00:00:20 Same as before, opens then crashes. 00:01:24 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1825-gf3a4683 (34) 00:02:02 oh wait. 00:02:05 crawl: sqlite3.c:15631: pthreadMutexEnter: Assertion `p->id==1 || pthreadMutexNotheld(p)' failed. 00:02:05 Writing crash info to morgue/crash--20130125-000007.txt 00:02:06 Aborted (core dumped) 00:06:11 Guess he's gone? 00:06:34 Not quite, but I do need to leave :| 00:07:18 Alright. Think there's someone to help me out with this? 00:10:01 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 00:13:07 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 00:14:06 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:16 hai 00:14:16 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:14:17 !messages 00:14:17 (1/1) MarvinPA said (2d 5h 56m 25s ago): oh hey i think bh actually had a patch for xp-based wrath for all gods should get that into 0.12 00:14:53 !tell MarvinPA It's super-stale and doesn't handle doing-stuff-that-makes-gods-happy piety decreases 00:14:53 bh: OK, I'll let MarvinPA know. 00:15:52 Grunt, know anyone who could help out or no..? 00:16:43 -!- Morphy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:17:57 -!- freefall has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:20:19 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:22:19 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:29:49 -!- freefall has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:44 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:42:55 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:50:52 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:52:57 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:58:32 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:07:31 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:09:00 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:10:54 -!- Kagero has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:19:26 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:25:09 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 01:28:42 did you guys check out rchandra's jorgrun death yet 01:29:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 01:37:06 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:39:31 -!- Grildrak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:41:18 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:43:38 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:46:40 Pacra: no 02:03:38 -!- tophat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:05:58 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:16:05 -!- BunnehWyld has quit [Quit: Bye!] 02:31:04 -!- dspencer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:45:46 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 02:48:05 -!- Xelf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:57:47 -!- dspencer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:01:55 -!- Wraiths has quit [Client Quit] 03:18:18 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 03:18:21 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 03:18:55 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 03:24:31 -!- peppermilne has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:24:52 -!- jxriddle has quit [Quit: jxriddle] 03:29:59 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:38:45 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:46 -!- Dixbert has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:42:06 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:44:44 -!- Psyknux has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:47:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:48:31 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:08 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:50:13 -!- scrubnub has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:50:45 -!- djanatyn has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:51:24 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:51:30 !tell HangedMan re: hangedman_slither (sorry didn't notice before I fell asleep). Right now that won't work well, but ideally I'd automatically fill in the empty areas with wall, and connect up doors next to bits of floor. you could specify vaults_orient_e vaults_orient_w so it always gets used like a snakey corridor if you wanted. 03:51:30 Maximum message length is 300 characters. Eschew verbosity, Gladys! 03:51:38 !tell HangedMan re: hangedman_slither (sorry didn't notice before I fell asleep). Right now that won't work well, but ideally I'd automatically fill in the empty areas with wall, and connect up doors next to bits of floor. 03:51:39 mumra: OK, I'll let HangedMan know. 03:53:34 !tell HangedMan I'm attempting some stuff now to do with inspecting the map features which should solve all other the remaining problems too. This involves hacking maps.cc which is non-trivial so we'll see how it goes. 03:53:34 mumra: OK, I'll let HangedMan know. 03:55:15 Hey mumra, you use linux or know anything about it? 03:55:32 a little, i'm mainly a windows guy 03:55:53 Oh. 03:56:27 Finally got Stone Soup installed, but now it crashes seconds after booting, and the guy who was helping me had to run off. Blah. 03:56:30 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:56:35 heh 03:56:42 is there a crash log? 03:56:47 Yeah. 03:56:53 -!- wasd22 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:57:08 copy it to pastebin or somewhere 03:57:39 Here's the error (just one line) Terminal spat out. If it doesn't say anything, I'll pastebin the rest. 03:57:42 crawl: sqlite3.c:15631: pthreadMutexEnter: Assertion `p->id==1 || pthreadMutexNotheld(p)' failed. 03:59:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 04:02:03 mumra: what do you think the final des system should be for newnewvaults? I think splitting at least empty and monsters would be okay 04:02:13 sorry, just got hit by a blinding flash of inspiration on some other problem i was having and had to deal with it immediately :) 04:02:14 one file will get super enormous 04:03:10 Dionist: that file isn't even in the Crawl codebase, it's from a submodule, so i'm a bit lost; but as a completely wild guess it's to do with cpu cores 04:04:06 I updated the submodules beforehand though... 04:04:07 clouded_: at the moment i have six separate des files for that reason ;) 04:04:09 Bah. 04:04:21 Hopefully Grunt will know more when he comes back. 04:04:21 Dionist: yeah if you hadn't updated them the code wouldn't exist to have an error 04:05:07 no, the submodules are completely unnecessary on linux 04:05:18 clouded_: the old vaults_rooms.des was 8000 lines which was destroying my mind (especially with all the subsubsubsubsubvaults that infiniplex seems fond of...) 04:05:38 Grunt made it sound like they were necessary. 04:05:48 edlothiol what do you suggest then? 04:06:01 Dionist: have you tried just installing the packages from http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/downloads instead of compiling yourself? 04:06:18 (i.e. the instructions under "Packages for Debian-based Operating Systems") 04:07:05 -!- dspencer has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:07:15 Actually, I installed them via git. 04:08:29 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:08:33 for which there is really no reason if you just want to play 0.11 on ubuntu 04:08:43 hrm. 04:09:11 you are on ubuntu, right? (which version exactly?) 04:09:46 version 12.04 04:10:11 Plus I tried to install the package just now... invalid operation. 04:11:45 what did you do exactly? 04:12:32 sudo apt-get deb (address) 04:13:04 just deb on its own and sudo deb just gives "command not found". 04:13:42 that line needs to be inserted into your sources.list; do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list", paste the line at the end, then save and close gedit 04:14:15 then run "wget http://crawl.develz.org/debian/pubkey -O - | sudo apt-key add -" 04:14:43 and then run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install crawl 04:14:52 or rather, crawl-tiles 04:16:19 -!- djanatyn has joined ##crawl-dev 04:16:44 -!- maahes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:17:30 Hope it works this time. 04:17:39 Been going in circles all freaking day. 04:18:16 Bingo. 04:18:20 Thanks. 04:18:23 Finally. 04:19:00 so it runs? 04:19:15 Yep. 04:19:19 great ;) 04:38:21 -!