00:00:11 -!- rwbarton has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:01:04 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2283-g14445a6 (34) 00:01:09 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2283-g14445a6 (34) 00:08:31 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2283-g14445a6 00:11:43 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:24:38 -!- kekekela_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:32:08 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:48:40 hm 00:48:41 Zaba: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:48:44 !messages 00:48:44 (1/1) HangedMan said (6h 3m 38s ago): would a "." instead of "@" and the transparent tag for the vault equate to old doors for special_rooms for the purposes of level connectivity? 00:48:50 hangedman, no, it wouldn't 00:49:54 hangedman, @ and + are equivalent for the purposes of connectivity. Another way to achieve the same would be . and mini_float, but that's unnecessary here. 00:59:05 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:57 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:34 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 01:11:03 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:12:45 -!- Nickajeglin has quit [] 01:16:41 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:18:14 -!- kittykai has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:23:59 -!- ruwin has quit [] 01:38:10 hangedman / Grunt / anyone interested in layouts: http://pbrd.co/11NX6Cc 01:40:07 these are a whole loads of experiments with the Snake code I was working on but some of them might work well for other branches (tar? geh? forest??? i dunno...) 01:40:48 (the most recent stuff is at the top) 01:46:43 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:48:10 -!- home has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:52:47 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:53:24 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 01:58:35 -!- Veraticus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:59:38 -!- Cab_ is now known as Guest83708 02:04:27 -!- Alucard__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:10:09 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:18:12 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:23:37 -!- Guest83708 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:36:17 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:53:56 -!- shirish has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:55:07 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 02:57:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:19 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 03:02:41 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:05:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:09:44 -!- Wehk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:13:41 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:20:00 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:34 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: THE HULK NEVER STOPS BEING THE HULK, BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO PROGRAM.] 03:43:46 -!- Iodine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:51:46 -!- eb has quit [] 03:55:08 can someone commit the battlesphere fixes on mantis? 03:55:54 its really not good that it cant be miscast 04:05:41 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:27:05 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:41:03 -!- substitute has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:43:49 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:44:28 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:46:55 -!- Nightmare is now known as Guest41727 04:48:15 -!- eXcel has quit [Client Quit] 04:51:02 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:51:50 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:53:41 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 05:05:53 -!- Eurtek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:07:10 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 05:15:27 -!- NekoRex has quit [Quit: "All the people will look up and shout 'Save us!', and I'll look down and whisper... 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My brain just hit a bad sector] 11:06:41 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:06:42 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:07:45 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:09:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28:34 -!- kittykai has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:31:14 -!- substitute has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:33:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:37:06 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:38:00 what's the comma good for? 11:38:09 (Z) a naga zombie (friendly), wielding a glowing trident 11:38:14 (Z) a naga zombie (friendly) wearing a robe 11:38:20 (Z) a naga zombie (friendly), wielding a hand axe and wearing a robe 11:38:34 (Z) a naga zombie (friendly) 11:38:39 --- 11:39:49 is the ", wielding..." used sometimes and then the comma is required? 11:49:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:50:30 <|amethyst> weird... the comma is only added for DESC_FULL 11:51:06 <|amethyst> I'd prefer for the second instance to be "(Z) a naga zombie (friendly), wearing a robe" 11:51:42 <|amethyst> But I have been accused of overpunctuation at times, so... 11:53:40 does anyone have the high-level overview of how webtiles interfaces with tornado? is tornado making local socket calls to a crawl process or something? 