00:00:31 Stable (0.11) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.11.1-23-g81892f4 00:01:41 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1411-ga3683c4 (34) 00:02:39 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1411-ga3683c4 (34) 00:10:00 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:10:42 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 00:11:36 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:12:23 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1411-ga3683c4 00:15:44 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:20:02 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:20:09 -!- Stelpa_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20:09 -!- Silurio has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:20:24 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 00:21:31 -!- Stelpa has quit [Client Quit] 00:21:50 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 00:22:32 -!- moohaus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:26:25 -!- vogon_poet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:37:59 -!- Brainsoup has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:43:38 -!- archl has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121129165506]] 00:49:23 -!- bh has quit [Quit: sleep] 00:56:06 -!- marcmagus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:03:48 -!- shirish has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:06:27 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:09:28 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:12:29 -!- wasd22 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14:11 -!- mcevers has quit [Client Quit] 01:15:27 -!- aleksil has quit [Client Quit] 01:17:00 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 01:17:14 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:24 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:19:32 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:20:57 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 01:21:40 -!- shirish has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:26:57 again, a game from nht stuck 01:27:04 using 99% 01:32:03 -!- dtsund is now known as Asema 01:32:04 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:32:09 -!- Asema is now known as dtsund 01:33:08 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:08 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:35:27 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:39:18 -!- everyonemines has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:43:08 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:44:26 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:45:52 -!- squimmy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:46:38 -!- bza has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54:09 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 01:58:37 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:58:42 -!- shirish has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:06:09 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:08:18 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:24 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 02:15:54 -!- tkappleton1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:16:28 -!- G-Flex has quit [] 02:17:20 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:20:08 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 02:29:26 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:38 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:36:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:39:59 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:41:08 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:40 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:06 -!- Dixbert has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:06 -!- domiryuu has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:06 -!- Blazinghand has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:07 -!- _jdpage has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:07 -!- Schwer-Muta has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:07 -!- hovmm has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:07 -!- clinew has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:07 -!- y2s82 has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:07 -!- Xiberia has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:07 -!- imantor has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:07 -!- faze has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:07 -!- Keskitalo has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:07 -!- wh1te has quit [*.net *.split] 02:44:07 -!- Moredread has quit [*.net *.split] 02:45:46 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:11 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:11 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:11 -!- faze has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:11 -!- wh1te has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:11 -!- Moredread has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: im alastor] 02:48:12 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 02:49:37 -!- mcevers has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:57:25 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:16:32 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:22:10 -!- Dixbert has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:23:28 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32:19 This is a little obnoxious. An effect I'm trying to create is essentially a cloud for most mechanical purposes, yet isn't actually a 'cloud' in the physical sense, but something more tangible. And it thus feels a bit odd to me for one to overwrite the other or be blocked by it, though I'm not sure there's any good way around that. 03:32:38 Though I suppose ink isn't very gaseous here, either 03:39:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:42:57 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:44:07 -!- Pikkle has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 03:52:37 -!- LoremIpsum_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:52:37 -!