- alefury has quit [] 04:45:02 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:46:13 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 04:46:13 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 04:46:13 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: CAO is back, in time for tournament play! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious! 04:48:13 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 04:49:08 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:50:39 -!- Psyknux has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:51:43 -!- sky___ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:57:42 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:01:09 clouded_: the old vaults_rooms.des was 8000 lines which was destroying my mind (especially with all the subsubsubsubsubvaults that infiniplex seems fond of...) 05:01:16 oops 05:01:38 pressed up-enter in wrong window 05:01:52 all good, cannot state it often enough 05:02:05 I support re-emphasis of condemnation of nested subvaults 05:02:38 working a little on stuff atm 05:02:38 i should have said sub a few more times ;) 05:03:32 removing the floor subst for monsters and adding them manually seems to make an appropriate total number 05:04:03 clouded_: yeah that subst was just for st_'s test batch because there were no monsters and the levels were a little empty otherwise 05:04:08 with a good balance of in and out of subvaults 05:04:21 I'm st_ if you didn't know :P 05:04:30 ahhhhhhhhhhh 05:04:50 sometimes that nick is taken 05:08:46 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 05:09:50 nobody ever takes mumra, maybe because it's a misspelling in the first place 05:16:33 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:17:06 the good news is, i've extended the lua api so i can now properly inspect the map before placing it. this will respect all SUBST, KFEAT, and other transformations. 05:19:29 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:20:41 -!- grilltatactics has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:21:22 -!- dspencer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:22:17 this means i can always connect rooms and place windows in valid ways. i could also check for @s instead of needing the orient tags. 05:23:19 and incidentally i found out why vaults were duplicating even with no allow_dup tag, why uniq_* etc. weren't working, and why the vault name wasn't showing up in debug 05:24:31 ...this was the "blinding flash of inspiration" when i realised that reuse_map had two extra parameters that i wasn't using ;) 05:24:45 -!- odjn has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:25:25 oh, it was also the reason why i was getting so many vetos with some subvaults ("transparent" was being ignored basically) 05:28:43 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:31:43 -!- nago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:38:58 -!- odjn has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:55:39 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:00:06 -!- dspencer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:01:38 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 06:02:04 -!- Dionist has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:08:43 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:19:43 -!- pantaril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:05 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 06:31:30 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:33:54 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:34:38 -!- dspencer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:36:15 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:36:24 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Changing host] 06:42:06 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:43:55 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:47:53 -!- pantaril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:48:57 check out this level http://pastie.org/5856325 06:49:00 pretty cool 06:49:41 though I need a version that respects allow_dup :P 06:50:12 oh, awesome 06:50:41 that's omnigrid (which is my favourite) 06:51:38 it's got a lot of feature rooms vs. empty rooms, probably because the max_size is set high so the empty rooms will fail to place more often (i really need to unlink those two things) 06:55:20 clouded_: just pushed the fix for allow_dup, you'll need to recompile 06:55:40 let me know if it seems to work properly, haven't extensively tested yet 06:56:03 okay, I'll do that once I've gone through vaults_rooms 07:00:12 great. i went through all the 7x7s except facing ones. didn't have the strength to deal with the rest ;) 07:00:50 1x1s and 4x4s were moved into vaults_rooms_removed but they're still referenced as subvaults so it'd break things if they were actually deleted 07:01:04 i was thinking more about the .des files 07:01:28 splitting into empty and monsters is good for the most part, maybe there could be a third one for large vaults? 07:02:17 and then anything that makes use of its own subsubvaults should go into its own separate file imo, because having subvaults that aren't vaults_rooms scattered around makes the files confusing to navigate 07:06:42 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:09:30 if we get duplication of lua functions (e.g. monster substitution) in different files, can always move those shared functions into dlua/v_vaults.lua or similar, and use a require statement (as layout_vaults.des does) 07:11:22 -!- dspencer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:16:54 tested, allow_dup fix worked fine 07:22:50 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:23:45 -!- Mottie has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:29:52 -!- shirish has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43:43 hm, is there a way to do arrival vaults with these layouts? 07:43:58 I suppose it's hard to guarantee stairs 07:46:19 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:47:15 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:49:42 -!- dspencer has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:00:42 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:01:38 there could be a tag which basically said "preserve these stairs", that would be pretty easy 08:03:01 otoh another way of looking at it is, any vault with stairs is *potentially* an arrival vault ... 08:08:32 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:18:46 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 .] 08:22:30 -!- pantaril_ has quit [Client Quit] 08:24:16 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 08:24:54 -!- dspencer has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:28:23 -!- SaintWacko has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:30:00 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:31:36 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:33:44 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:34:33 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:07 -!- johnstein has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:35:12 Napkin: git.develz.org seems to be not updating again :/ 08:35:30 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:39:02 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Quit: I've killed the senator.] 08:41:12 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Client Quit] 08:49:24 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:50:49 killed, elliott 08:50:53 next update should work 08:51:01 thanks 08:51:32 mumra: it seems to take an extremely long time to make some levels now 08:52:15 enough that I've had to stop the process 08:53:52 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:54:58 clouded_: hmm ... i've noticed that very occasionally (the process hung for a bit but produced something after 5-10secs) 08:55:05 but generally it's pretty fast for me 08:55:32 what could be happening is that particular room layouts are causing vetoes 08:56:16 I did actually have a level created after one of the really long times, but it looked like it had made one level (and created monsters) and then replaced it with another 08:56:20 ... that scenario should be completely cured when i do proper matching up of empty space 08:56:24 oh 08:56:26 so there were monsters in walls 08:58:59 no problems here ... it could be problems with vaults you've retagged from vaults_rooms.des? 08:59:22 maybe 08:59:49 but i don't know why monsters in walls would be happening (that happened to me before when there was a specific problem with layout_vaults.des causing two layouts to run every time) 09:00:44 you might want to do a debug build, then you can look for [VETO] messages, and also lua errors (but it'll be hard to see which rooms are causing the vetos) 09:01:13 good idea 09:01:26 when i was investigating bad vaults before, i went into the c++ code and manually disabled the veto so i could actually see what levels were being generated and why they were vetoing 09:01:32 it shed a lot of light on things 09:01:40 but i don't think there's another way to override the veto 09:01:49 -!