00:00:01 . 00:00:43 -!- LexAckson has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:39 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 00:03:12 -!- bh has left ##crawl-dev 00:03:15 -!- Cerepol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:05:40 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-a0-1585-g6f4f798 (34) 00:07:23 -!- Morphy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:09:08 03Grunt 07* 0.13-a0-1586-gd7bbba8: Let stone wall tiles vary by console colour. 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 33+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7bbba8df1ce 00:10:16 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-a0-1586-gd7bbba8 (34) 00:13:26 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-1586-gd7bbba8 (34) 00:18:44 So I'm cleaning up part of the newskald code, and would like a concise way to query the player's reach (you.weapon() ? weapon_reach(you.weapon()) : REACH_NONE). What are possible consequences of making monster::reach_range() a pure virtual method of actor? 00:20:25 qoala: you mean like bad consequences? 00:20:46 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20:47 yeah 00:20:50 I can't see why there would be negative consequences to that 00:20:53 I can't either 00:21:44 another word in each vtable is not going to kill us, and that's the most negative consequence I can envision ;-) 00:21:52 right 00:22:19 and nothing currently calls it on a general actor, so there's not even an indirection penalty at runtime 00:22:46 It's not worth worrying about such minor 'penalties' here anyway, I'm fairly sure 00:22:50 yeah 00:23:04 A virtual method call (or a thousand) is pretty inconsequential 00:23:12 Compared to what those methods are actually DOING 00:23:29 ... but actually I don't think the compiler knows that player and monster don't get subclassed ... 00:23:34 not that it matters ;-) 00:27:25 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:39 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34:43 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:45:50 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-1586-gd7bbba8 00:48:17 -!- SomeoneAwful has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:50:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:55:43 -!- waspmonolith has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:55:52 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:56:51 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:58:45 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:50 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:19 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:07:59 grunt: i saw your comment about shoals waves, you know ontoclasm has been completely redoing the shoals water right? 01:08:44 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:20:02 -!- Nomi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21:57 -!- winterer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:22:05 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:24:48 DracoOmega: are you making Drop Bears for forest? 01:25:02 I was not planning to, haha 01:26:33 TGW will be very disappointed if you don't./ 01:26:34 it's been suggested numerous time i think 01:27:26 well i was going to have a go at them if nobody else did ;) 01:27:58 They seem a little silly to me 01:28:22 -!- dupo has quit [] 01:28:44 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28:48 (Also, I am not sure that a 'surprise attack' monster will play all that well, anyway) 01:29:47 The bear I had been planning to add was rather more conventional and plainer (even *I* make plain stuff from time to time), since the place could use some bulkier melee threats I think, even in smaller numbers, and it's a good fit 01:29:54 (There's fancier tricks on other stuff, though >.>) 01:30:01 -!- NTRAFF has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:30:32 they're not as silly as they sound, they're only supposed to be the size of koalas, and they're far less silly than a lot of stuff 01:31:07 and i don't see anything wrong with a _little_ silliness but yeah the mechanics might be hard to make actually work 01:31:27 -!- Tollymain has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:32:14 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:32:41 anyway, it's good you have some ideas about some forest animals, i think this is what's really missing 01:32:45 along with plant monsters 01:33:00 it's far too much a branch full of intelligent species right now 01:33:33 What is ENCH_FAKE_ABJ for? I note it's applied to things such as sticks-to-snakes, simulacra, and battlesphere. 01:33:36 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:37 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:34:01 [07:28:50] (Also, I am not sure that a 'surprise attack' monster will play all that well, anyway) -- um are you saying mimics are not good design 01:34:14 I think you will get thrown off the devteam for that 01:34:19 I like mimics T.T (But I don't feel they work that well at present, though) 01:34:45 qoala: Things that time out, but which abjuration doesn't work against, basically 01:34:54 qoala: Since they're not 'summoned' in that sense 01:35:15 mumra: There are both plants and animals on my list! :P 01:36:03 st_: Also, for sake of argument, there are fewer things on an average level than can be mimics than there are trees in Forest :P 01:42:34 okay, but it's not applied to tukima's dance if I'm reading things right. Am I right in seeing that Tukima's handles immunity with weird special-casing? 