- fernandotakai has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:53:08 -!- LoremIpsum__ is now known as LoremIpsum_ 03:53:47 -!- bleak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:54:51 -!- fernandotakai_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:54:52 -!- LoremIpsum_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:59:08 -!- Duke- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:01:17 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 04:03:38 -!- raistware has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:13:09 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:15:30 -!- alefury has quit [] 04:21:04 I don't suppose anyone can think of a good way to make a stationary IOOD-like object not end up more useful as a way of temporarily blocking corridors than for its intended destructive function? 04:29:35 -!- Pthing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:46:59 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:06 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:58:15 -!- Kromgart has joined ##crawl-dev 04:59:01 Hi. I have some problems playing online: SSH seems to freeze randomly. I can switch to another tty and kill the process, but it happens like every 3-5 minutes. Any ideas what could be wrong? 04:59:34 -!- dagonfive1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:59:36 network lag? 05:00:04 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1411-ga3683c4 05:00:18 no, when it freezes - it is like forever (I waited 20 minutes at one time) 05:00:53 and ping to cdo is ~50, without packet losses 05:01:53 tried cszo 10 minutes ago - same thing happened in new game on D1 05:10:42 -!- GuraKKa1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:13:08 -!- absolutego has quit [Read error: No route to host] 05:13:37 -!- stenno has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:15:07 -!- stenno has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:19:11 -!- LikotUdendeb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:26:46 -!- absolutego has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:28:00 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:30:36 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 05:33:17 -!- Duke- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:40:16 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:42:25 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 05:50:10 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:57:38 -!- Kromgart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:58:04 -!- Kromgart has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:47 -!- archl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:05:04 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:18 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 06:13:17 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:13:58 -!- voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:15:06 -!- archl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:15:37 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:17:41 -!- Sabaki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:37 -!- Kromgart has left ##crawl-dev 06:31:26 -!- vogon_poet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:47:14 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:53:28 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:02:14 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:09:14 anyone know the player of "nht"? 07:10:58 he is on IRC sometimes I think? 07:11:08 in ##crawl 07:12:03 last seen 3 weeks ago 07:12:33 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Butts] 07:25:02 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:29:36 -!- ColdPie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:30:53 -!- raistware has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:36:11 -!- kek_rip has joined ##crawl-dev 07:42:44 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:51:03 -!- kryft has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:52:03 -!- Artagas has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:04:04 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:07:30 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 08:09:39 -!- sgiratch has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:09:52 -!- us17 has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 08:17:05 -!- vogon_poet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:26:26 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20120715100958]] 08:26:49 -!- Kromgart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:33:57 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:39:36 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 08:46:11 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 08:52:45 anyone want to change this? dpeg_entry_circle_labyrinth_c places an altar. It's the 'B' glyph, looks like maybe a subst was forgotten? 08:53:09 -!- stenno__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:09:43 -!- ColdPie has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:04 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:20:51 -!- kek_rip has quit [Quit: fix the net] 09:32:58 -!- Stelpa has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:36:38 -!- Oddtwang has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:37:11 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 09:42:22 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:42 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:50:56 -!- tsohg_ is now known as tsohg 10:08:16 |amethyst: ping 10:09:38 <|amethyst> Wensley: what's up? 10:10:07 |amethyst: I think Napkin wanted you to be around for some reason when we switch the learndb over to cao? 10:10:25 I guess maybe Napkin doesn't have a login to new cao 10:10:53 <|amethyst> he does, but it sounded like he was just going to copy the learndb there and wanted me to get henzell working 10:13:07 -!- Vizer has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:17 <|amethyst> Wensley: what version of Bot::BasicBot were you using? 10:13:39 <|amethyst> 0.89 or so? 10:13:57 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:14:06 why shouldn't it work out of the box? 10:14:12 just because of unicode entries? 