- dspencer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:02:08 hmm, removing spiked flails means i have to adjust a lot of monster gear tables 09:02:13 should i just use my best judgement? 09:03:03 clouded_: comment out line #1817 of dungeon.cc, or if that doesn't work then line #356 09:03:33 sorry, that should be #346 09:03:58 faze: upgrade 'em all!!!! 09:04:10 in a bit 09:04:40 elliott: i mean, would you have time to look at something in a bit? 09:04:45 clouded_: also, i can give you commit rights on that branch if you want to push stuff up there and i can investigate (the monsters in walls shouldn't be happening in any instance) 09:04:58 clouded_: right i have to go to the doctor's for an hour this minute 09:05:21 faze: probably but I don't know if I'll be helpful :P 09:06:09 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:28 elliott: i just want someone else to make sure i removed spiked flails correctly 09:07:47 face: most people would visit a hospital for that 09:08:03 sorry, faze 09:08:07 mumra: well, elliott claimed he is a doctor 09:11:59 -!- Vizer has joined ##crawl-dev 09:14:53 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:15:51 -!- Vizerr has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:21:21 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:23:32 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Kicked by KickServ] 09:25:05 -!- imantor has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:26:47 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:30:03 * Grunt awakens. 09:36:42 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:31 -!- inspector071 has quit [Quit: inspector071] 09:39:21 hm, I wonder if the hanging is caused by me removing allow_dup from almost all of the vaults 09:39:37 because just going from V:1-4 is okay, they I regen a bit and then it happens 09:40:06 That would make perfect sense. 09:40:36 -!- dspencer has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:41:57 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:28 -!- codile has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 09:44:18 -!- Mottie has joined ##crawl-dev 09:45:51 -!- johnstein has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]] 09:47:35 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:48:43 yeah, looks like that was the problem 09:54:26 -!- mreisz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:57:08 -!- nago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:03:48 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:08:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:11:43 -!- Blade_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:13:54 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:15:22 -!- dspencer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:29:55 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:56 !messages 10:29:56 No messages for bh. 10:30:20 * Grunt pokes bh with a message of distortion. 10:30:27 ack 10:30:33 o/ 10:30:40 I thought you lived in the Abyss anyway. :b 10:30:42 !tell MarvinPA Let me know if you want exp wrath in for 0.12 and I'll see what I can do to polish up the patch 10:30:43 bh: OK, I'll let MarvinPA know. 10:30:45 -!- bh has quit [Client Quit] 10:32:02 do i qualify as marvinpa 10:33:00 Well, you are a Chris. 10:33:04 <_< 10:43:26 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:57 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:08 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:50:43 -!- dspencer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51:43 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:51:46 -!- Blade-_ is now known as Blade- 10:57:33 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:57:45 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:00:42 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:01:25 i'm still not sure why lack of allow_dup vaults would end up causing monsters in walls 11:01:42 -!- Zifmia has quit [] 11:01:51 or even the exceptionally long generation times (so long as there were *some* vaults still with allow_dup, even just 1) 11:02:40 mumra, that sounds like you're unintentionally overwriting parts of the level 11:02:45 in one way or another 11:03:46 Zaba: yes i had that problem the other day. but now clouded_ is getting it for an apparently completely unrelated reason 11:05:04 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:05:51 the debug message log would probably be helpful 11:06:33 yep, that's why i asked him to do a debug build ... see, I have learned from your help the other day ;) 11:08:15 he's appears to have solved it by adding allow_dup back onto some vaults but i can't conceive of any way those problems would be connected 11:08:49 the lack of allow_dup might cause some buggy vault to be picked earlier or more often 11:08:51 for all we know 11:08:59 clouded_: the other thing is that Ctrl-R should actually clear the list of used vaults on that level, so something without allow_dup could still then get used again 11:09:10 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:15 !messages 11:09:16 (1/3) monqy said (11h 52m 7s ago): so pleasuredomes of kulba khan is really good 11:09:20 !messages 11:09:21 (1/2) mumra said (7h 17m 43s ago): re: hangedman_slither (sorry didn't notice before I fell asleep). Right now that won't work well, but ideally I'd automatically fill in the empty areas with wall, and connect up doors next to bits of floor. 11:09:26 !messages 11:09:27 (1/1) mumra said (7h 15m 52s ago): I'm attempting some stuff now to do with inspecting the map features which should solve all other the remaining problems too. This involves hacking maps.cc which is non-trivial so we'll see how it goes. 11:09:42 Zaba: yeah that's the only thing, if it's finally whittling the list down to a badvault (which is probably causing a veto 99% of the times its used) 11:10:15 yes, pleasurdromes is pretty great 11:10:17 -!- dspencer1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:10:51 pleasurdromes? 11:11:28 http://harmonyzone.org/Pleasuredromes.html 11:11:39 btw, i've now done that hacky stuff so i can fully inspect vault features before i place them 11:11:44 hooray 11:11:57 which opens up many possibilities 11:12:13 time to do a few weirdly-connecting box-ruining vaults for nneewwvaults 11:12:24 HangedMan: can i interview you about how ^R is broken 11:12:34 seems to come up pretty often recently! 11:12:51 HangedMan: are those Doom lava textures in that image? 11:13:35 mumra: yes 11:14:12 chrisoelmueller: well you see certain aspects of subvaulting repetition don't really work or else dis:7 would not get absolutely stuck on dis_st after a few generations 11:14:21 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 18.0.1/20130116073211]] 11:14:46 wasn't subvault (un)registration fixed recently 11:15:03 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:15:26 clouded_: the other thing is that Ctrl-R should actually clear the list of used vaults on that level, so something without allow_dup could still then get used again 11:16:00 dad6e4ce9c at least registers them properly 11:16:04 oh yes I remember facing dumb stuff about making things have conditional tags and then the conditional would always have the same results afterwards or something 11:16:17 apparently dgn_erase_unused_vault_placements doesn't know about that 11:16:41 Zaba: it might be because they were placed with reuse_vault that they're not un-placing correctly. reuse_vault keeps throwing up new and wonderful issues. 