00:00:03 making water colors elemental would probably go badly. 00:00:55 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-3131-gefa523b (34) 00:01:51 for april 1st make all water ETC_WATER and all lava ETC_FIRE 00:02:26 Make people automatically include a different random .rc every turn 00:02:34 DracoOmega: ew 00:02:39 I don't think that could work ... 00:02:46 I wasn't serious, obviously 00:02:49 and anyway, it could rebind keys ;-P 00:02:50 We could rename randarts. 00:02:59 Randomly rebinding keys is half the fun of it, though! 00:03:28 03DracoOmega 07* 0.12-a0-3130-g298edf1: Adjust trap detection formula 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 3-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=298edf106450 00:03:28 03DracoOmega 07* 0.12-a0-3131-gefa523b: Make swiftness actually cut your trap detection chance in half 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=efa523babaf0 00:03:55 april fools fr: combine felid and mountain dwarf into a new race, mountain cat: can use shields 00:04:32 deploying? 00:04:38 ??rebuild 00:04:38 rebuild[1/1]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ Bug kilobyte or Napkin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 00:04:51 eeviac: or we could just announce changes and not actually implement them 00:05:06 -!- CampinSam has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 00:05:07 SamB: If that was directed at me, it made it into the CSZO build already 00:05:15 oh 00:05:17 Patch notes: Mountain Dwarves still considered too strong, GDR removed to compensate. 00:05:17 Chei is just slower 00:05:23 Chei is just a fan of slow, huh 00:05:24 Note the version hash 00:05:35 Racial consolidation: Orctopode, Sludge Ghoul, Tengfolk 00:05:50 Orctopode is a great word 00:05:58 heh 00:06:07 high elm 00:06:18 make something that can dual wield shields pls 00:06:23 that still leaves CAO and .... lol so hard ... 00:06:53 -!- Utis has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06:56 eeviac: I wanted to mod a two-handed shield into one of the diablo games once 00:06:58 we could always announce lava orcs ;) 00:06:59 I forget if it was possible 00:06:59 G-Flex: <3 00:07:19 (to high elm) 00:07:48 Eronarn never answered my code comments I think. 00:07:51 * bh grumbles 00:08:02 I still read his name as "eronarm" 90% of the tmie 00:08:03 time* 00:08:19 G-Flex: that's hardly any different 00:10:15 april fools background: jester: starts with book of party tricks and a chaos branded club 00:10:37 I would play that background 00:10:47 that's not OP? 00:11:50 ??book of party tricks 00:11:50 book of party tricks[1/1]: Spells: Summon Butterflies, Apportation, Projected Noise, Blink, Alistair's Intoxication. 00:12:10 eeviac: plus you're under penance from Xom and Nemelex. 00:12:25 we could totally do that 00:12:52 -!- faz_ has quit [] 00:13:01 SamB: we could pick the starting weapon based on race to make it worse 00:13:12 unknown monster: "apt orc" 00:13:12 %??apt orc 00:13:15 ??apt orc 00:13:16 I don't have a page labeled apt_orc in my learndb. 00:13:18 you mean pick one each race is bad at? 00:13:23 yep. 00:13:24 and give them that one? 00:14:08 Halflings would get chaos polearms 00:14:38 can you override rc's and make the jester appear as a krazy klown? 00:14:57 I doubt that's worth the effort 00:15:29 /annoyance 00:16:26 SamB: I'll make a jester branch 00:17:16 you mean killer klown 00:17:26 oh yeah 00:17:32 Killer Klown (05@) | Spd: 13 | HD: 20 | HP: 126-178 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 3012(klown) | 10doors, see invisible, regen, !sil | Res: 06magic(160) | XP: 6868 | Sp: blink | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 00:17:32 %??killer klown 00:17:33 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Quit: I've killed the senator.] 00:17:34 I swear I've been to zot 00:17:39 like, 60 times 00:17:40 ??klown 00:17:41 klown[1/1]: Special damage type used by Killer Klowns. Per attack randomly: nasty poison (spiny frog), rot (necrophage), drain (wraith), fire (lava fish), cold (ice beast), blink (phantom). Has antimagic (lorocyproca) in 0.10. 00:17:45 DracoOmega: so, we, like, can't freeze until April 00:18:50 Well, anything April Fool's related isn't going to be for stable anyway, now is it? 00:19:15 DracoOmega: oh, were we going to fork first and *then* do the joke? 00:19:24 I guess that also works 00:20:13 merge in Crawl Alternative :p 00:21:14 ??crawl alternative 00:21:15 crawl alternative[1/4]: A very old (pre-Stone-Soup) and apparently abandoned fork of Crawl: http://www.interq.or.jp/libra/oohara/crawl-alternative/ or git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl-ancient.git branch "alternative" 00:21:38 bh: it has the Local Global spell! 00:21:49 ?? 00:21:53 ??local glove 00:21:54 I don't have a page labeled local_glove in my learndb. 00:21:56 ??local globe 00:21:56 I don't have a page labeled local_globe in my learndb. 00:21:57 ??local global 00:21:58 local global[1/1]: A level 8 Tloc spell in {crawl alternative}, swaps a LOS-sized circle around you with that around a chosen location: features, monsters, clouds, anything but you. 00:22:05 -!