11:59:10 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:46 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:07:12 <|amethyst> Eronarn: AIUI ws_handler.py handles the web side of thing, using connection.py to connect to crawl's listening socket 12:07:15 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:17 <|amethyst> s/thing/things/ 12:08:35 |amethyst: okay, thanks. i'm thinking of doing something similar with my own game 12:08:58 <|amethyst> you definitely want to talk to edlothiol for more details :) 12:17:04 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18:38 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:35 -!- Jolly has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:20:51 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:21:07 -!- freefall has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25:55 -!- mumra_ is now known as mumra 12:31:14 -!- vidiny has quit [Quit: [19:23] don't they have refill machines in ikea [19:24] bet those muricans took their vases to those straight away after paying] 12:33:13 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:01 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:41:40 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:20 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:02:38 can someone with commit rights revert 670f9d77e54050bf5ea21e3eeca464725adf687d and 6771512bb755939f6e557acf42217ab6a9a522ce 13:02:48 all-rock V:$ :( 13:02:51 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:35 <|amethyst> mumra: it's only needed on V:$ though, right? 13:03:38 although the switch only needs to apply to depth 5 13:03:39 yep 13:07:51 -!- y2s82 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:11:03 <|amethyst> mumra: so 1/10 of green crystal, else metal? 13:17:36 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:00 |amethyst: sorry, took phone call 13:20:04 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:20:36 -!- ark__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:38 -!- morphy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:25:07 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-2294-g06cfd5e: Make Leda's Liquefaction Hexes/Earth, give it to AM. 10(28 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=06cfd5e257cf 13:25:07 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-2295-g5f3a817: Restore Vaults:5 material substitution (mumra). 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 13+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f3a817a537f 13:25:24 <|amethyst> elliptic: I didn't remove anything from the book yet 13:25:49 I hear MarvinPA is good at removing things 13:26:00 <|amethyst> elliptic: Mass Confusion only appears in one other book (Control) so I'm wary of removing it 13:26:19 does anyone actually use inner flame on AM 13:26:46 <|amethyst> with enslavement maybe 13:26:49 <|amethyst> maybe 13:27:16 admittedly it would be nice if inner flame was a spell people wanted to use instead 13:27:43 <|amethyst> make you immune to your own inner flame? but that would need more tracking I think 13:28:00 <|amethyst> and is kind of hard to justify 13:28:36 mass confusion could go in dreams instead of intoxication maybe 13:28:43 that would be good because then cerebov's sword could get it 13:28:46 without MarvinPA having to do any more work 13:28:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:29:01 and then he would finally make it a triple sword! 13:29:20 mass confusion in dreams sounds fine to me 13:29:30 <|amethyst> okay, I'll do it 13:29:37 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:30:08 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 13:31:56 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:19 mass confusion at least has a use case for AM 13:32:29 inner flame is just wtf 13:32:53 but perhaps higher-level spell balance and such 13:33:02 can we remove both :P 13:34:09 <|amethyst> maybe replace inner flame with regular confusion? 13:34:33 <|amethyst> then it might be too similar to the En book though 13:34:58 -!- airwaveraid has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:35:55 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:36:49 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:40 -!- AlcariTheMad has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:38:58 Inner flame is nice if you're faster than the things you're shooting at 13:39:05 But that's a relatively small number of people 13:39:12 CeAM, clearly. 13:39:13 leda's doesn't really help that 13:39:13 <_< 13:39:20 (not yet??) 13:39:32 feam 13:39:38 if only 13:39:59 <|amethyst> I'll go ahead and commit this, but if someone figures out something better to do with the AM book (and it sounds like there are ideas), feel free to revert 13:40:11 It's just that inner flame is so terribly bad/annoying if you fail to kill your target by the time it reaches melee range 13:40:22 And it lasts forever, so you kite for like 50 turns so that it won't blow up on you 13:40:58 <|amethyst> someone suggested making it a toggle, but that's kind of hard to communicate to the player, and having to spend another 3 MP to keep your bomb from killing you is kind of ugh 13:41:07 Yes, that is also kind of ugh 13:42:39 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:20 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-2296-gda72376: Remove Mass Confusion from AM book, chain shift. 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=da7237664111 13:47:10 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:53:32 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Quit: I've killed the senator.] 13:56:16 Speaking of Leda's - prevent it from slowing the caster or no? 13:56:21 Right now nobody uses it for that reason. 13:56:28 yes 13:56:33 yes 13:56:36 yes 13:56:40 leda's buff is a buff for humanity 13:56:41 That's pretty much what I expected to hear :b 13:57:09 uh, why would you prevent it from slowing the caster? then people just use it to kite 13:57:28 What exactly is the purpose of Leda's right now, then? 13:57:48 -!