00:03:08 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-412-g62db944 (34) 00:05:16 no_monster_gen tag for no spawning. 00:05:20 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-a0-412-g62db944 (34) 00:05:35 Well, for spawning at creation time. 00:12:22 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:36 elliptic: i reported that two? days ago 00:12:54 elliptic: it didnt prompt if you had rpois. now it does regardless of your rpois status 00:15:04 simmarine: well, apparently previously it didn't prompt if you didn't have rPois either 00:15:10 no it didnt 00:15:15 freezing cloud didnt 00:15:31 im pretty sure at some point it did prompt unless you had rpois for a while 00:15:31 apparantly getting this *right* is hard 00:16:52 -!- Thalfon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:18:15 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-412-g62db944 00:19:53 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:51 03SamB 07* 0.13-a0-413-g21ddf46: Remove the explicit copy constructor and assignment operator for level_id. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 11-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=21ddf4604dc9 00:23:51 03SamB 07* 0.13-a0-414-g700b39d: Make grunt_ashenzari_visionary subvaults more teleport-proof. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=700b39dd4fbb 00:23:53 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:25:02 -!- zerc has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:25:58 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:26:31 -!- Felsg has quit [Client Quit] 00:29:51 -!- radiosilent has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:30 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:11 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:41:48 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:44:13 Are there any balance reprocusions against having vaults with a small amount of treasure? 00:44:29 (Portal vaults) 00:45:40 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:45:52 Havvy: you mean, as opposed to a medium or large amount of treasure? 00:46:59 Three scrolls, some gold, and a random ring. 00:48:13 if the scrolls are pre-determined you should probably pre-ID them too 00:48:38 I don't know if that's really all that bad for a sewer; look through the others to compare? 00:48:52 The scrolls are random. Their placement is not. I'm going for the gimmicky water trap I mentioned yesterday. 00:50:27 Anyway, I gotta go to bed. Happy vaulting! 00:50:38 Right. Enjoy your sleep. 00:51:55 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 00:57:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:58:58 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:16 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:03:48 -!- DrPraetor|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:03:50 -!- nonethousand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:04:20 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:08:19 -!- nonethousand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:09:02 -!- Elynae_ has quit [Client Quit] 01:10:35 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:11:21 -!- nonethousand has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:18:07 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:19:12 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:24:17 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:26:29 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 01:26:35 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:30:28 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:32:08 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:55 -!- morik has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:36:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:38:36 does anyone object to making all portals announced? 01:38:57 probably 01:39:17 elliptic probably as a good reason why it's bad :) 01:39:20 I'm sure there've been discussions about it before 01:39:58 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7686 01:40:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 01:40:50 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:40:54 iirc people seemed generally supportive of the idea in the past 01:41:17 at least I don't remember a counterargument other than "need to come up with tons of messages" 01:41:42 khalil did just that. I can push his change once I verify it doesn't break the universe 01:42:01 I wouldn't trust khalil not to break the universe 01:42:13 I don't trust *me* to not break the universe. 01:42:18 so it is good that you are verifying things :) 01:43:17 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:43:45 the change looks innocuous. Though khalil should probably learn to use git 01:44:44 un-ID'd enchant armour scroll didn't offer maximally enchanted armour as target by nubinia 01:44:44 just as long as it isn't like https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6710 :P 01:45:07 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 01:45:41 hm. it appears to crash the shit out of crawl. 01:46:15 -!- eggonlegs has quit [Changing host] 01:48:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:09 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:48:46 mmm 01:52:05 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 01:57:42 -!- CampinSam has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:02:58 -!- Wester has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:02:58 -!- WesterAlt is now known as Wester 02:05:52 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:06:01 -!- Blade-_ is now known as Blade- 02:08:55 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:15:52 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:15:55 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 02:21:26 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:23:57 -!- Fear has quit [Client Quit] 02:24:27 -!- ryansee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:26:35 -!- Beneather has quit [Quit: Beneather] 02:27:28 -!- Keskitalo has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:27:49 -!- dupo has quit [] 02:28:36 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 02:29:35 DChan (L8 GhGl) ERROR: range check error (35 / 35) (D:6) 02:29:42 DChan (L8 GhGl) ERROR: range check error (35 / 35) (D:6) 02:30:20 -!- Fear has quit [Client Quit] 02:30:35 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:34:33 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:36:59 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:37:32 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:37:35 -!- ussdefiant_ is now known as ussdefiant 03:00:35 -!- jack70 has quit [] 03:01:10 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 03:02:08 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:02:30 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:06:13 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:07:06 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:10:10 -!- dcssrubot799 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:10:55 -!- Havvy has quit [Changing host] 03:10:55 -!- Havvy has joined ##crawl-dev 03:12:56 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:13:50 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 03:15:41 -!