- eeviac has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 00:22:12 oh. Disjunction++ 00:22:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:22:55 `added a new character class: Trickster, who worships Nemelex Xobeh` 00:25:26 "* they know which corpse is good to eat (useful to beginners; if you think everyone knows a kobold is poisonous, you have been playing crawl too much)" 00:25:52 isn't that why they're green? 00:26:00 so everyone does know that? 00:26:01 -!- clinew has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:26:16 'cause obviously green = bad 00:26:32 I thought no one in NetHack had this problem with D:1 monsters 00:27:36 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:27:42 -!- Melum has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:27:44 http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leyzn1rsTp1qey7tqo1_500.jpg 00:27:52 misclick sry 00:27:58 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:28:23 Dixie: you're cool. 00:28:35 -!- fiyawerx has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:29:30 -!- meowfelid has quit [Client Quit] 00:29:33 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:30:46 -!- maha has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 00:31:34 SamB: what skills would you give a jester? dodging, throwing, evocation? 00:31:58 hmm, the first two sound good certainly 00:32:24 spellcasting, since it starts with a book 00:32:24 * SamB can't think of stories involving jesters with evocation skills, though 00:33:20 * SamB can't really think of stories where that *takes* much skill, unless you count that discworld one where it turns out you have to turn some rings to adjust the settings ... 00:33:44 ??cantrips 00:33:44 I don't have a page labeled cantrips in my learndb. 00:33:49 ??book of cantrips 00:33:50 book of cantrips[1/1]: Spells: confusing touch, animate skeleton, summon small mammals, apportation. 00:34:36 ??book of party tricks 00:34:37 book of party tricks[1/1]: Spells: Summon Butterflies, Apportation, Projected Noise, Blink, Alistair's Intoxication. 00:34:41 ??projected noise 00:34:42 projected noise[1/1]: Wakes up monsters in some part of the level. The monsters start to travel towards the noise. Projected to oblivion in 0.11. 00:34:49 that's what I thought. 00:35:34 -!- blerud has quit [Client Quit] 00:37:40 -!- morik has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:57 wow. that worked. 00:48:30 -!- Marceluiz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:50:49 is there a screen that shows which gods are angry? 00:51:43 -!- SetecAstronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:51:49 ctrl-o 00:52:09 G-Flex: thanks 00:53:52 SamB: done'ish 00:56:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:56:46 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:03 New branch created: jester (1 commit) 00:59:03 03bh 07[jester] * 0.12-a0-3132-g0786d14: Jesters 10(6 minutes ago, 6 files, 29+ 3-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0786d146ac69 01:02:30 -!- Marceluiz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:04:16 * SamB starts that building, will try it out in the morning ... 01:05:06 -!- BloodDrum has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:13:54 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 01:13:58 kilobyte: want to test out the jester? :) 01:14:58 -!- Marceluiz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14:59 (I would try it sooner, but I'm not going to stay up as long as it would take to build here ...) 01:19:58 -!- CampinSam has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:20:08 nice background 01:23:22 -!- madSimon has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 01:23:38 simmarine: the text? heh :) 01:29:28 -!- gluup_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:29:33 -!- dcssrubot900 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:33:30 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:43:11 -!- WesterAlt has quit [] 01:52:45 -!- clinew has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:53:23 -!- syraine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:54:35 -!- Thalfon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:00:46 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:05:50 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:06:01 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 02:06:44 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:07:53 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 02:09:24 cdo build failed: 02:09:24 x86_64-linux-gnu-g++: rltiles/tiledef-unrand.cc: No such file or directory 02:09:24 x86_64-linux-gnu-g++: no input files 02:09:32 still failing, since yesterday 02:10:10 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:10:12 hrmph 02:11:07 What would be different about your setup than other servers (or individual dev's computers, for that matter) in a way that would affect that? 02:12:01 no clue.. I do git rebase (kinda like), add cdo-install target to makefile 02:12:06 that's it 02:12:13 could you have fat-fingers deleted the file? 02:12:20 It's autogenerated, isn't it? 02:12:29 Why are you rebasing rather than resetting? 