00:02:24 -!- mamga has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:02:36 ok, no problem 00:03:31 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1985-g1c10021 (34) 00:04:22 -!- Crazylemon65 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:05:03 -!- Morphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:05:12 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1985-g1c10021 (34) 00:09:36 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:11:24 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:34 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:13:39 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:14:38 -!- fiyawerx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:15:43 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:08 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1985-g1c10021 00:21:12 -!- oberstein has quit [Quit: uhhh] 00:25:17 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:03 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 00:32:05 -!- iniiiii has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:55 -!- iniiiii has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:33:08 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:36:12 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 00:37:56 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:52:02 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:16 -!- purge_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:02:34 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:04:07 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:13 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:04:25 -!- Frosteey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:04:33 -!- Xiberia has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:05:02 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: earl] 01:07:04 -!- SamB_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:16 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:09:36 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:13:08 -!- web has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:31:49 Sticky Flame does not stick to a monster when Arcane Familiar fires (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6588) by cptwinky 01:33:22 I sort of hope that's a mistake somehow.... 01:33:31 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 01:34:46 Oh dear, it actually doesn't seem to be 01:34:50 That's really odd 01:47:32 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:03:16 Uploaded a fix to https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6588 02:03:50 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:05:07 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:11:29 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:11:42 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:18:05 -!- afd__ has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 02:21:08 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:22:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 02:22:08 -!- BunnehWyld has quit [Quit: Bye!] 02:28:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:33:29 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:35:22 DracoOmega: I noticed the familiar shooting at walls and such sometimes 02:35:47 Under what circumstances? 02:38:36 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:39:23 killing dudes before it gets a chance to shoot 02:39:31 it sometimes just shoots at a wall after a fight 02:39:34 once 02:41:43 Well, it will shoot at your target location 02:41:45 If the target is dead 02:41:54 This means it may hit nothing if nothing is there, yes 02:42:18 Oh, AFTER the fight is over? 02:42:22 That one should be fixed 02:42:30 okay 02:42:35 it probably is ten 02:42:38 this was 4 hours ago 02:42:47 So before the served updated, I guess 02:42:56 I went to bed but couldn't sleep so now I'm bug reporting 02:43:01 it's victory dancing 02:43:04 Haha 02:43:05 yes 02:43:11 It actually could cause a crash, though 02:43:23 Under rarish circumstances 02:43:28 yes if it's convinced it's its own target 02:43:31 Yes 02:43:37 due to magic 02:43:44 Well, backend stuff 02:43:48 yes 02:43:51 that's what I said 02:43:53 Ha 02:44:23 the familiar is your pet thing, man? 02:44:27 that's really cool 02:44:35 Well, I coded all the new conjurer spells 02:44:41 oh man high five 02:44:44 Thanks :) 02:44:57 I really like all of them 02:45:16 I haven't actually learned an elemental spell yet, in the vaults 02:45:17 I'm glad to hear it. They do seem to be a pretty big hit 02:45:44 nothing but IMB, IAF, and IOoD 02:45:49 also spray and prism 02:45:51 I guess 02:46:04 it's kind of silly 02:46:55 I'm going to take this to the regular channel because it's no longer really feedback 02:47:01 Sure 03:08:05 -!- purge_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:09:24 -!- mumra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:10:38 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 03:15:27 -!- BallBlasta has quit [Client Quit] 03:16:46 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: AndroidIrc Disconnecting] 03:18:14 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:29:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: im alastor] 03:33:21 -!- localhost has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:43:08 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 03:54:07 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:58:27 -!- localhost has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:59:05 -!- wasd22 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:03:45 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 04:04:43 -!- 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bolt" also dispelling monster buffs 10(18 minutes ago, 4 files, 4+ 4-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f6505e59256 07:20:32 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1988-g95baa73: Add a message when dispelling monster buffs 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=95baa7302ca4 07:31:28 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:35:06 -!