00:00:09 <|amethyst> greensnark: /home/henzell/dcss_henzell you can sudo to henzell if you need to 00:00:34 Got it 00:00:50 <|amethyst> greensnark: "whenzell" is the current branch, "master" yours, and "cao" my attempt to merge 00:01:28 <|amethyst> feel free to stop henzell if you need to 00:02:17 Ok, thanks! 00:02:43 <|amethyst> rax: Gave greensnark an account and sudo access; figured you wouldn't mind since he had it pre-move 00:03:02 -!- dtsund_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:03:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:03:31 -!- dtsund_ is now known as dtsund 00:03:32 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2449-g9b9aad5 (34) 00:05:18 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05:23 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2449-g9b9aad5 (34) 00:07:18 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2450-gf98ff84 (34) 00:07:40 SamB: derp, I didn't notice that destructor warning 00:08:53 -!- SirVaulterScoff has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:09:01 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:46 03bh 07* 0.12-a0-2450-gf98ff84: Fixup Abyss Level Selection 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 9-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f98ff8421dec 00:11:04 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130215130331]] 00:12:11 |amethyst: So the messagedb is the old henzell dir and the learndb is in the new dcss_henzell? 00:12:44 (the message-and-seen paths were hardcoded, joy) 00:13:37 <|amethyst> greensnark: looks like both are in ~henzell/henzell/dat/ ? 00:14:06 <|amethyst> at least, there are learndb and messages directories there with today's date 00:15:03 -!- AriaB has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:10 <|amethyst> oh, but dcss_henzell/dat symlinks to ../henzell/dat so it shouldn't have mattered 00:15:14 -!- hyperbolic is now known as elliptic 00:15:21 <|amethyst> unless one of the branches was missing that symlink maybe? 00:15:51 Oh, nice symlink 00:15:56 |amethyst: cszo appears to be *much* faster than cao 00:16:00 I was looking at source to see where the various directories are 00:16:19 <|amethyst> bh: CSZO is a whole machine, CAO is a VM 00:16:31 <|amethyst> bh: so I'm not too surprised 00:16:43 huh. I always assumed that CAO was some massive machine somewhere. 00:17:04 there's not necessarily a conflict 00:17:08 <|amethyst> hm 00:18:14 <|amethyst> at least I thought CAO was a VM... old CAO was 00:18:32 I mean, it's possible to have a massive amount of resources and still be a VM, right? 00:19:05 <|amethyst> CAO shows as having eight cores, Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2430L 0 @ 2.00GHz 00:19:26 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:49 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2450-gf98ff84 00:20:14 <|amethyst> oh, but it shows up funny so I guess that might be a sign of a vm 00:20:31 <|amethyst> they all have the same physical id and core id, with "cpu cores: 1" 00:21:41 I'm trying to work on an arena bug that's causing a lot of graphical elements to be misplaced. I haven't figured out the cause, best I can guess is that the effects are based according to the player's location which, in arena, isn't where the camera is centered. Any ideas? 00:21:51 <|amethyst> CSZO has eight threads, four cores, Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31230 @ 3.20GHz 00:23:32 <|amethyst> AriaB: if that's the case you might be able to reproduce it out of arena with view_lock_x = false view_lock_y = false 00:24:24 Good idea, I only tried that in arena, which crashes it. 00:24:36 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 00:25:09 Is there a way to change those variables in-game? 00:25:46 As in, while it's running. 00:26:43 SamB: how should I fix that destructor warning? 00:27:16 the fix should be arriving shortly 00:27:18 <|amethyst> AriaB: you can do crawl.setopt("view_lock_x = false") from the &^T (Lua) prompt 00:27:30 <|amethyst> AriaB: something like that 00:27:33 -!- GoDrCoW has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:27:47 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:27:47 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:27:50 Thanks, I've never worked with LUA before. 