01:43:00 Possibly. It might not be the only thing, even. 01:43:28 Death channel stuff too, I think? 01:43:46 maybe, I don't think those are created in spl-summoning, so I didn't check 01:43:59 I'm trying to figure out if newskald Spectral Weapon is abjurable as written 01:44:13 wizmoded Eustachio didn't oblige me by casting abjuration 01:44:16 Wouldn't the easiest way be to abjure it? 01:44:21 You can do that yourself 01:44:32 oh right >.< 01:44:41 (Also, I don't think he can cast abjuration) 01:45:19 he has a summon? 01:45:44 They don't all grant abjuration 01:45:48 ah 01:45:52 A few (mostly lower level ones) do not 01:45:57 that would explain things 01:45:58 Most do though, you're right 01:48:04 abjuration seems to be failing against allied summons. It prints the message, but even a called imp doesn't seem to be disappearing 01:50:19 -!- eb has quit [] 01:50:39 or rather, it's printing "send 'em back", but not "... shudders" 01:51:09 Oh, huh 01:51:16 Well, just make it hostile then, I guess 01:52:23 hmmm... but I can't make the spectral weapon hostile. Guess I have to disable the code that prevents that temporarily. 01:52:37 There's a wizmode command to change attitude 01:52:50 Use x then press F over the monster 01:52:54 To cycle through attitudes 01:55:35 ah thanks. 01:59:43 -!- dcss has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:59:44 -!- Pepe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:01:46 okay, it seems to be immune. Which is probably correct for it's purpose as "melee battlesphere" (conj/charms). Not entirely sure how, though. 02:02:00 Is it not using fake_abjuration? 02:02:28 no, it's largely copied from tukima's 02:02:40 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:02:47 but the special cases for tukimas elsewhere didn't seem to mention it 02:02:55 Ah, hmmm. I don't know, then. 02:05:55 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:05:55 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 02:08:12 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:18 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:50 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 02:09:15 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:44 qoala: maybe comes from mons_is_conjured 02:11:47 I wonder if this means that battlesphere doesn't actually NEED the fake_abjuration? 02:11:59 Since it is also 'conjured' in that sense 02:14:23 -!- sixfourtysword has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:14:41 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:15:52 maybe this is a case where some monster flags would be preferable to the current situation in any case 02:17:00 Well, some monsters can be unabjurable in certain forms of being temporary, and also abjurable in other forms of being temporary 02:17:23 For example, a simulacrum can be made using simulacrum (unabjurable) or summoned with shadow creatures or summon undead (abjurable) 02:17:33 But both will expire with time 02:17:57 -!- Sabaki has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:19:07 is adding a set object to the targetter class a bad idea if only one targetter ever uses it? 02:19:28 I'm only worried about overhead; it'll have no entries for targetters that don't use it 02:20:03 trying to avoid the use of dynamic_cast 02:21:42 do you think that XXX should summon any of the new abyssal monsters 02:22:14 XXX is a lovely spell already 02:22:33 ye i know 02:22:54 I think it could summon thrashing horrors and possibly the ocassional tentacled starspawn without harm (starspawn are fun) 02:23:01 Starcursed masses must forever remain out of player hands 02:24:21 (Seriously, just 2 or 3 can reliably kill Gloorx on their own) 02:24:53 Since the monster AI is terrible at dealing with them properly 02:25:24 gonna have to win my XXX speed run soon I guess; I might get killed with anything other than aboms or monstrosities 02:26:13 gammafunk: I am not entirely sure what you mean here, but why add something to the base class if only one subclass will use it? Shouldn't it be in the subclass then? 02:26:22 that's not so bad draco so can 3 tso summons ;-) 02:27:13 DracoOmega: Yeah, the instance of use is in direction_chooser where the object is declared as targetter though 02:27:45 I need the information within the subclass, and also in directn.cc 02:28:16 What exactly are you trying to do, anyway? 02:28:39 I make a set of potential landing sites in my targetter_jump subclass 02:28:54 needed within the subclass for targetter_jump::is_affected 02:29:11 But code in directn.cc needs to see these potential sites as well 02:29:32 yet the instance of the targetter used in directn.cc is of type simply targetter 02:29:43 hence the idea of moving the data to the targetter base class 02:29:50 Well, other targeters already can show target shapes of many varities, based on completely differing internal logic 02:29:59 So I am not sure why yours needs to add something to the base class to do this? 02:30:41 I don't think direction.cc code looks at that data beyond simply a call to is_affected 02:31:11 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 02:31:11 Well, all you're trying to do is show the potential landing sites for any given jump target, yes? 02:31:49 Why can't this be handled in a similar way to, say, a