- Xiberia has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:39:34 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:42:40 -!- rchandra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:43:23 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:01:30 -!- rebthor has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 18.0.1/20130116073211]] 08:07:13 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 08:08:58 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:15:31 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:16:55 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19:25 -!- kek has joined 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10:39:38 -!- Chuth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:48:16 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:03:18 !learn add hangedman_patches RUNED DOOR REVIEW; replace TAGS: abyss with DEPTH: Abyss (does the minivault abyss dummy still work?; weak minivault depth shrinking; remove bad mini_float uses; abyss.des clean-up + lua functioning; visible floor/source for all cloud machines; shrink roulette; traps review; tiles-colours consistency review 11:03:18 hangedman patches[1/1]: RUNED DOOR REVIEW; replace TAGS: abyss with DEPTH: Abyss (does the minivault abyss dummy still work?; weak minivault depth shrinking; remove bad mini_float uses; abyss.des clean-up + lua functioning; visible floor/source for all cloud machines; shrink roulette; traps review; tiles-colours consistency review 11:05:35 I suppose I really need to get around to that runed door review before 0.12 feature freeze 11:09:44 "feature freeze" 11:10:11 you know, the one coming up never 11:10:13 i dont think a runed door review will be affected by feature freeze 11:10:39 probably most of these besides shrinking roulette wouldn't really count as features to freeze 11:12:07 oh right i wanted to patch that pan thingy 11:12:21 what pan thingy? 11:12:34 that pan thingy 11:12:49 runed doors in rand_demon_pan_entry_* 11:12:51 is it making all vaults in there called "evilmike_pan_other_thing_##" 11:13:45 oh, 9 11:13:46 no it just replaces = with + there 11:13:59 that is also a dumb use of traps 11:14:03 also 4 5 and 7 11:14:18 how the hell did 11:14:24 ugh, guppyfryyyyyyyyyy 11:14:36 HangedMan: btw you know that pan door vault thing 11:14:43 can you make that not place only like 3 monsters 11:15:04 nicolae_pan_door_chamber ? 11:15:30 it places six 11:16:26 so is this worth a mantis 11:16:28 and three greater demons with a pan lord is not trivial, even if I could see placing more any_demons in there 11:16:54 also what the fuck is up with gitorious 11:17:07 admittedly you don't have to fight many at once with any luck 11:17:44 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:12 whoever cares to apply this, http://bpaste.net/show/1VIFatruBMoZ1dNhKGVl/ 11:19:20 uh, no 11:19:31 perhaps might want to get rid of the CHANCE :p 11:20:10 that one, http://bpaste.net/show/vO23gBXhFDHSgBwCDD3Q/ 11:20:12 by the way, are there any thoughts on the hellmouths and pan_entries using the pandemonium or hell vault as the "portal" for the level? removes a few extraneous portals on given floors and aside from some quick fixes most of these vaults aren't too objectionable 11:20:29 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 11:22:16 Q: is red devil an imp 11:22:28 for hellmouth_1 11:23:41 red devils are pretty close to orc warriors for the depth anyway 11:23:52 hardly too dangerous 11:24:18 the spoilery items involved in the hellmouths could probably use some editing though 11:25:14 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:29:30 ChrisOelmueller: put that on mantis plz 11:29:36 can't let it be forgotten 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|| mg.foe == MHITYOU || mg.foe == MHITNOT) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1680 failed. (Slime:6) 12:19:57 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:20:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:21:08 <|amethyst> Hm.. I don't like the message "You feel your bond with your familiar wane." because that implies to me that the bond is still there, just weaker 12:21:35 <|amethyst> trying to think of a better word than "wane" 12:22:45 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:41 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:17 |amethyst: "Battletime is over." 12:24:19 -!- blabber has quit [Client Quit] 12:24:41 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:59 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:52 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:49:18 -!- codile has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:50:03 -!- timbw has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:51:09 "A" screen of naga doesn't mention constrict ability 12:51:22 xl 13 yet? 12:51:41 "%" screen shows "Constrict 1" in A-line 12:51:41 elliott: suddenly battlesphere is sounding like dorghis or whatever those were called 12:51:46 "A" screen doesn't 12:51:55 odd 12:51:57 so i assume one is a bug 12:51:59 "You can use your snake-like lower body to constrict enemies." 12:52:08 nope 12:52:33 <|amethyst> 'constrict 1' on % is a bug 12:52:38 <|amethyst> it shouldn't show up until XL 13 12:55:48 MarvinPA: thanks :) 12:59:05 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-1990-gd6bd172: Don't show 'constrict 1' for low-level Nagas. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6bd17296531 12:59:48 |amethyst: did that change in trunk or same for 0.11? 12:59:59 because i'm playing only stable 13:00:06 <|amethyst> Napkin: oh, right 13:00:15 <|amethyst> the bug is also in 0.11 13:01:08 thank you for clearing that up :) 13:02:16 |amethyst: mutation code seems pretty bad even for regular ones, yeah 13:03:55 now i just received "Your serpentine skin is tough (AC +1)." in "A" screen, but it's not mentioned in the A-line of "%" screen 13:04:47 -!