00:03:43 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1345-gd337936 (34)
00:08:18 <wtface> you know, the different deck types do sorta defeat the point of nemelex, and decks in general
00:08:57 <wtface> like draco was saying deck of X does X, with different flavors and powers
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02:08:45 <Cheibriados> Fix a few vaults (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6451) by st
02:09:54 <st_> elliptic: ^
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02:59:16 <Cheibriados> 03st_ 07* 0.12-a0-1346-g423a806: Fix and remove some vaults. 10(60 minutes ago, 5 files, 26+ 1455-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=423a80670d66
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07:26:53 <ChrisOelmueller> st_: <3
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09:47:11 <edlothiol> I wrote a webtiles client library in clojure
09:47:21 <edlothiol> clojure is so much more fun than c++ or javascript :(
09:48:29 * kilobyte ponders writing an operating system in brain****
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10:09:09 <elliott> fr: turn fannar into a multi-tile panlord consisting of 40 existing fannars
10:11:00 <HangedMan> fr: flavour mara to be an ice unique
10:11:03 <HangedMan> duh
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10:47:24 <kilobyte> what's the point of alarm traps having more than one charge?
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11:30:35 <phyphor> annoyance
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11:35:43 <MarvinPA> i got an error message when trying to rebuild cszo
11:35:44 <MarvinPA> rltiles/tiledef-floor.cc:3233: fatal error: opening dependency file rltiles/tiledef-floor.d: Permission denied
11:35:44 <MarvinPA> compilation terminated.
11:35:55 <|amethyst> hm
11:36:02 <|amethyst> let me check in a sec
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11:38:45 <|amethyst> try it now
11:39:15 <|amethyst> when I manually did the inception build I did so as root for some reason
11:39:25 <Sizzell> Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1346-g423a806 (34)
11:39:29 <MarvinPA> looking good
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11:40:54 <|amethyst> unseen burro
11:40:56 <|amethyst> doh
11:41:41 <bh> |amethyst: I, for one, welcome our new invisible donkey overlords.
11:41:56 <HangedMan> bh: so have you done anything with thing
11:42:11 <bh> HangedMan: the maelstrom? I'm working on fixing boring beetles.
11:42:14 <HangedMan> bh: also make abyss 9 floors and if there are future banners just
11:42:15 <HangedMan> oh
11:42:23 <HangedMan> what did you break or what is broken
11:42:39 <bh> I broke it in inception while creating/reverting the worm. It no longer bores.
11:42:42 <bh> It just bores.
11:42:54 <HangedMan> odd
11:43:52 <|amethyst> the name's still appropriate, I don't see the problem
11:44:16 <bh> wtf? I removed M_BURROWS from the boring beetle.
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11:44:34 <|amethyst> Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick!
11:46:25 <|amethyst> there are some more in the 'inception' branch, which you can play by pressing "ti" from the cszo login screen
11:46:31 <|amethyst> gah
11:47:16 <Zannick> bh: why'd you do that :P
11:47:52 <bh> Zannick: there's no accounting for taste? It was a fat fingers error. We should have a code review tool ;)
11:49:44 <|amethyst> oh, apparently gitorious does have some github-like commenting functions for merge requests
11:49:59 <|amethyst> it's just that the UI is so bad no one can find it
11:50:10 <ChrisOelmueller> like with the merge requests?
11:51:28 <bh> HangedMan: and now I will make the maelstrom.
11:51:38 <HangedMan> wonderful
11:52:54 <bh> you can come up with stats for it, I'll make the behavior.
11:53:11 <|amethyst> http://blog.gitorious.org/2009/07/15/new-merge-request-functionality/ http://blog.gitorious.org/2009/11/06/awesome-code-review/
11:53:33 <bh> "That sucks"
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11:54:06 <ChrisOelmueller> that title
11:54:24 <|amethyst> of course, since it's gitorious, you probably can't comment on any commit bigger than a certain size :/
11:54:41 <Cheibriados> 03bh 07[inception] * 0.12-a0-1382-gb4a9344: Change Boring Beetle to Exciting Beetle 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4a9344a9838
11:54:43 <bh> ??insubstantial
11:54:43 <Wenzell> I don't have a page labeled insubstantial in my learndb.