10:14:19 <|amethyst> yeah, there were encoding changes 10:14:30 <|amethyst> previously it had been double-encoded, Wensley and I fixed that 10:14:57 wasn't it working previously? ;) 10:14:59 <|amethyst> but the fix requires (and is required by) a newer version of Bot::BasicBot than what CAO has 10:15:15 <|amethyst> Napkin: it was until Wensley installed it with a newer Bot::BasicBot :) 10:15:23 pfui! ;> 10:16:07 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:22 <|amethyst> installing dh-make-perl 10:16:35 ouch 10:17:05 <|amethyst> (better than CPANning it into /usr/local I think) 10:18:38 |amethyst: how would I check that? 10:18:46 not at all familiar with perl 10:19:34 <|amethyst> Wensley: perl -MBot::BasicBot -e 'print $Bot::BasicBot::VERSION . "\n"' 10:20:03 <|amethyst> I looked over the logs and it looks like you have 0.89 (CAO had and has 0.70, so I'm upgradnig that) 10:20:07 wonderful 10:20:11 0.89 is correct 10:21:55 -!- archl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:24:07 -!- Vizer_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:39 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:30:30 <|amethyst> Applied the patch to henzell, setting up CPAN in preparation for cpan2deb 10:30:47 <|amethyst> also un-disabled learndb 10:30:50 <|amethyst> ??test 10:30:50 summon butterflies[4/4]: 12Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 9Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 4Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 8Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 11Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ7 Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 6Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ6 10Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 10:31:01 |amethyst: shall I retire wenzell? 10:31:13 or do you want him for comparing unicode 10:31:40 <|amethyst> should be down before Napkin does the copying anyway 10:31:57 <|amethyst> so no one adds entries to the old copy 10:34:00 <|amethyst> Okay, newer Bot::BasicBot installed 10:34:43 ok, ping me though I might be heading to lunch shortly 10:34:53 just please make sure some accident happens to test[1] during the copy 10:35:11 yes, make it spread to every single entry in the learndb 10:36:00 learn add kilobyte see {test[1]} 10:36:19 yes, I should quickly insert random butterflies into the learndb while I still have the source 10:36:28 <|amethyst> Napkin: henzell and the libs are updated, so you *should* be able to put the stuff in /home/henzell/henzell/dat/learndb, chown it to henzell:henzell, and restart henzell 10:36:57 the only decent terminal on maemo (ie, without a debian chroot/etc) has a bug that makes ??test[1] corrupt all the screen below it, making IRC pretty hard to read 10:37:43 :( 10:37:51 the internet believes there's xchat for maemo 10:38:18 how exactly do you put xchat on screen? 10:38:32 kilobyte: xmonad? 10:38:40 :) 10:38:45 <|amethyst> there's a screen-like X server proxy somewhere isn't there? 10:39:07 <|amethyst> not that I'd use xchat over irssi anyway 10:39:13 might be a wee bit problematic on crappy network links :p 10:39:58 |amethyst: I'll tell you something worse: there are heretics who run CRAWL with graphics! 10:40:06 X11 over GPRS? That's something I should try sometime. 10:41:21 <|amethyst> We should do a local tile set that uses letter glyphs 10:41:51 like ??f10 10:42:01 <|amethyst> with fancy illustrated letters, like a children's primer 10:42:14 oh. :) 10:42:16 might be unreadable over aalib 10:42:19 <|amethyst> the h is made to look like a dog or something 10:43:50 <|amethyst> Napkin: I've got to go to work before long; once you have it copied in, let me know what remains to be done 10:44:07 🐩 10:44:09 <|amethyst> Napkin: don't be shy about symlinking things you need (learndb.html maybe?) into /var/www 10:45:05 <|amethyst> kilobyte: was that a character outside the BMP? I just saw the "unknown character" symbol 10:45:06 -!- animegrampa has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:45:12 <|amethyst> stupid screen 10:45:13 ah, there's a regular dog too: 🐕 10:45:51 <|amethyst> kilobyte: you said you use tmux for correct UCS-4 handling? 10:45:55 U+1F429 POODLE, U+1F415 DOG 10:46:06 yeah 10:47:06 screen is better for advanced use, tmux has only two advantages: 1. correct handling of non-BMP, 2. multirobin 10:47:19 <|amethyst> what about multirobin? 10:47:27 <|amethyst> I mean, compared to screen -x 10:47:52 oh, -x wasn't there the last time I looked 10:48:39 usually it's a downside, too -- if the old connection had a small terminal size, you'll have to remotely disconnect it manually 10:51:44 -!- Jikor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:52:26 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2] 10:53:02 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Butts] 10:57:07 when I saw how short those names were, I thought you might be joking 10:57:17 now I'm really confused 10:57:47 hmm, SNOWMAN is the same, though ... 11:00:02 someone forgot to set them as double-width characters which makes them useless in most fonts 11:00:08 <|amethyst> what were you expecting, UPPERCASE LEFT-FACING FILLED DOG 11:01:03 <|amethyst> kilobyte: does glibc have width information for stuff outside BMP? 11:01:10 <|amethyst> s/stuff/any stuff/ 11:01:19 too much detail to be readable at common text sizes, also they tend to come from Japanese sources which have all native letters have double width 11:01:19 don't forget U+1F4A9, PILE OF POO 11:02:41 |amethyst: not sure if libc has them, but when I regenerated wcwidth data using the tool Markus Khn released, emoji got set to width 1 11:06:54 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:37 -!- mcevers has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:31:42 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:32:53 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:39 -!