- rkd has quit [] 13:05:24 <|amethyst> Napkin: nothing about AC bonus there at all? 13:05:33 no 13:05:54 i think for draconians it was mentioned there (in A-line of %), but not entirely sure 13:06:46 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20120715100958]] 13:07:48 there should be a line about what all ac bonuses together do to your ac 13:08:03 but as i said it's so horrible that certain bugs are pretty likely to show up again and again 13:08:17 this might be one of them 13:08:53 and yeah i can reproduce here 13:10:09 <|amethyst> Yeah, all AC (and EV, and stat, ...) boni from mutations or pseudo-mutations have to appear in something like three places, and the naga one is missing here 13:10:19 <|amethyst> give me a few minutes and I'll fix the naga one there 13:12:10 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:13:13 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:27 -!- Gilly_ is now known as Gilly 13:15:48 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:00 -!- kek has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:19:22 -!- mumra has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:29:18 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: Be excellent to one another, and party on dudes!] 13:31:00 -!- gomer has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:31:48 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:33 -!- Elynae has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:32:33 -!- puppyknuckled has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:32:33 -!- Guest80732 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:32:58 -!- geedmat has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:33:23 -!- mreisz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:39:09 <|amethyst> hm 13:39:22 <|amethyst> draconians' AC boni are also missing on % 13:47:01 <|amethyst> and % doesn't really handle forms very well when it comes to AC boni (though it's not clear what the correct behaviour should be) 13:48:14 <|amethyst> !lg * keae won s=god 13:48:15 30 games for * (keae won): 10x Vehumet, 7x Ashenzari, 5x Sif Muna, 3x Kikubaaqudgha, 2x Okawaru, Fedhas, Xom, The Shining One 13:48:16 <|amethyst> doh 13:48:51 |amethyst, I did that a few days ago too :b 13:51:21 -!- syllogism has quit [] 13:51:29 -!- Elynae_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:59:46 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-1991-g09a8698: Display naga and draconian AC boni on the % screen. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=09a8698a5382 14:01:30 -!- prominence has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:07:54 <|amethyst> Napkin: just pushed those two commits to stable (0.11.2-2-gc370374) 14:09:08 <|amethyst> I'm sure those aren't the only inconsistencies... put them on mantis if you notice more; I'm off for now 14:09:54 Cherry-picked 2 commits into stone_soup-0.11 14:11:23 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:12:00 * Grunt tinkers with using some of the panlord spell selection code to give random spell sets to some spellcasting monsters... 14:12:49 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:14:31 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:43 todo: cap the number of level 9 spells... the thought of facing an alich with Fire Storm, Ice Storm, Summon Dragon, and Shatter is kind of terrifying. :| 14:14:53 (No, I am probably not going to land this code ever; I'm just tinkering with it.) 14:16:13 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:03 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:45:21 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Butts] 14:45:51 -!- monqy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:50 -!- monqy has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:46:54 -!- monqy_ is now known as monqy 14:50:19 03Grunt 07* 0.12-a0-1992-g537d1ec: Don't print out-of-LOS messages for shielded monsters triggering traps. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=537d1ec97e5a 14:53:06 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:01:18 -!- mamga has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:09:43 back to Mass Polymorph: a refined idea is "Invoke Chaos" (or some such): for every monster in $RANGE, 1. zap 'em with MR-resistible polymorph, then 2. zap 'em with a wand of random effects, and finally, for a good measure, 3. call melee_attack::chaos_affects_defender() (ie, same as clouds of chaos) 15:10:33 Grunt: 15:10:36 @??Master Blaster 15:10:36 Master Blaster (13L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 30 | HP: 1500 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, 07vault | Res: 06magic(560), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: fire storm (8d23), ice storm (10d19), miasma (3d20), teleport self | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 15:11:05 final boss of teh Arena Sprint 15:11:37 kilobyte: I know of him, yes, but it seems kind of unfair on a garden variety alich :) 15:15:36 03Grunt 07* 0.12-a0-1993-g1f5ad4c: Kill "killed from afar[...]with an it" with a proper death message. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f5ad4ce9a83 15:16:59 <3 "killed from afar with an it" 15:17:09 !lg * kaux=it 15:17:09 3. Spatiation the Destroyer (L16 DEVM), worshipper of Vehumet, blasted by a vampire knight (it) on D:17 (lemuel vampire tower) on 2013-01-25 20:11:39, with 132763 points after 42299 turns and 5:06:19. 15:21:21 random spells by spell level sounds good for wizards and deep elf mages but the high level stuff could just be kept to pan lords 15:24:46 -!- Pthing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:08 -!- motorbit has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:32:10 -!