- domiryuu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:58:08 ??ledas liquefaction[3] 13:58:08 ledas liquefaction[3/3]: it's really a very similar spell to haste, except that it messes up your melee and doesn't speed up your movement 13:58:10 it's like haste but you have to stand still 13:58:13 and not use melee attacks 13:58:17 yes 13:58:21 and only fight non-flying things 13:58:34 its like haste but you have to worship chei 13:59:10 anyway it is specifically not supposed to let you run away from stuff 13:59:16 and this is basically the only interesting thing about it 13:59:26 how about the melee 13:59:28 that and the halo 13:59:36 so if you really want to buff it (not sure this is at all necessary now that it is single-school) do something els 13:59:37 e 13:59:51 <|amethyst> it's not single-school anymore 13:59:57 well it's 13:59:57 oh right 13:59:58 heh 13:59:59 yeah 14:00:05 clearly make it pure hexes 14:00:07 well it is a better school :P 14:00:17 rip leda's, op for a couple of days 14:00:23 nerfed to AMblivion 14:00:26 and in a better book, since it doesn't interfere with ranged combat 14:00:36 I imagine it is quite good in the AM book 14:01:05 if i ever played ranged combat characters i would definitely use it on them, yeah 14:01:29 it would be good for shooting... cerebov i guess? 14:01:44 it is unresistable slow against cerebov, yes 14:02:01 what about a spell that slows you and also everything else in the game 14:02:05 call it relativity 14:02:17 elliott: but the point is that leda's doesn't actually "slow" the caster 14:02:22 it just slows your movement 14:02:30 yes i know 14:02:41 (what about monster-player consistency?!?!?!?!?!) 14:02:44 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:02:57 yes I know, the spell completely ignores monster-player consistency 14:03:23 clearly attack spells should hurt you too for the most consistency 14:04:08 changing it so that it doesn't slow non-movement monster actions and then rebalancing it somehow would be nice probably 14:04:17 -!- airwaveraid has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:08:39 -!- PsyMar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:22:10 <|amethyst> should kb_entry_jail use a deep dwarf rather than a generic dwarf? 14:23:04 no 14:23:10 not in a hundred years 14:23:14 >:( 14:23:32 -!- AirwaveRaid has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25:46 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:30:38 dire dwarf 14:30:50 Aren't those just humans? 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As a matter of fact it's all dark. The only thing that makes it look light is the sun.] 15:48:12 omg, abyss in 0.11 is more annoying than before 15:48:29 -!- ponies_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:48:29 if that was the goal? but changing on every step.. omg 15:48:34 good thing we changed it over again in the next version! 15:48:45 happy to hear that 15:49:05 apparently people found it annoying, in 0.12 it's deadly instead 15:49:12 always happy to help players enjoy crawl 15:49:30 jaja 15:51:46 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:54:45 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 15:54:56 Well, it didn't change in 0.11 from 0.10, did it? 15:55:15 started having hangedman vaults, a fate worse than death 15:55:22 Or was the original morphing abyss only added in 0.11? 15:57:41 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:57:41 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:13 -!- AirwaveRaid has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:23 |amethyst: that vault shows genuses, but you're probably right. It'd require adding two extra elves. 16:01:40 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:03:25 Napkin: why not just play trunk? 16:04:11 <|amethyst> mumra_: "<+Napkin> i had my share of broken trunk games.. considering how seldomly i play nowadays, i stick to stable" 16:04:45 exactly 16:04:50 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I was thinking leave the elf as it is, representing all three player species... but since there is only one extant dwarf species... 16:05:09 but since you're complaining about broken stable versions anyway what's the difference ... ;) 16:05:56 nah, i'm reporting bugs, ok, and giving opinion sometimes ;) 16:08:27 :) well you could be reporting bugs in trunk that haven't already been fixed, just saying .... 16:09:34 yes, i understand 16:10:14 but actually most things i did report hadn't been fixed in trunk either 16:11:36 also, playing trunk means too much discussing ;) especially on new features.. 16:11:40 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:12:40 <|amethyst> I have a feeling I'm about to make some people angry 16:12:41 ahh well that's a different matter :) 16:13:18 |amethyst goads it on! It goes berserk! 16:13:33 -!- anidude has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:13:50 |amethyst: so please stop doing it 16:13:57 |amethyst: youre removing elves? 16:14:52 oh, jiyva 16:14:58 <|amethyst> :) 16:15:03 chei is slow :/ 16:15:31 <|amethyst> I guess that should be backported too 16:15:37 oh nice 16:15:38 good bug 16:15:55 yeah, sounds cool 16:18:04 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-2297-g2043ff6: Fix broken Jiyva bonuses for slurping large stacks (#6655). 10(9 minutes ago, 3 files, 7+ 4-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2043ff63932f 16:18:04 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.11 16:18:06 is this that badmantis one 16:18:08 that turned out to actually be true 16:18:11 right 16:18:15 <|amethyst> elliott: yup 16:18:22 this explains why jiyva was so stupidly good in zigsprint I guess 16:18:36 ChrisOelmueller: remember when like 5 darts of dispersal gave crazy hp when I was killing cerebov on chris 16:18:39 ruined forever :( 16:18:53 ^^ trunk 16:19:20 no, stable :P 16:19:23 best recent trunk bug imo: battlesphere cant be miscast 16:19:48 and a bunch of tools on tavern raving about how great it is and that you can start casting it on D:3 and its great 16:19:56 <|amethyst> Napkin: the bug's been around forever, and is now fixed in stable too 16:20:38 gj :) 16:21:04 -!