02:12:35 make[1]: Entering directory `/home/services/crawl/source/crawl-git/crawl-ref/source/rltiles' 02:12:38 * rebuilding tilegen: new build flags or prefix 02:12:43 GEN tiledef-main.h 02:12:43 GEN tiledef-dngn.h 02:12:43 GEN tiledef-floor.h 02:12:43 GEN tiledef-wall.h 02:12:45 GEN tiledef-feat.h 02:12:48 GEN tiledef-player.h 02:12:50 GEN tiledef-gui.h 02:12:53 GEN tiledef-icons.h 02:12:56 --- 02:13:18 because i have changes on top: the makefile install target and the scripts to build and install 02:13:29 -!- odiv has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:13:39 can you try building on a clean branch? 02:14:03 mingw builds are failing, too 02:14:40 clean clean branch? 02:14:45 without anything on top? 02:15:02 that wouldn't help.. we already know that works 02:15:09 don't we? 02:15:12 -!- Svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:15:35 this is rather the file noch created because some check thinks it's in place already 02:15:39 *not 02:15:46 isn't it? 02:16:10 it *should* work, but let's separate out something being weird with your environment, something being broken in crawl master, and something being weird with your branch 02:18:06 I'm fairly sure it's not the middle of those options 02:18:19 DracoOmega: me too. 02:18:59 well.. the build system wasn't touched for... a long long time and yesterday it suddenly fails with that error 02:19:30 -!- Melum has quit [Quit: Was eaten by a grue.] 02:19:50 Napkin: can you humor me and build a clean branch? Might as well eliminate the obvious things 02:20:29 DracoOmega: do you know if anyone is doing continuous integration? 02:20:59 I'm not even fully certain what that is, but I think no 02:21:14 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-3131-gefa523b (34) 02:22:01 took my rebases branched, git clean -dfx, works 02:22:06 *rebased 02:22:15 took my rebased branches, git clean -dfx, works 02:23:24 Meaning something in your changes is not playing nice with something else recent? 02:23:48 Though nothing catches my eye in a brief scan of recent commits 02:24:34 -!- bh has quit [Quit: sleep -- good luck with cdo] 02:24:40 no, meaning the crawl buildsystem doesn't clean up properly (because there is a make distclean after every build) or crawl buildsystem does wrong checks 02:25:34 Oh. Well, I'm afraid I'm completely useless in that regard. I don't pretend to understand the makefile at all 02:26:53 well, it works now 02:27:17 after running a git clean -dfx.. but still, that's not the idea of how to do it 02:27:42 -!- SamB_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:49 a full rebuild is costly 02:28:49 I am still curious what caused it to be required in your case and not in all of these other ones 02:28:58 But don't really have the know-how to speculate fruitfully 02:29:28 rltiles/tiledef-unrand.cc was not generated 02:29:46 Well, yes. But WHY. 02:30:10 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-3131-gefa523b 02:30:21 i don't understand "caused it to be required in your case", because i expect that file to be required for the build process always.. no? 02:30:28 the git clean? 02:30:31 ah 02:30:35 Yeah 02:30:36 sorry, in a hurry 02:30:52 No one else reported any issues with that file suddenly disappearing/not generating 02:31:01 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:31:29 i assume the "make distclean" removed it 02:31:40 but no idea about the generation, yes 02:32:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:33:03 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:20 -!- Egglet has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it] 02:38:23 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 02:51:43 -!- syraine_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:59:40 -!- dcssrubot451 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:02:32 03Translators 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3023-g2994f09: [Transifex] Rewrap some entries, rename some keys, delete others. 10(4 days ago, 14 files, 63+ 134-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2994f0965cb8 03:02:32 03Translators 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3024-g0e30c1e: [Transifex] Remove some blank lines. 10(4 days ago, 36 files, 5+ 40-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e30c1e942ba 03:02:32 03Translators 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3025-gd1db65b: [Transifex] New description for Agnes (mikee). 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1db65b1b5e7 03:02:32 03Translators 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3026-g0c95e63: [Transifex] Japanese translations. 10(4 days ago, 3 files, 198+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c95e6339ec3 03:02:32 03Translators 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3027-ga907f59: [Transifex] Restore lost quotes. 10(4 days ago, 7 files, 217+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a907f59d7b50 03:02:32 03kilobyte 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3028-g53e1a4b: Wrap some very long lines. 