11:16:50 it's the gift that keeps on giving. 11:17:02 I don't know about reuse_map at all 11:17:06 scary stuff, that 11:17:33 I mean, it's hardly possible to wrap your mind around how normal vault placement works 11:18:38 Zaba: basically it just sets pos, flip and rotation to specific values. then calls vault_placement::draw_at 11:18:58 it's more curious to figure out what it *doesn't* do when compared to normal placement 11:20:13 well, it doesn't try to pick its own position and orientation, which is what normal placement inevitably does 11:22:10 the dgn.place_map function accepts coordinates in its parameters. the vault will probably get placed somewhere near those coords ... 11:23:14 the best way to describe its behaviour is "pin the tail on the donkey" 11:24:30 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:25:16 Zaba: there is one thing i'm noticing with reuse_map. now that i'm passing in true for the register_place and register_vault parameters, i'm still not seeing the vault name when i use x in debug mode. 11:25:45 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:54 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:04 ... and maybe that's related to vaults not getting un-registered 11:26:19 could be 11:26:30 -!- Zermako has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:26:30 -!- [1]Zermako is now known as Zermako 11:26:37 well, you see, the problem is that the existing system was never really designed for your use case 11:27:18 (it was never exactly designed at all, but that's beyond the point at the moment :P) 11:27:50 no :) 11:28:23 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:28:33 but it works surprisingly well, and until this there has only been one actual confirmed bug (that greensnark fixed, to do with monster depth) 11:30:34 I'm not sure if dgn_erase_unused_vault_placements needs to specifically unregister subvaults, but if it needs to, it doesn't at the moment, and that could be a cause of some problems 11:30:49 and just to be sure, you could try to reproduce your bugs outside of ^R 11:31:46 in what other situation should vaults get unregistered? 11:31:54 oh right, i see what you mean 11:32:20 well you're talking to the wrong person, i can't reproduce the bugs at all, not until clouded_ gives me his version of the .des files anyway 11:32:26 ;) 11:33:19 -!- dspencer has quit [Client Quit] 11:36:06 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:36:19 -!- johnthebear has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:38:55 -!- hayenne_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:39:39 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:35 -!- LexAckson has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53:28 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:44 I can do that 11:55:01 also I think it may have been a specific vault that caused it 11:58:26 which was fairly large and I had 3 sides fully walled up 11:59:43 ah yeah, that would cause a bunch of vetos (did you put orient tags on it?) 12:00:07 I did 12:00:32 that could indicate a problem with orient tags not preventing further attachments 12:00:42 clouded_: by the way, how many 0s are you placing in your vaults on average 12:00:44 or do you mean you put tags on after the problems? 12:01:43 Is someone filing these vault bugs 12:01:45 yeah I have noticed the orient seems to not work all the time, like with your enter_the_diamond vault, it got a door on the n or s side, disconnecting a part (I've altered the vault for now) 12:01:56 And if so is there an easy way to find them on Mantis 12:02:09 erase_unused_vault_placements should totally unregister subvaults 12:02:20 HangedMan: I'm using NSUBST: 1 = 1:0 / 2=0. / *:. for ~11x11 and 2:0 / 3=0. (or so) for larger ones 12:02:23 clouded_: i'd hoped i got it working properly but i guess not 12:02:35 hmm 12:02:38 seems fairly rare it happens though 12:02:43 greensnark: these are generally bugs in newnewvaults which isn't in the main repository yet 12:02:50 err, NSUBST: . I meant 12:02:52 greensnark: i am filing bugs in my head 12:03:35 greensnark: oh yeah that one is a general crawl thing. but it might only be the case when vaults are placed with reuse_vault, need to test 12:04:58 and i'm sure i've seen subvaults getting unregistered in the debug messages. just apparently not the primary vaults placed with reuse_vault 12:07:27 greensnark: in fact, all vaults appear to be getting unregistered fine, i just checked. it was just a theory based on what clouded_ was reporting earlier. 12:10:30 Cool 12:10:54 -!- Zermako has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:12:37 actually there does appear to perhaps be a problem with subvaults (as in, placed with a SUBVAULT directive) as Zaba said. some subvaults which were used aren't showing up in the unregister messages when I ctrl-R. 12:14:06 and there is definitely an issue where x doesn't show the names of vaults that i've placed with reuse_map 12:14:10 so, two bugs 12:17:38 So you have a vault in which you place subvaults with reuse_map? 12:17:47 Or is it a layout 12:21:22 -!- Vizer_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:58 -!- Xares has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:22:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 12:22:54 -!- Zermako has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:22:56 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:25:07 -!- dspencer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:25:44 Oh, hey, greensnark. 12:25:52 Something I noticed on account of the new uniques: 12:25:58 !lg * ikiller=lamia x=ckiller 12:25:59 3. [ckiller=a greater naga] moose the Spry (L16 DsWn), worshipper of Makhleb, slain by a greater naga (a +0,+0 halberd) (led by Lamia) on Snake:2 on 2013-01-24 06:01:13, with 144806 points after 35424 turns and 1:49:52. 12:26:04 ...not that one. 12:26:08 !lg * killer=lamia x=ckiller 12:26:08 2. [ckiller=Lamia] Sky the Sorcerer (L14 SpWz), worshipper of Sif Muna, blown up by Lamia on Snake:3 on 2013-01-23 06:57:19, with 52711 points after 39121 turns and 1:26:23. 12:26:12 ... 12:26:23 Apparently someone already got the word along :b 12:26:41 !lg * killer=jorgrun x=ckiller 12:26:41 2. [ckiller=a pandemonium lord] rchandra the Thanatomancer (L19 DsVM), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, blasted by Jorgrun (Lee's Rapid Deconstruction) on Shoals:2 on 2013-01-25 07:18:09, with 263872 points after 52700 turns and 9:21:08. 12:26:47 ...partly. 12:30:03 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=jorgrun x=src,ckiller,killer,ikiller 12:30:04 2. [src=cszo;ckiller=a pandemonium lord;killer=Jorgrun;ikiller=Jorgrun] rchandra the Thanatomancer (L19 DsVM), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, blasted by Jorgrun (Lee's Rapid Deconstruction) on Shoals:2 on 2013-01-25 07:18:09, with 263872 points after 52700 turns and 9:21:08. 12:32:38 <|amethyst> I guess that just means crawl-data.yml needs to be regenerated? 12:33:22 !lg * killer=lamia x=src,ckiller 12:33:23 2. [src=cszo;ckiller=Lamia] Sky the Sorcerer (L14 SpWz), worshipper of Sif Muna, blown up by Lamia on Snake:3 on 2013-01-23 06:57:19, with 52711 points after 39121 turns and 1:26:23. 12:33:40 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=lamia s=ckiller 12:33:41 2 games for * (killer=lamia): 2x Lamia 12:33:44 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=jorgrun s=ckiller 12:33:44 2 games for * (killer=jorgrun): 2x a pandemonium lord 12:33:46 I guess Lamia got kills first... 12:33:50 thank goodness for sky, collecting deaths from the new uniques for you :P 12:33:56 <|amethyst> Lamia got added to crawl-data.yml first 12:34:02 To be fair, Sky wasn't the first to die to Lamia :b 12:34:10 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=lamia s=name 12:34:10 2 games for * (killer=lamia): Sky, gimmethegepgun 12:34:15 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=jorgrun s=name 12:34:16 2 games for * (killer=jorgrun): Sky, rchandra 12:34:32 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:32 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=chaos butterfly 12:34:33 2. Strat the Chopper (L7 MiBe), worshipper of Trog, mangled by a chaos butterfly on Abyss:1 on 2013-01-24 21:32:36, with 970 points after 6728 turns and 0:26:37. 