00:00:50 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1417-gf41d6fb (34) 00:01:00 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1417-gf41d6fb (34) 00:07:40 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1417-gf41d6fb 00:28:52 -!- Nabski has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:32:19 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 00:35:02 -!- mcevers has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:44:36 -!- morik has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:45:23 -!- Dedagen has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:50:52 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:02:40 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:06:00 -!- Datul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21:07 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:55 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:36:48 -!- Crazylemon64 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:41:44 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 01:49:06 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 01:58:36 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:02:11 -!- shirish has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:04:37 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:08:18 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:14:16 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:25 -!- DaneiTWO has quit [] 02:24:48 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:31:08 -!- Dedagen has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:41:23 -!- Crazylemon64 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:42:44 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:51:09 -!- rchandra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:51:45 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:06:35 -!- aleksil has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:32 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:35 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:58 LRD autotargeting seems slightly bugy in trunk: it doesn't differentiate between plants and monsters. 03:10:56 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:15:20 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:17:32 -!- bza has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:18:25 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:20:44 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:25:36 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:26:34 -!- Misder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:27:08 -!- Dedagen has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:28:33 Kudos for the improved LRD targeting, by the way. The annoyance I feel when it doesn't work properly really highlights how massively convenient it is when it does. 03:33:53 -!- Dedagen has quit [Client Quit] 03:42:28 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:56:39 -!- Zifmia_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:01:13 -!- vogonpoet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:09:14 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:11:56 -!- bleak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:12:13 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:13:46 -!- KaminaSquirtle has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:15:40 -!- animegrampa has quit [Read error: No route to host] 04:19:59 -!- yxhuvud2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:22:38 -!- bakaflockaflame has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:24:23 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:58 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:29:31 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:30:26 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:31:57 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:32:20 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:34:12 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:34:25 -!- Zifmia has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:46:08 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:53:04 -!- hurdos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56:25 -!- domiryuu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:04 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1417-gf41d6fb 05:20:37 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:27:42 -!- tkappleton1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:29:58 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:37:14 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:38:02 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 05:38:09 -!- Pthing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:38:41 -!- aleksil has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:57:17 -!- Dixbert has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:59:07 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:06:56 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 06:08:46 -!- tkappleton1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:19:29 -!- yxhuvud2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:35:30 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:38:47 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 06:52:21 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:52:34 -!- Duke- has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 06:54:43 -!- Zifmia_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:54:48 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2] 07:00:04 -!- stenno has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:11 -!- stenno has quit [Changing host] 07:04:30 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:05:46 -!- Zifmia_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:08:43 -!- Zifmia has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:12:28 -!- ktgrey has quit [] 07:18:06 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:20:08 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:20:47 -!