00:03:54 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1045-g7838db3 (34) 00:05:24 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1045-g7838db3 (34) 00:07:14 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:26 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:17:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:18:03 -!- G-Flex has quit [] 00:19:09 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:31 -!- ontoclasm2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:20:32 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1045-g7838db3 00:21:08 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:23:14 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:25:25 -!- knaveightt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:29:37 -!- ontoclasm2 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:50 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:39:01 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:40:27 -!- ontoclasm2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:40:47 -!- Kitarity has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:47:06 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:48:07 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:39 -!- ontoclasm2 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:57 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:52:31 -!- Grildrak has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:55:16 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:56:00 hm 01:05:35 -!- ontoclasm2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:10:13 -!- Raycaster has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:22:28 -!- [1]Raycaster has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:23:55 -!- Raycaster has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:23:56 -!- [1]Raycaster is now known as Raycaster 01:32:44 kilobyte, the problem is that dgn_register_place is only called after the Vault:$ vault is built, before that vaults_end_rune is not recorded in you.uniq_map_names, and therefore gets merrily picked multiple times 01:48:52 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:51:23 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:58:24 -!- Vladimir_ has quit [Client Quit] 02:00:21 -!- smeea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:06:22 kilobyte, mapdef::map_already_used could be changed to check you.new_subvault_{names,tags}. Or it could be worked around by using dgn.persist instead of relying on dgn.map_by_tag to return the vault only once. 02:07:04 kilobyte, or maybe not dgn.persist, seeing how it all happens within one vault placement 02:07:54 is there a style guide for crawl? 02:09:05 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:09:44 faze, you mean coding style? 02:11:07 -!- CaptainPlatypus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11:18 yes 02:11:30 there's docs/develop/coding_conventions.txt 02:11:35 ah, cool. thanks 02:18:01 yay, testing my "allow training weapons you have in your inventory if you have a cursed weapon wielded" patch :) 02:18:24 the brand stuff should still work 02:18:47 not allowing a player to train short blades if they only have a distortion dagger and nothing elese 02:19:01 huh, why not? 02:19:07 I think that should be allowed 02:19:09 because it isn't swappable 02:19:15 well the idea is to simplify right? 02:19:18 you cannot freely swap a disto dagger 02:19:21 well, yes 02:19:24 you might not want to wield it, but with a cursed mace and a regular dagger in your inventory you *can't* wield it 02:19:30 so allowing the latter but not the former seems really weird 02:19:32 but i added two lines and kept the current brand behavior 02:19:38 i suppose you are right 02:20:05 but if you really wanted to train short blades, you'd have one you *could* swap to and away from, given the chance 02:20:25 i guess the disto/vamp/holy cases are super rare anyways 02:20:43 how often are you a mummy with a single holy dagger than wants to train short blades and can't find another dagger 02:21:05 or you only have a vamp axe and no other axes and want to train axes 02:21:31 i think it is ok for mummies to be able to train with just a holy weapon of the relevant type if it saves complexity elsewhere 02:21:33 since it is such an edge-case 02:21:36 indeed 02:21:46 the edge cases were already covered, so i left them in. 02:21:57 i'll remove that check if my code works as anticipated 02:22:12 it's just a single if statement 02:22:52 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23:43 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:50 hmm, i guess that didn't work.. 02:28:01 tychotesla (L7 DDFi) (D (Sprint)) 02:34:25 yay i did it 02:35:59 -!- Wehk has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:44:44 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 02:48:41 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:48:52 -!- Wehk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:03 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:57 Remove cursed weapon/brand training restrictions. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6374) by pivotal 02:55:05 -!- Ashenden has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:58:56 -!- Arkanis has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:00:15 -!- Wehk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:00:17 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:21 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:46 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:11:57 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 03:29:08 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:21 -!- Insomniak has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32:36 -!- Wehk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:34:24 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 03:37:08 -!- Tabesh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:37:31 -!- Dixie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:44:10 I am going to attempt an auto-eat settings menu similar to the autopickup exceptions menu 03:46:55 lambinvoker (L27 MfSk) (Geh:7) 03:54:03 -!- Pepe[netbook] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:54:36 -!