11:54:43 <|amethyst> "This object is too large to display in your browser" etc
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11:55:01 <kilobyte> ...
11:55:08 <ChrisOelmueller> the shoe spam there is also nice
11:55:14 <ChrisOelmueller> even better than That sucks
11:55:23 <ChrisOelmueller> or Where is it
11:55:58 <Eronarn> we should totally have an exciting beetle
11:55:59 <kilobyte> looks like asking for actually relevant commit messages is overdue :p
11:56:24 <Zannick> looks like someone's competing for silly commit messages
11:56:40 <kilobyte> yeah, it's getting out of hand
11:57:01 <Zannick> don't worry, if i become a committer, my commit messages will be serious
11:57:23 <Zannick> :)
11:57:45 <bh> kilobyte: it's relevant, but silly. I'll keep 'em above the board.
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11:58:12 <|amethyst> could have at least used line 2 to explain when it was broken
11:58:35 <|amethyst> well, line 3
11:58:59 <Zannick> "Make boring beetle less boring (by making it more boring)."
11:58:59 <bh> (ed6d71fc28d0affd4489a4f0d30ac6f23bbc88dd)
11:59:13 <kilobyte> I mean, I have a year old branch with commits like "Introducing DJ Inn", "They're, like, totally hot.", "Their life is magic", "Go breatharian, dude", "The munchies make 'em glow!", but these are puzzling but not totally misleading
11:59:31 <kilobyte> Zannick: oh, that one would be fine
11:59:53 <Zannick> creative but less misleading
11:59:53 <kilobyte> but for example my recent "Remove bh from the list of contributors" was not
12:00:22 <bh> kilobyte: <3 I'll be good.
12:00:33 <kilobyte> me too, I promise :p
12:00:49 <|amethyst> What about my
12:00:52 <|amethyst> %git a3d49774
12:00:52 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst * 0.11-a0-3103-ga3d4977: Nerf Mephitic Cloud :) 10(5 months ago, 3 files, 4+ 4-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3d49774ac8d
12:01:07 <ChrisOelmueller> it had a smiley
12:01:15 <bh> |amethyst: any spell that can hard crash the game is overpowered.
12:01:19 <|amethyst> smiley to indicate that the subject might not be entirely serious, and the commit message itself included technical detail
12:01:30 <ChrisOelmueller> important thing is the smiley though
12:02:14 <kilobyte> |amethyst: I'd say it's among the way-over-the-edge messages we had a recent epidemy of
12:03:11 <bh> it's on inception. I could be naughty and reset it and push a new message.
12:04:10 <kilobyte> commits that remove not yet pushed features could be squashed (preferably away), yeah
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12:12:29 <HangedMan> presumably due to whatever the hell has been happening with your crazy git shenanigans the abyss monster list is reset in inception?
12:14:45 <bh> reset?
12:15:35 <HangedMan> well, just looking at the most recent version of mon-pick in the branch on git.develz
12:17:57 <bh> I got rid of the garbage I had introduced with lousy level dependent selection. That's better left to someone who knows what he's doing
12:18:12 <HangedMan> ah
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12:25:38 <bh> HangedMan: the maelstrom is scary.
12:25:54 <Wensley_> bh: I hear there are fun new abyss monsters
12:26:00 <Wensley_> have you heard of my fun new zot monster
12:26:07 <bh> no?
12:26:12 <bh> Draco made most of the fun monsters
12:26:17 <HangedMan> I haven't either, unless it's carousel moth
12:26:23 <Wensley_> HangedMan: it is
12:26:36 <HangedMan> has there been anything resembling progres yes
12:26:41 <Eronarn> Wensley_: actually a cloud of moths in the shape of a person
12:26:52 <bh> Wensley_: why not a carousal moth?