- shirish has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:20:57 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:28:42 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:48:41 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:50:57 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Kicked by KickServ] 07:52:12 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:54:59 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 07:55:31 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:12:28 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 08:13:10 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:14:03 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:15:42 -!- zenzei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:17:08 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:19:21 -!- yxhuvud2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:19:50 -!- Shadow1798 is now known as Schwer-Muta 08:34:07 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:51:45 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:54:50 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:01:24 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:01:32 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:02:26 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:13:39 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:14:09 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 09:17:36 -!- brainsoup has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:18:01 -!- vogonpoet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:19:48 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:25:33 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:30:31 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Butts] 09:35:26 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:39:00 -!- fernandotakai has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:39:00 -!- LoremIpsum_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:42:24 !nick players-for-areyousureyouwanttonwin 09:42:24 No nick mapping for players-for-areyousureyouwanttonwin. 09:42:25 No nick mapping for players-for-areyousureyouwanttonwin. 09:42:39 !nick players-for-areyousureyouwanttowin 09:42:39 Mapping players-for-areyousureyouwanttowin => poncheis elynae clouded hangedman elliott monqy squarelos ebarrett absolutego 09:42:40 Mapping players-for-areyousureyouwanttowin => poncheis elynae clouded hangedman elliott monqy squarelos ebarrett absolutego 09:53:30 -!- Wah has quit [Quit: IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT'S BACON!] 09:56:33 -!- Pikkle has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:57:19 15039 | Lair:1 | XOM: polymorph jackal -> jackal 10:02:20 -!- tkappleton1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:05:41 -!- DaneiTWO has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:06:46 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:27 -!- kek has quit [Quit: switch] 10:10:02 -!- DaneiTHREE has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:10:49 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11:59 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:12:39 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:23 -!- kek has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:17:59 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:47 -!- yxhuvud2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:30:47 -!- pantaril has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:36:14 -!- Kromgart has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:45:56 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:47:00 -!- Kromgart has quit [Client Quit] 10:48:36 -!- Kromgart has quit [Client Quit] 10:48:40 -!- Dedagen has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:50:23 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:52:37 -!- nita has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:53:23 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:54:29 -!- pantaril has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:57:18 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:58:32 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:00 -!- nooodl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:18:14 _The floor slides away as you move beside it! 11:20:30 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:21:33 -!- scummos has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:22:48 bring back floor mimics 11:22:48 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:23:37 -!- Vizer has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:58 the floor, spattered with blood can slide away too 11:31:22 Ereshkigal (16&) | Spd: 14 | HD: 18 | HP: 350 | AC/EV: 10/30 | Dam: 4013(drain) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(240), 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: b.cold (3d27), silence, greater demon, torment symbol, paralyse, major healing | Sz: Large | Int: high. 11:31:22 %??ereshkigal 11:31:27 Mnoleg (09&) | Spd: 13 | HD: 17 | HP: 350 | AC/EV: 10/25 | Dam: 3509(mutation), 2306(blink self) | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: eyeballs, smiting (7-17), malign gateway, horrible things | Sz: Large | Int: high. 11:31:27 %??mnoleg 11:32:37 who wants RNG gods? https://gitorious.org/~coldpie/crawl/coldpie-crawl/commits/rng-gods 11:32:43 not ready for merge, but ready for discussion, i think 11:33:09 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:34:20 random number god gods 11:35:06 see 536ffd963 11:36:31 would rename the PIETY part, looks like piety cost too much imo 11:36:54 doesn't help that it's very close to the actual cost line either 11:37:24 to what? PIETY_LEVEL? LEVEL? 11:41:38 to test it in game, you can (try to find an altar out of temple or) &_rng 11:43:57 hm, it's not compiling for me 11:44:13 In file included from ctest.cc:27: 11:44:13 that's no good 11:44:13 ng-init.h:10: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'rng_god_power' with no type 11:44:13 ng-init.h:10: error: expected ',' or '...' before '*' token 11:45:47 building clean and ctest.o built for me 11:45:56 g++ (GCC) 4.7.2 11:47:04 <|amethyst> ng-init.h doesn't define rng_god_power anywhere 11:47:14 <|amethyst> it should be including the relevant header 11:47:21 ColdPie: git status 11:47:24 maybe you have unadded files? 