- lexackson has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:11 -!- Zephryn has quit [Quit: My work is end \(^o^)/] 15:41:17 -!- smeea has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:41:17 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 18.0.1/20130116073211]] 15:41:35 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:41 -!- codile_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 15:45:04 is grunt importing primordial liches from crawl light 15:45:13 ...huh? 15:45:24 wonderful monsters for the hard mode over there 15:45:38 the conjurer set has ice storm and the summoner set has mass haste and uh 15:45:43 eyes? XXX? 15:45:57 (Incidentally, aliches with XXX is terrifying.) 15:47:14 whoever gave constriction to hentai monstrosities totally forgot that monster XXX summons multiples per cast 15:47:36 no, it was clearly on purpose for mnoleg buffs 15:47:40 Not many things have XXX other than the player... 15:47:52 -!- johnthebear has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:47:58 I don't think I've even seen a random pan lord have it so 15:48:08 Grunt: are you implying player XXX is not overpowered though :P 15:48:09 It can and does happen; it's just rare. 15:49:38 ChrisOelmueller: no, just commenting on its rarity in general :) 15:54:22 should Jiyva wrath include polymorphs? Should tmut miscasts include mutations? 15:55:06 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:55:20 in my current tree, Jiyva has mutations only, high tmut miscasts have more than 50% polymorph but keep current mutation/glow effects. 15:57:33 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:57:40 -!- ZChris13_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:42 -!- ZChris13_ is now known as ZChris13 15:57:58 I like tmut miscasts being glowy personally 16:01:06 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:01:51 pushed my tree then, so you can take a look and see if this is good enough 16:02:04 -!- puppyknuckled_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:03:22 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:04:49 <|amethyst> !lg * kaux=it s=kmsg 16:04:49 Cannot summarise by kmsg 16:04:50 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Client Quit] 16:07:10 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1571-gd2ee506: Allow reading a book's description even while in wisp form. 10(9 days ago, 4 files, 33+ 9-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2ee50634187 16:07:10 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1572-gad68f12: Randomize the duration of bad forms, including porkalator. 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad68f12d7b35 16:07:10 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1573-g2722df2: Comment what some enchantments do. 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2722df253978 16:07:10 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1574-g9dcf061: Axe an unused function. 10(8 days ago, 2 files, 0+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9dcf061a30a9 16:07:10 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1575-gd2473b6: Separate polymorph vs malmutate for monsters too. 10(3 days ago, 4 files, 24+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2473b647cdb 16:07:10 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1576-g9c93fb1: Change Malmutate's level (completely irrelevant). 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c93fb19a18e 16:07:10 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1577-gfeced23: Ruin a vault. 10(35 hours ago, 1 file, 8+ 7-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=feced233ed79 16:07:10 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1578-gae9be96: Untransmute Dig, Leda and Condensation Shield. 10(35 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae9be96a6b5e 16:07:10 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1579-g2e1ec85: Mark the tree form as unviable when in a harmful cloud. 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e1ec85bc956 16:07:10 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1580-g82a7a84: Fix a totally wrong comment. 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=82a7a84a7db9 16:07:10 ... and 1 more commits 16:07:12 -!- mamga has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:08:33 <|amethyst> gah, I thought I fixed that bug 16:09:09 |amethyst: which one? 16:09:21 <|amethyst> "and 1 more commits" 16:09:29 <|amethyst> both of the bugs with that 16:09:48 <|amethyst> 1. grammar and 2. it's silly, just print the last commit, it's the same number of messages 16:12:08 The vault is broken for reasons not related to polymorph anyway, with Vaults 16:12:09 branch overhauls it doesn't show up. 16:12:15 nice not pulling master 16:13:13 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:13:43 -!- ChickenWing has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:14:02 -!- Rebthor has quit [Client Quit] 16:15:15 ...and by pulling master I mean "understanding the point of the nonsense that made it fit into V in the first place" but "whatever" 16:16:04 -!- Guest5971 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:17:17 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1582-ge07c2f1: Make Dig noisy again; newstalker changes are no more. 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 14+ 3-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e07c2f1a4a12 16:17:36 HangedMan: yeah, you fixed the vault since then, but this change is orthogonal (although it will conflict on merge) 16:18:05 I couldn't get it to show up, at least 16:22:34 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 16:22:34 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 16:22:34 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: CAO is back, in time for tournament play! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious! 16:23:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 16:27:05 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:30 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:29:36 -!