00:28:16 SamB: that's way better than fixing it myself ;) 00:28:38 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29:10 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:35 <|amethyst> bh: (also, make isn't using -j or anything so the speed of compilation has only a small correlation with the beefiness of the machine 00:29:39 <|amethyst> ) 00:29:46 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29:56 <|amethyst> bh: also, ccache might be tuned differently 00:30:00 03SamB 07* 0.12-a0-2451-g0ffb3f9: Remove nasal daemons from Abyss: we had enough demons there already! 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ffb3f99520a 00:30:03 <|amethyst> bh: oh, derp 00:30:04 <|amethyst> bh: it's all ccache 00:30:18 <|amethyst> bh: because everything but abyss.cc had been compiled just a few minutes earlier 00:30:27 ah-ha 00:30:31 <|amethyst> bh: whereas CAO last build about 12 hours ago 00:30:32 ??nasal daemons 00:30:36 <|amethyst> s/uild/uilt/ 00:30:53 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:57 ??nasal daemons 00:30:57 I don't have a page labeled nasal_daemons in my learndb. 00:31:03 good work, Henzell 00:31:06 !abyss SamB 00:31:08 bh casts a spell. SamB is devoured by a tear in reality! 00:31:16 <|amethyst> ??summon butterflies[$] 00:31:17 adventure time[2/2]: www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWtVa0oQRXE 00:31:20 <|amethyst> ??summon butterflies[4] 00:31:20 summon butterflies[4/5]: 12Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 9Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 4Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 8Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 11Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ7 Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 6Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ6 10Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 00:31:35 <|amethyst> ??summon butterflies[$ 00:31:36 adventure time[2/2]: www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWtVa0oQRXE 00:32:01 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:04 <|amethyst> !tell amethyst FR nerf vertical bars 00:32:06 Hrm, looks like that's not why things are animating incorrectly. No clue now. 00:32:09 <|amethyst> x 00:32:15 <|amethyst> oh 00:33:02 <|amethyst> AriaB: I have seen serious drawing issues in arena, but usually only on the second game I think 00:33:13 * SamB likes the butterflies 00:34:09 <|amethyst> AriaB: serious drawing issues as in it's confused about where the line ends, so stuff gets badly wrapped and overwrites or scrolls off the map 00:34:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:34:17 It's especially noticable when the monsters are uniques, since their names are like 9 tiles off 00:34:30 <|amethyst> AriaB: oh, local tiles 00:34:41 <|amethyst> the problem I mention is console 00:34:57 Oh yeah, there are console glitches too but I'm not touching that yet,. 00:35:15 -!- dagonfive has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:35:38 <|amethyst> I don't think I've even looked at arena in tiles... I can imagine there are problems 00:36:01 Yeah I had never actually used it until I started working on these bugs. 00:37:41 -!- bh has quit [Quit: sleep] 00:38:06 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2451-g0ffb3f9 (34) 00:39:56 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:40:05 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:56 -!- clinew has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:45:24 -!- bmfx_ is now known as bmfx 00:46:06 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46:17 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:24 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46:41 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:52:18 |amethyst: Seems to work now 00:52:33 I've left it on master and merged in whenzell 00:53:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:57:03 -!- Sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57:41 -!- jeanjacques_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:17 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:00:17 -!