- Satans_mechanic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:55:03 Damn, I feel kind of bad now. 03:55:15 :( 03:55:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:56:56 !lm lambinvoker crash -log 03:56:57 1. lambinvoker, XL27 MfSk, T:122504 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.11/lambinvoker/crash-lambinvoker-20121112-094654.txt 03:57:24 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 04:04:42 -!- Villadelfia has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:08:19 -!- Villadelfia has joined ##crawl-dev 04:09:38 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:10:15 faze: that doesn't really seem like something that you'd want to change over the course of a game to me 04:11:53 -!- Adeon has quit [Quit: yoink] 04:20:16 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:20:41 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 04:21:58 -!- eb has quit [] 04:24:19 -!- evilmike has quit [] 04:28:43 Zaba: looking at vault names/tags (of four types!) among subvaults scheduled for addition would duplicate a good deal of code (that's the whole purpose these structures exist for) 04:29:11 the vault tags don't get currently converted into the four needed types until they actually get registered 04:29:58 the other way would be some kind of an undo list... which gets complicated if, for some reason, a vault already placed gets placed again 04:30:09 can this ever happen outside of wizmode? 04:30:39 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:36:24 vaults can be set to allow duplicates, if that's what you mean? 04:37:07 kilobyte, non-allow_dup vaults should never be picked or placed twice outside wizmode 04:38:24 right, so when undoing registration we don't need to care what the previous value was 04:38:30 MarvinPA: i was thinking about adding a permafood toggle. the menu would just expose more people to the options. 04:39:09 MarvinPA, kilobyte: has a consensus on allowing training of other weapon skills with a cursed weapon been reached yet? 04:39:12 just curious 04:39:33 mm, i still wouldn't think that's particularly worth a menu of its own though 04:39:50 does adding -2 lines of code get me added to credits.txt? :P (assuming the patch is accepted) 04:39:55 ok 04:40:00 faze: galehar grumbles about that but he's mostly ok 04:40:09 what do you guys think about a permafood autoeat toggle? 04:40:34 faze: not sure why anyone would autoeat permafood 04:40:34 either through rc or keybind, but i haven't looked at the keybinds file yet 04:40:42 kilobyte: crypt, tomb, hell, pan 04:40:59 it would be a rarely toggled option for a small subset of players i guess 04:41:07 i wasn't sure how you guys felt about new rc options 04:41:09 i can't imagine using it myself 04:41:16 i noticed that a lot have been deleted lately 04:41:24 a lot of options got removed over the last couple of days, yeah :P 04:41:25 Crypt is crawling with necromancers and hell knights 04:41:30 i guess it isn't super annoying since permafood requires fewer eats per turn 04:41:52 6947689698936 animal-themed demons got changed to drop corpse too so Hell isn't that foodless either 04:41:53 i just want a small, relatively easy feature to implement. i suppose i could fix a bug instead :P 04:42:34 the cursed weapon patch i did removed the brand check 04:42:39 not sure if anyone looked at it yet. 04:43:14 this option might feel useful for some, I'm not that sure if it's a good idea to have it be an option. You can't easily toggle those from inside the game... 04:43:23 perhaps a lua call instead? 04:43:43 kilobyte: for permafood autoeating? 04:44:02 you can bind a lua function to a key i assume 04:44:48 kilobyte, well, you.new_subvault_foo is already a sort of an undo list, in that they get saved if the vault ends up being successfully placed, and discarded otherwise 04:45:05 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 04:46:44 kilobyte: ime there isnt really food in hells? 04:47:20 kilobyte: demons, undead, occasionally dragons but mostly in hell ends 04:47:58 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:00:04 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1045-g7838db3 05:01:27 are certain vault files "consumed" after building crawl? 05:02:10 .des files are not touched by the build process in any way 05:02:18 hmm 05:02:21 what about once you play? 05:02:29 how about i explain what happened :P 05:02:33 they're only read 05:02:35 hmm 05:02:43 for some reason, i was missing some .des files 05:02:59 i was getting hits grepping for "spearthrower" in saves/des 05:03:39 i did `strings vaults_crystal.des` and it was referencing crawl-ref/source/dat/des/serial/vaults_crystal.des, which wasn't there 05:03:51 saves/des is generated from dat/des on startup 05:03:57 hmm 05:04:20 so some files *are* consumed from source/dat/des into a compiled format? 05:04:35 when you play a game 05:04:51 the files in dat/des are not changed by that, they're read on startup and written out in compiled form into saves/des 05:04:58 ah, ok 05:05:09 what do you do if you want to look at the uncompiled files? 05:05:20 you look in dat/des 05:05:26 they were not in there 05:05:35 this one specifically wasn't 05:05:39 well, you removed them somehow by accident - happens to everyone 05:05:42 ah ok 05:05:51 just git checkout them :P 05:05:51 i'll build and play a game and see if it happens again 05:05:57 hehe yes 05:06:11 when i did git status, nothing showed up about them being missing 05:06:38 i must've messed up somewhere, hehe 05:09:31 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 05:13:54 could it possibly be from doing `git checkout `, then `git checkout master` again? 05:14:13 the commit was from march 2012 05:16:21 possibly 05:20:27 "git status" would mention that 05:20:41 unless you actually did commit that change 05:23:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 05:27:47 hmm. it is a mystery! 05:28:48 so what does git checkout dat/des/serial/vaults_crystal.des say? 05:45:39 -!- Staplegun has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:47:33 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:54:28 -!- Mottie has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:11:19 -!- Tabesh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:16:09 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:16:36 -!- _D_ has quit [Client Quit] 06:19:38 -!