smite-targettered with an AoE range. In terms of how it looks, anyway, even if different logic is used to determine hilighted cells 02:32:26 the problematic portion in direction.cc is testing whether a monster has any valid landing site at all 02:32:36 it's a function like _find_monster() in directn.cc 02:33:01 and that function makes calls to functions in player.cc 02:33:07 stuff that the functions in target.cc can't see 02:33:18 that file doesn't have player.h, for instance 02:33:54 I could include player.h in target.cc to fix the problem 02:34:06 and move the code into a subclass method 02:34:19 On the face of it, that seems more sensible to me 02:34:41 ok, I'll do that then 02:45:58 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:46:20 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:36 mumra: that's correct. It's from mons_is_conjured 02:49:43 thanks 02:55:00 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 02:59:56 -!- buki has quit [Quit: reboot] 03:02:10 hmmm... if the battlesphere dies due to damage when out of sight, you don't get "You feel your bond with your battlesphere wane" 03:02:14 Is this desired? 03:02:26 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:04:39 Wait, you don't? 03:05:31 It only appears if end_battlesphere was called by something other than monster_die first 03:05:44 I think 03:05:51 Huh, looks like you might be right. 03:06:12 I think it did properly deliver the message at one point 03:06:15 I attempted to test this by spawning a pan lord, magic darting to draw aggro on the battlesphere, then wiz-tele away 03:06:17 Since that sounds like that was the point of the message 03:06:36 But maybe it got messed up after the code was refactored to allow monster battlespheres 03:07:03 Or maybe it never worked right there? Too long ago for me to remember 03:08:13 not sure 03:09:08 I was trying to clean things up to see if I could make monster spectral weapon possible in the code. And was trying to dissect how end_battlesphere was called. 03:10:23 yeah, it takes a couple of tries so that the pan lords actually kill the battlesphere before it dashes away, but it seems to only print the message if it dies of natural causes 03:10:35 which still happens a fair amount with expending the final charge 03:11:02 Dwant species by pubby 03:11:35 hehehe 03:12:16 gammafunk: there's the patch if you want it 03:12:39 haha, great a mantis report 03:13:10 Perhaps if end_battlesphere had an additional option "quiet" which is only true if called from monster_die and monster_die was called with KILL_RESET? 03:13:46 It feels hackish, but possibly not more so than the existing "killed" parameter 03:13:59 ^DracoOmega 03:14:13 buppy: that might end up as a badmantis entry 03:15:26 would be hilarious 03:16:41 qoala: Are you meaning so that the message could be printed for out-of-LoS deaths? 03:17:45 -!- hutherca has quit [Quit: hutherca] 03:18:28 I think I may actually been too tired to remember what I was doing when I did it this way, since it looks like I have cloud placement in two seperate places 03:18:49 that too :P 03:19:15 -!- Nomi has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 03:19:16 Like, really I probably should be in bed soon, but have been at this control winds code for hours 03:19:29 and yes, a quiet option that should only be true if called from monster_die and monster_die wasn't called from end_battlesphere 03:19:48 -!- Palyth has quit [] 03:19:57 Oof... so is this a new monster spell you're working on, and the AI for it? 03:20:44 Yes. Well, this one has less AI than the last version, which was effective in a mechanical sense (ie: it was helpful for the monster and harmful for you) but it FELT wrong with how things moved 03:20:47 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:21:31 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:21:35 This one is a little more 'dumb', but at least it looks more intuitive (and still helps with the most important aims) 03:23:35 -!- absolute1o is now known as absolutego_ 03:25:39 -!- blackcustard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:25:47 -!- absolutego has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:30:10 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 03:30:56 -!- jeffrom has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:31:22 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 03:33:03 sorry to bother, but why am I not showing up in the online player status? currently playing trunk on CDO? 03:35:11 I see you 03:35:23 Level 5 DjSu? 03:36:17 im looking at http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/player-status - sortet by name and server, can still not see me, picked up a book ~1min ago 03:36:54 well now im there 03:36:59 -!- caracal has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:37:12 -!- jday_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:38:17 -!- Mingan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:38:23 i'll just blame my browser, havent actually reloaded the site in days......... 03:43:45 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:43:53 -!- voker57 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:54:13 -!- myp has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:54:43 DracoOmega: what do you think weapon skill should be for monster spectral weapon? 