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 30+ 14-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=53e1a4b37ec3 03:02:32 03kilobyte 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3029-gae4e104: Two canned tests in the Abyss. 10(4 days ago, 4 files, 125+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae4e1045be2d 03:02:32 03dolorous 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3030-g8e3e8df: Fix spacing. 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e3e8df4f1f3 03:02:32 03dolorous 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3031-g07b9bde: Fix capitalization. 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=07b9bdebb735 03:02:32 03dolorous 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3032-ga56f8c1: Fix wording. 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a56f8c1e1d3b 03:02:32 ... and 115 more commits 03:03:06 huh ... i thought chei might not like that 03:03:42 i think i screwed up pulling stuff from master and rebasing my branch 03:05:21 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:05:37 maybe i should just merge these layouts and be done with it, they all work fine 03:06:19 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:10:44 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:14:59 -!- st_ has quit [] 03:19:38 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 03:19:40 -!- voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:21:28 -!- Marceluiz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:22:50 -!- Dixie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:23:33 -!- dagonfive has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:25:46 -!- Marceluiz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:28:36 -!- Marceluiz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:48:27 -!- dcssrubot152 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:01:42 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: Want to be different? 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has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:08:42 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:14:19 -!- LoremIpsum has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:19:50 I just found an altar vault completely surrounded by rock walls, and only found it via mapping 13:19:53 is this intentional? 13:19:58 %dump swinepaste 13:19:58 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/swinepaste/swinepaste.txt 13:20:15 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:21:27 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:41 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:55 -!- Egglet has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 13:30:33 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:06 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3137-gf6bc823: Add formatting fix. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6bc823ae062 13:32:47 G-Flex: a save would probably provide a bit more insight, not sure how much ... 13:34:05 that character just died 13:34:12 so unfortunately you won't get one 13:34:28 that < is a hatch, for what it's worth 13:35:13 well, I suppose an altar vault will at least not take too long to find in the .des files 13:35:40 even without the name 13:35:57 yeah, I'm not sure what god the altar was for, but it might not be a god-specific vault 13:37:20 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:22 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:37:36 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:38:13 I wonder if it was a secret door vault prior to those getting removed, but probably not 13:38:34 yeah, I'm pretty sure secret doors din't get replaced by walls 13:39:12 there are often inaccessible vaults like that, but usually enough of the walls are transparent to see it 13:39:24 or tele traps 13:39:32 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:25 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:41:47 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 13:43:07 -!- yogaFLAME has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:00 * SamB_ hasn't even gotten a look at he dump yet ... stupid web needing so much RAM these days ... 13:49:33 G-Flex: potentially an issue with the vault placement routines; since the vault had an escape hatch it didn't veto the level 13:50:17 -!- Cerepol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:50:38 really i'm surprised this doesn't happen _more_ often, but overhauling vault placement is on my to-do 13:51:21 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3138-g334337b: Simplify. 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=334337b948e3 13:52:14 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56:15 mumra: sounds similar to the problem with orc getting disconnected areas (maybe (probably not)) 13:56:54 G-Flex: you mean, more than 3 areas? 13:57:08 does that still happen? 