12:26:53 <Wensley_> bh: carousel moth is a moth with a permanent enchantment of tornado except it does no damage
12:27:04 <HangedMan> and no clouds
12:27:10 <HangedMan> does it still rotate clouds
12:27:10 <Wensley_> HangedMan: I've been done with carousel moth for like four weeks
12:27:14 <HangedMan> what
12:27:18 <Wensley_> carousel moth totally has clouds
12:27:22 <Wensley_> that's the carousel
12:27:27 <HangedMan> what kind of clouds
12:27:28 <Wensley_> in fact it has more clouds than tornado
12:27:34 <Eronarn> Wensley_: make it emit colored smoke clouds
12:27:40 <Wensley_> HangedMan: I call them "clouds of delightful frivolity"
12:27:48 <Wensley_> they are WARP_COLOUR'd
12:27:50 <HangedMan> I'd prefer to not block los
12:27:54 <Wensley_> they don't
12:27:54 <HangedMan> with them clouds
12:27:57 <Wensley_> hence the new clouds
12:28:06 <Wensley_> because tloc clouds do block los
12:28:10 <Wensley_> so I couldn't use those
12:28:16 <Eronarn> you know what we need? swordnado
12:28:19 <HangedMan> for some reason I don't think they need to be called clouds of delightful frivolity
12:28:21 <Eronarn> tornado plus dancing swords
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12:28:28 <Wensley_> HangedMan: well good thing you are not a dev
12:28:37 <Wensley_> eronarn and I are the only real devs here
12:28:42 <HangedMan> wensley: so why isn't it on mantis anyway
12:28:45 <Wensley_> shadow government
12:28:52 <Wensley_> HangedMan: I just forgot
12:28:59 <HangedMan> really
12:29:01 <Wensley_> it's been sitting on my server since like thanksgiving
12:29:05 <HangedMan> fix this immediately
12:29:07 <Eronarn> i should put up black eyes on mantis, i guess
12:29:11 <Eronarn> nobody is going to try them otherwise
12:29:41 <Eronarn> (nobody will try them even if i do)
12:29:46 <Wensley_> HangedMan: well right now I have implemented it by sticking a little bit of code into the current tornado code, I don't think the devs will like this arrangement so I probably need to redo the tornado code a little bit
12:29:49 <Wensley_> make it a bit more modular
12:30:04 <Eronarn> Wensley_: make it support squarelos and hexlos while you're in there
12:30:08 <Wensley_> also I want to make it a player spell
12:30:17 <Wensley_> Eronarn: it just piggybacks off of the tornado code
12:30:21 <Wensley_> no duplication
12:30:22 <HangedMan> pff, player spell
12:30:24 <Wensley_> so make tornado work
12:30:28 <Wensley_> and it will work
12:30:29 <HangedMan> it clearly should be a pan lord spell
12:31:26 <bh> HangedMan: should the maelstrom be perma-confused?
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12:31:49 <Wensley_> ??maelstrom
12:31:49 <Wenzell> I don't have a page labeled maelstrom in my learndb.
12:31:54 <Wensley_> I must know
12:32:03 <bh> Wensley_: it's like a boring beetle that generates spatial vortices
12:32:04 <HangedMan> batty but only speed 17, perhaps
12:32:13 <Wensley_> cool
12:32:14 <HangedMan> and bends space
12:32:21 <HangedMan> bending space is crucial to it
12:33:50 <bh> HangedMan: I think the M_BURROWS ai is overriding the M_BATTY ai
12:33:58 <HangedMan> weird
12:34:34 <bh> it's basically the first thing in _set_mons_move_dir
12:40:10 <Cheibriados> Auto explore does not work. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6452) by rk107
12:40:51 <phyphor> A WORD DOCUMENT IS NOT A PICTURE FORMAT!
12:41:02 <HangedMan> sure it is
12:41:03 <HangedMan> it's useful for swatsikas
12:41:57 <kilobyte> phyphor: looks like you never receive email from business people
12:42:11 <phyphor> No, I do
12:42:15 <phyphor> ANd I bitch about it
12:43:00 <ChrisOelmueller> can you close that as invalid perhaps
12:43:11 <kilobyte> extra bonus for printing out a plain-text email you sent them, highlighting with a marker, adding some comments in pen, scanning it back, wrapping in a Word document, and only then mailing (with a subject of "Sending e-mail message", apparently Word's default)
12:43:48 <ChrisOelmueller> or do i need to add a flame comment
12:44:56 <ChrisOelmueller> finee
12:46:12 <bh> HangedMan: to avoid horrendous ai hackery, what if the maelstrom transmuted an adjacent wall into a vortex?