- Domassus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:23:22 hmm, wpnnoise.txt has a lot of cases of things like "your weapon swears[| loudly]!", but that seems to only ever result in "your weapon swears loudly!" 06:24:11 -!- faze_ has quit [Client Quit] 06:24:44 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:24:52 not sure if that's the wrong syntax? or if the random choice isn't working properly there 06:25:13 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:45 -!- Damrod has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:32:17 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:39:19 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:40:10 MarvinPA: haha 06:40:32 are you trying to fix the "spearthrower statue throws crystal spear at you" 06:42:32 nah, someone reported getting a line like "your weapon [shouts|sings|whatever]!" as the actual ingame speech instead of it being randomised, and then i noticed the randomisation not working in other cases too 06:43:54 ah 06:48:00 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:48:54 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:51:06 are you fixin text bugs 06:51:42 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:51:42 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 06:56:54 whenever polyphemus first comes into view he says his 'attack, my pets!' line but it prints in lightgrey instead of white 06:57:00 high-priority speech bug 06:57:14 omg. 06:57:25 FR: Remove all speech. 06:57:42 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1046-g0337339: Fix some weapon speech lines 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0337339d291c 06:57:49 Reasons: Too many bugs, hinders translation effort. 07:16:04 I've been seeing crashes when my terminal is resized,. 07:23:00 resize crashes relates to speech? 07:23:28 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:23:39 a textless roguelike is an interesting concept. 07:23:50 FR: a level where everything is muted 07:27:18 Crash not related to speech. 07:27:25 THe stuff abotu speech wasn't very serious. 07:31:39 hey, it worked for those lego games, why shouldn't it work for the GUI DCSS versions? they obviously don't like letters otherwise they would play the console version :) 07:32:03 i was deadly serious about the polyphemus bug 07:33:01 i looked for a bit and can't figure out why he says that line in particular 07:33:20 so it will have to go unfixed for now! :( 07:33:33 my bugs are the best bugs 07:33:48 impossibugs 07:37:21 best bugs are none's bugs 07:48:58 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 07:59:30 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 08:11:27 -!- freefall has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:25:25 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:29:26 -!- BoredOne has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:45:33 -!- jiero has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.2/20121025212310]] 08:50:25 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:51:19 -!- Heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.2/20121024073032]] 08:58:21 the Firestorm targetter is pretty dumb wrt the default place 08:58:41 especially that it randomly chooses either something near an enemy, or you (even if enemies are in range) 08:59:54 even selecting a place near an enemy is bad as it often chooses a spot that would hit the enemy only for rare big firestorms, even if you can place a small one that's still in range 09:00:23 (ok, with 200 power, not that rare, but still nowhere near guaranteed, and so few characters have 200 power) 09:01:36 kilobyte: Also Vampiric Draining. 09:03:16 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:04:09 I'd use something like the monster logic (just with a far bigger weight for friendlies; you'll get a prompt in such cases though): enemies are weighted by vulnerability (and perhaps threat as well) -- most importantly, weights multiplied by whatever the chance for a big storm is 09:04:17 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:07 asking instead of coding that outright since elliptic strongly dislikes AI in the player interface, preferring dumb but obvious 09:05:35 although in this case there's no obviousness to break, with that randomly targetting you instead of an enemy 09:16:18 -!- CeleryMan has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:18:55 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:21:50 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:30:31 -!- Dixbert has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:32:53 -!- kek has quit [Quit: gonna suicide, brb] 09:48:26 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:30 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: tschüssi] 09:52:11 -!- User82 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:22 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:31 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:29 -!- User82 has quit [Quit: User82] 10:13:34 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.2/20121024073032]] 10:18:30 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28:06 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:33:54 -!- elliott has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:35:02 -!- Jinxed has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:36:01 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ik ben weg] 10:36:33 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:38:13 -!- lexackson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:31 hello devs 10:39:03 i'mma play inception 10:39:07 is it in trunk? 10:39:25 no 10:39:33 okay, thanks 10:39:34 its in a branch 10:39:58 so you can build it easily 10:40:07 might even be on some server? i don't know. 10:40:33 i saw the branch, but i thought i'd check if it was in trunk 10:40:34 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:41:49 kilobyte: imo with firestorm smart but unobvious targeting is not a problem at all: firestorm takes so much MP that you generally think about where to cast it. Tab on the other hand is spammed, so having an obvious result is important so the decision whether to tab can be very quick. Also what you said, no obviousness to break in case of firestorm. 