- eggonlegs has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:17:39 -!- Boyo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:20:36 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:22:54 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:25:09 -!- tureba has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:25:43 -!- mnoqy has quit [Quit: hello] 03:27:49 -!- NekoRex has quit [Quit: "All the vain and ignorant will look up and shout 'Save us!', and I'll look down and whisper... 'Nyo.'"] 03:33:55 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 03:34:34 hi guys, im trying to build on windows 7 (via msysgit) and i get this error: Font file DejaVuSans.ttf not found. Please install it (possibly via contribs). 03:34:35 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:34:46 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:34:50 where do i go to fix this? (not familiar with msysgit) 03:35:31 -!- dagonfive has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:36:28 ah found it nevermind 03:38:22 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:39:12 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:42:18 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:44:30 nope still not working 03:44:55 i installed SDL SDL-image, libpng and freetype 2 03:46:21 dejavusans.ttf is in the crawl source dir though 03:53:44 no one? 03:54:02 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Quit: bye] 04:03:09 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 04:16:09 Naruni: you can download the submodules 04:16:20 theres a line about it somewhere in the crawl git tutorial 04:16:26 something like git submodule --init 04:16:28 but im not sure 04:16:37 also you can update them with some similar line 04:17:18 anyway, that will get you the dependencies you need, including the dejavu font 04:17:31 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 04:24:52 -!- Villadelfia_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:53 -!- Villadelfia has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:33:31 -!- InternetKraken has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:34:57 alefury: thanks 04:45:22 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:02:19 -!- Naruni has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 05:09:25 -!- Blade- has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:20:30 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:32:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:32:35 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:33:56 -!- dagonfive1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:37:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:50:43 -!- Taco_Princess has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:59:27 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:04:30 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 06:05:44 -!- scummos has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:06:53 -!- nonethousand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:15:57 -!- dcssrubot107 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:27:31 -!- eggonlegs has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:27:33 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:29:13 -!- eggonlegs has quit [Changing host] 06:30:03 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:35:14 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:39:28 !tell Grunt I like the experimental patch you posted yesterday. Good improvement IMO 06:39:29 galehar: OK, I'll let grunt know. 06:40:26 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:41:47 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 06:43:13 Experimental patch? 06:46:14 its classified 06:46:22 (actually you can probably just check the logs) 06:46:55 I don't have the energy to check the logs. 06:48:22 -!- radiosilent has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:53:51 http://sprunge.us/ijXH 06:58:58 -!- smeea has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:12:01 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 07:20:18 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:34:36 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 07:40:53 -!- Vizer has joined ##crawl-dev 07:42:19 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 07:42:25 Good morning 07:43:33 greetings 07:44:12 -!- DrPraetor|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:49:48 -!- scummos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:01 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:01:14 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:29 -!- Mottikins__ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:19:01 -!- Sombrero_Mott has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:25:03 -!- Shadow1798 has quit [] 08:28:35 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 08:31:18 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40:52 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:42:07 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:44:15 -!- scummos has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:44:39 !tell galehar I've spotted at least one likely (and probably minor) problem with it, but if it's generally well received and when I get a chance I'll clean it up a bit and add it in. 08:44:39 Grunt: OK, I'll let galehar know. 08:45:53 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 08:47:36 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:48:58 -!- scummos has quit [Client Quit] 08:56:41 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:06:23 -!- Zifmia has quit [] 09:12:01 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:17:35 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:19:18 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:20:00 -!- s951 has quit [Client Quit] 09:24:42 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:27:00 -!- scummos_ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:27:03 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:33:17 -!- Aryth12 has quit [Ping timeout: 251 seconds] 09:34:00 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: Wrong button bad with computers] 09:38:05 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:58 -!- smeea has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:39:18 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:35 Grunt: I'm sure there are a few issues/bugs, but we can fix them :) 09:39:43 consider it well received from me 09:44:37 it sounds like a good change to me as well 09:44:57 -!- SchwaWarrior has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:49:15 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:52:57 -!- dcssrubot860 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:54:46 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:57:06 -!- Fear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:59:55 My antennae sensed me by morik 10:00:05 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:40 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:01:14 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:34 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 10:05:09 -!