12:34:42 !lg * ikiller=chaos butterfly 12:34:42 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=chaos butterfly s=name,place 12:34:43 4. Strat the Chopper (L7 MiBe), worshipper of Trog, mangled by a chaos butterfly on Abyss:1 on 2013-01-24 21:32:36, with 970 points after 6728 turns and 0:26:37. 12:34:43 2 games for * (killer=chaos_butterfly): bryangamedude (Abyss:1), Strat (Abyss:1) 12:34:50 <|amethyst> !lg * ikiller=chaos butterfly s=name,place 12:34:51 4 games for * (ikiller=chaos_butterfly): bryangamedude (Abyss:1), Strat (Abyss:1), ToastyP (Abyss:2), pwnmonkey (Abyss:1) 12:34:52 !lg * ikiller=chaos butterfly s=name,place 12:34:52 4 games for * (ikiller=chaos_butterfly): bryangamedude (Abyss:1), ToastyP (Abyss:2), Strat (Abyss:1), pwnmonkey (Abyss:1) 12:35:04 !lg * ikiller=chaos butterfly killer!=chaos butterfly s=killer 12:35:04 2 games for * (ikiller=chaos_butterfly killer!=chaos_butterfly): 2x a twister 12:35:07 <|amethyst> !lg * ikiller=tentacled starspawn s=name,place 12:35:07 37 games for * (ikiller=tentacled_starspawn): 9x esfblueriver (5x Abyss:1, 2x Abyss, Abyss:3, Abyss:2), 2x Roshnak (Abyss:1, Abyss:2), 2x tychotesla (2x Abyss), shoop (Abyss:1), ryw (Abyss:1), Pereza0 (Abyss:1), Sky (Abyss:1), sponng (Abyss:1), ophanim (Abyss), Rothbard (Abyss:1), Naibos (Abyss:1), runningboots (Abyss:2), Zenatrul (Abyss), swinepaste (Abyss:1), araganzar (Abyss), mamga (Abyss:1), ... 12:35:30 grunt: by the way, making any progress on chaos butterfly zig pillars 12:35:58 Sprint Highscore list (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6567) by UnknownKirbyMan 12:36:11 ...no <_< 12:36:40 MarvinPA: this one prompted me to not let twisters get spammed :| 12:37:06 maybe twisters from chaos butterflies should have a smaller radius, too 12:37:13 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:37:15 what is the point of them spawning twisters 12:37:38 it's funny? 12:38:03 ok 12:45:25 <|amethyst> the point is the old trope 12:46:06 <|amethyst> a flapping of a butterfly's wings in China being amplified through chaotic processes into a hurricane on the other side of the world 12:47:30 -!- codile has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:53:10 well I meant more gameplay-wise, I knew the flavour 12:53:19 though I still think they shouldn't be called butterflies for gameplay reasons 12:57:32 what do you mean gameplay, isn't flavour the thing around here 12:58:09 what's flavour, isn't it all about theory 12:58:20 yes, this is why i am buffing polyphemus 12:58:35 in whatever myth/story he is from, he stood on shore and threw rocks 12:59:07 i'm hoping that making him HT_LAND will keep him near his band 13:00:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:02:32 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:34 huh? he is HT_LAND 13:03:00 well, giant and huge monsters get changed to HT_AMPHIBIOUS 13:03:13 or whatever the water habitat is 13:04:59 MarvinPA: mon-util.cc:2625 13:05:30 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:06:10 well it's not real amphibious either 13:06:21 but yeah 13:06:31 !tell mumra http://pastie.org/pastes/5860558/text and http://pastie.org/pastes/5860563/text are my .des files (this includes the stuff from vaults_room and _st), metal_show was the vault I think caused bad things (it's commented out) 13:06:32 clouded_: OK, I'll let mumra know. 13:06:36 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 13:08:25 hmm oops 13:08:37 I notice some vaults are tagged vaults_room_empty 13:08:43 no wonder I hadn't been seeing them 13:09:15 clouded_: those actually get placed I think? 13:09:22 it just means they place no monsters 13:09:22 x 13:09:32 the tag is just vaults_empty 13:09:36 ah 13:09:40 that explains it :P 13:10:02 SUBST: 9 = 9990, 0 = 009 13:10:03 they are the ones from the newvaults, I just shortened the old tag and did it wrong 13:10:15 HangedMan: sorry I mangled your vault 13:10:23 yes this is clearly horrible 13:10:31 no connection at all to the zot vault anymore 13:10:48 -!- us17 has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 13:12:07 the hard vaults are too common now I think, should be 50% or so for a single one per floor 13:12:18 then they can be more elaborate 13:12:25 weird vaults that look weird in D and I'm too lazy to figure out git to test the new V layout: http://pastie.org/pastes/5860591/text 13:12:56 HangedMan: good weight there 13:12:59 (ping mumra do anything of these not work) 13:13:03 will those work with v layout? I can test them 13:13:05 chrisoelmueller: testing weights shush 13:13:15 clouded_: well I have no idea so 13:13:24 I mean, slither should 13:13:45 all of them besides stitches and maybe variations probably 13:13:52 hello 13:13:53 mumra: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:14:14 can't have everything be boxes all the time 13:14:28 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:16:46 clouded_: i don't understand your comment "this may need converting into a non-stair vault" on some of them 13:17:22 well they are intended to be entered a certain way 13:18:30 looks to me like they could be entered either from the east or from the stairs? 13:19:21 HangedMan: hangedman_vaults_variations will cause disconnected levels 13:20:12 pah 13:20:50 if you tag a vault "transparent" then it should actually be passable ... otherwise, well, the universe implodes or something 13:21:13 ("transparent" is irrelevant for vaults_rooms anyway, they are all assumed to be transparent) 13:22:30 also, there is probably no point in the orient tags on most of them. you are limiting which walls could have doors on 13:22:56 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20120715100958]] 13:22:57 e.g. hangedman_vaults_stitches would join rooms up in a pleasing way if it had doors on each nodule 13:24:02 I can't seem to get them to generate, though I do like the design 13:24:34 what, hangedman's vaults? DEPTH directives need removing for one thing 13:24:55 quick fix time 13:25:43 also most of them will be causing layout vetoes until i finish off this doors business 13:26:06 <|amethyst> I don't know about this layout, but in general transparent actually isn't a problem for truly-impassible vaults 13:27:25 greensnark: just saw your earlier question. this is the newnewvaults layout - yes it uses reuse_layout to place all the room vaults (which is how i found that depth bug you fixed the other day) 13:27:27 <|amethyst> "transparent" means "don't treat passible things as impassible just because they're in a vault". If something is disconnected it should still cause vetos as usual 13:27:36 http://pastie.org/pastes/5860723/text bleh 13:28:31 |amethyst: ah, true. still in this case, HangedMan has created an impassable vault, which is a problem in itself 13:28:34 I can think of something better to replace _variations but I'll do more stuff later if screwing aronud with stuff like this has to wait 13:30:24 HangedMan: I think this is the sort of design we should be going for generally in subvaults, the way the subvaults link up and connect to each other is perhaps the most interesting thing 13:30:44 so subvaults that aren't stand-alone things work better in the layout 13:31:01 =D 13:33:18 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:37 -!- scrubnub has quit [] 13:36:11 -!- diazepan has quit [Client Quit] 13:38:03 -!- kwel01 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:39:24 HangedMan: http://pastie.org/5860763 http://pastie.org/5860768 13:39:25 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:38 edited floor into the blank spaces 13:40:26 cool 13:41:52 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:42:24 -!- johnthebear has quit [*.net *.split] 13:42:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [*.net *.split] 13:42:24 -!- minqmay has quit [*.net *.split] 13:42:24 -!- simmarine has quit [*.net *.split] 13:42:24 -!- stabwound has quit [*.net *.split] 13:42:26 -!- bonghitz_ is now known as bonghitz 13:45:10 clouded_: i was thinking they should be filled with wall (am determined to get the door support for that done this evening) 13:45:29 could be randomly walls or floor 13:45:53 -!- sky__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:45:53 -!- Spatiation has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:46:18 -!