11:48:33 nah, i did clean -fdqx 11:51:01 if you include rng-god-func.h at the top of ng-init.h, does it build? 11:51:30 was just trying that, it got further! new error now :P 11:51:47 <|amethyst> I make ctest.o does work for me 11:51:54 <|amethyst> gcc 4.6 11:54:27 i wonder why it built for me. it's clearly correct to include the header 11:54:56 <|amethyst> hm 11:55:45 <|amethyst> ColdPie: oh 11:55:56 <|amethyst> ColdPie: you're compiling without debug 11:56:04 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:05 <|amethyst> ColdPie: so that #include in ctest.cc never happens 11:56:06 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:56:18 ah 11:56:18 aha yeah, i'm doing make debug 11:57:26 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:49 "make debug" builds for me. what error are you getting MarvinPA? 11:59:57 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 12:00:22 <|amethyst> it would happen if you turn on DEBUG_TESTS or DEBUG_DIAGNOSTICS 12:00:30 <|amethyst> so maybe only make FULLDEBUG=y 12:00:36 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:00:49 * ColdPie wishes he had more than 2 cores 12:00:50 Type of arg 1 to push must be array (not hash element) at util/rng-god-data.pl line 214, near "$up)" 12:00:50 Execution of util/rng-god-data.pl aborted due to compilation errors. 12:01:01 i got that when doing make debug 12:01:05 after fixing the header 12:01:07 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:42 <|amethyst> that looks like it should be @{$obj->{$field}} 12:02:29 this was the first i've worked with perl, so i'll defer to you 12:02:31 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:02:38 works for me with perl 5.16.2 12:03:56 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:01 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:05:42 <|amethyst> doesn't work in Perl 5.12, and I'm kind of surprised it works in later versions 12:06:15 Lava orcs for .12 in '12 (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6463) by Eronarn 12:07:38 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:39 -!- edlothiol has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:09:15 okay repushed with those two fixes 12:09:22 -!- aleksil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:32 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:11:14 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:34 -!- ussdefiant_ is now known as ussdefiant 12:13:08 <|amethyst> ColdPie: did you do that as a rebase? 12:13:25 <|amethyst> ah, yes 12:13:52 yeah, don't build on this branch :P 12:16:15 <|amethyst> as far asthe name of the "PIETY:" tag, maybe "LEVEL:" or "BREAKPOINT:" 12:16:16 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:16:45 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:17:36 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:55 i think breakpoint might be best. it matches the code better 12:21:34 -!- yxhuvud2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:25:18 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26:17 -!- Fusha has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:26:49 <|amethyst> ColdPie: and as kilobyte has pointed out, http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0012.html 12:27:05 so the big thing i got stuck on was passive powers and piety gain 12:29:09 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 12:29:43 seems like you'd have to add hooks all over the code and do a if(rng god has this piety gain mechanism) 12:29:47 which strikes me as ugly 12:32:10 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:52 <|amethyst> that's kind of how existing piety gain works :/ 12:32:59 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2] 12:33:18 That's how a lot of stuff works. 12:33:21 :/ 12:33:34 Too many different possible aciton. 12:33:37 actions* 12:33:58 but it would be cool to have all kinds of hook methods so you could hook into anything the player does 12:35:02 -!- bleak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:35:08 and that gets into scope creep for RNG gods 12:35:15 (read: i don't wanna) 12:39:40 there's all of those DID_ enums which seem underutilized 12:41:12 <|amethyst> well, for now for passives you can just have something god_provides_passive(PASSV_EXTENDED_RANGE) 12:41:35 <|amethyst> then have that check for both fixed and random gods 12:41:50 <|amethyst> and replace the current if (you.religion == GOD_VEHUMET && ...) 12:42:59 that's pretty straightforward 12:43:31 <|amethyst> and it puts the logic in one place 12:43:39 <|amethyst> so even without rng gods it would be an improvement 12:43:51 <|amethyst> hm, another compile error 12:45:02 <|amethyst> this one with fulldebug and webtiles: player.h:198:9: error: ‘rng_god_power’ does not name a type 12:45:53 <|amethyst> because of a circular #include loop: rng-god-func.h -> AppHder.h -> tiles.h -> tileweb.h map_knowledge.h -> mon-info.h -> mon-util.h -> player.h -> rng-god-func.h 12:47:27 should resolve/remove the AppHder dependency then? 12:48:08 <|amethyst> since player.h uses only pointers to rng_god_power and never the object itself, you could have player.h forward-declare struct rng_god_powers; Then it wouldn't need to include rng-god-func.h 12:48:17 <|amethyst> s/wers/wer/ 12:48:43 seems fine 12:49:02 <|amethyst> though if you can avoid the AppHdr.h dependency that would be awesome 12:49:36 <|amethyst> Make sure you test compilation with both tiles and ascii, and probably webtiles too 12:50:20 <|amethyst> since there are enough #ifdefs among those three that it's easy to add something in the wrong place 12:50:51 <|amethyst> and because, as we just saw, the #include chains can be very different 12:51:24 will do. "make", "make FULLDEBUG=y", "make TILES=y", "make WEBTILES=y" 12:51:25 that it? 12:51:45 <|amethyst> maybe also make FULLDEBUG=y TILES=y 12:51:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:52:20 * ColdPie really wishes he had more than two cores 12:52:48 <|amethyst> at least you have two 12:53:56 <|amethyst> my home computer is single-core; I think my laptop is faster but it runs Windows and I loathe doing development on Windows 12:54:12 <|amethyst> at least CSZO is eight-core 12:55:05 <|amethyst> so in practice I'd probably only do all four or five builds when adding a new file 12:55:20 <|amethyst> otherwise it's usually just tiles & webtiles 12:55:31 could distcc to cszo :) 12:56:07 <|amethyst> could get a better computer 12:56:44 <|amethyst> (adding a new file, changing #includes, etc) 12:58:19 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:38 apparently all my build tools are more lenient than yours, which is also fun 12:59:16 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:01 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:00:02 -!