- DrPraetor|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:12:36 -!- Sorbius has quit [Client Quit] 10:14:36 -!- morik has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:18:12 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:26 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 10:19:47 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:17 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:20:49 -!- Muxa89 has quit [Client Quit] 10:21:26 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:16 crawl (local tiles) just crashed on exiting the highscore list after i died 10:41:11 Stable (0.12) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.12-b1-117-gf24211c 10:47:07 Webtiles server stopped. 10:49:56 Webtiles server started. 10:52:26 -!- syraine has quit [Client Quit] 10:53:15 -!- mikee_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:53:40 -!- capablanca has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:46 -!- capablanca is now known as mikee_ 10:54:46 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:54:47 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:54:59 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:24 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:57:51 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 10:59:06 Argons (L14 TrTm) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 592 failed. (D:14) 10:59:46 -!- s951 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:00 -!- keksz has joined ##crawl-dev 11:07:18 -!- sacje has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:07:21 -!- Sacre is now known as sacje 11:08:15 -!- kekszsz has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:09:58 -!- keksz has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:10:51 <|amethyst> SamB: it was missing because I never got around to it; should be up now, but Sequell doesn't yet know about it 11:11:48 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 11:11:48 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 11:11:56 -!- CeleryMan has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:14:36 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:15:11 -!- s951 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:15:37 -!- Sorbius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:20:53 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:25:28 -!- sgf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:28:18 -!- madreisz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:38:34 -!- Fear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:41:01 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:41:02 -!- Pthing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:55:41 ??throwing 11:55:41 throwing[1/1]: You probably don't want this. See {blowgun[2]} for the skill's effect on needles. 11:55:47 ??returning 11:55:48 returning[1/3]: A brand that makes the weapon return to its owner's hand when thrown. It is not guaranteed to work, and requires some Throwing skill to work at all; 3 levels gives a failure chance of 14%, while 27 gives 3%. When thrown by an enemy, fails to return something like 1 time in (HD+3). Based on some quick testing, Portaled Projectiles will not return. 11:56:40 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:00:46 Stable (0.12) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.12-b1-117-gf24211c 12:01:55 <|amethyst> hrm 12:03:58 -!- tureba has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:05:26 Stable (0.11) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11.2-13-g9771293 12:11:19 !lm DChan crash -log 12:11:19 3. DChan, XL8 GhGl, T:5658 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/DChan/crash-DChan-20130421-072942.txt 12:11:26 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?] 12:15:49 -!- Wehk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:25 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:17 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13-a0-414-g700b39d (34) 12:19:53 -!- Wehk has quit [Client Quit] 12:20:13 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:47 -!- nonethousand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:13 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:35 -!- nonethousand has quit [Client Quit] 12:24:05 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:01 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:27:01 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 12:32:18 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:34:12 -!- ophanim has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:44:40 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:46:38 -!- Wolfram has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:51:23 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:54:09 -!- dcssrubot102 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:55:03 * SamB attempts to eradicate ASSERT(smc) once and for all 12:55:22 Callayne (L20 DDNe) (Abyss:3) 12:55:49 hmm, really gotta fix that too 12:57:06 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:57:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 12:57:55 (the thing where there is nothing in the crash milestone indicating what signal crawl died to when it wasn't from an ASSERT/die 12:57:58 ) 13:00:33 |amethyst: how do you suppose we should work that? set the assert message when a signal comes in if it wasn't already set? append to it about any signal besides SIGABRT? 13:01:05 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:02:16 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:22 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:09:39 -!- ryansee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:13:50 !lm Argons crash -log 13:13:51 1. Argons, XL14 TrTm, T:32154 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Argons/crash-Argons-20130421-155905.txt 13:14:17 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:18:17 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20:42 -!- Lightli has quit [] 13:21:53 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:24:13 -!- KafkasDad has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:28:24 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11.2-13-g9771293 (33) 13:28:51 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:30:17 -!- morik has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:31:33 -!- Sealer has quit [] 13:32:20 -!- kekszsz has quit [Quit: Kicked by KickServ] 13:36:57 |amethyst, do you remember the parameters how to compile so it can serve DGL and webtiles games? 13:37:10 *compile crawl 13:37:41 Napkin: I think it's shown when you kick off a rebuild on CSZO or CAO 13:37:52 -!- keksz has joined ##crawl-dev 13:38:27 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:38:31 probabaly, but not to motivated to figure out how to trigger a rebuild there first 13:38:39 ??rebuild 13:38:39 -!- s951 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:38:39 rebuild[1/1]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ Bug kilobyte or Napkin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 13:38:54 I meant using those handy webpages 13:39:18 i doubt the cgibin there will show the parameters of make 13:39:33 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-b1-117-gf24211c (34) 13:48:22 -!