- Kromgart has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:35:45 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:28 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ik ben weg] 11:43:53 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:34 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:47:49 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:48:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:49:20 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 11:53:47 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:34 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:08 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:52 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:08:36 -!- helsbecter has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:09:31 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:22 -!- helsbecter1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:15:42 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:18:58 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:48 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:34:34 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:41:17 -!- BoredOne has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:42:30 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:49:16 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:06 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:55:08 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:00:35 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:01:46 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:17 -!- Xares has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:27 -!- animegrampa has quit [Disconnected by services] 13:02:36 -!- animegra1pa is now known as animegrampa 13:03:11 -!- rchandra has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:03:26 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 13:07:21 -!- kek has quit [Quit: switch] 13:10:34 |amethyst: back from lunch, whenever you're ready 13:11:04 -!- newkek has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:16 -!- shirish has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:14:26 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:17 -!- Deus___ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:17:11 Wensley: is something exciting happening? 13:17:32 -!- phirt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:17:48 bh: we're removing all levels from the game *except* for new abyss. crawl is now all abyss, all the time 13:18:22 actually we are giving henzell a learndb transplant, and wenzell is the donor 13:18:51 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:19:09 <|amethyst> Wensley: I'm here 13:19:12 so I will have to administer anasthaesia before the surgery can begin 13:20:02 |amethyst: shall I sedate the patient? 13:20:13 <|amethyst> how are we copying the learndb? 13:20:25 napkin was rsyncing 13:20:29 yesterday 13:20:35 <|amethyst> where to? 13:20:38 honestly I'm not sure what rsync does, I get by with scp :P 13:20:39 not sure 13:20:46 rsync scps 13:20:46 <|amethyst> ... 13:20:52 but cooler 13:20:57 <|amethyst> I don't think it was to CAO 13:20:57 he rsync'd *somewhere* 13:21:01 probably to his own server 13:21:07 for the benefit of the learndb dump page 13:21:19 <|amethyst> can you tar up the learndb and make it web-available to me after you take down Wenzell? 13:21:27 yeah I can do that right now 13:21:35 <|amethyst> stop it first 13:21:36 seems like the easiest way 13:21:39 <|amethyst> for consistency's sake :) 13:21:57 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:22:08 rip Wenzell 13:22:28 -!- Wenzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:22:43 FR: Auto-features from Learndb 13:22:52 <|amethyst> okay, let me know when the URL is ready 13:23:04 <|amethyst> err, let me know the URL when the tarball is ready 13:23:40 <|amethyst> were there any patches I needed to apply besides my encoding patch? 13:23:58 <|amethyst> I already renamed learn.aside back to learn 13:24:44 <|amethyst> err 13:24:52 <|amethyst> I thought I did, now I can't find it :) 13:25:34 |amethyst: http://seleniac.org/learndb.tgz 13:25:56 |amethyst: okay okay, so... 13:26:21 <|amethyst> No worries, I got it back from HEAD 13:26:35 |amethyst: right, wenzell right now is just slightly modified from henzell head 13:26:49 I upstreamed all the important things from the past few months 13:28:45 <|amethyst> what is responsible for running learndb-html.pl ? 13:29:04 <|amethyst> should I be setting up a cron job 13:36:28 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:35 <|amethyst> ??test 13:36:41 <|amethyst> hm 13:36:47 <|amethyst> how was that disabled 13:36:48 summon butterflies[4/4]: 12Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 9Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 4Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 8Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 11Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ7 Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 6Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ6 10Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 13:36:53 <|amethyst> hrm 13:37:16 interesting. 13:37:23 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38:01 <|amethyst> Wensley: and the thing you gave me is the copy from wenzell? 13:38:09 summon clutterflies 13:38:22 -!- sepik121 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:38:23 <|amethyst> Wensley: because it looks double-encoded in the file and I thought we fixed that 13:38:41 |amethyst: this is literally the same folder that wenzell was using 13:38:55 unless somehow tar messed it up, which seems unlikely 13:39:07 |amethyst: you're welcome to ssh into my server and compare my files to yours 13:39:13 haha 13:39:18 what happened to summon butterflies 13:39:19 md5sum 13:39:31 ??wcrawl[6] 13:39:33 <|amethyst> I get ec1f5fa576b1c7905c57754291507635 dat/learndb/summon_butterflies/4 13:39:36 <|amethyst> what about you? 13:39:43 -!