- ZChris13_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:37 -!- ZChris13_ is now known as ZChris13 16:29:44 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1993-g1f5ad4c 16:29:57 Is there any real purpose to dig being noisy, incidentally? 16:30:48 <|amethyst> DracoOmega: same as any other spell 16:30:50 well you could ask the same about it not being noisy 16:31:06 <|amethyst> DracoOmega: that commit made it have a 0 noise modifier instead of -4 16:31:06 Well, I guess being able to use it to sneak around things seemed kind of nice and fitting to me 16:31:12 since that was only the case to sort of make stalker work 16:31:38 <|amethyst> earth elementalists aren't particularly known for being quiet :0 16:31:54 <|amethyst> s/0/)/ 16:31:56 Well, no. But the wand. 16:32:20 <|amethyst> do wands make noise like casting the spell? 16:32:25 I thought they did? 16:32:33 I believe the wand is still silent? 16:32:39 they use the same zap, at least 16:32:40 it skips the spellcasting and goes straight to the zap or whatever 16:32:43 <|amethyst> I mean, lightning bolt and fireball do but those sounds aren't from the casting, they're an effect 16:32:49 lemme check, I tried it on the spell 16:32:52 <|amethyst> s/an/part of the/ 16:33:01 Yes, it's the wand I was thinking of more here 16:33:18 Since that does have some ocassional interesting tactical uses on more stealthy characters 16:43:03 ghrmblah, why do we even have zap_data? 16:43:42 especially with its redundant loudness field, sometimes loudness is taken from spell_data, sometimes from zap_data, in an inconsistent way 16:43:55 And I think some loudness is actually special-cased from elsewhere 16:43:59 Like lightning bolts 16:44:05 not to mention needing separate ZAP_ and SPELL_ enums 16:44:12 that too 16:45:34 <|amethyst> hm... the talk of dialects in ##crawl made my notice that we use "eggplant" for a fake item and a @_roaring_animal_name_@, but "aubergine" as a colour 16:46:04 ??eggplant 16:46:04 eggplant[1/1]: A rotten eggplant which you can throw at the Crawl developers. (It's a bug if you ever see this message in Crawl.) 16:48:52 -!- djanatyn has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:50:47 why is Q- broken in most cases? 16:51:04 it prints _Reset throwing quiver to default. 16:51:16 this with one quivered item 16:51:19 -!- Dixbert has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:51:32 the message however states Quiver which item? (- for none, * to show all) 16:52:42 -!- aspy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:54:55 !tell bh there's a bunch of times when monsters spawning in the Abyss give inappropriate messages (starcursed splits, going to a new level, etc) -- what about making that opt-in; I think random spawns are the only case that should give a message, even 16:54:55 kilobyte: OK, I'll let bh know. 16:55:02 HangedMan (L26 DgCj) (Abyss:5) 16:55:31 even those are questionable 16:55:36 that was firing a bolt of fire through evilmike_abyss_exit_bushes or something 16:55:46 HangedMan (L26 DgCj) (Abyss:5) 16:55:54 and it can be repeated, fun 16:56:09 backup the save! 16:56:32 HangedMan: 16:57:04 http://dobrazupa.org/saves/HangedMan-crawl-git-1c1002134a-130130-2256.tar.bz2 16:57:29 -!- Twinge has quit [Excess Flood] 16:57:54 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:05 -!- djanatyn has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:16 -!- Twinge has quit [Excess Flood] 16:58:35 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:16 HangedMan (L26 DgCj) (Abyss:5) 16:59:26 Same thing or something else? 16:59:35 same thing, just making sure of something 16:59:43 No familiar involved, I hope? ^^ 16:59:52 -!- ark__ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:59 (Since I would like to think that I fixed the abyss issues with that entirely) 17:00:00 clearly what I've forgotten this whole time 17:00:06 HangedMan (L26 DgCj) (Abyss:5) 17:00:09 ... 17:00:14 okay that wasn't the same thing 17:00:18 that was sublimation of blood 17:00:32 what the hell is with this 17:00:39 That's odd 17:00:39 HangedMan (L26 DgCj) (Abyss:5) 17:00:42 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:00:50 HangedMan (L26 DgCj) (Abyss:5) 17:01:11 okay, that save crashes with trying to cast spells 17:01:16 Any spells? 17:01:24 HangedMan (L26 DgCj) (Abyss:5) 17:01:39 bolt of fire, throw flame, apport, sublimation, delayed fireball 17:01:47 Please tell me you do not have a familiar out and did not recently? I am paranoid with how many times new things have gone wrong with it 17:02:57 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:03:09 familiar is null 17:03:31 What? 17:03:42 HangedMan (L26 DgCj) (Abyss:5) 17:03:50 trying to make another familiar 17:03:54 ok to make the save public? 17:04:04 sure 17:04:23 http://angband.pl/tmp/HangedMan.cs 17:04:49 (for DracoOmega) 17:05:44 he just went to a different level 17:06:05 Oh, in the abyss? 17:06:11 And I guess the familiar got left behind 17:06:24 And it doesn't use the normal level cleanup routines? 17:07:09 well, not casting to get out makes things not crash on spells 17:08:53 Well, the familiar effect will timeout after a little while 17:09:00 And then things should be fine 17:09:13 In terms of actually playing that character 17:10:53 -!- mamga_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:14:34 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 20.0a2/20130126042019]] 17:15:51 Well, this is unrelated, but this looks like another bug 17:15:53 if (you.religion == GOD_CHEIBRIADOS) 17:15:53 { 17:15:53 mpr("You feel Cheibriados slowing down the madness of this place.", 17:15:53 MSGCH_GOD, GOD_CHEIBRIADOS); 17:15:53 } 17:15:53 you.abyss_speed /= 2; 17:15:54 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:58 hahhaha 17:16:15 "oops" 17:16:30 So, it only TELLS you Chei does this if you worship him, but the god is always pulling strings behind the scenes to help you out 17:17:14 I guess all of recent balancing relies on that line 17:17:30 Yes 17:18:05 this is fantastic 17:18:13 has it always been like that? I recall reading that code one time and it not looking broken 17:18:27 that seems pretty good 17:19:19 is abyss speed just the speed it morphs? 