- Spardakus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:48:50 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:49:13 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:49:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:50:13 -!- Fear has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:54:01 -!- Palyth has quit [] 13:54:11 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:08 -!- mnoqy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:15 -!- Gretell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:56:25 Napkin: CAO says: 13:56:32 [EXEC] crawl-do nice make -C source GAME=crawl-git-168e9a3a74 GAME_MAIN=crawl-git MCHMOD=0755 MCHMOD_SAVEDIR=755 INSTALL_UGRP=games:games WEBTILES=YesPlease USE_DGAMELAUNCH=YesPlease WIZARD=YesPlease STRIP=true DESTDIR=/chroot/crawl-master prefix= bin_prefix=/bin SAVEDIR=/crawl-master/crawl-git-168e9a3a74/saves DATADIR=/crawl-master/crawl-git-168e9a3a74/data WEBDIR=/crawl-master/crawl-git-168e9a3a74/data/web SHAREDDI 13:56:32 R=/crawl-master/crawl-git/saves EXTERNAL_FLAGS_L=-g 13:56:52 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:58 cool, thanks! 13:57:34 03SamB 07* 0.13-a0-415-g168e9a3: Eradicate ASSERT(smc); replace with something more informative. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 24+ 18-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=168e9a3a749b 13:57:47 from the webpage, in fact 13:58:14 nice# 13:58:33 -!- CampinSam has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:00:51 somebody really ought to fix those DGL-only -Wmissing-declarations warnings 14:01:12 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:19 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:02:39 Tile graphics corrupted by kaiserfro 14:03:05 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:58 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 14:04:59 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 14:06:24 greensnark, kilobyte, |amethyst, could please add cdo's 0.12 to the scoring page on CAO and also to the sequell bot? 14:06:32 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-a0-415-g168e9a3 (34) 14:08:13 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:23 -!- Noffie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:08:28 -!- Fear__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:08:40 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13-a0-415-g168e9a3 (34) 14:09:28 -!- Fear has quit [Client Quit] 14:10:04 * SamB hopes someone gets another of what was ASSERT(smc) 14:10:31 -!- Sabaki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15:06 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:15:57 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:16:06 we need to fix the tile offset thing just so people stop reporting it 14:17:08 tile offset thing? 14:17:56 -!- tureba has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:18:19 mouse the Nimble (L14 HaEn) ASSERT(you.wizard && !you.did_escape_death()) in 'xom.cc' at line 3758 failed on turn 23628. (Lair:7) 14:18:39 <|amethyst> Napkin: added to the scoring pages 14:18:48 !lm * crash -log 14:18:49 4688. mouse, XL14 HaEn, T:23628 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/mouse/crash-mouse-20130421-191818.txt 14:21:54 SamB: on rebuild sometimes the tile page offsets don't get updated 14:21:54 <|amethyst> SamB: the problem that causes wrong tiles sometimes when switching between versions in webtiles (e.g. https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6942 ) 14:22:11 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:31 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: oh, it's a build issue? Why does reloading fix it then? 14:22:42 who knows 14:22:53 maybe there are two bugs that have the same effect 14:22:59 <|amethyst> hm 14:23:02 but when you build local following tile changes 14:23:07 it often pops up 14:23:10 until you make clean 14:27:23 -!- Guest25855 has quit [Quit: Quitte] 14:28:47 maybe it would be a good idea to copy a tree with the problem, then do a clean build and see what's changed in the rltiles directory 14:29:31 preferably using ccache 14:30:20 well afaict the problem isn't what changes, it's what -doesn't- change 14:30:41 the game stores, somwhere, the location of each tile within the sheet 14:30:54 yes, but doing a diff between a dirty, affected build and a clean, unaffected build might tell us what? 14:30:59 when tiles change size, the sheet is updated, but those offsets aren't 14:31:05 hm 14:31:07 maybe so 14:31:07 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:31:32 oh, that's a key thing 14:31:39 adding and removing tiles doesn't do it 14:31:42 it's just resizing them 14:32:14 anh, it's hardly a maor issue 14:32:25 reloading fixes it online, and make clean fixes it offline 14:32:34 -!- ryansee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:32:36 but that's insane 14:32:46 -!- Fear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:33:06 <|amethyst> if someone ever makes a server with just one version, that would be a problem 14:33:29 -!- NekoRex has quit [Client Quit] 14:33:36 <|amethyst> the build-time problem doesn't affect the servers because they build stable then trunk every time, so it's essentially a clean rebuild 14:33:46 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:34:03 |amethyst: except if you do a /rebuild/ 14:34:13 <|amethyst> SamB: true 14:34:48 <|amethyst> it uses ccache anyway, so maybe /rebuild/ should use make clean 14:34:50 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:54 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:34:57 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 14:35:12 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:25 I think the makefile should work 14:37:33 thanks, |amethyst :) 14:38:21 -!- NekoRex has quit [Client Quit] 14:38:43 hmm, it seems that the offsets aren't calculate when the PNGs aren't rendered 14:39:35 which is to say that I've got a console build here and the _tile_FOO_info arrays are full of 0s 14:42:32 -!- Fear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:42:52 <|amethyst> but that shouldn't matter, right? 14:42:58 <|amethyst> since console doesn't use those 14:43:25 yeah but it was a bit confusing 14:43:39 I was looking for numbers that resembled coordinates 14:43:42 <|amethyst> that's one of the reasons I do webtiles instead of console builds now 14:43:58 <|amethyst> even though I never run the webtiles server 14:44:08 <|amethyst> (on my home computer I mean, not cszo) 14:44:16 obviously 14:45:45 hmm ... 14:45:47 OH! 14:47:50 we need to do something to make sure the .cc files are regenerated when any source image has changed! 15:09:47 grr, it looks like I'm gonna end up rebuilding contrib before testing this little makefile change :-( 15:10:39 hrmm, I didn't want -Wmissing-declarations to affect the contribs :-( 15:10:45 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:15:03 hmm, I take it we aren't using the real sqlite sources 15:15:11 since I only saw one file compiled just now ... 