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Evo: 1, Exp: 0, HP: 1, MP: 0 14:52:41 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:53:16 i'm thinking: -1 more to the ranged ones, +1 fire, -2 ice, tmut to +3 14:53:29 inv stays at 3! 14:53:51 !apt fire 14:53:52 Fire: Dr[red]: 2!, HO: 1, Te: 1, SE: 1, DE: 1, Dr[mottled]: 1, Dr[pale]: 1, HE: 0, Ha: 0, Op: 0, Dr: 0, Hu: 0, Na: 0, Ko: 0, Dg: -1, Ds: -1, DD: -1, Ce: -1, Fe: -1, Mu: -2, Vp: -2, Sp: -2, Dr[white]: -2, Gh: -2, Mi: -3*, Mf: -3*, Tr: -3*, Og: -3* 14:53:52 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:54:00 i wonder about making them apt 3, that might be too good 14:54:12 !apt mf 14:54:12 Mf: Fighting: 1, Short: 2, Long: 1, Axes: -2, Maces: -2, Polearms: 4!, Staves: -2, Slings: -2, Bows: -2, Xbows: -2, Throw: 0, Armour: -3*, Dodge: 3, Stealth: 2, Stab: 2, Shields: 0, Traps: -1, UC: 1!, Splcast: -1, Conj: -2, Hexes: 0, Charms: 1, Summ: 0, Nec: -2, Tloc: -2, Tmut: 3!, Fire: -3*, Ice: 1, Air: -2, Earth: -2, Poison: 1, Inv: 1, Evo: 1, Exp: 0, HP: 0, MP: 0 14:54:12 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:54:27 there aren't that many 3s and 4s out there... 14:54:32 I presumed very-high fire apt was a distinguisher 14:54:44 since lava :P 14:54:56 elliott: they additionally have an enhancer boost to fire magic 14:55:04 3 + a boost seems excessive 14:55:08 however HO apts are already great, seems like you'd want to tweak more downwards than just -1 to ranged stuff if you are doing all these boosts? 14:55:09 nothing else is that good at casting a thing 14:55:25 elliott: they have DS level xp apt 14:55:32 mmm 14:55:33 !apt xp 14:55:33 Could not understand "xp" 14:55:33 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:55:35 !apt exp 14:55:35 Exp: Ha: 1!, Hu: 1!, Ko: 1!, HO: 0, Mf: 0, Op: 0, Te: 0, SE: 0, Na: 0, Og: 0, Gh: 0, Mu: -1, Vp: -1, HE: -1, Mi: -1, Ds: -1, Sp: -1, DE: -1, Dr: -1, DD: -1, Ce: -1, Tr: -1, Fe: -1, Dg: -2* 14:55:35 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:55:52 Eronarn: maybe not +3 axes? that is meant to distinguish hill orcs right now 14:55:53 or, dg i guess? weird i thought dg and ds were the same 14:55:53 !apt axes 14:55:54 Axes: HO: 3!, Mi: 2, Te: 1, DD: 1, Op: 0, Dr: 0, Hu: 0, Na: 0, Vp: -1, Ha: -1, Dg: -1, Ds: -1, Ce: -1, Ko: -1, Gh: -1, Mu: -2, HE: -2, Mf: -2, Sp: -2, SE: -2, DE: -2, Tr: -2, Og: -3*, Fe: N/A 14:55:54 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:56:42 elliott: hmm... maybe i could lower all the weapon apts by one 14:56:44 maybe just +0 in melee weapons? dunno, just thinking of things to differentiate from LO 14:57:03 plus maybe +1 in axes or something 14:57:24 if i did global -1, it'd be sb -1, long 0, axes 2, maces 0, polearms 0, staves -2, slings -2, bows -2, crossbows -2, throwing -1 14:57:24 Eronarn: I thought dg were very specifically supposed to level slower than anything else, though 14:57:48 the thing is, i don't want to make their apts that different from HO 14:58:11 buffed tmut and fire is the big one 14:58:19 !apt stealth 14:58:19 Stealth: Vp: 5!, Sp: 5!, Na: 5!, Ha: 4, Op: 4, Ko: 4, Fe: 4, DE: 3, DD: 3, HE: 2, Mf: 2, SE: 2, Gh: 2, Te: 1, Hu: 1, Dg: 0, Ds: 0, Dr: 0, HO: -1, Mu: -1, Mi: -1, Og: -1, Ce: -3, Tr: -4* 14:58:19 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:58:23 I guess they have enough properties on their own, yeah 14:58:24 !apt ce 14:58:24 Ce: Fighting: 0, Short: -1, Long: -1, Axes: -1, Maces: -1, Polearms: -1, Staves: -1, Slings: 1, Bows: 3!, Xbows: 1, Throw: 3!, Armour: -3*, Dodge: -3*, Stealth: -3, Stab: -3*, Shields: -3*, Traps: -2, UC: 0, Splcast: -3, Conj: -1, Hexes: -1, Charms: -1, Summ: -1, Nec: -1, Tloc: -1, Tmut: -1, Fire: -1, Ice: -1, Air: -1, Earth: -1, Poison: -2, Inv: 1, Evo: 0, Exp: -1, HP: 1, MP: -1 14:58:24 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:58:39 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:58:47 i might drop their stealth since they are either made of stone or made of glowing lava 14:58:54 still, there are certain things like HO being the only species with +3 axes that is being used to differentiate HO 14:59:01 so it seems bad for LO apts to step on toes like that to me 14:59:03 !apt DD 14:59:03 DD: Fighting: -1, Short: -1, Long: 0, Axes: 