- AirwaveRaid has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:21:18 hm, somehow these things never get reported 16:21:29 just shows that we take good things for granted i guess :) 16:22:14 <|amethyst> Napkin: btw, is there anything you can do (short of removing and re-uploading) about the filenames in https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6656 ? 16:23:12 <|amethyst> TomatoRapist[23].png in particular 16:23:41 -!- shockwave has quit [] 16:25:09 -!- Elkan has quit [Quit: Quitte] 16:25:31 -!- Abominae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:25:36 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:26:33 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:26:48 no, had to re-upload 16:27:11 one file lost, though, i did a clever renaming to Tomato5.png twice :-$ 16:27:24 at least the latest version was the one that survived 16:28:06 <|amethyst> thanks, should I leave a note for Bloax? 16:28:32 sure 16:31:39 -!- odiv has quit [Client Quit] 16:31:58 -!- odiv_ is now known as odiv 16:32:00 <|amethyst> done 16:32:07 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:32:54 thanks 16:33:09 That is an entirely new form of badmantis >:( 16:34:13 thanks also 16:38:22 <|amethyst> BTW, #6648 needs attention from someone with Windows... I was not able to reproduce it in Linux 16:38:33 <|amethyst> (garbled e'x'amine text) 16:40:05 <|amethyst> unfortunately there's no valgrind for Windows, but maybe electric-fence-win32 could be useful 16:47:21 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:47:31 so the really important question #6648 raises is 16:47:33 did the spell dispel undead get removed? 16:47:35 why do monsters wear rings of hunger 16:48:16 |amethyst: I can attest that I see the same thing sometimes 16:48:29 I seem to recall noticing it for Wiglaf pretty often, even 16:48:34 dispel undead was just moved out of necromancy 16:48:35 But that may be confirmation bias? 16:48:38 and put into death 16:48:47 and made level 5 16:49:09 is book of death special in a way? just wondering that i haven't found dispel undead yet 16:49:14 |amethyst: it reproduces for me 16:49:15 i don't see it when i load that save, but i'm in 0.12 debug mode 16:49:25 MarvinPA: i just installed 11.2 and it reproduces 16:49:29 -!- Pthing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49:40 the garbled text is different every time i cursor over the knight again 16:50:10 i'll checkout 0.11 and try then 16:53:50 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:54:04 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 16:54:43 Napkin: it's not special, but it is just a single book... most spells are in multiple books, so dispel undead is definitely rarer than average (unless you worship Kiku, who gifts it) 16:56:06 i see 16:56:19 found like a million books, just not that one. rng probably 16:56:19 or sif on that note 16:56:33 wondering, vehumet isn't too generous on gifting books lately 16:56:38 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:56:52 that's also by design that he only gifts 4-5 books, right? 16:57:07 he's not gifting any books in trunk 16:57:30 spells now, i partly read 16:57:42 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:57:44 Napkin: well, in pre-trunk Vehumet always gifts the same 6 books, except that he skips books if you've already found them 16:57:53 in trunk his gifts are completely different 16:57:54 but about 0.11, vehumet isn't too generous on gifting books. by design? 16:58:03 yeah, vehumet isn't sif 16:58:08 ah, ok 16:58:12 -!- scorchgeek has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:58:14 -!- noppa354 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:00:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:15 <|amethyst> not generous, but you know exactly what you're going to get, and in what order, and can plan for it 17:00:20 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:00:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:01:24 -!- enne has joined ##crawl-dev 17:02:18 <|amethyst> which is part of the reason Veh was changed in trunk and Kiku in 0.11 17:02:23 i can't repro that bug in 0.11 tiles 17:02:34 non-debug build 17:02:38 -!- clinew has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:02:39 what happened to kiku in 0.11? 17:02:48 Randbooks! 17:02:49 hi enne, btw! :) 17:02:56 ...I think that was a 0.11 change. 17:02:58 ??kiku randbooks 17:02:59 kiku randbook[1/2]: First book: One of (Pain, Animate Skeleton); two of (Corpse Rot, Sublimation of Blood, Lethal Infusion); one of (Regeneration, Vampiric Draining); Control Undead. (But you will never get a spell you can't cast due to your species.) 17:03:07 <|amethyst> Napkin: Kiku now gifts two random books instead of all the necromancy books 17:03:09 poor kiku gets it on every new version, huh? 17:03:28 <|amethyst> being one of the best gods will do that to you :) 17:03:41 Hey, Napkin. :) 17:03:47 i don't think he is anymore 17:04:07 (Kiku sneers at your puny pronouns.) 17:04:13 also, removing dispel undead made it a lot more difficult 17:04:13 <|amethyst> then it worked, I guess :) 17:04:28 ??kiku randbook[2 17:04:29 kiku randbook[2/2]: Second book: One of (Animate Dead, Twisted Resurrection); one of (Agony, Excruciating Wounds); one of (Bolt of Draining, Simulacrum, Death Channel); Dispel Undead; and then one more of these possible spells that you didn't get already. 