- fernandotakai_ is now known as fernandotakai 13:40:24 ec1f5fa576b1c7905c57754291507635 13:40:41 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Butts] 13:40:50 <|amethyst> hm 13:40:57 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 13:41:44 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:42:19 |amethyst: wenzell is on git rev 2c998dab9b8354f699affc9213bcb59c32189030 13:42:39 which is way behind HEAD but I don't think greensnark touched any utf8 thing in the interim 13:43:59 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44:16 |amethyst: you could make sure that these bits of code https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_henzell/commit/eb76855ec5c782e57d8da9efa8a71c1d4765cdd5 still exist on henzell 13:47:01 <|amethyst> Wensley: ... 13:47:48 <|amethyst> Wensley: a few days ago you posted https://gist.github.com/4348756 13:47:56 <|amethyst> Wensley: which is the exact opposite of that patch 13:48:09 -!- RexBael has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:48:17 <|amethyst> that would explain the confusion anyway 13:48:52 -!- newkek has quit [Quit: restart irc] 13:49:03 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:00 |amethyst: er, I must have done git diff with the revisions in the wrong order :P 13:50:23 sorry if that caused you to manually regress henzell :) 13:51:30 ha, yeah, I did git diff eb76855ec5c782e57d8da9efa8a71c1d4765cdd5..eb76855ec5c782e57d8da9efa8a71c1d4765cdd5^ instead of the other way around 13:51:40 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:53 <|amethyst> ??test 13:51:57 summon butterflies[4/4]: 12Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 9Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 4Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 8Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 11Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ7 Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 6Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ6 10Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 13:52:02 boundless victory 13:52:07 <|amethyst> the files are badly encoded still :( 13:52:14 they look weird to me 13:52:30 <|amethyst> the butterflies look normal to me 13:52:32 There's an 'over score' between the X and the backward 3 13:52:35 bh: you look weird to Henzell, too 13:52:44 |amethyst: well now you have all the latitude in the world to correct the encoding! 13:52:57 <|amethyst> Processing auth response from NickServ: Insufficient parameters for IDENTIFY. 13:53:03 <|amethyst> was henzell supposed to authenticate? 13:53:10 Zannick: :( 13:53:13 |amethyst: yeah, there's a file... 13:53:20 bh: what's wrong with that? 13:53:23 yeah, the overscores are ...silly. 13:53:38 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:53:42 |amethyst: create a password.txt file in the main henzell directory 13:53:50 with nothing but henzell's password inside 13:53:58 <|amethyst> hm 13:54:03 gnome-terminal doesn't really like the character augments 13:54:08 <|amethyst> I don't know henzell's old password, but I bet oldchroot does 13:54:09 ChrisOelmueller: http://i.imgur.com/wkWN8.png 13:54:30 inadequate character combining! 13:54:38 ah 13:54:44 yeah i suppose it's there to detect this kind of issues exactly 13:55:07 <|amethyst> bh: ah, here that macron or whatever is in a completely different place (to the right of the Ʒ along with an ogonek or something) 13:56:12 * Zannick has http://i.imgur.com/6wWlc.png 13:56:23 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:34 not really sure why it changes after the 5th one 13:56:46 <|amethyst> 14:56:40 ۰۰-- account : Henzell 13:56:48 <|amethyst> aight 13:57:02 <|amethyst> ??wenzell 13:57:02 wenzell[1/6]: Like Henzell, except that Wensley is typing everything himself. 13:57:02 Can we change ice beasts to use ☃? 13:57:04 <|amethyst> ??wenzell[2] 13:57:05 wenzell[2/6]: how do I turn off the wierd acient on the learndb? 13:57:06 <|amethyst> ??wenzell[3] 13:57:06 wenzell[3/6]: !rng @goodchar The RNG chooses: MuPr. 13:57:09 <|amethyst> ??wenzell[4] 13:57:10 wenzell[4/6]: Source code here: http://i.imgur.com/B3LhT.jpg 13:57:11 <|amethyst> ??wenzell[5] 13:57:12 wenzell[5/6]: !rng play_sp_of_chei get_a_boring_god The RNG chooses: get_a_boring_god. The RNG chooses: play_sp_of_chei. 13:57:13 <|amethyst> ??wenzell[6] 13:57:13 wenzell[6/6]: !rng axe long_blade The RNG chooses: axe. The RNG chooses: long_blade. 10:55 !rng axe long_blade The RNG chooses: axe. The RNG chooses: long_blade. !rng axe long_blade The RNG chooses: long_blade. The RNG chooses: axe. STOP IT 13:57:32 here's how it should look, from pasting it into firefox: http://imgur.com/Bryyb 13:58:16 that is totally less pretty than what i see 13:58:40 -!- aleksil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:59:46 <|amethyst> hm... I guess there's no reason not to regenerate the HTML ever minute, since it only takes 1.5 seconds of wall time 14:00:05 <|amethyst> ??learndb 14:00:05 learndb[1/12]: A html page of learndb entries is at http://crawl.develz.org/learndb/index.html. You can also access the learndb at http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/bots. 14:00:29 every minute seems silly 14:00:37 how about on-demand? 14:01:00 how about when it changes, then you queue up a rebuild of that page 14:01:18 apart from topological concerns, can someone write some code to dump crawl dungeons as minecraft worlds? 14:01:32 and then when you have a bunch batched, then you go 14:01:33 <|amethyst> ??learndb 14:01:34 learndb[1/12]: A html page of learndb entries is at http://crawl.akrasiac.org/learndb.html . You can also access the learndb at http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/bots . 14:01:34 ooh 14:01:38 bh: that sounds fun 14:01:41 oh man 14:01:44 it could be so cool 14:01:59 yeah and then people put it into minecraft 14:02:00 :( 14:02:13 bh: I think it might be simpler to add a new "minecraft map" backend to the level generator 14:02:17 but 14:02:18 I have no idea! 14:02:25 crawlcraft 14:02:28 minecrawl 14:02:34 minecrawl definitely 14:02:42 <|amethyst> Napkin: okay, learndb is live on CAO now; /home/henzell/henzell/dat/learndb/ (also symlinked as /home/henzell/dcss_henzell/dat/learndb/) 14:03:03 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1412-g611b22e: Remove an altar from an entry vault (st_) 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=611b22e953f1 14:03:05 <|amethyst> Napkin: HTML is at http://crawl.akrasiac.org/learndb.html, regenerated once per minute 14:03:27 <|amethyst> !tell amethyst blah 14:03:27 |amethyst: OK, I'll let amethyst know. 14:03:30 <|amethyst> foo 14:03:31 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:03:33 <|amethyst> !messages 14:03:33 (1/1) |amethyst said (6s ago): blah 14:03:38 <|amethyst> !tell |amethyst blah 14:03:38 I don't grok. Syntax is !tell PERSON MESSAGE. 