12:46:53 <HangedMan> by what logic would it do said transmutation
12:47:49 <bh> how would I implement it or what..?
12:47:53 <HangedMan> preferrably not too quickly but for the sake of the implementation it'd work for a draft I guess
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12:48:56 <HangedMan> also yes how would it be implemented was the question
12:49:33 <bh> use an adjacent iterator to find a wall and then pop it.
12:49:47 <HangedMan> mm
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13:23:01 <bh> HangedMan: got it.
13:25:56 <bh> bend space is going to be slightly 'eh, because it's a god ability instead of a spell
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13:53:13 <HangedMan> bh: clearly lugonu was enraptured with the effects of bend space from spatial maelstroms and that's why she gives it to abyssal knights
13:53:30 <HangedMan> bh: also soul eaters copy yred's drain life but it works out anyway
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20:26:27 <kilobyte> DracoOmega: starcursed masses currently fail to do anything to monsters
20:26:35 <kilobyte> even ones on your side
20:27:05 <DracoOmega> Oh, that's right. Um... oops? -.-
20:27:12 <DracoOmega> I can fix that!
20:27:50 <DracoOmega> I'm not sure how this slipped my mind
20:29:26 <kilobyte> not sure who should be affected... they are not intelligent, so hurting their allies would be plausible
20:29:41 <DracoOmega> Well, I figured the scream was single-target
20:29:48 <DracoOmega> But they should at least be able to hit other things with it
20:29:52 <kilobyte> (for an Abyss-only monster, that is)
20:30:07 <kilobyte> hmm, perhaps
20:30:54 <kilobyte> eh, not really: how do you target a scream?
20:31:02 <DracoOmega> Well, they're yelling in your MIND
20:31:08 <DracoOmega> It's not really noise
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20:31:23 <DracoOmega> Think of it a bit like how brain-feeding operates
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20:32:18 <DracoOmega> It's telepathic in that sense
20:33:29 <kilobyte> it's totally unobvious from the message
20:34:11 <DracoOmega> Well, I thought that was conveyed by the 'in your mind' bit
20:34:33 <Lightli> Do we have an entry vault that's a chessboard yet?
20:34:39 <kilobyte> also, are they supposed to do as much melee damage individually as merged?
20:35:21 <DracoOmega> Yes, though it could perhaps be a bit lowered overall
20:35:30 <DracoOmega> Keeping them in one large mass is supposed to be a desireable thing
20:35:44 <DracoOmega> So it shouldn't be a lot more dangerous in melee
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20:37:04 <MarvinPA> i tried them briefly and it seems like they split fairly quickly, not sure how easy it's supposed to be to keep them merged
20:37:50 <DracoOmega> Numbers may very well need adjusting. What I think is ideally best is that it's easy enough to control them if you focus on them, but they fairly quickly get out of hand if you don't
20:38:10 <MarvinPA> yeah
20:38:32 <MarvinPA> oh also if they SIZE_HUGE it seems like they should be X instead of x
20:38:35 <MarvinPA> they're*
20:38:52 <kilobyte> Xx really get stuffed
20:39:14 <MarvinPA> yeah, i wonder if there are other glyphs we can spread some of the new monsters out onto
20:39:53 <ChrisOelmueller> kilobyte: did you see the update for my patch? seems only the first one made it through
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20:40:13 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1348-gb57f638: Clean up conftest.cc after use. 10(22 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b57f638510ba
20:40:13 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1349-g0440931: Mark a function static. 10(22 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=044093161516
20:40:13 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1350-ge405948: Remove unused marshallEnumVal subsystem. 10(22 hours ago, 2 files, 1+ 158-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e405948910a2
20:40:13 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1351-g85c029f: Remove unused option to ignore write errors for save fragments. 10(13 hours ago, 2 files, 7+ 24-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=85c029f90f21
20:40:13 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1352-gbe27ec5: Let alarm traps trigger only once. 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 19-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=be27ec518696