- Zephryn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:01:54 <|amethyst> and I'm not even using the oldest version we have to support 13:02:19 <|amethyst> CSZO has gcc 4.4 for example 13:02:28 <|amethyst> and perl 5.10 13:03:03 i shall install a slackware 9 VM :P 13:03:47 <|amethyst> don't forget Windows and Mac OS :) 13:03:59 |amethyst: are you using equipment from 2002? :P 13:04:29 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:04:33 my tertiary machine has 2 cores :P 13:04:51 -!- johnstein has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:05:10 <|amethyst> faze: now you've made me curious, checking wikipedia 13:05:24 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:45 |amethyst: well, all of my machines are dual core, but my laptop has 2 extra threads 13:05:57 <|amethyst> Athlon 64 3500+ stepping 0; Wikipedia says ~2003 13:06:13 <|amethyst> I've probably had it since 2004 13:06:26 ah, i think my home multipurpose server has a similar proc, the 3800 maybe? 13:06:55 <|amethyst> I have a faster machine here that was running OpenSolaris but the disks started making funny noises so it's been turned off for months 13:06:58 /proc/cpuinfo says AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ 13:07:10 <|amethyst> faze: what stepping? 13:07:14 i think it can do a from scratch compile of crawl in around 2.5 minutes 13:07:18 stepping 2 13:07:34 |amethyst: also you'd have to deal with solaris 13:08:16 <|amethyst> elliott: I was using it as a file server because ZFS is awesome 13:08:33 <|amethyst> haven't really played with btrfs, maybe it's just as good these days 13:08:40 i heard zfs is awesome 13:08:53 <|amethyst> OpenSolaris is no more, so this computer will be running Linux if I do anything else with it 13:08:54 i just read about a hash attack for btrfs 13:09:10 <|amethyst> stupid Oracle 13:09:14 it is trivial to calculate hash collisions i guess 13:09:20 <|amethyst> stupid Sun for selling themselves to Oracle 13:09:30 there's an opensolaris fork I think 13:10:03 was virtualbox a sun product? 13:10:15 <|amethyst> elliott: I hope you don't mean SchilliX 13:10:39 I meant Illumos apparently 13:10:45 <|amethyst> ah 13:10:49 or OpenIndiana? 13:10:53 "hey kids, larry ellison here. i heard you like our free performant database. i hope u don't need them tests lol" 13:10:54 apparently they are the same thing 13:11:04 "OpenIndiana is a robust enterprise operating system, based on the illumos kernel." ok 13:11:20 <|amethyst> I dunno, I like Debian but if I wanted Debian I'd just run Linux 13:11:23 <|amethyst> or Hurd 13:11:26 <|amethyst> or BSD 13:11:56 <|amethyst> but I guess if it's for the purpose of using ZFS without FUSE, that would work 13:12:06 I don't think it's related to Debian? 13:12:34 <|amethyst> no, but it uses apt etc 13:12:58 <|amethyst> and I think many if not most packages come from Debian 13:13:19 -!- Isvaffel has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:13:32 <|amethyst> or at least that's how it was in Nexenta, I haven't followed in some time 13:13:34 wp says the unhelpful "Package managerPackage Manager, pkg:" 13:13:41 and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/OpenIndiana-b147-pkg-mgr.png doesn't look like apt 13:13:45 I think it's just a community continuation of OpenSolaris 13:13:47 after it got dropped 13:13:51 rather than an old thing that existed prior 13:14:03 <|amethyst> I'm looking at illumian 13:14:08 oh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_Packaging_System 13:14:19 * elliott said Illumos and OpenIndiana, not Illumian :) 13:14:21 <|amethyst> yeah, that's the Solaris package-management system 13:14:22 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:38 anyway I don't really know much about Solaris other than that it's awful, but I'm pretty sure this OpenIndiana thing is basically identical to what OpenSolaris was 13:14:41 <|amethyst> I didn't realise OpenIndiana was still around on its own 13:15:01 <|amethyst> like I said, I haven't followed in years 13:15:09 I use the freenode webchat client. I failed my first captcha because I rendered 'fhould' as 'should' 13:15:12 * bh grumbles 13:15:30 you mean ſhould 13:15:35 elliott: yes. 13:15:53 <|amethyst> you know, ſ looks kind of like a scythe 13:16:00 <|amethyst> with the handle and everything 13:16:08 <|amethyst> FR: 13:16:17 <|amethyst> I guess that's possible now in init.txt isn't it 13:16:45 <|amethyst> "this weapon is a piece of ſhit" 13:17:21 "This project is a continuation of the OpenSolaris distribution, not of Solaris 10 nor of Solaris Express Community Edition. As such the package manager will indeed be IPS. Using a different packaging system would defeat the purpose of this project." 13:17:27 -- http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Frequently+Asked+Questions#FrequentlyAskedQuestions-WillOpenIndianausetheImagePackagingSystemIPS 13:17:31 mm, nice url 13:18:07 <|amethyst> I should have said "the OpenSolaris package-management system"; I haven't actually used grown-up Solaris 13:18:33 <|amethyst> I really like how easy it is to do a rollback after an upgrade 13:20:07 <|amethyst> I take that back, the CS department used grown-up Solaris when I was an undergrad; but I never administered such a system 13:20:21 NixOS is pretty cool for similar reasons 13:20:30 you can rollback whole system configurations even if your current one won't boot 13:20:35 (and upgrades are atomic) 13:21:36 -!