03:55:22 Some factor of HD 03:55:38 Possibly account for the fighter flag, too 03:56:18 yeah, that's what I was thinking 03:56:54 (fighter) ? hit_dice * x : hit_dice * y for some x and y 03:57:05 and probably a / instead of * for at least the second 04:02:13 I sort of hope I really HAVE been picking tasks in the approximate order of 'hardest first' at the rate I am going here :P 04:02:15 (But probably not) 04:04:32 :P 04:05:18 -!- voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:06:04 Oh yeah, should dimension anchor be affected by dispelling? It's a spell, but purple draconians might be counter productive with it. 04:07:47 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:07:59 Yeah, that is a little awkward, but I don't necessarily want to make it undispellable either 04:09:10 And while it's a bit more common, it's not the first time a purple draconian could theoretically help you out there. Like, say, removing alich paralysis as soon as it lands 04:09:18 (Yeah, yeah not very likely, I know) 04:09:52 :P 04:10:10 the difference is now both effects originate from the same group. Much more likely 04:10:15 Yeah, I know 04:10:28 I guess they could remove death drake miasma slow too, though 04:11:31 Hmm... if we ever get around to tracking sources of things like slows, miasma might also be grouped as a physiological rather than a magical source. Which would exempt it from dispelling :D 04:11:37 Yes 04:11:45 But that is not how it is NOW, at any rate :P 04:12:23 It's a touch more awkward when the purple draconian is ITSELF the shifter, but again I am not sure I want to make it undispellable either 04:14:21 If your lucky, the purple shifter anchors, then blinks allies around the player, preventing it from using its breath because of lack of a clear shot 04:14:40 but then one of its allies might be purple >.> 04:14:52 which is at least not as awkward 04:15:15 I still figure it doesn't happen a whole lot 04:15:23 Remember, most of the time the breath will miss 04:17:26 true 04:17:31 except for heavy armour chars 04:17:59 -!- nonethousand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:20:05 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:20:26 -!- whog has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:22:19 hmm... I seem to have forgotten something. I replaced tengu conjurer's abiltiy to create battlespheres with spectral weapons for testing. But the creation was friendly to me 04:23:03 I know what needs to be fixed for that, but what I don't get is why it followed my attacks. Then followed its attacks after I switched its allegiance with xF. 04:24:30 Does it not have some kind of prop indicating ownership? 04:24:37 Like battlesphere does? (I haven't looked at the relevant code) 04:26:11 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 04:29:01 It does 04:30:12 The attack is done as a subcall of the agent's melee attack though. There might be something up with that. 04:30:44 Well, it sounds like the ownership prop is not working right, at any case 04:30:53 Since attitude shouldn't actually matter if it's linked to a specific mid 04:31:19 yeah 04:32:20 however, now that I changed the attitude argument to mimic battlesphere, it doesn't create anything on the monster's cast 04:32:38 Oh dear 04:33:32 perhaps I too should sleep 04:34:18 oh wait. I'm an idiot 04:34:29 also, I'm very confused about what I saw the first time, now. 04:34:41 the tengu conjurer is UNARMED 04:36:43 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:37:28 okay, a spectral weapon created by the "tengu conjurer ; battleaxe" does not obey my attacks after wiz-switching allegiance 04:37:40 I have no idea where the first spectral weapon came from. 04:38:11 Haha, even more confusing, just in a completely different way 04:40:06 I'm almost willing to chalk it up to half-asleep hallucinations except that the message log includes both "your spectral weapon misses the tengu conj" and "The spectral weapon misses you" in the first fight 04:40:46 Could it have been some old weapon that wandered up? Some bug with a monster casting it while they have no weapon wielded? 04:42:07 -!- buppy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:44:52 no idea 04:45:11 also I've since discovered xD includes debugging the monster properties 04:46:36 Yeah 04:46:40 (I added that bit myself, actually) 04:46:48 Since I kept constantly wanting that information :P 04:47:24 very nice 04:47:37 Yeah, every SW since that first one has had sensible properties 04:49:41 ok, I've now fixed the part where attacking the spectral weapon causes damaging sharing with *you*. 04:50:35 Haha, even if it's an enemy one? :P 04:50:49 yeah 04:51:10 hmm... summon_can_attack is only relevant if it was summoned by the player? 04:52:26 because the enemy spectral weapons are attacking freely 04:52:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:53:05 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:53:07 that actually explains the weird behaviour earlier. It was actually my SW, thus attacked with me, until it was hostile and attacked freely 04:55:38 Yes, only player summons have LoS restrictions 04:56:38 well, that's currently the codepath that prevents SW from attacking >.> 04:56:42 me again, searched the bugtracker for open issues 'stairs', sometimes in the ctrl-X screen the stairglypf is represented by a monster (i. e. orc), could'nt find anything open ?? 04:57:00 actually have it on screen right now 04:58:00 i think i remember this also in 0.12, but ii play very few.... 04:59:03 Well, if you last saw a monster on the square, that's the glyph shown. What do you mean by "couldn't find anything open"? 