13:57:10 I mean areas that are inaccessible via walking and stairs 13:57:20 although in my experience they /are/ accessible via hatches 13:57:27 it's happened to me pretty recently 13:57:33 yeah, sometimes trying a few random hatches will get you there, i know what you mean 13:57:44 i could actually fix this ridiculously easily now 13:58:14 i wrote code already on the new-layouts branch that counts the sizes of zones and fills in all but the [x] biggest ones 13:58:32 well, that can happen even with 2 or 3 contiguous areas in a level 13:58:39 if there are 2 or more stairs in the same one 13:59:04 ok i can use the zone info to ensure one stair is placed in each zone minimum 13:59:43 can't you just veto any level that has a contiguous area without stairs in it 14:00:31 veto is a hammer 14:00:33 it boils down to which works out as less cpu time. since writing the code is just a few lines in lua. 14:01:10 thing is, to veto a level, you first have to analyse the zones to discover continguous areas without stairs. 14:01:22 one you've analysed the zones, you might as well use that data to fix the problem, rather than veto. 14:01:35 -!- dcssrubot372 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:01:36 s/one/once 14:02:53 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:04:18 also with a strict veto, you could get a situation where 10 layouts in a row are broken so it takes jarringly long for the level to generate 14:04:37 whereas fixing it guarantees only 1 attempt (even if that attempt is ever-so-slightly slower than previously) 14:05:36 true 14:05:49 you could fix it by filling in the zones with no stairs 14:05:52 after analyzing 14:06:09 which is probably what you meant anyway and I misinterpreted because I'm tired 14:09:12 yes that's what i meant 14:11:41 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3139-g7de76e1: Add formatting fixes. 10(22 minutes ago, 2 files, 42+ 46-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7de76e1e802f 14:11:41 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3140-geff7d36: Properly use mons_make_god_gift() for directly Fedhas-created plant allies. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 36+ 22-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eff7d3674789 14:12:52 G-Flex: actually the way orc layout works should guarantee that all areas have at least one stone stair case 14:13:04 so if that wasn't the case it was probably vault placement that broke it 14:13:12 which is also what you were originally talking about ! 14:13:50 mumra: the problem with disconnected orc isn't that some areas are missing stairs 14:14:00 -!- floatboth has quit [Quit: floatboth] 14:14:18 it's that you can have two areas on adjacent levels that are connected to each other by stairs, but not connected to anything else 14:14:33 or alternatively that you can have areas on orc:1 that just have yellow stairs 14:14:35 ahhh yeah, that is trickier 14:15:24 orc:1 could be solved by always placing the yellow stairs in a group 14:16:15 there should really be only one yellow upstair on the first level of a branch 14:16:25 people have agreed about this forever afaik 14:16:46 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3141-g30938fb: Rename a variable, for clarity. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 26+ 24-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=30938fb10476 14:16:50 having more than one doesn't make much sense and confuses players 14:17:21 true 14:18:46 I would rather have three downstairs to branches, like for every other level, because it's a real pain when I have to escape up the "default" upstairs and then have the enemies waiting for me when I re-enter 14:19:21 BlastHardcheese: that's a feature 14:20:03 this is completely unrelated to anything here, but someone in a facebook argument just mentioned chemtrails 14:21:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:21:08 is that a xom effect? (joking) 14:21:09 aren't you supposed to say something about how 9/11 was a setup? 14:21:51 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3142-g463749c: Remove unneeded setting of the attitude change attempt flag for hostile spores. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=463749c68e1c 14:21:51 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3143-ge0473af: Properly mark hostile Fedhas spores as giving no experience. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0473afe9f7d 14:21:53 fr 14:22:22 I actually typed that in the wrong channel, but to answer your question, I responded with "if you want I can show you a pretty good article about the recent developments of the war between the newly-resurrected Adolf Hitler's reptilian army and the greys inside the hollow earth", then "(that was a joke, nobody can deny the fact that Hitler never died in Germany in the first place)" 14:22:32 G-Flex: I see your protection is faulty. You need to block {facebook,fbcdn}.{com,net} and a crapload of other domains, preferably at DNS level. Preferably with an adblock or iptables --REDIIRECT to avoid broken markers. 14:23:38 G-Flex: why are the greys fighting *against* hitler? 