00:01:29 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-3025-g3026d04 (34) 00:04:42 -!- Isvaffel has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:04:48 -!- dcssrubot896 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:44 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 00:06:50 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 00:07:59 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:09:26 so, anyone seen this before: 00:09:31 @?? oklob plant summoner 00:09:31 oklob plant summoner (09P) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 30 | AC/EV: 10/0 | 03plant, 07vault | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 08acid+++, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 370 | Sp: acid splash (3d7+7d5); call imp, swarm | Sz: small | Int: plant. 00:10:52 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:26 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:17:18 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-3026-geddbe86: Add formatting fix. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eddbe86ad845 00:28:04 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:37:07 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:37:16 -!- Thalfon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:41:11 -!- Chakan has quit [] 00:43:44 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:48:11 -!- gluop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:48:57 -!- BloodDrum has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:50:14 -!- CampinSam has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 00:51:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53:00 Gem (L14 DsFi) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1190 failed. 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has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:36:50 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:44:49 edlothiol: btw. X> for finding stairs is much less usefull in WebTiles than local, because of the "fullscreen" mode. You can't see the minimap. 06:45:06 When trying to retreat that is, traveling you don't care where the stairs are obviously. 06:45:09 -!- dcssrubot894 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:47:45 edlothiol: I patched my branch to run -print-webtiles-options in a different thread: https://gitorious.org/~plampila/crawl/plampila-crawl/commit/bc0465fed9cd514aab4942e04d774b3c359be8cb 06:51:29 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 07:06:21 that's true 07:09:07 Medar: I saw, but using another thread isn't really necessary, this would be simpler with tornado.process.Subprocess 07:09:14 Medar: other than that, how ready is that branch? 07:10:12 Hmm, ok. I'll take a look at that. Not familiar with Tornado. 07:11:45 Other stuff should be pretty straight forward. So I'd say it's ready. 07:12:40 you would probably just need to set stdout=Subprocess.STREAM, and then stdout.read_until_close 07:13:02 but I can also do it myself 07:13:49 Ok, go ahead. 07:14:41 The current way of getting default config is -rc /dev/null. Which isn't exactly portable I guess. 07:15:38 a lot of webtiles isn't exactly portable, so that's not really a problem 07:15:46 Right. 07:17:32 I don't know if I will merge this before 0.12... the feature freeze is pretty close, and this has a lot of potential of messing the server up; but on the other hand, when it gets on the server, it will affect the stable versions anyway 07:22:20 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:29 How does the backwards compatibility work? Guess I should have thought of that before. 07:24:09 New server runs old crawl exe, using the new client .js files? 07:24:45 no, the client gets the exact js files corresponding to the crawl version 07:24:51 Ah, that's good. 07:25:20 still, the server shouldn't call --print-json-options for old crawl versions 07:25:46 Yeah, that's a problem. 07:26:32 also, the server uses wrapper scripts around the crawl binary for selecting the exact trunk version and asking whether you want to upgrade, so that would need to handle the option too 07:27:22 -!- namad7 has quit [] 07:29:47 -!- everett has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307122853]] 07:30:02 The way I did options.js is that it expects to receive all the used options from the server. If something wasn't received it will just error out. 07:30:36 To not be forced to code in default values in multiple places. 07:30:54 I guess that shouldn't be a problem though, if the crawl version and .js version always match. 07:33:38 yes 07:50:00 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:52:05 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 07:52:40 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 07:53:18 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:14 -!- dcssrubot459 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:21:37 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:24:58 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:26:40 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:29:03 -!- dagonfive1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:31:16 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Client Quit] 08:53:54 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:53 -!- xtsu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:59:02 -!- Zifmia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:59:34 -!- Zifmia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:57 %git /:stash 09:01:57 Could not find commit /:stash (git returned 128) 09:02:02 %git :/stash 09:02:03 03edlothiol * 0.12-a0-2701-g799c181: Webtiles: Fix the ? key in stash search (#6630). 