14:03:50 -!- kek has quit [Quit: groceries] 14:05:22 anybody knowledgeable about the DGL sorting stuff on the watch screen? 14:05:31 !abyss |amethyst 14:05:32 bh casts a spell. amethyst is devoured by a tear in reality! 14:05:40 no chance to get minecrawl coded on time; the last possible time for the end of the world is in 10 hours, based on the time zone of Jucatan 14:05:42 henzell, y u no grok |? 14:06:04 kilobyte: I've been trying to get folks who think the world is going to end to borrow money from me. 14:06:09 | not in \w 14:06:50 could I read |amethyst's messages by changing my name to ||||amethyst ? 14:06:57 ChrisOelmueller: what about it? 14:07:16 want to sort "dcss-git" before "dcss-0.11" 14:07:19 bh: or amet|hyst or anything else, presumably 14:08:52 ChrisOelmueller: but, git is just the nascent 0.12 :P 14:09:14 Wensley: the char column also doesn't sort xl1 before xl27 :P 14:10:23 ChrisOelmueller: I solved that problem for the player status page by having a gauntlet of regexes massage those damn game identifiers into a more uniform representation. and it breaks whenever someone introduces a new one, as you can currently see on http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/player-status 14:10:44 note the CSN players 14:11:00 but yeah, those things are the bane of my existence 14:11:53 yep, bad csn 14:12:06 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:12:31 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:07 "so recently i played my FELair:2 when it finally reached level Na" 14:13:23 <|amethyst> sodium is a very dangerous level 14:13:33 <|amethyst> especially if you're an octopode or merfolk 14:13:34 especially if you are a merfolk 14:13:36 dammit! 14:14:03 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:08 <|amethyst> too slow, boy 14:14:34 ERROR in 'dungeon.cc' at line 3756: Placed map 'evilmike_abyss_exit_16', yet vault_placement is 'evilmike_abyss_rune_tso_outpost' 14:15:26 'eh? 14:15:50 -!- stenno has quit [Changing host] 14:16:02 I've never saw that before, too 14:23:12 <|amethyst> ??wenzell 14:23:13 wenzell[1/6]: When Henzell was down, Wensley stepped in by typing in all the learndb responses himself. 14:23:32 I think ??wenzell is my new favorite entry 14:23:39 <|amethyst> Wensley: anything else that still needs to be transferred? 14:23:47 let me see 14:24:15 |amethyst: nope, henzell already has the messages and its own seendb 14:24:30 I think it's done 14:24:42 <|amethyst> cool beans 14:24:42 but its seendb is worse! 14:24:50 yeah it is :P 14:25:00 I guess it depends 14:25:13 it's not the seendb itself, it's that the two bots just have different behavior 14:25:25 <|amethyst> if you want to write some code to merge seendbs I'll run it, otherwise I'm not going to worry about it 14:25:28 nah 14:25:32 it wouldn't even work that way 14:25:34 there are some commands that henzell hasn't been set up to handle yet 14:25:38 !apt he 14:25:39 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:25:42 oh right 14:25:43 <|amethyst> let me see 14:25:49 <|amethyst> where do I put the source for that? 14:25:58 commands/apt i believe 14:26:08 or the general config even 14:26:26 yeah, Helper.pm 14:26:32 |amethyst: I seem to have just put the crawl directory in the henzell root directory 14:27:20 great, |amethyst - could you point me to the updated learndb-html.pl? 14:27:35 <|amethyst> Napkin: I didn't change the script at all 14:27:44 <|amethyst> Napkin: but it's in /home/henzell/dcss_henzell/ 14:28:11 yuck 14:28:23 means i would need to update the libs it uses :-/ 14:28:50 <|amethyst> all it uses is HTTP::Date 14:29:45 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 14:30:27 weird 14:30:32 -!- Pikkle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:06 <|amethyst> it's not a CGI 14:31:11 |amethyst: re: licensing on perlin noise. Here's the original source: http://webstaff.itn.liu.se/~stegu/simplexnoise/SimplexNoise.java 14:32:01 not that hard to rewrite it from the algorithm description 14:32:07 <|amethyst> bh: it was you who translated to C++? 14:32:13 yep 14:32:34 <|amethyst> bh: Put some copyright on your translation, say that it's based on public domain code and cite that 14:32:44 k 14:33:06 <|amethyst> I'd even give that URL 14:33:22 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1413-g6a7776d: Remove a reference to an ex-option from the ^F help page 10(61 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a7776d662d5 14:33:48 <|amethyst> !apt he 14:33:49 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:33:50 |amethyst: why did the lawyers make copyright so confusing? 14:34:23 <|amethyst> !apt he 14:34:24 HE: Fighting: 0, Short: 2, Long: 2!, Axes: -2, Maces: -2, Polearms: -2, Staves: 0, Slings: -2, Bows: 3!, Xbows: 0, Throw: 1, Armour: -1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 2, Stab: -1, Shields: -1, Traps: !, UC: -2*, Splcast: 1, Conj: 1, Hexes: 0, Charms: 2, Summ: -1, Nec: -2, Tloc: 1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 2, Earth: -2, Poison: -2, Inv: 1, Evo: 1, Exp: -1, HP: -1, MP: 2 14:39:01 -!- johnthebear has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:39:43 Wensley: did you fix !cmdinfo 14:40:03 or was this wenzell-exclusive 14:40:09 <|amethyst> !cmdinfo 14:40:10 !chars !cmdinfo !deathsby !deathsin !gamesby !gkills !help !hs !killsby !lg !listgame !lm !log !nick !streak !tlg !ttr !ttyrec !tv !tvdef !won 14:40:10 !abyss !aplayers !apt !cdefine !cheers !cmdinfo !coffee !copysave !dump !echo !eplayers !ftw !function !help !idle !learn !macro !messages !nick !players !rc !rng !screensize !seen !send !skill !source !tell !time !vault !whereis !wtf 14:40:15 -!