04:59:28 okay, and now I've fixed monster SW generating a swarm of weapons with repeat castings. Turns out I forgot another case of hard coded &you. 04:59:30 thought it might been a known bug 04:59:49 turns out it's just a feature 04:59:51 does the glyph show up correctly if you go look at the square again? 05:00:24 never thought of that 05:00:32 If the last time you saw a square there was a monster there, it continues to show the monster. Good for remembering where you were last running from a unique. 05:00:55 might be my priority for only wanna seeing the staircase 05:01:15 or see monsters everywhere, anyhow, thanks^^ 05:01:42 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:02:12 l - (o) a stone staircase leading up. 05:02:17 l - (o) a stone staircase leading up. 05:02:30 under features! 05:02:49 not mosters in ctrl-X 05:03:51 remember it seeing in 0.12, thought first it was a mimic 05:05:46 so if the monster stands on the stairs, the monsterglyph is shown in ctrl-X instead of the appropriate < > 05:11:22 -!- Kamer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:14:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 05:17:13 Oh right, the ctrl-f had that issue at one point. Don't remember if it was fixed. 05:17:39 If you couldn't find an outstanding ticket, you should probably report it. 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##crawl-dev 12:02:26 -!- Xenobreeder|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:04:22 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:17 -!- Tollymain has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:06:17 -!- mason- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:06:20 -!- mamga has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:07:41 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:09:23 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13-a0-1586-gd7bbba8 (34) 12:09:30 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:03 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:14 |amethyst: looks like the web+travel bug, wasn't that fixed? 12:13:53 what are webs doing in Shoals? (or do you mean something else?) 12:14:26 i saw a web+ally+autotravel crash the other day but this looks different 12:14:55 oh wait 12:15:01 just saw the message log :) 12:15:22 <|amethyst> oh, so it is 12:15:28 -!- g4spr0m has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15:37 yeah definitely saw another one like this very recently 12:16:36 it seems like autotravel was stopped by a keypress then the huge message packet crashed the server? 12:20:50 <|amethyst> edlothiol: cszo has crashes like this going back to january 12:23:21 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:24:02 <|amethyst> http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/bmfx/crash-bmfx-20130122-063256.txt http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/bmfx/crash-bmfx-20130503-144316.txt http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/oshikia/crash-oshikia-20130602-035605.txt http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/puppykicker/crash-puppykicker-20130612-165304.txt 12:24:35 <|amethyst> they all involve undead (but not all mindless: one involves a skeletal warrior, and those are I_NORMAL) 12:25:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:27:00 <|amethyst> presumably the player is getting stuck behind them 12:27:11 <|amethyst> I'm not sure why it would only happen for undead though 12:28:03 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Iceweasel 21.0/20130515140136]] 12:28:45 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:14 -!- ekix has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:31:35 -!- unpaidbill has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:31:41 -!- iasov has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:33:21 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:33:35 skeletal warrior (10z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 55-75 | AC/EV: 15/10 | Dam: 25 | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil | Res: 06magic(93), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 817 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 12:33:35 <|amethyst> %??skeletal warrior 12:33:42 manticore zombie (07z) | Spd: 5 | HD: 9 | HP: 60-92 | AC/EV: 3/2 | Dam: 11, 6, 6 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(12), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 151 | Sz: Large | Int: plant. 12:33:42 <|amethyst> %??manticore zombie 12:35:35 -!- Furril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:17 <|amethyst> yeah, it's that when autoexplore decides the best way to move is through a webbed ally, it just keeps retrying that key even though nothing happens (and no time passes) 12:42:22 Is there an easy function or way to test whether there's a disturbance at a given location? 12:44:34 in tileview it's done with if (env.map_knowledge(gc).invisible_monster()) 12:44:34 disturbance = true; 12:44:55 ok, thanks 12:45:38 -!- ZRN has quit [] 12:46:07 also see _exposed_monsters_nearby in misc.cc which is doing the same thing really 12:46:31 maybe there should be a utility function like is_disturbance_at(coord) 12:48:18 gammafunk: those methods will work for both cloud and water disturbances btw 12:48:57 mumra: Ok, that's fine. Planning to make it so you can jump attack a disturbance, even if attack will fail due to no monster 12:49:04 You'll still get moved, however 12:49:18 aha, cool 12:49:34 -!