17:19:34 wh, wow 17:19:35 mon-place.cc 393 looks like the actual spawn rate works as intended 17:19:46 thanks chei 17:20:15 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:21:15 ah no, there is no bug 17:21:40 yeah everything seems to get adjusted later on in the opposite direction 17:21:50 :( 17:22:14 the message is about Chei's influence elsewhere, it's just an coincidence this line was after Chei's message 17:22:16 Yes, that's almost a little disappointing 17:22:30 MarvinPA: they're _not_ redundant, even if it seems so 17:23:08 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:08 the speed accumulates, re-entering the Abyss halves the accumulated value rather than zeroing it 17:23:13 right 17:24:39 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Kicked by KickServ] 17:25:10 I actually find myself confused about why familiar cleanup is not happening on taking abyss stairs 17:25:21 Since it seems to follow the same path as normal stairs 17:25:23 More or less 17:27:26 where do you clean it up? 17:28:13 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1994-gd276636: Make it more obvious halving abyss_speed between visits is not related to Chei. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d276636cffa5 17:28:27 Abyss uses a code path shared with portal vaults and other non-persistent levels, it may depend on the level being deleted rather than saved 17:28:48 That would make sense, but I'm not currently seeing the code that would depend on that 17:29:32 It happens during _grab_followers() in load_level(), but _grab_followers() appears to be called even if the branch doesn't allow taking them with you 17:29:51 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:05 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:32:46 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes is now known as Claws 17:32:59 -!- Claws is now known as HangedMan 17:34:58 -!- freefall has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35:11 were wyverns actually made smaller in 0.12 17:35:18 the changelog says yes but the commit in question doesn't seem to do anything to wyverns 17:37:48 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:39:24 -!- freefall has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:26 -!- Elkan has quit [Quit: Quitte] 17:42:44 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:43:28 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:46:43 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:48:10 -!- ZRN has quit [] 17:49:11 Okay, it looks like abyss stairs actually DO work fine 17:49:30 The issue, I think, is with level teleports (ie: "You are suddenly pulled into a different region") 17:50:27 why do you even need to clean up the familiar? 17:50:52 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:57 Well, if the familiar doesn't exist but the bond is still active, trying to cast something tries to give commands to the familiar, which doesn't actually exist 17:52:18 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:52:42 I guess it doesn't really handle this scenario gracefully, since it's not supposed to happen 17:53:53 nothing actually happens unless you cast a spell, right? 17:53:58 Yes 17:54:12 so there's no need to keep track of the familiar that closely 17:54:24 Well, it doesn't crash either until you try to cast a spell 17:54:46 i think i've had this crash but i didn't report it because i wanted to know how to reproduce it first 17:54:55 I could add code to end the familiar on level teleport, but what I might do instead is just make the aiming routine bail if it can't find the familiar 17:55:08 Which should cover any future edge cases 17:58:43 -!- geedmat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:59:12 -!- Sobieck has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:01:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:01:36 Okay, I have posted a fix 18:01:47 <|amethyst> maybe also bail if it's not a MONS_ARCANE_FAMILIAR ? 18:02:04 <|amethyst> err 18:02:08 <|amethyst> never mind 18:03:00 <|amethyst> already happend, should have re-looked at the function 18:03:10 <|amethyst> s/nd,/ns,/ 18:03:50 03DracoOmega 07* 0.12-a0-1995-g5c1cb0b: Don't crash if a familiar somehow disappears without ending the familiar bond 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c1cb0b7dc87 18:03:52 Fix a familiar-related abyss crash (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6589) by DracoOmega 18:03:52 HangedMan's save fails to crash, cool 18:04:00 nice 18:04:04 Haha, reverse order there 18:04:35 that should fix the problem i was having too, i was levelporting in wizmode and getting crashes 18:04:57 Yes, this is safer all around 18:05:19 -!- ark__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:06:20 -!- Chapayev has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 18:06:38 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:08:15 On a different topic, I was looking into adding code today to warn you if you do stuff like try to cast regen under TSO (especially after swapping from a god that's okay with this). And notice there was code that already did something similar but was commented out 18:08:26 Due to some false-positives with TSO and poison magic 18:09:04 wait how can there be false positives with something checking whether your god likes a thing 18:09:08 Personally, I think the easiest and possibly best thing is just to make TSO mad when you use poison spells, not just when they actually poison things. Since you can actually kill rPois monsters with venom bolt and he's okay with this 18:09:12 <|amethyst> what check does the code that actually penalises use, and is that in a separate functions? 