10(11 days ago, 4 files, 16+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=799c181e4b78 09:02:22 %git :/stash -1 09:02:25 Could not find commit :/stash -1 (git returned 128) 09:02:31 it would be so good if that worked 09:02:56 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 09:03:28 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:05:07 -!- Zifmia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:12:01 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:14:01 btw: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7399 09:14:33 how much of explicit stash tracking is even left? 09:17:20 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:18:22 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:20 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:14 %git master^{/stash} 09:23:15 03edlothiol * 0.12-a0-2701-g799c181: Webtiles: Fix the ? key in stash search (#6630). 10(11 days ago, 4 files, 16+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=799c181e4b78 09:23:20 %git master^{/stash}^^{/stash} 09:23:21 03ChrisOelmueller * 0.12-a0-2144-ga07b571: Retire * and / keys for cycling stashes on level map 10(2 months ago, 5 files, 10+ 13-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a07b571a7326 09:23:41 alefury: see above 09:23:55 not great obviously, but it works 09:23:59 i already did a proper search 09:24:09 finally looked up how git log works :) 09:24:56 and since %git just uses git revision syntax, something like %git :/stash -1 is unlikely to be implemented 09:25:14 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: Wrong button bad with computers] 09:25:32 %git f7e9bf6d04 09:25:33 03MarvinPA * 0.12-a0-1047-gf7e9bf6: Remove the forget stash command 10(4 months ago, 5 files, 4+ 16-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7e9bf6d04fa 09:25:56 that seems like the most recent stash tracker functionality thingy 09:26:22 The stash tracker itself still has a lot of functionality for handling explicit stashing that should probably be removed too. 09:26:35 thats the second part of the commit message 09:28:05 i think kilobyte did some cleanup after that commit and removed quite a bit of it 09:28:26 I don't see much in the manual talking about the stash tracker 09:28:40 %git ca0cb5113de369ef5 09:28:41 03kilobyte * 0.12-a0-1054-gca0cb51: Crudely clean up some explicit stash code. 10(4 months ago, 6 files, 7+ 56-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca0cb5113de3 09:28:45 hmkay 09:29:45 except the =s inscription 09:31:55 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 09:45:19 -!- dcssrubot817 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:50:24 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 10:08:00 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:13:41 -!- ApsychicRat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:22:43 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This 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quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:46:18 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:53:23 -!- jday_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:28 -!- SetecAstronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:03:45 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:04:13 Stable (0.11) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11.2-11-g28dacbe 12:05:45 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:31 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:39 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.12-a0-3030-g61346cf (34) 12:21:50 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:27:47 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:08 Renzlar (L10 MiBe) ERROR: range check error (35 / 35) (D:8) 12:34:25 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:34:27 Oh, nice: C++ allows "return" with expressions of type void where appropriate, so you can make tail calls to void-returning functions in one statement... 12:36:58 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:40:44 03Grunt 07* 0.12-a0-3031-g43fbffe: Connect up Swamp vaults after filling isolated areas, not before. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=43fbffeeb5cf 12:43:37 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:45:29 -!- dcssrubot859 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:45:50 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-3032-gda23c71: Remove a bazaar vault 10(25 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 29-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=da23c7156df7 12:45:50 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-3033-ga75c0ef: Tweak Margery's description 10(25 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a75c0ef1c6e1 12:45:50 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-3034-gfe444cc: Don't waste a turn when trying to cast animate skeleton on nothing 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 18+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe444ccd2c57 12:52:05 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:07 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:08 Hi mumra - I fixed a slight hiccup with your layouts. 12:59:13 Hi dpeg! 12:59:17 hi 12:59:27 :S 12:59:51 %git b2c003e 12:59:51 03Grunt * 0.12-a0-3023-gb2c003e: Install dlua subdirectories as well as contents of dlua directory. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2c003ebf028 12:59:56 ...namely, that :) 13:00:09 Hi there! 13:02:18 Grunt: i saw that, i actaully don't understand .... it just worked here? 13:02:32 mumra: did you try installing? 13:02:40 ah right 13:02:50 I never really try it either 13:02:52 ok i see 13:03:41 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04:17 so it looks like it's been generalised for subdirectories anyway 13:05:49 hi dpeg 13:06:09 dpeg: I was watching you die horribly in meatsprint earlier. :b 13:06:11 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: Wrong button bad with computers] 13:06:27 Grunt: is it possible to win? 13:06:32 btw i agree with everything you said in email of course, i didn't get chance to write a detailed reply yet 13:06:39 mumra: no problem! 