10:42:26 also firestorm has prompts if you try to do something stupid 10:46:04 re smarter autofight: there could be a smart_autofight option, default value to be determined. i think everyone agrees that a very smart but unobvious autofight would be better than a dumb but obvious one, the problem is that it would be worse during the incremental process of becoming very smart. 10:51:40 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:54:39 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 10:57:58 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:58:11 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:59:17 -!- pointsofdata has quit [Client Quit] 11:04:35 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:04 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:50 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 11:15:24 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Client Quit] 11:19:39 -!- UbAh has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:16 alefury: so you need to rest a turn or two between storms, how is that a problem? 11:24:10 alefury: it was you who told me to bind . to aa, so it's not like you don't know the spam use case :p 11:29:52 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:03 -!- Mottie has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:17 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:33:34 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:33:35 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 11:36:55 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:47:51 kilobyte: huh? no problem, im all "yay smarter targeting". 11:55:46 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:34 btw, hows the crawl survey going? wasnt the plan to evaluate it some time after the 0.11 tourney? isnt that now? 12:03:37 alefury: let's remind dpeg 12:04:06 !tell dpeg what's going on with the crawl survey? Wasn't the plan to wrap it up when the tourney finishes? 12:04:07 kilobyte: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 12:04:34 about manuals: is there any reason to NOT study them for the whole time they're in the inventory? 12:04:56 if you don't want the skill in question, you'd be not training it 12:09:47 nope, if you want the skill you should train it. the point is the discount might make you want a skill you would otherwise not get or get later. 12:09:51 -!- Jinxed has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:10:11 s/train/read the manual on/ 12:10:13 kilobyte: what about the case where you have more than one manual? 12:10:22 it's not like i wouldn't *want* to read both 12:10:44 but that's impossible currently 12:11:12 so i don't think it's a good idea to make more implicit things that do not happen under certain circumstances (such as R removing stuff without prompt sometimes) 12:11:48 if you'd just activate all manuals upon picking up and until dropping / exhausting them, sure 12:12:07 If we're talking about things like R, can I re-propose the idea that wielding, wearing and putting on items as separate actions doesn't seem necessaRY 12:12:44 There's admittedly the edge case where people want to wield something that isn't a weapon, but other than stunt purposes I can't see why they would, now 12:12:52 kilobyte: of course that's bring up the question whether two manuals of ice magic can be active at the same time :) 12:13:00 ChrisOelmueller: just use the one with less pages left 12:13:28 well yes, but that'd mean that sometimes picking up manuals will not activate them again 12:15:42 whats wrong with the status quo? 12:15:51 pick up, press y, done 12:15:59 alefury: you need to activate them, and that's pointless 12:16:27 you already chose to train skill X 12:17:03 -!- pointsofdata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17:05 the only difference between using the manual now or later is that you don't get to use the skill points you paid for in the meantime 12:17:08 how about IDing on pickup? this is starting to sound like the spellbook id discussion all over 12:17:27 there's no Trog for manuals 12:18:00 (not that that's a great reason, but at least it's some...) 12:18:03 right, but in the spellbook discussion people concluded that the extra piety for burning unided books might as well be removed 12:18:12 trog was not the main reason for that, yes 12:18:40 on the other hand, manuals are rather rare and in general more interesting to most chars 12:18:54 identifying and activating on pickup seems reasonable to me 12:19:03 in general i dont give half a shit about most manuals because there are a lot of skills and i dont want most of them 12:19:36 also it's counterintuitive that you can "study" a skill and not train it at all 12:19:51 i think manuals just always being active automatically would be fine 12:19:52 (it does nothing except wasting an inventory slot and 10 aut) 12:21:10 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:05 -!- johnthebear has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:29:19 -!- Frisco has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:32:53 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:36 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:10 -!- Tijol has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:44:30 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20120715100958]] 12:45:32 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:43 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:29 -!- hagb4rd has quit [Quit: hagb4rd] 13:06:56 -!- scummos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:10:53 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:15:40 -!- rkd has quit [] 13:28:32 -!- blabber_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:32 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:33:30 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:53 -!- marcmagus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:37:06 -!- Dixie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:41:28 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:41:34 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:44:45 -!- Dixbert is now known as Dixie 13:49:36 mmm, -140 hp on storming a single mirrored DDDK. <3 200 power. 13:51:54 -!- pointsofdata has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:55:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:56:38 -!