20:40:13 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1353-g284e1e6: Remove some problematic vaults. 10(2 hours ago, 6 files, 0+ 286-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=284e1e693cda
20:40:13 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1354-g345f073: Purge descs for custom monsters from recently removed vaults. 10(84 minutes ago, 3 files, 0+ 51-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=345f0734ffc0
20:40:13 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1355-g6e4a671: Fix a compiler warning (unused function in tile builds). 10(68 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 8-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e4a671ffc09
20:40:13 <Cheibriados> 03ChrisOelmueller 07* 0.12-a0-1356-ga761345: Do not place orc sorcerers on D:6 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a761345e2818
20:40:13 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07* 0.12-a0-1357-g1777037: Ancient zymes 10(33 hours ago, 6 files, 55+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=177703740911
20:40:13 <Cheibriados> ... and 1 more commits
20:40:13 <Cheibriados> New branch created: starcursed (7 commits)
20:40:14 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07[starcursed] * 0.12-a0-1359-g777b337: Add base starcursed mass monster definition 10(6 days ago, 2 files, 13+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=777b337c9086
20:40:14 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07[starcursed] * 0.12-a0-1360-gc5073ae: Allow starcursed masses to split (up to a maximum of 12) 10(6 days ago, 2 files, 40+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5073ae8a01f
20:40:14 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07[starcursed] * 0.12-a0-1361-ge01ebdf: Teach starcursed masses how to scream. 10(5 days ago, 5 files, 83+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e01ebdfcce1c
20:40:14 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07[starcursed] * 0.12-a0-1362-g78eb3c0: Make starcursed masses merge with a neighbour when damaged. 10(3 days ago, 5 files, 73+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=78eb3c06331b
20:40:14 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07[starcursed] * 0.12-a0-1363-gffa2ac4: Make starcursed masses retreat towards each other when damaged 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 45+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ffa2ac4bcce7
20:40:14 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07[starcursed] * 0.12-a0-1364-g86652f8: Don't award full exp for killing only parts of a starcursed mass 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=86652f8faccc
20:40:14 <Cheibriados> 03DracoOmega 07[starcursed] * 0.12-a0-1365-g98e2d60: A description for starcursed masses 10(31 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=98e2d60dcb1e
20:41:25 <DracoOmega> Yeah, it would be nice to have something other than Xx to put this stuff on
20:41:26 <Zannick> 1 more commits
20:41:37 <|amethyst> hm
20:41:41 <DracoOmega> These are sort of jelly-LIKE, but making them an actual j could be confusing
20:42:00 <kilobyte> especially for Jiyvaites
20:43:59 <DracoOmega> Wait, will acid spitters really not spit at ANYTHING if you're in a sanctuary?
20:44:10 <DracoOmega> Because that's what the current code seems to imply
20:45:12 <kilobyte> I guess there's plenty of bugs in the sanctuary code
20:46:23 <DracoOmega> Well, it looks like the routine that sets up the shot checks player_or_mon_in_sanct, even if the player is not what they're aiming at
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21:11:52 <bh> !tell HangedMan give me some stats (hp/ev/ac/mr) for the maelstrom. Should it hit like a spatial vortex?
21:11:53 <Henzell> bh: OK, I'll let HangedMan know.
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21:16:50 <DracoOmega> Wow, I think this is the first time I have ever seen a HOSTILE orc knight turn into a warlord via killing something
21:17:33 <DracoOmega> (Also, starcursed masses now properly can use their ability on things that are not the player)
21:17:48 <DracoOmega> Probably a few more things left to double-check, but it basically works
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21:21:48 <hangedman> removing the fire pits vault versions that spawed in gehenna was dumb
21:21:49 <Henzell> hangedman: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them.