13:06:41 !lg * sprint won map=meatsprint 13:06:43 10. MakMorn the Spriggan Ballista (L27 SpWr), worshipper of Makhleb, escaped with the Orb on 2013-03-14 22:46:32, with 33400000 points after 167 turns and 0:12:38. 13:06:46 aha! 13:06:59 spriggan, interesting 13:07:03 !lg * sprint won map=meatsprint s=char 13:07:04 10 games for * (won map=meatsprint): 4x DsMo, 2x DDWr, 2x GhGl, SpWr, DDEn 13:11:24 the DsMo wins are with nightstalker, which i think is vetod in meatsprint now 13:12:52 I guess some monster will drop the orb eventually. 13:13:16 ...the Meatlord! 13:13:46 dpeg: did you look at the minion names database? 13:14:26 (i mean, i'm not sure if i mentioned it before) 13:15:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:15:56 not really 13:16:07 should I read all the descriptions? 13:23:25 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop_ is now known as Arkaniad 13:30:23 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:31:34 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:54 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 13:35:19 SamB: I thought returning a void function was a quite widespread idiom :p 13:35:20 kilobyte: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:35:31 SamB: (at least I use it sometimes) 13:35:54 hah we're watching the hobbit 13:36:09 SamB: in other cases, if, say, the function's type is int, you can do: return foobar(), 1 13:36:24 but that's not as sweet 13:36:41 alefury: nightstalker still appears 13:37:27 -!- kek has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:42:49 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:00 -!- madreisz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:51:00 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:48 -!- SetecAstronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:10:18 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:10:26 -!- madreisz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:11:37 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:15:35 -!- dcssrubot17 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:26:42 -!- smeea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:28:45 -!- Stumpsv has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:36:30 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:01 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:48:23 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Quit: I've killed the senator.] 14:48:42 kilobyte: doesn't really qualify as a tail call, either 14:50:14 hmm, ", 1" can't be optimized this way, yeah 14:50:36 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:50:47 hmm, the C calling convention doesn't allow such tail calls, even 14:51:20 unless the second function's list of arguments is no longer than the first's 14:52:31 I mean, for a bare return without ", 1" 14:53:26 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:56:39 is there anything, besides probably confusing the branch prediction, to prevent relocating the return address in the stack to make room for more? 14:56:45 oh, yeah 14:56:55 -!- mikee_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:56:57 the caller cleans up 14:57:08 yeah 14:58:21 most early calling conventions on x86 were "callee cleans up" as that's a bit faster 14:58:35 (used to be faster, at least) 15:03:50 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:04:17 -!- mumra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:05:29 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:02 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:33 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:35 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:16:00 -!- eeviac has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:40 When attempting to enter vaults I get "assert(len >1) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 127 failed" by Waywinkle 15:26:50 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:27:54 -!- yogaFLAME has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:43 -!- Mindiell has quit [Quit: Quitte] 15:35:52 kilobyte: did you mess up 0, 9, and 8 or something? 15:36:16 -!- Kintak has quit [Quit: Kintak] 15:45:26 -!- dcssrubot100 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:52:31 @?? orc 15:52:32 orc (04o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 4-10 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(4) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 3 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:56:18 -!- syraine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:56:56 okay, I've got some artefact weapons I want a monster to wield; what's the best way to make that happen? 15:57:11 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:59:39 SamB: you mean, OODs, or the way 0/9/8 are passed from map_def to mon-place? 15:59:42 both 16:00:12 SamB: a monster with an own enum, or a vault redefinition? 16:00:15 kilobyte: I meant the way they're supposed to work for portal vaults 16:00:42 SamB: for the former, mon-gear.cc, for the latter, orc ; executioner's axe unrand:axe_of_woe 16:00:53 and the weapons are weapons I got with &aa 16:01:17 0/9/8 have the same meaning in depth-1 branches 16:01:19 oh, hmm, no randarts? 16:02:18 orc ; executioner's axe randart 16:03:06 oh, that's even documented, it just doesn't have "artefact" in the documentation 16:04:12 9/8: pre-portal_branches, they had no effect, post-portal_branches asserted out. Post mon-pick, they degenerate to 0. 