- tophat has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:46:18 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:46:18 -!- Morphy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:46:18 -!- CHOM has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:46:26 if only it could be the edges of vaults 13:46:33 overlapping 13:46:54 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:47:08 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:47:08 -!- mamga has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:47:08 -!- motorbit has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:47:33 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:48:24 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:44 -!- stabwound has quit [Changing host] 13:48:44 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:56 does this look like a reasonable buff for polyphemus? http://dpaste.com/891948/ 13:50:20 in addition, i restricted him from swimming through deep water to keep him near his pack, provided the tide works out 13:51:21 what's the hp increase 13:51:31 105->150 13:51:37 stone giant (15C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 67-107 | AC/EV: 12/2 | Dam: 45 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(85), 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 2036 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 13:51:37 %??stone giant 13:51:43 hmm 13:51:47 speed 10, a stack of 8->12 rocks, hd 15 13:51:50 -!- ghallberg has left ##crawl-dev 13:51:53 mmmm 13:51:56 main attack from 35->50 13:52:00 still boring but at least not pointless 13:52:03 right 13:52:10 should have blink other close 13:52:13 clouded_: hehe 13:52:15 i like it 13:52:19 blink you across water 13:52:41 faze: was that corpse change intentional 13:52:45 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:56 cyclops have clean flesh when other humanoids don't because 13:53:09 enjoying so much of that giant eye, I suppose 13:53:14 because contam chunks should be removed in 0.13 first thing probably 13:53:19 cannot imagine any other reason 13:53:35 HangedMan: In fact arbitrary-shaped rooms shouldn't be too hard now, but let me sort doors properly first 13:53:42 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 13:53:51 -!- mumra_ is now known as mumra 13:53:55 cloublink you into water clearly 13:54:04 fu tab 13:54:05 st_!!!!! doing that nickchange midline was rude 13:54:38 ChrisOelmueller: oh, i actually set the base monster to stone giant, but i'll switch it back to M_CLEAN, thanks 13:54:48 -!- Blade-_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:55:04 CE, rather 13:56:45 -!- helsbecter1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:31 -!- helsbecter has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:57:56 |amethyst: so, no time to mess with 0.11.2 then? If so, I'll do it, so stable fixes get there at least once in a while. 13:58:19 (most users are on Windows, playing official binaries, which get updated only on point releases) 13:58:56 what's the 0.12 schedule by the way 13:59:13 "not yet we need newnewvaults" 13:59:52 -!- mamga_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:00:16 I like how vaults_room_pool[s|] are still named pools even without any water 14:01:05 ChrisOelmueller: somewhen before the spring tournament, but no one knows even the month 14:01:54 HangedMan: perhaps there's a dried out puddle on the floor? 14:02:43 how did the puddle turn into rock half the time 14:04:34 because, uhm, it was pretty dirty, and the sediments piled up all the way to the ceiling 14:05:24 <|amethyst> kilobyte: yeah, I don't think I'll have time :( 14:07:01 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:32 no comments on the 0.11 save compat thing, either? 14:09:59 "such hacks are too ugly to live" would be a valid answer, too 14:11:41 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:12:30 -!- diazepan has quit [Quit: diazepan] 14:12:58 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:27 does this changelog make sense? http://sprunge.us/TVNC 14:28:48 -!- sky___ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:28:59 s|behave right|behave correctly| 14:34:00 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:08 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:37:16 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes is now known as HangedMan 14:41:27 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 14:44:50 cyprian (L1 KoAK) ASSERT(!at_branch_bottom()) in 'stairs.cc' at line 533 failed. (Abyss (Sprint)) 14:53:30 -!- yalue has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:02:30 Polyphemus Buffs (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6568) by pivotal 15:08:32 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:09:38 i'm not convinced making meph drown polyphemus again is a good buff 15:09:50 oh right 15:09:58 nor having a giant behave differently from any other giant 15:10:11 yeah 15:10:16 well, i guess he could keep his aquaticness 15:10:22 i'll upload a new patch 15:12:08 just bumping up his speed and stats is probably decent anyway, yeah 15:16:28 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:37 -!- helsbecter1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:19:15 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:19:53 MarvinPA: i uploaded a new patch that restores polyphemus' swimming abilities 15:20:51 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:27:23 blink other, I'm telling you 15:27:47 03kilobyte 07[stone_soup-0.11] * 0.11.2: Changelog for 0.11.2 10(44 minutes ago, 1 file, 13+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=87fb58c09b18 15:27:49 how about reflavour polyphemus as a vampire knight 15:27:53 and nobody will kill him now 15:27:56 so we have a vampire knight unique 15:28:00 [studio audience laughter] 15:28:11 well I guess jory isn't necessarily a knight 15:28:25 he's a vampire noble 15:28:43 hah 15:28:54 st_: can you fix those vault redefinitions by the way 15:28:58 I almost did it in vampire patch but gave up 15:29:14 it's on the todo(tm) 15:30:14 -!- helsbecter has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:22 -!- Elkan has quit [Quit: Quitte] 15:30:23 st_: is the todo item "remove every vault monster" 15:30:40 the pointless ones anyway 15:31:31 a good part of these should go, yeah 15:31:39 a good 100% 15:32:12 same for uniques -- especially ones with nothing but a race and a few run of the mill spells 15:35:44 Lamia (06N) | Spd: 8 (act: 80%) | HD: 18 | HP: 77-122 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 40, 1203(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, 04eats corpses, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 2356 | Sp: destruction orb (8d16), mesmerise, haste, toxic radiance, teleport self | Sz: Large | Int: high. 15:35:44 %??lamia 15:35:52 hi 15:35:57 yes, uniques are well known for being hyper rare gimmicks with messy spoiler issues 15:36:12 that are usually barely differentiated at all 15:36:27 the likes of Polyphemus, Frederick, Norris, Harold, Lamia, Jorgrun, yeah 15:36:49 in what universe is shatter and lrd run of the mill spells 15:36:56 are shatter 15:37:13 well to be fair, I think mesmerise + band of greater nagas is pretty interesting 15:37:26 she just has a bunch of other stuff 15:37:30 harold and frederick are pretty good at the very least 15:37:36 they are unique dangerous threats where they appear 15:37:51 well, harold is dangerous pre-lair and lair 15:38:22 harold is consistently scary 15:38:24 put Tiamat on D:2 and she'll get more scary than anything else 15:38:34 frederick not so much but that's the way later-game works 15:38:38 what's that supposed to mean 15:38:50 (at least Tiamat can't be accused of being uninteresting, even with her magnificent spell set) 15:39:42 elliott: I mean, being scary vs non-scary is a matter of a single number range: the depth the given unique is allowed to spawn on 15:39:48 so a purposefully streamlined monster is just like putting around oods 15:39:52 good 15:39:54 to know 15:40:15 what in the world has bolt of fire pre-lair and lair besides erolcha 15:40:55 note what in your opinion makes him interesting: that he has a big spell and spawns pre-lair 15:41:19 -!- Psyknux has quit [Quit: My work is end \(^o^)/] 15:41:36 and why is this bad 15:41:43 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:16 -!