17:04:32 DU was not removed 17:04:33 <|amethyst> you are guaranteed to get both Control and Dispel as a Kiku worshipper 17:04:43 <|amethyst> assuming you live long enough, of course 17:04:51 ah, good! 17:05:04 hate when you make stuff useless ;-P 17:05:49 <|amethyst> also, at least two, possibly three, corpse-using spells 17:06:50 reminds me, someone reported a bug about very strong player ghosts ending up in the wrong dungeon level 17:07:42 Fleurka had that recently, too. a ghost in D3.. after finishing lair and up to d27 she went there again, and the ghost was still considered "extreme dangerous" (name in red) 17:07:55 unless someone did that on purpose, of course... 17:08:36 03elliptic 07* 0.12-a0-2298-g5bd2b16: Vehumet spell gifting changes. 10(25 minutes ago, 10 files, 166+ 98-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bd2b1682e5e 17:08:38 killed on the orb run? 17:08:41 but the person that reported was playing local games, so it was surely not done on purpose 17:09:03 possibly, that's what i thought, jilles - until i read the bug report 17:09:30 afair there should be code in place too preventing orb run ghosts and the like 17:09:43 ChrisOelmueller: there isn't any such code 17:09:57 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:10:04 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 17:10:10 maybe there should? 17:10:17 <|amethyst> I saw the report, but wasn't able to figure out how it happened 17:10:50 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10:57 there's presumably actually a bug unless this person who reported it was using that bones sharing thing 17:11:09 and forgot to mention that :P 17:11:10 <|amethyst> elliptic: it was their own character 17:11:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:11:43 well, I'd imagine a buggy bones sharing program could conceivably corrupt existing bones if it is doing bad things 17:11:43 <|amethyst> #6632 17:11:48 yeah 17:12:19 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Changing host] 17:12:22 <|amethyst> it would have to have renamed the file, which I guess would be possible 17:12:57 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: -a-] 17:14:12 more likely there's some bug 17:15:52 Hunkiof 17:16:05 whoops wrong channel 17:21:39 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:21:51 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 17:22:41 -!- magistern has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 17:24:07 <|amethyst> elliptic: the only thing I can figure that would make that happen is you.depth being incorrect when load_ghost is called... but then the whole level should be D:16 not D:3 17:25:20 <|amethyst> I guess maybe the old ghost was saved in two different places 17:28:52 -!- maha has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 18.0.2/20130201065344]] 17:29:50 -!- axlexk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:33:54 03ontoclasm 07* 0.12-a0-2299-gc3dd0fc: Vault guard edit 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3dd0fc08ad8 17:33:54 03ontoclasm 07* 0.12-a0-2300-g0b2718a: Distinct rock/stone glass tiles 10(5 minutes ago, 10 files, 63+ 17-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b2718a76c45 17:38:21 tilereg-mem.cc: In member function 'virtual void MemoriseRegion::update()': 17:38:21 tilereg-mem.cc:151: error: 'class player' has no member named 'vehumet_gift' 17:38:55 good job elliptic 17:38:59 you broke tiles 17:39:08 looks like somebody removed the silly function i was stealing from 17:39:13 oh right, need to check tiles compilation too 17:39:17 will fix that 17:39:22 okay 17:39:23 actually this one is probably my fault 17:39:28 but I blame elliptic 17:39:30 that dirty parrow-special-caser 17:39:35 i can fix it, i just need to know what to call to find the name of the gift 17:39:38 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:39:43 there is no gift singular now 17:39:46 aha 17:39:47 so it's not quite so simple 17:39:53 i'll leave it to you then 17:39:56 vehumet_is_offering(spell) 17:40:10 oh, that's easy then 17:40:25 if by "you" you mean "youlliptic" then I concur! 17:40:59 but yeah, just changing spell == you.vehumet_gift to vehumet_is_offering(spell) should fix this 17:41:04 you can do this or I can :) 17:41:16 i'll do it 17:42:16 bh: hi! did you get my message 17:42:37 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Kicked by KickServ] 17:43:38 !messages 17:43:38 (1/3) mumra said (1d 10h 7m 4s ago): I have some questions about ProceduralSample. Basically I want to generate a layout in Lua (so there will be a map_def and a vault_placement) but then use it as an Abyss sample instead of directly placing it on the grid. 17:43:45 !messages 17:43:45 (1/2) mumra said (1d 10h 6m 57s ago): I have half an idea how to do this but I'm not sure the best way to go about integrating it in _abyss_grid and occasionally regenerate the layout so could use some advice. 17:43:50 !messages 17:43:51 (1/1) mumra said (1d 10h 5m 22s ago): (Or am I going about this the wrong way and is it already possible to place a vault so it dissolves in and dissolves out again like other abyssal features?) 17:44:07 mumra: that's a super cool idea. I actually don't know anything about lua :) 17:46:18 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:46:24 what do you need to know? 17:46:43 -!- morphy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:47:26 -!- Guest41727 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:49:04 03ontoclasm 07* 0.12-a0-2301-g9399400: Fix tiles compilation 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=939940011721 17:49:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:49:36 well, the lua part is fine and i know how to get the map_def and vault_placement. the thing is really when/where to do this 17:50:02 the other ProceduralSamples are initialised when the game starts, right? 17:51:17 -!- morphy has quit [Client Quit] 17:51:34 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53:31 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:54:23 ah. Yeah, the rest are static. 