16:05:09 oh, we've still got that stupid thing where "; " takes effect after the "comes into view" messages :-(, that was not helping 16:07:00 -!- Elkan has quit [Quit: Quitte] 16:12:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:13:20 well, anyway, it looks like https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=239 got fixed at some point 16:14:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:18:09 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:18:15 03SamB 07* 0.12-a0-3035-g9826b80: More PURE, and introduce REALLYPURE as well. 10(48 minutes ago, 10 files, 58+ 48-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9826b8029a10 16:20:50 perhaps IMMUTABLE could be a better name? 16:22:54 well, the key difference between 'pure' and 'const' seems to be that 'const' functions aren't allowed return different values when global memory gets changed (even memory pointed at by pointers given as arguments) 16:24:08 SQL at least uses the names: VOLATILE (can have side effects, can return different results, etc), STABLE (same results unless some state changes), IMMUTABLE (same results in any case) 16:24:44 http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/xfunc-volatility.html 16:27:19 -!- jeanjacques_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:28:31 a good deal of functions that query monster properties by monster_type are of this kind, at least 16:28:32 even though technically they depend on global non-const memory (mon_data is stored in a form that requires an index to be built, once, upon startup) 16:29:05 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:29:05 -!- jeanjacques_ is now known as jeanjacques 16:30:50 If you want to call them like that, go ahead. Also feel free to write better explanations. 16:31:00 (Or, well, any explanations.) 16:32:05 I mean, my only reasoning is that I don't like this colour and someone else has a bikeshed painted this way 16:32:08 -!- Palyth has quit [] 16:33:03 ? 16:33:06 ... 16:33:18 * Grunt kicks his keyboard. 16:34:02 (I'm not really here, just glancing in by phone) 16:34:47 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [] 16:38:49 -!- capablanca has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:53 -!- capablanca is now known as mikee_ 16:42:53 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:46:47 -!- kek has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:47:04 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:47:29 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 16:47:32 * SamB decides to be methodical about this and specify the brands 16:59:04 -!- ghallberg has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:22 -!- ghallberg has left ##crawl-dev 17:01:21 -!- Foophy has quit [] 17:03:38 -!- JamezQ`` is now known as JamezQ 17:10:03 -!- lexodia has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:15:47 -!- dcssrubot879 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22:01 -!- Killerpretzel has quit [] 17:22:11 -!- eeviac has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307023931]] 17:23:19 -!- Wehk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:31:42 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:31:50 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Client Quit] 17:43:02 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:47:08 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [] 17:57:44 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:58:14 -!- iroha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:20:19 03Translators 07* 0.12-a0-3036-g42463ad: [Transifex] Sync. 10(13 minutes ago, 3 files, 346+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=42463ad48609 18:20:19 03galehar 07* 0.12-a0-3037-g973e247: New transifex interface. 10(12 minutes ago, 2 files, 1230+ 54-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=973e247f8fc0 18:20:19 03galehar 07* 0.12-a0-3038-g200910c: Purge the old transifex interface. 10(7 minutes ago, 5 files, 0+ 507-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=200910cb3f85 18:26:20 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:20 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 18:26:21 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: CAO has telnet again. 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I'm terrible at crawl 20:07:38 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:07:39 FR: Wand of Random Effects (good) 20:07:41 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:07:46 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:13 -!- Guz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:08:13 -!- Gretell has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:08:32 -!- stabwound has quit [Changing host] 20:08:32 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:46 Okay, _The orc knight hits you from afar with a polished mace! 20:09:14 but the mace isn't IDed as having reaching 20:09:34 do weapons still id if you get killed with them as a felid? 20:09:55 -!- Lasse- has quit [*.net *.split] 20:09:56 -!- alefury has quit [*.net *.split] 20:10:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:13:14 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 20:14:36 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:14:43 -!- iasov has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:14:43 -!- yogaFLAME has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:02 -!- stabwound has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:18:13 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:19:24 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:19:30 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:35 -!- stabwound has quit [Changing host] 20:19:36 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:00 -!