21:22:00 <hangedman> !messages
21:22:00 <Henzell> (1/3) Wensley said (6d 6h 38m 19s ago): ocs entry vault
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21:24:26 <hangedman> also renaming and reapplying the orc sorcerers patch missed the  full version
21:25:28 <bh> hangedman: maelstroms are summoning vortices in the wrong place and I need to give 'em bend space, but otherwise they seem to be mechanically fine
21:26:44 <bh> do I need to do something special with mgen_data to make the monster summoned? I'm setting summon duration, summon type and summoner.
21:26:47 <MarvinPA> i'll push the second orc sorcerer thing in a sec, yeah
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21:28:11 <hangedman> bh: hp 60-90, dam 20, 20 both disto since multiple disto beats stronger disto of vortexes, speed 17, mr immune, same ac/ev but one more pip on rF/C/Elec/Pois
21:29:52 <hangedman> err, for the stats !tell
21:30:03 <bh> Why do spatial vortices have MR_RES_POISON? I thought that was implied by MH_NONLIVING
21:30:22 <hangedman> who knows
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21:33:21 <DracoOmega> Okay, I've commited the fix that lets them hit more than just the player. Should I make an updated patch of the whole thing, or just one containing that commit (since I see a branch was already made for it)
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21:38:33 <MarvinPA> just the commit should be fine  i think
21:40:50 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1359-g2b552cc: Add a comment 10(33 hours ago, 1 file, 19+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b552cca4ab4
21:40:50 <Cheibriados> 03bh 07* 0.12-a0-1360-g3e07ec6: Lurking Horror 10(3 months ago, 7 files, 39+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e07ec67fe4f
21:40:50 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1361-g45826da: Don't crash when detonating lurking horrors inside a sanctuary 10(3 months ago, 2 files, 8+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=45826dadf931
21:40:50 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1362-g31ec556: Move another D:6 orc sorcerer deeper 10(35 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=31ec55613300
21:40:50 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1363-gd48ce28: Fix a zyme message 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d48ce28b43e0
21:40:50 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1364-g64abc10: Make new abyssals more common for testing 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=64abc101d999
21:42:37 <bh> MarvinPA: are those merges to master?
21:43:19 <MarvinPA> yeah, just of the two lurking horror commits from inception
21:44:50 <MarvinPA> since they don't really need the rest of the branch to be ready in order to be tested, kilobyte suggested it the other day
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21:51:12 <DracoOmega> Okay, the patch is uploaded
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21:51:44 <bh> DracoOmega: link?
21:52:19 <DracoOmega> I just attached the fix to the existing issue: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6449
21:52:45 <bh> k. I can merge it
21:53:27 <bh> Is ancient zyme done?
21:53:44 <DracoOmega> Well, it got merged about an hour ago
21:54:04 <DracoOmega> MarvinPA: Also, I don't suppose you looked at the xp-based transient mutation patch?
21:54:29 <bh> ok. I'll let Marving drive
21:55:11 <MarvinPA> only very briefly
21:55:37 <MarvinPA> probably off to sleep soon but i can take a proper look tomorrow probably
21:55:41 <DracoOmega> Okay
21:56:20 <|amethyst> hm...  I think monster res_acid() isn't right
21:56:34 <|amethyst> it will never return > 1, but there are things that check for >= 3
21:57:01 <|amethyst> and is_boolean_resist() returns false
21:59:10 <MarvinPA> hmm that starcursed patch seems to not apply
21:59:23 <bh> MarvinPA: that's why I turned things over to you ;)
21:59:28 <MarvinPA> hah :P
21:59:32 <|amethyst> so for now I'm not going to implement amulet of corrosion for monsters
21:59:42 <bh> |amethyst: if you were going to make a monster die when leaving the abyss, where would you make it die? somewhere in mon-act?
21:59:43 <DracoOmega> MarvinPA: Seems not to apply? =/
21:59:44 <MarvinPA> well okay at least that confirms it's not just my brain being nonfunctional :P
22:00:07 <|amethyst> bh:  hm
22:00:31 <MarvinPA> error: patch failed: crawl-ref/source/mon-abil.cc:877
22:00:59 <DracoOmega> Do you know what could cause that? It looked good on my end, but I've never tried to make a patch of only one commit before
22:01:16 <DracoOmega> That WAS applied to the starcursed mass branch, yes?