17:55:33 -!- magistern has quit [Client Quit] 17:58:39 i'd need to run the lua either when the player enters abyss or even only when that particular ProceduralSample is needed 18:01:00 hmm, and persist the map in the save file which is trickier 18:02:12 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:03:24 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 18:04:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:04:26 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 18:04:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:05:16 maybe i could generate a fake dungeon branch with the same # of levels as abyss... 18:05:41 yuck :) 18:06:06 mumra_: I was thinking of making a tree of abyss features, like a kd-tree, and storing that 18:06:44 that way you can statically initialize the tree, populate it when the player enters the abyss, and delete all the nodes when they leave 18:07:45 yeah, that could work. 18:08:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:08:58 i was thinking that the state should be retained between trips and on different abyss levels 18:09:12 but i guess everything is usually completely different every time you go back anyway 18:09:14 why bother? The abyss is huge. You're never going to find it again 18:09:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:10:24 It has something like 2^96 squares. That's like minecraft big 18:10:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:10:38 nice 18:11:04 the layout would have to be placed over the player's coords when it's generated then, i guess this already happens with vaults 18:11:28 speaking of which are there any even slight ideas why abyss banishment can place players inside vaults 18:11:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:11:44 inside the walls of vaults 18:11:52 HangedMan: maybe the vaults are placed after the player? 18:12:11 probably 18:12:34 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:14:25 bh: is there a function that runs when the player arrives in abyss or goes to a new level of it? 18:14:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14:54 mumra_: everything goes through down_stairs, I believe 18:15:01 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:15:04 there's even a comment in banishment along the lines of "hehehe" 18:17:27 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:46 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:20:18 -!- eeviac has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:50 bh: this will probably be really difficult but i've got some ideas now 18:24:48 basically i should be able to generate some awesome abyssy layouts with the code i'm working on but it's just how to get them in there properly ... 18:26:03 i'm still thinking the fake branch thing could work and actually be the simplest way (it'll also solve certain issues about actually generating the layouts as well) 18:31:07 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:21 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:35:32 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:38:37 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:39:45 mumra: whatever does the trick 18:43:56 mumra: do you understand how to use changepoints? 18:44:10 bh: no 18:44:32 we had a problem in newabyss where all the terrain got reevaluated every turn even though it probably didn't change 18:44:35 this abused the CPU 18:44:38 Travel exclusions do not consider stairs (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6657) by Roy 18:45:02 changepoint says "This feature will change no sooner than some specified depth" 18:46:07 for the most part I'm using Worley noise, so the I just look at the delta from the current voronoi cell to the nearest voronoi cell 18:46:35 If you want to make vaults that undulate over time, you just need to put a lower bound on when they could phase out 18:46:48 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:48:00 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Quit: Dain's default quit message] 18:48:01 changepoint is also an absolute value, not relative to the current depth 18:48:19 hmm 18:48:21 well the layout won' 18:48:28 won't change once it's been built 18:49:23 I thought you said in your !tell that you wanted it to fade in and out? or are you just talking about vaults that appear from the ether rather than the player stumbling upon them? 18:49:31 (well, unless i make it completely rebuild at intervals, but running the lua is an expensive operation so it shouldn't happen often) 18:49:41 if that's all you want to do, then you don't need to use any of this samplling stuff, just set the map mask to MMT_VAULT 18:50:30 bh: ah, i thought the purpose of the samples stuff was that you had one function that performed the blending, and other functions that provided geometry 18:50:51 sort of. 18:51:01 so you could drop in a new geometrical function and have it participate in the existing blending strategies 18:51:13 yeah. That's one function 18:51:38 but you can also do stuff like RiverLayout 18:51:57 -!- magistern has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 18:52:46 when you say "vaults that appear from the ether rather than the player stumbling upon them" do you mean ones that suddenly appear all at once? or can vaults already dissolve in over time? 18:53:07 mumra: they can if you make them do that :) 18:53:19 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:53:26 basically i would want the layout to morph in over time like other terrain features 18:53:44 bh: yeah of course but that would be a lot of coding and i would have to special case chei etc. etc. etc. :) 18:54:08 as in, a lot of lua coding, that would be largely duplicating the worley noise functions from c++ ... 