- Zauren has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:49 |amethyst: wenzell used to abyss !aplayers, humorous but obviously not intentional 14:41:16 <|amethyst> !vault jmf_multi_god_temple 14:41:37 <|amethyst> oh, can't locate App/Nopaste.pm 14:42:26 <|amethyst> !dump neil 14:42:26 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Neil/Neil.txt 14:43:03 <|amethyst> !vault jmf_multi_god_temple 14:43:07 Lines pasted to http://pastie.org/5562920 14:43:16 <|amethyst> cool 14:43:30 <|amethyst> anything else broken? 14:43:34 !apt 14:43:35 Could not understand "!apt" 14:43:39 !apt fe 14:43:40 Fe: Fighting: 0, Short: N/A, Long: N/A, Axes: N/A, Maces: N/A, Polearms: N/A, Staves: N/A, Slings: N/A, Bows: N/A, Xbows: N/A, Throw: N/A, Armour: N/A, Dodge: 3, Stealth: 4, Stab: 3, Shields: N/A, Traps: !, UC: 0, Splcast: -1, Conj: -1, Hexes: 4!, Charms: 2, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: 4!, Tmut: 1, Fire: -1, Ice: -2, Air: -1, Earth: -2, Poison: -1, Inv: 0, Evo: 2, Exp: -1, HP: -4*, MP: 2 14:43:45 !apt tr 14:43:46 Tr: Fighting: -2*, Short: -2, Long: -2, Axes: -2, Maces: -1, Polearms: -2, Staves: -2, Slings: -4*, Bows: -4*, Xbows: -4*, Throw: -1, Armour: -2, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -4*, Stab: -2, Shields: -2, Traps: !, UC: 0, Splcast: -5*, Conj: -3*, Hexes: -4*, Charms: -4*, Summ: -3*, Nec: -2, Tloc: -3*, Tmut: -3, Fire: -3*, Ice: -3*, Air: -4*, Earth: -1, Poison: -3*, Inv: -1*, Evo: -2*, Exp: -1, HP: 3!, MP: -2... 14:43:49 yes, !vault is sending stuff to a pastebin instead of linking the online version 14:43:51 !apt bows 14:43:52 Bows: HE: 3!, Ce: 3!, Ha: 2, Sp: 2, Mi: 1, Te: 1, DE: 1, Op: 0, SE: 0, Hu: 0, HO: -1, Dg: -1, Ds: -1, Dr: -1, Na: -1, Ko: -1, Gh: -1, Mu: -2, Vp: -2, Mf: -2, DD: -3, Og: -3, Tr: -4*, Fe: N/A 14:44:13 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: don't make me link to gitorious :P 14:44:18 nonono 14:44:20 gdo! 14:44:25 link to the develz mirror 14:44:28 or the github mirror 14:44:47 to a really weird collection of pastebins no less 14:46:08 |amethyst: I'm going to slap CC0 on my port. I don't want to restrict anyone further than the original author 14:46:23 <|amethyst> that's fine 14:47:22 <|amethyst> There is license text for CC0 on creativecommons.org, right? 14:47:33 <|amethyst> if so, maybe put that in docs/license/cc0.txt 14:47:40 <|amethyst> since many of the tiles use it too 14:48:32 03bh 07[inception] * 0.12-a0-1480-g3a0353c: Clarify Perlin Noise Licensing 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 10+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a0353c0d34a 14:49:00 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: if you want to rewrite commands/source.pl feel free 14:49:23 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: I'll apply your patch; I just don't feel like doing it myself :/ 14:49:32 does this involve touching perl code 14:49:38 <|amethyst> yes 14:49:40 because it sure sounds like it 14:49:46 <|amethyst> unless you want to rewrite it maybe 14:49:59 would rather do that than patch anything, yes 14:50:12 but then the next patcher does the same 14:52:40 http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php?q=summon+butterflies - yay 14:52:54 -!- kwel01 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:52:54 <|amethyst> yay 14:54:04 <|amethyst> !learn add test éñń♥ĝᕘᐸᕐ ᐸᔅ ᕗᒻ 14:54:05 test[13/13]: éñń♥ĝᕘᐸᕐ ᐸᔅ ᕗᒻ 14:54:17 problem was htmlentities of index.php.. defaults to iso-8859-1 in that version of php 14:54:28 <|amethyst> ??test[13] 14:54:28 test[13/13]: éñń♥ĝᕘᐸᕐ ᐸᔅ ᕗᒻ 14:55:07 ouch, i'm still rsyncing from wenzell, of course 14:57:46 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:58:38 03bh 07* 0.12-a0-1414-g3b8bcb5: Add CC0 License 10(53 seconds ago, 1 file, 121+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b8bcb580c50 15:01:13 <|amethyst> Napkin: fixed a bug in learndb-html.pl 15:01:23 <|amethyst> Napkin: it was stopping when it hit a zero-length entry 15:01:38 yes, seeing that right now, too :) 15:03:11 <|amethyst> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/0001-Don-t-stop-iterating-on-a-zero-length-subentry.patch 15:05:25 http://crawl.develz.org/learndb/index.html#test 15:07:57 <|amethyst> I just applied that patch, so the old learndb.html wouldn't have it 15:08:04 <|amethyst> err, old learndb-html.pl 15:09:03 <|amethyst> hrm 15:10:24 -!- tkappleton1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:10:27 removing the underscore is disturbing the references, i think 15:11:23 <|amethyst> the problem is that test2[2] is pointing to test[1] 15:11:37 <|amethyst> I thought I fixed that, let me make sure I have that patch 15:11:47 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:12:25 no, that works here 15:12:54 maybe "#test" doesn't work because there is also "#test spawner" 15:13:12 it worked with my old version with didn't remove the underscores 15:13:16 <|amethyst> oh 15:15:18 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 15:15:19 i used $key instead of $_ in yeah, I did that in commit 80944f35 15:15:53 -!- Senjai has quit [Changing host] 15:16:10 why? 15:16:31 <|amethyst> oh, I mean, changed it from $key to $_ 15:16:34 hmm, the removal of [1] doesn't work either 15:16:48 i understood what you meant, but why did you? 15:17:07 <|amethyst> I'm trying to remember now; this was over a year ago 15:17:12 hehe 15:17:22 i gotta go 15:17:28 <|amethyst> oh, each foo[3] had anchor "foo" instead 15:17:29 keep me posted :) 15:17:53 ah, yes 15:18:11 replace spaces with underscore then additionally? 15:18:14 o/ 15:18:43 -!- vogonpoet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:27:38 <|amethyst> no, #that is fine 15:27:51 <|amethyst> isn't because test[1] is the target of a redirect (from test[2] 15:27:52 <|amethyst> ) 15:29:38 -!- dspencer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:29:47 -!- Dedagen1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:32:30 -!- Psyknux has quit [Quit: My work is end \(^o^)/] 15:33:48 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:14 http://i.imgur.com/qo6co.png 15:43:26 is there any genius here who can decipher dpeg_entry_thieves and help fix that? 15:44:08 why is twisted.des still a thing 15:44:13 i'm pretty sure that's which vault it is, but unfortunately the vault is completely unreadable 15:44:23 oh god 15:44:48 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:45:01 i guess just give the whole thing no_rtele_into 15:48:58 this vault seems sort of questionable anyway... it generates weird 3-tile doors, and doors that just open directly onto rock walls 15:50:12 would anyone object to just removing it? 15:50:21 it == twisted.des 15:50:25 no! 15:51:12 I'd start with dpeg_entry_water_fire, though. 