- jeanjacques_ is 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10:36:40 heh. The players seem to think Chei is supposed to be good. How quaint 10:37:00 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40:01 <|amethyst> that's what to make the robe of folly 10:40:05 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Changing host] 10:40:08 <|amethyst> ponderous +10 int/dex/str 10:40:52 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Kicked by KickServ] 10:40:56 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:41:22 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:41:53 |amethyst: what a good item! 10:41:57 |amethyst: finally you can play dg of chei 10:42:16 dg? 10:42:19 oh 10:42:33 or Spriggan of Chei 10:42:49 well spriggans can already worship chei... 10:43:49 How would they gain piety? By drinking !slow? 10:45:00 well there are monsters faster than spriggans and you already get slowed down a bit by worshipping 10:45:03 !hs * sp chei 10:45:04 181. reid the Backstabber (L19 SpEn), worshipper of Cheibriados, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-12 23:59:51, with 1660248 points after 50229 turns and 4:43:52. 10:45:31 that's pretty hot! 10:45:33 oh hm 10:45:37 iirc !slow doesn't actually affect chei piety gain? 10:45:40 but it affects slouch 10:46:05 so i just realised the way i was handling monster folly is wrong 10:46:28 and i'm not really sure how to fix it, because for some reason MR on randarts works multiplicatively for monsters 10:47:04 ??folly 10:47:05 robe of folly[1/1]: -1 unrandart robe that prevents spellcasting, gives -5 int, and recurses itself. Has a random appearance. 10:47:18 the plan is for it to give archmagi, +int, -a lot of MR 10:47:33 MarvinPA: why not just make them not wear it 10:47:40 they don't wear bad items as a rule 10:47:53 who in here is running 5.9.116.83 aka shalott.org? 10:47:54 but i don't see a neat way to handle the negative MR in monster::res_magic() 10:48:03 Napkin: iiuc that's greensnark 10:48:06 !lg * s=name -graph 10:48:06 although yes they probably just shouldn't wear it anyway 10:48:10 2136050 games for *: http://shalott.org/graphs/0fe31a6e8c342fc5c97b47a70cd584145889a4c0.html 10:48:46 greensnark? ping me when you're in, please. we need to reduce load on CDO's apache 10:49:01 thanks, elliott 10:50:18 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130215130331]] 10:52:03 <|amethyst> ah, I think I've got my team name for the next tournament 10:52:43 |amethyst: go on? 10:52:59 <|amethyst> "Confusion will be my quarterstaff" 10:53:13 <|amethyst> it's a little obscure, but it continues my theme from last tournament 10:53:19 haha 10:53:22 obscurity? 10:53:25 that is a bit tortured :P 10:53:28 <|amethyst> King Crimson 10:53:42 <|amethyst> I'm sure I'll come up with something better 10:54:16 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:55:02 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:00:04 -!- dcssrubot461 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04:59 elliott: also as a rule monsters are pretty happy to wear actively bad stuff 11:05:17 so it's kinda awkward to just exclude folly 11:05:28 Here: a centaur wearing the cursed -5 robe of Misfortune {-Cast Contam *Tele 11:05:28 EV-4 Str-2 Dex-2 Int-2 Stlth-- Curse} (hasn't noticed you) 11:07:04 well they ignore certain bad items iirc 11:07:20 MarvinPA: btw can you make folly not hide its identity 11:07:25 if it's meant to be a temptation rather than a dumb trap 11:07:35 yes, obviously :P 11:07:45 thank you (that thing needs to stop existing real quick) 11:07:54 <|amethyst> they're supposed to prefer better stuff for swapping, but I don't remember if monsters understand artefact armour 11:08:05 i think they ignore e.g. inaccuracy? 11:08:08 they have a list of a bunch of things they value on armours 11:08:16 <|amethyst> they treat inacc as -5 11:08:30 but none of misfortune's properties are on it 11:09:48 anyway maybe it should just halve monster MR or something 11:10:00 is that easy 11:10:13 right but then i still don't have a good way of handling this multiplicative effect that ARTP_MAGIC has on monsters 11:10:33 maybe i should actually look at the function 11:11:00 // Randarts have a multiplicative effect. 11:11:00 u *= (scan_artefacts(ARTP_MAGIC) + 100); 11:11:00 u /= 100; 11:11:06 wow that's weird 11:11:09 and folly gives -100 MR 11:11:21 well um 11:11:23 you could fix that 11:11:28 and make it += instead 11:11:46 maybe i'm making the mistake of assuming there is a reason for this, yeah :P 11:11:57 note that folly is just a +3 robe of make hexes even more overpowered for monsters 11:12:02 since they don't really care about int or archmagi afaik 11:12:47 i.e. if they were actually good at judging armour they would probably never wear it ever anyway unless they had really awful ac or something 11:17:18 MarvinPA: Implemented Erik's randart-MR-is-multiplicative idea. 11:17:27 MarvinPA: c92159fe7f003977dee3ea4d16a18176f6435435, it must have made sense in 2007 11:17:39 looks like it applied to players too 11:17:58 huh yeah 11:18:25 i guess when it was changed back for players for whatever reason it wasn't for monsters 11:18:29 yay crawl history 11:23:10 ??Harold 11:23:11 harold[1/2]: A human bounty hunter. Spells: bolt of fire, blink. Uses throwing nets. Pretty unimpressive otherwise. 11:23:17 ??Harold[2] 11:23:19 harold[2/2]: @The_monster@ asks, "Do you mind if I name my boat the '@player_name@'? Your head will be paying for it, after all." @player_only@ 11:23:43 Who's the unique that's looking for the Orb? I thought it was Harold 11:24:20 ??Frederick 11:24:21 frederick[1/1]: A svelte fighter-mage, wearing a gold-rimmed monocle. SPELLS INCLUDE: mystic blast, bolt of cold, invis, iron shot. Formerly known as Adolf. 11:24:23 aren't they all 11:24:43 is trj looking for the orb 11:25:15 i think donald is the only one who actually talks about the orb? 11:25:58 and a few say stuff along the lines of "you'll never get the orb", i guess 11:29:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:30:15 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:49 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:38:27 -!- Garhauk_ is now known as Garhauk 11:38:30 -!- Tegun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:41:20 -!- elliptic is now known as parabolic 11:42:03 -!- parabolic is now known as elliptic 11:42:45 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-2452-g6662505: Move Control Teleport to book of the Warp 10(81 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=66625053008d 11:42:45 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-2453-g8c2c45f: Rework the robe of Folly 10(11 minutes ago, 7 files, 28+ 15-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c2c45f61fcc 11:45:56 -!- Helmschank has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:46:03 -!- bjornvader has quit [Quit: bjornvader] 11:55:15 -!- _dd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:55:58 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:22 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!] 12:03:22 -!- rossi_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:07:24 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:47 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:08:54 -!- Fhqwhgads___ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 12:09:22 -!- CampinSam has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:11:40 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:12:07 -!- superc has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:15:34 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:41 -!- caleba has quit [Client Quit] 12:21:22 -!- Zermako has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:22:23 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:22:36 -!- Illusionbear has quit [Quit: Illusionbear] 12:22:53 -!- roars has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:24:25 -!- SaintWacko has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:29:08 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:30:09 -!- dcssrubot331 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:01 Napkin: Hello 12:31:01 greensnark: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:31:11 hey man, how's it going? :) 12:31:16 Good good :) 12:31:26 I seem to be tormenting your apache :) 12:31:42 yeah, well, actually it's the sucky filesystem being used ;) 12:31:57 ext2? :) 12:32:12 lol, almost ;) 12:32:23 i was wondering 12:32:25 --- 12:32:26 5.9.116.83 - - [03/Mar/2013:19:32:07 +0100] "GET /ttyrecs/Kozaczu/ HTTP/1.1" 200 185293 "-" "LWP::Simple/6.00 libwww-perl/6.04" 12:32:29 5.9.116.83 - - [03/Mar/2013:19:32:09 +0100] "GET /ttyrecs/Kozaczu/2012-06-13.08:16:44.ttyrec.bz2 HTTP/1.1" 416 435 "-" "Wget/1.13.4 (linux-gnu)" 12:32:32 --- 12:32:47 seems like you are reading the whole directory before wgetting the ttyrec 12:32:52 Oh, so this is FooTV 12:32:57 that's giving quite a bit of lag 12:33:07 with the million of ttyrecs of some people 12:33:16 can you change that somehow? 12:33:33 Hmm, I don't know how to discover the ttyrecs without reading the directory listing 12:33:47 is that what sequell does when you do !lg sebi -ttyrec? 12:33:59 Yes 12:33:59 so it, i'll tell you 12:34:04 looking at the log right now 12:34:06 *do it 12:34:27 Except that Sequell will not wget the ttyrec 12:34:33 It will still fetch the directory listing 12:34:45 The LWP+wget 1-2 is FooTV 12:34:53 why does Sequell need the listing? 12:34:57 hmm, any idea how to circumvent that? 12:35:04 SamB: If someone asks for the ttyrecs for a game 12:35:11 (How would it know which ttyrec filse go with a given game just from that?) 12:35:19 -!- syllogism has quit [] 12:35:26 SamB: It guesses that all ttyrecs between start and end belong to that game 12:35:33 oh, that's dumb 12:35:33 Which is correct reasonably often 12:35:44 greensnark: perhaps it could cache 12:35:54 SamB: Yeah, give me a better idea that works 12:35:55 and only get the listing if the game isn't in its known date range for that user? 12:36:02 that way e.g. tving old sebi games won't take five years 12:36:12 Sequell does cache 12:36:22 ah, okay then 12:37:23 so, let me get that straight 12:37:42 you know when a game started and ended, then you are searching for the ttyrecs between that time? 12:37:50 * SamB was thinking it would be better if, say, sequell had a table associating games with ttyrecs ... 12:38:38 Napkin: Yes 12:38:52 SamB: Drop me an email once you've figured out the details :) 12:40:09 so, a tool listing only the ttyrecs between 2 points in time will give what you need? 12:40:22 Napkin: Yes 12:40:32 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:40:39 Napkin: What's causing the load, exactly? Just listing ttyrecs, or composing the html listing page 12:40:45 CAO used to have similar issues 12:40:57 not sure 12:40:57 I had to run a little script that would return just ttyrec names 12:41:15 That performed pretty fast, whereas Apache would fall over trying to build a directory listing 12:41:17 * SamB isn't too sure who makes the ttyrecs 12:41:22 can't tell yet 12:41:30 <|amethyst> SamB: dgamelaunch does 12:41:30 oh, well i guess it's the same on cdo then, greensnark 12:42:17 (if some modifications are made to what produces ttyrecs then I hereby fr recording the size of the terminal with them) 12:42:27 root@crash:/var/www/crawl.develz.org/htdocs/ttyrecs/Napkin> time /bin/ls -1 >/dev/null 12:42:29 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:42:32 real 0m0.040s 12:42:36 not cached 12:42:38 does the little script not sort the listing? that could make it faster, right? 12:42:41 Napkin: That sounds reasonable 12:42:57 I don't recall, but sorting the listing will be trivial in any case 12:43:12 can be done on the client 12:43:12 elliott: joosa's rhf used to do that 12:43:30 Napkin: Yes, although either way I believe the cost was negligible 12:43:37 ok 12:43:40 greensnark: did Sequell have a way to query it? 12:43:57 FooTV did 12:44:05 right 12:44:07 FooTV is where most of the load is coming from 12:44:09 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:19 People query Sequell for ttyrecs maybe twice a day 12:44:31 * elliott is just thinking of @hugeterm being annoying to update 12:44:32 FooTV runs 24x7 12:44:45 Oh, you're referring to ttyrec size 12:45:32 * elliott is confused 12:46:04 -!- s951 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:19 elliott: I thought you were talking about bypassing Apache for listings 12:46:35 Incidentally, rhf used lighttpd 12:46:38 oh, I just meant re: the talk of dgamelaunch producing ttyrecs 12:47:06 i.e., if it was changed so that stuff tracks what game which ttyrecs belong to then it seems as good an opportunity as ever to fr tracking the terminal size along with that 12:47:15 Napkin: I can write a little perl script to serve up directories, sound good? 12:47:30 i was about to shell it 12:47:33 You'd need to point it at the apache ttyrec docroot 12:47:38 Oh that works too 12:47:40 but perl-mod is loaded already, probably faster 12:47:57 elliott: can that be determined from the beginning of the ttyrecs or not? 12:48:04 and you are better with regexing out the dangerous stuff, greensnark ;) 12:48:18 SamB: well, dgamelaunch already knows terminal size 12:48:21 since it lists it in the game listings 12:48:22 Napkin: Oh, I was hoping to drink coffee and let you work :D 12:48:44 I was just wondering how hard it would be to recover for the existing ttyrecs 12:48:54 <|amethyst> impossible I think 12:49:14 surely it's not more impossible than playback? 12:49:30 well, I mean, you could get a low number I guess 12:49:34 greensnark: ok :D getting kid to bath first, though ;) 12:49:35 <|amethyst> oh, well, if you want to process the ttyrec to figure it out 12:49:49 Napkin: Do you want to do it as a CGI script? 12:49:59 <|amethyst> but the metadata used by dgamelaunch to display that isn't saved after the game is over afaik 12:50:12 I was, however, wondering if you could do some simple analysis of a short portion from the beginning to find out the terminal size 12:51:15 greensnark: do you have another suggestion? 12:51:26 Napkin: No, that's nice and simple 12:51:49 I was going to suggest a nice URL ending with / that spits out their ttyrecs and file sizes :) 12:53:04 it's also too bad ttyrec files don't have the TERM env variable 12:53:06 Napkin: And if you parameterize it to find the docroot, we could make it available to the other servers 12:53:49 and the character encoding would probably have been a good idea too? 12:54:02 <|amethyst> greensnark: yeah, at some point I need to get my dgamelaunch-config stuff upstream, but it needs more security, configurability, etc. work first 12:54:27 <|amethyst> greensnark: also paxed has been bugging me to upgrade dgamelaunch itself, but we have our own patches to that too 12:54:42 Ooh, is there cool new stuf in dgl 12:54:43 <|amethyst> and since it's not trivial, I haven't had time 12:55:01 <|amethyst> I dunno... definitely bugfixes including security 12:55:12 Oh that sounds worth upgrading 12:55:27 Aha, paxed has github repo now 12:55:30 we do have a repository with our branch(es) of dgamelaunch published, right? 12:55:40 maybe it fixes the "mudo randomly got wizmode access once and nobody knows why" bug 12:55:49 elliott: That sounds more like a Crawl bug 12:55:51 <|amethyst> SamB: yes, on gdo 12:55:52 That's happened before 12:56:00 <|amethyst> SamB: oh, hm 12:56:08 if (!strcmp(name, "mudo") && one_chance_in(10000)) admin = 1; /* the problematic line of code */ 12:56:08 Some kind of memory corruption that fortuitously gives someone wizmode 12:56:16 <|amethyst> SamB: my patch might not be in that repo, but it's on dobrazupa.org's front page 12:56:31 greensnark: plausible, since it went away when I logged out 12:56:38 greensnark: unfortunately I did not think to enter wizmode before that happened 12:56:45 <|amethyst> SamB: as "0001-Properly-salt-passwords.patch" 12:57:04 elliott: Oh right you mean dgl giving wizmode access... 12:57:16 As opposed to Crawl itself arbitrarily inflicting wizmode on someone 12:57:23 well all I know is I pressed & 12:57:25 <|amethyst> SamB: another thing I need to do in my copious free time 12:57:27 and it asked me if I wanted to enter wizard mode 12:57:31 and I went wtf 12:57:50 is |amethyst salting passwords in his free time 12:57:56 a great hobby 12:58:12 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: guess what it used to use as the salt 12:58:15 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: just guess 12:58:16 I don't think you can salt the passwords after they've been set 12:58:32 |amethyst: i think i was around when the patch was created. :) 12:58:36 <|amethyst> heh 12:58:54 was it the coolrobin password 12:58:56 |amethyst: the date? 12:59:02 that would be airtight 12:59:04 <|amethyst> SamB: first two letters of the password 12:59:08 HAH 12:59:20 <|amethyst> SamB: it even used that as a "hint" if you ran dgl passwd username 12:59:26 <|amethyst> s/used/displayed/ 12:59:29 nice 12:59:42 <|amethyst> now it says everyone's hint is $6 :) 12:59:48 oh, right, the salt is plaintext, even worse! 12:59:49 so you only needed at most 6 more chars 12:59:51 6 dollar hint 13:00:10 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: right, since it was oldcrypt 13:00:15 |amethyst: what, you pay $6 and you can have the account even if it's not yours? 13:00:40 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:00:43 * SamB does not have a manpage for oldcrypt 13:00:44 |amethyst: five levels deep and horribly boring? 13:00:46 scnr 13:00:49 <|amethyst> SamB: nah, that's just the first two letters of how glibc represents "SHA-512" 13:01:37 <|amethyst> SamB: just man 3 crypt -- the original algorithm was based on triple-DES with some tweaks, but the key (password) is just 56 bits so eight characters 13:02:01 |amethyst: yeah, I did go to the crypt manpage when oldcrypt turned up nothing 13:03:51 -!- maha has quit [Client Quit] 13:05:56 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:07:36 -!