22:01:20 <MarvinPA> probably i can just apply it manually, i don't see what the problem is either but that's probably just because i'm tired :P
22:01:21 <MarvinPA> yeah
22:01:25 <|amethyst> bh:  yeah, I guess in something called from handle_monster_move()
22:01:39 <|amethyst> though I'd also consider just not letting them leave
22:02:02 <bh> DracoOmega: I'm seeing 98e2d60dcb1edd336a904ce5ffbe20bce26c7e33 as the head of starcursed. Where did you cut the patches from?
22:02:25 <ChrisOelmueller> |amethyst: can the player get above one pip of rAcid?
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22:02:49 <DracoOmega> Oh, ha
22:02:51 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller:  nope
22:02:53 <DracoOmega> Kilobyte must have rebased it
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22:03:07 <ChrisOelmueller> not very interested in another weirdness like monster rpois then
22:03:07 <DracoOmega> Because the last commit there is the second-last in my copy
22:03:58 <bh> |amethyst: I think it would be more fun to have them follow you through a gateway and then poof into smoke
22:03:59 <ChrisOelmueller> and i also don't see where acid would have three different protection levels for monsters
22:04:03 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller:  well, if I'm not mistaken this means jellies still take acid damage
22:04:11 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller:  since they only have one pip
22:04:28 <Cheibriados> jelly (04J) | Spd: 9 | HD: 3 | HP: 15-30 | AC/EV: 0/2 | Dam: 808(acid:7d3) | 04eats items, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 06magic(12), 03poison, 08acid, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 22 | Sz: small | Int: plant.

22:04:28 <ChrisOelmueller> %??jelly
22:04:39 <Cheibriados> jelly (04J) | Spd: 9 | HD: 3 | HP: 15-30 | AC/EV: 0/2 | Dam: 808(acid:7d3) | 04eats items, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 06magic(12), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 22 | Sz: small | Int: plant.

22:04:39 <ChrisOelmueller> %0.10?jelly
22:04:43 <ChrisOelmueller> what happened there
22:04:55 <|amethyst> mon_resist_def refactoring
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22:05:10 <DracoOmega_> Boo
22:05:11 <ChrisOelmueller> then i'd consider that a bug :)
22:05:24 <|amethyst> You spit a glob of acid. The acid hits the jelly.
22:05:24 <|amethyst> The jelly is heavily wounded.
22:06:07 <ChrisOelmueller> so what has two pips, what has three
22:06:11 <ChrisOelmueller> (ughhh)
22:06:28 <|amethyst> I'm fine with one pip being immunity for monsters
22:06:38 <DracoOmega_> But I suppose it's possible that might explain it, even if the rebased commit was only whitespace fixes?
22:06:39 <ChrisOelmueller> why not make it 0/1 and have 1 as immunity, yeah
22:07:06 <ChrisOelmueller> 3 levels don't make player decisions any more interesting there
22:07:20 <Gretell> Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1358-g715a9cb
22:07:21 <ChrisOelmueller> also why are speed 9 monsters still a thing
22:07:22 <DracoOmega_> Well, acid shows up rarely enough that more than a binary difference would be kind of hard to notice
22:07:28 <ChrisOelmueller> exactly
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22:43:04 <Lightli> Out of complete boredom, is it possible to set a monster's gender in a vault?
22:43:13 <|amethyst> no
22:43:16 <Lightli> ok
22:43:50 <|amethyst> (the ability could be added, but I don't know if it would be worthwhile)
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22:48:28 <Lightli> ??rat hd:100 spells:magic_dart
22:48:28 <Wenzell> I don't have a page labeled rat_hd100_spellsmagic_dart in my learndb.
22:48:36 <Lightli> ??rat; hd:100 spells:magic_dart
22:48:36 <Wenzell> I don't have a page labeled rat_hd100_spellsmagic_dart in my learndb.
22:48:43 <bh> use %??