- dcssrubot835 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:21:36 Wait, since when can maces get reaching at all? 20:22:09 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:09 i was wondering this too 20:25:04 ??reaching 20:26:28 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:26:38 -!- varmin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:27:44 -!- yoga has joined ##crawl-dev 20:27:44 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:01 -!- rchandra has quit [*.net *.split] 20:28:01 -!- NotKintak has quit [*.net *.split] 20:28:01 -!- flowsnake_ has quit [*.net *.split] 20:28:01 -!- Beneather has quit [*.net *.split] 20:28:27 I think artefacts might not be subject to normal branding rules 20:29:20 -!- Wulfen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:29:52 Well, they get some exceptions, certainly, but I cannot recall having ever heard of reaching on unusual base types for randarts 20:30:05 Unlike, say, speed (or slay orc) 20:30:51 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:30:52 -!- magistern_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:31:13 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:38 -!- Gretell has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:31:41 reaching[1/2]: Weapons of reaching can be e(v)oked (or use TAB) to attack something up to two squares away. The attack will pass monsters 50% of the time and the other 50% of the time hit the monster in the way instead of the target. It will fail instead of hitting friendly monsters in the way. 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Internet is down. Using irc on phone :( 20:44:25 -!- vidarsk has quit [*.net *.split] 20:44:26 -!- Dixlet has quit [*.net *.split] 20:44:26 -!- yoga has quit [*.net *.split] 20:44:26 -!- flowsnake has quit [*.net *.split] 20:45:51 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:01 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:11 -!- vidarsk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:48:11 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:48:11 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:48:58 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 20:49:56 -!- the_glow has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 20:50:40 -!- SoulOfTheInterne has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:42 -!- iasov has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:50:43 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:50 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:59:06 okay, what is this "confuse" brand 21:00:20 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:58 I made daggers, both normal and randart, with the brand, but it doesn't display even when I ID them 21:01:06 -!- stabwound has quit [Changing host] 21:01:06 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 21:01:17 it's just for mushroom form isn't it? not weapons 21:02:03 -!- vosai has quit [*.net *.split] 21:02:04 -!- Stelpa_ has quit [*.net *.split] 21:02:04 -!- Gretell has quit [*.net *.split] 21:02:06 -!- yogaFLAME has joined ##crawl-dev 21:02:08 -!- madreisz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:02:14 well why does it not get rejected like if I tried to make a dagger of frost or penetration? 21:02:27 no idea, it probably should do 21:02:36 -!- johnstein has quit [*.net *.split] 21:02:36 -!- Wah has quit [*.net *.split] 21:02:37 -!- Lasse- has quit [*.net *.split] 21:02:38 -!- alefury has quit [*.net *.split] 21:04:02 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:05:30 -!- Dixlet_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:06:18 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:40 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:07:41 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:07:41 -!- nimtz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:07:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:08:01 anyway, whatever that brand is for it's been around for a while 21:08:04 -!- Taco_Princess has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:08:18 It's for needles 21:08:48 oh, so I don't need to test that then 21:09:07 -!- Stelpa__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:09:24 <|amethyst> no, there's the melee thing 21:09:26 Does it even function on melee weapons? 21:09:30 <|amethyst> for mushroom form 21:09:42 <|amethyst> no 21:09:44 <|amethyst> hm 21:09:44 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:44 -!- flowsnake_ has quit [Excess Flood] 21:09:45 MarvinPA: You have 5 messages. Use !messages to read them. 21:09:45 Oh, mushroom FORM now 21:09:49 <|amethyst> I have no idea what it's for 21:09:57 Well, there IS a confusion brand for needles 21:10:10 possibly it's for nothing 21:10:28 Maybe it's a meta thing, and we're all being affected by the brand as we speak 21:10:29 except to confuse people like me who go and try to test the auto-ID behaviour of every brand or something 21:10:35 <|amethyst> the needle brand is SPMSL_CONFUSION 21:10:39 ah, yeah, I like that 21:10:46 meta thing ;-) 21:11:20 <|amethyst> aha 21:11:26 <|amethyst> confusing touch 21:11:41 <|amethyst> it's treated like an intrinsic brand 21:11:49 So you CAN brand your hands after all? :P 21:11:56 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 21:12:03 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 21:12:03 -!- rchandra1 has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 21:12:03 <|amethyst> DracoOmega: see player::damage_brand 21:12:20 <|amethyst> that's also how Spider, Ice, Lich, Jelly are handled 21:12:23 so it doesn't work on players then? 21:12:53 <|amethyst> correct 21:13:22 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:23 that would explain why I didn't get any interesting messages 21:13:24 Well, I knew the others counted as branded, since they function as brands normally do 21:13:35 also, if *I* try to use a weapon with that brand, the game crashes 21:13:39 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:43 I probably assumed confusion touch was just special-cased (if you.duration[DUR_CONFUSING_TOUCH] do stuff) 21:13:46 saying 21:13:48 ASSERT(you.duration[DUR_CONFUSING_TOUCH]) in 'melee_attack.cc' at line 3221 failed. 