14:23:43 G-Flex: good response. there should be more awareness of the plight of our inner earth cousins 14:23:48 although that line about uncle Adolf sounds good :p 14:23:55 G-Flex: they only want you to believe it's a joke 14:24:43 so, I thought Jesters were going to get chaos brand 14:25:01 elliptic: (back on topic) making sure orc only generated 3 zones maximum and planting both an upstair and a downstair in each would fix the disconnectivity 14:25:07 ??adolf 14:25:08 frederick[1/1]: A svelte fighter-mage, wearing a gold-rimmed monocle. SPELLS INCLUDE: mystic blast, bolt of cold, invis, iron shot. Formerly known as Adolf. 14:25:21 but it would remove the exploration feature of sometimes needing to dive a couple of levels and come back up 14:25:46 mumra: unless you are making orc:1 or orc:4 connected, I fail to see how that would work 14:26:24 elliptic: could guarantee that too 14:26:26 it used to be the case that orc:4 was supposed to always be connected and every region had a downstairs or down hatch, iirc 14:26:35 either orc:1 or orc:4 or both 14:26:44 ok 14:26:59 just guaranteeing that orc:4 is connected and every region has a (stone) down stairs would be enough 14:26:59 -!- shachaf_ has quit [Changing host] 14:27:01 -!- shachaf_ is now known as shachaf 14:27:14 and then you'd sometimes have to go down to orc:4 to reach places on orc:1, which I agree is good 14:27:42 this could work 14:27:43 elliptic: that sounds a sensible way, though the 1 entry / 3 exits thing *is* kind of annoying, especially given that the exit you show up at when you re-enter isn't distinguished on the map ... 14:27:51 SamB_: that's a separate issue, no? 14:28:01 sorta 14:28:07 SamB_: I still think there should be just 1 exit, yes 14:28:16 which is independent of what I just suggested... 14:28:23 yeah 14:28:50 +1 to one exit 14:30:02 zot very occasionally has more than one entrance 14:30:23 should we make there only be 1, or make there always three and have zot be an exception from the 1 exit rule? 14:30:29 make there only be 1 14:31:04 just having three zot entrances scattered around the level with no entry vault feels weird to me anyway 14:31:06 mumra: 3 is just a simple copy of the old state 14:31:20 mumra: I added that serial vault myself, and can take it out 14:31:29 yeah i knew it used to be 3 14:32:01 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3144-g20db4a2: Simplify mons_is_object(), as it's a subset of mons_is_conjured(). 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=20db4a2fffd0 14:32:04 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [] 14:32:21 if I remember correctly, first Zot entry vaults sucked 14:32:44 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34:34 btw orc and slime use the same generator; i assume the fixes we discussed are fine to apply go in slime as well 14:34:49 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:51 it matters less with slime because why in holy hell would you ever explore slime 14:34:57 actually, most branches can get it 14:35:11 G-Flex: folks who want xp 14:35:30 slime sounds like an awful place to get XP 14:35:47 mumra: making slime connected would be good also, yes 14:35:47 G-Flex: hard, but with an xp/effort ratio second only to Zot 14:35:57 perhaps! 14:36:01 to get a dissolution kill duh 14:36:08 slime is quite easy xp if you are a conjurer-type 14:36:20 I've seen disconnected bubbly Lairs too, with the Orc layout 14:38:53 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:42:28 for some reason that's layout_spotty instead of layout_caves, even though the two are basically identical except for # iterations of spottify 14:42:40 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:51:43 -!- keraam has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:52:43 -!- oxeimon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:54:35 did I mention that I was puzzled that the Jester I started didn't come with a Chaos branded weapon? 14:55:16 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:55:24 -!- blackcustard has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:57:39 with a club, people would ditch it immediately 14:58:08 rod of random effects 14:58:56 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:58:58 a short blade of chaos can be massively powerful (if you can deal with berserk), a non-stabby weapon with second worst damage, not so much 14:59:33 -!- SetecAstronomy_ has quit [Client Quit] 14:59:42 what's appropriate for a jester, though? 14:59:43 a staff? 15:00:15 is this background going to last longer than a day? 15:00:46 if not, we can care only about fun not balance 15:01:26 (and hordes of folks wanting to secure than win) 15:02:44 -!- Cerepol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:03:11 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:07:22 if it's gonna be much fun, it would be a shame if it was only available for the one day ... 15:07:26 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3145-g690d805: Add formatting fixes, and rename more variables for clarity. 10(14 minutes ago, 3 files, 25+ 25-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=690d8059681b 15:08:57 could be available for one day every year 15:09:50 -!