18:55:26 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:55:49 basically i imagined the abyss as a series of mathematical layers, and then a noise function that morphs between layers over time 18:56:28 so i wanted to use a prebuilt map as one of those layers and not have to do my own morphing 18:58:10 -!- ark__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:58:32 -!- Chozo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58:55 it doesn't really morph, there's no domain transform going on 18:59:19 more like there's a selector that picks different bits and delegates to some other function in the stack 19:01:42 ok yeah by morph i really mean blend, it's just hard to find words to describe what goes on in the abyss ;) 19:01:56 I'd suggest not staring into the abyss. 19:02:15 eek 19:04:26 domain transforms could make nice effects though, distort a given layout using noise to adjust the x/y coords you pick from 19:04:41 I was hoping someone else would add them 19:07:58 it shouldn't be too hard given the noise functions are already there. the changepoints are more complex than the domain transform itself i think 19:08:49 oh definitely. Tweaking the scale is hard given that crawl is tile based. High frequency will tear the map to bits, low frequency won't even be visible 19:09:24 The best spatial transforms I know of for this is fractional brownian motion 19:09:58 -!- vidiny has quit [Quit: [19:23] don't they have refill machines in ikea [19:24] bet those muricans took their vases to those straight away after paying] 19:14:24 -!- tsn has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:14:50 even simple perlin noise is nice and predictable and inexpensive for that kind of thing 19:16:24 brownian fractional motion seems to have a lot of detail, you want something with nice big obvious features on a tile grid 19:18:03 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21:11 this page about halfway down has some really nice perlin distortions: lodev.org/cgtutor/randomnoise.html 19:21:41 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:23:14 -!- CreepingCrawled has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:24:09 brownian fractional motion would probably give a really similar effect anyway 19:25:03 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-2302-g42dd1cd: Remove ant larvae 10(12 minutes ago, 16 files, 10+ 46-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=42dd1cdaea1e 19:25:03 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-2303-gab6ac6e: Make Roxanne's blink other close irresistible 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab6ac6eaf651 19:25:04 [Patch] Special room revisions, later form buffs. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6658) by Claws 19:32:18 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:35:18 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:36:09 -!- eeviac has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 15.0/20120830123745]] 19:37:08 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:43:41 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:47:32 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:03 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:58:23 -!- morphy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:58:32 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:04:41 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:05:28 03Grunt 07* 0.12-a0-2304-g884bf95: Finer interrupt granularity for wait command (#4893). 10(10 minutes ago, 7 files, 52+ 14-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=884bf952a96f 20:15:20 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:19:37 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:20:39 03Grunt 07* 0.12-a0-2305-g07e991f: Reassign key defaults of CMD_MOVE_NOWHERE to CMD_WAIT. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=07e991f01c8c 20:21:06 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 20:24:57 -!- Nickajeglin has quit [] 20:30:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:12 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:53:30 -!- hart has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:59:16 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:59:53 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:21 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:46 -!- Beamed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:02:24 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:15:02 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:17:38 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:18:06 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:12 Ahoy, I've been mildly absent from Crawl dev for a while. 21:19:26 Hi enne! 21:19:31 I know somebody who is interested in contributing, but doesn't really know where to start, and I'm too out of touch to know where to point her. 21:19:33 (not that you have any idea who I am :b) 21:19:42 :) 21:19:54 Mostly just curious if anybody has thoughts on starter bugs or where to point somebody. 21:20:49 Well, I got my start by fixing random minor bugs that turned up on mantis; looking at the current implementables there might also be good. 21:20:54 Also, invite them to ##crawl-dev! :) 21:22:23 Yeah, definitely. 21:26:19 03Grunt 07* 0.12-a0-2306-g6c26edc: Fix number of levels in description of Vaults branch. 10(75 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c26edc71494 21:26:29 -!- noppa354 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:27:24 enne: starter bug: lava orcs aren't merged in yet 21:27:44 * Grunt gestures at Eronarn. Eronarn is devoured by a tear in reality. 21:28:25 lava orcs more like lava dorcs 21:28:46 next bug, they're not dwarves yet 21:28:53 we can build up on something here 21:28:54 -!