15:16:07 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:16:43 sqlite is also distributed as a combined .c thing 15:16:54 yes, but that's not the source 15:17:49 I mean, I assume that they have a script that combines the separate files into that? 15:18:10 rather than the reverse 15:19:13 well, sure 15:20:14 -!- CampinSam has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 15:25:53 * SamB wishes cmd.exe had a less confusing history mechanism ... 15:34:22 -!- kaiserfro has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:43:03 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:55:17 |amethyst: if you are still up for hosting the tourney scripts on CSZO, http://sprunge.us/LMUA describes approximately what I'd need for them 15:57:47 -!- ApsychicRat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:00:51 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:03:06 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:06:08 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:10:03 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:04 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:14:36 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:17:17 <|amethyst> elliptic: the scoring pages are static, not CGI, right? 16:17:24 -!- vidiny has quit [Quit: [19:23] don't they have refill machines in ikea [19:24] bet those muricans took their vases to those straight away after paying] 16:18:19 right 16:18:24 -!- CampinSam has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:18:37 <|amethyst> do you need directory indexes? 16:19:13 I don't think so 16:20:37 hmm, win32 port needs -Wmissing-declarations fixes too 16:21:49 -!- doome has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:22:26 -!- Boyo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:22:58 <|amethyst> elliptic: okay, it's set up 16:23:33 |amethyst: cool, thanks 16:23:57 <|amethyst> elliptic: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/ is an alias to ~tourney/html/ 16:24:30 <|amethyst> elliptic: I set up the database as you asked, but I would be more comfortable if there were a password :) 16:24:33 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 16:24:41 |amethyst: shouldn't that include the year? 16:24:42 <|amethyst> elliptic: let me know what python modules you need installed 16:24:57 also why did someone delete the '11 link from the tournament entry 16:25:06 <|amethyst> SamB: when it's over I'll probably archive it with the year in the name 16:25:10 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25:11 SamB: the link was broken 16:25:16 oh 16:25:28 <|amethyst> what was the link? 16:25:31 I don't suppose it can be fixed? 16:25:47 it was to somewhere on CAO 16:25:53 <|amethyst> I can probably fix that then 16:26:02 <|amethyst> the old / is still mounted 16:26:11 <|amethyst> if someone can tell me the URL 16:26:30 tournament[2/3]: The 0.11 tournament ran Oct 20-Nov 4: http://seleniac.org/crawl/tourney/12b/ 16:26:31 SamB: it will be http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.12/ or something 16:26:35 er. 16:26:38 wrong one 16:26:48 Deleted tournament[3/4]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney11/index.html 16:28:32 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:28:52 older tourney pages would be nice to have too if they are still around... there is probably a /tourney10, /tourney09, /tourney08 as well 16:29:30 oh darn I misspelled ontoclasm 16:29:42 should I amend my commit even though I already pushed? 16:30:46 |amethyst: about the db not having a password, I don't know if there is actually a reason not to have one... that's just what the instructions for the scripts said when I took them over ;) I'll check whether it will work with one 16:30:56 * SamB decided to do so 16:31:59 so if anyone gets any grief about a non-fast-forward, sorry ... 16:33:27 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:34:17 03SamB 07* 0.13-a0-416-gf214cf4: Fix ontoclosm's "tile offset thing" when rebuilding with resized source PNGs 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f214cf49c195 16:34:41 gah, that's the retracted commit 16:36:16 <|amethyst> %git HEAD 16:36:16 03SamB * 0.13-a0-416-g8c8430c: Fix ontoclasm's "tile offset thing" when rebuilding with resized source PNGs 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c8430cccab4 16:36:19 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^ 16:36:19 03SamB * 0.13-a0-415-g168e9a3: Eradicate ASSERT(smc); replace with something more informative. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 24+ 18-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=168e9a3a749b 16:36:25 <|amethyst> chei fixed anyway 16:37:55 <|amethyst> I restored /tourney{,09,10,11}/ on CAO 16:38:02 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:38:06 <|amethyst> note that 08 was /tourney and not /tourney08 16:38:37 maybe moving after the tourney is not such a great idea? 16:38:37 <|amethyst> and there are absolute paths in URLs so it can't be moved without editing everything 16:38:52 -!- scummos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:39:15 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:39:21 03SamB 07* 0.13-a0-416-g8c8430c: Fix ontoclasm's "tile offset thing" when rebuilding with resized source PNGs 10(22 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c8430cccab4 16:39:50 a bit late 16:40:19 <|amethyst> SamB: perhaps... I like elliptic's /tournament/0.12 suggestion so I guess we'll go with that 16:40:41 <|amethyst> ??tournament 16:40:41 tournament[1/3]: The 0.12 tournament will be scheduled sometime after the 0.12 release is scheduled. 16:40:44 then /tournament/ can link to the old results and stuff 16:40:52 <|amethyst> ??tournament[3] 16:40:52 tournament[3/3]: Tourney scoring scripts: http://github.com/elliptic/dcss_tourney . 16:40:53 as well as those, obviously 16:40:56 <|amethyst> ??tournament[2] 16:40:56 tournament[2/3]: The 0.11 tournament ran Oct 20-Nov 4: http://seleniac.org/crawl/tourney/12b/ 16:42:16 ontoclasm: anyway, that should do the trick for the build issue 16:43:35 <|amethyst> where's the 11b tourney info? 16:44:06 other issues are presumably a problem with the cache control on the PNGs and/or associated JS files? 16:44:11 -!- scummos has quit [Client Quit] 16:44:11 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:44:19 <|amethyst> or for that matter the first 2012 tournament 16:45:24 elliptic: obviously, you want to avoid putting any passwords into your github repository ... 16:45:57 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:46:01 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 16:46:26 SamB: indeed 16:46:54 |amethyst: 12a is here: http://seleniac.org/crawl/tourney/12a/ 16:47:30 |amethyst: 11b is http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney11/index.html 16:47:35 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:47:45 <|amethyst> elliptic: 11a I mean, sorry 16:48:16 11a was the one that rwbarton hosted... I'll ask if he still has the files somewhere 16:49:19 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:49:29 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:49:50 -!