas 21:55:37 i'm reading the vault design reference thing 21:55:48 technical constrictions for people starting out are boring 21:56:03 you need looser tricks, like "make a foo in specific time limit and no further" 21:56:25 (the entire point of all them jams) 21:56:40 nooodl doesn't do realtime speedruns, only turncount (see: his world record TSL win) 21:56:57 good world record to have 21:57:08 design is not play!!!! 21:57:41 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:58:25 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 21:58:46 -!- Anon is now known as Guest45610 21:58:54 I'd be much more impressed with, if this is that tinycrawl thing, making a sprint work at all with innate constrictions of monsters and features and floor size 21:59:20 I still do functional things as much as I do gimmicks 21:59:26 -!- tenofswords has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:59:28 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:44 tenofswords: ok 22:01:40 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:35 -!- Guest45610 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:07:38 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:09:32 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 22:11:30 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:14:23 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:14:50 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 22:17:51 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:59 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:18 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:24:30 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:55 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:13 -!- Wah has quit [Client Quit] 22:26:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 22:29:02 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2382-gbc6a47d: Fix gargoyles accidentally missing their poison resistance 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc6a47dfa3a6 22:38:26 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:36 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:01 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:41:39 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:43:15 -!- mnoqy has quit [Quit: hello] 22:43:31 -!- nooodl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:46:23 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:49:17 -!- Carrotz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:50:06 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51:56 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:00:54 -!- mnoqy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:09 -!- Peep has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:07:50 -!- wafflepants has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:08:14 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08:21 -!- flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:11:12 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Pacra] 23:11:23 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:24 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:07 -!- Rebenga has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:13:57 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:16:00 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:00 -!- TheKraken has quit [Quit: TheKraken] 23:22:40 -!- gammafunk has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:24:10 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:24:48 -!- santiago_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:25:48 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:36 |amethyst: I don't suppose you could update Chei's monster database? 23:27:45 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:29:50 -!- wafflepants has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:32:44 of course he could 23:34:47 Would 'would' please you more? :P 23:35:09 it would be more technically correct, but it wouldn't amuse me as much 23:35:16 ;-P 23:35:28 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:35:35 see this way I got to correct you 23:35:57 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.] 23:37:09 I think it is actually arguable whether it is more technically correct or not, though certain people like to say as much, anyway :P 23:37:52 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:39:33 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 23:41:17 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:41:37 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:44:15 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13-a0-2382-gbc6a47d (34) 23:45:32 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2383-g15f2d5c: Fix vault wardens being accidentally unable to seal runed doors 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=15f2d5cd7864 23:45:32 03DracoOmega 07* 0.13-a0-2384-g992b9cf: Allow vault wardens to seal stairways in addition to doors 10(7 minutes ago, 8 files, 55+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=992b9cfa9f88 23:46:51 * SamB has a feeling we might be reverting that one ... 23:47:09 Hey, it was already discussed here 23:47:16 the stairways thing? 23:47:18 Yes 23:47:28 It wasn't even my idea, actually :P 23:47:31 okay 23:47:49 still seems like the kind of thing that might end up being reverted though 23:52:46 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:57:01 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 23:59:43 I don't see why it would be any more likely than anything else to be reverted...