- scummos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:51:23 -!- skethcy_galore has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:51:39 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:42 shouldn't you be able to jump-attack invisible monsters whether or not they have disturbances, as long as you can guess where they are? 12:54:03 -!- anthem is now known as TGWi 12:54:12 -!- TGWi is now known as anthem 12:55:07 SamB_: Well we're trying to make it not as powerful as cblink. So you can only jump-attack something you can see 12:55:52 hmm 12:55:53 right 12:55:56 -!- SamB_ is now known as SamB 12:56:17 There are a number of jump restrictions with regards to path, no jumping in water, etc. but the current mechanic is you choose a monster (or disturbance) and land at a random, valid position 12:56:28 adjacent to the target 12:57:19 no jumping in water? is that because usually the boots would fall off if you can tolerate the water? 12:58:13 That was sort of inspired by swift. Not sure that it's a valid restriction. Certainly jumping in water should get some kind of penalty, deep water especially 12:58:39 well for deep water the boots would fall off 12:58:40 Restrictions are no jumping in water, if you're airborne, being constricted, in liquefied ground, exhausted, or wearing stasis 12:58:54 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 12:59:33 Yeah, I was thinking more how could you jump much if you're waist deep or worse in water, but true 12:59:48 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:00:06 oh, if you're in water to start with it would certainly make sense not to be able to jump 13:00:46 For constriction, it should probably do a check to break constrict possibly and then succeed, but that can come later 13:01:01 Yeah, you can jump into water, for instance 13:01:12 Even deep water, if you can swim 13:01:24 Also, LO can jump into lava 13:01:29 so this is a new boots brand? 13:01:46 yeah, and a player mutation; felids get it innately 13:01:52 neat 13:01:55 indeed 13:02:04 makes perfect sense on felids ;-) 13:02:10 pounce 13:02:47 what is the range? 13:02:49 If I had artistic ability, I'd make a splash image of a felid jumping over a shark 13:02:53 'Jumping the shark' 13:03:01 lol 13:04:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:04:27 LexAckson: range starts at 2, goes to 4 with increase of but level or 5 levels of evocations when using brand 13:04:49 But that's just for now; may not be best progression 13:04:59 *mutation leve 13:05:00 l 13:05:37 < gammafunk> Also, LO can jump into lava 13:05:43 there's even code specific to this 13:05:57 Eronarn: I made sure that they can :) 13:06:03 ??floosh 13:06:04 floosh[1/1]: Floosh! 13:06:08 Gloop! 13:06:12 ??gloop 13:06:13 I don't have a page labeled gloop in my learndb. 13:06:16 !learn add gloop Gloop! 13:06:17 gloop[1/1]: Gloop! 13:08:06 -!- rkd has quit [] 13:08:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08:31 i'm excited to try it out gammafunk 13:09:09 LexAckson: Rework is mostly done, will be posting patch v2 to mantis today most likely, so will appreciate feedback 13:09:14 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:09:38 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:33 -!- sixfourtysword has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:16:33 -!- Zermako has quit [] 13:18:01 13:18:05 Oops 13:19:10 hmm, my attempt to paste that into a terminal confused something 13:19:32 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:35:08 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:35:51 -!- waspmonolith has quit [Client Quit] 13:38:56 -!- mnoqy has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:39:26 -!- mnoqy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:53 -!- lordfrikk has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 24.0a1/20130611081224]] 13:49:25 -!- sepik121 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:50:46 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:54:32 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:46 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 14:00:55 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:02:38 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:55 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:10:48 -!- raskol has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:43 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:14:50 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:16:38 -!- I_Think has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:16:48 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:32 -!- mamga has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:29:15 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:29:41 -!- Silurio1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:31:13 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:31:15 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:10 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Kicked by KickServ] 14:33:56 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:52 -!- Mingan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:39:45 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:41:07 -!- Silurio1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:42:21 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:43:02 -!