- OndePyrat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:51:12 <|amethyst> ??tournament 16:51:12 tournament[1/3]: The 0.12 tournament will be scheduled sometime after the 0.12 release is scheduled. 16:51:16 <|amethyst> ??tournament[3] 16:51:16 tournament[3/3]: Tourney scoring scripts: http://github.com/elliptic/dcss_tourney . 16:51:20 <|amethyst> ??tournament[2] 16:51:21 tournament[2/3]: The 0.11 tournament ran Oct 20-Nov 4: http://seleniac.org/crawl/tourney/12b/ 16:52:02 <|amethyst> !learn edit tournament[2] s@.*@Results from earlier tournaments: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tournaments.html@ 16:52:02 tournament[2/3]: Results from earlier tournaments: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tournaments.html 16:52:05 <|amethyst> Ugly page, sorry 16:55:12 cool, nice to have the tournament pages all linked in one place 16:55:35 <|amethyst> Give me some better HTML/CSS and I'll put it up 16:56:04 <|amethyst> or you can do so in ~tourney/html/ 16:56:35 -!- s951 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:58:18 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:02:14 -!- Ellick has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:04:30 -!- morik has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:04:47 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05:16 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:06:23 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: Wrong button bad with computers] 17:10:38 |amethyst: I guess I need the MySQLdb module to begin with 17:11:17 -!- popbob_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:33 -!- popbob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:16:42 <|amethyst> elliptic: installed 17:16:49 |amethyst: thanks 17:17:15 |amethyst: oh, now I need mako.template 17:17:48 |amethyst: sorry, I'm sure there should be a better way of figuring out my dependencies than to repeatedly try the script, but I don't know it... 17:17:53 <|amethyst> that's python-mako I assume? 17:18:11 elliptic: are you writing this stuff down? 17:18:30 SamB: yeah, am keeping note of them now 17:18:41 |amethyst: probably, hm 17:19:15 -!- kickascii has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:19:18 <|amethyst> !lm * src=cao rend>=20120701 17:19:24 190701. [2013-04-21 22:13:43] russell the Ducker (L9 TrHu) fell down a shaft to D:12 on turn 7023. (D:9) 17:19:31 <|amethyst> !lm * src=cao rend>=20120701 1 17:19:43 1/190701. [2012-02-19 20:57:23] KidC the Stinger (L4 HEVM) killed Sigmund on turn 3022. (D:3) 17:20:02 <|amethyst> oh right 17:21:54 -!- TrollMan has quit [Client Quit] 17:22:59 -!- oberstein has quit [Quit: uhhh] 17:23:29 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:45 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 17:24:25 cool, looks like maybe those were the only two missing modules 17:25:22 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:25 <|amethyst> !lm * src=cao rtime>=20120701 1 17:25:31 1/194729. [2012-08-01 00:00:57] Kamina the Cutter (L7 KoVM) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 4290. (D:4) 17:25:37 <|amethyst> !lm * src=cao rtime>=20120901 1 17:25:42 1/178364. [2012-10-09 19:40:47] Neil the Ruffian (L1 TrBe) abandoned Trog on turn 0. (D:1) 17:25:52 <|amethyst> !lm * src=cao rtime>=20120801 1 17:25:58 1/178364. [2012-10-09 19:40:47] Neil the Ruffian (L1 TrBe) abandoned Trog on turn 0. (D:1) 17:26:48 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:31:27 <|amethyst> !tell rax I restored the old CAO homepage and added a few news entries 17:31:28 |amethyst: OK, I'll let rax know. 17:32:07 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:08 <|amethyst> !tell rax the temporary front page that's been there since October is now called oldindex.html 17:32:09 |amethyst: OK, I'll let rax know. 17:34:59 -!- Lasse- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:36:04 |amethyst: what are the paths for the 0.12 milestones/logfile/rcfiles for CSZO? 17:38:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:39:28 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:41:09 <|amethyst> elliptic: milestones and logfile are symlinked from /var/www/meta/0.12/ 17:41:44 <|amethyst> elliptic: rcfiles from /var/www/rcfiles (then crawl-0.12/) 17:42:15 thanks 17:42:27 <|amethyst> the chroot is under /home/crawl/DGL/ 17:42:46 <|amethyst> permissions aren't super-tight, so the whole world can see saves 17:43:43 <|amethyst> well, everyone with a login whose shell isn't dgamelaunch, which isn't a lot of people :) 17:44:22 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:36 hmm, does that mean I could ssh into cszo? 17:44:41 or does it have a whitelist 17:45:01 <|amethyst> elliott: that's how you play on CSZO... 17:45:28 <|amethyst> not to your own account, since you don't have one 17:45:36 <|amethyst> but to the crawl account 17:46:20 oh, I thought you meant it created a system account per user 17:46:24 with dgl as the shell 17:46:26 <|amethyst> oh, no 17:46:30 and then I guess dgl would log in as you or whatever 17:46:38 <|amethyst> a lot of people have an account, but it's all the same account :) 17:46:51 the login information is posted for all to see on the intarweb 17:47:17 then there's a whole 'nuther login after that for DGL 17:47:30 Incidentally, I noted some mention of a water trap or something in the backlog from the other day? And some suggestion about making the terrain modification temporary? 17:47:34 Without comment on the trap itself, I just thought I'd mention that I have already implemented a temporary terrain modification framework that handles flooding (and also other things) 17:48:00 In that misc item revamp branch I have been working on 17:48:13 DracoOmega: Havvy was interested in doing something, I don't know how far he got on that part ... 17:48:23 (And refactored it so that tombs and door seals and flooding all use the same code) 17:49:22 Which incidentally fixes a few existing bugs with that, too 17:49:50 i don't really think the trap is such a good idea 17:49:53 it's very similar to mechanical traps 17:50:19 Yeah, I don't really think it's that interesting as a trap 17:50:27 But I just thought I'd say this since it was relevant :P 17:50:52 well, just because it sounds like a mechanical trap doesn't mean it's not worth trying 17:50:56 The branch itself is getting fairly close to completion, I think 17:51:20 A few more things to do, then some heavy-duty squashing of messy commits to make it presentable to the general public :P 17:51:57 SamB: but mechanical traps are bad for several reasons 17:52:01 'The doors slam shut and the room fills with water. A shark comes into view!' 17:52:04 and this water thing shares those reasons 17:53:06 knockback + water could be better than just water 17:53:07 FWIW, last I knew he was working on a sewer vault 17:53:48 a wave that does damage, sweeps everything nearby against a wall, and surrounds it with water 17:54:23 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 17:54:49 Well, the thing again seems to be that this doesn't really do anything unless you're already in combat (and honestly, probably doesn't do a lot even if you are?) 17:55:04 -!