18:09:16 oh god, that 18:09:20 DracoOmega: seconded 18:09:30 In fact, he's apparently okay with meph in general 18:09:34 what 18:09:36 fix this 18:09:41 ooh good tso nerf 18:09:50 <|amethyst> I don't know about Cure Poison 18:09:51 It's coloured red, but he doesn't seem to mind when things get confused by it 18:09:59 Cure poison is specifically excluded, and that's probably fine 18:10:02 |amethyst: I can think of a good solution to that 18:10:06 (removing Cure Poison) 18:10:11 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:10:15 <|amethyst> yeah, also what elliott said 18:10:21 But it seems wierd that it's okay to kill black mambas with venom bolt, but not orange demons 18:10:26 <|amethyst> though then OTR is a little less good 18:10:34 ha ha. 18:10:37 <|amethyst> in the starting book I mean 18:10:40 I don't really think cure poison should be removed, and that's a seperate issue anyway 18:11:04 will just promote VM^ely 18:11:07 good thing imo 18:11:09 |amethyst: a little less good than what 18:11:20 -!- Utis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:11:21 I mean, does it really make sense that TSO is fine with killing SOME things (not necessarily demons) with poison magic, but not others? Dependant only on them getting the poison status and not on them taking large amounts of damage from poison 18:11:36 no 18:11:37 it does not 18:11:46 And that would basically fix these false positives :P 18:11:56 By making them true positives 18:12:26 DracoOmega: arguing like that, and noting that TSO is the god of truly messed up conducts, it's an argument for keeping things as-is :/ 18:12:51 How? 18:15:08 ever noticed how tso angels can attack all that helpless stuff 18:15:11 that you cannot 18:15:13 Yes 18:15:24 This is convenient, if hypocritical 18:15:36 (And also extremely hard to change, I'm sure) 18:15:45 Well, hard to make them obey said conduct, I mean 18:15:57 i don't think it would be hard to allow stabbing for tso folks 18:16:29 In that direction, sure 18:16:32 I meant the other one 18:19:40 In any case, I think I will make a patch for this in the not so distant future. So that I (and other people) don't tick TSO off by casting regen on muscle memory anymore :P 18:19:47 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:20:01 i tend to change spell slots when i switch gods like that 18:20:18 Yes, that is a sound policy 18:20:24 But I still think Crawl should warn you 18:20:37 Like it warns you for a whole lot of other things you probably don't ever want to do 18:20:59 imo a snake should tempt you into casting the forbidden spells 18:21:03 mm 18:21:07 Hah 18:24:05 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1996-gc6316cf: Axe some braces. 10(17 minutes ago, 4 files, 0+ 10-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6316cfe6df7 18:24:05 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1997-ga2b2d32: Mark functions prefixes with _ as actually static. 10(3 minutes ago, 7 files, 15+ 38-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2b2d32b1457 18:26:15 -!- timbw has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:30:48 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 18:31:23 -!- shirish has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:32:19 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:38:14 -!- Vizer has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:02 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:44:09 -!- Sobieck has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:44:31 -!- Dunwich has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:48:14 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:56:02 -!- Wehk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56:19 -!- Wehk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:55 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:33 kilobyte, how is mon-pick coming along? There is some discussion about abyssal monster weights and possibly making some of them depth-dependent, and I would like to know if / how badly that would break anything you're working on right now. 19:17:25 hmm right... 19:18:27 i'd be more interested in how it breaks design premises of new abyss to just do it now even if it was explicitly planned to not happen before 19:19:39 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:24:42 Grunt: in 90730a6bc, you made dgn_build_rooms_level() unused. Was that intentional? 19:25:11 * Grunt looks. 19:25:31 I thought at the time that it might have been used for something else (such as wizmode level building), but if it isn't, so much the better. 19:25:40 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:26:18 -!- mreisz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:26:40 So it was intentional that the major use of it be removed, but I was unaware that it wasn't used anywhere else, if that makes sense. 19:26:42 -!- Crazylemon64 has quit [Quit: Crazylemon64] 19:26:49 s/be removed/was removed/ 19:29:25 layout_rooms has some similarities, but I'm not sure if it produces the same effect 19:32:54 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:32:54 -!- bmfx_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:32:54 I note that there's a lot of similarity between the code of the two; about the only difference I immediately observe is the number of rooms used (the original function call used 25-99 rooms, and layout_rooms uses 30-119)... 19:33:13 -!- Crazylemon64 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:33:24 ...oh, it caps it at 30 after trying to generate them. 19:34:29 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:39:24 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:43:46 the question is, is there a reason to keep the other version? 19:43:52 -!