- mnoqy has quit [Quit: hello] 14:46:22 -!- Silurio1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:47:43 -!- Vizer has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:24 -!- Namey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51:21 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:53:07 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:57:27 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:58:01 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:22 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:03:07 -!- Silurio1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:03:57 -!- Nomi has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 15:04:01 I take it character dolls should have the same proportions across the board? 15:04:26 currently yes 15:04:42 it's been discussed that it would be good to make them not have to do so 15:04:43 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:04:48 but that's really hard to achieve 15:05:20 basically all the same weapon/armour/etc overlays need to fit on all characters 15:05:30 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:05:55 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:06:01 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:54 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:07:42 -!- Silurio1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:08:19 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:08:56 heh 15:09:06 I remember at some point orc wizards had hoverweapons. 15:09:19 That was a strange, brief period. 15:14:00 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:17:11 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]] 15:17:43 -!- phyphor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:17:59 -!- phyphor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:46 -!- jjpalen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:20:03 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:24:52 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:28:05 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:28:19 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:13 03Grunt 07* 0.13-a0-1587-ge19c6d6: Adjustments to a vault. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 27+ 27-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e19c6d6250b4 15:32:37 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:51 haha 15:37:02 just had a wind drake blow me through some trees 15:37:20 is that supposed to happen? 15:37:48 <|amethyst> hm 15:37:53 it blew my djinni through a 'solid' wall of trees 15:38:20 <|amethyst> I suspect it could blow you through grates, too, then 15:38:36 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:38:39 !lg 15:38:40 No games for LexAckson_. 15:39:05 !lg LexAckson 15:39:06 1515. LexAckson the Skullcrusher (L27 OgBe), worshipper of Trog, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-06-10 02:49:34, with 1542722 points after 90894 turns and 6:22:03. 15:39:18 how do i look up my current game? 15:39:28 !lm LexAckson 15:39:29 7906. [2013-06-12 20:36:03] LexAckson the Severer (L23 DjBe) reached level 5 of the Enchanted Forest on turn 72605. (Forest:5) 15:39:32 ahh 15:39:35 %dump LexAckson 15:39:35 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/LexAckson/LexAckson.txt 15:40:13 !lm lexackson -tv 15:40:14 7906. LexAckson, XL23 DjBe, T:72605 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 15:41:01 !lm jokeserver won loak s=uniq o=turns 15:41:01 Bad filter condition: 'turn' (extra: ) 15:41:21 hmm 15:41:28 !lm jokeserver won loak s=uniq o=min(turn) 15:41:29 Bad filter condition: 'min(turn)' (extra: ) 15:41:37 !lm jokeserver won loak s=uniq o=min(turns) 15:41:37 Bad filter condition: 'min(turn)' (extra: ) 15:41:38 didn't get to the part where the wind drake was 15:41:55 how do i sort uniq milestones by when i first got them 15:42:26 aha 15:42:33 !lm jokeserver won loak s=uniq x=min(turns) o=-min(turns) 15:42:34 35 milestones for jokeserver (won loak): Ijyb [4282], Eustachio [7693], Joseph [12394], Nessos [12596], Fannar [20815], Grinder [23718], Terence [23737], Psyche [25862], Maud [28511], Roxanne [29020], Harold [29094], Donald [30229], Rupert [33061], Wiglaf [33360], Frances [33592], Agnes [35252], Aizul [35726], Arachne [36713], Jorgrun [37538], Louise [37846], Kirke [38234], Grum [43192], Urug [431... 15:42:37 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:42:44 oh 15:42:45 hmm 15:42:58 flail of distortion? 15:43:07 can distort effect blink you through trees? 15:43:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:30 <|amethyst> it's not supposed to 15:44:39 <|amethyst> I don't think so anyway 15:44:46 <|amethyst> but it can teleport, too 15:47:00 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/Gargoiles.png 15:47:04 Now to wonder whether this works. 15:49:41 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:50:40 oops, turns out being able to attack with a reach weapon isn't just being within grid_distance 2. 15:51:23 -!- mnoqy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:36 too bad they're declawed 15:51:59 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:23 <|amethyst> yeah, things can be in the way :) 15:53:28 <|amethyst> I don't think there's a way to check that without actually doing the attack 15:54:46 well since the spectral weapon code bypasses the monster AI to do the attack, it currently successfully attacks despite trees. 