15:51:28 that^ 15:51:43 although unlike _thieves, this one is fixably by weeding plants from the central chamber 15:52:08 yeah, i think that one would be fine without the plants 15:55:01 -!- GON_again has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:00:15 MarvinPA: why does dpeg hate the player? :) 16:00:38 i think this case was accidental! :P 16:00:49 but either way the player probably deserves it 16:00:57 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:01:07 can't trust those players 16:01:18 MarvinPA: so true. The player be damned. They had it coming. 16:01:52 compensate by making the vault spawn oklobs when you carry the orb 16:01:57 *everywhere* 16:01:59 mmmmmmm 16:02:54 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:37 news at 11: dpeg hates players! 16:03:52 but don't we all 16:03:57 bhaak: I'll let you in on a secret: I hate the playe even more. 16:04:04 bh: prove it 16:04:06 no no I hate them most 16:04:10 bhaak: The abyss. 16:04:13 seen enough proof 16:04:17 damnit 16:04:20 please unprove 16:04:20 can't beat that 16:04:28 disprove? 16:04:29 Who wrote the original abyss? greensnark? 16:04:31 yeah that i guess 16:04:52 wasn't abyss around in linley's dungeon crawl though 16:04:56 !seen dpeg 16:04:57 I last saw dpeg at Tue Dec 18 17:39:03 2012 UTC (3d 4h 25m 53s ago) joining the channel. 16:05:00 probably some guy who read too much nietzsche 16:05:43 my log says he last said something on dec 11 16:05:54 bhaak: be careful when fighting monsters! Because one of them might have a distortion weapon and abyss you. 16:06:30 bh: i don't have to worry. i hardly play atm so i'm safe. :) 16:10:52 -!- mcevers has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:12:49 |amethyst: can you remind me of why we need to bisect inception before merging? 16:13:09 bisect? 16:13:26 binary search to find where bh introduced the bug 16:13:37 yeah, but what's the point? 16:13:44 It won't affect anyone 16:14:06 <|amethyst> The suggestion was to make sure that we don't have a long stretch of commits that don't build 16:14:12 merging all commits that introduce something just to kill it later would be pretty useful, though 16:14:18 |amethyst: ah, right 16:14:41 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1415-gf821223: Make a broken entry vault an unthing. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 48-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f821223d26c5 16:14:41 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1416-g1abc088: Weed most plants from dpeg_entry_water_fire. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1abc088ebbd6 16:14:43 |amethyst: I'm pretty sure everything builds. It just has lousy save compatibility 16:14:47 <|amethyst> oh, right 16:14:55 <|amethyst> well, that could be a problem too 16:14:58 kilobyte: should I add a message (from Lugonu?) for players who save in the abyss and then get upgraded to inception? 16:15:24 you care too much, I guess 16:15:33 how many would that even be? 16:15:38 Zannick: 0? 16:15:47 so why waste the effort? 16:15:48 -!- Vizer_ is now known as Vizer 16:15:55 depends on whether we restore save compat with 0.11 or not 16:15:57 Zannick: it's one line. 16:16:01 -!- Sunset is now known as Kacy 16:16:18 one fewer line to remove later 16:16:25 I pushed a WIP commit that _almost_ works, except for crashing with old des cache. 16:16:40 <|amethyst> Napkin: okay, http://crawl.akrasiac.org/learndb.html#test 16:17:01 which is really puzzling as the files are byte-by-byte identical with new cache except for a minor version tag, which is not even used 16:17:29 (reading map cache files doesn't pass th.getMinorVersion() to readers) 16:17:53 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:37 <|amethyst> Napkin: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/0002-Further-fix-redirect-links-in-learndb-html.pl.patch 16:20:31 <|amethyst> Napkin: #test was supposed to be chasing the redirect to summon_butterflies[4], but that didn't work because it was using the literal link "summon butterflies[4]" and not its canonical version (with an underscore) 16:21:37 <|amethyst> Napkin: there is no entry for #test2 but that's intentional because test2[1] is a broken redirect 16:22:14 <|amethyst> Napkin: it doesn't fully chase down redirections though, so even though test2[2] -> test[1] -> summon_butterflies[4], #test2[2] will only take you to the entry for 'test', not summon butterflies 16:24:48 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1417-gf41d6fb: Remove an entry vault that could trap teleporting players 10(28 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 39-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f41d6fba0482 16:25:40 that vault made some dubious sense when secret doors existed 16:27:56 Zannick: 23:16 < Zannick> one fewer line to remove later --- in an already existing #if TAG_MAJOR_VERSION == 34 block, it doesn't matter how many lines are inside 16:28:33 pre-preprocessor line counts matter! 16:28:48 =p 16:29:21 let's remove all comments then! 16:29:49 i think you missed my point =p 16:30:05 no, just extended it :p 16:30:11 ??funny messages[2] 16:30:12 funny messages[2/21]: I'm sorry, level 27 is as high as you can go. With the way you've been playing, I'm surprised you got this far. 16:30:15 who killed this 16:30:19 and how can I kill them 16:30:35 oh E isn't ^E nevermind 16:36:09 -!- dspencer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:42:13 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:44:54 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 16:47:15 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:57:00 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:58:32 heteroy (L6 OgCK) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 194 failed. 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