1, Maces: 0, Polearms: -1, Staves: -1, Slings: 1, Bows: -3, Xbows: 1, Throw: -1, Armour: 1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 3, Stab: -1, Shields: 1, Traps: 1, UC: -1, Splcast: -2, Conj: -1, Hexes: -2, Charms: -1, Summ: -1, Nec: 1, Tloc: 1, Tmut: -1, Fire: -1, Ice: -1, Air: -3, Earth: 3!, Poison: -2, Inv: 3!, Evo: 4!, Exp: -1, HP: 2, MP: 0 14:59:03 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:59:04 !apt HE 14:59:04 HE: Fighting: 0, Short: 2, Long: 2!, Axes: -2, Maces: -2, Polearms: -2, Staves: 0, Slings: -2, Bows: 3!, Xbows: 0, Throw: 1, Armour: -1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 2, Stab: -1, Shields: -1, Traps: 0, UC: -2*, Splcast: 1, Conj: 1, Hexes: 0, Charms: 2, Summ: -1, Nec: -2, Tloc: 1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 2, Earth: -2, Poison: -2, Inv: 1, Evo: 1, Exp: -1, HP: -1, MP: 2 14:59:05 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:59:06 er 14:59:08 !apt DE 14:59:08 DE: Fighting: -2*, Short: 0, Long: -1, Axes: -2, Maces: -3*, Polearms: -3*, Staves: 0, Slings: -2, Bows: 1, Xbows: -1, Throw: 1, Armour: -2, Dodge: 2, Stealth: 3, Stab: 1, Shields: -2, Traps: 0, UC: -2*, Splcast: 3!, Conj: 1, Hexes: 3, Charms: 4!, Summ: 1, Nec: 2!, Tloc: 1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 1, Ice: 1, Air: 0, Earth: 1, Poison: 1, Inv: 1, Evo: 2, Exp: -1, HP: -2, MP: 3! 14:59:08 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 14:59:23 i guess i didn't realize how different HE and DE apts were on some basic stuff 15:00:15 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:00:29 hmm, i think i will do axes to 1 15:00:39 but also sb to 1. so they are 1 for all weapons 15:00:57 !apt mi 15:00:57 Mi: Fighting: 2, Short: 1, Long: 2!, Axes: 2, Maces: 2, Polearms: 2, Staves: 2!, Slings: 1, Bows: 1, Xbows: 1, Throw: 0, Armour: 2!, Dodge: 1, Stealth: -1, Stab: -1, Shields: 2!, Traps: 0, UC: 1!, Splcast: -4, Conj: -3*, Hexes: -4*, Charms: -4*, Summ: -3*, Nec: -3*, Tloc: -3*, Tmut: -2, Fire: -3*, Ice: -3*, Air: -3, Earth: -2, Poison: -3*, Inv: 0, Evo: 0, Exp: -1, HP: 1, MP: -2* 15:00:57 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 15:01:21 or i guess they still have staves at -1 currently, if i move axes 3=>1 and shortblade 0=>1 15:02:04 maybe leave staves -1 since they aren't a thing in lava 15:02:15 !apt HO 15:02:15 HO: Fighting: 2, Short: 0, Long: 1, Axes: 3!, Maces: 1, Polearms: 1, Staves: -1, Slings: -1, Bows: -1, Xbows: -1, Throw: 0, Armour: 1, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -1, Stab: 2, Shields: 1, Traps: 0, UC: 1!, Splcast: -3, Conj: 0, Hexes: 0, Charms: -1, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -3, Fire: 1, Ice: -1, Air: -2, Earth: 0, Poison: -1, Inv: 3!, Evo: 1, Exp: 0, HP: 1, MP: 0 15:02:15 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 15:02:33 how many weapons are a thing in lava exactly 15:02:42 magic 15:02:50 are staves not allowed to be magic 15:03:00 witches 15:03:58 lowz 15:05:18 hmm, currently: ice -1 => -4, fire 1 => 2, tmut -3 => 3, earth 0 => 1, air -2 => -3, -1 to all ranged, axes 3=>1, sb 0=>1 15:05:24 i feel those are good except the last two 15:05:30 -4?? dare yourself to push the limits, -5 ice 15:05:34 maybe i will leave them at HO weapon apts (other than ranged) for now 15:05:53 I think HO are the only species with +3 to any weapon school right now 15:06:05 hm, +2 then. but i want to wait to change it too much 15:06:29 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ik ben weg] 15:06:32 i think armour/dodging should also change in the future 15:07:55 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:08:07 !learn del lorc_todo 15:08:07 lorc_todo has 9 entries, you can only delete one at a time. 15:08:10 !learn del lorc_todo[1] 15:08:10 Deleted lorc todo[1/9]: Orcish weapons/armor/beogh stuff 15:08:14 !learn add lorc_todo Beogh 15:08:14 lorc todo[9/9]: Beogh 15:08:31 ??lorc_todo 15:08:31 lorc todo[1/9]: Slow move when entering lava (see 34b4ea2ce805c9c6d40f42f410f5082cf64e8ff1 for some related code) 15:09:06 elliott: what 15:09:11 !apt sbl 15:09:12 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 15:09:12 Could not understand "sbl" 15:09:13 think i will hold off on that until later because