- Zauren has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 17:55:34 <|amethyst> DracoOmega: I was saying it would be bad randomly-generated, but placed in a vault along with relevant monsters (hydrae, merfolk, etc) it could be interesting 17:55:57 Hmmm... that might be true, sure 17:56:13 Perhaps a bit spoily if it's a one-off, though 17:56:21 you could do that with pressure plates already 17:56:25 i think 17:57:01 I was actually planning on working on some water creature revamps that would make late D water creatures less lame than presently, and some of those ideas did involve temporary water sprays 17:59:44 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:00:15 DracoOmega: it seems a bit silly for a monster to be able to swim in its own water spray, and any other solution just makes it another turret... 18:00:18 -!- Fear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:00:33 -!- soupfly has quit [Client Quit] 18:00:44 Does it really seem silly for a magical creature to swim in magical water it makes? Or, moreover, to let OTHER things do so? 18:01:38 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:02:49 DracoOmega: depends how it makes the water... if it can, say, cause rainclouds to swim that's not that silly 18:02:57 -!- ryansee has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:02:58 if it's spitting water and then swimming in it, that is very silly 18:03:16 also, letting other things move in the water is another turret monster 18:03:35 This from the person who coded a drake that breathes PLANTS? :P 18:03:53 DracoOmega: no, it breathes energy that makes plants immediately grow in the area :P 18:04:13 Then this thing breathes energy that conjures water in its wake 18:04:24 I mean, otherwise why would it disappear on its own? 18:04:38 (In any case, none of these ideas are implemented yet, so who knows what will change as I tinker with them) 18:05:04 DracoOmega: forest wyrms don't have to move through their breath, though, just trample through it 18:05:57 DracoOmega: if you add a bunch of water spells, turn Xtahua into a water dragon 18:06:13 Haha, that would be a bit of retheming there :P 18:06:28 s/normal dragon/chinese dragon/ 18:06:30 there 18:06:35 Hmmmm 18:10:05 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:10:42 DracoOmega: what about an elemental with solid, liquid, and gas forms? 18:11:22 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:14:39 i'd guess it should do something like: default to liquid with a medium-range attack; turn to gas when it wants to move fast (you're far away or it's wounded); turn to ice when it gets close 18:15:10 Sounds like it would need to be fairly durable if you'd expect to see all this behavior with any kind of regularity 18:15:31 DracoOmega: late level water monster? i think we can definitely make it durable... 18:16:28 Oh, is that what you intended it for? 18:16:38 yes 18:16:50 eels and stuff are fine at low levels 18:17:02 swamp is fine since it's so connected 18:17:07 SamB: have i ever told you that i love you 18:17:17 hehehe 18:17:23 we could use more dangerous mid and high level water monsters though 18:17:41 rusalka! 18:18:28 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:44 kkmstar the Tortoise (L16 MiFi) ASSERT(feat > DNGN_UNSEEN) in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 583 failed on turn 47892. (Abyss:1) 18:18:47 wonder if they could work if you gave them a huge mesmerize out-of-los aura (hooray, more auras...) 18:19:34 would be pretty fun if other monsters were stuck in it, until they see you - they'll gradually congregate there 18:19:55 i guess that'd be a better unique gimmick though, affects a bit too much of the level 18:20:35 well, rusalkas try to drown people iirc 18:20:42 so they should have mesmerize and confsue 18:20:45 confuse* 18:20:49 :L 18:23:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:28 one thought i had is a water monster that generates long-lived fog that autopaths to you and moves like a wandering mushroom, and if you're in LOS of the fog, it spawns illusions 18:24:47 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:24:55 but there are the obvious LOS-blocking problems to figure out 18:26:35 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:29:53 maybe a water monster that can make more (shallow) water to move around in? 18:32:26 -!- morik has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:34:00 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:34:49 -!- Utis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:35:45 how about simply a permanent ring of shallow water? 18:35:51 that moves with the monster? 18:36:01 basically leda's 18:37:21 alefury: at that point it doesn't really feel like a water monster, imo 18:38:13 well, yes. it could be a water elemental that leaks across multiple tiles 18:38:51 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:40:18 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:45:09 alternately, a water monster with blink other close 18:45:15 so it can pull you in 18:48:11 -!- Lovitz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:50:55 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:54:30 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:55:35 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:55:49 03SamB 07* 0.13-a0-417-g14c7ae8: Disable crazy sigil colors 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=14c7ae8e2574 18:56:22 -!- Chozo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:03:31 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:04:52 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 19:05:25 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:07:38 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:09:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:11:07 -!- Zermako has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:11:07 -!- keksz has quit [Quit: Kicked by KickServ] 19:11:15 -!- Zermak is now known as Zermako 19:14:21 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:57 -!- InternetKraken has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:16:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:22:40 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:25:28 -!- Chozo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26:30 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:31:13 03elliptic 07* 0.13-a0-418-gaaa69ee: Fix poisonous cloud prompting on self-target even with rPois. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aaa69ee92ab0 19:31:13 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.12 19:35:53 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:41:12 -!- DrPraetor|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:41:20 03Grunt 07* 0.13-a0-419-g27b33f2: Have monsters act in order of speed_increment values. 10(29 hours ago, 2 files, 398+ 390-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=27b33f2754fc 19:45:27 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:49:25 <|amethyst> maybe Scylla as a unique (unique kraken with heads? hydra with tentacles?) 19:49:55 We already have enough Shoals uniques :b 19:51:28 Books autoid even for Trog worshipers by HenryFlower 19:52:07 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:52:12 <|amethyst> taniwha maybe but I'm not sure what abilities they would have 19:53:02 I thought trog didn't give extra piety for un-IDed books anymore? 