- sepik121 has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 15:11:17 -!- Egglet has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:12:04 better to ask bh, of course 15:12:35 I already sent him a !tell about the critical lack of a cap 15:15:28 -!- DarthCloakedGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:15:36 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:16:43 -!- DarthCloakedGuy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:17:34 03mumra 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3148-g62c5972: Fix connectivity of Orc, Slime, and other spotty layouts 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 26+ 31-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=62c59724ff19 15:17:34 03mumra 07[new-layouts] * 0.12-a0-3149-g0bdbfa8: Slightly tweak a cave layout 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bdbfa805665 15:19:50 IMO give trickster a +0 quarterstaff of chaos, for consistency with yiuf 15:20:29 or just a regular staff 15:20:35 -!- Zermako has quit [] 15:20:36 imo either is more fitting than a club anyway 15:20:44 G-Flex: regular staves don't exist 15:20:55 oh, those are only for things like enhancer staves? 15:21:26 it is currently viewed as a bug if regular staves generate; they are just being used as the base item for the weapon stats for magical staves 15:21:55 all right 15:22:14 I probably already knew that since I haven't found one in a long time 15:22:44 what are the background's stats like? 15:22:57 I'm guessing mostly int and dex 15:23:43 SamB_: do you know about the calling convention for small structs? Like, 2*2 bytes, or at most 2*4 bytes. We usually pass a const reference, wouldn't it be better to pass a value? 15:24:20 ??book of party tricks 15:24:21 book of party tricks[1/1]: Spells: Summon Butterflies, Apportation, Projected Noise, Blink, Alistair's Intoxication. 15:25:14 now tukima instead of proj noise iirc 15:26:34 tukima's dance with a chaos weapon sounds interesting 15:27:08 -!- DarthCloakedGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:27:42 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-3146-g5fc8082: Fix two issues with monster Ozocubu's Armour. 10(9 minutes ago, 2 files, 9+ 5-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5fc808220db5 15:29:57 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:31:41 -!- dcssrubot551 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35:01 -!- kek has quit [Quit: update config] 15:36:11 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:53 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3147-g22cd56e: Properly use mons_make_god_gift() for friendly Fedhas-created plant ally spawns. 10(17 minutes ago, 4 files, 31+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=22cd56e425b0 15:37:53 03mumra 07* 0.12-a0-3148-g2ac11f7: Zone analysis lib for connectivity processing 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 187+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ac11f70bbb5 15:37:53 03mumra 07* 0.12-a0-3149-g6deffb2: Support zonify direct from grid 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 22+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6deffb285885 15:37:53 03mumra 07* 0.12-a0-3150-ge58e979: Hyper^3 layout engine 10(2 days ago, 11 files, 2637+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e58e97905fd3 15:37:53 03mumra 07* 0.12-a0-3151-gc841bac: Respect doors as passable for connectivity 10(2 days ago, 4 files, 13+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c841bacb93a5 15:37:53 03mumra 07* 0.12-a0-3152-g3f9807e: Fix connectivity of Orc, Slime, and other spotty layouts 10(29 minutes ago, 1 file, 26+ 31-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f9807e1b372 15:37:53 03mumra 07* 0.12-a0-3153-gf304ff4: Add some shaped cave layouts and fill disconnected zones in Gehenna 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 219+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f304ff4dfa07 15:38:35 these new pan vaults that can drop you into the middle of a combined silence and suppression field seem sort of really bad 15:39:37 * mumra prays to an appropriate god that nothing is broken this time 15:39:50 like, potentially more lethal than being dropped on hellion island bad 15:41:17 since you can be dumped next to a pan lord and two greater demons with no access to spells, wands, scrolls or god abilities 15:42:37 -!- spriseris has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 15:42:51 mumra: isn't zone processing already implemented on the C++ side? 15:42:59 -!- DarthCloakedGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:43:05 MarvinPA: indeed, sounds too random 15:43:45 and if you don't get dropped into the vault itself then it's just a silly trap, you'd just shout and lure everything out 15:44:12 (if you wanted to actually clear it for some reason) 15:44:33 kilobyte: yes but i wanted to get a table of the zones and what cells were in them (i have other plans for this beyond connectivity filling) ... i looked at the c++ version to consider how to return this data but it was very easy to implement in lua 15:44:54 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:13 just one or the other of silence/suppression seems potentially less ridiculous (although i still wouldn't be a huge fan) 15:45:37 kilobyte: however for optimisation purposes it would definitely be good to improve what the c++ version can do 15:46:42 (there are further complications because c++ has separate implementations depending on whether you're looking at the grid or maplines) 15:48:02 Fsim for ranged attacks leaves behind huge stacks of ammo by BlackSheep 15:48:19 there are also similar vaults in D containing the same monsters, which seems pretty questionable thematically too (why are an angel and a profane servitor hanging out?) 15:48:55 the only reason for the vault seems to be to overlap as many auras as possible which i don't think is particularly interesting 15:49:29 -!- DarthCloakedGuy has quit [Client Quit] 15:51:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:52:13 and causes interface problems 15:52:50 yeah 15:53:04 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3154-gb25a7d0: Add formatting fix. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b25a7d0b9daa 15:53:06 gimmick vaults in general are bad, trimming worst offenders can't hurt 15:54:04 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:54:33 i'd propose removing nicolae_fun_with_auras, and either removing the two pan ones too (nicolae_semicircles_of_death, nicolae_venn_diagram_of_death) or make them get only one type of aura 15:55:03 -!- Ellick has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:55:05 tavern post: "(btw, the work in progress jester background looks nice)" 15:56:06 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Quit: Dain's default quit message] 15:57:19 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 15:59:12 -!- Svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:02:19 * kilobyte hands MarvinPA the axe. 16:03:44 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:09:05 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 16:13:19 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:15:17 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:16:07 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:22:24 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:23:26 -!- SetecAstronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:24:37 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:35:38 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 16:35:52 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:05 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:39:10 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:41:25 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:42 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Kicked by KickServ] 16:45:23 -!- yogaFLAME has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:10 -!- Chozo has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 16:48:26 i have a patch for "only one exit in first levels of branches" 16:48:38 should i leave 3 exits on D:1 though? 16:50:38 03DracoOmega 07* 0.12-a0-3155-gc98b6fd: Fix being unable to detect traps at ranges greater than 1 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c98b6fdb4b64 16:50:40 I would say so 16:50:40 They might even all exit to different places, for all we know 16:52:45 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:54:51 -!- tswett_ is now known as tswett 16:55:43 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3156-ge9d079e: Properly mark hyperactive ballistos as giving no experience, as with ordinary ballistos. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9d079e608b2 16:56:44 Hmm... won't that have the side-effect of monsters ignoring them? 16:57:42 I hope that doesn't make count as firewood? 16:57:45 +them 16:57:48 I know prisms had some bad interactions with monsters when they were flagged as giving no exp (sometimes stuff would just pile up and stand next to them) 16:58:05 SamB_: Well, it should, barring some other change I didn't notice? 16:58:09 dolorous: what are you trying to accomplish here, exactly? 16:59:07 * SamB_ wonders if dolorous is capable of IRCing 16:59:18 !seen dolorous 16:59:19 Sorry SamB_, I haven't seen dolorous. 16:59:31 i guess if you abandon fedhas they'll turn hostile and ought to be marked as no xp in theory? not sure really 16:59:42 oh maybe you don't get xp anyway because they would have been generated friendly 17:00:08 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:00:30 Yes 17:00:34 i don't have a clue how spore colony stuff actually works so who knows 17:00:43 The only thing I can think that this changes is that monsters get no exp for killing one? 17:01:47 -!- dcssrubot10 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03:21 can anyone have a quick look at this and check i'm not doing anything insane: http://sprunge.us/BVCA 17:03:55 tested with numerous branches and there don't seem to be any problems 17:04:02 Either way, something that kills things probably shouldn't count as firewood 17:04:57 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05:51