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Like, they don't try to fire bolt spells in a way that hits a bunch of targets, if they can, do they? They just kinda pick targets at random and just veto shots if they would hurt their allies too much? 06:07:23 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 06:07:26 Note that I'm not suggesting it should be! I'm just wondering if there's already a provision that should make a spell I'm trying to code easier 06:08:26 -!- scummos has quit [Client Quit] 06:10:17 -!- archl has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121129165506]] 06:13:46 DracoOmega: while I'm probably biased by the "author of a hammer" effect, what about moving beam tracers to a hitfunc as well? That'd make adding new spells with complex targetting easy. 06:14:48 I'm really not familiar with the beam code much at all. I'm just poking my head into it now. 06:14:53 ie, in the tracer, AFF_YES would add the full estimated damage, AFF_MAYBE a part (it could be even a real probability calculation), and the monster would aim whatever it does the most damage to its foes 06:15:49 I'm not sure that teaching monsters to maximize their destructive power is that good a thing, though. The game is kind of balanced around the idea that they often don't act nearly as effective as they theoretically could 06:16:15 Hence why annihilators will sometimes choose to poke you with a dagger instead of casting crystal spear every turn 06:18:48 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:55 What I'm trying to do has enough unique targeting requirements for the AI that I probably have to code it all myself, anyway 06:19:59 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Client Quit] 06:20:23 Since it ideally wants to aim a certain distance away from itself, in a way that hits something yet has the bolt terminate at an open space, and that doesn't aim at a spot too far away from the player 06:20:42 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:22:52 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:23:48 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 06:26:22 -!- zz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:36:17 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:39:37 a more wild idea: what if we used monster's intelligence? Only those with I_HIGH would try to hit multiple enemies with a single bolt, use lightning bounces, etc. 06:40:19 Does that not include a lot of enemies with the most dangerous spells in the first place? 06:40:20 I_NORMAL would try to avoid friendly fire, animals would just aim at their designated foe and fire if there's nothing in the way 06:40:28 yes :p 06:42:10 it's more about non-beam spells, I guess 06:42:37 there's no concept of "just aim at the mon->foe" there 06:45:29 wll this fix/ruin monsters trying to cast hexes through monsters 06:54:16 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:02 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:15:18 -!- rchandra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:21:59 -!- archl has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121129165506]] 07:25:42 -!- zz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:29:36 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 07:31:58 -!- raistware has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:36:21 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 07:38:43 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:47:00 -!- Zifmia_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:48:48 -!- Galefury_ is now known as Galefury 07:50:30 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:53:14 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 07:55:05 -!- Galefury has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:56:59 -!- vogonpoet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:57:57 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 08:01:42 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 08:11:24 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:11:42 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:12:06 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:14:09 so the polearm baileys seem to almost all define loot which can be good bar one which is pretty bad, while the axe baileys use good_item and are mostly bad bar one which defines stuff and is also less gimmicky and supposedly good 08:14:43 Yes, some baileys do have extremely underwhelming loot 08:15:00 I don't think good_item is very good to use too much 08:15:29 Because it's often not very good? (I don't know how that works) 08:16:11 well, it has an innate constant value compared to * and |, but that value usually seems like not much better then floor items 08:16:24 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 08:16:39 portal vaults having constant depths makes * reliably good or bad and wouldn't defining loot constantly be more balanced and flavourful anyway 08:16:54 altogether a headache 08:17:56 Certainly those couple baileys that have loot so poor that, by the end, you're not even sure if they HAD loot, would be nice if they were buffed 08:18:41 I wish there were vault devs besides the intermittently present evilmike 08:18:42 to consult 08:19:01 He does seem to have been gone a while 08:20:09 But I mean, I think I have sometimes gotten wonderful stuff like a choko and a scroll of immolation as my 'prize' 08:20:38 1learn add good_item 08:20:50 -!- Pikkle has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:21:01 If the maps in question are considered too easy to give better stuff than that, I'd probably rather just make them harder and also make them give better stuff 08:21:29 baileys are kind of frustratingly variant in their threats, so sure 08:21:36 bloody orc warlord bailey 08:21:42 That's my favorite! 08:22:33 I mean, I can rarely actually kill the warlord by the time I run into it, but that's okay 08:23:01 I just dislike the spoilers around recognizing the vault and threat and loot 08:24:36 While being familiar with the map does let you know that it has harder monsters in it, I'm not sure that's a huge problem. It doesn't exactly dump you in the middle of terrible danger with warnings you could only avoid is spoiled 08:24:50 I mean, I think the elf bailey is probably more dangerous from an unspoiled perspective 08:26:20 clearly I am just from too far a future where every single vault ever needs to randomize everything so that spoilers can be spat at 08:26:29 -!- brownlee has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:26:59 -!- Pikkle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:12 I think that's sort of impossible 08:28:33 -!- Pikkle has quit [Client Quit] 08:28:34 Random elements are nice, but unless they're really, really random, spoiled players will still have hints and understand the range of things 08:28:51 And once you get sufficiently random, you're sort of out of vault territory again 08:29:18 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 08:30:03 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 08:30:07 ranges are better than constants 08:33:02 -!