- Zermako has quit [] 19:44:06 It appears not. 19:44:25 It looks like they were originally the same thing to some extent, so having two versions of it around no longer makes much sense. 19:47:47 caleba the Axe Maniac (L17 MiBe) ASSERT(!at_branch_bottom()) in 'stairs.cc' at line 545 failed on turn 5162. (Abyss) 19:52:24 -!- gomer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:55:47 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:02:50 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:05:08 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 20:07:31 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:08:00 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:09:05 -!- medgno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:09:26 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Quit: Dain's default quit message] 20:10:27 -!- Morphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:28:21 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:29:38 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:32:26 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:39:29 -!- Blade_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:40:52 -!- mreisz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:44:05 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:50 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:59 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:47:00 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 20:47:13 -!- jdpage has quit [Quit: à plus tard] 20:47:58 interesting... if a deep elf demonologist spawns in ZotDef and banishes you, all monsters stop acting 20:48:26 seems unbelievable that this has never been reported, though 20:48:40 well, it's... zotdef 20:49:50 creating a demonologist in wizmode works, and totally random waves can create them too 20:50:02 -!- wasd22 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:50:24 Louise can spawn, too 20:52:58 who actually plays zotdef 20:54:02 it's possible every single monster who has the Banishment spell got whacked by oklobs and co before getting to you, but still... 20:54:50 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:55:44 -!- odjn has quit [] 21:03:46 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1998-gb7c3957: Don't let sprinters detour through the Abyss. 10(12 minutes ago, 11 files, 21+ 55-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7c3957576be 21:03:46 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1999-gaefd8e3: Fix all monsters ceasing to act after getting banished in ZotDef. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aefd8e30fbad 21:05:02 kilobyte: er, does it really say "You're already here!" if you try and lugonu-enter the abyss in sprint? 21:07:14 well, how can you do that? 21:07:21 oh, hm 21:07:23 does the ability get disabled? 21:07:56 yeah 21:08:30 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:08:51 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.11 21:08:52 right 21:21:07 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:21:07 -!- bza has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:23:43 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:28:24 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:33:00 -!- lexackson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:33:01 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:41:53 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:46:11 -!- rlbond86 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:49:17 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-2000-g7197619: Make some functions static or gone. 10(2 hours ago, 7 files, 4+ 75-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7197619b3cee 21:49:17 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-2001-gf599d7f: Base whether banishment works on existence of the Abyss. 10(3 minutes ago, 6 files, 12+ 11-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f599d7fc2eaa 22:00:06 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:27 -!- Morphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:04:21 -!- Potassium has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:04:41 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:05:29 -!- ctrlaltdelete is now known as Potatssium 22:08:30 -!- lexackson has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:49 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1999-gaefd8e3 22:10:51 -!- mamga has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:15:19 -!- erdfgs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:18:03 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:39 -!- Crazylemon64 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:30:27 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:42:18 -!- monqy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49:09 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:55:23 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:11 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:01:10 -!- collapse_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:14:02 -!- shirish has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:19:41 -!- prospero_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:27:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 23:29:04 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:33:31 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 23:36:26 -!- Dunwich has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:36:29 -!- Nabski has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:44:50 -!- gnsh has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:46:17 -!- Morphy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:48:55 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:52:13 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:53:50 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:55:08 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 23:57:11 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]