21:14:11 <|amethyst> someone should make that a monster spell 21:14:19 didn't grunt 21:14:34 <|amethyst> ah, probably 21:15:27 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:16:24 * SamB_ tries a thing to get that rejected ... 21:19:49 -!- BloodDrum has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:20:55 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:21:32 -!- varmin has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:21:49 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:22:36 -!- Dixlet_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:23:35 -!- yoga has joined ##crawl-dev 21:23:44 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:23:52 * SamB_ realizes that that's going to crash the game if someone tries it in wizmode, also removes the name from the table in mapdef.cc 21:24:17 -!- yoga has quit [Client Quit] 21:24:33 -!- Gretell has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:24:33 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:24:36 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:26:13 -!- yogaFLAME_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:26:28 -!- Gretell has quit [*.net *.split] 21:26:34 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:27:04 -!- blackcustard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:12 -!- yogaFLAME_ has quit [*.net *.split] 21:27:12 -!- johnstein has quit [*.net *.split] 21:27:12 -!- Wah has quit [*.net *.split] 21:28:50 -!- nimitz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:31:59 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:32:14 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:32:30 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 21:33:14 -!- Stelpa__ has quit [*.net *.split] 21:33:14 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [*.net *.split] 21:33:14 -!- vidarsk has quit [*.net *.split] 21:34:33 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:56 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:03 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:03 -!- yogaFLAME has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:03 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:30 -!- Lasse- has quit [*.net *.split] 21:36:28 -!- rchandra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:39:44 -!- BorekL has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:54 -!- johnny0_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:50 -!- faz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:41:57 -!- ApsychicRat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:42:24 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:42:31 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:42:41 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:42:42 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:43:05 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:43:57 -!- varmin has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:43:58 -!- nimitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:44:13 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:45:41 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 21:45:48 -!- Bree has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 21:46:46 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:02 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:28 -!- inspector071 has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:48:32 -!- rchandra1 has quit [Ping timeout: 292 seconds] 21:54:45 ??reaping 21:54:46 reaping[1/1]: A weapon brand that turns everything you kill into friendly zombies if a corpse is generated. Can appear on scythes and unrandarts. Considered evil by the good gods. 21:59:15 -!- Pepe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:14 -!- SamB_ is now known as SamB 22:01:08 -!- eeviac has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:01:08 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:03:51 -!- dcssrubot686 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:04:11 -!- twig1919 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:04:16 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:06:49 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:08:21 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:09:18 -!- rchandra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:10:47 SamB: reaping can spawn only on scythes, which makes it a wee bit rarely used 22:11:33 * SamB made a dagger or two with it 22:12:06 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: Goodnight!] 22:12:06 I guess it doesn't really do anything to you unless it kills you? 22:15:21 yeah 22:15:51 which makes you not care at all unless you're a kitteh 22:17:36 so does it auto-ID when the player is killed with it as a felid in (a) non-artefact form and (b) randart form? 22:18:57 or doesn't it matter? 22:21:13 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21:51 -!- anastasios is now known as Pedjt 22:21:53 hmm, Felid of Beogh ;-P 22:22:24 Beogh does not accept worship from those such as felids! 22:23:15 * Grunt is watching someone play with a diamond obelisk... 22:23:19 yes, but it seems if you switch races Beogh doesn't notice 22:24:34 ??lives 22:24:35 I don't have a page labeled lives in my learndb. 22:24:38 ??felid 22:24:38 felid[1/6]: A cat race that can't use armour, weapons, wands or rods, and can't throw anything. They gain {extra lives} as they level up. They have claws (lvl 1, +2 dam), fangs, and fur. They cover ground quickly, see invisible, are carnivorous and have slow metabolism. 