- marcmagus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:29:10 lava dwarves make a little more sense than lava orcs, i think 21:29:26 Even Deeper Dwarvers 21:29:54 we should make a water based dwarf species 21:29:56 Fountain Dwarves 21:30:02 nicolae-: glacier dwarves 21:30:03 Haha. 21:30:03 they tunnel in ice 21:30:14 their beards are icicles 21:30:26 Can fountain dwarves grant beard wishes? 21:30:32 i'm gonna say Yes 21:30:40 glacier dwarf gelids 21:31:23 at xl13 glacier dwarves get passive freezing cloud on hit, like foul stench Ds 21:32:08 it really makes sense too, glaciers carve out the earth 21:32:37 let's make it happen, eronarn. glacier dwarves and lava orcs, together, at last. 21:32:45 the real problem with GD is no words 21:33:18 they'll find a way to cope 21:35:00 Abominable Snowdwarves 21:35:51 one time i thought about a unique Abominable Snowman that was a large abomination but with an ice theme 21:36:18 but can we make them cocytus enemies 21:36:19 abominable snowman (11X) | Spd: 6-12 | HD: 20 | HP: 69-116 | AC/EV: 0/0 | Dam: 40 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(186), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2427 | Sz: Big | Int: plant. 21:36:19 %??large abomination name:abominable_snowman col:lightcyan hd:20 21:36:46 ...I guess I can't use that colour <_< 21:36:52 abominable snowman (12X) | Spd: 6-12 | HD: 20 | HP: 69-116 | AC/EV: 0/0 | Dam: 40 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(186), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2427 | Sz: Big | Int: plant. 21:36:52 %??large abomination name:abominable_snowman col:ice hd:20 21:37:03 please don't make that 21:37:25 too late 21:37:59 something something ozocubu's refridgerator something glacier golem something 21:38:00 Grunt: if there is anything deserving the glyph 8 21:38:28 Heh. 21:39:06 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:44:05 -!- AirwaveRaid has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:47:04 is there anything that uses the glyph 6 21:47:26 Sixfirhies? 21:47:28 <___________________< 21:47:35 I keep meaning to set that in my rcfile. 21:48:32 gravity gargoyles 21:48:46 breathe gravity 21:48:55 take damage based on how much you're carrying 21:48:58 <|amethyst> does that cut your HP in half? 21:49:33 |amethyst: obviously there are three versions of it that cut varying percentages :) 21:49:39 also knockbacks 21:49:57 greater gravity gargoyle! 21:50:27 and can hit multiple times with knockback on the same breathe projectile!! 21:50:27 <|amethyst> nicolae-: Re '6', there is a comment in mon-data.h that demonspawn are "likely to become '6'" 21:50:44 ah 21:50:53 <|amethyst> nicolae-: I don't think that is actually likely 21:50:59 shame 21:51:11 monstrous demonspawn hellbinder 21:51:24 demonspawn scorcher (12@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 61-102 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, 07vault | Res: 06magic(60) | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1807 | Sp: b.fire (3d24), fireball (3d25), blink, fire storm (8d12), b.magma (3d24) | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 21:51:24 %??demonspawn scorcher 21:51:29 ds should def. be 6 21:51:35 too many on @ already 21:51:35 frozen demonspawn scorcher 21:52:05 fr: demonspawn start at 6, and gradually go from 5-1 and then &. 21:52:07 masocistic demonspawn weaponsmaster 21:59:02 -!- Dixeous has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:07 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2306-g6c26edc 22:05:52 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:44 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:07:17 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:36 -!- Vizer has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:04 bug report: meatsprint hasn't been merged yet 22:11:55 block severity bug 22:12:05 what is the idea of meatsprint 22:12:40 rRIP AND TEAR 22:13:20 nicolae-: please read the detailed introduction (incl. poetry) at the star tand all will be clear 22:13:30 BLOOD AND SOULS 22:14:00 well okay 22:14:51 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14:56 -!- Dixeous has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:16:01 -!- AirwaveRaid has quit [Quit: AirwaveRaid] 22:17:39 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:19:49 -!- ToastyP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:20:26 Grunt: imo you should merge meatsprint. 22:25:16 agreed 22:26:09 meat things may need suiting descriptions later on 22:26:30 -!- blackcustard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:27:15 decaying dogs chewing on their own skeletons, horses made of legs tied together with legs 22:28:55 only st_ can write the descriptions, sorry 22:29:10 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:40 he's going to need ideas! 22:32:30 -!- russianslayer229 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:32:56 -!- morphy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:42:23 feel free to copy the ones from MEAT ARENA 22:42:58 Meat Slave: "A pitiful wretch who long ago abandoned all hope of escaping the arena. It has covered itself in lunchmeat to hide its scent from the other occupants." 22:43:07 Meat Golem: "A lumbering construct made of a great many pieces of spoiled meat. They appear to have been stapled together." 22:43:19 Meat Worm: "This worm looks like a large stick of pepperoni. A trail of grease glistens behind it." 22:43:28 Meat Hydra: 'A hydra made from the meat of lesser beings. Each "head" is a cracked ribcage.' 22:43:41 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 22:43:48 Meat Commander: "This beefy champion wears a full set of bone armor decorated with dozens of veal medallions and bacon ribbons. A crown roast rests atop its noble brow." 22:44:01 Sauceror: "A slight figure clad in dark cloth robes. 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