- CedorDark has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:42:27 dracoomega did you know that making hundreds of starcursed masses meld together means that random turns they explode into like eight different masses 15:42:36 from a single mass 15:42:40 What? 15:43:20 also I wonder if there's an hp cap or something I'll hit for repeatedly melding these together 15:43:34 If there is, I imagine it's quite high 15:43:48 I don't know if Crawl enforces one generally 15:43:58 -!- Zifmia has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:44:01 But don't twisters have something like 10,000? 15:44:10 time to start macroing 15:45:28 twister hp is about as relevant as: 15:45:29 @??orb of destruction 15:45:29 orb of destruction (16*) | Spd: 30 | HD: 5 | HP: 1000 | AC/EV: 0/10 | 11non-living, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 08acid, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm++ | XP: 0 | Sz: little | Int: plant. 15:47:48 Well, relevant in terms of internal representation 15:48:08 Meaning that values that high are at least not truncated somehow 15:48:13 can't define anything with more then hp:10000 for some reason 15:48:14 hp is saved as a 16 bit signed number 15:48:50 Well, that doesn't mean that some stuff isn't rounded off. Speed, for example, does nothing above like... 30 or so? 15:49:10 Well, in most circumstances 15:49:38 HangedMan: Well, I made as mass with 16170 max hp here now :P 15:49:53 Formed from 1296 pieces 15:50:34 However I don't see it splitting an any more explosive a fashion than you'd expect 15:50:59 huh 15:52:48 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:53:48 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:55:33 ...also, I thought there was a limit to monsters on a level since &R limits it 15:56:37 oh. at the cap you just get constant "You see a puff of smoke" messages 15:57:08 -!- odjn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:03:22 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:04:35 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1826-gde8e34e: Fix god-forbidden items not being recoloured 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=de8e34e7afb7 16:05:08 yay, thanks marvinpa 16:05:27 -!- motorbit_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:07:08 -!- mamga has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:07:17 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11.2-0-g87fb58c (33) 16:07:33 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:07:33 -!- sky__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:07:58 -!- zardo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:07:58 -!- Sobieck has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:07:58 -!- mreisz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:08:11 Stable (0.11) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.11.2-0-g87fb58c 16:08:32 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:08:32 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:08:32 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:08:32 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:08:38 -!- rkd has quit [] 16:08:48 -!- tophat has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:09:13 -!- Blade- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:09:13 -!- collapse_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:09:18 -!- Blade-_ is now known as Blade- 16:09:34 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10:17 -!- scummos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13:40 -!- ldf_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:18:17 -!- Leissi has quit [Quit: Praise the Sun!] 16:21:47 -!- iasov has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:39:04 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:43:59 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:52:46 -!- hayenne has quit [Quit: There is no dark side of the moon really. 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i was going to write a script to check xp values, but i got bored and did something else 18:32:23 unknown monster: "stone gianty" 18:32:23 %??stone gianty 18:32:25 stone giant (15C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 67-107 | AC/EV: 12/2 | Dam: 45 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(85), 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 2036 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 18:32:25 %??stone giant 18:32:38 i guess that is a reasonable amount 18:32:49 Ilsuiw (09m) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 16 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 5/18 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, amphibious, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(149), 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 2583 | Sp: throw icicle (3d25), call tide, invisibility, blink, water elementals | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 18:32:49 %??ilsuiw 18:32:59 hah, maybe not 18:33:01 death yaks and polyphemus combined 18:33:06 probably give too much 18:33:14 by the way somebody nerf rakshasa experience 18:33:16 i thought spells are supposed to raise the diff mod? 18:33:53 death yak (08Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 54-97 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 30 | Res: 06magic(93) | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 1059 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 18:33:53 %??death yak 18:33:59 Ilsuiw kills people dead, Polyphemus was total popcorn -- I guess after the bump he's still moderately easy. 18:34:05 yeah 18:34:18 ilsuiw should really give more xp, or polyphemus less 18:34:51 I guess a good part of Ilsuiw's difficulty are her groupies (aquamancers and impalers) 18:35:12 and those dang water elementals 18:35:41 elementals are a summon, and thus included into Ilsuiw 18:35:44 ah, right 18:35:56 a good part of her difficulty is shoals:5 is it being an open floor where everything is fast 18:35:56 rakshasa (08R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 39-73 | AC/EV: 10/14 | Dam: 20 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(133), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1073 | Sp: rakshasa summon, blink, invisibility, teleport self | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 18:35:56 %??rakshasa 18:36:00 yeah, ilsuiw on her own is not especially threatening 18:36:02 (ie, not included, because only some spells count) 18:36:06 -!- dspencer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:36:15 rakshasas are not hydra xp worthy 18:36:18 -!- bryangamedude has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:36:39 i guess the combination of 20% more speed, 50% more exp, 4 more HD, and 15 more max dmg, polyphemus got a huge exp bump 18:37:02 let's see how well he kills 18:37:15 the polyphemus xp doesn't seem that unreasonable to me really 18:37:21 yeah 18:37:45 he does quite a bit more damage with those rocks now 18:38:43 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40:28 -!- bryangamedude_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:40:57 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:46:05 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:28 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:49:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:59:48 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:03:44 -!- dspencer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:07:54 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:10:41 -!- Pthing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11:24 -!- wh1te has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:11:32 -!- wh1te has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:52 -!- Zermako has quit [] 19:25:51 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:34:06 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Quit: Dain's default quit message] 19:39:41 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:40:52 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:41:28 -!- nfrcr has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:41:35 -!- Ryak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:42:28 -!- ZenArcade has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0/20120830123745]] 19:43:43 -!- Wehk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:25 success! 