22:24:43 ??extra lives 22:24:44 extra lives[1/2]: Felids get one every three levels. You can't have more than two at a time. If you didn't gain a life due to this, you can get it later by gaining a non-multiple of 3 level with fewer than two lives remaining. 22:24:46 ??felid reasons[$ 22:24:46 felid reasons[6/6]: Playing a felid is like playing cat and mouse, and you sure aren't the cat. 22:25:52 -!- Melum has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:26:31 -!- Dixlet_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:28:35 ah, it looks to have totally IDed the weapon 22:28:42 and for some reason I'm not a zombie 22:30:12 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:30:28 -!- SetecAstronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:35:39 -!- ToastyP has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:11 03SamB 07* 0.12-a0-3040-g2fe82ad: Remove ego:confuse, since it only serves to confuse (and crash the game). 10(22 minutes ago, 3 files, 3+ 3-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fe82adc4dd4 22:36:16 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:36:54 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:38:28 -!- Guest5183825 has quit [] 22:40:20 So, I'm finished testing , assuming I didn't miss any brands ... 22:41:16 Give away egos of randart weapons once seen by dpeg 22:41:27 ...o_O??? 22:41:32 Chei is losing its mind. 22:41:51 no, it isn't 22:42:07 it's just helpfully giving the title of that issue I linked to 22:42:15 and the submitter 22:42:59 anyway, it turns out that reaching and returning seem like the only brands that are actually not auto-IDing on randarts 22:43:07 erroniously, I mean 22:45:09 I don't think you can get randarts of returning? 22:45:36 At least I don't recall ever hearing of any 22:46:08 hmm 22:46:30 I can't see any reason why it shouldn't be allowed, but possibly they don't actually work 22:47:12 whoops, I accidentally typed "roc" at the &r prompt instead of "orc" 22:47:48 -!- eeviac has joined ##crawl-dev 22:53:05 DracoOmega: well, I've checked and they do actually function 22:53:23 orcs throw hand axes of returning and everything 22:53:30 and they return alright 22:56:12 Well, it may function, but I am still not certain it appears in the wild 22:56:16 (I could be wrong, of course) 22:56:33 yeah, I didn't check that yet 22:59:25 -!- Lasse- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:00:16 though obviously I could make a vault where a monster had one 23:00:39 I mean, it would probably be a terrible vault and I might not figure out what file to put it in but I could do it 23:00:55 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:05:28 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-3040-g2fe82ad 23:07:54 DracoOmega: true, it doesn't look like randarts are going to start with returning. 23:08:34 (Though ITEM specs can clearly override this.) 23:08:50 or reaching 23:09:14 maybe this is a thing we should change, but I guess this is not really the time 23:10:52 Randarts with reaching might be potentially interesting, but I don't think returning can be until throwing weapons is actually something you want to do past D:3 23:11:40 I remember discussing with someone a while ago their idea for an unrand with two-tile reaching. 23:12:17 Yes. I even had a (potentially bad) thought of a newstalker spell that let you reach-stab >.> 23:12:29 yikes DracoOmega, yikes 23:12:59 Am I being chastened? 23:13:46 yikesened 23:14:20 That is a fun sounding word 23:15:20 oh, I also think frost/flame/penetration should be auto-IDed on launchers when we can see that the ammo didn't actually have the brand 23:15:32 That seems reasonable 23:16:10 Do venom launchers get identified currently? 23:16:17 (Or electrocution ones, for that matter?) 23:16:48 I think so. 23:16:53 hmm, I confess I didn't try those since I those brands are also available on melee weapons 23:16:54 Those are both pretty rare, though. 23:17:15 SamB: They are, but the ranged code might be doing odd things for all I know 23:17:28 it didn't really occur to me 23:17:39 Since the ranged code is not known for its transparency 23:18:08 Of course, I am fairly sure that I have never had a monster fire an electrocution ranged weapon at me EVER, so this is kind of marginal 23:18:10 I only tested what I did on launchers because they weren't available on melee ;-) 23:18:44 FWIW, there is no ammo of electrocution 23:19:08 Yes 23:19:13 The brand only shows up on artifacts, too 23:21:33 okay, so it doesn't seem to auto-ID immediately upon electrocution for randarts 23:22:34 or regular either 23:23:57 so, not a randart bug anyway 23:24:05 No 23:24:40 (the randart did auto-ID anyway while the orc was still wielding it, for some reason ...) 23:24:55 -!- tophat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:25:14 oh, wait, looks like he unwielded 23:25:20 then wielded again 23:26:00 I guess his UC is better than his sling bashing 23:26:06 well, was 23:26:11 I killed that one already 23:28:05 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:31:15 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 23:31:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33:12 -!- Guest96795 is now known as jarpiain 23:37:07 -!- home has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:38:13 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 23:38:21 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:13 -!- mattington has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:47:01 -!- st_ has quit [] 23:47:48 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:48:31 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev