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00:03:21 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2375-gaa31237 (34)
00:05:52 <Sizzell> Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2375-gaa31237 (34)
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03:14:34 <elliott> is this for pitsprint
03:14:49 <st_> I assume you mean meat and yes
03:15:04 <elliott> er yes
03:15:07 <elliott> same thing
03:15:08 <elliott> all is meat
03:15:39 <st_> two and bit albums in and I've done 3/19
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04:24:21 <Cheibriados> Confusion and sleep monsters randomly move around (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6681) by Soyweiser
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04:53:33 <elliott> will people ever stop reporting sleepwalking
04:53:38 <elliott> x explicitly tells you it's not a bug!
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04:59:46 <st_> does it say sleepslithering if you confuse sleep a naga
04:59:54 <st_> because I will BR it if not
05:01:15 <elliott> and what if it flies??
05:01:27 <st_> sleepgliding
05:01:31 <bhaak> sleepflying should be hurting the monster
05:01:52 <st_> also, sleephopping etc
05:01:54 <bhaak> are the detrimentous effects on the monsters if you wake them while they are sleepwalking?
05:02:03 <bhaak> FR: sleepshopping
05:02:05 <st_> I mean if we have this for reanimation, it's just sloppy not to have it for this too
05:02:35 <st_> also, you need specific messages instead of kneeling at altars for bad forms.
05:03:40 <elliott> you bark at the altar of xom
05:05:05 <st_> you wilt upon the altar of kikubaaqudgha
05:06:26 <elliott> come on that was a good pun
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05:06:37 <elliott> bhaak: kind of hard to use vending machines in your sleep, no? :)
05:10:10 <bhaak> not at all!
05:10:31 <bhaak> people have done much harder things in their sleep than throw some money at a shopkeeper
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06:12:59 <alefury> another sleepwalking report on mantis
06:13:23 <alefury> i closed it as duplicate, but this may still be worth discussing
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06:17:35 <elliott> here is the discussion: sleepwalking is fantastic and awesome
06:17:38 <elliott> and also the best thing ever
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07:27:15 <mumra> alefury: maybe just a different status icon for confused + asleep so players get a hint it's a different effect
07:28:27 <alefury> well, that would help with tiles, yes
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09:07:00 <kilobyte> mumra: maybe we can just fix the bug instead?
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09:08:48 <alefury> well, its not a bug
09:08:57 <alefury> just weird
09:09:50 <kilobyte> it causes bug reports again and again, so it's not an isolated opinion
09:10:29 <elliott> it's explicitly described in the interface, maybe it can be made more clear but I don't think it's ambiguous as-is if you actually examine stuff
09:11:20 <ChrisOelmueller> i'd like fixing it also
09:12:34 <kilobyte> it also causes other bugs, like that ensorcelled hibernation problem
09:14:28 <alefury> i find it irrelevant to gameplay, and not especially funny or interesting, so yeah, might as well remove it
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09:30:20 <ChrisOelmueller> irrelevant to gameplay in the same sense as petrification not keeping some flying monsters in the air
09:30:31 <ChrisOelmueller> which is way more confusing and should also be fixed asap
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12:19:03 <Cheibriados> Purification does not cure petrification. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6682) by TannedBear
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12:22:31 <DracoOmega> I've uploaded a newly tweaked Vaults monster patch to mantis
12:23:27 <DracoOmega> Lets wardens shove players out of doorways, ?vuln and such dispel sentinel's mark, and reduces the chance of convokers recalling in more monsters when there are already a fair number around
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12:34:18 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-2376-g6b71b7b: Let Ely Purification be used during petrification (#6682) 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b71b7b19295
12:42:15 <kilobyte> should even Ely cure magic rather than forms of disease?
12:42:35 <kilobyte> seems strange to me
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12:44:26 <DracoOmega> Confusion isn't a 'form of disease' either
12:44:36 <DracoOmega> Or slow
12:45:42 <kilobyte> she doesn't remove most effects
12:46:00 <kilobyte> only two feel wrong to me: slow and now petrification
12:46:33 <kilobyte> confusion is an illness, even if short-term
12:46:43 <DracoOmega> I don't think magical confusion is particularly like an illness
12:47:03 <DracoOmega> If you're resisting it via MR and all
12:48:38 <DracoOmega> Also, this commit was merely changing the ability to match the description it already had. Well, more like, the ability already removed petrification, it's just that you couldn't use it while petrifying and thus it didn't actually function
12:51:23 <elliptic> kilobyte: I'd say slowness is an illness also... it's caused by non-magical sources like curare and miasma
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12:53:59 <kilobyte> sometimes, yeah
12:54:03 <kilobyte> good point
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13:14:44 <Cheibriados> hostile enemy healing message incorrection refers to "you" rather than the actual target of the heal (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6683) by Mattlistener
13:16:13 <ChrisOelmueller> why would it target a kobold skeleton at all
13:16:19 <ChrisOelmueller> or the player, of course
13:21:00 <DracoOmega> There's definitely something off with the friendly targeters recently
13:21:17 <DracoOmega> A couple days ago I saw an ogre mage has a red ugly thing while claiming to be aiming at an ogre that was in the opposite direction
13:21:41 <DracoOmega> haste a*
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13:33:23 <DracoOmega> But it definitely doesn't happen in the majority of cases, since I can't currently seem to replicate it
13:33:55 <faze> DracoOmega: i've noticed that allies are a bit lax at aiming lately
13:34:08 <DracoOmega> What do you mean?
13:34:36 <faze> i was playing a makhleb character, and cacodemons were confusing me
13:34:49 <DracoOmega> Well, none of these changes should affect targeters for hostile things
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13:34:59 <faze> it was a friendly cacodemon
13:35:04 <faze> this was a couple weeks ago  maybe
13:35:06 <DracoOmega> Yes, but I mean effects that are hostile
13:35:09 <faze> ahh
13:35:13 <DracoOmega> Like confusion is (but haste other isn't)
13:35:18 <faze> got it
13:35:49 <DracoOmega> So this may well be a seperate issue
13:35:53 <faze> ah, you're talking about monsters with friendly buffs targeting monsters of other species
13:35:58 <DracoOmega> Yes
13:36:11 <DracoOmega> Well, moreover, not targeting the thing the message claims they are, either
13:36:13 <faze> kryft just got hit by an acid blob as a jiyva character
13:36:41 <faze> i suppose thats a different issue too
13:37:11 <DracoOmega> Well, I think stuff has always been able to aim in a way that could hit you if it thinks it's still a lot more harmful to its enemies than its allies
13:37:15 <faze> was friendly targeting changed for deep troll shamans?
13:37:24 <DracoOmega> Not really, no
13:37:27 <faze> hm
13:37:30 <DracoOmega> But I fixed a long-standing bug in it before that
13:37:37 <faze> ah ok
13:37:42 <DracoOmega> And then dolorous did a few more things, though a lot of that was mostly tidying, I think
13:37:53 <DracoOmega> But it's always possible there's been some obscure side-effect here
13:37:59 <faze> the ogre mage hasting an ugly thing in the opposite direction of the ogre it is trying to target seems hard to replicate
13:38:13 <DracoOmega> Well, I spent a while in wizmode just then and can't get it to do anything like that
13:38:18 <faze> hm
13:38:31 <DracoOmega> Using various positional setups and lots of time
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13:38:51 <faze> i'll let you know if i see anything weird
13:38:55 <DracoOmega> Sure
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13:42:39 <DracoOmega> Oh, I finally got it to happen then
13:42:55 <DracoOmega> I am wondering now if it may be aiming at an ogre on the other side of a wall
13:44:06 <DracoOmega> I think that may be the issue, actually. It is aiming at an ogre that neither it nor the player can see, and then hitting something else in the way
13:44:31 <faze> weird
13:46:28 <DracoOmega> Easily fixeable, I think
13:46:51 <faze> insert a LOS check?
13:47:44 <DracoOmega> Well, I'm thinking something a little bit better
13:47:51 <DracoOmega> And only fire the spell if it will hit what it's aiming at
13:48:20 <DracoOmega> There's probably no need to preserve the ability to haste normally invalid targets if they happen to be in the way
13:49:18 <jilles> it seems valid that it might hit an invisible monster that is in the way
13:51:15 <DracoOmega> Yes, but I think the tracer takes care of that
13:51:27 <DracoOmega> And doesn't consider things that the caster can't see as being there
13:51:46 <DracoOmega> So this should only affect cases where the caster KNOWS it can't hit its target
13:52:55 <DracoOmega> Though I wonder if there's something else going on here, too. Since it's still not as easy to replicate as it seems it ought to be
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14:11:01 <DracoOmega> Hmmm... no, there IS a los check already in there. It was just in a way that I didn't notice
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14:11:57 <DracoOmega> What're you whistling about? :P
14:12:14 <HangedMan> certain rooms
14:12:17 <HangedMan> that are special
14:12:42 <DracoOmega> Ah, heh
14:13:34 <DracoOmega> Join the queue, I guess? :)
14:14:00 <HangedMan> playing the waiting game
14:14:20 <HangedMan> I was about to submit a certain misc minivaults fixes patch today too
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14:16:50 <DracoOmega> I went through to remove any spiked flails from the Vault guys today, but as it turns out, none of the new equipment lists actually contained that anyway
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14:17:30 <HangedMan> unconscious pre-emptive planning, obviously
14:18:16 <DracoOmega> I mean, preservers could generate with basically every mace-ish weapon BUT that (and eveningstars), oddly
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14:24:21 <DracoOmega> Well, I don't know that this quashes some of the more obscure cases, but it does quash at least some and MIGHT fix #6659 too (though I am not sure without more details)
14:24:32 <HangedMan> mm
14:24:41 <DracoOmega> Going to fix a couple other minor things while I'm at it, I think
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16:03:08 <Cheibriados> 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2377-g1f2a5a0: Comment fix. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f2a5a0bd1b2
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16:07:58 <DracoOmega> Would anyone object if I made the targetter for AUTOMATIC_HIT stuff only show a path up to the first thing affected?
16:08:14 <DracoOmega> Rather than continuing onward to things it cannot affect?
16:08:20 <|amethyst> DracoOmega:  sounds good
16:08:39 <DracoOmega> Okay, I'll toss that in with this bugfix patch I'm working on
16:11:39 <|amethyst> DracoOmega:  was the tracer broken too?
16:11:56 <|amethyst> and is this related to the gnoll shaman targetting thing?
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16:12:29 <DracoOmega> Yes to both, actually. Well, sort of. AUTOMATIC_HIT beams were slightly broken in that they always acted as though they were aimed at a spot
16:12:34 <DracoOmega> (That was my fault, sorry)
16:12:50 <DracoOmega> But you mostly wouldn't notice unless you were trying to fire magic darts at invisible things, really
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16:13:17 <Cheibriados> Pile of many miscellaneous little vault edits. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6684) by Claws
16:13:21 <DracoOmega> The gnoll shaman thing is unrelated, but I started fixing this other stuff while I was at it
16:13:31 <HangedMan> have not ever done anything as exhausting as that patch
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16:15:54 <DracoOmega> Also, I think some of this targetter selection code can be tidied up while I'm here
16:16:28 <DracoOmega> With stuff like:
16:16:28 <DracoOmega> case SPELL_THROW_FLAME:
16:16:28 <DracoOmega> return new targetter_beam(&you, range, spell_to_zap(spell), pow, true, 0, 0);
16:16:28 <DracoOmega> case SPELL_THROW_FROST:
16:16:28 <DracoOmega> return new targetter_beam(&you, range, ZAP_THROW_FROST, pow, true, 0, 0);
16:16:50 <DracoOmega> (Multiplied by several more)
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16:36:20 <Grunt> HangedMan: I need to leave shortly, but I see only one minor naggling thing about that patch which I'll probably fix myself when I get back home unless someone comes up with something in the meantime:
16:36:25 <Grunt> we need a "tengu conjurer" description <_<
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16:37:50 <HangedMan> clearly not a vault thing, not my area of expertise
16:38:38 <Grunt> No, but you're good at convincing people to do things. :b
16:38:52 <HangedMan> only when it's a five-second fix
16:39:08 <Grunt> That's about as much effort as I put in to my average vault monster description >_>
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16:44:01 <Zannick> "It's a conjuring tengu."
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16:55:08 <blackcustard> i added a patch to 6445 ("allies can torment you") in january and marked it for feedback; i'm not sure it's even something that NEEDS to be fixed, and i don't really care either way ... but i was sort of expecting someone to eventually provide feedback XD
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17:11:26 <HangedMan> uggggggghhhh
17:11:54 <HangedMan> +WEIGHT: 999999
17:12:41 <blackcustard> IT'S OVER 900000!
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17:18:44 <MarvinPA> HangedMan: it's fine i'll upload a new version fixing that and the other obvious mistake
17:18:49 <MarvinPA> -KMONS:      * = place:D:27 zombie / greater mummy w:5
17:20:06 <HangedMan> man, elliptic was fine with nerfing that
17:20:31 <HangedMan> or do you mean you prefer draconian zombies to giant/turtle/dragon zombies
17:21:20 <MarvinPA> could change it to just have one greater mummy
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17:21:33 <HangedMan> that is uh
17:21:42 <HangedMan> very, very difficult
17:21:43 <MarvinPA> since "completely meaningless thing / greater mummy" is sort of silly
17:22:00 <HangedMan> well I thought that was the point of randomization
17:22:07 <HangedMan> or at least this one's
17:22:33 <MarvinPA> well when randomisation is the difference between say, zero and three greater mummies
17:22:38 <MarvinPA> then maybe that's taking it a bit too far
17:22:42 <HangedMan> hehehe
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17:23:06 <HangedMan> I kind of have like zero idea how to work with the box_glyph nonsense though
17:23:11 <MarvinPA> okay so uh
17:23:13 <HangedMan> short of some ugly hacks
17:23:30 <ChrisOelmueller> and if HangedMan calls them ugly you really don't want to see these
17:23:34 <HangedMan> admittedly the vault is all one ugly hack
17:23:54 <MarvinPA> well, can it do "nsubst * = 1:x / *:y"
17:23:57 <MarvinPA> after all the other substs?
17:24:02 <Cheibriados> 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2378-gfdb69f5: Add blackcustard's patch in Mantis 6445 to prevent allies from tormenting you. 10(11 minutes ago, 4 files, 28+ 5-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdb69f5298dc
17:24:02 <Cheibriados> 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2379-g9ed9f95: Add formatting fixes. 10(9 minutes ago, 2 files, 11+ 13-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ed9f95a66e4
17:24:02 <Cheibriados> 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2380-gd20a730: Fix off-by-one error in Kiku piety breakpoint check. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d20a730b9f7f
17:24:21 <MarvinPA> where x is greater mummy and both have the same loot
17:25:28 <HangedMan> it takes me way too long
17:25:35 <HangedMan> to think of a spare glyph in this vault
17:25:41 <MarvinPA> haha yeah that is what i am looking for now
17:25:59 <MarvinPA> let's go with Q
17:26:03 <MarvinPA> oh nope
17:26:14 <MarvinPA> ah, V W are free! i think
17:26:21 <HangedMan> use z
17:26:31 <HangedMan> then it's not default another thing and is slightly less ugly
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17:27:28 <MarvinPA> i suppose an easier solution would be to let the greater mummy sometimes replace the ancient lich
17:27:41 <MarvinPA> maybe that's better
17:27:45 <HangedMan> probably
17:27:54 <HangedMan> less making a bad thing worse
17:28:16 <HangedMan> and the ancient lich is already overlap with zonguldrok
17:29:01 <HangedMan> although I did just get said nsubst for greater mummy working
17:29:11 <HangedMan> should defer to an expert
17:29:46 <MarvinPA> i think the patch changes + changing ancient lich to ancient lich / greater mummy is probably good
17:29:59 <HangedMan> fine enough then
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17:32:19 <MarvinPA> "weaken stairs"
17:32:21 <MarvinPA> good comment
17:33:13 <HangedMan> a vault containing all stairs is strong
17:33:15 <HangedMan> duh
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17:33:37 <HangedMan> whoops
17:33:58 <HangedMan> I left the plans for my vaults that would take more effort and thought at the bottom of the uploaded .txt, even though that's not in the patch
17:34:09 <Cheibriados> 03ontoclasm 07* 0.12-a0-2381-ge8f008a: Revert changes to floor_pebble_white. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8f008ab9247
17:34:13 <HangedMan> oh well secret mantis easter eggs
17:34:17 <MarvinPA> oh that was confusing me a bit, yeah
17:35:57 <Zannick> stairs are OP
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17:51:43 <MarvinPA> HangedMan:     e.chance("99%")
17:51:45 <MarvinPA> :P
17:51:56 <HangedMan> "whoops"
17:52:35 <HangedMan> proper chance is apparently 5% or something
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18:07:33 <eeviac> what section of code handles unique generation? I want to figure out the chance tiamat is generated in any given game
18:07:47 <HangedMan> dat/des/builder/uniques.des
18:07:57 <HangedMan> except not really
18:08:19 <faze> eeviac: probably mon-place.cc
18:08:27 <faze> git grep "MONS_TIAMAT" will show you the way
18:09:35 <eeviac> isn't there a way to grep from irc
18:09:36 <eeviac> I forget
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18:10:22 <Zannick> P(tiamat generated on z:1)*P(player makes it to z:1) + P(not on z:1)*P(on z:2)*P(player makes it to z:2) ...
18:11:15 <Zannick> you may be thinking of Cheibriados grepping git logs, which is different from grepping code
18:11:16 <HangedMan> making it to zot:1 mmmmm
18:11:52 <eeviac> hm mon-place only covers her band size
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18:24:24 <blackcustard> eeviac: nethack's rodney can grep from irc and link to the relevant nethackwiki page; is that what you're thinking of?
18:24:52 <eeviac> I don't think so, I never spent time in that irc channel
18:25:50 <MarvinPA> you can do !source whatever but that just gets the first result, i think
18:26:03 <MarvinPA> and i forget if it's multiple versions out of date or not
18:26:37 <ChrisOelmueller> it also uses semi-random pastebins instead of actually linking to gdo
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18:30:24 <alefury> eeviac: uniques are placed via vaults, and vault placement chances are pretty much impossible to exactly determine
18:30:48 <eeviac> all uniques?
18:31:00 <alefury> i think so
18:31:10 <alefury> hangedman mentioned the file
18:31:14 <alefury> uniques.des
18:31:24 <alefury> some uniques are also placed in other vaults
18:32:19 <alefury> the chance for the uniques vaults to place might actually be possible to calculate because the vaults are 1x1, so no issues with vetos etc
18:32:37 <alefury> but you would have to dig through the level builder code, good luck with that
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19:03:11 <DracoOmega> Well, that's a little odd. Now that I'm back at this, I notice that a bunch of spells seem to inexplicably not use the 'new' targetters
19:03:20 <DracoOmega> Like stone arrow, iron shot, poison arrow, probably others....
19:03:54 <DracoOmega> Is there any possible valid reason for this that I am overlooking?
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19:05:05 <Cheibriados> Killed Lamia on Snake:3 and Jorgrun on Dungeon level 17 but my morgue says different (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6685) by Sphara
19:06:20 <|amethyst> DracoOmega:  because the old targetter wasn't bad enough for those spells to necessitate it
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19:06:46 <|amethyst> DracoOmega:  Grunt and I mostly changed the things where the normal targetter was just wrong (including things like bouncing off crystal)
19:06:49 <DracoOmega> Well, throw flame/frost and such have the new one and they're similar
19:06:51 <DracoOmega> Oh, crystal
19:07:14 <MarvinPA> is 6685 probably caused by the save compat thing?
19:07:16 <|amethyst> that said, go for it
19:07:17 <DracoOmega> Is there any reason it shouldn't use it now though?
19:07:26 <|amethyst> DracoOmega:  no reason at all
19:07:35 <DracoOmega> Okay
19:07:40 <|amethyst> hell, throwing stuff could probably use the new targetter :)
19:08:05 <DracoOmega> Heh
19:08:06 <HangedMan> what targetting would chaos show
19:08:13 <ChrisOelmueller> indeed
19:08:16 <HangedMan> considering random bounces
19:08:19 <ChrisOelmueller> and does it still crash
19:08:29 <MarvinPA> sounds like it could've been, jorgrun turned into lamia and lamia turned into a fulminant prism iirc
19:08:30 <|amethyst> HangedMan:  one random bounce each time you move the cursor
19:08:36 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller:  it does AFAIK
19:08:36 <HangedMan> hehehehehe
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19:11:23 <DracoOmega> "Lamia turned into a fulminant prism" Hehe
19:13:51 <MarvinPA> oh actually i think fulminant prisms turned into lamia
19:13:53 <MarvinPA> which is even better
19:14:04 <DracoOmega> Hahahaha
19:14:04 <ChrisOelmueller> mmm
19:14:09 <DracoOmega> That would have been amazing
19:14:15 <DracoOmega> "3 Lamia come into view!"
19:14:43 <|amethyst> FR: Guardian Serpent Egg spell
19:16:31 <ontoclasm> bee prism
19:16:43 <ontoclasm> after two turns, it explodes in a 2-radius circle of bees
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19:17:20 <simmarine> maybe a spider trap that could work like that, instead of the basket one
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19:23:43 <DracoOmega> Hmmm... another thing that perhaps the targetters should indicate is how cold/fire spells will have their range shortened by clouds of the opposite element
19:23:55 <DracoOmega> Though that is not something I am going to tackle just now
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19:27:06 <HangedMan> hi evilmike
19:27:15 <evilmike> hello
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19:27:49 <HangedMan> I've got giant vault patches sitting about on mantis and am twiddling my thumbs
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19:28:24 <|amethyst> HangedMan is someone else we should give commit access to
19:28:38 <HangedMan> ha ha ha not for ages I am the worst git person
19:29:13 <evilmike> dracomega for crawl dev president 2013
19:29:19 <DracoOmega> :)
19:29:22 <HangedMan> that I will agree with though
19:31:03 <Sizzell> eeviac (L12 DrBe) ASSERT(feat > DNGN_UNSEEN) in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 571 failed. (Abyss:1)
19:31:09 <eeviac> ??
19:31:49 <Sizzell> eeviac (L12 DrBe) ASSERT(monster_by_mid(m->mid) == m) in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 455 failed. (Abyss:1)
19:31:56 <eeviac> :|
19:31:57 <evilmike> has there been any new stuff on mumra's hyperlayout? I've seen some of the stuff he's done with that and its so cool
19:32:17 <Sizzell> eeviac (L12 DrBe) ASSERT(monster_by_mid(m->mid) == m) in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 455 failed. (Abyss:1)
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19:32:34 <eeviac> newabyss is hard
19:32:49 <|amethyst> DracoOmega has 94 commits currently, plus something like four more attributed to him but with other authors
19:32:59 <HangedMan> he's made example layouts for snake and crypt, and when I said that the layout_(chaotic_)cities should have special room subvaulting he said he's going to replace the layout instead
19:33:03 <HangedMan> erm, mumra
19:33:35 <HangedMan> also he said off-hand he could combine hyperlayouts together randomly for a floor and that would be an amazing potential pan layout gimmick
19:34:27 <evilmike> who was the last person to join? bh, right?
19:34:41 <DracoOmega> Abyss seems so bug prone... =/
19:35:23 <|amethyst> evilmike:  yes
19:35:57 <|amethyst> me, Grunt, ontoclasm, frogbotherer, bh
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20:12:12 * SamB wonders if some people are unaware of the fact that author and committer can be different?
20:13:30 <evilmike> stuff gets done quicker if it's the same person. if something goes wrong, "yell at them and revert" seems to have worked in the past :P
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20:18:08 <kilobyte> I've seen three types of project management: 1. discuss the hell out of it, get it through multiple votes, put into "to code" pile, years later maybe actually code it; 2. require proposals to come with code, discuss heavily before merging; 3. apply any shit then revert
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20:35:59 <Cheibriados> Various fixes (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6686) by DracoOmega
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21:01:19 <Cheibriados> 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2383-gd41e653: Add formatting fixes. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d41e653ecefc
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21:36:44 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07* 0.12-a0-2384-gdb83861: Prevent monsters from using friendly beams if something is blocking their target 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=db8386170732
21:36:44 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07* 0.12-a0-2385-g0d22511: Properly end tracing of AUTOMATIC_HIT bolts when they affect an actor 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d2251112725
21:36:44 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07* 0.12-a0-2386-gbfb99a5: Fix dazzling spray sometimes hitting the primary target twice 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfb99a595339
21:36:44 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07* 0.12-a0-2387-gcd0ae9a: Don't leak info about invisible creatures via AUTOMATIC_HIT targetters 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd0ae9a49d38
21:36:44 <Cheibriados> 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2388-gaf024b0: Add formatting fixes. 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 3-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=af024b0d03c2
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21:51:55 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07* 0.12-a0-2389-g3b0123d: Refactor beam targetter code, make more spells use it 10(2 hours ago, 5 files, 47+ 32-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b0123d7917a
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21:57:00 <Cheibriados> 03HangedMan 07* 0.12-a0-2390-g0a212af: Pile of many miscellaneous little vault edits. 10(3 hours ago, 13 files, 1084+ 1109-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a212af87164
21:57:00 <Cheibriados> 03Grunt 07* 0.12-a0-2391-ga17fa73: A basic description for the tengu conjurer. 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a17fa734eb8b
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22:06:25 <Gretell> Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2383-gd41e653
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22:44:58 <st_> this is a pretty good meatlord desc imo
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22:45:40 <TenOfSwords> ??
22:46:00 <st_> the one I'm writing right now
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22:46:47 <TenOfSwords> oh
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22:47:25 <kilobyte> do we have a meat texture somewhere?  Like those used on flesh golems.
22:47:36 <DracoOmega> By the way, renamed starcursed masses should give proper messages now! :P
22:48:01 <kilobyte> there's code for automatic generation of tiles, it might be good enough for something makeshift
22:48:03 <st_> it's too late for any major changes to monsters
22:48:16 <DracoOmega> I suspected so, but just saying
22:48:28 <DracoOmega> (I didn't know if you had been using them DESPITE the message issues or not, anyway)
22:52:12 <evilmike> get one that looks like meat boy
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22:54:53 <|amethyst> If anyone has a meat texture, it's probably Mu
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23:11:41 <Henzell> blazinghand the Faith Healer (L19 HOHe) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1334 failed on turn 50513. (Abyss:1)
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