- maha has quit [Client Quit] 13:10:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:10:58 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:17 -!- superc has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:14:08 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:15:51 -!- st_ has quit [] 13:16:49 greensnark, do we need case-insensitivity for player names? 13:17:22 Napkin: No 13:17:45 Sequell and FooTV both know the exact case 13:17:48 http://crawl.develz.org/cgi-bin/ttyrecs?Napkin 13:18:02 should work 13:18:11 gives you a "ls -1U" 13:18:16 Napkin: How much does it cost to add file size 13:18:27 Ideally in bytes 13:18:37 As in: every line 13:18:45 easy, i think, give me a second 13:18:48 Looks good otherwise 13:19:13 We should test that on someone with lots of ttyrecs 13:19:24 You don't play enough :) 13:19:31 no, not so easy to format ls' output 13:19:31 !lg sebi s=src 13:19:32 103643 games for sebi: 101451x cdo, 2192x cao 13:19:39 only the timestamp can be easily formated 13:19:42 Napkin: Could you try that for Sebi ^^ 13:19:44 http://crawl.develz.org/cgi-bin/ttyrecs?Sebi 13:19:49 seems to load quickly at least 13:19:55 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:19:58 Napkin: Don't need the timestamp, that's embedded in filename 13:20:05 exactly 13:20:07 could omit the .ttyrec.bz2 for size, if all the ttyrecs are bzip2ed 13:20:16 Not all the ttyrecs are bzipped 13:22:24 are some of them compressed in other ways? 13:22:36 Some servers used gz 13:22:43 Anyway, I'd like the exact filename 13:22:58 Without having to embed rules that are prone to change into consumers 13:23:07 makes sense 13:23:27 I was just a bit worried you might say "no, some of them are uncompressed" 13:23:56 Well, there's usually a cronjob of some kind that comes around and compresses ttyrecs 13:23:58 They're generated uncompressed 13:24:09 So there's a window with uncompressed ttyrecs 13:26:31 Napkin: I can use these ttyrec listings as soon as file sizes are available :) 13:26:43 (no hurry :)) 13:27:33 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:40 sorry :) 13:31:05 well, trying to figure out how to prevent ls from taking ages 13:31:16 -1U - lightning fast 13:31:19 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:31:27 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:30 Yes, I wondered if statting each file was going to be costly 13:31:43 anything else to show size of file - very slow, seems to do stat on each file 13:32:34 I suppose we could go with this and tweak FooTV a bit 13:32:38 hm, why does footv need to know ttyrec size? 13:32:40 Let's leave it as is 13:32:59 give me some more time to play :) 13:33:05 Cool :) 13:33:06 -!- codrus has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:33:11 I'll be back in 30 13:33:18 ok :) 13:33:43 elliott: It doesn't really, mainly some obsolete checks on not fetching superlarge ttyrecs 13:33:47 ah 13:33:54 1lg apocalypserobin -tv: greensnark: oh, interesting 13:34:13 And it tries to figure out how many ttyres to fetch ahead of time but that will be easy to change 13:34:16 Anyway, laters 13:34:35 I guess it makes sense that ttyrecs would be initially uncompressed, since that way they can be kept up-to-date during play 13:37:35 -!- ajikeshi_ has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 13:41:50 -!- Vizer has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:04 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 13:49:44 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:51:31 well, greensnark? 13:52:05 --- 13:52:07 ttyrecs/Sebi> time /bin/ls -1Us > /dev/null 13:52:10 real 0m18.375s 13:52:11 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:52:17 ttyrecs/Sebi> sync; sync; sync 13:52:21 ttyrecs/Sebi> time /bin/ls -1U > /dev/null 13:52:24 real 0m0.037s 13:52:27 --- 13:52:29 -!- Zrachosh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:52:41 perhaps the script can take a date range? 13:52:48 then Sequell can pass only the range it cares about 13:52:54 and the problem would only be with really gigantic _games_ 13:54:15 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:26 impressive - removing -U (letting it sort) adds 23ms to "-1U" and 11s to "-1Us" 14:00:12 -!- johnstein has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:00:15 -!