- fdel has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:21:48 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:22:38 |amethyst: where'd you do ugrad? 13:23:09 Our lab was called the Sunlab because it had once been full of solaris boxes. It was a large windowless room. A bit cruel, 'eh? 13:23:53 <|amethyst> same place I am now, Uni of Kentucky 13:24:17 <|amethyst> we had the "multilab" (run by the CS department) and the "CS lab" (run by student computing services) 13:24:48 <|amethyst> both big windowless rooms 13:25:11 <|amethyst> TAs have mandatory office hours in the multilab 13:25:37 <|amethyst> maybe that's changed now that the CS department has moved to the other end of campus 13:25:50 I only lost access to the bioinformatics cluster last year. A friend had been poking around on the file system and noticed I still had a homedir. I e-mailed the admin and asked that they remove my credentials 13:26:02 <|amethyst> the main offices are now a 2 minute walk from my house instead of a 10 minute walk :) 13:26:17 Get a bicycle :) 13:26:30 <|amethyst> my wife has two, but I never learned to ride one 13:27:19 shoppin' time 13:27:20 -!- bh has quit [] 13:30:52 -!- Drewski_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:33:46 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:12 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:40:27 -!- bleak_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:48:26 -!- nooodl_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:07:43 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:08:27 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 14:14:51 -!- Dixbert_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:18 -!- HangedMan is now known as greatorbofeyes 14:17:24 -!- Dixbert has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:19:21 -!- Dixbert_ is now known as Dixbert 14:20:42 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:21:04 -!- yxhuvud2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:31:17 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:32:32 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:33:22 -!- Elynae has quit [Client Quit] 14:35:04 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:45:00 -!- Kromgart has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:50:33 -!- Isvaffl is now known as Isvaffel 14:57:37 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:06 -!- fdel has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:01:31 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:29 -!- Senjai has quit [Changing host] 15:07:20 -!- bzar has quit [Client Quit] 15:08:44 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:09:23 -!- Elynae has quit [Client Quit] 15:09:36 -!- bza has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:11:28 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:11:42 -!- nita has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:20:52 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:26:30 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:31:47 -!- minqmay is now known as minmay 15:31:51 -!- minmay is now known as minqmay 15:35:45 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:36:11 -!- vogonpoet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:50:00 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:50:30 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 15:51:06 -!- kek has quit [Quit: gonna suicide, brb] 15:51:55 -!- Pikkle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:25 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:09:27 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-1418-g5e01d17: Don't disable the manual skill on load (#6458). 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e01d17691d4 16:09:27 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.11 16:21:14 -!- yxhuvud2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:33:20 -!- nita has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:35:06 -!- greatorbofeyes is now known as hangedman 16:44:02 -!- Fusha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:49:33 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:43 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:09:34 -!- _dd has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:17:20 -!- mamga has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:19:35 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20:36 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:22:45 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:41:06 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:47:12 -!- scummos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:51:11 -!- everyonemines has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:58:38 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:05:15 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:06:21 -!- NeremWorld has quit [] 18:07:07 -!- Nabski has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:11:13 -!- Silurio has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:13:55 -!- syllogism has quit [] 18:14:46 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 18:21:46 -!- yxhuvud2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:25:00 -!- scrubnub has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:55 -!- SchwaWarrior has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:30:04 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:32:38 -!- scrubnub has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:37:00 -!- scrubnub has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:30 -!- Misder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:49:57 -!- scrubnub has quit [Quit: Goodbye] 18:52:05 -!- scrubnub has joined ##crawl-dev 18:52:07 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:53:29 -!- Crazylemon64 has quit [Quit: Crazylemon64] 18:58:52 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:01:09 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1419-g6da98bf: Fix the draining brand still dealing bonus damage to demons/undead 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6da98bfd481c 19:01:24 -!