- Lassee- has quit [Client Quit] 13:56:46 -!- Xares has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:07 -!- Lasse- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:05:56 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:58 -!- Pthing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:17:08 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:17:08 -!- Tol_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:17:08 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:18:23 -!- rustin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:18:48 -!- garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:19:00 -!- ark____ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:30:34 -!- syllogism has quit [] 14:34:37 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 14:45:28 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-1047-gf7e9bf6: Remove the forget stash command 10(70 seconds ago, 5 files, 4+ 16-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7e9bf6d04fa 14:45:54 -!- pointsofdata has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:47:48 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:48:14 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:01 MarvinPA: would i need to also edit some wiki pages or is this patch sufficient? http://bpaste.net/raw/oNIOwGxs55ADJCEja8Hz/ 14:49:46 not like anybody ever looks at that list but it was too horrible 14:49:51 hah, nice 14:50:01 what wiki pages would need editing? 14:50:14 well some manual pages are synced with some doc files 14:50:30 i guess that's not the case with docs/develop/ then 14:50:37 oh right, i think the actual manual is the only file that's properly synced 14:52:58 -!- Tol_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:13 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:13 -!- garhauk_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:55:03 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:55:03 -!- Ashenden has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:55:28 -!- yogidabear has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:58:41 caught another one too, it claimed 'w' was larvae :P 14:58:46 pushed, thanks! 14:58:47 mm 15:00:45 03ChrisOelmueller 07* 0.12-a0-1048-ge753fef: Update list of monster glyphs in monster_speech docs 10(64 minutes ago, 2 files, 45+ 38-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e753fefb8b1b 15:00:49 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:07:38 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:22:28 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:24:39 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:31:00 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]] 15:31:21 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ik ben weg] 15:36:31 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44:29 -!- irrimn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:57 03edlothiol 07* 0.12-a0-1049-gb7d1500: Add a javascript implementation of INFLATE. 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 2169+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7d150073641 15:46:57 03edlothiol 07* 0.12-a0-1050-g5bb0542: Compress Webtiles messages even without support from the browser. 10(3 days ago, 3 files, 80+ 36-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bb05427dbcb 15:46:57 03edlothiol 07* 0.12-a0-1051-gfb1e291: Fix a bug in the decompression code. 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 18+ 12-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb1e291c4aef 15:47:48 -!- blabber_ has quit [Quit: gn8] 15:49:51 -!- Tijol has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:50:23 -!- knaveightt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:00:34 -!- Psyknux has quit [Quit: My work is end \(^o^)/] 16:02:12 03edlothiol 07* 0.12-a0-1052-ge2ad5a4: Remove a lingering print statement. 10(76 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2ad5a459ab3 16:04:26 |amethyst: these changes are going to require a server restart, although we don't need to rush it 16:06:20 |amethyst: I am wary of potentially hard-to-find bugs with this, so I think it'd be best not to apply it on all servers at once 16:07:10 -!- Zephryn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:07 -!- kek has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:24:11 ROTFL. Take a look at my screen on CDO... 16:24:36 (Xom's divine lightning went off, killing Menkaure and setting off the inner flame...) 16:24:54 haha, nice 16:25:48 i guess because you can't die from xom divine lightning but the inner flame damage happens after it's set your hp back to 1 maybe? 16:26:18 not sure, but the display shows something a wee bit lower than 1 16:26:18 or maybe it'll get set to 1 after you level up, dunno exactly how the escape death thing there works 16:26:27 yeah :P 16:26:38 haha 16:26:40 haha 16:28:59 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 16:43:19 -!- Lasse- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:46:51 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:47:04 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:50:01 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52:18 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:11 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59:55 -!- Pthing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:10 -!- CeleryMan has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:14 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:03:29 So, I've been doing research to bolster my proposal of a new race: Scorpion-men. I made a pastebin with my research/thoughts on the idea. http://pastebin.ca/2251105 17:08:37 crawl's scorpions do not move fast 17:08:57 True, but they should. 17:09:07 not going into detail since i'm not sure i know what you're trying to achieve with that race, but i would absolutely never play something with innate blurry vision 17:09:50 scorpions also are vulnerable to poison, the immunity proposed there is thus weird 17:10:21 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:11:05 Not according to the wiki... 17:11:13 which wiki 17:11:20 scorpion (08s) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 9-24 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 1004(medium poison) | Res: 06magic(12) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 37 | Sz: small | Int: insect. 17:11:20 %??scorpion 17:11:20 Emperor Scorpion has no vulns and is resistant to poison. 17:11:20 guess 17:11:25 http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Emperor_scorpion 17:11:49 emperor scorpions do actually have rpois iirc 17:11:54 emperor scorpion (15s) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 96-139 | AC/EV: 20/12 | Dam: 3008(nasty poison), 15, 15 | Res: 06magic(56), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 1675 | Sz: Giant | Int: insect. 17:11:54 %??emperor scorpion 17:11:59 yeah 17:12:13 sorta weird but maybe ther'es a good reason 17:12:24 Also my logic with the speed thing is more legs generally = faster moving. 17:12:24 probably more of a balance reason there 17:13:55 As for blurry vision, it's a fact that scorpions has naturally bad vision but excellent other senses. 17:14:32 -!- Ashenden has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:14:42 The character race would be a mostly stealth/speed caster or melee fighter that specializes in disabling their opponents. 17:14:45 that doesn't make it a good species innate 17:15:33 True, but their prowess in unarmed combat would be amazing considering they have claws, spines, and a sting attack. 17:15:33 current blurry vision sucks like halflings 17:15:34 it's a pretty significant bad mutation 17:15:47 it _could_ be made more interesting, though 17:16:07 I'm open to suggestions. I just think this would be a really interesting race... 17:17:08 Of course, I'm going off the idea of a scorpion man with the arms of a scorpion... if we go off other mythology of arms and head of a human, then blurry vision wouldn't make as much sense. 17:17:22 (More like a centaur hybrid.) 17:18:10 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:18:19 "scorpion man"? So what there is non-scorpion? 17:18:39 What do you mean? 17:19:05 "scorpion man" suggests there's something more than just a sentient animal 17:19:06 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:13 perhaps I misunderstood 17:19:32 Ohhhh. No it' 17:19:39 It's not just a sentient scorpion. 17:20:00 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:01 -!- antrees has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:01 -!- Pacra has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:01 -!- pantaril has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:02 -!- helsbecter has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:02 -!- LoremIpsum has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:02 -!- Chousuke has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:02 -!- Sabaki has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:02 -!- medgno has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:02 -!- TinyBugChild has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:02 -!- zkyp has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:03 -!- ColdPie has quit [*.net *.split] 17:20:09 It's a creature with the body of a man attached to the body of a scorpion. (Like a centaur is the body of a man with the body of a horse.) 17:20:44 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TdX_eA94bbs/TVtIyKGPjeI/AAAAAAAABQQ/x1u6Ou6nSiQ/s1600/scorpion-man_MutantFutureRPG.jpg 17:20:48 Like that image. 17:20:58 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 17:22:00 regarding emperor scorpions, the flavour justification is that they are more monster than animal (think 1950's monster movie style). gameplay justification is that the branch needed at least one tough monster that has rPois 17:25:29 err, one more, I meant 17:26:14 Well if we gave them poison vulnerability it'd probably make them too weak in the early game... 17:27:13 if your proposal includes fast movement, that easily counterbalances poison vulnerability (along with any other disadvantage you throw at it) 17:27:28 note that mummies have rF- which is far nastier 17:27:45 True, especially late game fire is a pain. 17:28:16 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9] 17:28:18 -!- kek has quit [Quit: gonna suicide, brb] 17:29:03 Although from a lore perspective it's not too hard to correlate a man with a scorpion stinger being good enough with poison magic/be around poisons enough that they would develop a resistance to it. 17:29:04 there's also the thing where scorpion man has venomous/paralytic melee??? either of those would ``power through,, early game quite nicely 17:29:18 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:18 -!- Chousuke has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:18 -!- ColdPie has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:33 I think there's too much stuff for one race in this propsal 17:29:39 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:30:06 Yeah. The scorpion-man would be pretty powerful early game. Late game all those advantages would not amount to much as more enemies have poison resistance and hit harder. 17:30:10 it has something like 10 mutations, including one that's exclusive to demonspawn 17:31:28 Centaur starts out with 6 mutations... 17:32:06 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:07 current blurry vision sucks like halflings 17:39:19 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:21 gotta agree there. the scroll thing is incredibly annoying 17:39:34 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:39:35 I would prefer something less random. Like, each level of the mutation increases the time it takes to read scrolls 17:40:35 That might work. I'm not against any suggestion to balance out the race overall. 17:42:13 oh, those were just my thoughts about the mutation in general 17:43:28 Ohh, yeah... that is a pretty crappy mutation to get overall. Had a death or two where I died because I couldn't read a scroll. 17:44:44 Maybe we can balance the mutations if we make it kind of like demonspawn, they they don't get all of the mutations all of the time, only a number of them? 17:44:46 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 17:45:32 Although that'd be less like pure scorpion-men and more pseudo-scorpion-men... 17:45:56 evilmike: maybe level = # of successes you need, 50% success per attempt? 