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Inside, though, we already special-case teleportation... 05:51:28 kilobyte: OK, I'll let bh know. 05:52:21 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:08:02 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 06:17:51 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:20:01 -!- Grildrak has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27:55 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:35:57 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 07:01:47 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:55 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:18:21 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 07:25:05 -!- Nightmare is now known as Guest65551 07:40:14 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:41:05 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 07:56:07 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:00:00 -!- SchwaWarrior has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:17:42 -!- Guest65551 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:18:03 -!- vogonpoet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:22:07 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 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[Quit: Ik ben weg] 14:45:15 -!- aspy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:47:10 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 14:52:32 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:58:15 <|amethyst> kilobyte, edlothiol: mon-flags uses consts and says "since C++ doesn't guarantee support for 64-bit enum constants", but tile_flags is a 64-bit enum 14:58:24 <|amethyst> kilobyte, edlothiol: one or the other of those is wrong 14:58:33 <|amethyst> kilobyte, edlothiol: rwbarton pointed this out 14:58:59 -!- ark____ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:59:00 "lies waiting to happen" 15:02:25 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:05:30 I don't remember what platform can't handle them 15:05:50 it's not one we build for regularly, though 15:06:17 <|amethyst> DOS with mingw :P 15:06:31 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:31 <|amethyst> Amiga 15:07:11 %git 7cec2d55 15:07:11 03greensnark * 0.7.0-a0-2537-g7cec2d5: Replace mons_class_flags with a set of const uint64_ts, since C++ doesn't guarantee support for 64-bit enum constants, producing bizarre effects such as plants having deflect missiles. 10(2 years, 6 months ago, 2 files, 114+ 59-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7cec2d55cd5b 15:07:52 hrm, I somehow recall this happening on mainstream 32 bit platforms 15:08:11 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:08:15 <|amethyst> oh, -std=c++98 apparently makes (or used to make) enum strictly 32-bit 15:08:20 <|amethyst> in gcc 15:08:49 <|amethyst> on a platform with 32-bit ints 15:09:36 -!- Pthing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10:40 perhaps it was a problem on older compilers? I'm not sure what happens on FreeBSD now; Mac builds for older OSXes were dropped because Apple's gcc suffered from some long-fixed bugs. 15:13:26 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17:28 reading C++98 and C++11, it looks like the standard demands support for enums bigger than int 15:17:50 it's quite easy to imagine why it was not that well tested, though 15:20:31 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:23:08 <|amethyst> C++98 doesn't require a 64-bit integral type, does it? 15:23:27 <|amethyst> and if you don't have that, you won't have 64-bit enums 15:23:51 yes, I think that would be the problem 15:23:51 edlothiol: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:24:51 though I don't know if we need to support any platforms that don't have ULL 15:27:55 -!- Psyknux has quit [Quit: My work is end \(^o^)/] 15:28:52 ULL works, ULL in enums not always 15:29:32 IIRC galehar investigated the issue as well, perhaps he remembers something 15:29:38 <|amethyst> in C++98? I thought it was introduced in C99 15:29:57 <|amethyst> (and then C++11) 15:29:58 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:30:36 ((uint64_t)1)<<42 15:30:52 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2] 15:31:06 long longs are ancient 15:35:03 <|amethyst> foo.cc:4:2: warning: ISO C++ 1998 does not support ‘long long’ [-Wlong-long] 15:36:08 <|amethyst> my cstdint doesn't work with such an old C++ standard, so I don't can't test uint64_t 15:36:21 <|amethyst> s/don't // 15:36:21 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:36:49 "old"? It's too young to be the default. 15:37:03 <|amethyst> huh? 15:37:06 which is C89/C++90 15:37:57 <|amethyst> in gcc 4.3 at least g++ defaults to "gnu++98" 15:38:31 <|amethyst> which is C++98 plus some extensions (like long long) 15:38:43 <|amethyst> C does default to c89 15:40:04 hmm right, at least g++-4.7 doesn't even have C++90 mode anymore 15:40:34 not sure if it was dropped somewhere "recently", or if it's my memory that's broken 15:41:50 -!- alheris has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:58 <|amethyst> there wasn't a standard for C++ in 1990 was there? 15:42:04 <|amethyst> international standard, that is 15:42:58 <|amethyst> gcc 4.3 documentation doesn't seem to mention any earlier -std option for C++ than c++98 15:43:15 <|amethyst> but I'm sure there used to be some, since C++98 was once new :) 15:44:44 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:01 <|amethyst> -std=cfront or something 15:45:25 looks like the first standards document on C++ from ISO comes from 1998. gcc has support for C++ since 1987, though. 15:45:25 -!- Duke- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:45:28 <|amethyst> certainly you can go to a pre-C++98 language with -f flags 15:46:09 <|amethyst> yeah, and gcc was mixing C99 and C++ in their extensions since before the former was a standard :) 15:46:21 <|amethyst> s/their/its/ 15:48:04 -!- Kromgart has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:48:33 <|amethyst> FR: make crawl compile on 16-bit architectures, and port it to Windows 3.1 15:49:25 * kilobyte points to win32s, which was an installable extension to Windows 3.1. 15:49:41 gcc dropped support for win32s some time ago, though 15:51:08 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Client Quit] 15:53:15 <|amethyst> doesn't work on 286s though :P 15:55:53 -!- moohaus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:57:56 -!- ZyrKx has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:58:30 not sure if 3.1 still had real and standard modes 15:58:37 just 386-enhanced 16:00:28 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 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Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:10:18 -!- Wenzell has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:11:00 :( did someone delete the issue? 17:11:15 i guess 17:11:34 it wasn't very substantiative 17:11:51 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:12:54 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:16:23 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:17:11 -!- Wenzell has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:35 Cherry-picked 11 commits into stone_soup-0.11 17:23:35 03kilobyte 07[stone_soup-0.11] * 0.11.1-5-g00d7bbf: Gray out the Repel Missiles spell if you have the mutation. 10(10 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=00d7bbf7c6af 17:25:06 -!- mamga has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:27:52 -!- superboot has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:28:31 not sure if it'd be a good idea to cherry-pick the Triple Draw crash/cheat fix. 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