- dcssrubot2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:04:22 Delete key does nothing (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6731) by silent 14:14:44 Napkin: Let's skip the sizes :) 14:15:03 don't you think? quite a big difference there 14:15:11 i'm a bit surprised 14:15:39 at least i can offer sorted ;) 14:16:17 removed -U 14:16:20 but don't you need to check the inodes to get the sizes? 14:16:31 so it shouldn't be that surprising ... 14:17:08 Napkin: Sorting not needed, the clients sort anyway :) 14:17:56 alright, cpu saved then ;) 14:19:40 -!- anidude has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:21:42 definitely, http://crawl.develz.org/cgi-bin/ttyrecs?Sebi is quite fast now 14:22:33 now we just need a reason to watch Sebi games... 14:22:43 hehe 14:23:51 SamB: i'm rather surprised it's so slow in general 14:23:55 -!- nooodl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:24:34 03elliptic 07* 0.12-a0-2454-gdca8a20: Increase chance that the Orb refuses to be apported. 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dca8a20a7964 14:24:36 30 seconds to list name, size & timestamp of 27k files in a sorted way 14:24:36 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:49 18 seconds to list name, size & timestamp of 27k files in an unsorted way 14:25:00 Napkin: Can you fix the script to only allow word characters in parameter 14:25:05 http://crawl.develz.org/cgi-bin/ttyrecs?.. should not work 14:25:38 doh, it had escaped it at first 14:26:32 MarvinPA: I like how you said "possibly a relic" when I gave you proof they were done simultaneously :( 14:26:51 well i mean the fact that it wasn't changed back 14:28:56 do warpers suck now? 14:29:09 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:10 no 14:29:11 no they got a new spell 14:29:28 DracoOmega: hey, you should try out your new dev powers ;) 14:29:39 I plan to! :) 14:29:39 DracoOmega: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:30:05 they did? 14:30:09 yes 14:30:13 "passage of golubria" 14:30:17 oh, congrats DracoOmega 14:30:19 ohhhh 14:30:36 Thanks :) 14:30:43 hm, didnt they already have that? -.- 14:30:59 I wonder if I was the only one who consistently used passage over scblink as a warper? 14:31:02 yes but not really because they had ctele instead 14:31:12 ok, done, greensnark 14:31:13 thanks 14:31:20 but now they don't have free semicblinks so they can use a more interesting spell instead! 14:31:29 yay! 14:31:35 I actually found passage more reliable than scblink, anyway 14:31:48 Since you never ended up randomly in the opposite direction of where you were trying to go 14:31:56 (Even if it is admittedly slower) 14:32:15 also they still start with a scroll of blinking and a whole bunch of darts of dispersal so i don't think they can possibly be bad 14:32:44 my warpers were mainly just melee fighters with shroud and blink anyway 14:32:56 have to kill the dudes somehow 14:33:01 cant do it with tloc 14:33:11 maybe warper is not the class for you 14:33:21 yeah, probably 14:33:48 I quite like warpers. I'm actually sort of surprised they don't seem more popular 14:34:06 only the good players like running away 14:34:10 there arent that many of them 14:34:12 so... 14:34:25 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:49 !lg * xl>5 cv>=0.11 s=cls x=-cdist(name) 14:34:51 102034 games for * (xl>5 cv>=0.11): 565x Stalker [249], 727x Healer [262], 926x Warper [308], 1350x Artificer [358], 2080x Wanderer [424], 1281x Arcane Marksman [436], 1495x Summoner [478], 1413x Death Knight [482], 2391x Chaos Knight [492], 1825x Abyssal Knight [522], 1757x Skald [536], 2298x Earth Elementalist [549], 1946x Air Elementalist [554], 2154x Priest [581], 2739x Assassin [590], 1651x V... 14:34:59 healers are next to go rip ely 14:36:37 -!- home_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:36:41 priest was confusing until I remembered beogh 14:37:27 !lg * xl>5 cv>=0.11 cls=priest s=crace 14:37:28 2154 games for * (xl>5 cv>=0.11 cls=priest): 1637x Hill Orc, 206x Minotaur, 112x Human, 29x Ogre, 28x High Elf, 19x Octopode, 17x Draconian, 16x Troll, 15x Kobold, 14x Naga, 14x Spriggan, 9x Deep Dwarf, 7x Sludge Elf, 7x Centaur, 7x Halfling, 6x Felid, 6x Tengu, 3x Merfolk, 2x Deep Elf 14:37:38 3/4, wow 14:38:04 Well, hopefully Beogh will soon be getting less painful, too :P 14:38:12 :) 14:38:26 by which you sadly don't mean removed 14:38:31 No, I do not 14:38:35 a shame 14:38:37 I prefer to improve than remove 14:38:42 As a general policy 14:38:51