17:46:13 or maybe more like 75% 17:46:54 I'd just make it so each level increases scroll reading time by 0.5 aut 17:47:01 which would be fairly nasty I think, but not annoying 17:47:10 sorry I meant 0.5 turns 17:47:17 was about to say 17:47:34 but yeah that trade sounds good 17:47:46 That make more sense... from a logical standpoint you don't just read something all at once, you read it word-for-word. 17:48:01 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!] 17:48:52 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1053-gab423d2: Mention that at least one file has the zlib license. 10(43 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab423d263c1e 17:48:52 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1054-gca0cb51: Crudely clean up some explicit stash code. 10(33 minutes ago, 6 files, 7+ 56-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca0cb5113de3 17:50:34 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:50:46 Also, scorpion men, while accurate, isn't much of a name for a species. "They were also known as aqrabuamelu or girtablilu." 17:51:03 aq doesn't spell anything, not going to happen 17:51:13 Although the alternatives are a little bit, uhh, foreign. 17:51:33 new species are only allowed in crawl if they spell words 17:52:44 Spell.. words? 17:53:06 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:53:13 irrimn: he means lost lore 17:53:23 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:53:55 irrimn: OpEn, HEHe, etc. 17:54:07 Gotcha. XD 17:54:24 rip lost 17:55:06 there's still lock 17:55:16 loam 17:55:27 lore will be there one day... 17:55:39 also, loss would be good 17:55:51 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:58:16 Scorpion Man Abyssal Knight - SmAk? 17:58:37 Or maybe not Scorpion Man... Scorpion Person? XD Haha. 17:58:50 SP could spell a few words. 17:58:56 ther's already a sp 17:58:58 spriggan 17:59:00 spriggan 17:59:09 Oh, yeah... dur. 17:59:34 Maybe just Sc instead? 17:59:34 ScAr 18:00:19 if the primary concern for naming the race is forming dictionary words, I see bleak future for such a race 18:00:19 Although Scorpion Men probably have bad aptitudes for wands since... claw hands... 18:00:19 that is a good one 18:00:20 also, scam 18:00:29 So that'd probably be the worst class combo. XD 18:00:37 kilobyte: that's how octopode and lava orc both started 18:00:44 kilobyte: we could call them the hacker race 18:00:48 and give them dictionary attacks! 18:00:55 Zannick: <3 18:01:13 8 legs on a keyboard... >_> 18:01:17 Yup, they could type fast... 18:01:36 ??sixfirhy[3] 18:01:37 sixfirhy[3/5]: 01:27 < timecircuits> sxFR:?)hyyyyyyyy-\- 18:01:54 irrimn: what about making them just generally arachnoid/insectoid rather than scorpions 18:03:06 That could work. I've never actually made a suggestion to the game before so I'm not really sure how it goes. XD 18:03:15 -!- Oddtwang has quit [Quit: TTFN!] 18:03:36 irrimn: are you a programmer? 18:03:58 I know some programming but I'm not a programmer. 18:04:10 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]] 18:04:20 I'm actually still in college. 18:04:59 irrimn: if you aren't able to program the addition yourself, you are going to have convince someone else that your idea is solid. this can be quite difficult 18:05:06 there are a lot of great ideas out there with no execution 18:05:33 True. I'm pretty sure I can figure it out if need be, heh. 18:05:40 do you know any C++? 18:05:50 A little. 18:06:07 well, luckily species with mutations are one of the easier things to add 18:06:17 i'd recommend looking at a branch that added a species to see how it is done 18:06:18 I know more about a few other programming languages although most of them are webbased. 18:06:39 Java, javascript, php, html 18:06:40 even if you can just do a demo of the species, other people can help get it polished 18:06:57 Although I know enough about programming languages to read code in almost any language. 18:07:23 almost any language is a bold claim 18:07:45 Ok, let me rephrase that. In 'most programming languages that are popular today'. 18:07:49 haha 18:07:54 is brainfuck popular? 18:07:55 go read some APL 18:08:02 i was about to paste the hello world malbolge program and ask you what it did 18:08:16 i prefer mondrian myself 18:11:00 -!- Ashenden has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:18:54 can you read... hangedman vaults 18:19:15 I can, although it sometimes gives me a headache 18:19:21 03Chris Honey 07* 0.12-a0-1055-g05c2f74: Remove cursed weapon training restrictions. 10(16 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 5-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=05c2f7470b06 18:19:21 03evilmike 07* 0.12-a0-1056-geea1d4e: Update CREDITS.txt. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eea1d4e9086d 18:19:37 -!- CampinSam has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:20:03 I'd compare reading that kind of SUBST/SHUFFLE abuse to reading a really complex regex (something I suck at). it's one of those things you can just learn to do after a while 18:22:17 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:25:04 to be fair its not so much abuse as extensive use 18:25:26 yeah 18:30:35 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 18:37:47 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:53 -!- wasd` has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:59:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:00:25 -!- Kurshu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:00:50 -!- Hosg has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:01:32 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 19:05:27 -!- jiero has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:07:05 -!- Kromgart has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:15:59 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 19:18:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 19:21:56 -!- Alzahalabal has quit [Client Quit] 19:32:00 -!- malabolg has quit [Client Quit] 19:32:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:59 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:38:27 !tell bhaak I've heard that without the ability to read japanese Cave Noire works perfectly as a nearly textless (gameboy) roguelike, and there's a properly textless... pseudo-roguelike inspired by it called Return Alive 19:38:27 HangedMan: OK, I'll let bhaak know. 19:45:34 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:48:30 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:48:56 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:42 -!