19:45:42 doors should link up to empty squares correctly 100% of the time now 19:46:16 ... whatever HangedMan throws at it :) 19:46:36 -!- peppermilne has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:46:56 Does this fix the corner door issue, or is that something seperate? 19:47:06 corner doors also fixed 19:47:25 Yay! 19:47:29 :) 19:47:30 Good going :) 19:48:05 mumra: so all those vaults in the pastie a a bunch of hours back work? 19:48:16 well, "work" 19:48:25 yup 19:48:36 -!- peppermilne has quit [Client Quit] 19:48:41 they will get door connections wherever there are floor tiles 19:48:56 potentially at least 19:50:06 it's even safe to use SUBST, KFEAT and other transformations on edge tiles, the analysis is done after those are performed (but before the vault is placed, so it can still match an open square of the room up with the door) 19:50:53 wonderful 19:52:12 does it scan for @s yet 19:52:15 it's been really hard, basically taken me at least half of today, but everything should Just Work now 19:52:17 that sounds exciting(?) 19:52:34 elliott: no not yet but that's actually easy now 19:53:08 i don't know if i can do anything today tho, my brain has melted. i just want to spend a few hours hitting Ctrl-R ;) 19:55:12 no no no 19:55:24 first you have to take a million maps with my vaults in them 19:56:56 hehe 19:57:03 i am ready for a million maps 19:57:41 -!- Ryak has quit [Client Quit] 19:58:27 and copy them all down 19:58:48 can you dictate them character by character 19:59:01 -!- dspencer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:59:33 make them into spoken word poems 20:01:32 -!- dspencer has quit [Client Quit] 20:01:43 -!- bryangamedude has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:02:34 they would be laden with double entendre 20:02:34 -!- Ryak has quit [Client Quit] 20:02:47 because "xxxxxxx" starts to sound like "sex sex sex sex" when you keep saying it 20:05:32 you're not pausing enough between each character 20:05:32 -!- dieseltime has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07:34 clearly my poetry skill is not high enough level 20:10:54 it takes forever to understand manuals of poetry though 20:14:36 :) 20:15:42 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 20:15:57 anyway this effectively means i consider newnewvaults mergable now. i need to make a few finishing touches but all the issues are fixed. and more vaults are needed of course ;) 20:16:41 Any more demo maps for us people out here to peruse, that show off the new stylishness? :) 20:19:22 the layouts don't look hugely different, just no more doors in silly places 20:19:35 Fair enough 20:19:37 you can always get the branch if you want to see it first hand :) 20:19:41 This is good though! 20:19:43 Yeah, yeah :P 20:21:11 -!- ZenArcade has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:12 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:24:42 Should be some fun new stuff tomorrow though once I've done these finishing touches and integrated st_'s work and hangedman's maps 20:25:53 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:18 -!- dspencer has quit [Client Quit] 20:40:02 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:49:46 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:00:00 -!- Sobieck has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:00:23 -!- inspector071 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:01:02 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:11:56 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:12:02 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:12:03 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:07 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:15 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:15:47 -!- mamga has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:16:21 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:18 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:25:58 -!- varmin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26:38 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 21:27:56 -!- dspencer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:30:28 -!- diazepan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:36:20 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:46:11 -!- ZenArcade has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0/20120830123745]] 21:49:04 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:50:09 -!- diazepan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:50:46 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:58:44 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:00:12 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:57 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 22:05:51 -!- BlackSheep_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:16 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1831-g8e59df1 22:10:57 -!- TEMPTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:16 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 22:16:28 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:27 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:02 !messages 22:23:03 No messages for bh. 22:23:20 !send bh a gateway out of the Abyss 22:23:21 Sending a gateway out of the Abyss to bh. 22:23:32 !abyss Grunt 22:23:32 bh casts a spell. Grunt is devoured by a tear in reality! 22:23:38 ha 22:23:41 * Grunt escapes from the Abyss! 22:24:35 I was hoping Marvin had seen my question about wrath 22:25:15 oh yeah, i did 22:25:20 i thought i replied but i guess not! 22:25:34 but yeah it's something i'm fairly keen on trying out 22:25:38 Ask (again) and yee shall receive? 22:25:40 s/yee/ye/ 22:25:47 -!- Dixbert has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:25:52 What discussion is this? 22:26:22 changing wrath for all gods to expire based on xp gain, like ash's currently does 22:26:32 Oh, right. 22:26:38 The idea does intrigue me. 22:26:40 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 22:27:13 I think the patch should work, apart from not decreasing wrath for things like ely destroying weapons 22:27:15 It feels more like, "you're still making progress despite everything I'm throwing at you; better leave you alone..." 22:27:21 ash wrath definitely works well and time-based wrath definitely doesn't, at least :P 22:27:34 * Grunt sends monsters to punish you! 22:29:40 -!- BlackSheep_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31:18 !send Grunt monsters to punish him! 22:31:19 Sending monsters to punish him! to Grunt. 22:31:23 oops. 22:31:45 !send punish_him! bh monsters 22:31:46 Sending bh monsters to punish_him!. 22:32:02 unknown monster: "bh monster" 22:32:02 %??bh monster 22:32:29 bh monster (11X) | Spd: 8 | HD: 100 | HP: 502-601 | AC/EV: 5/5 | Dam: 45, 35 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(800), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: spawn tentacles | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 22:32:29 %??tentacled starspawn hd:100 name:bh_monster n_rpl n_des 22:32:33 <_< 22:32:42 I'm worth a lot of XP. 22:32:46 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 11437 | Sp: b.fire (3d40), polymorph other, fireball (3d43) | Sz: little | Int: normal. 22:32:46 %??orb of fire 22:43:06 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:44:44 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 22:47:36 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:48:56 -!- Ashenden has quit [] 22:49:12 -!- Xelf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:49:54 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:55:11 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 22:59:14 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:02:25 -!- mamga has quit [Client Quit] 23:07:46 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:10:50 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:25:03 -!- sky__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:40:11 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:46:51 -!- Staplegun has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:50:54 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:52:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:59:38 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]