lazy 15:09:16 !apt short blades 15:09:16 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 15:09:17 Short: Ha: 3!, Ko: 3!, HE: 2, Mf: 2, Vp: 1, Mi: 1, Sp: 1, Te: 1, HO: 0, Op: 0, DE: 0, Dr: 0, Hu: 0, Na: 0, Dg: -1, Ds: -1, SE: -1, DD: -1, Ce: -1, Gh: -1, Mu: -2, Tr: -2, Og: -4*, Fe: N/A 15:09:47 ChrisOelmueller: short blades don't count as weapons 8) 15:09:47 !apt maces 15:09:47 Couldn't open current/source/aptitudes.h for reading 15:09:48 Maces: Og: 3!, Mi: 2, HO: 1, Te: 1, Op: 0, Dr: 0, DD: 0, Hu: 0, Na: 0, Ko: 0, Dg: -1, Ds: -1, Ce: -1, Tr: -1, Gh: -1, Mu: -2, Vp: -2, HE: -2, Ha: -2, Mf: -2, SE: -2, Sp: -3*, DE: -3*, Fe: N/A 15:09:53 oh maces and merfolk right 15:09:58 ok apparently i just had an awful lapse of memory 15:10:14 Eronarn: the beogh problem is that they hurt allies right 15:10:23 elliott: yes 15:10:23 merfolk don't have +3 15:10:39 ChrisOelmueller: i didn't mean +3 15:10:42 merfolk have +4 because crawl needed an easy race 15:10:50 I think HO are the only species with +3 to any weapon school right now 15:10:51 Eronarn: clearly have beogh protect your orcs 15:10:57 elliott: that is my plan yes 15:11:00 ChrisOelmueller: I mean I was including >+3 too 15:11:03 mm 15:11:03 but was just very wrong 15:11:10 yes we can leave it like that 15:11:16 always horribly wrong 15:11:21 Eronarn: I guess that means beogh should protect regular hill orc allies from immolation too 15:11:24 but that will ruin so much great tv :( 15:11:33 elliott: well if beogh penance everything dies 15:11:49 ??lorc_todo[2] 15:11:49 lorc todo[2/9]: Remove lava blood code 15:12:38 !learn del lorc_todo[2] 15:12:38 Deleted lorc todo[2/9]: Remove lava blood code 15:12:39 ??lorc_todo[2] 15:12:39 lorc todo[2/8]: Fix lorc apts 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DracoOmega: orc followers turning on you is a penance effect 15:43:12 i.e. they don't all instantly turn on you, but when you get hit with wrath 15:43:18 there's a chance some will 15:56:30 -!- kek has quit [Quit: gonna suicide, brb] 15:56:56 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:57:27 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:17 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:00:27 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 16:01:13 -!- Foodahn has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:06:06 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:06:49 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:31 -!- syllogism has quit [] 16:10:41 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:21 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:15:06 -!- Guest42069 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:15:54 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:17:37 !learn del lorc_todo[3] 16:17:38 Deleted lorc todo[3/6]: Make sure the descriptions and abilities match 16:17:39 ??lorc_todo[3] 16:17:40 lorc todo[3/5]: Make gaining/losing stoneskin less spammy 16:17:43 meh 16:17:45 ??lorc_todo[4] 16:17:45 lorc todo[4/5]: Recalibrate tension 16:22:40 !learn del lorc_todo[4] 16:22:40 Deleted lorc todo[4/5]: Recalibrate tension 16:22:43 ??lorc_todo[4] 16:22:43 lorc todo[4/4]: Beogh 16:22:58 welp, that's everything i think needs to get done before they are trunk-ready 16:23:16 do they need tiles? 16:23:19 or 16:23:20 ontoclasm: someone made some 16:23:25 wait i made some before 16:23:36 i need to figure out how to use the tiles though, good point 16:23:42 where is the code where it picks tiles for stuff like dracs 16:23:52 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:23:57 dracs have their own little code block 16:24:04 if you just commit them i'll do the tiles stuff 16:24:19 i assume you mean they should change tiles based on temperature or something? 16:24:24 ontoclasm: i'll push it to my github, if you wanna issue a pull request there, that way kilo only needs to pull in one thing 16:24:27 yeah 16:26:04 ontoclasm: https://github.com/Eronarn/Crawling-Chaos/tree/lava_orc 16:26:21 there is a function in mon-stuff that says which color the lorc should be 16:26:41 return (temp > TEMP_FIRE) ? LIGHTRED : (temp > TEMP_HOT) ? RED : (temp > TEMP_WARM) ? YELLOW : (temp > TEMP_ROOM) ? WHITE : (temp > TEMP_COOL) ? LIGHTCYAN : (temp > TEMP_COLD) ? LIGHTBLUE : BLUE; 16:26:45 } 16:27:07 cool 16:27:24 i think the tiles you had had like 5 versions? 