- Neuq has quit [] 19:56:27 <|amethyst> %git :/cursed 19:56:27 03Chris Honey * 0.12-a0-1055-g05c2f74: Remove cursed weapon training restrictions. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 5-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=05c2f7470b06 19:56:31 <|amethyst> hm 19:56:39 <|amethyst> %git :/cursed 19:56:39 03faze * 0.12-a0-1055-g05c2f74: Remove cursed weapon training restrictions. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 5-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=05c2f7470b06 19:56:43 <|amethyst> there we go 19:58:23 cool, thanks 20:01:34 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11:02 <|amethyst> !tell edlothiol CSZO can be the guinea pig :) I posted a message about a webtiles restart in CSZO's banner.html. 20:11:03 |amethyst: OK, I'll let edlothiol know. 20:15:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 20:20:21 -!- UbAh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:36 -!- unferth has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 20:32:20 -!- jiero has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:34:19 -!- Wehk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:43 -!- domiryuu has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:36:55 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:36 -!- Wehk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:37:48 -!- wasd22 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:39:45 -!- HangedMan has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:40:40 -!- ajikeshi__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:48:46 -!- remyroy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:50:49 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:52:04 -!- repent has quit [Client Quit] 20:54:08 -!- Rng has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:56:52 Exiting on map screen will give free teleports between levels. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6375) by Digi 21:03:30 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 21:12:06 03|amethyst 07* 0.12-a0-1057-gdb73e89: Fix stash tracking (rwbarton). 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=db73e890e350 21:14:09 ToastyP (L16 SECK) (D:15) 21:19:40 -!- Flun is now known as Flunbolic 21:30:59 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:00 -!- bh has quit [Changing host] 21:31:00 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:33:11 -!- bh_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:33:12 -!- bh_ has quit [Changing host] 21:33:12 -!- bh_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:33:41 -!- jiero has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.2/20121025212310]] 21:35:16 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:35:18 -!- bh_ is now known as bh 21:36:56 -!- bh_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:36:56 -!- bh_ has quit [Changing host] 21:36:56 -!- bh_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:33 good internet is hard to find. 21:37:40 -!- bh has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:37:44 -!- bh_ is now known as bh 21:39:00 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:39:15 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:42:15 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:44:35 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47:57 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:31 is anyone willing to commit disjunction? 21:48:31 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:48:36 !messages 21:48:36 (1/1) Wensley said (8h 33m 38s ago): was "mass blink doesn't work on sleeping creatures because 'blink away' uses foe, I believe" intended for someone else? 21:49:48 !tell Wensley I rewrote 'blink away' to deal with that 21:49:48 bh: OK, I'll let Wensley know. 22:02:16 -!- lexackson has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:52 -!- Wensley has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:08:39 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:13:46 -!- Satans_mechanic has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:13:47 -!- StanMckhanic is now known as Satans_mechanic 22:18:24 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:23:46 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:11 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:57 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.2/20121024073032]] 22:32:42 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:34:55 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:06 -!- Flunbolic has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:46:20 -!- wasd22_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:46:33 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:50:20 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 22:55:27 -!- Dixie has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:56:03 -!- sfogarty has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:02:17 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:06:07 -!- Rebthor has quit [Quit: night all] 23:06:54 -!- troglet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:07:33 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:18:37 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:53 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:38:17 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:17 -!- bh has quit [Changing host] 23:38:17 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:40 I'm playing over a very bad connection and my keystrokes are registering improperly on the server 23:39:11 I'm tab'ing and occasionally it sends an 'r' 23:40:25 -!- bh has quit [Client Quit] 23:42:37 -!- morgant has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:47:29 -!- repent has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:49:53 -!- FriscoBowie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:50:58 -!- piss has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51:59 -!- bh has quit [Changing host] 23:52:19 -!- Tijol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:57:13 -!- bh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58:05 -!- bh has quit [Changing host]