- Soadreqm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:33:06 Yes 08:34:51 -!- 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eb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:33:38 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:55 -!- Dedagen has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:41:10 HangedMan: you want superb_item (|) not good_item(*) 09:41:17 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:41:30 can still produce crap 09:41:33 what 09:41:43 * is supposed to be seperated from "good_item" 09:42:06 * is even called "star_item" somewhere 09:42:32 also |s have a kind of rather high average quality even with clunkers 09:42:37 to further disinform the enemy, MAKE_GOOD_ITEM is superb_item not good_item 09:42:56 why would you do that 09:42:58 :( 09:43:01 ??goodcode 09:43:02 goodcode[1/1]: beem.is_beam = false 09:43:24 also, wrt bailey spoilage, what should probably happen is that stuff can be wildly different in threat but have similar layouts 09:43:34 then you always have to assume you are about to die horribly 09:44:03 layout variation with the limits of baileys is kind of something I'd rather keep rather then enemy variation 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has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:10:26 -!- minced has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:11:17 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:16:08 <|amethyst> Re: 6468, is there any point to the using the $variable config syntax now that you can't set variables before the default init? 20:16:19 <|amethyst> s/the using the/using the/ 20:16:29 I doubt so 20:16:53 lemme push some stuff, though, for less conflicts 20:17:33 <|amethyst> my connection is too flaky for me to actually do any work, so do what you like :) 20:22:12 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:23:25 hrm, I'd have to finish this part, it's quite entangled 20:24:09 I already unified several prefixes -- including changes to colours, but not all 20:24:17 kilobyte: can I remove halflings or should I get back to configuring my server? 20:25:42 |amethyst: do you like halfbold, kobling, or hobold best? 20:26:33 uglylittlebugger 20:27:06 -!- Dixbert_ is now known as Dixbert 20:27:09 kilobyte: ugly thing race? :) 20:28:31 <|amethyst> bh: How about Hobo Demi-Bold 20:28:49 |amethyst: are demi-gods on the chopping block too?? 20:28:53 <|amethyst> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobo_(typeface) 20:29:53 * bh groans 20:30:00 That's an *awful* face 20:32:20 |amethyst: bembo is where it's at. 20:33:03 <|amethyst> sexist 20:34:46 alright I'm having trouble compiling crawl 0.11.0 on this machine 20:35:07 Insomniak`: what is the machine? 20:35:13 ppc mac 20:36:02 goodluck :) neunon is probably best equipped to answer your questions. 20:36:32 gcc-4.0: Invalid arch name : Power 20:36:32 make[2]: *** [adler32.o] Error 1 20:36:33 make[1]: *** [zlib] Error 2 20:36:33 make: *** [.contrib-libs] Error 2 20:37:14 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:38:19 |amethyst: I am interested in a rock swimming race. Could we make something that could step into walls but not step out on the other side? (and not go any deeper for risk of suffocation) 20:38:41 bh: [g]nomes, you mean? 20:38:59 nomes <3 20:39:01 kilobyte: sure, but they don't exist? 20:39:22 there's a branch for them! 20:39:23 check a branch named "nomes" :) 20:39:27 ah 20:40:06 the main stumbling block are autoexplore issues 20:41:07 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:13 can nomes walk through thickness-1 walls? 20:42:42 up to thickness 2 in this implementation 20:43:12 if nomes get in before lava orcs i'll just (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ 20:44:01 lava gorcs 20:45:16 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:45:22 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:45:26 Eronarn: don't worry, we'll add djinn and four golem races before nomes first :p 20:49:05 -!- ponies has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:52:14 -!- ophanim has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:52:47 kilobyte: paper golem, has to choose whether to read scrolls or repair self with them 20:54:44 !abyss eronarn 20:54:45 bh casts a spell. eronarn is devoured by a tear in reality! 20:55:00 !abyss Henzell 20:55:01 bh casts a spell. Henzell is devoured by a tear in reality! 20:56:42 how about a species that starts as an @ and then through the magic of unicode gets extra shit added on 20:57:27 Warthog people with Trufflesense. It's like detect-stuff-you-can't-see, but only for food! 20:57:49 bh: still want to see my felid idea get in: they start as kittens, and with each death, they molt to a larger size 20:57:58 until they're gigantic lions bigger than ogres 20:58:07 Eronarn: cats don't molt. 20:58:22 -!- ZRN has quit [] 20:58:23 bh: not sure if one would want to eat truffles found in Pan :p 20:58:33 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:58:36 bh: exactly 20:58:48 that's why it's a good idea 20:58:50 it adds flavor! 20:59:04 we don't have any plant races. 20:59:17 Eronarn: sounds like that Fiend race idea. Start spriggan-sized, end up around Doom2's cyberdemon. 20:59:37 there was also the insectoid race, with castes of some kind 20:59:54 Eronarn: that four-armed D&D thing? 21:00:32 Mycelian, produces spores when you hit it? 21:01:02 kilobyte: thri-kreen - but not necessarily those, no 21:01:02 -!- wasd22 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:01:29 what i had been thinking was you begin the game as a larval form and then get to fork off, maybe in a given game make two decisions as to your development 21:01:50 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:02:23 -!- Pikkle has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:03:08 -!- wasd22_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:04:20 treefolk would be great but i think they'd work better as a monster race 21:08:46 so uncrawl related: what will make my life suck less: postfix or exim4? 21:08:53 -!- Blade- has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:09:23 postfix, from what i hear 21:11:05 postfix has a bunch of surprising issues that feel like WTF ones to me 21:11:41 it's been many years since I last looked at it, though, so they might be fixed already 21:13:03 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:11 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 21:23:02 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:33:42 -!- Vizer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34:02 -!- Vizer has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:27 -!- Luxivar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:23 -!- ponies has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:41:22 -!- Oddtwang has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:55:16 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 21:57:42 finally. 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