15:56:02 <|amethyst> would calling _handle_reaching work? 15:56:15 <|amethyst> you could make that non-static and put it in a header if necessary 15:56:19 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:56:29 <|amethyst> though I'd rename it to something like monster_handle_reaching 15:56:34 qoala: that actually sounds pretty spectral ;-) 15:56:50 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57:33 <|amethyst> SamB: yeah, but letting "summons" attack things without line-of-effect would be bad 15:57:41 <|amethyst> since you can't smite through trees 15:57:49 yeah 15:58:45 I'd have to manually set the foe before making the call, since the attack happens on the owner's turn (unlike battlesphere), and thus the foe might not yet be set by mon-behv 15:59:25 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:59:34 Also it doesn't fix the (separate) AI decision of "can the player melee the opponent" and "can I not yet melee the opponent" for if it needs to move 15:59:57 why does the attack happen on the owner's turn? 16:00:05 Am I correct in thinking that _handle_reaching does non-reaching attacks as well for the monster? 16:00:38 SamB: that's how lainiw set it up, at least. I don't yet understand how the monster AI works well enough to change that. 16:01:56 <|amethyst> qoala: looks like no, it doesn't do anything unless grid_distance == 2 16:02:35 When an actor attempts to melee (fight.cc:fight_melee) and has a spectral, it sets the spectral's target and (if able) triggers an attack from the spectral. 16:03:10 This means that if the spectral wasn't already at the target, it won't help out until your next attack. 16:03:42 <|amethyst> you can call _handle_reaching first then call something like fight_melee if that fails 16:04:23 <|amethyst> that's what the normal handle_monster_move does, except there are other things in between 16:05:06 well, fight_melee doesn't check the range either. Is the simplified logic not: (adjacent ==> fight_melee directly, _handle_reaching) in some order? 16:05:59 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:06:31 or rather (_handle_reaching, else move, if move intercepts opponent fight_melee), so I'd need to do an adjacent check 16:06:57 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:08:08 It's probably best (for now) to apply a band-aid that prevents the SW from attacking through features, then later figure out how to make it reposition if it's blocked. 16:08:32 qoala: are you sure you can't just skip the "attack now" part and have it work okay? 16:09:06 I guess that depends on how long the last thing it did took ... 16:09:44 well, I'm not sure how to control the AI to only attack once following an owner attack. 16:10:49 I still haven't figured out why an allied monster-owned spectral weapon sometimes wanders away from its target towards the player... (it could already reach it's opponent, so ->target=owner and ->foe=MHITNOT) 16:10:55 korzok the Skullcrusher (L27 OgHu) ASSERT(!aimed_at_feet || source == target) in 'beam.cc' at line 665 failed on turn 176332. (Abyss:5) 16:11:34 and xD confirms that it's owner is definitely the modified tengu conjurer. 16:11:55 I think I've heard of similar wierdness with battlesphere ? 16:12:15 now that allies can have that 16:12:18 BATTLESPHERE 16:14:15 The difference is a battlesphere can usually attack from wherever. 16:15:06 -!- johnthebear has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15:23 yeah but it's supposed to follow its direct owner, not the player 16:16:20 -!- syllogism has quit [] 16:16:35 but while an oddity for the battlesphere, it's crippling for the spectral weapon to oscillate between its owner's target and the player. 16:20:32 It's possible I should send my changes to lainiw (which clean up some of the handling for spectral weapons and partially support non-player SW), and let someone with more experience with the monster AI change how it attacks. 16:21:01 by which I mean, make it attack on its own turn. 16:22:10 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:25:59 Currently, summon_can_attack always returns false on SW, so that only the explicit follow up attacks happen. 16:31:45 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:32:19 -!- sbanwart_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:34:00 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:34:20 -!- Vizer_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:14 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:36:31 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:02 wait. mid is not mindex? >.> 16:45:32 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 16:45:34 well, it's a bandaid/hack, but reaching SW no longer reaches through features. It only involves setting mons->foe and mons->target from trigger_spectral_weapon 16:54:16 -!- Duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:56:21 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:59 -!- pantaril has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:58:42 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59:21 mid is monster id, isn't it? 17:00:29 I'm confused what mindex is then 17:00:53 because, yeah mid does seem to mean monster id 17:01:20 turns out manually setting mon->foe needs mindex, not mid 17:03:17 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:05:14 <|amethyst> mindex is just the index in menv 17:05:21