16:27:28 7 would be ideal 16:27:42 i think i only did 3, but it's not hard to make more 16:27:52 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: SurpriseTRex] 16:28:13 at the last two they should possibly look like they are radiating heat, if the passive heat effect doesn't have a tile? idk how that works 16:28:26 and there's also the heat aura effect (like halo), i guess that needs a tile too 16:28:50 i'm not entirely sure how halos get displayed, but i'll try and figure it out 16:28:59 as far as i'm concerned tiles doesn't exist so 16:29:10 tiles that get layered have this weird packing function 16:29:43 i just tried to look it up 16:29:45 now i want to cry 16:29:50 what is even going on there 16:29:59 ahyep 16:30:53 Eronarn: welcome to crawl code 16:30:58 yeah, there's so many different ways tiles get picked and combined, I wish I could rewrite it all... 16:33:01 !tell kilobyte Pushed to my github lava_orc branch, it's ready to go in trunk except for the stuff in ??lorc_todo (none of this should be blockers) - they need testing for the tension stuff in particular as I dramatically changed the formula 16:33:01 Eronarn: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 16:33:27 did you change how tension works for everything, or just lorcs? 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17:51:01 oh my 17:51:07 just enjoying a nice quit session 17:51:43 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 17:52:16 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:58 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 17:54:33 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:26 -!- alefury has quit [] 17:56:14 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 17:56:49 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:58:29 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 17:59:27 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:44 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 18:01:47 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:43 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:58 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 18:03:20 -!- Sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:03:34 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:05:14 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 18:05:34 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:06:12 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:21 could maybe set +b on the nick and then !message him, if this is too annoying 18:06:36 although there's no discussion right now so it doesnt matter 18:07:29 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 18:08:32 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:49 -!- faze has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:02 2 small proposals: rename the halo status bar effect to "Lit" instead of "Glow", set show_inventory_weights to true by default 18:10:44 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 18:10:51 +1 to both 18:10:55 show_inventory_rates: definitely, I'm surprised it's still off by default. I think there was some opposition (dpeg?) but most are in favour 18:11:09 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:11:13 as for the glow thing, imo I would prefer to just revert the whole "Glow Contam" nonsense and go back to the way it was before 18:11:15 it's hard to manage your inventory with it shown off if you have low str 18:12:05 evilmike: yeah, i guess i don't have strong feelings either way, but having the old magic contam status bar thing become a new unrelated status bar item seems confusing 18:12:13 I guess we can keep calling it "Contam", but I find the "Glow" status light to be kind of silly, when it's easy to tell when you're glowing without it 18:12:26 right 18:12:42 that works too 18:12:48 you are immersed in a halo 18:12:59 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 18:13:02 yeah pretty much everything that makes you glow does it in a completely logical way 18:13:04 it's also rarely used outside of holy pan 18:13:06 seems like it'll be even more confusing for newbies who hear