- scrubnub has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:03:31 -!- scrubnub has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:25 -!- Pikkle has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:06:28 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 19:06:37 -!- Pikkle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:57 -!- scrubnub has quit [Quit: Goodbye] 19:15:01 -!- scrubnub has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:50 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:17:05 -!- Krag has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 19:19:57 -!- scrubnub has quit [Quit: Goodbye] 19:21:31 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:22:17 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:27:44 -!- st_ has quit [] 19:31:47 -!- SchwaWarrior has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:34:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:36:39 -!- brainsoup has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:41:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:42:24 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:46:36 Hell portal usage behaviour when there is more than one per level (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6464) by hxy 19:47:52 nice 19:48:21 consistent with similar things 19:48:45 like branch but kinda weird with cross-level behavior of hell portals i guess 19:48:57 well it doesn't port you to d:whatever either so yeah 19:49:22 would except the same in this case just for consistency reasons across hell entrances 19:51:05 should put you on a random hell portal on a random d level imo 19:53:20 that would totally not break helllair beyond repair 19:53:41 it would make it better 19:53:51 there are also hell portals placed on d:12 19:56:29 hellllllllllllllair 19:56:42 prince 19:59:54 -!- Dedagen has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:00:59 -!- caleb_ has quit [Client Quit] 20:05:34 -!- kek has quit [Quit: gonna suicide, brb] 20:16:16 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:16:57 -!- tkappleton has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22:37 -!- yxhuvud2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:26:42 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:27:36 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:28:40 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:59 -!- Kromgart has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:39:02 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:39:49 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:41:05 -!- fdel has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:51:09 -!- Foom_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:57:31 -!- rkd has quit [] 21:00:52 -!- Nabski has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:01:42 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:06:22 -!- aleksil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:12:23 -!- Rofaner has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:17:27 -!- eb has quit [] 21:18:45 -!- tJener has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:22:00 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:28:11 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:31:48 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:36:48 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:38:30 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:43 -!- ophanim1 is now known as ophanim 21:43:58 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:53:05 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:22 -!- ToastyP has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:54:02 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:54:12 -!- yon2 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:00:23 -!- hangedman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:51 -!- dagonfive has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:04:37 -!- mcevers has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:05:15 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:06:17 -!- Salivanth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:11:35 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:25 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Client Quit] 22:21:48 -!- yxhuvud2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:21:50 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:22:07 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:43 -!- ark____ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:28:35 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:08 -!- Ystah has quit [] 22:31:14 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:38:59 -!- Jayrays has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:40:26 -!- bmfx has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:22 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:29 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 22:47:34 -!- mamga has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:51:01 -!- y2s82 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:01 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 22:56:19 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:17 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:01:51 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 23:07:22 -!- ophanim1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:11:44 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 23:17:17 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:18:52 -!- Dedagen has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:21:27 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:28:42 -!- Senjai has quit [Changing host] 23:29:37 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:32:49 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:43:55 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:51:16 -!- SchwaWarrior has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:52:45 -!- Senjai has quit [Changing host]