22:48:45 <Lightli> $??rat; hd:100 spells:magic_dart
22:48:50 <|amethyst> no semicolon
22:48:50 <Cheibriados> Bad item name: 'hd:100'

22:48:50 <Lightli> %??rat; hd:100 spells:magic_dart
22:48:54 <Cheibriados> rat (07r) | Spd: 10 | HD: 100 | HP: 217-289 | AC/EV: 1/10 | Dam: 3 | !sil | Res: 06magic(133) | XP: 10503 | Sp: magic dart (3d16) | Sz: tiny | Int: animal.

22:48:54 <Lightli> %??rat hd:100 spells:magic_dart
22:49:09 <bh> That's a sack of HP.
22:49:17 <Lightli> Not enough.
22:49:29 <Cheibriados> hellephant (04Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 100 | HP: 777-928 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Dam: 4507(trample), 20, 15 | 05demonic, !sil | Res: 06magic(666), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: fire breath (3d200), blink | Sz: Giant | Int: animal.

22:49:29 <Lightli> %??hellephant hd:100
22:49:37 <bh> what are you trying to do?
22:49:50 <Lightli> ...I just realized this is the wrong channel oops
22:53:44 <|amethyst> I guess I should go ahead and push this
22:54:26 <Lightli> Push what?
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22:59:05 <|amethyst> a refactoring of the amulet (and other worn equipment) checks, to make it easier to support them on monsters and to fix a few bugs
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22:59:58 <DracoOmega> Does it make surpression no longer affect troll digestion? :P
23:00:02 <|amethyst> yes
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23:04:39 <|amethyst> incoming... hopefully that doesn't break anything
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23:04:58 <|amethyst> I didn't test all the affected items, but I did test a few
23:06:42 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-1365-g251c4ee: Refactor amulet and equipment-checking functions. 10(3 hours ago, 39 files, 658+ 596-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=251c4eefad2e
23:06:42 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-1366-g678b374: Identify clarity when resisting mislead. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=678b374f9638
23:06:42 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-1367-gccf4e76: Allow running ego to affect monsters. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ccf4e766a5af
23:06:42 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-1368-ga22bb09: Make monster rAcid into immunity. 10(51 minutes ago, 4 files, 7+ 5-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a22bb0955941
23:06:42 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-1369-g84ada5b: Make resist corrosion work for monsters. 10(42 minutes ago, 2 files, 10+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=84ada5bfb1bc
23:06:42 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-1370-g968cdc1: Make monsters want rCorr/preservation and running. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=968cdc1e3d70
23:07:24 <bh> adding a spell is an exercise in bookkeeping
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23:11:12 <|amethyst> !tell Wensley The gourmand fix is in
23:11:12 <Henzell> |amethyst: OK, I'll let Wensley know.
23:11:54 <bh> |amethyst: HangedMan requested bend space as a monster spell
23:12:43 <|amethyst> bh:  oh, and it's not even a spell at the moment
23:12:52 <bh> mhmm :)
23:13:00 <|amethyst> sounds fun
23:13:14 <|amethyst> I've not actually added a spell
23:13:51 <|amethyst> so other than looking at previous spell-adding commits I'm not sure of everything that needs changed
23:14:39 <|amethyst> should it have a tracer?  I guess you wouldn't want monsters bend-spacing all their friends
23:17:56 <bh> 'eh. I'm going to skip adding the spell for now. It's for a spatial maelstrom that creates spatial vortices when it runs into walls
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23:36:04 <|amethyst> CSN seems to be down
23:36:16 <|amethyst> CDO webtiles too
23:39:56 <bh> uh oh
23:46:36 <bh> |amethyst: the spatial vortices generated by my maelstrom can't be abjured. Do you think that's a consequence of being magic immune?
23:49:14 <|amethyst> see mons_is_conjured()
23:50:07 <bh> oh. derp!
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23:59:04 <|amethyst> %git :/[Zz]iggur
23:59:05 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte * 0.12-a0-219-g6a5ee95: Get rid of a crapload of uselessly passed level_number. 10(6 weeks ago, 11 files, 50+ 79-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a5ee951ccc3
23:59:06 <|amethyst> doh