people talk about glow, but it only takes only one learndb entry to educate them, I suppose 18:13:13 like, you're on fire. Of course you're going to be glowing :P 18:13:19 mennas, and a couple altar vaults/abyss 18:13:20 evilmike: lol yeah 18:13:21 oh, it'd mean there's no status light for corona, I think 18:13:28 not that players get corona'd much (although it is now an ench miscast0 18:13:30 *) 18:13:33 oh, corona can keep a blue "Glow" then. 18:13:45 i'd prefer Lit even then, personally 18:13:54 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:51 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]] 18:15:14 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 18:15:24 Lit sounds strange to me, I'd tend to agree with evilmike that the status light is just unnecessary 18:16:02 "Backlit" could be clearer, though more verbose... probably it could just go entirely 18:16:13 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:25 seems worth having even if just for the case when you're haloed in a corridor 18:16:36 xing the floor constantly is annoying 18:16:48 well, not that it really matters for haloes 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timeout: 260 seconds] 21:44:00 -!- ZebTM_ has quit [] 21:45:56 i'm lost :( 21:46:14 what causes merfolk to redraw their base tile whenever they get into or out of water 21:47:30 aha, found it 21:47:32 ignore me 21:47:57 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:06:08 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:06:13 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 22:08:47 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:09:38 -!- Adder has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:10:54 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:10:55 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 22:12:36 -!- mineral_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:15:57 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:16:17 -!- afd__ has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 22:17:27 -!- elliott has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:19 -!- mineral_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:22:54 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:29:34 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:30:26 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##crawl-dev 23:21:21 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:21:47 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:25:50 -!- Soundlust has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29:20 okay, i've gotten everything working but it's crashng for no reason i can see :( 23:30:37 -!- mineral_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:33:47 -!- Krag has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 23:41:16 ontoclasm1: what's your diff? 23:41:21 maybe there is some obvious C++ error I can spot 23:44:25 sec, let me upload it 23:44:36 it crashes whenever a monster comes into view 23:47:17 -!- Tijol has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:47:20 -!- triliyn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:53:01 http://pastie.org/5386129 23:53:43 the assert it gives me is idx >= TILE_WALL_MAX && idx < TILE_FEAT_MAX 23:53:50 in tiledef-feat 23:54:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:54:05 which sounds like it's trying to load a feature tile out of range 23:54:50 ontoclasm1: i think the problem is you added things to dc-feat.txt 23:55:08 i know, astonishing :) 23:55:20 well, i figured that 23:55:33 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 23:55:34 hm 23:55:45 do i need to declare them somewhere? 23:55:54 but I can't figure out what dc-feat.txt corresponds to 23:56:03 there's ETC_ORB_GLOW in colour.h, but I can't find quad_glow 23:56:41 not sure, I'm afraid 23:56:45 it turns out there are like 12 different mechanisms for showing effects on tiles! 23:56:56 but the actual effect itself shows up perfectly 23:57:40 it only crashes when a monster comes into view, and if i ignore the assert the only visible glitch is that the monster shows up with a tree behind it in the monster list 23:57:45 so 23:57:50 i find myself flummoxed 23:59:37 well 23:59:39 I blame tiles :)