19:53:23 <|amethyst> SamB: he doesn't; the report is a flavour complaint 19:53:40 <|amethyst> SamB: i.e. would a Trog worshipper even look at the title? 19:54:19 yes, to know what they are missing 19:54:38 but would a trog worshiper have it on autopickup in the first place? 19:54:41 <|amethyst> I mean a devout one, not a player :) 19:55:06 <|amethyst> SamB: incindiary grenades seem like a useful autopickup :) 19:55:19 ??? 19:55:35 -!- CreepingCrawled has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:55:37 trog players can read 19:55:39 see: magical scrolls 19:55:43 complaint is silly 19:55:44 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:55:46 oh 19:55:49 thanks elliptic you said what i said 19:55:53 <|amethyst> throw the book at or in front of a monster, activate Trog's burn books ability 19:56:06 |amethyst: we have a quota of monster-girl uniques to keep up 19:57:23 <|amethyst> apparently Charybdis was a female sea monster in some versions too 19:57:42 fr: a Scylla and Charybdis Shoals ending. 20:01:40 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:02:58 -!- morik has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:03:23 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:04:39 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:06:38 auto explore glitch by ApsychicRat 20:07:46 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:10:24 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:13:27 -!- Jayrays has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:17:39 -!- OndePyrat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:28:24 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:31:06 -!- morik has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:31:41 oh, I still want to know why inscribing my only throwable w/ =f doesn't de-quiver it 20:34:13 probably inscribing whatever you're quivering doesn't recompute yr quiver..if you do the inscription then Q- it'll unquiver it 20:35:29 the funny thing is *un* inscribing works right away 20:36:06 but you're right 20:36:07 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:36:33 <|amethyst> there seem to be some situations where it does un-quiver, though 20:36:57 <|amethyst> I've noticed inconsistencies but haven't been able to figure out a pattern 20:37:05 :-( 20:37:08 -!- lambskin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:37:15 <|amethyst> (though I use =f, =F rather than just =f) 20:38:03 doesn't help 20:38:45 is it different when there's something else that could be quivered? 20:39:26 <|amethyst> that could be it, or it might have been something to do with having switched to and from a launcher 20:39:27 -!- faz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:40:08 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:40:23 <|amethyst> or maybe a previously quivered item 20:46:40 -!- morik has quit [Client Quit] 20:54:32 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:13 -!- Wester has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:56:14 -!- WesterAlt is now known as Wester 21:03:09 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:04:34 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:06:07 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:06:17 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:18 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 21:08:14 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:01 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 21:13:45 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26:04 why do we not have broom as a short or long blade somewhere ? 21:26:04 SamB: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 21:26:15 !messages 21:26:16 (1/2) HangedMan said (42m 17s ago): you know you could have just removed the lines instead of commenting them out 21:26:19 !messages 21:26:19 (1/1) HangedMan said (41m 36s ago): also it's pretty amusing to know what the actually incoming things are 21:28:13 -!- Svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:28:57 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:09 -!- danharaj has quit [Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~] 21:34:42 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:35:48 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:46:28 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:48:03 -!- Ursa2 has quit [] 21:50:11 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:50:51 brooms aren't blades 21:52:47 Staves, obviously. 21:52:49 Or possibly maces. 21:53:02 It does have one end larger than the end you hold it with... 21:54:33 -!- drage_lanyon has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0/20120824154833]] 21:56:36 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:59:33 but Chrono Trigger? 21:59:40 or was that Mana 22:00:36 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05:15 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:06:00 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-419-g27b33f2 22:06:33 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:08:53 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:37 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 22:15:19 -!- elliptic has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19:47 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:06 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:43 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13-a0-419-g27b33f2 (34) 22:25:47 -!- blackcustard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:37:08 -!- syraine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:38:24 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:40:29 Lyfon (L6 DrTm) (D:5) 22:42:15 Lyfon (L6 DrTm) (D:5) 22:46:11 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:54:12 -!- bitsailor_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:01:03 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:01:41 -!- Beneather has quit [Quit: Beneather] 23:03:45 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:10:23 -!- Dixlet_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:18 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:12:57 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:13:01 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:15:21 -!- DrPraetor|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:17:14 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:23:55 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:55 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:18 -!- Taco_Princess has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:29:00 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29:52 -!- Boyo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:31:26 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:35:52 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:49 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:41:59 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:42:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:43:37 -!- dupo has quit [] 23:43:59 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:54:10 -!- gowby has quit [Quit: Page closed]